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Speaker 2: And Don and Tie, welcome back to the Salibarbo Boys

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein, sir, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: How was your weekend good. I think we had a

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Speaker 2: So the eclipse is in a couple hours from now.

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Speaker 2: We are looking at conferences, Dan, We are looking at conferences.

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Speaker 1: And they now plenty of time. They have plenty of

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Speaker 2: I speak for myself on this one. I am pro

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you blought out Ohio State, It's like, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: They're like a shady horse to me. Not quite a

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 2: The thing with Michigan is this, you cannot go three

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Speaker 1: are covered. My bases are covered. I don't see it.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't see Michigan against this schedule, with

437
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Speaker 2: everything that just left going on, the kind of run

438
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: light they've had the last three years with the new coach,

439
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. Prove me wrong.

440
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 1: What's the scene, what's the line in Breaking Bad where

441
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: Skyler is like, they're coming after you, They're doing all this.

442
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: Aren't you scared of this? Aren't you scared of that?

443
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 1: And he says I'm the one who knocks right. And

444
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: the counterpoint is Michigan just comfortably beat the team who

445
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: beat Texas in the playoff, and now they get Texas.

446
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: Now these are all different rosters, these are all you know,

447
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: every season has its own different context. But if Michigan

448
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: plays to what we already know is Sean Moore's very

449
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: specific vision for this team, it's it's carrying over from

450
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: the Harby. I don't think you're gonna see a lot

451
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: different on offense. And there's enough back on defense. You know,

452
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: you look at the secondary, you look at the defensive line.

453
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: There's just enough pieces who played significantly for a championship

454
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: team that I don't know, I think you should be

455
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more scared if you're playing Michigan than

456
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: if you're looking at Michigan's schedule.

457
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're a pushover Dan there is, but

458
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm not expecting an undefeated season.

459
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: I know what, I think they can still go ten

460
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: and two against the Stanley Can's what I'm saying, Like, Uh,

461
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: there is something about what's the fun phrase.

462
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: Like championship DNA.

463
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: Right, that there is something in ann Arbor that should

464
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Speaker 1: scare the bejesus out of every team on their schedule. Right,

465
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Michigan is squarely living rent free in Ohio State's head Right.

466
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: Ohio State's out there spending four hundred million dollars to

467
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: to keep the roster intact and bring in new guys

468
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: on the roster as is their right. As is great

469
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: to see if you're an Ohio State fan that your

470
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: team is doing everything they can. But they're doing it

471
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: because they've been pushed around a lot recently by this

472
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: Michigan program, different players, different offensive linemen, different guys in

473
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: the secondary. That there has been something about inside this

474
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: Michigan program that has them better prepared to win that

475
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: game every year. Where's the Texas game? Texas games at home,

476
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: Texas games at home. It's in ann Arbor. That's pretty nice. Yeah,

477
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: that's pretty nice. Where's the Oregon game? Oregon games at home?

478
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: ORG games at home? Where'shio State game?

479
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State game is in the shoe?

480
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: Have they recently won in the shoe? As luck would

481
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: have it, they have?

482
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

483
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: Okay, So all I'm saying right now, and you know

484
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: you're there, chief hedging officer, so I understand where you're

485
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: coming from. But I think the counterpoint is pretty strong

486
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: for Michigan in this moment, that like they are more

487
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: feared than we should be scared of what's on their schedule.

488
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Speaker 1: That's all.

489
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: Michigan blotted out Ohio State the own version of the eclipse,

490
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Speaker 2: and now now we're almost talking about it in reverse

491
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Speaker 2: a little bit because they have owned Ohio State.

492
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Speaker 1: I mean that that kind of goes with they're saying,

493
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, different elements, different ways.

494
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not as high on Michigan this year.

495
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Speaker 1: I don't see how anybody. I don't know officially where

496
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Speaker 1: I stand.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have not done the full preseason deep dive

498
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Speaker 2: and all that. I'm not as high on Michigan this

499
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: year as it was last year. I don't see how

500
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Speaker 2: anybody could be I think. I think if you are

501
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 2: as high on Michigan this year as you were last year,

502
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: you are you are living in an alternate reality.

503
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: You're a Michigan fan.

504
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: You're a Michigan fan, many of whom have commented on

505
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Speaker 2: our videos and emailed in about how disrespectful I was

506
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: towards Michigan. Keep it coming.

507
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: I don't care.

508
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: I can't get as high about Michigan as I was

509
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: last season, but they're still going to be very good.

510
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: Let's leave it at that. Yeah, where do you want

511
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 2: to go next? Which conference? Uh?

512
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: You want to go to the Mountain West?

513
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh great?

514
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: Laid on me fastball, screwball, curveball. Who's the star in

515
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: the Mountain West? Who is that bright shining orb in

516
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: the middle of the Mountain West in this moment? Or

517
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Speaker 1: does one exist?

518
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Speaker 2: My default answers are always either Boise State or Fresno State.

519
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Speaker 1: What about Oregon State twenty twenty six? That was mean?

520
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that was mean. Yeah, those are always my

521
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: default answers. Is there a better answer for the Mountain

522
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Speaker 2: West than Boise, Boise or Fresnoe.

523
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Speaker 1: Boise Fresno, San Diego State Air Force. I don't think

524
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: there's an obvious star here, but is there a team?

525
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: Is there a team on this obviously Wyomi makes a

526
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: coaching change. U and LV is interesting to me. Yeah,

527
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if Barry Otam is long for Vegas

528
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: washed Jada Mayava lost a Mayava to USC proximity to recruiting.

529
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Vegas has become more and more of a sports town

530
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: with the addition of what the NHL team, an NFL team,

531
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Speaker 1: and at some point a Sacramento team moving from MLV

532
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: MLB's Oakland A's to Sacramento as to the Vegas A's allegedly.

533
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something about UNLV. I don't know

534
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: what they have behind the scenes in terms of NIL

535
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: if like Guy Fieri is going to be a big

536
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: booster as Barry Otum ramps it up. You and V

537
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: is interesting to me as a moon to like what

538
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: they made the conference championship game last year. Weren't great

539
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: in it. No but Boise with a new full time

540
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: head coach. San Diego State new head coach. There's a

541
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: lot that's pretty open, Like Tedford seems to be near

542
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: the end of his tenure at Fresno. I don't think

543
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: you can count them out. I think UNLV is the

544
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: obvious Sun here to blot out the energy of the

545
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Speaker 1: recent powers in the Mountain West. First, as long as

546
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: Barry Odein is there.

547
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: First off, continuing science lesson for you, please, it is

548
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: the moon that blots out the Sun and not the

549
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: s You said that they were the obvious sun.

550
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: That was going to excuse me they were, Well, they

551
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: could ascend to obvious sun, but right now they're the

552
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: obvious moon to blot out the sun. Correct.

553
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: I think I think I tend to favor Fresno by

554
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: a nose if we're talking about sort of the star

555
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 2: of the conference, and if you look at it just

556
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: in terms of who's coming back.

557
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Jay Cane Ray walking through that door, Ti.

558
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: Jay Cane Ray walked through that door. But they've got

559
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: a lot back on offense. Yeah, and they are almost

560
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: they're almost kind of a I don't know, a one

561
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: to eighty as compared to Boise State, which has a

562
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: lot coming back onto you a new coach, new situation, but

563
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: a lot coming back on the defensive side of the ball.

564
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 2: So in that sense, it'll be interesting to watch how

565
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: the Mountain West season plays out, where you've got offense

566
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: on one side, maybe defense on the other. If those

567
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: are the two teams that we end up talking the

568
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: most about, UNLV is interesting to me, I tend to agree,

569
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: and that was sort of where I went first when Yeah,

570
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: when you mentioned you know who is interesting because it

571
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: does feel like that program has seen a bit of

572
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: a jolt lately. I'm interested in Colorado State. Colorado State

573
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: isn't all that good, but they're another team that has

574
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: a fair amount back on both sides of the ball.

575
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: I still like Jane Norvel a lot as their coach.

576
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a slow build to

577
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: kind of get them back to respectability. So it's probably

578
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: a bridge too far at this point to assume that

579
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: they're going to be the team that like finds.

580
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: Some way to blot out the stars.

581
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: But I kind of have one eye on Colorado State

582
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: just to see, if not them rising to that level,

583
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: just to see how that program grows under Jane Orvell.

584
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Okay, let's go to America's conference, and that

585
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: would be the only conference that features the eucalyptus trees

586
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: of Palo Alto and the palm trees of Coral Gables.

587
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: The All American Conference, Yeah yeah, acc.

588
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: ACC America's conference. Who is the star of the ACC

589
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: The bright shining star right now is Florida State. Because

590
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm just going to give benefits of that. I'm not

591
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: going to sweat what they lose. I'm still going to

592
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: doubt that they can accomplish big things with DJU, but

593
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: based solely on recent growth, recent ascension, the way that

594
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: they played at their best last year, the last couple

595
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: of years, what Mike has done in the portal, what

596
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: he's done on the recruiting trail, somewhat to the disappointment

597
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: of Florida State diehards, but also like still a good job.

598
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: I think the energy is with Florida State. I think

599
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: the momentum is with Florida State. And as much as

600
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: you want to call it, what was it a a

601
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: buy something binary solar system with two bright shining suns.

602
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: I think you can say that in terms of brand

603
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: recognition and you know, ten twelve years of results, But

604
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: right now I would say that if you were to

605
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: anonymously ask every head coach in the conference, they're most

606
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: gunning for Florida State and not a Florida State Clemson answer.

607
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: Clemson Clemson, though, is I mean you're doing a little

608
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: bit of disrespect to Clemson by not throwing the Clemson

609
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Tigers out there, am I I think so?

610
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Speaker 1: I mean I understand why you put Florida State.

611
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: I do tend to look at this a little bit

612
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: through a little bit more through the lens of returning production,

613
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: and Florida State gets absolutely crushed totally. Now, talent acquisition

614
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: has not been a problem for Mike Norvel. He's actually

615
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: proven quite good at it. But there's just there's so

616
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: much leaving that I'm not going to say we're going

617
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: to see another like Orange Bowl situation at Florida State.

618
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: I think they'll be fine. I think obviously you know

619
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: they're going to win their fair share of games this year.

620
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: But I have a hard time not giving Clemson the nod,

621
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Speaker 2: knowing what Florida State is going to have to backfill

622
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: and what Clemson has coming back.

623
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Speaker 1: But what is it about Clemson that you feel like

624
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: there is just a tonage of radiation emanating from this

625
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: program in the way that there is from our solar system.

626
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Speaker 2: Son, I think there's enough continuity on offense that I

627
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: feel good about. On the Clemson side, I.

628
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: Mean, what is the continuity that you feel good about?

629
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: You like film, Afa, I do? Hey, club Nick I do? Okay,

630
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't. They don't have receivers. Maybe Matt Luke will

631
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: improve this offensive line, but the defense should be real good.

632
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: I've come full circle on Clemson.

633
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: Okay, what does their schedule look like this year?

634
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: Georgia first week of the year. It's good, the ACC

635
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: non ACC outside of that app State, NC State, Stanford

636
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: at Florida State at Wake, Virginia home against Louisville at

637
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech at pitt the Citadel in South Carolina.

638
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, man, I'm gonna have to see

639
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: something from like this roster outside of clear NFL players

640
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: on defense to get me excited about like ten to

641
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: eleven win possibility.

642
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: We could sit here and argue until we're blue in

643
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 2: the face over which teams are the alpha essentially in

644
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 2: the ACC. Who are the teams? Who are the proverbial

645
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: moons that could blot out the powers because there were

646
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: There's a Louisville conversation to be had, h I think

647
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: there might be more on the sleeper side and NC

648
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: State discussion to be had. We both seem to be

649
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: abnormally high on Kiren drones of Virginia Tech this year. Yeah,

650
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: who want to talk about sleepers? I mean, you've been

651
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: singing the praises of the Stanford Cardinal here ever since

652
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Speaker 2: they joined the ACC.

653
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: You did it again.

654
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe they're you're sleeper. I don't want to

655
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Speaker 2: speak for you, little smu Action. Yeah, a little Preston Stone.

656
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: Why not?

657
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're thinking next rung down teams, that

658
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: could take some of the shine off of those top dogs.

659
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Speaker 1: M h is it Louisville?

660
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: Is that the next obvious one? I don't know.

661
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to see where they go at quarterback

662
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: long term. I don't I'm not there yet with Louisville.

663
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I think that might have been a really nice year one,

664
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Speaker 1: a sort of fortunate year one, given the schedule. I

665
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: might be inclined to ride with Brent Key and Georgia

666
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: Tech Here for this answer, Oh, I guess I'm not

667
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: saying that they are going to be they are going

668
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Speaker 1: to become the son of the ACC. I'm saying just

669
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Speaker 1: in terms of blot out potential that, like, I'm not

670
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Speaker 1: going to sing the praises of like an Atlanta recruiting base.

671
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: It's not the same situation, like it's a difficult school

672
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: to get into. There's too many schools around there that

673
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: recruit Georgia and Atlanta Metro so well. But there is

674
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Speaker 1: something about a team that plays with the fire that

675
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech has played with recently that they're going to

676
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: win some twenty seven to twenty fours that they shouldn't.

677
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: They're going to finish strong. I like year one of

678
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Haines King, little sloppy with the ball, but playmaker in

679
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: ways that I didn't anticipate that In terms of the

680
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: true spirit of a moon blotter, a moon that is

681
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: blotting by the way, I cannot wait to get a

682
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: number of emails that have the subject quick quick science

683
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: note about the moon. Need a little primer for Dan

684
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Rubens quick science correction eighteen. Dan mentioned the tides. So

685
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: there is the spirit of a school occupying a place

686
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: to blot out the lights of others. I think Georgia

687
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: could be like the spoiler maker, that kind of school

688
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: within the ACC moving forward that like, yeah, they only

689
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: won eight games, but man, they are getting a lot.

690
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: Of people's way Georgia, Georgia Tech. Excuse me, yeah, yeah, no.

691
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: I we have commented before on the pain in the

692
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: acidness of Georgia Tech. That's a specific science term that

693
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: I used. They play hard for bran Key, they did

694
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: it ever since he was the interim Sure and Haines King.

695
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: I think is is a super interesting prospect. You know,

696
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: we got to.

697
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: See not an NFL prospect college football this season kind

698
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: of situation.

699
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. They are extremely plucky and as a team

700
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: that could serve as that thorn, maybe more of a

701
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: temporary eclipse. Sure, I could see it longer term. Longer term,

702
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: I think the the arc here still favors Florida State Clemson,

703
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: but in the short term and no Miami.

704
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: In this conversation, I don't.

705
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Speaker 2: Know what to expect from Miami, Dan, I don't know

706
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: what to expect from Miami.

707
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: I expect growth, I do. I expect growth, but to

708
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: what end?

709
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: You know, We've expected growth each of the last two years,

710
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: and I feel like in both instances, maybe there has

711
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: been a little bit of growth, but it has far underwhelmed.

712
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: And so I don't I don't want to get too

713
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 2: high on the Kinges this year. I think longer term.

714
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: Mario is very good at assembly talent, sure, and the question,

715
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: the obvious question is can he translate that into wins?

716
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: And we just you know, we didn't see it. We

717
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: saw loss in the bowl game to Rutgers last year. Whatever,

718
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: who cares about it?

719
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: So, in a universe in which Florida State and Clemson

720
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Speaker 1: are sucked into that black hole, who do you think

721
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: has the strength to stabilize the a sec at the

722
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Speaker 1: top if it's not Miami As what I'm getting from

723
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: your words is this. Does this become an NC State conference?

724
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: Does this become a Brent Privee Virginia Tech Conference?

725
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: Now I'd be incline to Louisville.

726
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: You think Louisville would would have that shine.

727
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: I'd be incline to Louisville in that situation. Yeah, if

728
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: we're not talking Florida State, if we're not talking Clemson,

729
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: A healthy nil backing, Yeah, healthy nil backing. It's it's

730
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Speaker 2: a program that is willing to invest in the football team.

731
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: They've got a good coach who last season alone proved

732
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Speaker 2: that he can assemble the pieces pretty quickly and turn

733
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Speaker 2: into good year. I think I think I would be

734
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 2: inclined to go team Jeff Brahm for this guy right here.

735
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. I don't think I have that

736
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Speaker 1: in me. Put my vote down, one vote for Dan

737
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: and the for Animal at Syracuse occupying that's.

738
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Speaker 2: Not that's let's go down the SEC then, all right,

739
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: SEC the obvious ones.

740
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: Georgia. Yeah, we agree that it was the obvious Sun. Especially.

741
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it was obviously a two moon, a

742
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: two sun system with Nick Saban present in Tuscaloosa. But

743
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: with the absence of Nick Saban, it'd be impossible to say,

744
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: you know this, this college football conference universe revolves around Tuscaloosa. No,

745
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: it's Georgia who's.

746
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: Going to block out that son of that Kirby Smart son,

747
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: that Red Sun who's blocking that out? Uh?

748
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: In terms of what they've proven at their school all

749
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: around right now, I'd lean LSU, the LSU ceiling, the

750
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly winning the West in year one ceiling where

751
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: recruiting is. I would think that's the school that can

752
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: build a roster consistently and build the energy consistently to

753
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Speaker 1: not just blot out but have the chance to usurp Georgia.

754
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: That's the closest to me in this moment without saying

755
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: what Kaylin Debora Alabama fully looks like, without seeing how

756
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Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma adjust, knowing what the current what we

757
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: perceive the ceiling for a school like Ole miss to

758
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: be or Tennessee to be, I think LSU kind of

759
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: stands alone as the obvious answer, what do you think?

760
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: Well, we need to bear in mind that the SEC

761
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: is bigger now right much the way the Big Ten,

762
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Speaker 2: and we included Oregon, Ohio State, even Michigan into the conversation.

763
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: I mean Texas now comes in from the west. Texas

764
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: was a playoff team a year ago for sure, so

765
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Speaker 2: maybe doing a bit of disrespect to the Longhorns not

766
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Speaker 2: considering them as they're a Big twelve playoff teams as

767
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: one of the suns here, but yeah, they were coming

768
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: from a different conference. We don't know how they'll fare

769
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: against an SEC schedule, so I think it's probably premature to.

770
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Speaker 1: To put them up there.

771
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: I mean, Texas to me seems like the obvious one

772
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: given where that program's at. You know, Sark is trying

773
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: to build it in a very saban esque kind of way,

774
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: and clearly they all are. They all are, but Sark's

775
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: got the first hand experience. Yeah, as does Kirby Smart. Right,

776
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: that's one thing that they have in common. So that's

777
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Speaker 2: why I think I go there next. If I'm thinking

778
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: in terms of all right, who's sort of like the

779
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: next team up? You know, if there's there going to

780
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: be anybody that takes off the shine from Georgia, who

781
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: is that team if not Alabama?

782
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: And you would put Texas ahead of LSU in this moment,

783
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: I think I would. Yeah, Oh man, I totally disagree.

784
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: I think I would because they have gotten very, very

785
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: physical on the defensive side of the ball. That's been

786
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: a big deal and that I think above all else.

787
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about the talent they've got an

788
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: offense and quinn Ewers and arch Manning and whoever else,

789
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 2: but truly defensively, that is where they have made some

790
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: serious strides. That's what enabled them to kind of take

791
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: that next step forward. And that's not to say that

792
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: Elise you won't get there. They've certainly got a boatload

793
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: of talent. But ls you didn't play any defense last year.

794
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: If it was a matter of offense, then it would

795
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: have been a different conversation. But you got to play

796
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball if you want to win

797
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: in the SEC. And Texas did that. Texas did that

798
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: last year. Well, different schedule, I get it.

799
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, even with you get lit up a

800
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: little bit by Josh Hoover, I don't know if we

801
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: can fully make that claim. You know, previously on Texas football,

802
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: it was Michael Pennox destroying Okay, this team.

803
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all fair. Did they or did they not

804
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: get better on defense last year?

805
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: They definitely did. That's why my answer is Texas, okay.

806
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: I just think LSU is always going to be closer

807
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: to improving things for whatever reason. I think, what so,

808
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: Texas has Arch Manning as quarterback of the future and

809
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: LSU has the twenty twenty five number one quarterback Bryce

810
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: Underworlrice Underwood committed. So they're both in what we think

811
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: terrific shape moving forward at quarterback. Like there's a ton

812
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: of promise on offense. Both tools should be able to

813
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: recruit a ton of defense. I don't know. I think

814
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: there's just still going to be an adjustment period for

815
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: Texas in moving to a new conference, whereas I think

816
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: LSU is better fitted in the short term better fit better,

817
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, better equipped in the short term to

818
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: be that Moon. Otherwise, Look, you can there have been

819
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: moments of Tennessee. There have been moments, you know, a

820
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: few years ago now of Florida. Like it's a little

821
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: bit difficult to say ole Miss because previously on ole

822
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: Miss Georgia fifty two for Georgia's for ole Miss, Like,

823
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: gotta believe it a little bit more. Ole Miss certainly

824
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: fits that like dark Horse Moon Like, they're definitely improving.

825
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: The roster has definitely gotten better since the end of

826
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: last season, but there's a thirty five point gap right

827
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: now that I just am a little bit concerned about.

828
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: So my my interesting answer is actually Oklahoma more so

829
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: than Texas for like the next tier down after LSU

830
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: why I want defense, And Oklahoma has been recruiting the

831
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: hell out of defense, just stacking dudes in the recruiting

832
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: the last couple recruiting classes.

833
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: Defense got better last year, it did.

834
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Both sides of the ball got better last year.

835
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: After after all of the ted Roof jokes from twenty two.

836
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: Oklahoma has taken steps in the right direction, not as

837
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: dramatically as Sark and Texas if Jack snartled works out,

838
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: if like the line of succession at quarterback. To me,

839
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: the big question you know in the term is probably

840
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: offensive line for Oklahoma and figuring out playmakers on offense.

841
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: Which offensive line not an issue for Texas, but they

842
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: are replacing some playmakers at Texas. But there is that

843
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: combination that tantalizing like Oklahoma could get to a scary

844
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: good place on defense in the next year. I think,

845
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: depending on how these guys work out, obviously, but I

846
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: think the general roster level on defense is getting to

847
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: a really interesting place. And you gotta protect Jackson Arnold.

848
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: You gotta find guys to step into those roles, absolutely,

849
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: and they've recruited, They've they've brought in some good receivers.

850
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 1: But Oklahoma to me, because of the Venables factor, because

851
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: of how I think he's going to stack players on defense,

852
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: that to me is what I have my eye on.

853
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: I don't know about Texas.

854
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: A and M uh interesting, but like we haven't seen

855
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: any of ELC. We we have though not at A

856
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: and M, not as the A and M head coach.

857
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: But you know, I think this is a guy throughout

858
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: his career who when he's running a defense. He's getting

859
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: the most out of that talent. He was much sought after.

860
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: That's why A and M paid him a boatload to

861
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: come and leave Notre Dame and go down to College Station.

862
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: He was good as a defensive coordinator. He was very,

863
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 2: very impactful in a short time at Duke, got the

864
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: most out of that roster, totally was able to build

865
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: a good defense out of that roster and didn't have

866
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: like a third of the talent that he's going to

867
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: have at Texas A and M. Now, we can't necessarily

868
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 2: project forward that all of that stuff, all of that

869
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: pixie dust, is going to come with him now to

870
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: College Station as the head coach. But it stands to reason,

871
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: at least in the short term, there is a fair

872
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: amount back on that rod. There's a lot leaving, but

873
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: there's a lot of returning production that is still in

874
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 2: place in College Station, be it from the roster that

875
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: was there before or some of the guys that have

876
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: decided to transferred A and M. So I don't think

877
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: this is like a complete rebuild type situation.

878
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,919
Speaker 1: No, But like this is a classic A conversation. Oh yeah,

879
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: how does Texas A and M get to that place?

880
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: Are they on their way to that place. I see

881
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: them getting to that place where, for whatever reasons, they

882
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: never do. And so at least for a stretch of time.

883
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: And so Texas A and M is almost in its

884
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: own category of sure. But okay, that's the issue with

885
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. That they occupied that very specific

886
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: space of sure. Potential's there. But no matter who they hire,

887
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: no matter who the quarterback is, no matter what the

888
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: identity is, things go wrong for three and a half

889
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: weeks plus every year.

890
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: Who is the star of the Big Twelve?

891
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: It's a great question. I actually like went back and

892
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 1: forth on this a lot. I think the only true

893
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: answer to this question is Oklahoma State.

894
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: Fourth nationally in returning production, but first or second in

895
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve behind Iowa State. So they're up there,

896
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: top team in terms of returning production, fifteenth on offense,

897
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: fourteenth on defense. I am probably not the best person

898
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: to talk about Oklahoma State.

899
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: No, just remove yourself from your view last year and

900
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: if you evaluate where Oklahoma State more often than not

901
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: is with Mike Gundy, who's by far the most tenured

902
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: Big Twelve coach. Obviously, Kyle Whittingham has been at Utah

903
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: for a long time. He has not coached a Big

904
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: twelve game yet, So within that conference, he has the tenure,

905
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: he has the level of success, and even if you

906
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: work to compare him against somebody like Chris Climbing in

907
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: Kansas State, like Oklahoma State recently has played very favorably

908
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: against Kansas State over the past five six years.

909
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: Why would you not go Utah though?

910
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: Why would you not say Utah?

911
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: Because Utah has been steady eddy sure under Kyle Whittingham.

912
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: Now they get Cam Rising back. We don't know what

913
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: he's going to look like. I don't think we can

914
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: assume it's just going to be the Cam Rising from

915
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: three years ago. At this point, right he had a

916
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: serious set of injuries he was dealing with. But generally

917
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: Utah plays defense and they do enough offensively to beat

918
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: your brains in.

919
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: Look, their program might be in a healthier place right

920
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: now than Oklahoma State, but I think we still have

921
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: to put some respect on Mike Gundy in this program's name,

922
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: Like there was nothing expected of last year they make

923
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: it to the conference championship game. I think there's a

924
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: certain amount of like Gundhy and the Cowboys have proven

925
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: it against this collection of teams well more often than

926
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: not this collection of teams, whereas Utah is in a

927
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: terrific place as a program with Kyle Whittingham. Like they're

928
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: down a quarterback, they're down two quarterbacks last year. They're

929
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: still going to USC and winning. Right, They're still doing

930
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: a lot of great things. I think they beat ASU

931
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: fifty five to three in November, like with not much

932
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: healthy on that roster. And so Utah has a great program.

933
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Utah has a great coach. But in terms of the

934
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: sun this conference revolves around I don't know, you gotta

935
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: play a game in this conference before I fully label

936
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: you that title. Again. I might be higher on Utah

937
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: than any other team in this conference in the short term,

938
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: but we still got to put some respect on respect

939
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: and stillwater.

940
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. The interesting thing about Oklahoma State, if you look

941
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: at the schedule, it's pretty much front loaded. Okay, it's

942
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: front loaded in that they've got Utah and case State

943
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: on back to back weeks at the end of September.

944
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: After that, though, Dan West Virginia at home, than a

945
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 2: bye at BYU at Baylor home against Arizona State on

946
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: the road at TCU home against Texas Tech on the road,

947
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: at Colorado. Of the teams that at least right now

948
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: are doing this early April are projected to be ranked,

949
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: there's only two and they're back to back weeks. It's Utah,

950
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: it's Kansas State again to close out the month of September.

951
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: This is a favorable schedule. It's a favorable schedule and

952
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 2: for extendent that's got a lot back that's pretty good.

953
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: It's a potentially tricky November, right if we have a

954
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: good Jayden Rashad, if we have an improved TCU on

955
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: the road, that's gonna be difficult. Texas Tech will see

956
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: how feisty they are. But they ran the ball really

957
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: well at the end of last year. Colorado on the

958
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: road at altitude, we'll see should or should be protected

959
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: better than he was this year. I think that's a

960
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 1: tricky November. But the other this is to your point,

961
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: there's no Bedlam on the schedule.

962
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: There's no Bedlin. No, there's no Bedlin. And if we

963
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 2: want to talk about true eclipse situations, yeah, I don't

964
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: know if this is a lunar eclipse set up, but

965
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: it very much has been Oklahoma getting in the way

966
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: of Oklahoma State over Mike Gundy's tenure. There have been moments,

967
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: of course, but yeah, by and large, Oklahoma has ruled

968
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: that roost.

969
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: So would would you say Utah is then the if

970
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to put words in your mouth, the obvious

971
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: eclipse candidate as they come in, if we're going to

972
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: agree that at least Oklahoma State in this conference, of

973
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: the teams that have played in this conference, I think,

974
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: is it a Kansas State eclipse? Is it a TCU

975
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: bounce back eclipse? Is an upcoming ASU eclipse? Is it

976
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: watch out for Gus Melson and Florida tallon out east eclipse?

977
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing. When you don't have that super

978
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: obvious sun, then you've got a lot of moons floating around,

979
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: a lot of moons.

980
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm most interested in Kansas and Kansas State.

981
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kansas absolutely include the Jayhawks.

982
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 2: Are Kansas and Kansas State? I say Kansas State because

983
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: I think Chris Clemb's got the track record. You just

984
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 2: sort of know that he's going to put a good

985
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: team out there.

986
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: And but not against Gundy.

987
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: Not against Gundy. Yeah, and Kansas is interesting. You know,

988
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: the defense needs to improve if we're going to seriously

989
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 2: consider them as part of this conversation, like definitely at

990
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: the top rung of the conference at all, but they've

991
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: certainly got enough offense in the short term to make

992
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 2: life hell for some of these other teams that are

993
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 2: in the conference. I was looking at Kansas's schedule earlier,

994
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: and I mean the first month and a half of

995
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: the season. They've got a team on their schedule called

996
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: the linden Wood Lions, which is a real team. Great

997
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: Illinois that Illinois UNLV West Virginia, TCU, Arizona State. That's

998
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: the first month and a half of the season. After

999
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: that it gets a little trickier. Houston on the road

1000
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,760
Speaker 2: at case date for the Sunflower game, Iowa State at UYU,

1001
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: Colorado at Baylor. Extremely workable schedule for Kansas.

1002
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: Good thing about this concept, by the way, is the

1003
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: process of mooning is also like thumbing your nose at

1004
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: the powers that be. I would say right now, just

1005
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: in terms of the ceilings, and I think this conference

1006
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: has five to six moons.

1007
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 2: This this is for my money.

1008
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: You can talk me into a whole bunch of nine

1009
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: and three squads.

1010
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: For my money. I'm gonna make a statement here. Yeah,

1011
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: this is the most interesting conference in America in twenty

1012
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: twenty Saller football. Football. Oh okay, yeah, well I know

1013
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 2: about basketball. I just don't about basket.

1014
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: They felt they're like playing at Rucker Park or whatever.

1015
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care about from a football standpoint, this

1016
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: is the most interesting conference in America, okay. And at

1017
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: this point, Look, we've evolved to the point now where

1018
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: all of the conferences that are still in existence have expanded, right,

1019
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: every single one of them, whether it's the ACC, the

1020
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: Big Ten, the SEC, the Big Twelve, They've all the

1021
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: power conferences have expanded at this point, so to some

1022
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: extent that you know, like we're looking at newcomers and

1023
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: what they bring to the conference. But I think by

1024
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: virtue of some of the subtractions in the Big Twelve,

1025
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 2: with Texas and Oklahoma leaving, there's a huge void now,

1026
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, And to your point, there are

1027
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: a thousand moons, a thousand other teams in there that

1028
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: I think we could talk ourselves into, whether it's k

1029
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 2: State or Kansas or even in Arizona, you know, with

1030
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 2: what they've got returning.

1031
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: I agree. I was disrespectful for us to leave off

1032
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: a team that features probably one of the best three,

1033
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: if not best quarterback to receiver tandems in the country. Yeah.

1034
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: So, of course Jed Fish leaves, but Brent Brennan's a

1035
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: good coach in his own right, and you know, with

1036
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: some of the returning talent on hand in Arizona, it's

1037
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: that's another team that I think is interesting. Arizona State

1038
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: will improve this coming season, might not block out the sun,

1039
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 2: but will improve on some level. Colorado, You're right, should

1040
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 2: product chateor a little.

1041
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: Bit better than they have right last season. Yeah, They're

1042
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: still not going to be great, but yeah, they should

1043
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: be more intriguing. Yeah, there's just.

1044
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: So many points of intrigue in the Big Twelve.

1045
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: You said the most interesting, the most intriguing, the most

1046
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: what is the scriptor here?

1047
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: Most interesting conference in America is the Big Twelve.

1048
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm not there because I still think you need like

1049
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: the clear top as a measuring stick, and in my mind,

1050
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: the top rung is real fluid within the conference? Does

1051
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: that not make it more interesting for you? Though? It

1052
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: might be the most entertaining, I don't know if it's

1053
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: the most interesting.

1054
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 2: I could go with entertaining too.

1055
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what the exact

1056
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: difference is it's more entertaining because week to week you

1057
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: don't exactly know what you're going to get. But I

1058
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: like what we're going into the season in the Big

1059
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: Ten and probably less on the ACC, but the Big

1060
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: Ten in SEC with where you like the tiers can

1061
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 1: be argued a little bit more cleanly than you can

1062
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve. I think it makes for more

1063
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: week to week entertainment, but I don't know if that

1064
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: makes me more interested in the depth of this conference more.

1065
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: There's a there's a pretty good chance that two teams

1066
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 2: from this conference are going to be in the playoff

1067
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: this year, Okay, right, because figure at least three from

1068
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: the SEC and the Big Ten six, probably two from

1069
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: the ACC. That takes up to eight. We know there's

1070
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: gonna be one from the non power level yep, and

1071
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: that leaves you with three and you can kind of

1072
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 2: mix and match with you know where where those teams

1073
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: come from. But I think I think we can assume

1074
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 2: at least two come from the Big twelve, which two

1075
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: That makes it incredibly entertaining, incredibly interesting from week to

1076
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: week because it's so wide open. You know, whoever wins

1077
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: the conference is going to get in and then there's

1078
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: probably a team behind them. So which two teams those

1079
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: are going to be means be seen, Sure, but it's

1080
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: gonna be fun as hell. Who do we want to

1081
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 2: close out with? We've done the power conferences so far.

1082
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: We've obviously done the Mountain West.

1083
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to be American, you want to do

1084
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: the sun Belt? Where you want to go? I want

1085
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: to talk about the Sun Belt a little bit. Let's

1086
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: go Sunbelt.

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00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: I'm super interested in the sun A lot of changes,

1088
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: a lot of changes, a lot of changes the sun Belt.

1089
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: To me, we've called them the fun Belt. Everyone else

1090
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: is called them the fun Belt too. Yeah, the James

1091
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: Madison storyline over the last year was so much fun,

1092
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: and part of me is worried that it's just going

1093
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: to bottom out now because Kurt Signetti's left. Now, this

1094
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: has been a program that's been pretty good for a while.

1095
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they made the decision, it was a conscious

1096
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: choice to go up to the FBS level, and they

1097
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: obviously acquitted themselves pretty well in the short term.

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00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: Wait, but which conference did JMU turn to to fill

1099
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: that void? Would that be the Patriot League? And be

1100
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: the Patriot League? Would that be the gentleman from Holy

1101
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: Cross stepping in Bob Tesney. Sure is that the name? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, continue the James Madison storyline, I think for me

1103
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: is the most interesting full stop.

1104
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Speaker 1: Okay.

1105
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: But outside of them, we'll get app State. App State's

1106
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: been sort of the top dog for a while. Sure,

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00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: you know the one that we think of. Louisiana's been

1108
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: pretty good.

1109
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: Troy loses its coach. Forget Troy, They've got Jared Parker.

1110
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm not even considering them.

1111
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: South Alabama loses their coach, Ken Wamack going down. Georgia

1112
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: Southern well Clay Helton.

1113
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: Act three and five in the sun Belt last year.

1114
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern. Yeah, who's the star? The star is still

1115
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: probably jam you until proven otherwise. I mean Apupstate, given

1116
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: track record, obviously has to be in that conversation. I

1117
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a binary solar system, but

1118
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: I know who my my moon is. GJ. Kenney and

1119
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: the Texas Tate Pobcats. Oh man, he stole it from me.

1120
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: Come on, I was setting it up, man, I was

1121
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: setting it up. That's the up and comer. Yeah, that's

1122
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: the up and comer with Troy starting over with South Alabama.

1123
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: The Jags have done really nice job, and I think

1124
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: occupied that space has been pretty dangerous these past few years.

1125
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: Young gj Uh. The Bobcats not very easy to say, No,

1126
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: it is not. It is kind of a mouthful, a

1127
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: secret mouthful, which was what that was the name of

1128
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: your debut album. It was way back when it was

1129
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: mixtape technically, Yeah.

1130
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Speaker 2: Bobcats baby, I think.

1131
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: So.

1132
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: I was intrigued by what they did in the Portal

1133
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: last year, Yeah, And I was impressed at how quickly

1134
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: he was able to assemble the troops and put something

1135
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: out there that felt cohesive and was the TJ.

1136
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Finlely experience.

1137
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I trust GJ. Kenny at this point. I think, Yeah,

1138
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: as as your ones go, that was pretty impressive. And

1139
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: you know, if you live and die by the Portal,

1140
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: you're always going to get burnt at some point. And

1141
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: I think the Portal is still a pretty big part

1142
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 2: of how he plans on building that system whatever one

1143
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: comes next.

1144
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: But I think, yes, the Portal giveth and taketh away.

1145
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: But I think GJ. Kenny might be looking at this

1146
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: as like giveth him a bridge to TCU.

1147
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like bail will take GJ. Kinney after r exactly exactly.

1148
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm in on Texas State as a team

1149
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: that's going to keep growing as a couple of these powers.

1150
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't you know, starting over is a weird thing

1151
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: to say, because Troy has been good for a few

1152
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: years now. So like even if you're down on Jared

1153
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: Park or whatever, like, there's still dudes there. It's a

1154
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: really interesting conversation. It's really interesting conference.

1155
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 2: Excuse me, so listen With all that said, about an

1156
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 2: hour from now, what starts to happen, Dan, is the

1157
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: moon passes between the Earth and the Sun.

1158
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: Let me write this down. I saw that there's a

1159
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: very specific path. We know people who are like driving

1160
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: to Indiana for like cause that's where like the very

1161
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: specific path near here is through like southern Indiana.

1162
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 2: It it kind of worms its way up into a

1163
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: good chunk of Ohio Eerie, takes out Eerie, and then

1164
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: goes across I think through the Northeastern Corridor up through

1165
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: Vermont as such. So that is what happens. That is

1166
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: the the I guess schematics of how this actually occurs.

1167
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 2: The moon then casts a shadow on the Earth, Dan,

1168
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 2: and that track that you just reference that's where that

1169
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 2: shadow is most prevalent. Right, So I don't know if

1170
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: you've got plans to go out there and see this, don't.

1171
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: I think it's hidden here in like I mean, I

1172
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: guess there too or whatever. In like half hour, what

1173
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: do you say, an hour?

1174
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: It's going to start up in about yeah, a half

1175
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: hour hour? And then can I.

1176
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: Don't have a glasses? Do you have the glasses? I

1177
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: do have the glasses. Where did you pick them up?

1178
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: Like a supermarket or something?

1179
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,959
Speaker 2: My wonderful mother in law dropped them off. She found

1180
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: she found ones that were legit and not the knockoff

1181
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: type that you can buy online that might burn your

1182
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: eyes out. These are like legit ones that are to code.

1183
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: My older son brought home a pair, so I'll probably

1184
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: look through his.

1185
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you got muscles, man, take them muscles. You

1186
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: got more muscles than the kid. Just take the glasses.

1187
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, I'm gonna give him an.

1188
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 2: Opportunity to assert your dominance.

1189
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: How long is it? How long does it pass in front?

1190
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: What is it the time?

1191
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: I think here it peaks around three thirty. I'm not

1192
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 2: sure about how No.

1193
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: But like, is it like a two minute thing? A

1194
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: thirty minute thing. How long will you will be in front?

1195
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: You will see some portion of it for you know,

1196
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: maybe like twenty thirty minutes. Okay, right, so there's time

1197
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: for both of us to get some time in absolutely.

1198
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: Is this something that excites you? Is this something that

1199
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: gets you going as a space guy?

1200
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: It is? Actually yeah, okay, I'm into it.

1201
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: But can you fully appreciate it with your like subpar vision?

1202
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: Well, they say that when the eclipse occurs, reds and

1203
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: greens will look a little bit different to the off

1204
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: right and you can't handle that, to which I say,

1205
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: they already look different for this guy. Yeah, how much

1206
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: different could they look?

1207
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: Did you look at a solar eclipse when you were

1208
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: a child and that did that alter?

1209
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: It? Could have? It could have? I mean, it happens

1210
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 2: every like I mean the last one was twenty seventeen.

1211
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: It happens every so often.

1212
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: But was that solar or lunar? No?

1213
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: It was solar, okay, But we did not have quite

1214
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: the same pathway as we do.

1215
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: And this doesn't happen again for how many years? Twenty

1216
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: is like twenty one years, twenty one years, yeah, so

1217
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: twenty forty five something like that. Yeah, twenty twenty years. Yeah,

1218
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: I'll look through. I'll look through my kid's glasses. Get

1219
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: a good sense of it. I'm excited. I can appreciate it.

1220
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful day here in the Midwest. It is

1221
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: here over there, it is here. Great all right, Well

1222
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: look right in silver badgemail dot com. Let us know

1223
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: you're yes, Let us know which moons are passing in

1224
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: front of which stars in your particular conference. Do you

1225
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: have a favorite moon non earth division.

1226
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm a big iyo guy.

1227
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: I've always been a big iyoga. That Jupiter.

1228
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 2: That's Jupiter. I've very volcanically active love that. Yeah, big

1229
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 2: io guy, always have been. All right, poster on my

1230
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: wall fio.

1231
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,959
Speaker 1: Is that true? No, not at all? Oh, come on, tye,

1232
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: all right, that's all I have.

1233
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: Hit follow wherever it is you listen to this. We

1234
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 2: appreciate your support. Subscribe out on YouTube, follow along on

1235
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: social media. We've been pushing pretty hard there as well.

1236
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: Appreciate your followership. Is that a word? Probably not it

1237
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: is now that's fine. For that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein,

1238
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: for myself, Tie Hill and a brand. Thank you so

1239
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: much again for your support. We will talk to you

1240
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: all on Thursday. In the meantimes, day so Peace