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Speaker 1: I'm going to take off my Giants writer hat here

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Speaker 1: and put on my NFL writer hat here for the

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Speaker 1: season preview. Just I know this is a thirty thousand

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Speaker 1: foot question, Chane, but just to the best of your ability,

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Speaker 1: Like people always talk about how hard it's become to

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Speaker 1: play defense in the NFL today, like with all the

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Speaker 1: rules and you know, the emotion offenses and whatnot. How

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Speaker 1: have you seen like how have you from the first

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Speaker 1: time you got into the NFL till now, Like have

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Speaker 1: you changed what you quantify as good defense the measurements

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Speaker 1: or the idea of yards. Maybe you've been but don't

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Speaker 1: break is more okay than it was, Like, how have

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Speaker 1: you seen the definition of good defense change over the years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the first thing is they

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Speaker 2: got good players too. I think they're going to make

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Speaker 2: some plays, like to assume we're going to get three

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Speaker 2: and out every series or hold them to however many yards.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how attainable that is. They're going to

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Speaker 2: make their plays. I think the biggest thing for me

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Speaker 2: as I look at it, regardless of the rules, regardless

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Speaker 2: of everything else, Like, we got to play to the

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Speaker 2: rules that they that are there. We got to understand them.

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Speaker 2: We got to know the situations where they come up

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Speaker 2: for us and be able to execute and be disciplined

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Speaker 2: enough to follow the rules. But really it's it's about

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Speaker 2: us and how we play defense. Like we know the

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Speaker 2: different variations that we're going to see in terms of

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Speaker 2: how offenses are attacking. Like you mentioned, the jet motion

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Speaker 2: has become a big thing. The tight end movement at

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Speaker 2: times has become a big thing. I think it's the

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Speaker 2: two bad game has kind of transformed where it kind

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Speaker 2: of got cycled out, and I think it's probably making

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Speaker 2: a cycle back in where teams are having a fullback

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Speaker 2: or using tight ends back there to form two back.

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Speaker 2: But really, for me, the focus is our guys and

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Speaker 2: making sure we can execute and defend everything. Offenses are

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Speaker 2: thrown at us. A lot of pre snap communication, whatever

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Speaker 2: that might be, with all the moving moving parts pre snap,

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Speaker 2: I think that's one thing offenses are doing more and

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Speaker 2: more of to put you in conflict before the ball

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Speaker 2: is even snapped. But it's about us playing defense, executing,

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Speaker 2: finding ways to play the next play when they do

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Speaker 2: make a play, being good in the red zone, being

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Speaker 2: good taking the ball away. I think those are critical

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Speaker 2: now just in terms of being able to steal possessions

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Speaker 2: or keep them from scoring seven and making them attempt

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Speaker 1: Then last one quick fallow up, Shane would be, do

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Speaker 1: you think there is a path forward for like defense

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Speaker 1: first teams to be really good in the NFL still

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Speaker 1: like the way Ray Lewis's Ravens or Derek Brooks's box Like,

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Speaker 1: can defense still win big in the NFL? Or is

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Speaker 1: it still offense dominated? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think absolutely. I think it's a team game. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: you got to be able to play complimentary football when

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Speaker 2: you get a stop or when you pin them back,

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Speaker 2: hopefully we can keep them pin back. But I think

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Speaker 2: that's that's part of it. Each game is kind of

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Speaker 2: different how it unfolds. Some Some games are lower scoring,

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Speaker 2: some games are higher scoring, just just based on how

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Speaker 2: the game's going. But I absolutely think a defense can

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Speaker 2: can still lead to winning winning football in the league.

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Speaker 2: But again, it takes everybody.

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Speaker 1: Thanks yep, Dan dug In. Hey, Shane, I think we're

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Speaker 1: probably to take your temperature on this every time we

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Speaker 1: talked to you until the starters are now, it's just

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Speaker 1: what's your view on the CB two bound now with

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Speaker 1: Cornell being the guy healthy and Deonta's banged up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean hopefully we can get him, get him

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Speaker 2: back here and they can get some work this week.

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Speaker 2: I've been pleased with both those guys throughout camp and

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Speaker 2: they've been able to be out there. I feel like

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Speaker 2: both of them have made some plays. Even going back

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Speaker 2: to the spring, they were both getting their hands on football.

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Speaker 2: It was good to see Flat on that third down

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Speaker 2: break up that pass Saturday night, so I was encouraged

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Speaker 2: do feel like they're both the competition is making them

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Speaker 2: both better. I do. I think there's been production there

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Speaker 2: he's gotten out there, the more comfortable he's become. And

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Speaker 2: and Day's done some good things. He's he's challenged guys.

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Speaker 2: I think he showed up at times in the run

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Speaker 2: game for us, set in edges being physical, whether it

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Speaker 2: these last few weeks and we'll go from there.

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Speaker 1: And then dys Mussau, where does he fit? Could you

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Speaker 1: see a rotation that linebacker? Does he have a role

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Speaker 1: in the defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's another guy that has had a

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Speaker 2: really good camp. He's got a nact for finding the football.

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Speaker 2: So again, got a lot of confidence in him, just

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Speaker 2: like I do Bobby and Micah. So not opposed at

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Speaker 2: all to him getting in there and playing some snaps

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Speaker 2: for us defensively, trust him. I think he's productive when

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Speaker 2: he's in there. So really encouraged with that group and

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Speaker 2: where they're at in the training camp they've had.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, yep, we'll take two more.

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Speaker 3: Charlotte Carroll, how's it going today? Good? Are Obviously you

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Speaker 3: don't have decks out there for a lot of this,

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Speaker 3: but what have you seen from your rush defense just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was improved. I do this. I

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Speaker 2: mean they ran the ball thirty three times. I think

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Speaker 2: they were four point three per attempt. Obviously, we like

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Speaker 2: our goal was normally let's try to keep it around

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Speaker 2: four per attempt. Obviously, depending on how many runs they

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Speaker 2: runs they get, the yardage goes up room for improvement.

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Speaker 2: There is just consistency with our technique fundamentals. When we

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Speaker 2: are pressuring some of the movement stuff can get a

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Speaker 2: little loose at times where you create some space that

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Speaker 2: hopefully you don't always want in the run game. But

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Speaker 2: there's flashes I think just the consistent see with our

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Speaker 2: technique fundamentals attacking the line of scrimmage being disruptive when

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Speaker 2: we can all those things, we got to continue to

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Speaker 2: work on and build. And each week's kind of a

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Speaker 2: different animal in terms of the run game. What we

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Speaker 2: see week one against Washington's going to be totally different

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Speaker 2: than what we saw on Saturday night. Right, There's going

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Speaker 2: to be some different schemes that we got to be

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Speaker 2: good on. And again, to me, it always falls back

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Speaker 2: on our ability to play with techniques and fundamentals, regardless

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Speaker 2: of scheme control the line of scrimmage, play square not

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Speaker 2: create creases. The secondary supports a big part of that,

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Speaker 2: knowing where to fit the corners showing up, but all

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Speaker 2: eleven guys being involved and then hopefully we can we

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Speaker 2: can limit them finding creases. And the one thing I've

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Speaker 2: been encouraged about, like the longest run happened late in

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Speaker 2: the game and it was fifteen yards, and again it

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Speaker 2: should have been five if we execute properly, but we

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Speaker 2: had really knock on wood. We've been able to minimize

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Speaker 2: some of the big ones when like the ten to

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Speaker 2: twelve fifteen yard a time is going to happen, but

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Speaker 2: we got to make sure we keep them there and

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Speaker 2: not get up to twenty pluses and some of those.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Last one, Tom rock she When we when we talk

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Speaker 1: about Bobby Oho, we always talk about his leadership, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's pretty much a constant.

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Speaker 3: But what have you seen from just his production and

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Speaker 3: his play this summer that if you hope that he'll

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Speaker 3: he'll be a better player than he was for.

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Speaker 1: You last year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think just the understanding of offenses and obviously our

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Speaker 2: system how it correlates. He's in the right spot a

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Speaker 2: lot of the time, he really is. He understands how

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Speaker 2: teams are attacking us. He understands leverage. The link shows

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Speaker 2: up the ability to corral guys in some space with

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Speaker 2: that length. I think his his pass game defense has improved.

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Speaker 2: I think he's been locked in there in terms of matches,

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Speaker 2: whether we're in zone, zone, match concept, I think that's improved,

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Speaker 2: and that's as a defense. I felt like we improved

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Speaker 2: that last week from the Buffalo game to this pass game.

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Speaker 2: So as something we continue, we're going to have to

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Speaker 2: continue to do making sure we're all coordinated, all on

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Speaker 2: the same page in the back end, and again back

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Speaker 2: to Bobby, just the leadership, but the communication and then

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Speaker 2: being able to play with some range with his length,

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Speaker 2: hopefully get his hands on some footballs for us as

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Speaker 2: we progress here. That's always been a big attribute of

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Speaker 2: his and that's something we're expecting