1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: We welcome you into episode thirty three of the best 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: podcast available off season addition on Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble, 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: and it is a beautiful Thursday, a little warm, but 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: working our way through. Only one week left GRIBs of 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: the Browns Virtual off season program and then it starts 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: for real one that is and what that is is 7 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: still to be determined, but the Browns starting to begin 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: those wrap up phases and guys with their final marching 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: orders uh for the final time before hopefully everybody sees 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: each other in person a little over a month from now. Yeah, 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, and it'll be a shorter period than they're 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: used to between if if, if all things go as 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: planned and these guys get uh back in the building 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: here by the end of July, so it's gonna be 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: a shorter vacation than usual. And I imagine there's got 16 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: to be some mental fatigue going on at this point. 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this has been a lot of zoom meetings 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: for these guys, a lot of a lot of install 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: not a lot of action on the field. But uh, 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the good news is these guys should be pretty healthy 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: going in. I mean, we've seen the unfortunate news out 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia with Brandon Brooks suffering that injury. I mean, 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: that's that's a rarity when you're when you're dealing with 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: with offseason workouts, these guys working on their own. But uh, 25 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: these guys should be healthy, has as healthy as they 26 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: could be gearing up for the late July and it's 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: more now just staying healthy away from the virus and 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: and being coming in as a as as kind of 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: as safe as possible and get these guys in the 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: field as safe as possible. And I think that's gonna 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: be going on behind the scenes, probably up until the 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: day these guys get there, because the stuff is changing 33 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: every day. It is changing, especially with some of the 34 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: spikes and some of the states and I think I 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: read some more twenty one states are we're showing an 36 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: increase as of as of today. So a lot to 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: watch here and to see how things play out in 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: the coming weeks. The one thing, Gribbs and we we 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: did an interview with Alex van Pelt for Cleveland Browns 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: Daily and then you and I were a part of 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: the media call with Chad O'Shea and we'll get to 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: him in just a few minutes and react to him. 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: But um, the seriousness and the importance of which the 44 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: office the virtual off season has played a role in this, Uh, 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the tone has become a little 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: more serious this week about how important this virtual off 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: season really has been, especially from a white board, from 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: a learning standpoint, and just getting guys ready for when 49 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: they come back whenever that might be. Yeah, I think, 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: as as chad Osha explained that the window will be 51 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: short to impress, and I think just gotta come ready 52 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: to go. I mean, there's as tough as these circumstances are, 53 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: you're in kind of a zero excuses set up because 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: it's equal for everyone in the NFL right now. So 55 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: I think that it's equal for everyone on the roster. 56 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Everyone is uh, you know, dealing with these circumstancess a 57 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: new offense. This is new, not just the rookies, this 58 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: is new to the veterans. I mean, this is everything. 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: Everything is equal with this installation. So these guys have 60 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: to be mentally sharp. They can't be checking out now 61 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: because when they get on the field, they're gonna be 62 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: obviously it's gonna be a little different. They'll be eased 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: into things more. But the expectations are that you have 64 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: to pick up where you left off and be prepared 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: for a season that's expected to start on time. Yeah, 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean that's no pressure. But these next six weeks 67 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: normally it's a chance for players to get away, get 68 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: a little relaxing, a little R and R in some 69 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: family time, and maybe the focus turns more towards passing 70 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: these was dreaded conditioning test the first few days. A 71 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: lot more being asked of these guys over the next 72 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: six plus weeks before they report to camp. Yeah, and 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: I think, really though, the main emphasis is going to 74 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: be just stay healthy. I think that's the that this 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: this might not be the year to venture out on 76 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: a on a huge long vacation. I mean, this might 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: be the year to just kind of stay relaxed, stay ready, 78 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: stay focused, and be ready to go and be ready, 79 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: really be ready for something you've never experienced before. I 80 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the key thing. And I think 81 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: the more we learn about this stuff, I think I 82 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: don't know if they're necessarily gonna be saying goodbye to 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: Zoom meetings. I mean, I think these teams are being 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: encouraged to do things as virtually as much as possible, 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: so you can't just expect things to be back to 86 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: normal when you get back there. I think that this 87 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: is just gonna be a brand new season, uh that 88 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: no one has really ever experienced. For Maybe that is 89 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: an advantage for the rookies. They've never experienced the normal NFL. 90 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: This is gonna be less weird for them. Maybe then 91 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: it will be for the Vets. So I would just 92 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: for them that I think that the message is is 93 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: gonna be stay locked in, stay focused, obviously, rest your body, 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: give yourself a little bit of a break, but be 95 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: ready to go because if everything is going to be 96 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: normal when it comes to actually being ready for these games, Yeah, 97 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: I think that's that is definitely the message across the league, 98 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: and let's hope that continues for our players, for our coaches, 99 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: for all the players and coaches, front office people, and 100 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: and people we work with on a daily basis behind 101 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: the scenes, not just in our organization, but the other 102 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: thirty one organizations throughout the National Football League. We talked, 103 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: we touched earlier. Chat O'Shea had a meeting with the 104 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: media on Wednesday, the wide receiver coach coming to us 105 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: from the Miami Dolphins. But before that, a lot of 106 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: success with those new England Patriots and about twenty two 107 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: twenty three minutes with coach O'Shea and one big thing 108 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: that stood out Gribbs, uh, the Patriot way. Not gonna 109 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: say a whole lot about anything, especially his room and 110 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: that offense. As we get closer to training camp, Yeah, 111 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: he did. He did have a lot of good things 112 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: to say individually. I think about the guys, and I thought, 113 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: clearly the biggest news item, if you will, even if 114 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: it's not much of a news item, is I think 115 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: he's he's excited by the progress that Jarvis and O'Dell 116 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: have made. I think the key thing he's hammered on 117 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: is there following the plan as it's been laid out 118 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: to them. I think, if you're gauging what we're what 119 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: we've seen with O'Dell on Instagram, I think he's maybe 120 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: closer to being ready for for football than than probably Jarvis's. 121 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: Jarvis is coming off a pretty significant hip surgery, So 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: I think it's it's one of those things where it's 123 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: just part of a process. I mean, we wouldn't have 124 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: expected them to be on the field during o t 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: a s anyways, But I think they're they're getting in 126 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: a place where they'll be ready to go when they're 127 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be, whether that's at the beginning of training camp, 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: midway through training camp, later in training camp, or all 129 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: the way until up in the season. We don't exactly 130 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: know that just as yet, but sounds like no hiccups 131 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: and sounds like both guys have been pretty bought into 132 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: whatever they're they're doing virtually with with this off season. Yeah. No, uh, 133 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: I thought that he was. He's very matter of fact. 134 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: There's there's while he doesn't say much when it comes 135 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: to big picture and giving away the trade secrets, um 136 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: when he does answer a question, it is very matter 137 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: of fact. I thought he had some good stuff on 138 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Richard Higgins. I thought he had he had some interesting 139 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: things to say about Kareem Hunt, you know, while not 140 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: in his room and not a guy that he necessarily 141 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: coaches every day, someone that's impressed him as a guy 142 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: that could be a weapon as a receiver out of 143 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: the backfield and showed that last year and has shown 144 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: that throughout his career. But had some nice things to 145 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: say about certain guys on this football team. Yeah, and 146 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: it's just it's one of those things where we're gonna 147 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: learn so much about this Kevin Stefanski offense when they 148 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: finally just get on the field that I think that 149 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: we we know that the two receivers are going to 150 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: be featured prominently. We saw x Stefon Diggs and Adam 151 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Feeling did in Minnesota. But really it's can you name 152 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: the third wide receiver for the Vikings. Over the past 153 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: few years there there hasn't been much of one. And 154 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: that's not to say that the Browns aren't going to 155 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: use it, but it's it's a matter of finding guys 156 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: that maybe fit specific niches within this offense and can 157 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: make an impact that way. We know they're gonna use 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the tight ends lat You know, you have two Pro 159 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: Bowl running backs, so finding opportunities is gonna be tough, 160 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to fill out that wide receiver 161 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: room no matter what. Um So there's opportunities around for 162 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Damien Ratley, Richard Higgins, Donovan, People's Jones, Taywan Taylor. There's 163 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: a lot of competition for for a few spots that 164 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: may not get a lot of action, but when you 165 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: are called onto the field, you need to produce and 166 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: I think that's the expectation he's laid out to that. Yeah, 167 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: now it will be good. And that's another it's another 168 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: veteran guy helping a first year coach. And Kevin Stefanski 169 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: on this staff, you know, between Van Peltz and Stump 170 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: and Bill Callahan and O'Shea, there's a lot out of 171 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: veterans on the offensive side of the football to help 172 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: him along with whatever ends up happening, whether he calls plays, 173 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: whether Van pelt calls plays, you know, the thing that 174 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: will be debated about for weeks and days coming forward. Um. 175 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: One thing is for certain, a veteran staff, especially on 176 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, to help that first 177 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: year coach log is never necessarily a bad thing. Yeah, 178 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: And you can make a lot of this or not, 179 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: but O'Shea was the one of the first, if not 180 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: the first guys officially hired for this team. I mean, 181 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: I think this was a no brainer kind of higher 182 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: for for Kevin Stevanski worked with O'Shea and Minnesota and 183 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: clearly saw him develop enough and get an opportunity as 184 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. So it's always good when you have 185 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: multiple guys on a staff who have called plays before 186 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: you get the same thing on the defensive side of 187 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: the ball with someone like Jason Tarmer who's called plays 188 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: defensively before working with Joe Wood. So, Uh, you know, 189 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: I like the set up there and I think that 190 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: clearly as we've made as we've seen in our multiple 191 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: times with Chanache, I mean, it's it's a no nonsense 192 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: position coach for a position that can sometimes have a 193 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: lot of personality to it. And I think that for him, 194 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna let his guys be a personality, 195 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: but you've got to produce, and I think that's the 196 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: that's the big thing, and I think that's a good 197 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: it's a good kind of mesh of personalities now that 198 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: you've got in that room with O'Shea and then the 199 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: personalities like an Odell and Jarvis who are clearly talented 200 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: and very comfortable in their own skin. Yeah, definitely another 201 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: good another good coach and a guy that we look 202 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: forward to talking with on the best podcast available as 203 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: we get to continue to know these new coaches and 204 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: new front office people. Uh. You touched on something a 205 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: little bit earlier. Odell Beckham Jr. Running routes for Cam 206 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: Newton the other day on social media. A good sign 207 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: for Browns fans. And if you're a Browns fan, you've 208 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: got to be excited with not only his progress, but 209 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: you touched on it a few minutes ago, the progress 210 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: from Jarvis Landry. Both guys seem ahead of schedule. Will 211 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: and if you can get them for any part of 212 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: what training camp is eventually going to be, I think 213 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: that's a big, big positive. Yeah. And you've got to wonder, 214 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: is O'Dell friends with everyone like this? Is? This is? 215 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the list, the list that he has of 216 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: guys he can just call up and and work with 217 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: is is great? And I think clearly the big news 218 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: for everyone outside of Cleveland was more about Cam Newton. 219 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,599 Speaker 1: That probably was about O'Dell, who's Cam's probably still the 220 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: biggest name out there free agency wise outside of Clowney 221 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: on defense. But for for Odell, and I think we 222 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: knew that this was a significant surgery, but one I 223 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: think we were expecting by now. It's been about what 224 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: five months I guess since then, or even maybe about 225 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: four months since he's had this surgery, So really good 226 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: to see. I mean, I think the clear the thing 227 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: we just all want to see is a version of 228 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham because I don't I just don't think we 229 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: ever saw that at any point last season during the 230 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: regular season. So anything that gets him on the path 231 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: to that while also maximizing whatever opportunities he has to 232 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: develop that chemistry. Baker Mayfield, I mean, that's the ideal solution, uh, 233 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: to to to get him ready for Week one. Yeah, no, 234 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: I would agree. I mean that's look that it's important 235 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: to get him out there during training camp, especially because 236 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: we haven't really had an offseason program in person, but 237 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: it's a lot more important in September Week one in 238 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: Baltimore to have him on the football field and that's 239 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: ultimately where you want these guys to be and then 240 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: we'll let's see where everything plays out. Yeah, It's it's just, uh, 241 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: you want to see this offense because that looks so 242 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: good on paper. We just want to see it all together, 243 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Like I want, I want to have a game that 244 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: you win where like Kareem Hunt has four carries and 245 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: O'Dell has two catches because you have we're getting the 246 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: ball to all these other guys. I mean, that's that's 247 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: what you want to see. We've we've gone through so 248 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: much Browns football, where the top playmaker you couldn't wasn't 249 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: on the team a week before, and you're getting guys 250 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: out the practice squad. I mean, this is a this 251 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: is a surplus of talent on the offense, and you 252 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: just want it all available at your disposal instead of 253 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: maybe relying on a couple of guys a little bit 254 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: too heavily. Yeah, all right, that's a look at what's 255 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: going on as it pertains to the Cleveland Browns one 256 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: week ago in the virtual offseason program. Uh, speaking of 257 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: the league, ESPN and the NFL Nation Crew with their 258 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: a f C North All Decade team. So the four 259 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Nation writers were the ones who voted, they 260 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: put this whole thing together. Gribbs wanted to get your 261 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on this whole thing. Uh. It starts, first of 262 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: all with the players of the decade. The Ravens Marshal 263 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: Yonda was their Player of the Decade, the Bengals a J. 264 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: Green Um, the Steelers had Antonio Brown for US Joe Thomas, 265 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: with honorable mention going to Alex mac First, your thoughts 266 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: on the players of the decade. The Ravens with a 267 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: guard as their Player of the decade. Yeah, I mean 268 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: it makes sense, though, I mean marsh Leyanda might be 269 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: one of the more underrated players of the of the decade. 270 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean he is fantastic. I mean he was the 271 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: gold standard at that position. And you know, unfortunately when 272 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: you look at the full roster, it's hard to find 273 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: more spots for for some guys. I mean it's tough 274 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: because I think the key guy that I wish you 275 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: could have included, who really came on late in the 276 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: early in the two thousand's and then continued into the 277 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: early part of the two thousand tens is a guy 278 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: like Josh Cribs, Like where where would you fit him in? 279 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Because he had some of his best years in two thousand, 280 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: seven thousand nine, but then he was also still really 281 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: really good at the first part of the decade. So 282 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: I would have liked to see him ahead of Antonio 283 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Brown as that punt return of car I think that 284 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: so you're you're always at a disadvantage for this decade 285 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: team when you were like, career is flit over two 286 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: of them because you're not fully appreciated in one of 287 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: those decades. So I mean Antonio Brown and he's fine, like, 288 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: but do we remember him at all for point returning 289 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: and kicker turning. It's like, no, this guy was an 290 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: elect one. There's one point we remember right exactly. I 291 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: mean co Spencer landing on the Yeah, just he it 292 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: was something he also did. It wasn't what he did, 293 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: and I think that that that's where I would find 294 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: a way to get Josh crimps On on onto this team. 295 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: But you know, otherwise, it was just it was a 296 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: tough decade. I mean for for the Browns. I mean, 297 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: maybe you could have made the argument I would have. 298 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: I would have argued for Alex macover Pounty on this 299 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: team as well, but the honorable mention will be is 300 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: probably good enough for for Alex Mack at that point. Yeah. 301 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: The two guys that made the brown from the Browns 302 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: made the a f C North All Decade Team were 303 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: of course Joe Thomas and then Joe Hayden from two 304 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: thousand ten to two thousand and sixteen. He's one of 305 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: one of two players on this list who played for 306 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: multiple a f C North teams. Yes, yeah, yeah, when 307 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: James Harrison obviously, um, yeah, you're right, I didn't even 308 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: think about that. It's interesting, mean, there's there's clearly some 309 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: weaknesses on this roster. I think, I mean, maybe I'm 310 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: just undervaluing him, but we couldn't come up with a 311 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: better tight end, maybe than than Heath Miller. I just 312 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: I guess I got it's hard hard to do. I mean, 313 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: you had for the Browns, you had those couple of 314 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: great seasons at a Gary barnage, but you really can't 315 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: make no he was yeah, seeing you really can't make 316 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the argument for him there, Yeah, too much inconsistent that 317 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens have never really consistently had that one guy. 318 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: I looked at everything and I wasn't sure. I mean, 319 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: I guess big Ben at quarterback. Could you have made 320 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: a case for Flacco? I mean if he the only one, 321 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: but he didn't have he didn't have the full ten 322 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: and that's I mean, he had a good five year 323 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: run maybe during that time. Yeah, I mean, I think 324 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is the easy one for for this one, unfortunately, 325 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: and I think, man, it's just tough. I mean, again, 326 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: I wish I could have found more places for Browns 327 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: on this list, but it's just a reflective a decade. 328 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: Maybe and maybe I could have thrown Nick Chubb in there. 329 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Running back somewhere over Ray Rice, Yeah, were you surprised? 330 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's obviously heavily tilted towards Pittsburgh and Baltimore. 331 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: Brown's I mean, your record is what it is, and 332 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: that's why you have the the limited number of guys 333 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: that you have on here. But the Bengals had a 334 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: pretty good run from two thousand in the two in 335 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: this past decade, and not a whole lot of guys. 336 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you got you have a J. Green, um, Um, 337 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: you have Andrew Witworth, You've got a couple on defense, 338 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: and Dunlamp and Atkins and Adam Pacman Jones, but not 339 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: too many guys considering that they did have some success, 340 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: not in the playoffs. But I'm wondering if this would 341 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: have been a very unpopular pick. But could you have 342 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: made the case for a perfect on this list over say, 343 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: say C. J. Mosley, what about Lawrence Timmins? Yeah, I 344 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: mean over one of those. I mean that's I mean, 345 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: maybe I'm thinking more of infamous than I'm thinking of 346 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, productive, But that's one that I'm like, if 347 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the A f C. North in the 348 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: two thousand tens, I'm probably remembering Vante's perfect Yeah, I 349 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: mean that was he was just one of the more 350 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: memorable players from the decade. I guess that probably doesn't 351 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: add up because he obviously had a pretty rough ending 352 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: there in Cincinnati and since with the rest of the NFL. 353 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: But how many how many Hall of Famers do you 354 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: see on this list? That's that's a key the key 355 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: question here. I mean, obviously Ben is Yeah. I don't 356 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: think either one of your running backs, Bell or Rice. 357 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: I think Bell maybe could have been but derailed at himself. 358 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Antonio. I mean, I think that controversial, 359 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: but I don't think so. I think yep, yell. But yeah, 360 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: I think Marshal Yond is a lock. Whitworth is a lock? 361 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: Oh really, I would say what Worth? How mean? How 362 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: many Pro Bowls are we talking for? Boy? Now, I 363 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: gotta look it up as we pause in the middle 364 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: of the podcast. Four time Pro Bowl, two time First 365 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: Team All Pro. I wouldn't say it's as much of 366 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: the lock as Joe, but he's got a good shot, correct. Um. 367 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: I don't know about I don't know about the Castro 368 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: and Pouncy. I mean, so you got you're you're probably 369 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: looking at four maybe from that decade. On offense, Yeah, 370 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: on defense, Atkins I think could be a Hall of Famer. 371 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: You can make that argument. I think, yes, Edreid and 372 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: Paula Mallo. Yeah, and paul was already going in. That's 373 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Ed read what do you three years in 374 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: the decade and he still makes the All Decade team 375 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: because it wasn't another safety better? And then I think 376 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker, Yeah, probably making it if he keeps up 377 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: with what he's done. He's he's got to do probably 378 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: needs to do this over a few more years, but 379 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: he's he's probably your whole decade most He's the guy 380 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I want. I have to make a fifty five yard 381 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: field goal to win a game. That's that's your guy 382 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: that I think that was probably one of the more 383 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: crazy moments when he missed. I was at last year 384 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: or the year before when we went seven eight and one, 385 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: where he missed a couple of kicks and you were 386 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: just like Denzel Ward blocked one correct, and I think 387 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: did he missed one week four this past year? I 388 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: think he did in that loss for them. I believe 389 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: he did, and it was just one of those shocking moments. That. 390 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we went to break and I remember Donovan 391 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: turned around going he actually missed, like there's no weather, 392 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: there's nothing. That's why I think he is he is 393 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: so far above and down because he's probably one of 394 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: the only kickers right now in the game where you 395 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: are surprised when they missed. All Right, Coach of the decade, 396 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: would you take Hardball or Tomlin? I mean, that's a 397 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: tough one. I think I'm gonna go with Harbaugh. I 398 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: think they've both been fantage estate. I just think that 399 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: Harbaugh clearly has a system with what they do where 400 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: they've been able to win consistently while not having the 401 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: best quarterback play up until the last couple of years 402 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: with Lamar J. Jackson, and also just with a rotating 403 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: cast of guys. I mean, you you've gotten On defense, 404 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: they just they just churned through these players, they let 405 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: them go in free agency, and they continue to just 406 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: even if their defense isn't the top in the league, 407 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: every year, it's always one of the best, Always a 408 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: team you're you're circling on your calendar knowing it's gonna 409 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: be a tough defense. Their special teams has been fantastic. 410 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: The entire decade. I just think the consistency with which 411 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: they've done it with maybe not the same talent level 412 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: that Pittsburgh has had over the decade gives me the 413 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: edge for for Harbor. Yeah, no, I agree, And and 414 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I almost feel like if the Ravens haven't made the 415 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: playoffs they were, they're still like Week seventeen. Yeah, they're 416 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: always hanging around. Yeah, and Pittsburgh while they they've had 417 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: a couple of those years they have, they've had a 418 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: couple of years where they haven't been great. They needed 419 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: a late season swoon to make a rut. Yeah, I mean, 420 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: and I just inherently this is these coach awards are 421 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: always weird because you always it's like, I think somehow 422 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: Nick Saban only has like one Coach of the Year 423 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: award in the SEC. So it's always given to the 424 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: coach who does the most with what's expected, with with 425 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: what's least expected. And I think that that's where that's 426 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: where Harbaugh probably gets the edge, because I mean, Tomlins 427 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: had Roethlisberger that entire decade just being one of the 428 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: better quarterbacks in the league, and the Ravens have had 429 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: to get creative I mean with I mean Flacco was solid, 430 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: but he wasn't as good as Roethlisberger. And now they've 431 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: figured out just a brand new way of playing football 432 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: with Calamar Jackson. Yeah. I never really not not a 433 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: much talent at wide receiver the entire you know, I mean, 434 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: just they've they've always just been tough though, and and 435 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: that's that's the hallmark of the coach. Yeah. No, they 436 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: He's managed to keep that boat floating and floating quite nicely. Crazy. 437 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: The thing is, both of these guys were talking about 438 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: both had hot seat chatter on them at some point 439 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: in the decade, and they're both still here. Yeah. Yeah, 440 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: And honestly, you can make a case for Marvin. I 441 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: mean he had he had to bring good decade too. Yeah. Now, 442 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: you're right, You're right. That's that's what the Browns are 443 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: up against. Last decade. Not only were the Browns going 444 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: through their own issues, but they were dealing with an 445 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: incredibly consistent division earin in Europe. Yeah. Oh, you're right. 446 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean that's and it's not going to get any 447 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: easier anytime soon. A loaded division headed by a great 448 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: group of quarterbacks. Four quarterbacks, including three that have won 449 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: Heisman trophies. So Uh, we'll see how things play out 450 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,239 Speaker 1: here in this next decade. All right. One thought for 451 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: you on Vegas getting the Pro Bowl in one obviously, 452 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: who knows that the Pro Bowl is going to be 453 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: played if it will be played in front of fans, 454 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: but the Pro Bowl going to Vegas in Ribbs. One 455 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: thought from you on that, Uh, doesn't change a thing 456 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: for me in terms of my interest level. I would say, 457 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: because it's the venue has never really mattered for me. 458 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: I did, like Golden Tates, tweet about it. So if 459 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: you if you saw that worries I have not, they 460 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: better play the game the day all the players land 461 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: off the plane or it's going to be a problem. 462 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair I would say the players 463 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be more excited about this thing than well, 464 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: there's there's divisions of players. It's the players without families 465 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: that are going to be more excited about this the 466 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: players with families. It's tougher. One. Yeah, yeah, you're not. 467 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: You're not packing up your three or four kids and saying, hey, 468 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: let's go to Vegas. There's options, there's options in Vegas 469 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: that it's certain you come around on the on the families. 470 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: I've been out there and seeing plenty of families doing 471 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: stuff out there. Ah, there's a roller coaster in New York, 472 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: New York. I mean they've they've they've tried, and there's 473 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: but it's not Disney World. No, No, it's Disney World 474 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: for adults. Yeah, that's that's what that is, all right. 475 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: One other topic, one thought at Tom Brady's photo shoot 476 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: that came out on Monday or was it might have 477 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: been Tuesday. First off, I just want to know the 478 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: logistics of how it happened. I'm just curious. I mean, 479 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: I would love to see some of our guys in 480 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: these uniforms pretty soon for our for our team, So 481 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: hopefully we can see that pretty soon. But I just 482 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: more enjoyed the shot and freud of Patriots fans. I 483 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: think that was just it's it's now, all of a sudden, 484 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: it's real. It is that I think that they've they've 485 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: been in a little bit of denial that this is happening. 486 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: There's been zero talk somehow about the Patriots quarterback situation, 487 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: like going into the season. It's like they it's like 488 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: they're just suppressing it at this point that they nothing 489 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: to see here, Yeah, nothing to see so I think 490 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: that that is maybe what I enjoyed is that it 491 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: maybe just made things feel a little bit more really. Yeah, 492 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: And it's always fun when something like that comes out 493 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: because then you flip over to Patriots Radio in Boston 494 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: and the sky is falling again, which I like, I'm 495 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: enjoying it. It's like when you, you know, if you 496 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 1: get dumped by your girlfriend and then you kind of 497 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: just wallow for a little bit for a few months, 498 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: and then you see the Facebook photo up there with 499 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: her new boyfriend. I mean, that's the That's that's where 500 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: it hits hard. Get I get you, I get it, 501 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: I get it. It's uh yeah, there there are some 502 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: weird poses, there are some weird looks. I'm like, do 503 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: we do you need that? Why not wait till the action, 504 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: why not wait till practice? Whatever that I mean, I 505 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: will say this, as much as grief as I've given 506 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: the Bucks hype and everything like that, I mean, I 507 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: would say he is clearly motivated and engaged, and I 508 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: think this is going to be like a season full 509 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: of spike for for him. And I think that could 510 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: work well or or it could not work. But I 511 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: think that certainly know the intangible of motivation is at 512 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: an all time I think yeah, can he get the 513 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: ball to his very very fast wide receivers. That is 514 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: the biggest question now that he'll actually have wide receivers. 515 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: All right. That's gonna wrap up episode thirty three of 516 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: the best podcast available. Make sure you log onto Cleveland 517 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: Browns dot com or wherever you get your podcasts, like 518 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: and subscribe today to the best podcast available. You can 519 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: also watch us on YouTube YouTube dot com Slash Browns. 520 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: Thank you to Anthony Baco for all of his hard work. 521 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: We are back with you next week. Final week for 522 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: Jewel off season programming. Andrew Gribble appreciate his time. Have 523 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: a good weekend, enjoy You're out of the panic room today. 524 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: Always a positive. I'm Jason Gibbs. Thanks for watching, Thanks 525 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: for listening to the best podcast available.