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Speaker 1: lined up. Yanni's here, Yanni Chimani Latvian lover.

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Speaker 2: What up? Randall Williams, You don't have any cut, doctor Randall?

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Speaker 1: Brody's here, man that defies nicknames. There's no way to

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Speaker 2: the Rody Brody. Yeah, Grody Brody. That's good.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's the first thing that came to me. Give

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Speaker 2: I feel like nickname? What would you call it? Krinnm? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I have had a nickname. Maybe some people would be

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Speaker 5: Can we go with like Chewyn?

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Speaker 5: Because Chew, I thought it was going to be like

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, when you go into a gas station, it's

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Speaker 2: When you go into a designated coffee.

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Speaker 2: It just is, Yanni, don't definitely advocate me.

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Speaker 6: I'm just asking, like, if if they have a little

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Speaker 2: It's just a soft place for soft people, I know.

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Speaker 7: You don't even know should we just start this is

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Speaker 2: It is? No, you're doing a good job. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're doing. I'm sorry, you're doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting soft vibes. At the coffee shop. I'm with

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Speaker 2: Okay. Then she hands the kids their hot chocolate and says,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll point out you said it was a soft place,

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Speaker 2: I told you, I'm there. I'm there. I'm there.

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Speaker 1: It's just don't act like you don't get what I'm saying. Man,

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Speaker 5: No, there's there's two gradations I think of coffee shops.

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Speaker 5: There's places that have drip coffee ready to go, and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a place that deals the traffic and indulgences.

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Speaker 5: It's like, well, there's performance.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm making sure you more for that performance.

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Speaker 2: Here's my other story, and this isn't even this is

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Speaker 7: I liked your first one.

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Speaker 2: Here's another one.

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Speaker 2: Check this one out.

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Speaker 1: I was happened to be skinning an extremely rotund raccoon.

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I'm gonna make some coon grease

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Speaker 1: and send it to Clay, just because I don't know why,

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Speaker 1: and ask I got three and this is not being

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't twenty pounds but just fat.

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Speaker 1: It smells I haven't tasted yet. It smells totally normal.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd know the difference. I don't think

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Speaker 2: About anything like that. It's just a little shout out

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Speaker 6: We got to fry a burger in that stuff or something.

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Speaker 1: See how I can't wait to do something with it.

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Speaker 1: of look out at it. And holy smokes, you never

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Speaker 1: see magpies get worked up. Here's my last story. You

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Speaker 1: got three. These are all hot off the press. Show

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Speaker 1: that picture Phil.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Now, well, people are looking at here.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday we were goose hunting and got we're hunting Canada geese,

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Speaker 1: but got two snows.

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Speaker 2: Two snows?

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Speaker 1: How is that bird not only alive? Not only alive,

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Speaker 1: but fat as fat as his buddy. There's a picture

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Speaker 1: It's all healed over, whatever happened to it is missing

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Speaker 1: over half of its upper bill.

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Speaker 8: Looks like a severe under.

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Speaker 6: Either scooping with its lower jar or turning its head.

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Speaker 2: I don't know something you know Max that Max.

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Speaker 1: I sent that picture to Max and he mentioned if

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Speaker 1: I sent it, see if you ever see anything like it,

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Speaker 1: And he mentioned it looks like when a cocaine gets

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Speaker 1: into its spawning phase.

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Speaker 5: A kipe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, Isn't that something?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think that just looks like a person's nose.

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Speaker 2: Flying around being totally normal.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking at it thinking it's missing a chunk of

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Speaker 7: That's what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: You know, over half of its upper beak is just

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, that's.

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Speaker 5: What But it gives that, it gives that vibe.

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Speaker 6: But you see fish like that that are mission missing

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Speaker 5: Could you not know?

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Speaker 2: It's like it's illegitimate in my mind.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like the Rams that used to be

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Speaker 1: We got rams and seahawks, and like it doesn't denote

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Speaker 7: But wild ram also has giant tastes for this.

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Speaker 5: Sure, I just think with the right game plan. You know,

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Speaker 2: If I go seahawks on this, I'm going because.

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Speaker 1: Specificity because by calling yourself the rams, I picture barn rams,

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Speaker 8: Seahawks winning over the Rams.

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Speaker 8: Let me see that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, both good.

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Speaker 5: Now, if we're a real national sports podcast would be

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Speaker 5: betting the lines, we wouldn't just be calling winners and losers.

446
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Speaker 5: So I really don't no, Well, like you know, it's

447
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Speaker 5: like by how many Rams? By three and a half,

448
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Speaker 5: you know, I don't know about that. So so we

449
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Speaker 5: but we're just trying to get incrementally higher ranked in

450
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Speaker 5: the national sports podcast by.

451
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Speaker 1: And we're not going to do that by not being

452
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Speaker 1: We're not going to do that by not being like

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Speaker 1: more nuanced than specificah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's just a half assed attempt to increase

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Speaker 5: our relevance as a sports podcast.

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Speaker 2: Falcons v. Cardinals. That's a tough one to talking about

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Speaker 2: Northern Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: Which is weird to Arizona, but they got moved to Yeah,

459
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Speaker 6: and the kind of.

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Speaker 8: Falcons Cardinals is tough. Well, general falcons.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know what kind of Falcons are talking about.

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Speaker 7: And it's like, don't you think nine out of ten

463
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Speaker 7: falcons are going to take out nine out of ten

464
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Speaker 7: cardinals every time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's more to it than that.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, Like if it's geer.

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Speaker 1: Falcons or something, and I'd be like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it just seems a little like not specific.

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Speaker 5: But if you had to bet the money that you

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Speaker 5: need to pay your rent next month.

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Speaker 1: If you said, I got a falcon, I'm not telling

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Speaker 1: you what yeah kind, he said, And I got a cardinal,

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you what kind. Yeah, I'd be like,

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Speaker 1: I think that the falcon, the undisclosed falcon will conquer

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Speaker 1: the undisclosed cardinal.

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Speaker 7: Ok.

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Speaker 2: Just just generally.

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Speaker 8: If there have folks December falcons.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but that logic falls apart if we get to

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Speaker 1: Bengals v. Dolphins of Bengal, Well, are they in the

481
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Speaker 1: water or not. They're playing football on the grass. So

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Speaker 1: if you throw a dolphin out on the grass, and

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Speaker 1: you throw a Bengal tiger out on the grass, but

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Speaker 1: I dolphins get too much attention.

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Speaker 6: But Bengal tigers very comfortable.

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Speaker 5: It's Bengals ad dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Just so we're clear.

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Speaker 7: Oh so we're on the water.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I did look it up. Bengals can swim three

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Speaker 8: to four miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: Well, dolphins are good for about sixty.

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Speaker 8: At if they're at like their burst through sprint speed.

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Speaker 1: I look at this one more like I always looking

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Speaker 1: at it, more like dolphins get too much attention.

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Speaker 2: Everybody thinks they're right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like they're kind of like they got they

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Speaker 1: got a little overplay. It was like, yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: feel about dolphins are the wildlife version of that.

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Speaker 2: They get too much attention.

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Speaker 6: Imagine how cool it would be if you were watching

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Speaker 6: a nature documentary and you saw a Bengal tiger eating

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Speaker 6: a dolphin. Mm hmm, like you somehow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but then you don't want the Bengal to eat

505
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Speaker 5: the dolphin because then the Bengals have a worse draft

506
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Speaker 5: pick next year. Because this season is already just completely

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Speaker 5: You've already see Rydals.

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Speaker 1: You should see you should have a sports podcast because

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Speaker 1: you know this stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well not really, but doing our best here National

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Speaker 5: Sports pot Cast Folks number five.

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Speaker 8: Wait, so is that Bengals winning over Dolphins?

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Speaker 1: Steve? I can't rate it like how you want me to.

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Speaker 1: There's an annoyance factor that I have with dolphins. I

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Speaker 1: love them, okay, but just they just absorb too much attention.

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Speaker 8: So you'd like them to lose.

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Speaker 2: Is that me? No.

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Speaker 1: When I was working on my Buffalo book, a guy

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Speaker 1: said to me, because I was writing about all these

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Speaker 1: different the reason I'm revisiting this in my mind is

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Speaker 1: because I'm writing a new forward. It's been seventeen years

522
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Speaker 1: since I wrote that book, and I'm writing a new forward,

523
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Speaker 1: and in it, I'm sort of doing around the country

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Speaker 1: snapshot of the politics surrounding the animal and things that

525
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Speaker 1: have happened since the book came out. Anyways, it's causing

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Speaker 1: me to reflect on a thing that happened when I

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Speaker 1: was working on the book, where a guy said, with

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Speaker 1: all this stuff going on the animal, right like, there's

529
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Speaker 1: issues in Alaska, there's issues in Arizona, there's issues in Utah.

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Speaker 1: All this is happening. And he said to me, the

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Speaker 1: thing is Yellowstone. It's a black hole. It sucks in

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Speaker 1: all the attention.

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Speaker 2: So all this.

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Speaker 1: Everything, all these things you're talking about, will always be

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Speaker 1: in the American mind unknown.

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Speaker 2: Because the park sucks everything into it.

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Speaker 1: And when people think of the politics of the animal,

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Speaker 1: they only can think of what's going on in the park.

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Speaker 2: Everything else is lost to them.

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Speaker 1: And I think dolphins are something like a black hole,

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Speaker 1: an animal black hole.

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Speaker 5: I mean they had flipper.

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Speaker 1: They absorbed too much attention in wildlife I did see.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see the other guys, the tigers get them.

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Speaker 5: I did get to see when we were in Europe.

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Speaker 5: We went to the zoo in Vienna and I saw

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Speaker 5: tiger eating the leg of something.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the coolest things I've ever seen. But

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Speaker 2: they probably threw it to it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but just watching something chew and rip, that's all

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Speaker 5: I got.

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Speaker 7: That reminds me of a story I heard when I

553
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Speaker 7: was driving home from Wisconsin. I was catching up moving,

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Speaker 7: catching up with old friends Otter. Oh yeah, old fishing

555
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Speaker 7: buddy of ours down in the veil. That kid, call

556
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Speaker 7: him kid. He's not a kid anymore, but he's, you know,

557
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Speaker 7: much younger than us. So I'd like Colin Randall a kid.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's that age he's got. He's had more

559
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Speaker 7: for not being a hound hunter. He's had more mountainlining

560
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Speaker 7: encounters than anybody I know for just a dude that

561
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Speaker 7: kind of he's gotten more serious about hunting. But when

562
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Speaker 7: we knew him, he was a very casual hunter. Now

563
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Speaker 7: he's gotten more into it.

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Speaker 2: Just kind of runs into him.

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Speaker 7: Like, tells me a story about watching a kitten thirty

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Speaker 7: yards away, kitten mountain lion at in a big grove

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Speaker 7: of aspens, as you are bound to see in Colorado,

568
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Speaker 7: and the leaves are all gently falling out of the

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Speaker 7: trees and the kittens just sitting there on his back legs,

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Speaker 7: jumping up and swatting. He got to watch it for

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Speaker 7: like twenty minutes.

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Speaker 5: Kid.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, this year he's hiking around and he sees

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Speaker 7: the head of a cow elk like kind of behind

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Speaker 7: the log. Goes walking over to the cow elk, and

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Speaker 7: he can tell that it's been kind of covered up,

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Speaker 7: you know, but it's not it's not registering yet. But

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Speaker 7: the first thing in his mind is like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna open her mouth and check to see if the

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Speaker 7: ivories are in there and pop the ivories out of there.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 7: He gets right up to her and literally is like

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Speaker 7: like gonna almost touch her upper lip or whatever to

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Speaker 7: look for the ivory. And he looks over and eating

585
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Speaker 7: on the hind quarter. He says, it's the biggest mountain

586
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Speaker 7: lion he's ever seen in just full stile and he

587
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Speaker 7: and all of a sudden the line was like, oh shit,

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Speaker 7: what are you doing here?

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Speaker 8: You know?

590
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Speaker 7: And boom took off. No, I trust him. Yeah, And

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you, like I forget him. And wasn't it

592
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Speaker 7: justin Carr and him We're walking down a trail and

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Speaker 7: at night and they had one coming at him. They

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Speaker 7: ended up shooting at it and then like.

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Speaker 6: He's just maybe just shooting a scared Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Something like that. But anyways, Mountain Lion magnet and yeah,

597
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Speaker 7: he's like that was pretty close. I said, did you

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Speaker 7: get the ivories out? He's like no, I laughed.

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Speaker 2: Here's a guy wrote in this is a good one.

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Speaker 1: In your recent episode of the podcast with Mark Lee Gardner,

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Speaker 1: when talking about Billy the Kid's affinity for the song

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Speaker 1: we call Turkey and the Straw, he said Billy called

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Speaker 1: it a guy yina because the Spanish language didn't really

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Speaker 1: have a.

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Speaker 2: Word for turkey. Hmm. I find that hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: Then he goes on to say, you asked him what

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Speaker 1: about wahallote, which is what they call turkeys in snore

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Speaker 1: in Mexico, and he didn't really have a response for that.

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Speaker 1: This guy wrote in Wahallote is a regional term. It's

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Speaker 1: borrowed from It's a It's a sort of borrow term

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Speaker 1: in some regional Latin American Spanish dialects, made from two

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Speaker 1: Aztec words.

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Speaker 2: Hui big and wilote monster big monster.

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Speaker 1: The literal meaning is pretty cool because it personifies the

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Speaker 1: bird's imposing appearance, but also symbolizes the importance of the

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Speaker 1: bird in the culture, in the in the culture of

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Speaker 1: those people.

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Speaker 2: Wahlote m monster bird. No, what is it? Big monster,

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Speaker 2: big monster, big monster. I'm sticking with that from now on.

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Speaker 7: Hey, I gave me a bunch of different nouns in Spanish.

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Speaker 7: El pavo, el guajalote is number two, El chompipe, al fracaso,

622
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Speaker 7: el pato, mariado, and el patoso. Okay, so yeah, must

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Speaker 7: be very regional.

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Speaker 2: Guyina, Turkey and the straw.

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Speaker 1: Over the course of the history of this podcast, there's

626
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Speaker 1: been something we've talked about a ton and this is

627
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Speaker 1: the last time it'll ever come up. And that is

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Speaker 1: whether in Tombstone, the movie, when Val Kilmer says to someone.

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Speaker 2: I'll be your huckleberry, the hell's he talking about? For

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Speaker 2: a while?

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Speaker 1: I got duped by the Internet, and I thought I

632
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Speaker 1: was reading one day all about how they screwed up,

633
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Speaker 1: and he was meant to say, I'll be your huckle bearer,

634
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: meaning I'll be your pall bearer. Why that as the

635
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Speaker 1: Internet tricked me into believe in the polls, like the

636
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Speaker 1: polls on a casket were made of hucklewood. And someone

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Speaker 1: pointed out to me, I don't know what hucklewood even is,

638
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Speaker 1: but I got duped by it. I'm like a gullible guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm like my wife at the vet.

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Speaker 4: I got duped And no, my wife gets duped by

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Speaker 4: like like she says yes to all the vaccine any like.

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00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Any like, Oh this dog needs this has this problem,

643
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Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, we'll better take care of that.

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00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 7: This town is right with that. You gotta be careful, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: She's she they really I need to Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, I got duped by the Internet on this.

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Speaker 1: I brought it up to Gardener Mark Gardner. He says

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Speaker 1: he he said, that's an urban legend and I don't

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Speaker 1: know what is huckle wood, to which I said, I

650
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Speaker 1: never thought about that. I don't know what that means.

651
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: So this guy, he's there's a guy that wrote in

652
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Speaker 1: he's like a Josh, what's the name of his wild

653
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Speaker 1: West podcast?

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Speaker 2: I got to check that up.

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Speaker 1: He's got a wild West podcast.

656
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Speaker 2: He says, Huckleberry and Gardner got into this.

657
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Speaker 1: You would legitimately run around at that time, you could

658
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Speaker 1: say Huckleberry.

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Speaker 2: No one knows where it came from.

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00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: It appears in magazine articles, poems, even advertisements in the

661
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Speaker 1: mid to late eighteen hundreds. It essentially means I'm the

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Speaker 1: right man for the job. The screenwriter took it directly

663
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Speaker 1: from a book about Tombstone.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but there's.

665
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: No reason to believe Doc Holiday ever used it. But

666
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: he's saying that Doc Holliday would have certainly known the phrase.

667
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: I'll be your Huckleberry, meaning I'm the man for the job.

668
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 8: The podcast is wild the wild West Extravaganza. I've never

669
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 8: listened to it.

670
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I'm not I just read. I'm just yeah,

671
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It could be a whole show about

672
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: about I don't know what sounds like.

673
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: It's about wild.

674
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 5: West stuff and extravaganzas.

675
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: And extravagandas he says, you can't locate any mention of

676
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: huckle Bear prior to the movie tombstone.

677
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 7: Hmm.

678
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: He goes on to he kind of tracked down who

679
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: started the whole thing. He tracks it back to a

680
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight post on Twitter where a guy

681
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: used the phrase I'll be your huckle bear. He finds him,

682
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: shoots him at DM, asks him, where did you hear

683
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: I'll be your huckleberry? He said he couldn't remember, but

684
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: probably from his brother Dan.

685
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 6: And there you have it.

686
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: A few people have.

687
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: Reached out saying that they heard it directly from Bill

688
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Knight Kite Kite the former executive director of the Frontier

689
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: Museum and Doc holl the collection at Glenwood Springs.

690
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: So he calls mister.

691
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: Kite saying, hey, why are you running around saying I'll

692
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: be your huckle bearer? He says, you heard it online?

693
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: They have, so I think that we can. I don't

694
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: know I trust this guy. I feel like when Doc Holiday,

695
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: when you're sitting.

696
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: There and you're on a date.

697
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: You're on a date, you know, like you're just kind

698
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: of getting date in someone and you're trying to impress him.

699
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: I've done it some long time, but like you're throwing tombstone,

700
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, And it gets to that part and you're like, hey, baby,

701
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: you know that's not actually what it was.

702
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: It was.

703
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: I'll be your hucklebear, you're wrong if you're trying to

704
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: impress her.

705
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, unless she does her sleuthing though, mm hm, you

706
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 5: might just depress her.

707
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: Oh, like she might not go digging in.

708
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's doubtful that she would.

709
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: Actually she did, then you know, you got to keep.

710
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 7: I think it would be just as impressive to say, hey,

711
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 7: do you know what that means and then explain that

712
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 7: it means, you know, I'm the right man for the job.

713
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 5: But then but then she would have been like, what

714
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 5: it means the context?

715
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, or if she asked you to make dinner?

716
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 7: Do you think that in the context of that movie,

717
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 7: of that scene, that you knew that it meant I'm

718
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 7: the right man for the job?

719
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: He says, I don't know.

720
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: They're having like a tense moment and he's like, basically,

721
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: I'll kill you.

722
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

723
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 7: Right, he's saying basically I'll kill you the man, which

724
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 7: is different than I'm the right man for the job.

725
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: No.

726
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 6: No, because in that movie they're like going back and

727
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 6: forth like i'll kill you, you'll kill me, like, and

728
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 6: that was like, but in this hypothetical scenario.

729
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 5: She might not have been paying attention that closely to

730
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 5: the plot of the film, so maybe the context is

731
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 5: lost on her, and just explaining that Huckleberry is the

732
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 5: right man for the job might still impress her.

733
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: I doubt it.

734
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: On my first date, I had the man mistake. I

735
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: was in the museum and I made the mistake.

736
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 7: This is a first date or with your wife.

737
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: My actual first date with my wife.

738
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, they played those little you can go

739
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: in those little booths and they play like those little

740
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: movies and then just starts over again. We came in

741
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: halfway through and I turned to her, say, don't worry.

742
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 1: This will end and we'll just sit here and watch

743
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: till it gets back to where we began.

744
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 6: They have a term for that these days. Don't take

745
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 6: her in.

746
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, And she's like, oh, thank you so much for

747
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: explaining that to me. I was like baffled by how

748
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: we would take in the whole thing. You know, don't

749
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: you worry your pretty little head.

750
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, this.

751
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Will come back around and we'll watch the first part.

752
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Denver police investigate body parts being removed from a luxury apartment.

753
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh this starts out sad guy writes in due to divorce,

754
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: I moved into an apartment in a nice part of

755
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: Denver Cherry Creek.

756
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 2: That's too bad. Now, I wonder, like what happened?

757
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 6: He tried to explain, Huckleberry.

758
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna be depressed all day about this guy's

759
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: marriage dissolving. It goes on, Yeah, just I mean, I

760
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: just gotta take him in to reflect on that, you know.

761
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: So he goes on and say he grew up in

762
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: western Washington, Okay, kind of slowed down, grew up hunting fishing,

763
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of slowed down on hunting fishing, got into his

764
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: mid forties, and got back into hunting during COVID. So

765
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: now here he is, he's divorced, living in an apartment.

766
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: Shoots cow el brings it back to his high end

767
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: apartment building. It's real hot. The game processor is not open.

768
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: M He starts moving parts of this elk up into

769
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: his apartment, gets a visit from law enforcement officials investigating

770
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: reports of a man moving body partners from.

771
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 8: His pickup into his apartment.

772
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: A man moving body parts into his apartment, and.

773
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 8: I wonder, like what the person reporting him must have thoughts.

774
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: Run away, I would expect him to be moving body

775
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: parts out of his apartment. Yeah, like, what scenario would

776
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: you kill someone? Put yourself into murderer shoes, you kill

777
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: someone dismember?

778
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 7: No, but his email says into pickup from apartment. Oh

779
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 7: so he doesn't quite Yeah, we're kind of we're missing

780
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 7: a little part of the story. But he must have.

781
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 7: Maybe this was after forty eight hours and he was

782
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 7: finally taken into.

783
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: The of a man loading body parts into his pickup.

784
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: That makes sense, because that's what a murder would do.

785
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 6: He sually be in a rolled up carpet though.

786
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, unless you didn't want to look suspicious.

787
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 7: Suitcase chop it. We gotta ask when.

788
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: I see guys carrying a very heavy roller carpet.

789
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always know. I know what I was looking at.

790
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 7: It looked like he was holding in You can't fool me.

791
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 5: When I was doing my dissertation research, I found a

792
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 5: newspaper article little flex there you have little Well, it's

793
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 5: how else do you find this article? In the nineteen fifties,

794
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 5: a a woman killed her children. Oh, come on, and

795
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 5: buried them in the backyard.

796
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 2: Okay, but we already got this guy. Get divorced.

797
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 5: No, and the cops came and asked the neighbors like

798
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 5: did you see this? And they're like, oh, yeah, I

799
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 5: just assumed she was bearing a bunch of deer meat

800
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 5: from the freezer.

801
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: RD can you talk to Randall's the time, Krint and

802
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: have them try to practice.

803
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 5: A little talking about they were already joking about the murder.

804
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 6: I thought it was we were joking about elk parts,

805
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 6: not children.

806
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 8: Oh my god, man, I think he's trying to make

807
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 8: the point.

808
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 5: Anything, anything's possible that it would make.

809
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 8: More sense that the average person what would imagine that

810
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 8: they be if.

811
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: You just assume everything is hunting as opposed.

812
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 6: To human fault, the average person for seeing someone carrying

813
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 6: an elk quarter and thinking it might be.

814
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: But picture, it's like the picture you've seen the movie

815
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: The Burbs, best.

816
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: Movie in the world.

817
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: Dude, Tom Hanks is married to carry Fisher, kind of

818
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: like post Princess Leah, one of the movies Carry Fisher,

819
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: Like I now am very in love with her. Then,

820
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: not Princess Leah, but Burbs.

821
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 6: You know, of the Burbs.

822
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: Some new guys move in next door to town and

823
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: they start doing weird stuff. So I'm saying, like, here

824
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: you are in a luxury apartment building. New guy moves

825
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: in kind of like, what's he got going on? Then

826
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: one day's carry him bloody packages and load him in

827
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: a truck.

828
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 5: You could see that he would think like you'd think

829
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 5: the worst, especially if you've just been watching The Burbs.

830
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: You're primed for it.

831
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 7: See something, say something.

832
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

833
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: The whole premise of The Burbs, the whole thing is this.

834
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: There's all this stuff that's so damning, damning, and it

835
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: builds you up to be like it was all a misunderstanding,

836
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: like every little thing can be explained away. But then

837
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: in the end there's a surprise twist, and it was

838
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: worse than anyone thought. My kids loved it when I

839
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: played it firm recently.

840
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 7: Oh, so I can play it. I'm gonna play it

841
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 7: for my kids. It's okay, it's an okay kid movie.

842
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 7: I got in trouble big time the other day. I

843
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 7: don't even want to mention what movie I started watching

844
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 7: with one of my kids, and all of a sudden

845
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 7: scene came on. I'm like, look the other way, blankets.

846
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 7: Oh you've got to tell us now. Oh really, yeah,

847
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 7: whatever it is, what it is? Yeah, inglorious bastards.

848
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, that's a real good one for the youngsters.

849
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 6: She's Tarantino fil It'll just.

850
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: Be like the killing will only go on for a

851
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: few hours.

852
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 6: It does just be a tastefully graphic at all.

853
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 5: It's not gratuitous violence. Tarantino never went for that.

854
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, understand kids in some ways, this is a statement

855
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: about excessive violence.

856
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 7: That par I figured it was. It was okay, and

857
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 7: she could handle it. It was the it was the

858
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 7: first sex scene that caught us off guard.

859
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: Okay, this is the guy like like this is he's

860
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: I love this guy, this great guy.

861
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 7: But he calls.

862
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 8: Himself out in like the first sentence he does.

863
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: He does, this is a good one.

864
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: I want this is one for people to think about.

865
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: Stephen Crewe.

866
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: I think I might be turning into the type of

867
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: prow I kind of glossed over his first sentence. You

868
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: are you are? He says Stephen Crewe. I think I

869
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: might be turning into the type of person I despise.

870
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: Him.

871
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: I bought some property in a midle He don't even

872
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: want to name the state. He's like, I bought some

873
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: property in a Midwest state a few years ago. The

874
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: property has a large creek about thirty feet across that

875
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: meanders through and serves as a significant dividing line between

876
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: one half of the property and the other. The creek

877
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: runs in such a way that it cuts through the

878
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: corner of the neighbor's property, leaving a small triangle. He

879
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: estimates his triangle to be about two acres of their

880
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: property on what I would refer to as my side

881
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: of the creek, because it is only accessible by crossing

882
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: the creek. When I bought the property, I knew that

883
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: there was a deer stand on the small triangle. And

884
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: after I purchased the guy who hunts the neighbor's property,

885
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: which was the owner's son in law, reached out to

886
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: me and let me know that he previously had permission

887
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: to cross my property to get to the stand.

888
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: I let him know.

889
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: That I would not that I would not allow that

890
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: same access, and he had no issue and understood my reasoning.

891
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: But he could always still cross the creek as he

892
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: pleased to access the property legally.

893
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

894
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: So he's like, hey, I can get there no matter what.

895
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: It'd be nice if I could cross your land. The

896
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: guy says, don't cross my land, So he says, cool

897
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: across on the creek. Fast forward through the last few

898
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 1: hunting seasons, and they have on multiple occasions shot at

899
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: wounded deer on opening day of firearm season. From that stand,

900
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: he says, and I don't know if you would know

901
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: this is true or not, but he says, they all

902
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: ran off their property onto mine in another neighboring property.

903
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: Each time they have politely notified me and asked me

904
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: if they could track the deer across my property. State

905
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: law allows access onto other private property to retrieve game.

906
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: So I have a bly as I respect their communication

907
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: and honesty, and because you couldn't.

908
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 2: Not oblige, that was me editorializing.

909
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: They even said they would not carry weapons, to which

910
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: I thought, well, what the hell are you going to

911
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: do if it isn't dead, but kept that to myself.

912
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to editorialize for a minute. In some states

913
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: where you're allowed to legally go on to another state

914
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: to retrieve game, the rule is that you can go

915
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: on to the other property unarmed to retrieve game, which

916
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: I had to exercise one time hunting sandhill cranes in Texas.

917
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: A couple times we had birds sail off on another

918
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: guy's place and you had to chase them, but you

919
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: couldn't chase them with the shotgun. But you were allowed

920
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: to go directly there, get your bird, come back, no gun.

921
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 6: I mean in this case, it was also just like

922
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 6: a gesture of good faith. Right, They're like, you.

923
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 2: Know, but I don't know about the legality.

924
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: We could do some quick work because there's only so

925
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: many Midwest states that have retrieval rights.

926
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: However, what he's doing, which God bless.

927
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: Him, Connor here, I don't want to turn him off

928
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 1: because he's like a listener, But then I don't want

929
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: to be this is tough love. He's he's he's trying

930
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: to make like he's doing a retort. Connor, the guy

931
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: writing in the listener, the fan is doing a thing

932
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: where he's like kind of doing little things to make

933
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: himself seem good. They're allowed to go get it, he says,

934
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: So why obliged? Yeah, but they're allowed to.

935
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 2: Right man.

936
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 6: But I think they were telling him like out of

937
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 6: good faith.

938
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: He says, so why obliged? But it wasn't your call.

939
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: Then they're like, I won't even bring a gun. Well,

940
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: how are you gonna get anyway? Well, then why not

941
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: say why don't you bring your gun just in case,

942
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: just in case, since I'm a good neighbor.

943
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 8: But I wonder about these hunters, like the direction that

944
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 8: they're hunting in and shooting in.

945
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: It's one point five to two acres. If I was

946
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: sitting on a piece, it was one point five to

947
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: two acres. All I'd be thinking about is what's going

948
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: to happen when I got to go on the neighbor's place.

949
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 5: I'm looking at his property right now? Yeah, at all.

950
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 6: And obviously on X and obviously can you find the corner? Yeah,

951
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 6: we shouldn't be talking about that.

952
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 2: No, but no, but no one knows his name. They know,

953
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 2: they know he's in the Midwest, and his name's.

954
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: Common only we know the name full names in the

955
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 5: show notes.

956
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, oh, Randall.

957
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 6: I feel like these people obviously had a much different

958
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 6: relationship with the previous owner. Where are they probably shooting

959
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 6: onto his property and he was okay with.

960
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: It because the old owner was like, oh yeah, man,

961
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: cut across my property, let's all have a good time,

962
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: let's be neighborly.

963
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 2: You know, that was the old owner, right. The whole

964
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: thing has started to become a bit bothersome to me.

965
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: To me, he says, this is the guy talking again.

966
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Me being a very non confrontational my Westerner, would never

967
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: put myself in a situation where a dear eye shot

968
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: is pretty much guaranteed to enter another property forcing me

969
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: to interact with the owner, even though we have that

970
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: right as given by the state that I agree with.

971
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: I don't like that kind of stuff.

972
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: My property is not large, so when these situations have occurred,

973
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: it has essentially ended my hunt for the day.

974
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: How many acres has he got? Randal?

975
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 5: Uh?

976
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: Let me pull back up here.

977
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 7: Well, I don't do we want to give away that

978
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 7: information because then.

979
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: It'll come on the guy's name. YEA, somewhere in a

980
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: quadrant of America. Okay, somewhere in a quadrant of America

981
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: is forty acres with a creek.

982
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I've been on that place.

983
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 7: Why I think. I don't know if he kept it out,

984
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 7: but I think that it's a narrow a lot of

985
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 7: context in the situation.

986
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 2: So maybe he should hunting his own place because.

987
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 7: The size of his and knowing the size of the neighbors.

988
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 7: Are you ready to dissect this or do you need

989
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 7: to read this?

990
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: No?

991
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: No, no, we're not there yet. We're getting there. My property

992
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: is not large or he did that. Oh, it essentially

993
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: ended my hunt for the day, as they have intruded

994
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: into the heart of my hunting area and very likely

995
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: spooked any deer that were in the area. I have

996
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: considered telling them my feelings about them hunting the very

997
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: small piece of property, offering to buy it from the landowner,

998
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: even building a fence around the triangle. And I even

999
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: hung a tree stand not far from the property line.

1000
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm here.

1001
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: Too, there's gonna wind up being a Blood Trails episode.

1002
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: This creek. There's gonna wind that be in a Blood

1003
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: Trails episode coming out of this place and the not

1004
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: so near future. So so he went and set a

1005
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: tree stand up close to their property line.

1006
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 6: I just don't think you can say they're intruding not

1007
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 6: far from the property line myself, as a major game

1008
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 6: trail passes right through the triangle.

1009
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 8: No, but he meant intruding, like when they actually come

1010
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 8: on to try to retrieve they are.

1011
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 6: No, they say, there's it's more like they're intruding on

1012
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 6: his hunt.

1013
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm baking up.

1014
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 8: When they physically come on to his property to retrieve,

1015
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 8: they are intruding.

1016
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: No, he's saying, Okay, I'll do a quick recap. But

1017
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: because I can understand with all the interruptions, that's why

1018
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: I finished.

1019
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: I want to fish the poor guy's letter.

1020
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: I feel odd to myself and my morals as someone

1021
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: who hunts public land in the West and often groans

1022
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: over the actions some landowners take to protect their property

1023
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: from hunters. Have I become the private land owner a hole.

1024
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: Just to recap.

1025
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: No, it's clear he's got a little chunk. He's got

1026
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: forty acres. I'm jealous part of it. He's got a

1027
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: little one point five His neighbor owns a little one

1028
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: point five two acre wedge that sits on like what

1029
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: he considers to be his side of the creek. They

1030
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: keep a stand over there. When they shoot a deer,

1031
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: the deer doesn't have to go far to get off.

1032
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: A one point five acre parcel winds up on his place.

1033
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: They have trespass rights to retrieve their game. They go

1034
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: get their game. It's on opening DA a gun season.

1035
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: They're now stirring around on his side of the fence.

1036
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: Everybody's pissed. I got a solution.

1037
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 5: It's a one point one acre using on X's He

1038
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 5: oversold it shape.

1039
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: To him, yep, because he was manipulative in other ways,

1040
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: but heman he he like he could.

1041
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: Have manipulated it and rounded down.

1042
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 5: They rounded up, but he rounded up on.

1043
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 8: That one gives those guys a lot of free reign

1044
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 8: and go cross. This is probably not a fence, right.

1045
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 6: He never insinuated that they're shooting deer on his property either.

1046
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 6: They're like the old guy.

1047
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 2: I think the old owner. Here's my solution.

1048
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 6: I'd be so frustrated.

1049
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: Let's just build intension. I think he makes a pack

1050
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: a pact because here's the deal. From his bargaining position.

1051
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: He might be on the receiving end of more people

1052
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: coming on his land and vice versa.

1053
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: But you don't need to come with that.

1054
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: You could come saying. So this guy goes to the

1055
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: neighbor and plays this little mind trick. He goes to

1056
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: a neighbor and says, man, you know I got forty acres.

1057
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: It's paradise, dude. But let's be honest, I could easily

1058
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: shoot a deer that could get across the creek and

1059
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: disturb your hunt on opening day. And I mean it's

1060
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: not out of the questions that would happened to you

1061
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: on my place. Well, there, we ought to do just

1062
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: so I can feel better about it, because this has

1063
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: been weighing on me, because inevitably me or one of

1064
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: my buddies is going to send a deer over onto

1065
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: your property.

1066
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna go chasing after it, as.

1067
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: We have the right to do. But to think that

1068
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: I would go over there and bump a buck, I

1069
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to live with myself. So let's do

1070
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: this in the first few days of firearm season. Let's

1071
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: round up at dark. We'll call each other at dark

1072
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: if anyone needs to come over and check on the

1073
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: other side, that's when we'll do it, so that we're

1074
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: not bumping anybody's hunt. Granted it might sit for a

1075
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: few hours, but that's not terrible till dusk. What do

1076
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: you say, old neighbor.

1077
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 7: It would be a great way to handle it.

1078
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 6: It is.

1079
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 5: I think it's the most diplomatic way to handle it.

1080
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 6: A financial hostile takeover would work. Now you just just

1081
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 6: bake him an offer he can't refuse.

1082
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 5: Does it change? Does it change your opinion at all?

1083
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 5: That this creek is seventy five feet across? Why did

1084
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 5: he say it was thirty I'm just measuring it with

1085
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 5: Onyxes tool.

1086
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: This guy's bad at measurements.

1087
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 6: Seventy fives pretty seventy five is like a that's a river.

1088
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: He's he's doing it. He's wading, he's not even crossing.

1089
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. The ONEX tool says twenty four.

1090
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 8: That's a lot of effort then for these hunters to

1091
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 8: get to that.

1092
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 7: It depends on if you look at the property, you go, oh, yeah,

1093
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 7: that's where you want to that's where you want to

1094
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 7: be brill at his Yeah, because the neighbor's property is

1095
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 7: like nine non timbered, so his tempercent that is timbered.

1096
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 7: One acre of that happens beyond the other side of

1097
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 7: the creek.

1098
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: Or narrowing this place down even more.

1099
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: No, No, I trust me. Here's the deal man. Now,

1100
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm rechanging my thing. Now, I'm rechanging. Now, I'm getting

1101
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: like a like an eagle stern inside me.

1102
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1103
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: It's like this dude, the more I think about it,

1104
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: he didn't make up the rule that you can retrieve

1105
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: game off property. He owns the damn land, right, It's like,

1106
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: what's he supposed to do? Not hunt his own place?

1107
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 5: So if if but here's here's where I play Devil's Advocate.

1108
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 5: If a deer never crosses the creek, right, Like, if

1109
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 5: you shoot a deer and one hundred percent of the

1110
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 5: time it runs onto his place.

1111
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: Because he's not going to cross. They'll jump a little creek.

1112
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: Not jump, they'll they'll wade, but they're not going to win.

1113
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: They're wounded, they're not gonna want to cross.

1114
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 5: If they look at this, there's no way that any

1115
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 5: deer is going to turn and cross this thing.

1116
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 2: Have I heard of this creek before?

1117
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 5: No? But I'm just thinking, like, so, if you owned

1118
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 5: one acre along that creek and you just and every

1119
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 5: deer you shot ran off your property, is your property

1120
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 5: too small to hunt?

1121
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't believe there is such a thing.

1122
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: The state allows hate the game, not the player. Yep,

1123
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: the state allows retrieval. What is he supposed to do?

1124
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, but what about the intent of the hunters if

1125
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 8: they know that one hundred percent of the time that

1126
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,959
Speaker 8: they cross that creek and stand on that little one

1127
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 8: acre or parcel and hunt deer, that.

1128
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't believe. I don't believe him on that.

1129
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: And I would invite people here at sitting at this

1130
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: table to ask yourself this question. Of all the deer

1131
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: that you have personally shot and scene gets shot, all

1132
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: of the white tailed deer that you have shot or

1133
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: scene get shot by a firearm, what percent have left

1134
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: the center of one acre parcels a minority, minority for

1135
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: a minority leave the area.

1136
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 8: What if you're shooting as dear that is almost on

1137
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 8: the the the over almost across.

1138
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 7: The he takes one jump and he's on the neighbors.

1139
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 5: If you shoot, if you shoot one dead nuts in

1140
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 5: the middle of this triangle, it's twenty eight yards to

1141
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 5: the property line.

1142
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 8: But again, and if you double along it, you could

1143
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 8: still you could still easy traverse that distance.

1144
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 5: And I'm not I'm not saying that like his neighbors

1145
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 5: shouldn't be allowed to do this. I'm just saying like

1146
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 5: he's right and feeling that they're kind of being no

1147
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 5: imposing neighbors.

1148
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 7: You know what, my kids a lot I say, tough

1149
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 7: titty said the kitty titty at our house that you

1150
00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 7: can add a little meal. But here's the deal, it

1151
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 7: doesn't matter if it's one acre or another forty acre chunk.

1152
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 7: We used to own a forty acre chunk that had

1153
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 7: three neighbors each and then one neighbor was the county road, right,

1154
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 7: so it was you get when I'm painting here, all

1155
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,959
Speaker 7: of the neighbors stands seemed like they were right on

1156
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 7: the property line.

1157
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: Everybody knows is a screener. The bucks are on the

1158
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: neighbors or they're crossing.

1159
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 7: I don't know what they think. No, we call it

1160
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 7: no no, No, that's the end of my story. I'm

1161
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 7: just saying that, Like, it doesn't matter if it's an

1162
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 7: acre or forty. People hunt on those borders where that

1163
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 7: stuff is gonna happen all the time or u.

1164
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: The main border. We had to deal with growing up

1165
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: deer hunting. You know what was we called the other

1166
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 1: side of that fence.

1167
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: No man's land. Meanwhile, that guy was like, no, this

1168
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: is the center of the universe. This is my farm.

1169
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: It was like, don't go down to no man's land.

1170
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 6: I also think it's like, are those guys coming on

1171
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 6: to that one acre, Like they ain't going there to

1172
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 6: hunt one acre?

1173
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: So now you're saying that the landowner owns the deer.

1174
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 6: No, I'm not saying that, but like you see, like

1175
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 6: you're gonna go hunt a spot where you're like your

1176
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 6: intentions is like only to hunt the deer that come

1177
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 6: onto that one acre.

1178
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: Yes, if God said, if you said, Steve, you have

1179
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: one acre, choose to hunt or not, you can go

1180
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: on your neighbors to get your deer, I would go hunt.

1181
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 7: I mean, imagine if that one acre was like sandwich

1182
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 7: between Lee and Tiffany's and and Bill Winkie's, you know,

1183
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 7: to each.

1184
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: Narrow, like connecting those two.

1185
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 7: I know exactly where to hit him so they don't

1186
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 7: leave my one acre, you know.

1187
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1188
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 5: Well, it's also raised the question how many how many

1189
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 5: deer are they shooting per year? Like if they're just

1190
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 5: screwing up his opening morning every year, I think.

1191
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 2: You just yea.

1192
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: But I already came up with a solution how to

1193
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: thx that. I'm just saying this, dude, I'm saying in America,

1194
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: like I don't care if you have one tree, Yeah,

1195
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't. If it's legal, if you're not in the limits,

1196
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: you can legally discharge a firearm.

1197
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: You have an acre. Your state says retrieval.

1198
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: Is okay, I don't think you're in the wrong. If

1199
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: your state said retrieval is not okay without permission like

1200
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: the one we live in.

1201
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 2: And then you called and you said, what would be

1202
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: the chances I could retrieve a deer on your place?

1203
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: They say, the minute you touch your foot on my property,

1204
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm calling the sheriff. I'd be like, man, we can't

1205
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: hunt the one acre, yeah, right, Like, no matter what,

1206
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't care what kind of gun, we ain't hunting

1207
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: the one acre. Yeah, because that guy is going to

1208
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: call the sheriff and we can't guarantee that it's going

1209
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: to stay on the one acre.

1210
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 7: I feel like you have to answer his question. Have

1211
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 7: I become the private landowner?

1212
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Asked I'm afraid so, with all due respect.

1213
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 6: But his I think that's more of not a private

1214
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 6: land thing. It's like a neighbor thing, because it's not

1215
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 6: like private versus public.

1216
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: You know what doctor said to me the other day.

1217
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: They're telling me their day. Oh my friend, Oh the

1218
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: same doctor that she's the CWD incident.

1219
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 2: She said to me. When a parent asked.

1220
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 7: Is my doctor no no different.

1221
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: D D, she said, when a parent asks a question

1222
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: about food for their kids, she stops worrying about any

1223
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: parent that asks a question about healthy choice foods for

1224
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: their kids. She never worries about the kid because the

1225
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: parent thought to ask a question. She said, it's the

1226
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: ones that would never think to ask. That's just her

1227
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: a thing she's picked up over the years. Yeah, the

1228
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: fact that you'd be like, hey, is it okay if

1229
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: my kids, She's like, kid's probably fine.

1230
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: They at least wonder.

1231
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1232
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: And I also just think, like, so this guy, maybe

1233
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: he's not so bad because he's at least wondering to ask.

1234
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 5: He's also not saying that they're doing something horrible. He's

1235
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 5: just saying like, this has sort of become annoying to me.

1236
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 5: Is there a way to fix this? The pact?

1237
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think he's become a private land asshole whatsoever.

1238
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 7: It'd be annoying to anybody. So you can do what

1239
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 7: Steve said. I think that also offering to buy the

1240
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 7: one acre, I mean if he can afford it by

1241
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 7: definitely yeah, you know, I mean if an acre goes

1242
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 7: for eight and like he's got fifteen that he can

1243
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 7: spend on this, and just yeah, offer him and it's

1244
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 7: that important to him, do it, Like it's not gonna

1245
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 7: make anything mad to offer.

1246
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 6: The interesting thing is.

1247
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: None to this.

1248
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 6: I don't even think he'd be having this conversation if

1249
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 6: that creek wasn't there, if it was just a.

1250
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 5: Corner of Yeah, he's got a sweet, he's got a sweet.

1251
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: Trump's his chief diplomat, Steve Whitcoff, he's doing well. He

1252
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: could maybe go over there and talk to him. But him,

1253
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 1: when you get back from when you get back from Ukraine,

1254
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: you talk to my neighbors about their one acre.

1255
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: All right, here's one. Here's a plea for help. I

1256
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: never felt so bad for someone in all my life.

1257
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 2: There might be more to the story, dude. You think

1258
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: it's more of the story.

1259
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 8: No, I felt real.

1260
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 7: There's more to this story.

1261
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: It might be more to the story. Hi Steve, I'm

1262
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: from Alberta, Canada. I've been hunting for three years for

1263
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: deer and have had no success. I'm the first hunter

1264
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: in my family. My friends don't hunt, and most of

1265
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: my colleagues don't hunt. Of the hunters I've found and

1266
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: spoken to, they are all unwilling to provide me any

1267
01:05:55,120 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: genuine guidance I've received at keep trying, and one day

1268
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: everyone gate keeps their hunting locations. Tactics ideas how to

1269
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: contact landowners, how to determine if the land is good,

1270
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: the etiquette of approaching the land owner and.

1271
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: Anything else you can think of.

1272
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: I would say, with the notable exception of this show,

1273
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: which has provided endless guidance on all of those issues.

1274
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: By I think he means local people in Alberta. I

1275
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: don't even know what direction people go to hunt. I

1276
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: actually believe some people tell me west to the mountains,

1277
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: but I see images of them hunting.

1278
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: To the northeast or south.

1279
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 6: He's starting to figure it out here.

1280
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: I tell my kids it's like your hunt were none

1281
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: in your creeks in the Business River.

1282
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 5: See a photo of a with a deer in a

1283
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 5: big wheat field, and you're like, oh, kill him up

1284
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 5: in the bridges.

1285
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So people are like, hey, man, go up in

1286
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 2: the mountains.

1287
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: But in their pictures there to the north, they're like, hey,

1288
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: go west in the mountains.

1289
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 2: He sees their pictures in there.

1290
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 5: They're out on the plains.

1291
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: They're on the prairies two points north, south and east.

1292
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 5: I'd stop asking those people any questions.

1293
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: He goes on to say, I've consistently gone almost every

1294
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: weekend for three seasons, and the only animals. So this

1295
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: guy has gotten three years and he has gotten a grouse.

1296
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: It's become extremely expensive and painful to drive two hours

1297
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: solo to see absolutely nothing because I've been sent on

1298
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: a goose chase.

1299
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 6: Like he seems like he's getting vindictive.

1300
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, spent three years. Yeah, I mean how long is

1301
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: he supposed to stay in a good mood about it?

1302
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1303
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: I've done as much googling as I can, but even

1304
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: Google can't mentor me.

1305
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 6: Thanks, please help you forgot.

1306
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: So here's the ask, and I can't. This is no

1307
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 2: guarantee on my part.

1308
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: If this winds up being a blood Trails episode, it's

1309
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: not my fault. If someone wants to write in and

1310
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: puts the subject line.

1311
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: What are they right into? Contact at something or another the.

1312
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 8: Meat Eater podcast at the whatever Yeah, type in uh,

1313
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 8: can you find the address.

1314
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: To write Roman a note? Put down a Canadian guy

1315
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: Alberta guy, head West guy, Krouse guy, skunk guy, something

1316
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,839
Speaker 1: like that in the subject line. If you're from Alberta,

1317
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: you want to take this guy out under your wing, send.

1318
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 7: Us a yeah. Or if you're like a cool rancher

1319
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 7: and you're like I got plenty of deer on.

1320
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 2: My that would be the best.

1321
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: If there's a rancher who like generally doesn't want anybody

1322
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 1: hunting but wants to let this guy on just so

1323
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 1: he can stick it to the other guys.

1324
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, there are a couple of emails, but just

1325
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 8: go for meat eater at the meat eater dot.

1326
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: You don't like the whole sticking it to him things.

1327
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 2: You want to keep it positive.

1328
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's trying to keep it positive, not sticking

1329
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: it to him or anything.

1330
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be very nice of anybody in Alberta,

1331
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 7: you know that could that could help out this fellaw Yeah,

1332
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 7: I just wonder a couple of things.

1333
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, Alberta is an awful bit, Like what if

1334
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 2: he's in town? Right, he's got to be an Edmonton

1335
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: or something, right because he doesn't.

1336
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: Say though he doesn't, but but he's like going, if

1337
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: you're an Edmonton does that make sense?

1338
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: Randall?

1339
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: If you're in Edmonton, you go west and all that

1340
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 1: there's Calgary, Yeah, Calgory.

1341
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 7: I just want to say this that if you take

1342
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 7: out his uh interactions with these other hunters that aren't

1343
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 7: helping him, he leaves his age. I think that's what

1344
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 7: that's for. That number twenty four. He's a young fella.

1345
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 7: He's only been at hunting.

1346
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: Three I've read that to mean that, oh, you're right,

1347
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: it's not twenty twenty four. He's twenty four years old. Yeah, right,

1348
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: so he's gonna analyze this.

1349
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 7: I am Okay, he's only twenty four. He's only been

1350
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 7: at it three years. Uh, Karin, you're a pretty new hunter.

1351
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 7: You've been at it longer than three years at this point, I.

1352
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 8: Think this is only my fifth season.

1353
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 7: Fifth season? Do you think is it really? Is it

1354
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,719
Speaker 7: really out of the question? She hasn't killed him mountain

1355
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 7: of stuff. I think she's always telling me about struggling

1356
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 7: like it's it took a while to get into it.

1357
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 5: Probably how me, dear you got She also works here.

1358
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 5: She doesn't have our friend's problem.

1359
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: She's got six deer, a kyote, what else, the.

1360
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 6: Elk, and a shipload of mentors, which this guy doesn't

1361
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 6: whole mountain stuff.

1362
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 7: But I think she can see. She could see more

1363
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 7: than us, because for us it's so far in our past.

1364
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 7: She could see that it's not unfathomable that you could

1365
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,719
Speaker 7: hunt for three seasons and not kill something. Yeah, for sure,

1366
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 7: that's just that's my point. So I think to this fella,

1367
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, like, dude, the ship is not easy.

1368
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 7: We have mentored people.

1369
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: I just feel bad for him though, still you should

1370
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: because I feel like people are being mean to him.

1371
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,879
Speaker 7: Maybe yeah, well again, there's always more to the story.

1372
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 7: We've mentored people on through Meat Eater that were very

1373
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 7: capable adults. We showed him how to hunt, We hunted

1374
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 7: with them, We were successful. They did not continue down

1375
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 7: the hunting path because it was.

1376
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 2: Too much pain in the ass.

1377
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 5: Yes, I also wonder, like his friends don't hunt, his

1378
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 5: colleagues don't hunt. So then he says, of the hunters

1379
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 5: I've found and spoken to, like who are you asking?

1380
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 5: Are you just asking strangers? Like I think you need

1381
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 5: to build a relationship.

1382
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 2: And there's a guy standing there in some camo, yeah

1383
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: the coffee.

1384
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 5: Like you see a deer in the back of someone's truck.

1385
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: You know, where'd you get that? Guy's like to the west.

1386
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 5: Like like he doesn't have family, friends or colleagues to

1387
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 5: rely on, So like, who is he talking to? Like

1388
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 5: go volunteer in some conservations all the biologists for.

1389
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 2: Could these creeping people out? Yeah? Could be creeping people out? Yeah?

1390
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 5: Like, you're not going to get these suggestions if you

1391
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 5: don't have the sort of built up social capital with

1392
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 5: these people.

1393
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if he wrote a longer email with more

1394
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: detail and in it he was like, So what I

1395
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: do is, you see, people are usually home in the

1396
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: middle of the night, So if I know someone hunts,

1397
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: I'll find their home and knock on the door in

1398
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: the middle of the night to catch them home.

1399
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 5: Or I'll look in their windows to see if they

1400
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 5: have trophies hanging up.

1401
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 2: And once I determined they're a hunter. Now, but I

1402
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: do think I'll introduce myself.

1403
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 5: You have to build the relationships before you're gonna get

1404
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 5: any sort of help.

1405
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: You know that's true.

1406
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, if a dude came up to me, Yeah,

1407
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: if a dude came up to me and I don't

1408
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: know who he was, and he was like, Hey, where'd

1409
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: you get that goose with missing half his bill? Yeah,

1410
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: I'd probably go, uh west to here, Yeah.

1411
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 2: A long ways west.

1412
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 7: I think we've given him plenty of advice.

1413
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things on the planet.

1414
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not recommending this because people are gonna read

1415
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: it and they're gonna get all hot under the hood, But

1416
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 1: there's a very funny writer named Nelly Bowls and she

1417
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: writes for Free Press. One of my favorite things to

1418
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: do when I wake up on Friday morning is to

1419
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:59,520
Speaker 1: read Nelly Bowles's Weekend Review. What it's called TGIF. In TGIF,

1420
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: it's a com it's a humor column. It comes out Friday.

1421
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: By the time I wake up, it's already out. I

1422
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: get up early, and I lay there and I read

1423
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 1: in my bed, and I chuckled myself. And it's a

1424
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: it's she starts out, she hacks the right to pieces,

1425
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: and then she hacks the left to pieces.

1426
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: She's she's a comedy writer. She's a humor writer.

1427
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: She does a funny take on the news. It's satire,

1428
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: but she's very good about ridiculing everyone in a.

1429
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 2: Way that it's just funny.

1430
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: She had a blip, and I was kind of unaware

1431
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: of this. She had a blip about the Sierra Club,

1432
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: like that there's been a bit of an implosion at

1433
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: Sierra Club. Are you aware of this?

1434
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit.

1435
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: Some revelations that have cost the Sierra Club a lot

1436
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: of brand equity. In this thing, what I'm gonna get

1437
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: to is this really funny equity Language guide.

1438
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: Which I thought was hilarious that she talks about in there.

1439
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: But I didn't know this.

1440
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: The Sierra Club got to the point where they had

1441
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: two people on fighting the Trump administration on anwar and

1442
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and eight people on DEI initiatives, and it

1443
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: was talking about that that imbalance of core mission to

1444
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 1: internal politics that have been problematic for Sierra Club.

1445
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 2: But they came out with this guide.

1446
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: Now I went and found the guide and was thumbing

1447
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: through it, and it gives all these things you shouldn't

1448
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: say and what to say instead, like don't say pull

1449
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 1: the trigger, you should instead say go for it. Don't

1450
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 1: use locked and loaded instead try ready to go. Don't

1451
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: say bulletproof, say guaranteed to succeed. Smoking gun should be

1452
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: incontrovertible evidence or the damning facts of the case. Don't

1453
01:15:58,320 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 1: use chokehold.

1454
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 7: That's twice that twice this episode that you've pronounced uh

1455
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 7: damn that way? Are you doing that in jes damning?

1456
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 7: That's how you correctly pronounced that word.

1457
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 2: Well, hot damn is d a m n.

1458
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 7: I know, but you don't hear the N when you

1459
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 7: say hot damn.

1460
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 2: But how do you say damning just like that? Damning? No,

1461
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 2: you don't think it is that true.

1462
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 7: I thought you were.

1463
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 5: Damning damning evidence.

1464
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: Damn you damn damn listen, dude.

1465
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: I'd never say that in but in this context with

1466
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,480
Speaker 1: the N I don't say damning.

1467
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 2: Damning. Yeah, is it truly a silent end? You guys

1468
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 2: are right, I believe Anyways, I just think it's funny.

1469
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Oh because remember how they said someone said

1470
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: that D Day was a day that will live an infamy. Yeah,

1471
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: don't use that because that makes people feel like it's

1472
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 1: military Pearl Harbor.

1473
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Instead you say history has its eyes on you.

1474
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: Wow.

1475
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 2: This list is okay.

1476
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: One last news bit, maybe two. This is the this

1477
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: is actual news. This, This is one of those This

1478
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: is one of those news stories that makes its own gravy.

1479
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: And this is Brody should be an expert on this

1480
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: because he's from Colorado.

1481
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: In fact, Brody's one.

1482
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: Of many people that sent this to me. It's a

1483
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: policy thing starting on January first, twenty twenty six, so

1484
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: coming right up here in the state of Colorado, there

1485
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: will be a bifurcation of how bison are legally treated. Now,

1486
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:58,959
Speaker 1: get this. This is a unanimous decision from what the Commission.

1487
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Commission and the Department of Bags involved too.

1488
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: They have to be, so I might.

1489
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: I might start out by saying how it is in

1490
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: other places. Let me give you how it is here

1491
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: in the state of Montana, and I talk with this

1492
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 1: all damn time. In the state of Montana, bison buffalo

1493
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: are the only native animal that is not legally regarded

1494
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: as a wild animal. They are legally classified as livestock. Okay,

1495
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: Colorado has plenty of ranches, bison ranches, privately owned and

1496
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: fenced bison herds. Starting on the first of the year.

1497
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: I'll get into what this aal means in a minute,

1498
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: but starting on the first of the year, there will

1499
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: be privately owned and fence bison herds. Okay, they will

1500
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: continue to be listed as livestock. But starting on that

1501
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 1: day forward, if a free ranging bison enters the state

1502
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 1: of Colorado from a neighboring state.

1503
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 6: Or if they establish themselves eventually, oh well, but if

1504
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,480
Speaker 6: they don't walk in, well I'm saying, like and stay

1505
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 6: or there's a reintroduction or whatever.

1506
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, is that true?

1507
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think go ahead and finish, But I'll say

1508
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 6: why I think it's true.

1509
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: Well, my understanding is the wording is free ranging bison

1510
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: that naturally enter the state from neighboring areas.

1511
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 6: Yep.

1512
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 8: So not reintroduction yet.

1513
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: Become de facto, become day facto wildlife when they enter

1514
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: the state. I want to talk more about where that's

1515
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: not true because this is all hypothetical in Colorado because

1516
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet. But it's very interesting because it couldn't.

1517
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a minute. It could happen,

1518
01:19:58,160 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: and this is why that's cool that they did that

1519
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 1: in Montana. So when when a when a buffalo leaves

1520
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: Yellstone National Park and crosses the invisible to them invisible

1521
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: border and enters the state, we go, what you just

1522
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: stop being wildlife there, buddy, and they can shoot you,

1523
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: round you up, load you up, send you to slaughter

1524
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: whatever the hell they want. They don't have to honor

1525
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: it as wildlife, but they always point to south to people.

1526
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 1: If a grizzly bear, a wolf, a wolverine, a big

1527
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 1: horn sheep, a mountain go elk, a mule deer, a

1528
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: white tailed deer, a black bear, that could go on

1529
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: all day, any of those things crosses that boundary and

1530
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: walks into Montana, that's some bitches wildlife. If he's a buffalo.

1531
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: He's not he's livestock, which means they they're preventing them

1532
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: from ever getting onto public land as wildlife because they don't.

1533
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't.

1534
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 7: They can't legally be wildlife and private land as wildlie.

1535
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah and private land.

1536
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 6: And there's management levers that they want to be able

1537
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 6: to pull.

1538
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to shoot them.

1539
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: They used to just flat out like they used to

1540
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: flat out Department of Livestock would sit there and flat

1541
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: out shoot them roll and then public pressure led them

1542
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: to be that. Now they have hunts for the tribes,

1543
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: they have public draw hunts, but still they are not

1544
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: allowed to just come and hang.

1545
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's a line in the sand where like

1546
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 5: if they get past all the hunters, you know, they

1547
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 5: get killed by whatever Department of Livestock.

1548
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: So Colorado, say what you want about them down in

1549
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 1: Colorado for bringing wolves in.

1550
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 2: And not letting them walk in.

1551
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: If I was Colorado, if I was the Emperor of Colorado,

1552
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: I would have not done the I would have not

1553
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: done the reintroduction, and ould have waited till they walked

1554
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: in on their own four feet, which was happening anyways, So.

1555
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 2: Anyways, out of waited on this. I don't know.

1556
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: No one's talking about a reintroduction effort. Maybe they will,

1557
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: but the groundwork is set now. And why they're getting

1558
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: at this is over in Utah. There's a book Cliff's Herd.

1559
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: Utah has that like the Henry Mountains, Utah has a

1560
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: couple of free ranging wild herds of buffalo and these

1561
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: book cliff ones are a genetic had said, even get

1562
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: into that they're genetically peer, which that whole conversation, in

1563
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 1: my mind is a lot of bs, meaning people that

1564
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: don't like the animals will delegitimize certain herds of them

1565
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: by saying that they're like not genetically peer.

1566
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 6: They have cattled some remnin.

1567
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, like like some if you take a blood sample

1568
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: from for instance, if you go to the north rim

1569
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: of the Grand Canyon in Arizona on Grand Canyon National

1570
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: Park where there's buffalo that run wild, and the park

1571
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: service down there doesn't like them. Generally speaking, they tolerate

1572
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: them kind of. They would say, oh, the problem is

1573
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 1: they're not genetically peer. But if you took one hundred

1574
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,879
Speaker 1: Americans and said and showed them one of those animals

1575
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 1: and said, hey, what is that?

1576
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 5: Listen?

1577
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: One hundred but go, that's a bison. They just are,

1578
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 2: but deep.

1579
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: In their history is like a little bit of cattle introgression,

1580
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: and so people use that cattle introgression bs to like

1581
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 1: delegitimize certain populations. Yeah, well it's not really a bison,

1582
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: so it's like, let's get rid of them.

1583
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:38,560
Speaker 6: So with this situation, the books Cliffs ones occasionally.

1584
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: Do walk across into Colorado, so they're set in the

1585
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: groundwork that as those book Cliffs ones drift into Colorado,

1586
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: it's up to fishing. It's up to Colorado Fishing parks

1587
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: to determine what happens to it. Parks and wildlife parks

1588
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: and wildlife can go no, cool, they're cool, they're cool.

1589
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: Don't mess them as wildlife. If you want to hunt them,

1590
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to draw tag, right, you can't just

1591
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,440
Speaker 1: shoot them as arrant livestock.

1592
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 6: And it would allow them to manage CPW to manage

1593
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 6: them if they did, like a herd established himself eventually.

1594
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is very much a step in the right direction.

1595
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, in my mind.

1596
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: And and just to show you not even biases, I'm

1597
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: like open about this all the time. I am of

1598
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 1: the opinion, like categorically of the opinion that we could be.

1599
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 2: We could have a lot more buffalo bison.

1600
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 1: I don't care what you want to call them. We

1601
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 1: could have a lot more buffalo on the landscape for

1602
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: people to see, for people to hunt. It's like, it's

1603
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,680
Speaker 1: just time to get this going, and this is a

1604
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: step in the right direction. I would love to see this.

1605
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: This I would love to see in my own state.

1606
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: I would love to see them Montana. The same attitude.

1607
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: If it walks in, if it's a wild an animal

1608
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: and it walks in on its own four feet, it's

1609
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 1: a wild animal.

1610
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 2: Cut the tape, Phil, We're not moving.

1611
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 6: On another one.

1612
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 2: Man.

1613
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: I want to get into this Michigan thing, but it's

1614
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: like a long time thing to talk about.

1615
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 5: Let's go. We gotta bite him at the bottom.

1616
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 7: Though, yeap sweepstakes, which I didn't know about. I might

1617
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 7: even apply for this by five tickets.

1618
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 2: Oh you know what I wanted to talk about.

1619
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 7: He's sweet go to Steve's but couldn't eat dinner bench.

1620
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 2: At the office. We should have put this up front.

1621
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: I yes, yes, you know what, Phil, Let's put it

1622
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 2: up front.

1623
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 7: If you win, you're not allowed to go to Steve's

1624
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 7: house and say that to him.

1625
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: From now until December twenty ninth for running to sweep Steaks.

1626
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: This should have really been up top.

1627
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna you're you're gonna say this thing.

1628
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to copy and paste it right up front

1629
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 3: and then reason why.

1630
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,480
Speaker 2: Okay, And then when you're sitting here listening out holder.

1631
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: People will get to the end and hear you say, Hey, Phil,

1632
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 3: and you've already.

1633
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: Heard me say this.

1634
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:19,759
Speaker 1: Duh, I already said it. We're running to sweep steaks

1635
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: from now until December twenty ninth.

1636
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 2: This is a hell of a sweep Steaks deal. What

1637
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 2: you get, you get a trip to Bozeman.

1638
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 1: So we cover round trip airfare for for you and

1639
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 1: three friends or family members, so a total of four people.

1640
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: We cover your airfare, your lodging, and your car. You

1641
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: stay two nights in town. I cook dinner. We'll do

1642
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: it here at our at our at our headquarters kitchen,

1643
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: and I'll get some of the guys to help out

1644
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: some of the I'll just put out all company for helpers.

1645
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 1: We will cook you a mini course meal. I will

1646
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: serve it to you personally. We will give you a

1647
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: one thousand dollar gift card to our retail store on

1648
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: Main Street. You know, don't even to throw this out there,

1649
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: and we'll arrange for you to go down there privately

1650
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: if you'd like, you can go down there after hours

1651
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: with Alec.

1652
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 6: Do they get to pick when they come out or

1653
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 6: do you.

1654
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: Have like you know what I mean, Alex Zimmers.

1655
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 6: Do they get or is it a specific time?

1656
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: No?

1657
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: No, We'll pick a time that works for them. We'll

1658
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: pick a mutually agreeable time. You and three of your friends,

1659
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: three family members, whatever, We pay your airfare, you come out.

1660
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: You gotta come from America, you do. Canadians cannot do this.

1661
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: Listen, raffle and sweep steaks laws Byzantine.

1662
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: You gotta be in America, jump Montana. Never mind.

1663
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: The new driver's license deal cracks me up. If like,

1664
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: if you get a new driver's license, if you're like American,

1665
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: you get an eagle on your driver's license.

1666
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 7: So now the new driver's license will qualify for the

1667
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 7: for the proper I D for flying.

1668
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 8: Do you mean a naturalized citizen?

1669
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: I believe American.

1670
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 1: I believe they just passed the state law that if

1671
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: you're like a citizen.

1672
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: You get an eagle too.

1673
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: Oh I see, No, we already have real ID, They

1674
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: just kept postponing because of the pandemic. I've been real

1675
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: ID for a while anyhow. Now I'm getting my new

1676
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: one with an American eagle.

1677
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 2: On it, which I'm gonna.

1678
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 1: Keep out of my wallet to show people proudly just

1679
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 1: y'ah come from America. Okay, I'm getting to the rules.

1680
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 1: Why did someone scratch the rules out?

1681
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 7: Fine?

1682
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 2: Go for the rules.

1683
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 7: I scratched them.

1684
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 8: I thought it would be like a little too.

1685
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know those aren't the rules. You already went

1686
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 7: over all that good.

1687
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 2: Scratch.

1688
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 7: How do you enter, Steve? How?

1689
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 5: How is one eligible for such a giveaway?

1690
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 1: Did I say round trip? Yeah, airfare, lodging, rental car,

1691
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 1: dinner cooked here by me, one thousand dollars gift card

1692
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 1: one k Alex Zimmer I'm volunteering him, will give you

1693
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: private access to the store.

1694
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 2: The worst actor in the company.

1695
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 6: That means, you know he'll be telling you the truth.

1696
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:26,960
Speaker 5: But one of the finest dogs that is this company has.

1697
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: Probably the I haven't told him. This probably the worst

1698
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 1: actor we've ever hired.

1699
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 6: He won't try and sell you something you don't need.

1700
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 1: No, you can trust this guy because me and Randall

1701
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,040
Speaker 1: tried to get him to act.

1702
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's straight as an arrow.

1703
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: There's no concerns. Yeah, if he tells you something, it's

1704
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: the truth. You should try to give him couple.

1705
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 2: Of pointers film. I try to give him some tips.

1706
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 7: I'll try.

1707
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 3: You know, for how often you talked to me about

1708
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 3: me doing plays. I've never once been asked to act

1709
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 3: in any sort of skit or any sort of commercial

1710
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:00,879
Speaker 3: done at this company.

1711
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 7: Are you kidding me?

1712
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 2: You've done acting?

1713
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 7: I have not. I did.

1714
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 5: I did the Christmas videos, but that was a shocking. Phil,

1715
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 5: I've cast you in two plays on Radio Live.

1716
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 2: Give me two roles.

1717
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 7: I greatly appreciate it.

1718
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,360
Speaker 8: Instagram social skips, Phil.

1719
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 3: I'm working on them from Russ three times now.

1720
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're filming one tomorrow. We didn't cast filling it.

1721
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 7: We might be filming to tomorrow. I'll get make sure

1722
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 7: it fills in. On the second one.

1723
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: I got cast. Randall's cast, and Brandon got cast. She's

1724
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: missus Claus.

1725
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 2: So I got it.

1726
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,680
Speaker 1: Someone's thinking, well, they're not just gonna call me up

1727
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: and give it to me, and you're right.

1728
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 2: You gotta go online. This is grossly oversimplified. Unless simple,

1729
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 2: that's what I got. Listen, go to first Light.

1730
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you the rules because I think

1731
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: there's a way to enter, Like there's a way to

1732
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: enter free, and there's a way to boost your entries, right, but.

1733
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 5: We have to tell them how to enter.

1734
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 2: Go to first light dot com so you'll see something

1735
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: about sweepstakes. I believe.

1736
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: I believe there's a way to enter free, which you

1737
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: have to do in sweepstakes law. And then for every

1738
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:32,719
Speaker 1: hundred bucks you spend at first Light, you get five entries.

1739
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 2: So does a rub. There's a rub you can. Like

1740
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: everything in life, the affluent will be favored.

1741
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 7: I can't help it.

1742
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,599
Speaker 2: I can't help it. They tend to spend more money.

1743
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not making it up, don't you agree?

1744
01:31:55,880 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, ending on a hard truth. Well, I'm sorry you

1745
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 7: had to hear that twice.

1746
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 1: I guess maybe you clean it up, make it sound

1747
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 1: more optimistic on the first one.

1748
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, yea.

1749
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 5: A hundred bucks gets you five entries, that's pretty good.

1750
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody can afford that.

1751
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 5: Twenty bucks a ticket, plus you're spending that money on

1752
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,600
Speaker 5: something you wanted to buy anyway.

1753
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rand wanted to come to Baman he'd just fly

1754
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:22,759
Speaker 2: himself out here.

1755
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 6: Random blows ten times out every year at the Sportsman's

1756
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 6: Expo looking for tags.

1757
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, this might be one of the higher odds

1758
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 5: entries you'll get in this tag season, the strong season.

1759
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 7: We have lots of quarter zips for probably right at

1760
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 7: one hundred bucks, a little bit under one hundred bucks,

1761
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 7: maybe a little bit over one hundred bucks. Quarter zips

1762
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 7: are the thing this holiday season for men. So if

1763
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 7: you're looking for quarter zips, go to First Light.

1764
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 2: My kids told me the opposite. They've hit peak quarter zip.

1765
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 1: They told me, because people they think it's people trying

1766
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 1: to look They think it's people trying to look studious.

1767
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:05,680
Speaker 2: That's their take on it. I can see that they're thinking.

1768
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: Of like a sweater, Yeah, like a formal sweater, not

1769
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: like a not like Marino bass layer quarter zip.

1770
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 7: No, but I could see a kiln quarter zip being

1771
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 7: dressed down for a drink at the bar, or being

1772
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 7: dressed up for a job interview.

1773
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 2: Sure, okay, so that's what you gotta do.

1774
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 7: A little collar underneath that thing like.

1775
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 1: Big old dinner, big old dinner, shop and spree with

1776
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: Alex the Alex the actor as what we call him.

1777
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1778
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: Uh, first light dot com. Check it out while you're

1779
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,719
Speaker 1: there to pick up a f up old truck's calendar.

1780
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: We're getting out of the calendar business. This is your

1781
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: last chance ever to get a calendar. I swear I

1782
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 1: will never make another calendar.

1783
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 7: Will you let me want if I could.

1784
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm walking away from calendars. Why it's too fickle of

1785
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: a business. Who'd have thought the print calendar would fade out?

1786
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 2: We tried to run that way while we could. People

1787
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 2: like it or not are moving away from PreK.

1788
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 5: The only takeaway I got from last year's calendar was

1789
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 5: that we didn't make enough of them. Is that the expo.

1790
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 5: I probably people come up to me the Hunt Expo

1791
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 5: wondering if we had extra calendars there, and I took

1792
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 5: I took him off the walls of people around the

1793
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 5: office and sent them to these people because I.

1794
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: Think fed up old Shiitters was like as good as

1795
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: you could do, as.

1796
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 2: Good as you could do.

1797
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 5: It's like Rocky four.

1798
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 2: It was like.

1799
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 7: Clay's mom.

1800
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 1: Clay's mom would have two reasons to wash his mouth out.

1801
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 1: It was so if you said the name.

1802
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 2: Of that calendar, we just need to get more around

1803
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 2: old trucks. I wanted to do old Fisherman. F up

1804
01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 2: old Fisherman. I'm done. I'm out of the business.

1805
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 6: I was looking forward to be in that calendar.

1806
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 2: Out of the business.

1807
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: You mark my words if you want a calendar. And

1808
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: this is not a sales ploy, but I'll point out

1809
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: if you were to want one of our calendars now

1810
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: we're never sucker. Yeah, I'm not saying it because of salesmanship.

1811
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: Done done done, don't the business. It's a fickle business.

1812
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 1: People are moving away. Me and Brody's wagon wheel went

1813
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: business went tits up too.

1814
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 6: Yep, land speculation business that didn't work out.

1815
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 1: Check we had a little check business, print checks, our

1816
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:36,639
Speaker 1: mailbox business is slowing down.

1817
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: Oil lamps, we're.

1818
01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 1: Sitting on gallons of whale oil. Yeah, and now the

1819
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: print calendar thing's slowing down. But we're pretty optimistic about

1820
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 1: our VHS.

1821
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 5: Uh.

1822
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 2: We're investing heavily in VHS technology.

1823
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:57,679
Speaker 5: Coal furnaces.

1824
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 1: Oh, you know the farm that had the field that

1825
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: had the goose missing its bill? I noticed he heats

1826
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: a coal, big old bucket of coal. He had a

1827
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: big metal tub next to his stove full of coal.

1828
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: I feel like he must have his own coal scene.

1829
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: I won't be surprised these guy's own coal scene. That

1830
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: was cool to see.

1831
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:25,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't know where you.

1832
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 2: Said that guy was. Yeah, we drove off.

1833
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: Do you know what that guy was heating with? And

1834
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 1: they're so young they saw they didn't know what they

1835
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: were looking at. I said that big tub, like with

1836
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: the rocks.

1837
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 2: I was like, that's that dude's coal. Man, dude's with coal.

1838
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 2: That's cool right right in the living room, big bucket.

1839
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 6: I just wondered if that would work in one of

1840
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 6: those titanium um.

1841
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: Seek stoves camp stove.

1842
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of those in there.

1843
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 7: Why not?

1844
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 1: All right, I peel, you can probably turn it off

1845
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 1: anytime now, man, this is all

1846
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 5: For own amusement.