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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Happy weekend.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you with us, Mark Vandermere and John

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Speaker 2: Harris with you tonight as rookie camp is underway. We've

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Speaker 2: got a lot to get to schedule out last night,

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Speaker 2: retirements to talk about in the world of sports media,

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Speaker 2: and so much more. Johnny, Happy Friday night. How are

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Speaker 2: you happy Friday night? It's always good on a Friday

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Speaker 2: to know there's football tomorrow too. Yeah, hell a rookie

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Speaker 2: Minni camp. Gotta I mean, some people will say gotta

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Speaker 2: work tomorrow. I heard Ernie Johnson say this. He was

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Speaker 2: actually talking at University Alabama. He was like, there's a

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Speaker 2: half two jobs and there's get to jobs.

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Speaker 3: We have a get to We get to go watch

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Speaker 3: football tomorrow as part of our jobs.

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Speaker 2: Although anchoring that desk with Sir Charles and Kenny and

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Speaker 2: Shack is sometimes have to yeah, sometimes difficult, especially this week.

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Speaker 3: This past week was kind of interesting. Yeah, to say

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Speaker 3: the least, But yeah, we get to go watch football.

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Speaker 3: We watched it yesterday or today for a little bit.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to do it tomorrow too.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's start here.

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Speaker 2: People want to hear about rookie camp, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to take you inside the building. Johnny and I are

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Speaker 2: walking out to practice today and we're just a few

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Speaker 2: yards behind one C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, and now the team during practices in the spring,

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Speaker 2: and I would assume training camp as well, although maybe

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Speaker 2: training camp has always been there.

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Speaker 1: But they have names on the backs of the jersey.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they never had that during OTAs, and certainly not

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Speaker 2: rookie camp.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they had it on OTAs Marxus. I've

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Speaker 3: been around here in twenty fourteen. I have not seen

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Speaker 3: a name anywhere in a jersey.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe they had it any early days, but I

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Speaker 2: don't remember. But in any case, just to see CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud walking out to practice, I have to tell you

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Speaker 2: there was an electricity in the air just doing that

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Speaker 2: for what we do.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't like I.

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Speaker 2: Was starstruck or anything, but I just felt this juice.

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, let's go, let's get ready.

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Speaker 2: Can we play next Saturday? Can we just kick the

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Speaker 2: ball next Saturday? They only need a week to get ready, right,

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Speaker 2: that's plenty of time. Let's play football. But it was

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Speaker 2: awesome to see him out of the field, tossing the

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Speaker 2: ball around, doing some walk through stuff with his linemen

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Speaker 2: and his running backs, rookie camp running backs, because there's

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Speaker 2: no Damian Pierce here right now. This is the rookie

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Speaker 2: camp guys. But what was your reaction when you saw

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Speaker 2: CJ walking out there?

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Speaker 3: It was kind of the same thing you know we've seen. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we've been you've been at the building from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: I got in here in twenty fourteen. Like we've walked

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Speaker 3: behind around with JJ Watt, DeAndre Hopkins, you know, Sean Watson, Like,

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Speaker 3: we've seen those guys. But I think you know, because

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Speaker 3: it's no part because of the way last few years

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Speaker 3: have gone. There's that surreal nature of seeing CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's kind of this surreal nature of seeing

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Speaker 3: like okay, and for him, you know, you and I

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Speaker 3: but we're like, there is that's the guy that's gonna

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Speaker 3: many ever years the future this franchise, Like that's the future,

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Speaker 3: and this is him walking to his first practice. It

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Speaker 3: And again it was a it was a get to

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Speaker 3: we have that opportunity. It was kind of cool. And

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Speaker 3: then you watch him throw the football on the field

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Speaker 3: for just a little b He's just thrown with a coach.

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Speaker 3: And I know there have been tons of videos, I mean,

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Speaker 3: the media out there today, Holy smokes.

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Speaker 2: I always asked this, because I have been around forever.

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Speaker 2: Is this the most I've seen it a rookie camp.

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Speaker 2: Let's just put it this way. I can't remember more.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember seeing more than this. And I'm hesitant

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Speaker 1: Felt like the most.

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Speaker 3: It really did.

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Speaker 2: There were a lot of TV cameras out here, a

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Speaker 3: They got They just raced over when he went to

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Speaker 3: went over to field one just as they were doing

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Speaker 3: some special teams work. He went over to the other field,

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Speaker 3: and all the cameras just like I heard of Buffalo

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Speaker 3: is just like cep yep, just flying by you just

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Speaker 3: to get a piece. And on the news tonight, what

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Speaker 1: C J. Strum.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be CJ. Strout. He's probably in the A

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Speaker 3: block of the sports news. He was probably the number

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Speaker 3: one thing people are talking about tonight.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when all the news shows start. I

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Speaker 1: was on one this morning, by the way, the Fox

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Speaker 1: twenty six. I don't know when they start, but I

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Speaker 1: think four or five in the afternoon. They have a big,

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Speaker 1: huge nudes block morning and night these stations, these network affiliates,

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you've already seen some of that if

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Speaker 1: you watch that stuff, but if not, we're gonna give

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Speaker 1: you the audio version. You know, he's gonna love the

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Speaker 1: way we began this segment.

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Speaker 2: The coach is not guys, all the rookies. Demiko is

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Speaker 2: up there today. Here's the summary of what Dimiko said,

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Speaker 2: which was great. He's such a good talker and there's

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Speaker 2: tremendous charisma when he stands up at the podium. But

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Speaker 2: basically it was they're all rookies, it's a team. We're

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Speaker 2: just trying to learn our way around the building, get

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Speaker 2: in and out of the huddle cleanly, learn what they

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Speaker 2: can learn, get through this healthy, and take it from there.

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Speaker 1: And it's true.

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Speaker 2: But here we are gushing about just seeing throughout in

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Speaker 3: Which is kind of odd because you and I don't

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Speaker 3: really do that a.

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Speaker 2: Lot, No, but you brought it up. How many picks

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Speaker 2: this high have we seen? We saw us staying last year? Cool,

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Speaker 2: all right, clowney in fourteen. You know, Watson quarterbacks always

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Speaker 2: take out a different life and receivers as well. When

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Speaker 2: Hopkins had his rookie camp, there was electricity around that

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Speaker 2: and he demonstrated. We were out there for the whole

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Speaker 3: Some catches and he was doing.

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Speaker 2: You could see it right away out there. You know,

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Speaker 2: an offensive player, just even on air, there's just something

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Speaker 2: a defensive player. Although Demiko was talking about not really

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Speaker 2: remembering his rookie camp, well, he remembers the spring practices

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Speaker 2: and he didn't quite say it like this, but it

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Speaker 2: all runs together, the spring practice. This is into training camp,

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Speaker 2: summer practices. But I remember's rookie camp, and I remember

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Speaker 2: just noticing how on top of it all he seemed

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Speaker 1: So there's that. Now.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how things progress from here, but it was

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Speaker 2: very cool to see him and Johnny I want to

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Speaker 2: get into him a little bit, of course, because I

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Speaker 2: want to get into this quarterback position group if they

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Speaker 2: and look, they don't want to just anoint CJ as

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Speaker 2: the guy, but he's a number two pick in the draft.

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Speaker 2: We all know where it's going eventually, and we just

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Speaker 2: want to know how soon.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to know right now, how soon? Please? But

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Speaker 1: we get it.

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Speaker 2: They want to highlight the players, the team, the young players, yes,

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Speaker 2: but the players the team. And so we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the quarterback position group and what the plans might be

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Speaker 2: at large. But let's talk about some of these rookies

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Speaker 2: that we saw today, just briefly and on the hoof,

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Speaker 2: as you like to say, because we didn't see a

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Speaker 2: ton of action today. It was a very quick practice actually,

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Speaker 2: But Tank Dell a lot of people talking about him.

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Speaker 2: I know he's not the second pick for the Texans

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Speaker 2: in this draft, but let's talk about ten for a moment,

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Speaker 2: the five to ten wide receiver from you age one

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Speaker 1: What do you make of him?

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Speaker 2: To see him out here in a uniform on a

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Speaker 3: With the thing about it is for what we saw them.

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Speaker 3: Do you look out there and go because how many

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Speaker 3: would go, hey, why is that manager running drills? Because

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Speaker 3: he really is he's tiny. I mean he's tiny. But

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Speaker 3: then you watch him move, you watch him run. And

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Speaker 3: we have posted on our Twitter account at Houston Texans

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Speaker 3: the CJ thrown will pass out to tank. Our guys

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Speaker 3: it's just a little flat route, but you just think, Okay,

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Speaker 3: how many times can that happen? You start getting excited

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Speaker 3: about that, And I think that's the thing mark this,

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Speaker 3: like bringing that juice back and obviously you know, no

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Speaker 3: pun intended. We are bringing juice scrugs in, but I

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Speaker 3: mean the energy, the juice in the building. I think

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Speaker 3: when Tank Dell is on the field, everybody sits up

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Speaker 3: a little straighter, like, oh boy, what could happen? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Or he's back returning punts and you see him and

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Speaker 3: that at the Senior Bowl. I talked about his routes

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Speaker 3: and all that, but there was a moment watching him

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Speaker 3: me think about it. At the Senior Bowl, they did

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Speaker 3: And so they punted him the ball and he had

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Speaker 3: had to back up and catch the ball. But Mark,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, when he turned a corner with that

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Speaker 3: was it was startling, like whoa. And it just struck

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Speaker 3: me as everybody at the Senior Bowl down on the

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Speaker 3: bit more like, Okay, do that again. I want to

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Speaker 3: see that again because it's so special when he gets

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Speaker 3: the ball in his hands. And I think that's what's

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Speaker 3: gonna be like, yo, okay, here comes, what's he gonna do?

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Speaker 3: And people are gonna get excited about that. And I

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Speaker 3: think that's the kind of thing that builds and builds

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Speaker 3: and builds that he's on the field. You know he's

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Speaker 3: You see him standing up next to some of these guys,

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Speaker 3: He's a a little bit bigger than I thought when

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he does, because he and Tank Dell were

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Speaker 2: Yes, there you go. The coaches loved hearing that. The

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Speaker 2: getting by you? Yes, that's the situation. And maybe it's

434
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Speaker 2: that simple, Johnny, But what about Patterson and Scruggs.

435
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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I don't remember seeing Patterson out

436
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Speaker 3: there today. I don't know why. I mean, I was

437
00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,360
Speaker 3: looking at all the linemen. We didn't have much time.

438
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,119
Speaker 3: We didn't have much time out there to see them,

439
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Speaker 3: and then they went to another side of the field,

440
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Speaker 3: so he didn't see him too often. But I did

441
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Speaker 3: see Juice, and I remember going, WHOA, he's just put

442
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Speaker 3: together the way that you'd like for a center or

443
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Speaker 3: interior lineman to be. It was interesting listening to both

444
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Speaker 3: Tamiko and Nick talk about Juice what he had been through.

445
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 3: Hear and Juice tell his story about how you know,

446
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 3: he had the car accident at Penn State, but it

447
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 3: really gained perspective. It allowed him to be a better

448
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Speaker 3: football player. He had a great interview with Deep talking

449
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Speaker 3: about that. I think he's coming here with a great,

450
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Speaker 3: great mindset. And you know, going back and watching a

451
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Speaker 3: little bit more of Juice, you realize, Okay, I get

452
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Speaker 3: exactly why why they did this upper body strength and

453
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Speaker 3: you could see it too, like he's I mean, you

454
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Speaker 3: remember some of the lineman I remember, I'm Dwayne coming

455
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Speaker 3: in here for time. It was like, yo, he is

456
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,680
Speaker 3: yoked and Juice isn't quite that big, but you can

457
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Speaker 3: tell that he's not fat. He is a big offensive lineman,

458
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Speaker 3: especially upstairs. Or he's very thick. And I'll be curious

459
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Speaker 3: to see how well he moves, especially in his own game,

460
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Speaker 3: because at Penn State I thought he I thought he

461
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Speaker 3: moved and had lateral agility for days. There are some

462
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Speaker 3: people trying to pigeonhole him in because he's strong into

463
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Speaker 3: being just a kind of a you know, gap scheme

464
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Speaker 3: guy where he's just down blocking or double team in

465
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Speaker 3: and can get some movement. But I think he can

466
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Speaker 3: be pretty good in his own game too, So I'm

467
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Speaker 3: curious to see what and for offensive linemen, you want

468
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Speaker 3: to see what it looks like in pads. But just

469
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Speaker 3: watching lineman move you can tell, Okay, yeah, that that

470
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Speaker 3: guy's got some movement skills. I think this is gonna

471
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Speaker 3: be okay. And then you match it up with Okay,

472
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Speaker 3: is he willing to pop pads? And if he is,

473
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Speaker 3: you put those two together and you're like, that's the

474
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Speaker 3: right guy. You know, you got the right guy, and

475
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Speaker 3: hopefully with both of them, hopefully both of them end

476
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Speaker 3: up being players down the road. But it got to

477
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Speaker 3: get one of those guys to be an impact player

478
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Speaker 3: sooner in his career than later.

479
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Speaker 1: Okay, so college free agents, I want to go here

480
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Speaker 1: with Xavian. Would it be Xavian yes, Xavian.

481
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Speaker 2: Vala Yeah, yeah, because he spells an x a z

482
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Speaker 2: correct Avian Xavian.

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Speaker 1: So he's from Arizona State.

484
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Speaker 2: He was at Wyoming before four years at Wyoming and

485
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Speaker 2: then goes to ASU with the extra year of eligibility.

486
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Speaker 2: Never averaged under five yards per carry, carried the ball

487
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Speaker 2: a lot in college, Okay, carried for four four hundred

488
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Speaker 2: and sixty six yards.

489
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of yards. And carried in college.

490
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Speaker 2: Yes, there's In fact, I got to see where he

491
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Speaker 2: stacks up on some of the all time lists out

492
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Speaker 2: West or anywhere.

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Speaker 1: This is a lot of yards.

494
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Speaker 2: And from scrimmage, he caught thirty seven balls last year,

495
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Speaker 2: twenty seven the year before.

496
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Speaker 1: That's nice as well. He might factor in.

497
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Speaker 2: Dimiko Ryans was saying on that Chris Long podcast how

498
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Speaker 2: he wants to run the ball by committee. Well, Valada

499
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Speaker 2: might love to be part of that committee. So we'll

500
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Speaker 2: see if he can make it. But special teams is

501
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Speaker 2: gonna come into play for him because if he makes

502
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Speaker 2: the team, I got a feeling dar A doesn't. I

503
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Speaker 2: don't know if there's run for both. I'd love to

504
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Speaker 2: see everybody make the team.

505
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Speaker 1: We'll see. Maybe that's a little competition worth watching.

506
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they signed Devin Singletary from the Buffalo Bills,

507
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of the factor in here. But

508
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Speaker 2: right now we're just looking at Valade as a prospect.

509
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Speaker 3: It's funny because I remember from Wyoming. That's where I

510
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Speaker 3: remember watching him and thinking, Wow, this guy can scoot.

511
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Speaker 3: I got a note from three years ago. They were

512
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Speaker 3: playing in one of the opening games, and I remember

513
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Speaker 3: seeing him then like, man, this guy can move. And

514
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Speaker 3: Wyoming had a running back named Titus Swen and Swin

515
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Speaker 3: ended up being kind of the guy that took over.

516
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Speaker 3: So Valade was like ohnest, see my game could do

517
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Speaker 3: at a higher level, and so he ended up going

518
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Speaker 3: to Arizona State. Watch him at East West, East West.

519
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: The game itself like man, he can scoot, he can move.

520
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Speaker 3: And like you said, when you're on a draft, the

521
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Speaker 3: free agent Aaron found this out. I mean there have

522
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Speaker 3: been underdrafted you know, running backs. The running part is

523
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: gonna be your last thing. That's gonna be the last

524
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 3: part of this. It is pass protection. It is you

525
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: better know what to do. You better know to block

526
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Speaker 3: special teams. What can you do on special teams? And

527
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Speaker 3: then once you have all that covered, the last part

528
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: is all right, we'll hand it to the football and

529
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Speaker 3: see what you can do. But you better have all

530
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Speaker 3: those other things taken care of. And you know, I think,

531
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Speaker 3: and especially in this particular offense or a version of

532
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Speaker 3: this offense, the name that comes to mind all the

533
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Speaker 3: time is Treil Davis. And Trail Davis got to the Broncos.

534
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Speaker 3: He had been miserable in the first week or so

535
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Speaker 3: of practice. He had been miserable when they went to

536
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Speaker 3: Tokyo to practice against the forty nine ers. Then he

537
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Speaker 3: ran down on kickoff and was almost ready to give

538
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Speaker 3: up the sport. He ran down on kickoff and he

539
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 3: blasted the returner, I mean blasted him and Mark that

540
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Speaker 3: started everything. He then got the ball in the fourth quarter,

541
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Speaker 3: he got like four or five carries and it was

542
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Speaker 3: like whoa, this guy's got something. And then he takes off.

543
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Speaker 3: He ends up becoming a Hall of Famer. So not

544
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Speaker 3: to say that Valade's going to the Hall of Fame

545
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 3: or anything like that, but the last thing he has

546
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Speaker 3: to worry about is running the ball. Everything else has

547
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: got to take step to the forefront, know what to do,

548
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: know to block your pass protection better beyond point and

549
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Speaker 3: then special teams is going to be where you earn carries.

550
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Speaker 3: That's where you're going to earn your carries. Is if

551
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Speaker 3: you do well on special teams and you know what

552
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Speaker 3: to do, then they'll give you the rock and you

553
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Speaker 3: can show what you can do from that standpoint.

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Speaker 1: All right, So validate, I want to go back to him.

555
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Speaker 2: As far as the career rushing list goes of guys

556
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Speaker 2: who have played in the last decade because times have changed.

557
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Speaker 1: Don't stay in school as long.

558
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Speaker 2: Yep, he's a top ten rusher really of college football

559
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Speaker 2: running backs who have played in the last decade, he's

560
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Speaker 2: top ten. I thought he might be higher on the

561
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Speaker 2: all time list, but that's not going to happen because

562
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 2: no guys used to play so much. And you know,

563
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: running the ball used to be the way people move

564
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Speaker 2: the football. You know, you look at your Charles White's

565
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Speaker 2: of the world and Ricky Williams and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, get over six thousand yards.

567
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Speaker 2: But Taylor, Jonathan Taylor's number one of guys who have

568
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Speaker 2: played in the last decade, and he played three years.

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Speaker 3: He played three years. I cannot believe that we have

570
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Speaker 3: to face that guy with Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 1: I know, but let's just see what did you.

572
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Speaker 3: See the COLT schedule release video? Wait?

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Speaker 1: Which is because I get them all blended. I mean,

574
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Speaker 1: I know the Titans one.

575
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Speaker 3: It's Buck Engrove eat the schedule. So they had a

576
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Speaker 3: chef that made a like a team specific meal for

577
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Speaker 3: each team they were gonna play, and they had to

578
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: guess it. They had to guess what team they were playing.

579
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Speaker 3: And that at the very end, they're taking the plates off,

580
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Speaker 3: and then they went to where somebody had his back

581
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Speaker 3: to the dishwasher and they go, hey Pierce, Alec Pierce,

582
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Speaker 3: who's a rookie last year, all right, your shift is over.

583
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: New guy's coming in. He's like, oh, thank god. He

584
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 3: throws this. He throws his his apron down, and then

585
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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson walks in. He kind of looks around like

586
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Speaker 3: what's up, and he's got this confused look on his face,

587
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Speaker 3: and then he starts cleaning the dishes that they ate

588
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: off of. It was really well done. I was like

589
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 3: that that was pretty good, not bad. Anthy Richardson, Johnthan Taylor,

590
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Speaker 3: oh Man, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, calm down. That's the home opener, by the way.

592
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Speaker 2: Week two tickets available at Ticketmaster. Just to let you know, folks, Okay,

593
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Speaker 2: coming up a little bit more on what we saw

594
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Speaker 2: today at Rookie Mini Caamp. Also position group break down

595
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Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, which will probably do once a week, but

596
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Speaker 2: it's an initial sort of look. Maybe now that Stroud

597
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Speaker 2: is here and practicing, we want to take a closer

598
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Speaker 2: look at that. And legendary local sports personality media retires,

599
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Speaker 2: we'll get to that as well.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about rookie Minni caamp CJ Stroud. Fun

608
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Speaker 2: to see him and the rest of the guys today, Johnny,

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Speaker 2: any other undrafted free agents we need to get to

610
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Speaker 2: that deserves some attention here. They all deserve attention. We

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Speaker 2: hope they're all awesome. But any other thoughts on the

612
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: guys you have on this list.

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Speaker 3: Jared Wayne from Pitt was and having watched Kenny Pickett

614
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: last year and then watching the pit offense this year

615
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: because Pitt had a few players. I love their running

616
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: back Israel Bonaconda. Carter Warren was tackling me. That's a player.

617
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Speaker 3: So it was fun watching Pitt got Jesse Jared Wayne

618
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: a little bit receiver, big physical guy, big physical guy,

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Speaker 3: go up and get it. I was. I was pleased

620
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Speaker 3: to see him in the undrafted uh free agent group.

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Speaker 3: Were talked about Valade. Ali Gave was a guy that

622
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Speaker 3: I saw at the Senior Bowl, and when you see him,

623
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: you're like, wow. I mean he's put together with probably

624
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: zero percent body fat, two sixty five six five six

625
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: six physical, he's just he's he's kind of stiff. But man,

626
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 3: when you see him, you're blown away. At the Senior Bowl,

627
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: he just struggled. He's just not real twitchy. It'd almost

628
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: be better if Gay could put on fifteen pounds and

629
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: get to two eighty and move inside that that would

630
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: probably be something that you know, again, I don't know

631
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 3: how people could put on on pounds, but I do.

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00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: Jillian Zero is an interesting guy, athletic, came from Germany

633
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 3: and played at Auburn, and it's kind of like Bernard

634
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: Ryman too, from the Colts who played at Central Michigan.

635
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: When you see these guys that haven't grown up really

636
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: playing the game, there's a sniff, there's a stiffness to them.

637
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: They don't really have They have athleticism, but there's a difference.

638
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: And you know this because you've seen this. A guy

639
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: could be athletic, but then you watch him play a

640
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: particular position, you get stiff doing it. I felt like

641
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: watching him at Auburn, there was a little bit of that,

642
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: but I'm like, man, this guy's got athletic skills for days.

643
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: So at that point, if you can get a guy

644
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Speaker 3: like that, especially a lineman, Liman's not gonna get a

645
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: lot of publicity during training camp, right, So that's the

646
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: kind of guy that you can probably hied on practice

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Speaker 3: squad and give him some more time, teach him the

648
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Speaker 3: way you want him to do things, and see what

649
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 3: he can become down the road. He's really intriguing to

650
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: me just because I think he is a ball of

651
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: multiple clay that you could.

652
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: Have some fun with, spend a year in the program,

653
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: absolutely tryout guys. They had four of them out there today,

654
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: including a corner from Notre Dame.

655
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Tariq Bracy. Anybody worth mentioning.

656
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, Kyle RELs guy UAB.

657
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw him walking out.

658
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it feels like he was at UAB for

659
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: a long time. I feel like he was there forever.

660
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 3: Now he's twenty five, twenty five, but he's the one

661
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: that that I would say Tweek Bracy obviously had seen

662
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: a Notre Dame, but it was only four of them,

663
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: and the thing with a tryout player. We've seen it

664
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: happen before. We've seen tryout players bump undrafted signed free

665
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: agents before. That's happened because the undrafted player or the

666
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: tryout player comes in, he presses, and you're like, man,

667
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: we gotta have that guy around, and then the numbers

668
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: end up moving a guy out of a spot. So

669
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Speaker 3: from the standpoint, From that standpoint, it puts a pretty

670
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: tough onus on those guys. But look, you there's some

671
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: guys that have taken tryouts. They took a tryout last week,

672
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: and they take a try out this week. I saw

673
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: a number of guys that were doing that just so

674
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: they could get more eyeballs on what they could learn

675
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 3: what they are physically. So let me interested to see

676
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: if any of these four bump any of the guys

677
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: that they signed. But they at least got the opportunity

678
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: over the weekend to show what they could do.

679
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Speaker 2: I mean an NFL building, all right, quarterback position group,

680
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 2: we know who we have because EJ. Perry was released

681
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: this week the team announced, So you know you have CJ. Stroud,

682
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: you know you have case Keenum, and you have Davis Mills.

683
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: And I know there was speculation John McClain speculating earlier

684
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: on maybe a couple of months ago, that they might

685
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: trade Mills or cut him or whatever.

686
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: I think he said trade him.

687
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what you get for Mills in a trade,

688
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: but I don't think you trade Davis Mills.

689
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: We'll see.

690
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: Maybe they're planning on doing it as we speak. I

691
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: don't know, but Davis Mills. Look at this league, Look

692
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: at the way things play out at the quarterback position.

693
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: Look at the San Francisco forty nine ers who Demico

694
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: just came from, and this a lot of the staff.

695
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: I just look at it and say, you need depth.

696
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: He's played a lot of football. He still has potential.

697
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of starts under his belt. If

698
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: you had to go to him, you'd go to him, right.

699
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: I mean, look at what's out there for you as insurance.

700
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: And Keenum obviously has started a ton of games and

701
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: won a lot of big games and that kind of thing.

702
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: He's been in a lot of big games, so I

703
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: love having him on this roster. I don't know how

704
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: they're going to do the backup thing. If Stroud ends

705
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: up being the starter, I would imagine.

706
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: It would be Keenum.

707
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: But you never know what they're thinking internally, and maybe

708
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: we get out there for OTAs and Keenum's running with

709
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: the ones and they're gonna let Stroud work his way

710
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: up or have to win it, or however that all

711
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: works out. We'll find out soon, enow, folks. But they

712
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: are where they are right now.

713
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: It's May. They're sorting it all out.

714
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're exactly right. I feel your people ask me

715
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: this about the draft all the time. Do you like

716
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: this guy? Do you like this guy? And I'm like, oh,

717
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: I hate him in the first round, but I like

718
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: him in round five. Yeah, I love him in round

719
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: five or six. A value thing, right, It's it's a

720
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: it's a value thing. And and I kind of I

721
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: look at Davis and I think, you know, last year

722
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: as a starter, and look, I'm like, I say, I

723
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: hate him, but there are some struggles. This offense really struggled,

724
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: you know, last year. But I think Davis is the

725
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: kind of guy you do not want to I want

726
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: to use the word to get rid of move on

727
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: from throughout the baby with the bathwater, right, I mean,

728
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of football that he still

729
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: has left to play. And who knows when I don't know.

730
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: Maybe the maybe the light goes on with this offense.

731
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 3: Maybe it's hearing it in a different way. Maybe it's

732
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: more comfortability with this. Maybe just the lack of expectations

733
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 3: will help him relax and just sling it like we

734
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: know he can sling it. So maybe that's all. That's

735
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 3: all part of it. But to me, it's all kind

736
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: of insurance. It's all insurance because you'd like to think

737
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: building this thing the way that we talked about, CJ

738
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: is going to be the guy at some point. It's

739
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: just a matter of when. But if Cason Davis are playing,

740
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: and let's say Case and Davis are the two, however

741
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 3: they do it, you know early on when they do

742
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: OTAs and all that kind of stuff. If they're playing well,

743
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it's going to force CJ to have to

744
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: play even at a higher clip. That's great. They're competing

745
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: with one another and hopefully pushing each other to get

746
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: each other to get better. But we know it's going

747
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: to turn over to seven at some point. We know

748
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: that it's a matter of when, and when it does,

749
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: then those two become a resource for CJ. And they've

750
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: seen some things, both of them have. But I certainly

751
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: do not want to move Davis Mills at all, because

752
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: you may need a game where it's got to be

753
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: Davis for maybe it can't be case, or maybe they

754
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: pick Davis and he's number two. I don't know how

755
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 3: all that goes together, but there's gonna be a time

756
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: where you're gonna have to go to a second quarterback

757
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: this year. I mean, hopefully you're lucky. You're lucky if

758
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: it's one quarterback.

759
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Speaker 1: For the whole. Yeah, you're right, You're right.

760
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: It's a lot to expect for somebody to be available

761
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: for all seventeen games, especially if it turns out to

762
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Speaker 2: be a rookie starter or CJ.

763
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Speaker 3: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: One thing about Stroud that I noticed today that this

765
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: is just my vander observation, and I've seen this Kobiakian

766
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: system before.

767
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: And I know it's got to be a little different.

768
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: They've tweaked whatever.

769
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: But right away they're running on air this bootleg thing,

770
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, Okay, there it is. That's that's bread

771
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: and butter offense. This is just a part of it.

772
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: But just watching him move around the practice field quick,

773
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: he's quick, He's light at his feet and he's quick

774
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: he's strong, but he's quick and you can just see

775
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: it the way he moves his body, right, yep. And

776
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: I want to see a whole lot more than I

777
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: saw today. But that was nice to see. And I thought, Okay,

778
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: you know, he's clearly an elite athlete, and we all

779
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: know he's a very accomplished passer so far in his

780
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: career where he's been, and we want to see it

781
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 2: happen at this level.

782
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: He is something you just said, maybe think because you

783
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: were talking about there's more to be seen. The first

784
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 3: thing I did when you said that was think about

785
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: training camp. Can you imagine what a mob scene? Training

786
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: camp is going to be a mob scene. It's gonna

787
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: get fantastic.

788
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Speaker 2: The training camp tickets, Johnny, they were hot last year

789
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: and especially now the way they do training.

790
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: Camp and it's covered in the stands.

791
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's big, that's huge.

792
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: I mean, people have been here since the beginning. You

793
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: don't even have to have been here since the beginning.

794
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: People who are here.

795
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: When those those benches all right, the bleachers, it was

796
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: like sitting in an oven, right, and they would do

797
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: it baked, they would do it. They would pack them

798
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: in early. Now everything's covered over there and people want

799
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: to be a part of it. They wanted to do

800
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 2: last year, can you And look, I know it didn't

801
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: work out with Cully and Lovey. I love the way

802
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: Cully would talk to the fans before practice, and Lovey

803
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: did it every once in a while.

804
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: But can you imagine this year? The first day camp

805
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: is going to be a tough ticket.

806
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: The first day of training camp is going to be

807
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: a madhouse. Is But I mean, you're gonna have fomo

808
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: if you're not there, I mean.

809
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: It's I'll be there.

810
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: It's gonna be there. It's gonna be a media circus.

811
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 3: Texans Radio will be there, Yes we will, all right.

812
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: So if that Patriot game is early, training camp begins a.

813
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: Little early, which is nice. Yes, we're gonna have some fun.

814
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna have some fun covering this thing. We're going

815
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: to do Texans Radio from camp. You know, we will

816
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: first ten business days eight to ten am live. We'll

817
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: of tons of coverage on the website, et cetera, and

818
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: on the Texans app, all our social media platforms coming up.

819
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: Mark Berman retired. Where does he stack up in the

820
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 2: Houston media sports landscape? Historically? Johnny, I want your thoughts

821
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: on this. He is an all time great at the

822
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: very least. Let's discuss that and you think about some

823
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 2: of your favorites as you're tuning in. It's Texans Radio,

824
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 2: all right. Final segment, we go beyond the blue lot

825
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 2: a bit because around here for a long time, since

826
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: the beginning of franchise history, Mark Berman has been covering

827
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: the team for Fox twenty six and Mark Burman's been

828
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: around for a long time.

829
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: Obviously, this is a what.

830
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: Thirty seven year career at Fox, I believe in forty

831
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: three in the city for Mark Berman. I believe That's

832
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: what his tweet said announcing his retirement coming up in June.

833
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: It's funny because I was listening to in the Loop

834
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 2: when the story broke and Figgy said, is this going

835
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: to be a John McClain retirement where he's still working?

836
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: John McClain retired, And he didn't retire. He actually works

837
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: more now probably than ever. Yes, because he traveled to

838
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 2: see the Astros and he goes to all these other

839
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: events because of the Gallery Sports dot Com thing, and

840
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: he might be doing more than ever anyway, But Berman

841
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: announced no more Fox twenty six. I would presume that's it.

842
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: He's so hard working. He's the greatest story breaker in

843
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: the history of the city. I knew about Mark Berman

844
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 2: before I lived in Houston real. He's that pronounced that

845
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 2: prolific as a story breaker because he broke a story.

846
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 2: Butch Davis interviewed for the Texans job about a year

847
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: before I got here. Yea, and Butch was interviewing for

848
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: NFL jobs because after the two thousand hurricane season, they

849
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: beat the Gators in the Sugar Bowl and then he

850
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: interviewed shortly after then he was gone to Cleveland. That

851
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: was it, and Berman broke the story is a kriv

852
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: You always saw that and the wire copy if you

853
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: will kids, wire copy was never mind. But you always

854
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: saw that his call letters of his station because he

855
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: was breaking those stories.

856
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: He worked so hard it's unbelievable. I I tweeted out,

857
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: he's he's the best I've ever been around and the

858
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: hardest working media member I think I've ever seen. And

859
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: it really came to you see him so often and

860
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: I knew all that, But I got invited to go

861
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: to uh basketball game that not twenty twenty three season,

862
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two season. It was one of the last

863
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: games at home against SMU. It was here the end

864
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: of the year, and so I was there and I

865
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 3: was there just in a you know, I was with

866
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: my friend Don and he brought me there. And so

867
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: I look up at some point and you know, kind

868
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: of where the media is, and there's really nobody there.

869
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 3: And then I see one head and it's Berman. Yep,

870
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: he's covering the Cougar basketball game on that Sunday. And

871
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm blown away. And I saw him and

872
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: he made his way over, and of course Mark knows everybody.

873
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: Everybody knows Mark, and so he's talking to us and

874
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 3: I just said, I said, Mark, do you never take

875
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: a day off? And He's like, why would I do that?

876
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

877
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he took so much pride in his work,

878
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: but he was so good at it. And you know

879
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: that this is the other thing too. I think, you know,

880
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 3: I think about you know, you I think about a

881
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: lot of you know, play by play announcers. I think

882
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: about all those sec guys that endear themselves to a

883
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: particular area because of how much they care about the

884
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: organization they cover about the people that cheer for that organization.

885
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: Mark knew what his his you know, job was, but

886
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: you could tell that he cared about every Houston team.

887
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: Every Houston team mattered to him, and that mattered to

888
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: the people of this of this city. Uh. And it

889
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: just he was you know last year probably you know,

890
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: when the Astros are making their run, he's got to

891
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: go follow the Astros. So he was gone from here

892
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: for like three four five weeks. He was killing him,

893
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: was killing us. He was killing me. Not to say

894
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: he just he meant that much to me, to all

895
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: of us. It's it's a tough day. I mean, it's

896
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: been what over the last couple of years where John

897
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: McClain and and Mark Berman have have well, John, John's

898
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: here probably more he's ever been.

899
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: Seemingly he's not here every day on the beat anymore,

900
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: but his presence has always felt and he's on the air.

901
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: All the time.

902
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: And that's and those two that those two carried such

903
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: a presence in press conferences and just being around there

904
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: was such a gravitas towards both of them, and every

905
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: single coach that I've seen come through these this building

906
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: understands that and knows that and gets that and would

907
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: treat them with that same respect. So grats Mark, I

908
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: mean that's, uh, what a run.

909
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: I got to tell you this when I was doing

910
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: radio at Sports Radio six ten Morning Drive, right, and

911
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: had to prepare for a show every day, and obviously

912
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: use the web, the web, you use whatever materially you

913
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: can find, right, and I'm reading all the local stuff.

914
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: And I always recorded his sportscast at night on Fox

915
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: twenty six because he always had a little something extra.

916
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 2: He had an extra interview, he had an extra nugget

917
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: or two at the.

918
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: Very least, something you would learn.

919
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: And that always helped me get to know the city

920
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: a little bit better when I was starting out, especially

921
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: after I got here.

922
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Speaker 1: O two.

923
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 2: But there's a thing, a thing, an hour long special

924
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 2: on NFL Network called Houston ninety three.

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00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah?

926
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: Was that a football life?

927
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? A football life? Who was in that family of Houston?

928
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: Google it, find it, watch it because you'll see Berman

929
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: there and McLean and it's the Oilers in nineteen ninety three,

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00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: which isn't that long ago. I know it is to

931
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: some of you kids thirty years ago. I know Berman

932
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: was around way before that. But you see Berman there,

933
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: and it is mind blowing that Houston ninety three was

934
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Speaker 2: nine years before the start of Texans history.

935
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I know Texans history actually started.

936
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: Earlier in ninety nine when they were ordered the franchise,

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00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: but you can might drift absolutely.

938
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Speaker 3: Here's the other thing too. Yeah, as we moved into

939
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: a digital age of Twitter and social media, et cetera,

940
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: how often did we see something news break, whether it

941
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: was about the Texans or anywhere else, and go, has

942
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: Berman got it yet?

943
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? That's well, that's who you wanted.

944
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: To be for. That was the confirmation, McLean.

945
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: But Berman breaks all sports in all news and that's

946
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: how it is, right all right.

947
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: Typically he was the first one to do it, but

948
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: then there were times you'd see it and you go, well,

949
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: has Berman confirmed it yet, because that's when I'll believe it.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty that's pretty strong. He doesn't mess around, all right.

951
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Speaker 2: Congratulations Mark, and thank you for listen listening to the

952
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: show tonight. It'll be up in podcast form soon enough.

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Speaker 2: Have a great night everyone, Go Texans.