1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio News, The. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: Stock Movers Report, your roundup of companies making moves in 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg Data. 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 3: Take a look at some of the stocks on the 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 3: move today. I'm Paul Swing alongside Scarlett Foo and we're 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: drawn by Bloomergs Billy Lipschaltz. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 4: Billy. What are you looking at today? 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, diving a bit deeper on EchoStar ticker SATs stock 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 5: right now only up about one percent, had jumped more 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 5: than five percent. But this is coming after Bloomberg News 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 5: report that the company is in talks to sell Spectrum 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 5: some of its wireless spectrum to Verizon Communications. So this 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 5: comes after deals with AT and T and SpaceX for 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: some of those licenses. Bloomberg reporting that it probably wouldn't 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 5: be the case for this Verizon deal to carry the 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 5: value of some of those deals, you know, north of 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 5: billions of dollars. But we are certainly seeing a rally 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 5: this morning in shares of Echo Star. This is a company, guys, 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 5: that has been trying to work its way out and 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 5: stave off bankruptcy and dealing with some of the pushback 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 5: from US regulators so kind of reworking its business, reworking 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 5: its opportunities in terms of turning those contracts in some 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 5: of that spectrum into actual cash in their pockets. Stock 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 5: year to date up more than two hundred and twenty 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 5: five percent, so out performing uh, those ten. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: Waiting decade for this performance. 27 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 3: Literally we've been sitting there for twelve years. Charlie Ergan. 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: Investors like I have always been a Charlie Urgan backer. 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: You both the spectrum like thirteen fourteen years ago, and 30 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: either you're going to build its wireless network with this 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: country doesn't need, or you're going to sell the spectrum, 32 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 3: which is always valuable to somebody else. 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 4: But he waited a long time forever. 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: So my IRR is like, I don't know, but it 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: was just finally, finally, shareholders and bondholders are going to 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: I think. 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, trading in about seventy five bucks a pop, was at 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 5: fifty back in twenty seventeen. Just don't look back towards 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 5: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. If you've 40 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: been holding on for. 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: The Steel Dish Satellite TV company. Okay, just I vented 42 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: there because it was acad No. 43 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: No, you should have vent after waiting this long. 44 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about rh which is a building materials company 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: and those years are up almost five percent. 46 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, rallying this morning. This is a company that is 47 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 5: listed in London but had pivoted its primary listing to 48 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 5: Hear in the US. This comes after the supply makers, 49 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: so cement think of things like that, laying out midterm 50 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 5: targets for revenue and growth ibadad margins into twenty thirty, 51 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: so they see this year they're adjusted ebitat between seven 52 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 5: and a half billion and seven point seven billion. That's midpoints, 53 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 5: just above what Wall Street was looking for. But when 54 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 5: you look at the first blush reaction from analysts really 55 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 5: talking up the fact that they're laying out financial targets 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: four or five years into the future, averaging an annual 57 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 5: revenue between seven and nine percent. So a slow growing business, 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 5: a building's material business that has really rallied pretty tremendously 59 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 5: since that April bottom on the year, returning about thirty percent, 60 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 5: so a big winner for the company. Again, also has 61 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 5: done tremendously well since it pivoted its primary listing to 62 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 5: HEAR the US. But with all the talk about the 63 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 5: need for spending not only on infrastructure in the US, 64 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 5: but around the world really playing out for that company. 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 5: And this comes ahead of a capital markets day hosted 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 5: by the company today here in New York. Building Products, 67 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 5: Building Products, boring company short rallying this morning, but one 68 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: company that could be a bit more fun to talk 69 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 5: about is Spotify tick er Spot down about five percent today. 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 5: That's the biggest drop for the company since July twenty ninth. 71 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 5: This coming after its CEO, Daniel L. Eck, planning to 72 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 5: step aside after almost two decades leading the company. They 73 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 5: said that their chief Product and Technology Officer chief business 74 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: officer are going to take the rains jointly effective January first. 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 5: So this is a big move for a company that 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 5: was co founded by ec back in two thousand and six. Guys, 77 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 5: I think if you're forty two and stepping away from 78 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 5: being CEO of a company, not a bad move. I'm 79 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 5: not quite there, maybe someday soon. But the stocks still 80 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 5: year to date returning about fifty six percent, so lapping 81 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: the Russell one thousand, which it would be compighence which 82 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: is up about fourteen percent. So a big run for 83 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 5: Spotify since they since he took the company public. But 84 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 5: again giving back some of those recent games down about 85 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 5: five percent. 86 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: I kind of view it was kind of the Netflix 87 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: of the audio business. 88 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little bit of a utility. 89 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: But you know, as you mentioned, he's forty two, So 90 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: is he stepping away in quote marks or is he 91 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: really stepping away? Yeah? 92 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 5: In there he's going to have kind of oversight and 93 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 5: still work with the company, but handing over kind of 94 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 5: the view going to provide some support and some guidance. 95 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 5: The interesting thing I remember talking to someone who's been 96 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 5: a Spotify bull for quite some time, and his kind 97 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 5: of base case was, this is a company that can 98 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: continue to hike prices as much as they want, and 99 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 5: consumers are going to kind of shrug off if their 100 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: streaming service goes from thirteen to sixteen to eighteen dollars 101 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 5: a month, just. 102 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: Because I shrugging off. Complain loudly while it's happening. 103 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 4: But are you a Spotify user? 104 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: I am, and I've watched the prices go up steadily 105 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: every year and complain about it. 106 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: Oh Ridge, go, he's We've got him at nine point 107 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: eight billion in fifty third. 108 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: Ranked again forty two years old. 109 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: Paul, fantastic, great service, great great service, good for him 110 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: stepping away. 111 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: The Stock Movers Report from Bloomberg Radio. 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