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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Action Network Podcast. We are presented by

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Speaker 1: Very excited for this episode, folks, our twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft mock Draft special here on the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Luke Swain, his voice familiar to most

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Speaker 1: of you during the football season, also on our NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft Betting Update episodes we've been delivering now for the

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Speaker 1: last six weeks or so, and joining us today. He's

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy law Guy. He has his own content over

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Speaker 1: at fantasylow guy dot com. Nick Garrisco, Nick, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for stopping by. Why don't you tell the people

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Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself and what we need to

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Speaker 3: You don't need to know much about me. I'm an attorney,

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Speaker 3: and I have been. I've been mocking the draft for

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Speaker 3: about the last decade or so. All my results are

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Speaker 3: over on Fancy Law Guy and I submit to mockdraft

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Speaker 3: database dot com and I've done historically well there. I

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Speaker 3: just transitioned professionally into teaching. Now. I teach at a

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Speaker 3: private school in Covington, Louisiana. So that is why my

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Speaker 3: background right now is indeed my classroom.

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Speaker 1: Very nice, very nice mock draft database, which you referenced,

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Speaker 1: had you as a top six most accurate mock draft

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Speaker 1: in three of the last four years. So we're excited

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Speaker 1: to have you joining us today. So here's what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna go pick by pick one through twenty,

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Speaker 1: alternating Nick will go first. We're gonna start with the

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Speaker 1: number two pick. Feels like the consensus is Bryce Young,

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Speaker 1: and we'll go two through twenty and sprinkled in as

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Speaker 1: we go pick by pick. Luke and Nick are going

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Speaker 1: to weigh in and also mix in some best bets

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Speaker 1: we go through the mock draft. So we're going to

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Speaker 1: focus on the top twenty and of course news hot

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Speaker 1: off the press moments ago Aaron Rodgers to the Jets

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Speaker 1: is now done, so pickswap occurs. The Jets get the

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Speaker 1: fifteenth pick, which previously belonged to Green Bay, and now

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Speaker 1: at thirteen. So it turns out picks in this year's

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Speaker 1: NFL draft are affected by this Aaron Rodgers move. Without

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Speaker 1: further ado, we will start with pick number two, Nick Grisco,

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Speaker 1: you'll go first.

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Speaker 3: on this show, but I do think you gave me

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Speaker 3: Houston Texans. It's still mystery to this point. If I

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Speaker 3: had to mock today, I would be mocking them Will Levis.

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Speaker 3: But that's actually mainly because I'm going to put I'm

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Speaker 3: going to give the tiebreaker between the argument in favor

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to Luke Arizona Cardinals set to pick three.

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Speaker 1: We've talked a bunch Luke about this organization because of

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Tyree Wilson here, which that

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Speaker 1: So just remind everybody how that reflects a pick you

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Speaker 1: Okay, very good Tyree Wilson at number three. Wilson, of

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Speaker 1: we're alternating back to Nick here. Indianapolis Colts set it

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Speaker 1: for they have been connected to all the quarterbacks and

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Speaker 3: I do believe that Will Levis would be the pick

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Speaker 3: I do still think they're going to take a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I'm not buying the well Levis was the quarterback two

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Speaker 3: take you know, Will Anderson because he's you know, a

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Speaker 3: I don't think that the additions at cornerback preclude them

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Speaker 2: read is the Cardinals. But also in context it says

432
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: teams don't think Paris Johnson will be there at nine.

433
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: Just to me, you got three seven. I guess Falcons

434
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: might be a dark horse fairy. If he falls tonight,

435
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: well he wouldn't make it to nine. So they're setting

436
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson won't be there at nine for the Bears,

437
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: which all the mocks say will, but seven feels like

438
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: that speed bump for him to get scooped up, which

439
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: they have a ton of needs cornerbacks trendy. I think

440
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: of Witherspoon's here. It's automatic, but no one. It's like

441
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 2: one of those like you're not expecting it. But it

442
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: makes total sense where their offensive line has been so

443
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: bad they just signed Jimmy g who his happy feet,

444
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: who needs clean pockets, and just inserting Paris that left

445
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 2: tackles just makes a ton of sense. Yeah, I'll go

446
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: Paris at seven, which there is the value for this,

447
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: you could probably get I don't know what his odds

448
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: are right now, but Paris Johnson to go pick seven probably, Yeah,

449
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 2: that was fun. Yeah, I wouldn't say not bet it,

450
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't say like bet it were like I was. Yeah,

451
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 2: I mean it's worth a white missed, not a sprinkle.

452
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: And then Paris Johnson, which is getting destroyed right now

453
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: under nine and a half severely juice. I wouldn't lay

454
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: the juice on that, but it's getting destroyed enough that

455
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: I think it might come down to like eight and

456
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: a half potentially, which you're losing out on the key number, which,

457
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: like the key numbers bears at nine, So I don't

458
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: know if that would make it playable, but yeah, I

459
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: would rather just take Paris to go seven, or like Cardinals,

460
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: which I don't think I mentioned it. Cardinals the draft

461
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: offensive line I think is like plus five hundred, which

462
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: that would be like a perfect trade spot for them

463
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: to get Paris Johnson within value, Like I don't see

464
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: them taking him at three, but if the Cardinals trade

465
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: back and take Paris, like the room at Cardinals offensive

466
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 2: line make a lot of sense too.

467
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: The beauty of doing a betting podcast and you're trying

468
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: to get actionable odds. Sometimes when you surf around, not

469
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: everything is there when news breaks, and again we're going

470
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: to get to the Jets and the Packers and what

471
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: they may do. It's a long way of me saying

472
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out the favorite to draft CJ. Stroud.

473
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: But another way around that, there's loopholes in sports betting, folks.

474
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: The loophole here is if you look at FanDuel right

475
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: at the top, you search NFL Draft number eight overall,

476
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: pick CJ. Stroud's at plus nine hundred. Now, you guys

477
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: could just throw back at me and say, clash Sheen,

478
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: we don't think the Raiders are doing it, and Nick,

479
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: you can tell me you don't think the Falcons are

480
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: doing it because they're not interested in Lamar Jackson. Would

481
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: it shock me if they say, yeah, we're good with CJ. Stroud,

482
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: We'll just we'll go with Ritter again this year or

483
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: some form of another quarterback. They went and brought in

484
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Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke. I realized that in the off season they

485
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Speaker 1: had Mariota last year, So wouldn't surprise me if they

486
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: us on CJ. Stroud. Who do you like at eight.

487
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons are next.

488
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: It would upset a lot of fans, but I do

489
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: think it would be consistent with the new regimes kind

490
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 3: of slow build here with being patient on quarterback. Once again, Wow,

491
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: I don't think fans would be really happy, especially in Atlanta.

492
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: There's a lot of fan and media love for CJ. Stroud,

493
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: but it's not looking like the NFL may share.

494
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: A lot of that love.

495
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: I just wouldn't be surprised if, let's say even all

496
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 3: of the rumors and lately slamming c dish out aren't true.

497
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: Let's say you just half of them are.

498
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 3: That would be enough right there in a kind of

499
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: a top heavy quarterback class to have favorite other quarterbacks Atlanta, though,

500
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: I'm more trying to pinpoint exactly kind of the speed

501
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: of their rebuild, and they've made it clear that they're

502
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: trying to use their free agency money to build or

503
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: round the quarterback. There's been several there have been several

504
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: quotes from Terry Fontino saying how you have to find

505
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: you have to build the team around quarterback first before

506
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: you slot the quarterback who's obsessed with football in there.

507
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: And I don't the Falcons did make a lot of movies.

508
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,239
Speaker 3: But I don't know if they feel I don't think

509
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: they're going to take quarterback. They don't love, is what

510
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 3: I'm trying to say. I don't know if they love CJ.

511
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: Stroud.

512
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure. Would I'd be surprised, No, of

513
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: course not. But here I'm going to go with players

514
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 3: that have been more routinely connected with Atlanta. I'm playing

515
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: playing it safe here. Nolan Smith is a one player,

516
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: is one player that's really been connected a lot to Atlanta,

517
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: not just because he's a local product, but if it's

518
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 3: a major position of need. The Falcons have ranked last

519
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: or near last and almost every pass russ Metric in

520
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: the last two seasons. I think bazarn Robinson possibility there,

521
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: But to me, Nolan Smith's probably the better or more

522
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: likely pick for Atlanta. So I'm going to land with

523
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: Nolan Smith here. And but I gotta say, Luke, I

524
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: really really like the Paris Johnson choice to Vegas. I

525
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: love how you said. This is not a choice that

526
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: a lot of people are thinking about, but it just

527
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: makes a ton of sense. Yeah. I was shaking my

528
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: head and approval there, because yeah, I haven't really mocked

529
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: that one a lot, but Vegas has a massive need

530
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: along the offensive line, so yeah, it could really make

531
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: Chicago mad. Here Atlanta, I'm looking at Nolan Smith. They've

532
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: done a lot of homework on it on cornerbacks here,

533
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 3: so Christian Godalas, he played a lot of own coverage

534
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: show if Witherspoon's gone by either the Lions or the Raiders.

535
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: Christian Zalas is another player that I'm I could see

536
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 3: Atlanta taking, So Nolan Smith, Christian Goanzalas, and Jon Robinson.

537
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to take Nolan Smith here for Atlanta.

538
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: Love that which which like, if I'm making a mock

539
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: draft and I'm allowing trades, like this spot is perfect

540
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: for a trade back with what's say Titans Tennessee. Yes,

541
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: if QB like falls, the Falcons are very very likely

542
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: maybe not Nolan, if like, if they're in love with Nolan,

543
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: they might not trade back, but if they have a

544
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: list of like Nolan Jean van Ness, they're most they're

545
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: very likely almost guaranteed to get one of those three

546
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: at pick eleven instead of taking him at eight, and

547
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: they basically get extra picks trade back with the Texans,

548
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: who maybe didn't take a quarterback, or the Titans, who

549
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: we know are in the market for a quarterback and

550
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: get picks, get the same guy they're going to going

551
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: to in the first place, which Nolan might not make

552
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: it past the Eagles, which would be the only want

553
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: room for hesitation, but all the other guys would be there,

554
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: which is a prime trade back spot, right.

555
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: That would be my concern as well. I was thinking

556
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: you just stole the words right out of my mouth,

557
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: is that if they love Nolan, I'd be afraid of

558
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: Philly because I would have Nolan mocked to Philly if

559
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: not going to it Atlanta and Bajon. I mean's possibility

560
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: there too. But the argument I did what you brought

561
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: up van Ness. I'm reading a lot of stuff about

562
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: the Falcons, how they prefer that Terry font comes from

563
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: the Saints. They could see van Ness as more of

564
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: the Cam Jordan type with the Saints, and the Saints

565
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: historically have preferred length. They really prioritize length along the

566
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 3: defensive line. I think that's a really strong counter argument

567
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: to Nolan Smith, who may have the speed and quickness

568
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 3: but not necessarily the length there. So I think van

569
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: Ness is in play, especially if.

570
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: They move back.

571
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: But does do you Luke, do you think that that

572
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 3: makes Stroud a potential bet for pick eight because you

573
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: could cover either the Falcons maybe taking a fallen strout

574
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: and being a possible trade out scenario to like you

575
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 3: said that, the Titans or the Texans.

576
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is when it gets like really fun with

577
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: like the fun odds. They're still here where if he falls,

578
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: like this is the perfect range to trade end. Right,

579
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: He's even possible for the Falcons, which you're not going

580
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: to like, I think they only have picks. I think

581
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: ten is the highest pick they've listed, which you're not

582
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: going to get much better. He's not going to go nine.

583
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: He's not going to go ten or less. There's a

584
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: trade which you still have the possibility of the Falcons

585
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: taking him and then the possibility of a team trading

586
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: end for plus eight hundred. Yeah, that's yeah, Like you're

587
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: not going to find better value on a chaos scenario

588
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: than that.

589
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: I would agree Atlanta Falcons are the favorite to land

590
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: running back by John Robinson out of Texas at plus

591
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: two point fifty. But we are going in a different

592
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: direction here on our podcast. Also, it just looked up

593
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: he brought this up Nick and Luke brought this up

594
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: and we discussed the Lions with the draft Witherspoon, They've

595
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: done some tinkering with their secondary Gardner Johnson. They went

596
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: out and made the trade as well for Sutton, and

597
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: then you look at Atlanta. They reupt with Bates Okudu

598
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: is acquired via trade. So could they go there? But

599
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: if they're not as high on Gonzales as they are

600
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: on Witherspoon, I understand the pivot to go to Nolan Smith. Okay, Luke,

601
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: the Bears are at nine. Of course, they moved back

602
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: in the first round because of their blockbuster deal with

603
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, which took them out of the number

604
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: one spot. They're now at nine. What direction are the

605
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: Bears going? And Luke, what can you add as well

606
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: about value potentially from a betting perspective here?

607
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: So I think it's one of two options here where

608
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: I think if Jalen Carter falls, I think you can

609
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: pencil him in here or if he doesn't, which is

610
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: the million dollar question, where Jalen Carter is going to

611
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: fall because I can make an argument for his under

612
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: six and a half and I can make an argument

613
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: for his over six and a half. But the reason

614
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: he would fall is something I don't bet into, which

615
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: is character. So I think if he falls, it's Jalen.

616
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: He's not making out of the top ten. But if

617
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: he's not there, I would probably lean Darnell Wright the

618
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: tackle out of Tennessee. So I do think it's one

619
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: of those too, And I would almost assume. I would

620
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: almost say if Paris and Darnell are there, like everything

621
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: you read and hear and the Bears bloggers or experts,

622
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: et cetera, like, they have a really strong opinion on

623
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: Darnell and it's not like a group think. It didn't

624
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: just come out of anywhere. They do have a strong

625
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: opinion on Darnell being the offensive lineman for them if

626
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 2: they take one. Which but I'm gonna go Jalen. He's there,

627
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 2: He's got to go somewhere. He's the landmine that can

628
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: blow everything up. Him and Bijon are the two that

629
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: you just have no idea where to mock, And this

630
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: is the spot I'm gonna go with Jalen if you

631
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: want to. In terms of bets, if you want to,

632
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: like value would be taking like Darnell specific odds nine

633
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 2: Darnell first, offensive lineman off the board. I think Jalen

634
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 2: to go like Jalen to go to the Bears, I

635
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: think it's like plus three hundred. I think that's fine too,

636
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: because every like mock draft I make myself, he just

637
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,959
Speaker 2: continues that you just have other spots to lot over him,

638
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: and he's just there at nine every single time. But

639
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: at the same time, like he is a freak. He

640
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 2: is insanely talented and spectacular fits for five and six

641
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: that I can also see not being there. But if

642
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: he gets past five and six, it seems like he

643
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: just slides right into the Bears unless they trade up,

644
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: which I think seven would be the jail in trade

645
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: op spot. But I'll go with jailing at nine.

646
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: Plus three thirty. If you look around the market for

647
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter to be the pick for the Bears, or

648
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: which team will draft Jalen Carter and the Bears the

649
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: favorite at plus three thirty, Lions, Eagles, Seahawks all in

650
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: the mix. Brings us to Nick and we'll pick it

651
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: up a little bit here. I know we're going to

652
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: spend some time on thirteen and fifteen because of the

653
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: Rogers trade and what that might mean for some over

654
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: under scenarios and of course team needs. Of course, these

655
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: everything could also just be as you guys have highlighted,

656
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: there could be trades earlier in this first round to

657
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: screw up everyone's bock drafts across the league, and it

658
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: just creates a domino effect. Eagles at ten, Nick, they've

659
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: got a really great core, Jalen Hurts took a team

660
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: friendly deal. They're going to run it back with most

661
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: of their roster. What could you see them trying to

662
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: improve though? What would they prioritize here at ten? I

663
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: would imagine that's the direction you would go in based

664
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: on what they want to prioritize, right.

665
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: I think Howary Roseman would probably prioritize the trenches here,

666
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: whether it's offensive or defensive line. It's not like the

667
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: Eagles are bad in the trenches, but it is like

668
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: they're getting older. And we've seen the drastic difference between

669
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 3: the Eagles when Lane Johnson isn't playing and is playing.

670
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: I believe that the Eagles love Nolan Smith. I absolutely

671
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 3: believe that Jalen Carter would be the pick if he

672
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: was able here. So Luke kind of saw my pick

673
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: there with the Bears, which may happen, and like you mentioned,

674
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 3: in reality, one of these teams, whether it's eight, nine,

675
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: even seven, could trade up for CJ. Stroud, So I

676
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: think the Eagles would probably trade down with whoever wants Stroud.

677
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 3: Here I had to make a pick, though, it's gonna

678
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: be between with Paris Johnson off the board, with Nolan

679
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: Smith off the board, It's gonna be between Jalen Carter.

680
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: It's between either Lucas van ness Uh, Peter Skaransky and

681
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 3: Christian Zalas. Not to mention, I think the would also

682
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: be in on Devin Witherspoon too, So a lot of

683
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: the players they're in on have gone in this mock.

684
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: But luckily the trench is a wide field. Here, I'm

685
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: gonna go with I'm debating, but I'm gonna go with

686
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: Peter Scornsky here the guard for the Eagles. Again again,

687
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: I want to reiterate that because it's the betting, because

688
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: the podcast prioritize betting. I do think the Eagles probably

689
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: have Carter, Witherspoon and Nolan Smith and probably Paris Johnson

690
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: higher on their board. It's but in this scenario, you

691
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: gotta take what falls to you, and I'm gonna go

692
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: with uh Skaranski here. You could plug and play immediately.

693
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 3: I believe it right guard for the Eagles, and he

694
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: would be a long term fixture there and they possibly

695
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: could he could possibly develop at right tackle to replace

696
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: Lane Johnson at some point. But Scaronsky, I think he's

697
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: gonna fit pretty much everywhere. So you're looking at any

698
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: team between you know, the Bears at nine and maybe

699
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 3: the Patriots at fourteen. You're looking at any team could

700
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: take Scaransky.

701
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: Honestly, christpher Kelsey is back for another year at center,

702
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: and Lane Johnson was banged up at the end of

703
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: last year. I had to manage him before making their

704
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: run to the Super Bowl. And I will add Skoronsky

705
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: at Fandel the favorite to go at ten overall, Scoronsky

706
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: in plus two fifty, Paris Johnson, Nolan Smith, Jalen Carter.

707
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: So all the names you just rattled off in our

708
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: situation here for our mock draft purposes, he would be

709
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: off the board. Those names would be off the board.

710
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: Skoransky would be there at ten for an Eagles team

711
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: trying to retool, and Jalen hurts upright after giving him

712
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: a crap ton of money on to pick eleven the

713
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Well, okay, I'll do one more time C J.

714
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: Stroud is available. This seems like a home run hit

715
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: at eleven. Luke tell me otherwise.

716
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it just you have to which

717
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: it seems like Stroud's the only quarterback that hasn't been

718
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: rumored to the Titans, but he's there that Yeah, he

719
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: has a need Stroud odds to go to the Titans.

720
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 2: I don't think we have specific Stroud odds, but yeah,

721
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean at eleven, you just kind of got a

722
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: slot of man. Really isn't much of an explanation of someone.

723
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: He's just there. They've had they've been the team with

724
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: one of the most QB rumors and they've really been

725
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 2: grinded around Levis, who at one point people were mocking

726
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: Levis eleven twelve because they thought that's we're going to go,

727
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: or Richardson because of the Bridge quarterback narrative. But Stroud

728
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: being there, Yeah, I mean, it's uh, you just got it. Yeah,

729
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: we don't have any odds on Stroud at eleven.

730
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: But we do have Tennessee to take a quarter back

731
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: or part of me. I always screw up the language

732
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: of this, I apologize for a listening now.

733
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 2: It's a time twister.

734
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: It is because then like position of whatever, you know

735
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: what I'm getting at position of Titans first, first player

736
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: drafted offensive line is the leader at plus one ten

737
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks next at plus one twenty five, which we

738
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: have discussed in our Betting Update episodes here on the

739
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: Action Network podcast previously. And that would fit if Stroud's there,

740
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: or it was Levis at the time, or Anthony Richardson,

741
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: like you said, Levis and Richardson were the names we

742
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: kept bringing up. There's been no connection of Stroud in Tennessee.

743
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would say no at these odds because

744
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: you need a quarterback to fall, which guys like Zerline

745
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: or like the experts that we all follow, think that

746
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: a quarterback can follow are the top ten. We don't

747
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: know which one consensus it might be Richardson, but you

748
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: need a quarterback to fall, or you need the Titans

749
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: to trade out and to get him, which are two

750
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: scenarios that seem like less likely than likely, which at

751
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: plus one p. Fifteen, if they're still there, it's probably

752
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: more likely. Quoterec isn't there, and it really should be

753
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: a lot higher where if anything like offensive line at

754
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: plus money probably better value quote unquote, just purely based

755
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: off of knowing that tackles will be available at eleven

756
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: that are worthy of that pick and it being a need. Yeah,

757
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if you really want to long shot like

758
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: wide receiver potentially, like I'm very against this, Jason going

759
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: at eleven the wide receiver the Titans if everyone's off

760
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 2: the board, like it's kind of just like who else

761
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: are they going to take? Which I think is like

762
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: fourteen to one. I haven't bet it because I have

763
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: json overs, but yeah, I don't think there's anything to

764
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: bet here, Okay.

765
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: And the news cycle is constantly flowing and moving. I

766
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: will add that Peter King actually did say on this day,

767
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: but we were recording, Peter King came out today and

768
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: said that he projects the Titans to move up and

769
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: possibly draft CJ.

770
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: Stroud.

771
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: So of course it like came out today when we were.

772
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: And there was there was something that one of one

773
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 2: of the discords from someone that I trust that would

774
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: know this type of stuff. Last week, I want to

775
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: say that is he a.

776
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: High school English teacher? It's not Nick?

777
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: Okay, word is that potentially ESPN might have pulled the

778
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: reporters from Sea Hawks from Seattle for the draft and

779
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: sent them to Tennessee anticipating a quarterback being drafted there

780
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: because quarterbacks are what everyone cares about, and you want

781
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: to have the most coverage for the teams that take quarterbacks.

782
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: And that was a very interesting move. I'm not sure

783
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: if it is. I can't say that it actually happened,

784
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: but would make sense which would support or Titans trading

785
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: up or quarterback falling.

786
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Okay, moving on to the Texans again at twelve, as

787
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Luke had sort of mentioned a moment ago possibility of

788
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: Will Levis at this spot, but of course a lot

789
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: of things have changed where Levis is now the favorite

790
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: to go number two overall potentially or at least be

791
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: the second quarterback coming off the board, So the favorite

792
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: possibly to four with the Cult Seattle, etc. Well, now

793
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks are off the board. The quarterbacks we

794
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: think our first round quarterbacks in Bryce Young, Will Levis,

795
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, and c. J.

796
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Stroud.

797
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: So the Texans are at twelve, Nick, who do you

798
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: like here at twelve with the Texans?

799
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: Right, And that's kind of an argument to go maybe

800
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: with a quarterback early on, because you may not get

801
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: one if you're Houston, if you stick around at twelve.

802
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the Titans would probably take either

803
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: Stroud or Anthony. If we were having the same conversation

804
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 3: about Anthony Richardson, I think the Titans would take Richardson

805
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: at eleven as well, if they or if not, if

806
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: they don't even trade up for one of those, which

807
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: would probably be more likely. Honestly, so we're looking at

808
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: the point is we're looking at a situation where it

809
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 3: seems likely that none of the top four widely considered

810
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 3: prospects at quarterback will make it too. I don't think

811
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: you or I have that making it to Houston. It's

812
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: tough to say if they pull the trigger if it was,

813
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: but here obviously they I have them taking Levis and

814
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: so I'm going to go here and take again I

815
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 3: mentioned pick two Jamiko Ryans. I think he really wants

816
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: to come out with one of these two picks being

817
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: a defensive building block that he can build his defense around.

818
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 3: I'm going to take Lucas van Ness here. I do

819
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: think there's a chance that van Ness could fall. In fact,

820
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 3: I kind of considered this potentially his Seialing. I don't

821
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 3: want to say ceiling, because maybe the Bears are the

822
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: eagles of the ceiling, but realistic ceiling. I think van

823
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 3: Ness could slide a little if he doesn't go here.

824
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: But in this case, Houston has a massive needed defensive

825
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: end and van Ness again could remind them of the

826
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: you know that athletic prototype, could remind them of J. J. Watt.

827
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: I could see Houston taking van Ness here. It's kind

828
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: of a clean prospect here, such.

829
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: A culture fit based on analysis too.

830
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: And this is kind of like the argument as to

831
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: why the kind of I think they should go quarterback

832
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: at two? Because would you rather have Levis and van

833
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: Ness or Tyree Wilson? And yeah, I mean I don't know,

834
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: they're like whoever's that twelve.

835
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: Or Trey Lance? If they go out and trade for

836
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: Trey Lance? Who John Lynch did say today, John Lynch

837
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: GM forty nine ers he expects Trey Lance to remain

838
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. That was today. But of course there's

839
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: connections between Demigo Ryan's and Lance from their time together

840
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: in San Francisco.

841
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you would assume that, like if they

842
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: do go line, that they use his pick to trade

843
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: in assume it maybe if someone falls, but yeah, like

844
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: in Jeremio last week tweeted like his perfect draft for

845
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: the Texans or something, and he had Vans twelve, which, yeah,

846
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: all the mocks that I'm making have Vans twelve too,

847
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 2: but you do you definitely like if he doesn't go here,

848
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: he could fall. I'm progressively seeing him go further and

849
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: further down, Like I'm even seeing him in the twenties,

850
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: which he was, Like he's been like one of those

851
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: hype guys of the draft season where like he's gone

852
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: from second rounder all the way into like the top

853
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: ten at one where he feels like he's losing that momentum,

854
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: but still the top twenty pick.

855
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm excited for this. Now, Pick thirteen now belongs

856
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: to the green Bay Packers because the news in the

857
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: NFL that is making the rounds, Aaron Rodgers trade is

858
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: now official. So the Jets get Aaron Rodgers, they get

859
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: Green Bay's fifteenth pick. So now the Jets are picking

860
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: at fifteen into the twenty twenty three draft. The Packers

861
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: move from fifteen to thirteen if we're talking now, and

862
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: they get a future they get a second round pick

863
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: this year as well a conditional second for next year,

864
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: which becomes a first if Rogers plays sixty five percent

865
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: of the games. That's not anything that we need to

866
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: worry about for this particular exercise, but we do need

867
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: to discuss that the Packers are drafting at thirteen. And

868
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a guy who comes on here and makes

869
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: the picks. I set you guys up for the picks,

870
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: but I, Luke, I cannot take my eyes off Jackson

871
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba at plus four seventy to go to

872
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers at thirteen just to spite the

873
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: quarterback and give Jordan Love another weapon.

874
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we were recording as this happened in I

875
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: have my phone on like totally silent right now, where

876
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: this is like pure gut reactions, having not read anything

877
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: based off of this, And I opened Twitter up for

878
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: a second and it was like just a fleecing of

879
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: the Jets, like absolutely robbed, where desperate people make desperate moves,

880
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: which the Jets definitely were. But the second I saw

881
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: that Nick brought to my attention, it just makes JSN

882
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 2: makes so much sense where they're leap frogging the Patriots

883
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: who were one of the favorites to take JSN, and

884
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: I immediately bet JSN, which at the time was plus

885
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 2: six hundred. Now it's plus four seventy, I think, And

886
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: I think it could come down some more because these

887
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: types of things, everyone's gonna JSN is gonna be an

888
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 2: every mock draft of the Packers now, and it can

889
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: only come down because of how these markets work. But

890
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: it just makes a ton of sense where the Packers

891
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: are taking the quarterback a wide receiver for the first

892
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: time since Aaron Rodgers' rookie year, and now they have

893
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: a new quarterback, and the narratives will go on and on.

894
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit too tight End was

895
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 2: a trendy pick at fifteen, which I think tight End

896
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 2: was a little bit too rich at fifteen, and this

897
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: just kind of puts it way too rich that I

898
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: don't see it being plausible at thirteen. I guess not crazy,

899
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: but jays was just this is like right in his range.

900
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: So Jaysen at thirteen to the Packers.

901
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Nick, we had discussed this during our

902
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: our brief pause, and Nick sort of kind of put

903
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: that on your radar. So the and Jackson Smith and Jigba.

904
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: For the folks that are just kind of get dabbling,

905
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: not fully paying attention, you kind of get involved here

906
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: at this time of year, the week of he's the

907
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: clear cut favorite to be the number one receiver off

908
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: the board. His over under position has skyrocketed. It's now

909
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: at he is at I have it right here, Jackson

910
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbu is over under now is eleven and

911
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: twelve and a half, So that number has been moving

912
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: quite a bit. So you kind of lost your chance

913
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: on that one, Okay, Nick, New England Patriots at fourteen,

914
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: here you go, no longer the receiver available. So what

915
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: direction does Bill Belichick go? He's probably just going to

916
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: draft a fucking guard, right.

917
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: That was the reason that it came to mind, honestly

918
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 3: about them wanting to do the switch, because I had

919
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 3: had Jackson Smith and Jigid Lockton mocked to New England

920
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: for the longest time. Now I think it's been like

921
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: two weeks, and I'm one of those people that updates

922
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 3: im mock like every day. So that was the first

923
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: thing I thought of, was like, oh, you know, they

924
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 3: have to jump them. I think New England still could

925
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: possibly take a receiver, especially if they trade down. I

926
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 3: really do think that Jasn is probably the apple of

927
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: their eye. But they've done a lot of work on

928
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 3: Jay Flowers too. I'm not bold enough to mock day

929
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: Flowers here right now, but he does fit exactly kind

930
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 3: of like that culture.

931
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about culture, what Bill Belichick.

932
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 3: Would be going for here. There's just a massive need

933
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: at receiver. They have so much uncertainty after this offseason,

934
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 3: a lot of contracts expiring in New England. Not to

935
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: mention it was a need even regardless of contracts, but

936
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 3: at this point, if the Green Bay takes jsin, I

937
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 3: think New England would probably be looking at offensive tackle.

938
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 3: I do think that this kick's most likely going to

939
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: be offense because of all the offensive issues they had

940
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: last season. I know that's a very simplistic way of

941
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: looking at the draft, but one of the first things

942
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: I do when I'm mocking is does this team really

943
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: need this player? And before even before even pigeonholing positions

944
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: like wide receiver or tackle, I say, what does the

945
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: team need? More like offensive help or defensive help? And

946
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 3: last year, with all of the controversy surrounding their offense,

947
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: and they're often theive coordinator, and now there's quarterback issues

948
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: potentially with Mac Jones. I just think that the offense

949
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 3: needs more help than the defense. So to me, I'm

950
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: leaning offense here, and then if there's not going to

951
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 3: be wide receiver, if Jay Flowers should go a little

952
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: bit later, offensive tackles a position I'm gonna knock out there.

953
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: They signed a bunch of tackles like Riley Rel, Riley

954
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 3: Reef excuse me, and others to a one year deal,

955
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 3: but the position is uncertain. I think Isaiah Win has

956
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: an expiring contract this year, and there are I think

957
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: Michael in Win you I think I'm pronouncing his name right,

958
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: is also expiring at the end of this year. So yeah,

959
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: they have contractual concerns at along the offensive line. And

960
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick he loves his tackles. And again Win also

961
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: came from Georgia. I could see Progerick Jones being athletic

962
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: profile where he's kind of raw now, but he doesn't

963
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: have to start immediately, so and what better team to

964
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 3: develop the player than than the New England here, So

965
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: Broderick Jones to me makes a lot of sense at

966
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 3: at fourteen for New England, I'll go with Broderick with

967
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 3: that one.

968
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: So that with that one, it's where is that like

969
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 2: if you like the wide receivers that went ten, eleven

970
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: and No. Eleven, twelve, and thirteen were Chris Olave, Jamison Williams,

971
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 2: and Garrett Wilson last year, and now we want to

972
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: say Zay Flowers could go in that same range. That's

973
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: like kind of the argument to me that I just

974
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 2: can't get behind it. Like and no player has been

975
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: connected to a team more probably based off of like

976
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: double visits Boston College, which with the Patriots, like if

977
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 2: you think you know what they're going to do, it's

978
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: usually not that, which who knows. That could be a smoke.

979
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 2: And now technically they're going to be getting one better

980
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: tackle than what they've been planning for now that the

981
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: Jets are out of the way, which was somewhat like

982
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: they could.

983
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: Have taken Roderck Jones, like the Jets probably a favorite

984
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: for Jones. And not to mention that I didn't mean

985
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: to cut you off, but I really wanted to say

986
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: here that, uh, this happened with Zion Johnson last year.

987
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 1: He was the local product.

988
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 3: Like Zay Flowers, he was the local product that was

989
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 3: everyone had mocked, including Breer, had mocked to New England,

990
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: I believe, and they that just you know, wasn't the

991
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: route that would say. I don't think Zion made it

992
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: to them. But you just never know what's going to happen,

993
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 3: and how much can you really love someone's personality enough,

994
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 3: like with Jay Flowers, to where you would take them

995
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: at fourteen right, and it's in.

996
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it totally could be the case where I

997
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: have a zay over ticket and that is one of

998
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 2: the land mindes that worries me. But it's just too

999
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: much attention. I think it's the set one of the

1000
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: public sexy positions that everyone wants to talk about that

1001
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: the media someone drags them down further than they should be.

1002
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: Where there's a reason that the over under on wide

1003
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: receivers has gone from four and a half to three

1004
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: and a half, and I think the undersuice now. But yeah,

1005
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: I mean, the Jets are probably one of the few

1006
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: consensus locks to take a tackle at their spot and

1007
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: now it's they're going to get the past. Are gonna

1008
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: have one better guy than what they expected. I agree

1009
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: with this.

1010
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: Position of New England Patriots first player draft. I did

1011
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: offensive Lineman at plus four fifty. Receiver is plus one seventy.

1012
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: So that is a good beat like that right there, plus.

1013
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: Four to fifty. Okay, it's good stuff.

1014
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: I think that's a best bet for this show for sure.

1015
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. And again it reflects what we just

1016
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 1: discussed about the Packers being at thirteen for Jackson Smith

1017
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: and Jigba Zavel hours over twenty two and a half.

1018
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: By the way, draft position at minus one eighty eight,

1019
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: as we discussed in our last betting update show, he

1020
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: was working out with Patrick Mahomes, So thank you. Probably

1021
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: going to fall later in the first based on where

1022
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: they're drafting. Okay, onto the Jets. So as again, as

1023
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: a result of the Aaron Rodgers trade, the Jets move

1024
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: from thirteen to fifteen, what do the Jets do? Luke, Luke,

1025
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: it's the Aaron Rodgers picks here, these odd picks. So

1026
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: at fifteen, what do the Jets do as a result

1027
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: of moving two spots down?

1028
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: So like, it's like all the charts, all the trade

1029
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: values having to do with the like draft, every pick

1030
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: has a specific value and needs to be even et cetera.

1031
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 2: Like if you go by that, the Jets got totally fleeced,

1032
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 2: is what you're going to see, Like the Jets desperate,

1033
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: they gave up a first round pick or swapped, et cetera.

1034
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: But technically, like the Jets are kind of getting the

1035
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: same guy that they might be getting like at thirteen,

1036
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: there isn't really a huge fall off from the tackle

1037
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: that they're probably going to get at fifteen. So it

1038
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: was we're assuming it's either Roderick or Darnell, let's just say,

1039
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: or maybe like Paris or Scronsky, Like they still are

1040
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: this four or five, like I don't want to say elite,

1041
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,959
Speaker 2: but like very first round worthy tackles, and then after

1042
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: that the drop off is huge and taking Paris kind

1043
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: of drags everyone down, But the Jets are still getting

1044
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: one of the top five guys and Darnell, right, I

1045
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: think is an easy pick at fifteen just makes a

1046
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: lot more sense honestly than I ever thought. Roderick did.

1047
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: Hey onto six Nick? The Commanders are next. They could

1048
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: use help in a lot of places, as we know.

1049
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: I would imagine it's best available at this stage for

1050
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: them and where they are currently slated to pick. What

1051
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: do you think it's sixteen for Washington?

1052
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 3: Well, I believe a player has slipped through the cracks,

1053
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 3: and I may be corrected here, but I bet I believe.

1054
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: I almost think New England may take this player over

1055
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: Roderick Jones, but I leave Christian Gonzalez has slipped through

1056
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: the cracks here, and that doesn't surprise me a lot

1057
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 3: because I've had a tough time mocking Gonzalez as well,

1058
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: because if the Cardinals don't trade back, you know, I

1059
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 3: think the Raiders may take Gonzales there, and it's possible

1060
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 3: the Texans may even prefer Gonzalez over Lucas van Ness.

1061
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: But if I were doing New England's pickover again, I

1062
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: may consider Gonzales there. I don't know that need for

1063
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: a tackle is pretty strong too, but either way, Gonzales

1064
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 3: should not be sliding past Washington in any scenario. Washington

1065
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: a need for cornerback. They've been wanting to address that

1066
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 3: this offseason, for sure, so much to the point where

1067
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm pretty based on my intel, which you know, I

1068
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 3: don't have any actual connections with people who you know,

1069
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 3: work for Washington, but based on the people I trust

1070
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 3: in regarding Washington, I think that I think that they

1071
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: really like Deontay Banks corner out of Maryland, kind of

1072
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: local kid there as well. But I would they would love,

1073
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: obviously for Christian Gonzales to be there, I'm sure, because

1074
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: the cornerback position is a need. I've also heard several

1075
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: things Washington being a potential of John Robinson selection as

1076
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: well as the Eagles and the Falcons, So that makes

1077
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: sense in terms of, you know what Washington really needs

1078
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: being really offense and air at the enemy, wanting to

1079
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 3: give him a piece to work with there that's obviously

1080
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 3: not quarterback, because you want to hide the quarterback there

1081
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: in Washington, at least for this year. So my gut

1082
00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: tells me that this pick is going to be offense. However,

1083
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: or the way the board's shaking out here in the

1084
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 3: way it might own draft night, is Christian Gonzales fall.

1085
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna have to in that slide here with

1086
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 3: Gonzalez going to Washington.

1087
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about Gonzales, like he is crime for fourteen,

1088
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: but the fact that he's there, I'm easy like that

1089
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: would be like a Gonzalez over Let's just say there's

1090
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: no exact picks. Then at seventeen with the Steelers, I'm

1091
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 2: gonna go with Joey Porter, there's connections. You got Banks

1092
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: off the board, the tackles are off the board. Anton,

1093
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: they had a Top thirty visit, which Tom Win is

1094
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: the guy who basically tells everyone who they're drafting, and

1095
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 2: the top thirty visits are one of the key's to

1096
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 2: figuring that out. And Brisy, Anton Ringo or kind of

1097
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 2: the three guys that have traction in terms of who

1098
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: people think they have interested in. But yeah, Joey Porter

1099
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: got the connections. It's pretty obvious. It's one of the

1100
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: most mocked picks there. But I think guys aren't following that.

1101
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: We might have s off this monk that joy Porter

1102
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 2: at seventeen makes a lot of sense, huge need, which

1103
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: would be a one hundred and nineteen and a half bet.

1104
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I have Porter going later and you mentioned

1105
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 3: that Banks is off the board. Would you take Banks

1106
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: over Porter here with the Steeler because Bank still is

1107
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 3: on the board. I didn't have them going to Washington.

1108
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: I would have had Gonzales not falling that.

1109
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think Porter is like

1110
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: a prime guy to fall awayter than when he's being mocked.

1111
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: But actually I'm gonna go Anton Anton Anton at seventh

1112
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm changing my mind. Anton is seventeen, top thirty. Visit

1113
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: it is a need. Porter's the trendy pick which I

1114
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: kind of just got sucked into. But Anton, who's a

1115
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: riser in the draft, just makes a lot of sense,

1116
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: and they can get a lot. They can get someone

1117
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: like Ringo or the top half of the second round

1118
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: has Corners. I can make an argument for more there

1119
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: than I could based off who's available now at seven,

1120
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: I think.

1121
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 3: Right, I didn't mean to change your mind there.

1122
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: No, I'm glad you've drown it out.

1123
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Porter or Banks

1124
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: is drafted by the Steelers. But yeah, they do need

1125
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 3: an offensive tackle on Harrison's the best one available.

1126
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: Okay, let's zip through these last couple because we got

1127
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: to get out of here soon. Let's go to Steelers next.

1128
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: So Steelers at seventeen, we just discussed that. How about

1129
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: the Lions, Nick at eighteen. They already took a corner

1130
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: earlier in Witherspoon based on our mock draft.

1131
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: Right, and I really would have them going Deontay Banks

1132
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 3: here had they not taken Witherspoon.

1133
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: I think they're really really high on Banks.

1134
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 3: Other people from other sources that I trust are saying

1135
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 3: the Lions are going to be really interested in addressing

1136
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 3: the offensive guard position here along with Elijah Kanty, who

1137
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: I think they probably have high on their board due

1138
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: to some past history there with Brad Holmes and Aaron

1139
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 3: Donald the Rams. But I do think it's a little

1140
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: rich for Canty if it's not Detroit here, So I'm

1141
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: gonna go with I'm gonna go with Miles Murphy I

1142
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 3: think will be selected around this spot here shrusher out

1143
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 3: of Clemson. Uh. And that's if Detroit. Detroit could take

1144
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: a pass rusher if one falls Wilson or Anderson at six,

1145
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: and then we could be getting Deontay Banks here. But

1146
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: in this scenario, I think they kind of fortified the

1147
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 3: defense right now and they'll take Miles Murphy to pair

1148
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: up with Aiden Hutchinson. Last year in James Houston kind

1149
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 3: of coming off the bench being that change pace pass

1150
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 3: rusher rule, I think they really really liked that. Along

1151
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 3: the defensive line.

1152
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: Seven heard Jon Robinson's name, yet Tampa would be next Luke.

1153
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 2: And he is off the board. I mean, Bijon is

1154
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: like the landmine that no one knows right Nowjon you

1155
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 2: got four nat out. It is just an awful team.

1156
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: He is an impact player where I honestly would be

1157
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: surprised if he fell like his over runners thirteen and

1158
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: a half or fifteen and a half. This would be

1159
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: a Bjon Over, which I told myself at the start

1160
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 2: of draft season that I would not bet up Bejon Over,

1161
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: even though all the mock drafts tell you it's ato.

1162
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: This is just, honestly, the tackles roped the board. If

1163
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: Bijon Anton, I might have gone beat Anton. But like

1164
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: I just it's just I just can't see Jean getting

1165
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 2: this far. And for a team that has so many needs,

1166
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: maybe a fan base that is going to be very

1167
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: unhappy this year, he's like a last er on. Maybe

1168
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: make it some people happy, and Bijon, you can make

1169
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: an argument at any pick. Any pick isn't wrong because

1170
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: he is a generational talent. So four Nests out. I

1171
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: know they drafted a running back in the second last year,

1172
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: but every team needs too and he just makes sense

1173
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 2: at nineteen.

1174
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, all right, we'll give Baker a running game.

1175
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: I guess he needed that when he was in Cleveland.

1176
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: His over under draft position said at twelve and a

1177
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: half Bejeon Robinson, but truly good running back going in

1178
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: the freaking top ten at this day and age. It's

1179
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: going on right now with Saquon and Zeke. Just got

1180
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: let go, sorry small Ran Okay, Nick, take us home

1181
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: pick number twenty Seattle, then we'll wrap it up.

1182
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think I actually beat Vijon, could go

1183
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 3: to Atlanta, Philly, and actually I think Detroit, even I

1184
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 3: just said them, I think Detroit considered Vijeon as well

1185
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: as well as Washington at sixteen. But and I agree

1186
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: with Luke, I actually would have mocked Jon at nineteen

1187
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: two in that scenario as well. For Seattle, I'm looking

1188
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: at Zay Flowers because I think he's perfect for the

1189
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 3: slot there with DK Metcalf and Tyler locked it on

1190
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: the outside. But in this mock, I'm gonna go with

1191
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 3: Deontay Banks. I really do think he's going to go

1192
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: around this area, that eighteen to twenty three range, and

1193
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 3: so I think at cornerback, the Seattle likes longer cornerbacks

1194
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 3: with a lot of athleticism. So I'm going to go

1195
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 3: with Deontay Banks here for the Seattle Seahawks.

1196
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: In which guess what is runner is twenty and a half.

1197
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: Oh there you go, which I would have had Banks

1198
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: ahead of Joey too. Love that, gentlemen.

1199
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Nick, thanks for stopping by. Nick Grisco

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01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: fantasylg Guy catches work over at fantasyloguy dot com. Thanks

1201
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: for stopping by the podcast. Great work, great insight, Go

1202
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: read to stuff. He's pretty on it when it comes

1203
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: to the mock draft. Each and every year draft starts Thursday.

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01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:12,880
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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,320
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