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Speaker 1: What do we have, Prissault Indean, We do a whole

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Speaker 1: the interre regime, most centenary and okanawes, I'm like, tell

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Speaker 1: me everything about it. I mean, that is suspicious in

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Speaker 1: and of itself. Okay, it's going to put that out there.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the prime all right. Lots

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Speaker 1: of very interesting little dramas playing out today in New York,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of them have to do with the

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Speaker 1: fact that you had this big redistricting effort and so

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Speaker 1: now you have totally new districts that have been drawn,

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Speaker 1: and it has thrown the whole thing into total chaos.

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Speaker 1: And now you have a bunch of these primaries that

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Speaker 1: are happening today, which are like you know, established democratic

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Speaker 1: incumbent versus incumbent, and progressive versus corporate to all sorts

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Speaker 1: of storylines that are playing out right now. So let's

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Speaker 1: start with the first one that we actually have covered

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Speaker 1: this one a little bit before. So in this district,

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Speaker 1: it's New York ten it's like Lower Manhattan and part

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Speaker 1: of Brooklyn. You've got Dan Goldman, who is the heir

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Speaker 1: to the Levi Strauss fortune, and he also became known

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Speaker 1: in like resisted slip circles because he was the lawyer

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Speaker 1: on the first Trump impeachment. And he is the more

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Speaker 1: sort of centrist, moderate corporate candidate. And then he is

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Speaker 1: up against a number of individuals who positioned themselves as

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Speaker 1: being the sort of progressive in the race. You have

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Speaker 1: you Lean Knew, who is I think seems to be

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Speaker 1: leading the pack in terms of the sort of progressive

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Speaker 1: side of the race. You also have mondere Jones, who

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Speaker 1: of course was is a squad member, and there's an

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Speaker 1: interesting thing that happened with him too because he was

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Speaker 1: living in a different district and sort of representing a

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Speaker 1: different district. Then when they did all this redistricting, Sean

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Speaker 1: Patrick Maloney, who's the head of the d Triple C

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Speaker 1: basically bigfoot at him, came in and announced, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to run for this district now, and sorry, mondere Jones,

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Speaker 1: like you're screwed. Monde Jones decided, all right, well I'm

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Speaker 1: going to go and try to run in this other

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Speaker 1: New York City district even though he didn't really live there,

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Speaker 1: and so that's I think created issues for him. So

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Speaker 1: bottom line is you have Dan Goldman versus a bunch

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Speaker 1: of progressives who seemed to be splitting the vote at

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Speaker 1: this point, and very likely, based on the limited public

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Speaker 1: polling that we have, that Goldman ultimately prevails. So the

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Speaker 1: poll that we have out of Picks eleven, Emerson College

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Speaker 1: and the Hill conducted from August tenth August thirteenth, before

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Speaker 1: Goldman was actually endorsed by The New York Times under

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Speaker 1: very shady circumstances where they failed to reveal their direct

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Speaker 1: conflict of interest with mister Goldman, he was at twenty

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Speaker 1: two percent support. Then you had Yuleen Knew, who's an

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Speaker 1: assembly member that represents the district and has a strong

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Speaker 1: base of support in the district already at seventeen percent

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Speaker 1: in second place. She's running with the support of the

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Speaker 1: Working Families Party and local progressive elected officials. Then you

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Speaker 1: had Carlina Rivera at thirteen percent, who also has some

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Speaker 1: local elected officials, political clubs and labor groups. And then

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Speaker 1: you have also Mandar Jones also at thirteen percent. So

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Speaker 1: it's a bit of a wide open race, especially since

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Speaker 1: you have very limited public polling. But as I said,

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Speaker 1: it kind of looks like what happened here is the

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Speaker 1: left didn't get their act together, they didn't consolidate behind

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Speaker 1: one candidate, and so you're very it's very possible that

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Speaker 1: Dan Goldman ultimately wins this one. Yeah, it's interesting, I

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Speaker 1: mean Goldman in particular. Right, it's just like the perfect

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Speaker 1: commentary on where exactly that we are today, Like the

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Speaker 1: multi millionaire Yale lawyer who's famous for literally only one reason,

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Speaker 1: and that is, you know, trying to impeach Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: and not even actually succeeding and do so. Right, Yet

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Speaker 1: they're like, he prosecuted his case so effectively. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: he didn't win, so I don't even know. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like that much of a victory to me. However,

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Speaker 1: turned himself into a legitimate hero. Now he wants to

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Speaker 1: be a congressman. I mean, who doesn't, Right, it's a

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Speaker 1: nice job apparently, And so now he's at the very

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Speaker 1: top of this primary. He got the New York Times

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Speaker 1: to endorse him, Trump himself even endorsement. Oh that's just Rightlys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trump was gave a tongue. He's like, I fully endorse

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Speaker 1: Dan Goldman. He's like, is my complete and total endorsement,

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Speaker 1: Like this is a ploy by Donald Trump, and like

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Speaker 1: why we have to throw him in jail immediately, and

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Speaker 1: actually his opponents we're using it against him, which I

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Speaker 1: do think is pretty humorous. Yeah, in general, I would too.

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Speaker 1: Look I think, yeah, yeah, I mean, screw this guy. Fine, Look,

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably gonna win. Unfortunately. I mean he'll

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Speaker 1: be what a replacement level like dem resistant standard, totally

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Speaker 1: standard issue forgettable de Congress, And that's what he will

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Speaker 1: be if Usella just got a new customer. Now, I

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Speaker 1: do want to say, like it is far from certain

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Speaker 1: that he ends up prevailing here, just because we do

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Speaker 1: have really limited polling. It's hard to you know, figure

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Speaker 1: out what exactly is going to happen. And as I said,

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Speaker 1: it seems like of the progressives you lean knew who

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Speaker 1: right now represents sort of around the Chinatown area is

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Speaker 1: UH seems to have the strongest support. So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: There still is some drama here as to how it

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Speaker 1: ultimately plays out, but it's looking like it's shaking out

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Speaker 1: that the progressives divided the vote and amongst themselves and

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Speaker 1: allowing mister Goldman, with his Levi Strauss fortune, who will

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Speaker 1: be one of the wealthiest members of Congress, which is

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Speaker 1: something a wealthy group abound that he ultimately gets elected. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's the first one. The second one is this

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Speaker 1: is a really interesting one. So they used to have

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Speaker 1: districts that one of them was sort of like centered

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Speaker 1: in the upper west side of Manhattan. The other one

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Speaker 1: was centered the Upper east Side. The Upper west Side

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Speaker 1: was Jerry Nadler, the Upper east Side was Carolyn Maloney. Well,

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Speaker 1: they decide instead to sort of like divide the city

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Speaker 1: in half and have the Upper east Side and the

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Speaker 1: Upper west Side in one district. And now you have

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Speaker 1: Jerry Nadler and Carolyn Maloney, both of whom are very

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Speaker 1: senior members of the Democratic Caucus, going up against each other.

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Speaker 1: And there's a third candidate in the race as well,

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Speaker 1: Saraj Patel, who's previously challenged Carolyn Maloney and actually came

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Speaker 1: very very close to defeating her. And there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of there was actual election ballot issues in that

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Speaker 1: race that may have denied him victory ultimately. But so

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Speaker 1: you've got a three way race here as far as

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Speaker 1: I can tell, I think it's more likely that either

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Speaker 1: Nadler or Maloney prevail. They seem to be getting most

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Speaker 1: of the media attention here, although Suraje Pateel is doing

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Speaker 1: his damnist to try to break through. But it has

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Speaker 1: gotten ugly between Maloney and Nadler. Who are you know

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Speaker 1: colleagues and I presume have had a decent relationship throughout

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Speaker 1: the years that's gotten for this media article. Upon the screen,

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Speaker 1: Carolyn Maloney says, you know that these reporters should check

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Speaker 1: out a New York Post editorial about Jerry Nadler. She says,

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Speaker 1: they call him se nile. They cite his performance at

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Speaker 1: the debate where he couldn't even remember who he impeached.

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Speaker 1: He said he impeached Bush. So the actual quote from

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Speaker 1: the Post editorial board was that Nadler during the August

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Speaker 1: tenth debate quote exposed himself as this close to senile

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Speaker 1: by saying impeach form President George W. Bush. He was

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Speaker 1: attempting to reference his vote to impeach former President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Carolyn Maloney has also made some very eyebrow raising comments

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Speaker 1: in this race that may call into question her own

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Speaker 1: mental state, and these are both, you know, relatively older

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Speaker 1: people that we're talking about here. With regards to Maloney

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Speaker 1: and Nadler, first in a debate, they were both asked

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Speaker 1: everybody on the stage was asked, you know, would you

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Speaker 1: support President Biden. Nadler basically dodges and she says, it's

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Speaker 1: not understanding he's not running again, to which everyone was like,

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Speaker 1: wait what. Sarage Patel has tried to make hay out

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Speaker 1: of the fact that, you know, neither one of them

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Speaker 1: sort of just affirmatively backed Biden. Then in her interview

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Speaker 1: with the New York Times editorial Board, they ask for

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Speaker 1: this again and she says, off the record, it's my

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Speaker 1: understanding he's not running again, and they're like, that's for

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Speaker 1: how an editorial board interview works. They're like, no, this

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Speaker 1: is all on the record. It's all on the record,

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Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, then, you know, I we'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens or something like that. So anyway, they're not

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Speaker 1: sending their best. But it's been an interesting sort of

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Speaker 1: mudslinging fight between these two incumbents, and with Sarage Patel

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Speaker 1: as listen, you never know when because things get ugly

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Speaker 1: between the top two contender, someone sneaks through, So I

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Speaker 1: guess that's the case for him, certainly possible, no idea Schumer.

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Speaker 1: Actually is interesting to me that Schumer came in and

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Speaker 1: outright indoors just because Maroni and Schumer are I mean, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Maroney and Nadler are both you know, like New York

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Speaker 1: war horses. They're like very old. They've been around for decas,

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Speaker 1: been around forever on the scene. So I think the

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Speaker 1: fact that at the time, I mean, I guess the

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Speaker 1: Times coming in and Schumer actually coming in for Nadler

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Speaker 1: was the biggest surprise. And I actually think it might

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Speaker 1: have been a move by the White House and by

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Speaker 1: dem leadership against Carol Maroney where you're like, hey, you

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Speaker 1: should have kept your mouth shut about Joe Biden. They're

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Speaker 1: like and if you're not going to toe the line,

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Speaker 1: They're like, we're gonna knife you. Now, I'm not even

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Speaker 1: kniking in the back, We'll stab you in the front.

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Speaker 1: It for crossing us. It was shocking, right well, I

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Speaker 1: mean Nadler didn't back them in, though, I mean it was.

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Speaker 1: This was shocking. This really is shocking because Biden is

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Speaker 1: the incommon president and these are this is a deep

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Speaker 1: blue district the Republican doesn't stand a chance. So it's

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Speaker 1: not like you see some of these centrist types who

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Speaker 1: don't want to say how they feel about Biden. In fact,

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Speaker 1: in one of the upstate like sort of swing seats

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Speaker 1: that is up today as well, the candidate there was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say whether I back Biden now

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Speaker 1: that you can see the political logic, yeah, because they're

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Speaker 1: trying to win over Republican's Biden's deeply unpopular. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: see what's going on there here. There's not a lot

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Speaker 1: of like political logic behind not supporting Biden. And to

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Speaker 1: have two senior members of the Democratic Caucus who hold,

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Speaker 1: you know, relatively senior like leadership positions because they've been

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Speaker 1: there for sodam long, to have both of them be like, eh,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really going to dive into that. I don't

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Speaker 1: really want to say. That's pretty extraordinary, very interesting there.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going to come of that.

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Speaker 1: I will say, having been around I've been around both

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Speaker 1: Jerry Nadler and Carolyn Maloney. It might be a low bar,

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Speaker 1: but I would say he is more cogent than she is.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to go down the who's more senile roots?

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Speaker 1: Are you talking about eight year olds? Hey, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: all slim pickag Yeah indeed. Okay. So the next one

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Speaker 1: that is interesting that I referenced earlier is New York

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Speaker 1: Times seventeen. Let's go ahead and put this one up

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Speaker 1: on the screen, so they say, this is the New

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Speaker 1: York primary being watched by aoc Pelosi and the Clinton's

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Speaker 1: all right, Sean Patrick Maloney, who I think many of

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Speaker 1: his colleagues would agree, is a tremendous asshole. They immediately

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Speaker 1: after the new district lines were announced, he jumps in

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Speaker 1: and basically bigfoots Mondere Jones in the district that Mondere

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Speaker 1: you know, represents the bulk of and is like, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to run here. And the reason that he did

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Speaker 1: it is because it's a slightly bluer district than the

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Speaker 1: one that it would have been logical for him to

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Speaker 1: run in. So he jumps into this race because he

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Speaker 1: thinks this is an easier path for me to get

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Speaker 1: back into back into Congress. Now, the other thing that

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Speaker 1: is really not just about that and really sort of

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Speaker 1: pathetic is the fact that Sean Patrick Maloney is actually

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Speaker 1: in charge of the Democrats' efforts to hold the House.

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Speaker 1: So if he is not even confident enough in his

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Speaker 1: is like Biden plus seven or something, the one that

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Speaker 1: would have been logical for him to run in, and

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Speaker 1: he wants to jump over to this one that's like

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Speaker 1: Biden plus eleven. Kind of a pathetic sign of how

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Speaker 1: things are going under his leadership of Democrats' attempts to

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Speaker 1: hold the House. So anyway that'll shake down. Mandy Jones

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Speaker 1: goes and runs in the district we already talked about.

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Speaker 1: But Sean Patrick Maloney does face a challenger from the left.

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Speaker 1: He's a very centrist, corporate Democrat, Alissandra Biaggi, who's kind

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Speaker 1: of a rising star in terms of the Democratic left.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got Maloney backed by Pelosi, backed by Bill Clinton,

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Speaker 1: and this is I think the district that Chappaqua is in.

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Speaker 1: It's like Westchester County and the Hudson Valley. Alisandra is Biaggi,

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Speaker 1: who's a state senator. She defeated a kind of came

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Speaker 1: out of nowhere, defeated powerful incumbent in twenty eighteen, so

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Speaker 1: that gave her a big footprint. She has the support

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Speaker 1: of AOC and some other a bunch of progressive organizations,

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Speaker 1: working family Families, Party and things like that. Now, I

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Speaker 1: think Biaggi has struggled to raise money. Sean Patrick Maloney

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Speaker 1: has been a wash in cash. He's been up on

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Speaker 1: the airwave. She hasn't been. All indications are that he

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Speaker 1: kind of has this thing sewed up, so it looks

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Speaker 1: like his ploy is going to work. And also, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Westchester County and Hudson Valley, these are not leftist, Yeah exactly,

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Speaker 1: these are not leftist areas. I'm sure there are plenty

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Speaker 1: of progressives there, especially among younger people, but this is more.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is Hillary Clinton turf. She won this

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Speaker 1: The only reason she's staying out of this she actually

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Speaker 1: I think officiated Byagi's wedding, but they made sure to

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Speaker 1: get the husband involved, a signal where the Clinton's heart

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Speaker 1: really lies. So that's what that one looks like. Again,

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Speaker 1: with these primaries, you never know. She could pull off

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Speaker 1: a shocking upset, an AOC type upset win over Sean

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Speaker 1: Patrick Maloney. But the sort of fundrate raising disparity alone

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Speaker 1: augurs against that outcome actually occurring. It's not looking good necessarily.

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Speaker 1: But again, you know, here's the other thing too. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: it's not like we can just tell you exactly what

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Speaker 1: happened to take weeks in order to count votes in

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Speaker 1: the state of New York, which is insane. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: think the most noteworthy thing, as you were saying about

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Speaker 1: Patrick Maloney, is that he used the D triple chead

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Speaker 1: and still outright his knife to one of his own colleagues.

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Speaker 1: His own neck was on the line, which you know

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Speaker 1: probably not collegial. Well, and also, you're the guy who

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Speaker 1: supposedly like knows how to win in these swing districts,

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Speaker 1: but you're like terrified of you know, an actually swing district.

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Speaker 1: You can't even put yourself in that sort of jeopardy.

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Speaker 1: It's it's pathetic ultimately. And yesterday he literally yesterday was

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Speaker 1: on Fox and they're like, hey, do you see the

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Speaker 1: moral problem with running against th rest of democracy and

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Speaker 1: then spending millions of dollars behind Republicans who will pro

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Speaker 1: stop the steal in GOP primaries. He said, no, we

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Speaker 1: have a moral imperative to do so so that we

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Speaker 1: can defeat them. So literally, yesow so maybe voters there

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Speaker 1: will take notice, although something tells me that they're of

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Speaker 1: the cringe variety who probably loves something. Yeah, well Biagi

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Speaker 1: has tried to make, you know, make a lot out

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Speaker 1: liberal Democrats were also upset about this move. So that

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Speaker 1: has been one of her attacks on sewn Patrick Maloney.

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Speaker 1: But again she does not have the money so be

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Speaker 1: on the airwaves, so that makes it difficult to make

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Speaker 1: the case. She also adds a bunch of money from

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Speaker 1: the what is it called the Fraternal Police Organization. The

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Speaker 1: police union have come in against her because of her

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Speaker 1: comments about defunding the police, and so that has been

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Speaker 1: up on the airwaves sort of defining her. But she

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Speaker 1: hasn't really been able to respond, at least in paid communication.

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Speaker 1: So that's the way that one is shaking out. I

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Speaker 1: do want to mention to tomorrow. We don't normally have

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Speaker 1: a show, but I'm going to interview Dan Maren's of

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Speaker 1: the HUFFNYM Post, who is really deeply knowledgeable and has

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Speaker 1: been following all of these primaries in extraordinary, extraordinary detail.

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Speaker 1: He actually has an article up right now about John

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Speaker 1: Patrick Maloney and Alessandra Biagi. So I'm going to talk

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Speaker 1: to him tomorrow, so you'll get to get whatever we

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Speaker 1: know about these primaries, whether they have been called yet

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Speaker 1: or not. Well, have a reaction video. It'll be here

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Speaker 1: on the channel for premium subs. Of course, we'll email

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Speaker 1: it to you, and if it's long enough, we'll make

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Speaker 1: it available on the podcast feed too to everybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to standalone products. Okay, The last one I want to

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Speaker 1: get into is in some ways the most interesting. We

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Speaker 1: have been tracking a number of these special elections, and

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Speaker 1: in several instances, Democrats have outperformed their polls, and even

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Speaker 1: in cases where you know they don't end up pulling

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Speaker 1: special elections where Biden is the Republicans have been underperforming

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Speaker 1: where Trump was in those districts. So this has been

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Speaker 1: seen by some political observers as a potential indication that

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Speaker 1: Republican momentum is flagging, that Democratic support may be not

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Speaker 1: only on the rise, but somewhat underestimated by the polling.

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Speaker 1: We saw this certainly in the Kansas ballot initiative as well,

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Speaker 1: and so in New York nineteen. You have an upstate

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Speaker 1: New York district that is truly, truly a swing district,

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Speaker 1: like it goes for republic and it goes for a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: I think Biden won it by like a point in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Biden won it by a point and a half. So

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Speaker 1: this is as swingy as an area as it possibly

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Speaker 1: as you possibly could get. And you have two relatively

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Speaker 1: high quality candidates in terms of having established bases in

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Speaker 1: this district. Republican Mark Malonaro. He is the executive in

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Speaker 1: Duchess County, and you've got Democrat Pat Ryan, he is

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Speaker 1: the executive in Ulster County. You also have, making this

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Speaker 1: even more interesting, the Republican has leaned one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: Democrat Pat Ryan has leaned nearly one hundred percent into

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Speaker 1: a message about abortion. So not only do you have

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Speaker 1: this you know, okay, who's showing up Democrat Republican, but

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Speaker 1: you also have which message is actually effective right now? Now,

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Speaker 1: the dynamics of this are a little bit weird. The

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Speaker 1: winner here is only going to win four months in office.

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Speaker 1: This seat became open because Democrats elevated Antonio Delgado to

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Speaker 1: be New York's Lieutenant governor after Cuomo Zon and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. So and then the next time that they

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Speaker 1: run for this seat, it will actually be totally different

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Speaker 1: to storing lines. So it really is just important as

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Speaker 1: like a bellweather of democratic and Republican sentiment. So that

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Speaker 1: is another one to watch. And again, one of the

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Speaker 1: other things that's interesting about this area is this is

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Speaker 1: a part of the state that has seen tens of

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Speaker 1: thousands of New York City residents move into the area

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Speaker 1: post COVID, basically fleeing the city and moving here, especially

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Speaker 1: as they're able to work remotely. So there's also a

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Speaker 1: question over whether those new residents, tens of thousands of

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Speaker 1: them who move to this area might sort of shake

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Speaker 1: up the political dynamic here as well. Yeah, Ryan's interesting candidate.

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Speaker 1: You know, we graduate from West Point. If somebody's kind

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Speaker 1: of been at the top of the field. Molinaro also

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Speaker 1: is actually pretty well known, so it's they actually have

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Speaker 1: a pretty equal amount of like national or state profile.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the influx of the NYC residents actually probably

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Speaker 1: could change everything from the twenty twenty actual election results

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Speaker 1: and what of course make abortion much more salient, but regardless,

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Speaker 1: it will be a very very good test case for

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Speaker 1: everything that we look at generic overperformance. If it's Biden

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Speaker 1: five points, you're like, hey, that's crazy. But also, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Youngkin was a real harbinger of the political climate for

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Speaker 1: what basically a year or six months or so after

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Speaker 1: he was elected. So that's why these things, of course

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Speaker 1: matter the most. They can tell us a lot about

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Speaker 1: where things are trending, and it's a good message by

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Speaker 1: message test. Also in terms of GOP enthusiasm, people still

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Speaker 1: order to come out and vote no against Biden or

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Speaker 1: the Biden agenda, or like the general feeling of how

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Speaker 1: things are going. So it'll be really interesting to watch

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Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, and just a couple of other little notes.

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Speaker 1: As you're watching returns tonight, there is another special election

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Speaker 1: in a different district that is very hard Republican. But

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Speaker 1: this is another one where you could watch the margin.

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Speaker 1: Trump won this district by eleven points, so if the

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Speaker 1: Democrat outperforms, that would be another indication. If they underperform,

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Speaker 1: that would be a different indication. And you do have

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Speaker 1: is probably the Democratic primary for governor. It's Nicky Freed,

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Speaker 1: who I think is the agriculture secretary versus Charlie Chris.

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Speaker 1: Freed is running as more of like the She's running

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Speaker 1: more as the progressive. He's running more as the establishment.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see how that shakes out. And I think

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Speaker 1: most people expect Chris to win, but we will see.

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Speaker 1: You never know until they actually vote. It'll be fun. Yeah. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: whoever they do will face the Santists who maybe we

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Speaker 1: should talk on Thursday about his new cringe ad, which

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Speaker 1: we can. Oh, what's the cringe ad? I didn't see it.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's not even tell people. All right, you want

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Speaker 1: me to watch it live then reacts. I'll see that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday some big movements in the stock markets. Let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and put this up on the screen. So

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Speaker 1: Wall Street stumbled Monday, extending last week's sell off as

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Speaker 1: rate increases ahead of the Federal Reserves Annual Economic Symposium.

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Speaker 1: They say that dowsings more than six hundred points as

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess this is what is going on,

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Speaker 1: but I do love the way these analysts assign like

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Speaker 1: it is this morning. You know, we're recording this early

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Speaker 1: in the markets aren't open yet, but futures were up,

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Speaker 1: so it's like, Okay, well, I guess, I guess now

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Speaker 1: they're comfortable without whatever Jerome pal is going to say. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Dow Jones Industrial Average finished the day down six hundred

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Speaker 1: they said June. And what they do point to is

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Speaker 1: the all the Federal Reserve people are meeting in Jackson Hole.

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Speaker 1: They do this every year. This isn't like one of

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Speaker 1: But this is where investors watch very closely what comments

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Speaker 1: some indications, some tea leaves of where things are ultimately

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Speaker 1: going to come. So they say the gathering is set

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Speaker 1: for Monday's market. Jitters, commics. FED officials are preparing to

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Speaker 1: gather in Jackson Hole for their annual economic symposium. Investors

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Speaker 1: are keenly interested in what Jerome Powell might have to

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Speaker 1: Let's put this next piece up on the screen. The

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Speaker 1: Federal Reserves Jackson Hole meeting could shake up markets in

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Speaker 1: And I did some digging into some of the specifics

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Speaker 1: about the Jackson Hole meeting. Only about one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty people attend the event every year, but the papers

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Speaker 1: and speeches which are released, which are made public, as

853
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: well as media engagements by policymakers have made the Kansas

854
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 1: City Fed's Economic Policy Symposium a landmark event for FED

855
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: watchers and investors tuned in from AFAR. And you know,

856
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: we did have some indications that maybe inflation was possibly

857
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: easing up. Certainly gas prices have come down, which has

858
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: been significant, although prices are still way way too high.

859
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: So there's an open question of whether the FED is

860
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: just going to continue marching forward with a very aggressive

861
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: policy of rate increases which could trigger a recession, is

862
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: certainly going to create a lot of pain for you,

863
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: or whether they might say, you know what, let's hang

864
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,479
Speaker 1: back and see what's going on here, which of course

865
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: is the outcome than Yeah, that's the major question. I mean,

866
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: nobody really knows. The real issue too, is the global climate,

867
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: which is not good. I mean, even you know what

868
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: we're dealing with here in the US. Power prices in

869
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: Europe continue every day when you wake up, it's up

870
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: by like six or seven percent. It's actually difficult to comprehend.

871
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: So we not only have to balance our own inflation

872
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: and what our monetary policy is, but also consider that

873
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: I think the euro yesterday reached point ninety seven in

874
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: terms of parody to the dollar, so below a one

875
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: to one. I mean, that hasn't happened in wow long time,

876
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: and maybe even in the history of the entire euro

877
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: unprecedented in terms of the European economy. Haven't done as

878
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: much recently. Maybe we should return to the gas markt

879
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: and all that, because even though petroleum is down, natural

880
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: gas continues to go absolutely wild, and there's a lot

881
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: of problems just in general market wise, because outside of

882
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: the FED, this is not only what they point to,

883
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: but China, we've seen a slow down there energy Shanghai

884
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: today they said, oh, skyscrapers, you have to turn your

885
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: lights off for two whole days because we don't have

886
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: enough power. I mean, that's crazy. This is supposed to

887
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: be the next silicon valley, like tech center of all

888
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: of China. There's like thirty million people who live in

889
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: the city. That's happening. There's been real estate bubbles in issues,

890
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: so market demand and plus COVID zero Europe, we've got

891
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: like a general recessionary feeling amongst the American public. Consumer

892
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: spending going down, even though the gas prices have gone

893
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: down a little bit, you know, down to I think

894
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: three eighty five yesterday is the national average. On top

895
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: of that, the FED too, though this is always the

896
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: issue with their policy. They can't do anything about the

897
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: current inflation. The current inflation has almost nothing to do

898
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: with any of that. All they can continue to do

899
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: is continue to hammer global demand down. I tried to

900
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: induce more unemployment and more of a recession, and I mean,

901
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: I guess it's working. You know, consumer spending is going down.

902
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: Credit card debt I believe. I think he sent twenty

903
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: year high. Yes, I want to say that we're twenty

904
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: year high of a new credit card debt amassed in

905
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: just the last six months. So the last thing people

906
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: need is some sort of recession. So we could both

907
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: crash the market and you could crash consumer demand. I

908
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: don't even know how you climb out of a hole

909
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, a long time. That's exactly right. So

910
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: it'd be important to see what they say at this meeting.

911
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: I think that's why there's a little bit of drama

912
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: and suspense, because I mean, the FED. You really cannot

913
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: overstate how significant what the FED does is for the economy,

914
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: is for the housing market, is for the stock market.

915
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: And as we always say, you may not have benefited

916
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: on the way up, but you will get hurt on

917
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: the way down. So continue to watch that. Yeah, that's

918
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: absolutely correct. Okay, let's talk about Russia and the fallout

919
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: from the murder of Alexander Dugan. He's kind of a

920
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: Russian public intellectual. The murder not of him, but of

921
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: his daughter. Recently, she died in a car bombs outside

922
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: of Moscow. There were some reports that Dugan himself was

923
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be in the vehicle and decided not to

924
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: go anyway. Her death has caused a lot of consternation

925
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: inside of Russia, but more in terms of what the

926
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: fallout from said assassination will be. So let's go ahead

927
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: and put this up there on the screen that Russia

928
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: is now claiming that the so called Dugan bomber has

929
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: escaped to Estonia. They say, quote, if the Kremlin decides

930
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: to confront Estonia by backing up its demand for the

931
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: extradition of the alleged suspect with threats, it will put

932
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: Russia on a collision course with a NATO state. I

933
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: think that is exactly why this matters so much. So again,

934
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: to recap, the FFSB is kind of the Russian successor

935
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: with the KGB, FBI, CIA, whatever, all rolled into one.

936
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: They say that they solve the murder almost immediately. They're like, oh,

937
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: we know exactly who this is. It's a Ukrainian woman.

938
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: She fled to Estonia. Here's all these pictures that we

939
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: have of her. Did this with her twelve year old

940
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: and then she fled to Estonia after she followed her along.

941
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: They've got picked the immediate They were like, we know

942
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: exactly who. It is a little bit suspicious as to

943
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: how exactly that happened, but it just so happens that

944
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: that person they claim is connected to the Ukrainian Secret Service,

945
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: and they're like, actually, this is all in Ukraine, and

946
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: now this is perhaps a pretext in order to escalate

947
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: against Ukraine. And also the Estonia part is very scary too.

948
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Obviously Estonia is a NATO ally of the United States,

949
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: so we have to watch this all very closely. Let's

950
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: throw the next one up there. As I said, the

951
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: Russians already officially accusing the Ukrainian Special Services of actually

952
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: organizing the killing of Alexander Dugan's daughter, and in terms

953
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: of the cry out in Moscow itself, there does seem

954
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: to be state TV and others echoing these accusations. As

955
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: far as Dugan, we tried to explain this yesterday, it's

956
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: kind of complicated, which is that he is not, you know,

957
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: the brainchild of Putin. He's actually very influential here in

958
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: the West because he knows how to speak English, and

959
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of cultivated Western public intellectuals to

960
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: try and take him a little bit more seriously. He's

961
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: even been fired at times by Putin himself and ostracized

962
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: away from the regime. But at his core, he's kind

963
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: of a revanist of the Russian Czardom, and he wants

964
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: to restore the Russian Empire and like preserve like the

965
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: Russian people and seize themselves, very very distinct from Europe itself,

966
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: and a real antagonist both for he wanted to split.

967
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: I think I did a whole monologue on this a

968
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: couple of months ago, if anyone's interested. But he wrote

969
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: a book in like the nineties where he's like, Russian

970
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: policy should have three goals. Number one, split Britain away

971
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: from the rest of the EU. And this again, this

972
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: was written in the nineties. Number two, Russia should invade Georgia,

973
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: and number three Russia should retake Ukraine. So all three

974
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 1: of those things actually did happen. Now, as I mentioned

975
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: before the monologue, the people who are the Russia Gate,

976
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: basically level people in Britain like to point to that

977
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: first one as evidence that it's Russia's fault. That the EU. Yeah, exactly,

978
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: they like Brexit was a Russian plot. They have their

979
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: own Russia Gate version over there, but put that aside,

980
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: the other two actually did happen. So Putin is the

981
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: very least like familiar with this thinking, and some of

982
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: his books are recommended. Now. The reason why that matters

983
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: is that now that he is much more of a

984
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: cause celeb in Russia, he's a sympathetic figure. His daughter

985
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: was killed. Not only is he justifying the initial invasion

986
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: of Ukraine, his daughter was as well, but after his

987
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: daughter was killed, now, let's pull this up there. Immediately

988
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: he comes out and he says that we need to

989
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: have revenge against Ukraine and for Russia to push on

990
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: in its invasion. And in what they discuss here specifically

991
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: is that he wants increased brutality and increase of increase

992
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: of an invasion within Ukraine. And all of this comes

993
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: ahead of reporting just a couple of weeks ago that

994
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: Putin in terms of his phase of the campaign and

995
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: what they're all looking at and US intelligence is effectively

996
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: confirm this is that they want to actually step up

997
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: and intensify attacks not only on Ukraine and its civilian infrastructure,

998
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: but specifically on the port city of Odessa. Odessa is

999
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, port from the Black Sea. It's where Ukraine

1000
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: has exported the vast majority of its grain to the world.

1001
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: If Russia does can take possession of that on top

1002
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: of Crimea, they not only have much more maritime control,

1003
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: but they cut Ukraine off from arguably the most important

1004
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: economic you know, lifeline that they even have, considering that

1005
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: it's like vast majority of their exports and GDP. So

1006
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: what we actually know is that this is all happening

1007
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: right ahead of that putin looking for a way to

1008
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: message the wars, we approach the official six month anniversary,

1009
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: and then actually Ukrainian Independence Day is coming up soon,

1010
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,479
Speaker 1: and so the US intelligence is actually leaking. They're like, hey,

1011
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: you guys need to prepare. They are planning major attacks

1012
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: on civilian infrastructure. They say that the intensification is going

1013
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: to come right not only in that port area, but

1014
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: also in terms of trying to batten down Ukrainian morale

1015
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: ahead of this. So if you were of the school

1016
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: of thought that this is some like planned attack by

1017
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: Russian authorities and a to you know, some sort of

1018
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: like two for one deal in order to make people

1019
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: more sympathetic. It wouldn't be a bad time. I'm not,

1020
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm not. We have no idea. Yeah, it wouldn't put

1021
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: it past the FSB in the Kremlin. Also wouldn't put

1022
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: it past some people who are in the opposition. You know,

1023
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: It's not like she was beloved by everybody in Russia, right, Yeah, No,

1024
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean we may never know who actually, you know,

1025
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: planted this car bomb. And also important to remember, like

1026
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: Dugan himself was supposed to be in this car so

1027
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: a lot of speculation that he was really the intended

1028
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: target here, which is even more inflammatory of an action,

1029
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: provocative of an action. Could have been the Ukrainians, could

1030
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: be some internal Russian resistance, you know, Partisans could be

1031
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: the sort of direct like Putin allies could be hardliners

1032
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: who want to force Putin's hand into exactly the actions

1033
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: that Dugan is pushing for now. All the act attack

1034
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: and active terror, which I think is fair to say

1035
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: that had been quote carried out by the Nazi Ukrainian regime.

1036
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: Not fair to say. And then he said, our hearts

1037
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: yearn for more than just revenge or retribution. We only

1038
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: need our victory. My daughter laid her maiden life on

1039
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: its altar, so win please. The specific calls that are

1040
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: coming on you know, Russian state TV are for things

1041
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: like attacking Ukrainian government buildings and going directly after officials

1042
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: in Kiev, going after their security apparatus in Kiev. So

1043
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, if if your goal was to strengthen the

1044
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: hardliner stance and put pressure on Putin to go even

1045
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: further and commit even you know, further atrocities and what

1046
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: he's already done, that seems to be the direction that

1047
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: at least the hardliners are trying to take this in

1048
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: seems likely. I mean, all of this again just points

1049
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: to even more like Chechen Civil War two point zero,

1050
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: which is that the initial response doesn't work, then they

1051
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: start to go scorched to earth. They try and figure

1052
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: out how exactly they change their military personnel and what

1053
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: exactly the strategy will be, and then grind into attrition

1054
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: unfortunately major consequences of the world for Russia and sadly

1055
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: for the Ukrainians. And I read a terrible story about

1056
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: these guys who are working in the nuclear power plant

1057
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: literally at gunpoint and are the only Ukrainians and the

1058
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: Russians have guns in their head and They're like, you

1059
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: better have this plant going up. And they use these

1060
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: nuclear power plants kind of as shields to make sure

1061
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: because nobody can fire against them, right, and they're too afraid.

1062
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: It's just a try because look, they need the power

1063
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Speaker 1: and the it's also a way in order to control

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Speaker 1: and manipulate Ukraine. So we're entering only that phase of

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00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: the campaign, and I just you know, we talked about

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00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: this in the stocks block, but the energy crisis is

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00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: still real. It's you know, we're starting to get to fall.

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Speaker 1: Things in Europe are starting to get cold. The colder

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Speaker 1: and colder it gets, the more Russian gas they're gonna need.

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Speaker 1: They may not have ac but they do all need

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Speaker 1: heating in their houses, and come that time, we could

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Speaker 1: see major major crunch by the Russians in an outrighteous

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00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: cut off of gas in that area, which would induce

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Speaker 1: a genuine global crisis if something like that happened. So

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Speaker 1: that is, do not rule that out whatsoever. Really now

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Speaker 1: could be just a transitional period in the future of

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Speaker 1: the war. All right, let's talk about Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: Chris All. I'm gonna need your help with this one,

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00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: just because so much has literally in the last twelve hours.

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00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy, all right. So let's start first

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Speaker 1: with a lawsuit filed by President Trump. Let's put this

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Speaker 1: up there on the screen. So here's what happened. President

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00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: Trump filed this lawsuit to block the Department of Justice

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00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: from actually reviewing any of the materials that the FBI

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Speaker 1: sees at mar Lago until a watchdog is appointed. That

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00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: watchdog would be known as a quote special master. And effectively,

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Speaker 1: what a special master does is there like an independent

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00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: person who is appointed in a criminal case where there

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Speaker 1: is a concern that material should not be viewed by

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Speaker 1: investigators because it protected by attorney client privilege or other

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00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: factors that weigh against it being used in the prosecution.

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00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: So they're pointing not only to attorney client privilege, but

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Speaker 1: as to the other factors being highly classified documents the

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00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: Presidential Records Act. There's all sorts of crazy executive power

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00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: law implications for how exactly this is going to go.

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00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: It's possible this could actually even work its way up

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Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court, because this is in the US

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Speaker 1: District Court for the Southern District of Florida in the

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00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: federal level. So there's a lot of interesting stuff going

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00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: on in terms of the Fourth Amendment, seizure, Presidential Records Act,

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00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: executive power, etc. Yeah. Effect. In my opinion, I think

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00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: it's a reasonable request. Yeah. I agree, used a special

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00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: master in other cases with Rudy Julian. Yes, so this

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00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: is not like a crazy request from the Trump team. Yeah,

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00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: absolutely So. The lawsuit itself, though, kind of sets up

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00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: the ground for what exactly the Trump's strategy is here,

1107
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: which is that they're saying this is a violation, that

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00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: this is going past the limits of you know, and

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00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: actually beyond executive power mistreatment, and that this is a

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00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 1: special case devoid of anything of the previous three laws

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00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: that were cited, and it's not your standard classified information

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00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,760
Speaker 1: kind of criminal case. So I think that's kind of

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00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: a good law sum up of the lawsuit. The DOJ

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00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: itself has responded, They're like, we're reviewing what the lawsuit

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00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: itself says, and that will expect her to be paddled

1116
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: in court. So I think that is number one a

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: pretty significant development. But number two is actually something that

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00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: broke last night, which is that actually, let's throw E

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00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: three up there on the screen please, because Donald Trump

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00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: actually issued a response himself. Here's what he said. He

1121
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: said that it was a quote major motion and they

1122
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: are strongly asserting his rights and claiming that evidence was planted.

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Speaker 1: He says that they demanded the security cameras be turned off,

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00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: a request that we rightfully denied. They requested my properentities

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00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: from observing from being taken in the raid, saying no.

1126
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: They took documents covered by attorney client and executive privilege,

1127
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: which is not allowed. They took my passports, and they

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00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: even bought a safe cracker and successfully broke into my

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00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: personal safe. We are now demanding the DOJ be instructed

1130
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: to immediately stop the review of documents illegally sees. We

1131
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: demand the appointment of a special master. We are further

1132
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: demanding the DOJ be forced to turn over a real,

1133
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: without quote plants inventory of my property that was taken

1134
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: and disclosed where that property is now located. We are

1135
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: demanding all items wrongfully taken from my home be immediately returned,

1136
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: so claiming planting. But what I love about this response

1137
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: is it checks all the boxes of every box. Their responses,

1138
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: He's like, I would I would have Why did you

1139
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: just ask I was given you these documents? I don't

1140
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: understand what all the fuss is about right, and then

1141
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: like two sentences later, he's like, these documents are mine

1142
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: and I want them all back. And then you know,

1143
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: he goes ahead and there is in there that oh

1144
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: and actually there aren't even documents that we're just planted

1145
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: by the RBI. So he does does all the defences

1146
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: in one statement here, classic Trump. Yeah, but now he

1147
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: can always say that he was vindicated. And then actually,

1148
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: what broke even later last night is a report we

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00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: don't have an element for this, but about Trump had

1150
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: more than three hundred classified documents at mar Lago. So

1151
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: this comes from a disclosure that the National Archives found

1152
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: more than one hundred and fifty sensitive documents when it

1153
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: first got the batch of materials from the former president

1154
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: in January of twenty twenty two. Now that is what

1155
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: then spurred the seizure of the guests rest of the

1156
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: quote unquote classified documents. Now, in terms of the documents themselves,

1157
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: are they current classified? I don't know. All we know

1158
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: in this terminology is important is quote marked as classified

1159
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: because crystal that relates to the laws of which this

1160
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: raid was justified. To the pretext in the warrant in

1161
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: the first p yes, which don't necessarily require go the

1162
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: documents to be actually classified, they just have to be

1163
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: sensitive and you know under this Presidential Records Act et cetera,

1164
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: et cetera. So there were a couple other pieces in

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00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: this latest this is a New York Times report about

1166
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, they were covered more than three hundred individual

1167
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: classified documents during three different interactions at mar A Lago

1168
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: in the last eight months, more than one hundred and

1169
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: fifty in the boxes that went to the National Archives

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Speaker 1: in January alone. This was also this was kind of

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00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: interesting to me. They say that the Justice Department they

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Speaker 1: sought a second round of footage from surveillance cameras at

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01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: mar Lago. So we already knew that they had subpoenaed

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Speaker 1: some of the surveillance footage and what was apparently used

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: to help justify the present evidence to the judge that

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01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: justified ultimately the raid. Now they're saying they subpoenaed another

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Speaker 1: round that goes through the date of the search. So

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Speaker 1: that's a new piece of information here. They also say that,

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Speaker 1: according to The Times, Trump himself is said to have

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Speaker 1: gone through the boxes in late twenty twenty one, after

1181
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: nearly a year of Archives officials trying to recover the

1182
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: material if true. If true, that is significant because it

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01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: shows his direct sort of involvement, potential intent that you

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01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: have to prove that it wasn't just like oh, carelessness

1185
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: and I forgot I had these documents, you know, these

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01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: super super top secret nuclear documents or whatever he has.

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: It shows that he was like directly involved in sorting

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01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: through and arranging these things. And they said that documents

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Speaker 1: were found in the George area and in a container

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: in a closet in his office, so they don't say

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01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: that anything was found in that safe. So that's the

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01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: latest from the New York Times reporting. Then this other

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01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: thing happened, which is I don't really totally understand it.

1194
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: But John Solomon, who actually we used to work with

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01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: at the Hill, absolutely could say a lot about that,

1196
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: but we'll save that for another day. He has he

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Speaker 1: is now one of Trump's designated representatives to the National Archives,

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Speaker 1: so he is, you know, he's a Trump ally conduit,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. And he also runs this you know, right

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Speaker 1: leaning media outlet, and so he posted a column earlier

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01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: in the day yesterday. I think that was suggesting that

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration, even though they claimed they weren't involved

1203
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: with this thing. They actually were involved in some of

1204
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: the questions over executive privilege. Then they went ahead and

1205
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: released the entire letter. They posted it to this news

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: website that set that came from the National Archives to Trump,

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01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: and they posted this like this would be some like

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01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: sort of bombshell exculpatory thing. But I don't I genuinely

1209
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: don't understand why they think that this makes him look good,

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01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: because in fact, what the letter shows is you know,

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01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: repeated efforts and inquiries and sort of like a back

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01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: and forth between the National Archives and Trump's lawyers where

1213
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: they're trying to get access to these documents. There's an

1214
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: indication of you know, documents they say we were secret

1215
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: and classified all the way up to the highest levels.

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01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: So it both sort of confirms the reporting that some

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01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: of the documents he had were at those highest highest

1218
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: levels of classification and also confirms that, you know, this

1219
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: rate didn't just come out of nowhere. They've been trying

1220
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: to get control of these documents and get them back.

1221
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's the latest piece that came out last night. Yeah,

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01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I have no idea whatsoever to make

1223
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: of that. It basically confirms that Trump may be in trouble.

1224
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: As to how this is all going to play out again,

1225
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately this will just have to drag through

1226
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: the legal system for a long time, given the executive

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: power implications a special Master. I mean, like you said,

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Speaker 1: I mean it seems reasonable enough, but more of a delay.

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01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: Then we also are still going to wait on the

1230
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: affidavit as to the extent of how much trouble Trump

1231
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: is in if he was involved. As again, you always

1232
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: got to remember anytime these stories show up in the Times,

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Speaker 1: it's sleaked by very like senior DOJ figgles figures, not

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01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,959
Speaker 1: a mistake. I think that it's the exact same people

1235
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: who had all these scoops during Russiagate, during the Maller investigation,

1236
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: so they're trying to shape things. I do think that's

1237
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: important to keep in mind is when you see reporting,

1238
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, in the Times or with NBC News, they

1239
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: have some favorite DOJ reporters over there as well. This

1240
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: is clearly this is the information they want to put

1241
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: out there. So definitely definitely keep that in mind as

1242
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: you're reading these stories, and you know, take it all

1243
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. That the is sort of

1244
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: like the government's version of events, but it is interesting

1245
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: to know the government's version of events. There's always very

1246
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: interesting to know Donald Trump's version of events here. So

1247
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: I guess the last thing to mention with regards to

1248
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: this story is the judge who's involved in all of

1249
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: this has asked the Department of Justice to submit their

1250
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: list of suggested redactions to that that affidavit which was

1251
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: used to justify then the search and your call. We

1252
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: covered this yesterday that the judge has said they want

1253
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: to try to release parts of the affid davit. They

1254
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: have gone on to say that, like you know, ultimately

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01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: with all the redactions, you may not find it all

1256
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: that useful, but we do want to try to put

1257
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: out there in the public sphere everything that we can.

1258
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: So there's a Thursday deadline for the Department of Justice

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01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: to submit their suggestions in terms of redactions, which I'm

1260
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: sure will be probably like basically everything, and then I

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: don't know how long I have no idea how long

1262
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: it will take for the judge to go through those

1263
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: and decide what's going to be released and what's ultimately

1264
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: not going to be released. So that's probably the next

1265
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: piece we are likely to get crystal. What are you taking?

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01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: A look at a recent video of a UPS driver

1267
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: collapsing in one hundred and ten degree Arizona heat has

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01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: exposed just how dangerous working conditions are for the people

1269
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: who are delivering your packages every day. So here's the video,

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01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: which was captured on a ring doorbell system. You can

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01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: see the driver here. He's walking up to the house

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Speaker 1: very sort of unsteady on his feet. He goes ahead

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01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: and places the package and then just collapses on the

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Speaker 1: front porch. He actually has to lay down trying to

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Speaker 1: recover from obvious extreme heat and potential heat stroke. Incredibly,

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Speaker 1: he actually gets up and finishes the delivery there at

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Speaker 1: the end, ringing the doorbell before he stumbles back towards

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Speaker 1: his truck, presumably to continue on to the next delivery.

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Speaker 1: It is horrible to watch, and made more horrific actually

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Speaker 1: by his determination to follow UPS package delivery protocol even

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Speaker 1: as his life is at risk. Now. In response to

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Speaker 1: massive public outrage, UPS put out on a statement saying quote,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate the concern for our employee. UPS drivers are

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Speaker 1: trained to work outdoors and for the effects of hot weather.

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Speaker 1: Our employee used his training to be aware of his

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Speaker 1: situation and contacted his manager, who immediately provided assistance. We

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Speaker 1: never want our employees to continue working to the point

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Speaker 1: that they risk their health or work in an unsafe manner.

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Speaker 1: The company has also pointed to the training they provide

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Speaker 1: to workers on how to prevent heat related injuries, things

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Speaker 1: including nutrition advice and recommendations to get a good night's sleep.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing they have and provided is the

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01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: most obvious solution, air conditioning inside of the trucks, something

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Speaker 1: that their major competitors, FedEx and Amazon both provide. Just

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01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: think about that for a second. The conditions facing UPS

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Speaker 1: drivers are so brutal that even Amazon, the company that

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Speaker 1: was caught forcing their workers into such a grinding schedule

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: they had to piss and bottles and shit in bags

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Speaker 1: to keep up the pace. Even Amazon thinks no AC

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Speaker 1: in the trucks is going too far and too inhumane,

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01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: and obviously they are. UPS drivers have literally died from

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01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: heat exhaustion because of these extreme conditions. In June, a

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01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 1: twenty four year old driver named Esteban Chavas he died

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01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: in La from what his family says was heat stroke.

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Speaker 1: In response, the teamsters union, which represents UPS workers. They've

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Speaker 1: been asking drivers to share the temperature readings from inside

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Speaker 1: of their trucks, and the results are truly shocking. Drivers

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01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: have been recording temperatures in their trucks of up to

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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty degrees. Drivers describe how the trucks

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: magnify the sun's rays, turning them into literal ovens. No

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Speaker 1: amount of driver training from UPS can prepare human beings

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Speaker 1: for work in one hundred and fifty degrees, and this

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01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 1: job is insanely challenging even in the best of conditions.

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Speaker 1: It's extremely dangerous to labor in these conditions, no matter

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01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: how many tips or corporate bosses give you about drinking

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01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 1: water and getting a good night's sleep. I'd like to

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01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: see the suits last a single day without air conditioning

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: during an Arizona summer. Meanwhile, UPS is, of course breaking

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01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: in record profits, sufficient to give their excs sad when

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01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 1: their stockholders a nice little gift through a five billion

1321
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 1: dollar stock buy back. Now, they did spend some money

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01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: to invest in the UPS trucks. They managed to cough

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: up the cash to install cameras in the trucks to

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01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: surveil their drivers, but just can't seem to be able

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01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: to find the money to install air conditioning so that

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Speaker 1: their workers can avoid the er and life threatening illness. Now,

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Speaker 1: our friends over at UPS do have one thing going

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01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: for them, though. They've got a union, the Teamsters, and

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 1: that union has new militant leadership elected specifically because of

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01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: their promise to take on the corporate bosses. The last

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01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: time the UPS contract was up in twenty eighteen, the

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Speaker 1: national Teamster's leadership, which then at that time was led

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01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: by Jimmy hoffa junior, they crammed a contract with a

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01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: bunch of concessions down membership's throat, in spite of the

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01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: fact that a majority of the members actually voted to

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01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: reject it. But that contract is now up in twenty

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: twenty three, just next year, and the new president O'Brien

1338
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: has already signaled they will be ready and willing to

1339
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,959
Speaker 1: strike if necessary in order to win a good contract,

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01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 1: and heat safety is a major priority. Needless to say,

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: if the entire UPS workforce goes on strike next that's

1342
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: going to be kind of a big deal for all

1343
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: of us. Now, heat exhaustion among UPS drivers that was

1344
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: really just the tip of the Iceberg manual laborers from

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01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: factories to farms are suffering with extreme temperatures, most without

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01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: a union to even advocate for them. In fact, Amazon

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01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: was just caught quietly installing improved AC in a New

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01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: Jersey warehouse after one of their workers, Rafael Fries, died.

1349
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: Now his coworkers in Amazon Labor union president Chris Mall's

1350
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: they all say this death was heat related. Amazon claimed

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01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: he had some unrelated personal medical condition, That's how they

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01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 1: put it. Interesting then that they felt like they needed

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01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: better AC if his death had absolutely nothing to do

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01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 1: with the heat and with climate change. Of course, these

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01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: conditions are only set to worsen. According to Axios, in

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01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: thirty years time, an extreme heat belt will emerge in

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: this nation, stretching from Texas to Illinois, and in these locales,

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,919
Speaker 1: temperatures will soar to one hundred and twenty five degrees

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01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: on at least one day per year. Currently, the number

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01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: of Americans objected to those sorts of extreme temperatures is

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: just eight million. In just a few decades, that number

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01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: is expected to balloon to one hundred and seven million.

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01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: The hottest locations in America could see stretches of seventy

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01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 1: plus days in a row with temperatures surpassing one hundred degrees. Meanwhile,

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01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: data from Europe shows that thousands were killed in that

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01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: continent's heat wave last month. In a single week, Spain

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01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: recorded one thousand, six hundred and eighty two deaths from heat,

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01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: while Portugal estimated there's at least one thousand deaths in

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01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 1: that same week. In Spain, sixty year old street sweep

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01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: are actually collapsed and died in blistering conditions, prompting natural

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01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: outrage in that country and demands for reform. Clearly, it

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01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: is long past time for air conditioning to be considered

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01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: a human right, and when lack of this essential technology

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01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: is leaving people sick and outright killing them in a

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01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: wealthy nation, there is simply no excuse for allowing workers

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01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: to be treated like this and to wonder whether going

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: to work will be a death penalty, all because some

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01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: air conditioned corporate exec decides they'd rather fatten their bank

1379
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: account than keep their workers alive. That video from UPS

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01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 1: I think pretty shocking, but it also just shows and

1381
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: if you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue,

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Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot Com all right, zago,

1383
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: what are you looking at? Well? Everyone, I hope you

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: stick with me through this one. I'm going to attempt

1385
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: the attempt to parse the story of one Andrew Tait.

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01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: If you have not heard of Andrew Taate yet, it

1387
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,599
Speaker 1: is legitimately difficult to describe to the general public. He

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01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: is an American raised in the UK who resides in Romania.

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01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: He appeared on Big Brother UK in twenty sixteen and

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01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: also has participated in kickboxing and combat sports, and at

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01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: one point was even rated on human trafficking suspicions. Since then,

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01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 1: he has built a burgeoning online presence that is probably

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01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: best described as a central part of the Manos, which

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01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: at its best is a celebration of masculinity how to

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: be a well functioning man in its turbulent society, and

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01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: at its worst is mostly but a bunch of losers

1397
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: complaining that women do not like them with extreme rhetoric.

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01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: Tate has become a cause celeb for teenage boys in

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01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: particular over the last several months as his online following

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01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 1: reached critical mass. Much of his virality was driven by

1401
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: a scheme he had going, which was called Hustler's University.

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01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 1: I will not bore you with the specifics. It essentially

1403
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: was a multi level marketing scheme where you pay fifty

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: dollars a months to post on his behalf about the benefits.

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01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: The more people that you sign up, you make money,

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01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: thus feeding itself more into the scheme scheme aside, it's

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01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 1: obvious though the guy struck a chord. The real question

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01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: is why Tate, at his core, is basically a self

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01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: help guru. He is a guy selling the prospect of

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01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 1: quote escaping the matrix to help disaffected men who feel

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: like they're down in life. That spans pretty much everything

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: from money advice, to lack of success with women, to

1413
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: a general feeling of listeners which is often translated into rage.

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01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: Tait's Instagram profile was rife with pictures in front of

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01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: flashy cars, guns, smoking cigars, and beautiful women. His basic

1416
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: worldview is that the modern world is designed to keep

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: men down, that men have let go of their masculinity,

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01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,839
Speaker 1: and all of this is down dream of a decline

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01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: of Western civilization, the feminization of Western culture. Now, that

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01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: sounds good in the abstract, but it's not great considering

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01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: specific instances. He's at least alluded to needing to be quote,

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01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: tough with women and even in times making it seem

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01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: like you'd be okay with outright violence. Again, I will

1424
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: not get into the specifics, because he and his fans

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01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: claim he's being taken out of context. I will encourage

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: you to do a deep dive of your own. All

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01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: of this has royaled to the surface in the last

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01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 1: month as videos of Tate and about Tate a mass

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01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: literally a billion views on TikTok in just a month,

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01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: and in July he actually surpassed Kim Kardashian and Donald

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: Trump as one of the most googled people on planet Earth. Now.

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01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: People immediately began freaking out, from feminist organizations to teachers

1433
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: who notice how animated their teenage male students were in

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01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: their praise of him, and a concerted cancelation effort began,

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01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: which basically succeeded in the last week when Tate was

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01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: officially banned from all major social media platforms. He was

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: banned from Instagram, Facebook, and despite not having a TikTok account,

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: was banned there too, with the company saying they would

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: be we're moving not only accounts associated with him, but

1440
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: perhaps even videos of all of his content. Both companies

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01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: ban Tate effectively on the same day for violating their

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: quote misogyny policy. Now, I am not going to defend

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01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: anything Andrew Tate said from nearly everything, though from what

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01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: I can tell, it amounts to a moral panic, and

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01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: it refuses to actually grapple with why Tate was even

1446
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: popular in the first place. The core accusation of so

1447
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: called feminist groups is that Tate is quote normalizing misogyny

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01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 1: amongst teenagers, and that it is the responsibility of TikTok

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: and Instagram to not promote such content. Teachers across the world,

1450
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: from the US, the UK, and Australia have blamed Tate

1451
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 1: for a market change in their students for unruly behavior. Now, first,

1452
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: I do not think teenage boys need a prompting by

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01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: anyone to act like idiots. But again I ask why

1454
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: is Tate popular in the first place. To me, it's

1455
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,799
Speaker 1: obvious something is wrong with young men across the West.

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01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: We've covered it trends deeply on breaking points, but it

1457
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: bears repeating. Men are dropping out of co knowledge at

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01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: a historic degree, widening the education gender gap. Men are

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01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: much more likely today to be single than at any

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01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 1: time in modern Western history. Male wages have stagnated, which

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01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: has led to a crisis of marriage ability. Declining single

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01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: male wages over the last thirty years have made many

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: men in America much less desirable partners. Now, you might

1464
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: think there's nothing wrong with that. Single days were fun

1465
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: after all, but on a society wide level, more single

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01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: men has all sorts of downstream effects which are actually terrible.

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: Listen to this quote. Single men are much more likely

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01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: to be unemployed, financially fragile, lack of college degree than

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01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: those with a partner. They're likely to have lower median earnings.

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Speaker 1: Single men earned less than twenty nineteen than in nineteen ninety,

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Speaker 1: even adjusting for inflation. What's even stranger is this single

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01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: women are actually earning the exact same amount that they

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01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: were thirty years ago, but those with partners are earning

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01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: fifty percent more than previously. Acknowledging this reality reveals a

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01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: terrible reality for a lot of American men. The more

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01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,480
Speaker 1: and longer you are single male, the worse your economic

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01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: health and marriage prospects become. The more likely you are

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01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: to live with your pains parents, and longer. The more

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01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: and longer it happens, the larger the trend amongst the

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01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: male US population is and the worst outcomes for men

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01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: on a society wide level. That cold hard reality is

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: what created Andrew Tate and the conditions why is popular.

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01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: The explosion of popularity of figures like him, liver King

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Speaker 1: many other similar ones is really just a commentary on

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Speaker 1: the failure of popular culture to provide men of all stripes,

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Speaker 1: especially young ones, with figures they can look up to,

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Speaker 1: which acknowledge the status quo and offer people a way

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Speaker 1: out to things that men have always valued fitness, status, seeking,

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Speaker 1: a partner. The real problem that we have is that

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Speaker 1: all of those have been denounced as misogynists. There are

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Speaker 1: values that you're not even allowed to acknowledge even exist,

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Speaker 1: let alone place a value judgment on them as good.

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Speaker 1: In a world where MSNBC's claiming fitness is far right

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Speaker 1: and it sounds cringed to the mainstream ear to even

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Speaker 1: say it's okay to want to be a man and

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Speaker 1: pursue masculine activities, is it any wonder why guys like

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Speaker 1: Tate are so popular. My critique of Tait of who

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Speaker 1: I See is really just an air to the twenty

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Speaker 1: ten era Internet that I grew up on, with people

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Speaker 1: like Tucker, Max, Neil Strauss, Dan Belzerian. They were worshiped similarly.

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Speaker 1: Here's the news flash, though, with the exception of Bilzarian,

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Speaker 1: both Max and Strauss moved on from that message, both

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Speaker 1: advocating one today of living a fulsome and a balanced

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01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: life that doesn't celebrate the extremes that they were known

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01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: for popularizing, and instead one of self knowledge and growth.

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Speaker 1: That's the real antidote to andrew tape. But the more

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Speaker 1: social media companies and the more the so called org

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01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: feminist organizations want to ban him, they will only embolden

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Speaker 1: his ilk and his followers. You cannot ban an idea,

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Speaker 1: you can only counter it. Until they learned that this

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Speaker 1: cycle will literally only repeat itself. It was actually fascinating

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Speaker 1: to me, Crystal, to watch this play out because I

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Speaker 1: watched some of these Andrews tapes and if you want

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01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue, become a premium

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Speaker 1: subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. It's been over a

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Speaker 1: year since the US officially withdrew from Afghanistan. Some of

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01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: it was overshadowed by the strike on Zawahi obviously Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: and all of that is happening, but it's important to

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Speaker 1: think about not only what happened, but what is continuing

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Speaker 1: to happen since we left. So we got the guest

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Speaker 1: Adam Weinstein of a Quincy institutelet's going to bring him

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Speaker 1: in here. Adam, it's great to see you. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Absolutely So

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Speaker 1: there's a new report that you guys put out. Let's

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Speaker 1: put it up there on the screen about strategic Patients,

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Speaker 1: the sustainable Engagement with a change Afghanistan. Just give us

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a rundown on what exactly has

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Speaker 1: happened in Afghanistan since the US pulled out oripolicy, how

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Speaker 1: is the nation faring and what should we do about it? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's an uncertain time in Afghanistan because the

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Speaker 1: country was basically operating off of a war economy. In

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Speaker 1: other words, much of the economy in Afghanistan was related

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Speaker 1: to the US military intervention and other countries as well,

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Speaker 1: such as bulk fuel shipping and things like that. And

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Speaker 1: it was also an aid dependent economy and so so

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Speaker 1: once the withdrawal occurred, a lot of that aid went away,

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01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: although over time it came back, and of course the

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01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: war economy evaporated, and so the real economy of the

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Speaker 1: country is quite underdeveloped. And in addition to that, sanctions

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Speaker 1: that were intended for the Taliban as a terrorist organization

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01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: became sanctions on the Taliban as the de facto government overnight,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of an unprecedented situation in sanctions history.

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Speaker 1: And in addition to that, the foreign exchange reserves of

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Speaker 1: the central bank were frozen, so that created a liquidity crisis. Well,

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01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: there were other causes of that as well. So the

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Speaker 1: idea of our sanctions on Taliban, which as you said,

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Speaker 1: is now the acting government of Afghanistan, was intended to

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Speaker 1: sort of compel better behavior. Has that worked? I don't

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Speaker 1: think it has. And that's what we have to remember

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Speaker 1: about sanctions. Sanctions are not intended just for bad guys.

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Speaker 1: Sanctions are intended to change the behaviors of bad guys

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Speaker 1: in a very simple way, right, And the problem with

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Speaker 1: putting sanctions into force is that once you employ sanctions,

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Speaker 1: it's very hard to rescind to them because the question

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Speaker 1: will be, well, what's changed in the case of the Taliban,

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Speaker 1: not much. You know, they still abuse human rights, they

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Speaker 1: still have connections to Al Qaeda, but the sanctions really

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01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: aren't changing the Taliban's behavior. They're just hurting the people

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Speaker 1: of Afghanistan. So what the Treasury Department has tried to

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Speaker 1: do is create all these sanctions exemptions called by issuing

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Speaker 1: things called general licenses. But that doesn't get around the

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Speaker 1: chilling effect of the sanctions. And so look in terms

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Speaker 1: of policy, what you lay out here, what are the

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Speaker 1: risks of the current Biden administration's posture. I think the

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Speaker 1: risks of the current posture that we're a little bit disengaged.

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Speaker 1: We've still contributed a significant amount of aid to the country,

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Speaker 1: but when our diplomats aren't on the ground, the sanctions

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Speaker 1: are in full effect, aside from the general licenses that

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, and we're really not engaged enough. I think

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Speaker 1: for the last twenty years we were too engaged through

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Speaker 1: a military intervention, and now the pendulum has swung all

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Speaker 1: the way to the other direction. And if Afghanistan becomes

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Speaker 1: a failed state, I think that's a problem for the

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Speaker 1: region and the security of the world. Certainly, we don't

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Speaker 1: want to see a tal bond that Afghanistan, but that's

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Speaker 1: the reality we have to live with right now. And

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Speaker 1: it's still a better reality than a failed state. What

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Speaker 1: is the reality, the humanitarian reality for the Afghan people?

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Speaker 1: And how much did our decision to freeze the nation's

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Speaker 1: central bank reserves? How much is that contributing to that

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Speaker 1: humanitarian crisis. Well, it's contributing in the sense that the

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Speaker 1: central bank can't regulate the economy the way a central

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Speaker 1: bank typically would, and there's a bit of a liquidity crisis.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to remember that even if the

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Speaker 1: sanctions were lifted to tomorrow and the frozen foreign exchange

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Speaker 1: reserves will returned the same day, the economy would still

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Speaker 1: be in dire straits. Much of this has to do

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Speaker 1: with the fact that Afghanistan is landlocked, the Talban or

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Speaker 1: mismanaged things, but we are adding to that harm and

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Speaker 1: I think that's something we have to be cognizant of. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I think you lay out a pretty compelling case for

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Speaker 1: you know, how exact goul to go forward. Everybody supposedly

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Speaker 1: cared a lot on withdrawal and then after about three

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Speaker 1: months it evaporated. But those people still live there, of course,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's always going to exist no matter

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Speaker 1: whether we like it or not. Really appreciate you joining

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Speaker 1: us Adam, very informative. Thank you. Thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for watching. Really appreciate it. As we mentioned, stay

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Speaker 1: tuned tomorrow we are going to have Crystal's live reaction

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