WEBVTT - The Final Exam

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<v Speaker 1>A group of high school students.

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<v Speaker 2>High school students.

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth In high school students started a project to research

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<v Speaker 3>a string of unsolved murders. Their research led to the

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<v Speaker 3>identification of the killer.

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<v Speaker 4>Investigators now have an answer to a thirty four year

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<v Speaker 4>old question.

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<v Speaker 5>Once you start getting a few tips, or a few leads,

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<v Speaker 5>or few identifications, then the cold case isn't so cold anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a pretty good chance he's still alive. Everything that

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<v Speaker 5>the students predicted through their profile turned out to be accurate.

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<v Speaker 6>Redhead Killer profile mal Caucasian, five nine six, two hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and seventy pounds, unstable home, absent father, and a domineering mother,

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<v Speaker 6>right handed, a Q above one hundred, most likely heterosexual.

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<v Speaker 5>There is no profile of this killer except for the

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<v Speaker 5>ones the students created.

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<v Speaker 7>Just because some of these women no longer have people

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<v Speaker 7>to speak for them, it does not mean that they

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<v Speaker 7>deserve to not be so anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>What if this guy's still alive?

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<v Speaker 9>Like, what if becomes after user?

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna kill me?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 11>This is Murder one oh one, Season one, episode ten,

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<v Speaker 11>The Final Exam. I'm Jeff Sheen, a television and podcast

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<v Speaker 11>producer at KAT Studios with Stephanie Leidecker, Courtney Armstrong, and

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<v Speaker 11>Andrew Arnault. In twenty twenty, I came across a story

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<v Speaker 11>about a group of high school students who set out

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<v Speaker 11>to investigate a series of unsolved murders in their community.

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<v Speaker 11>It was an incredible story that here at KAT Studios

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<v Speaker 11>we felt needed to be explored further.

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<v Speaker 12>All right, to thank everybody for coming down, Thank you

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<v Speaker 12>for being patient with us. My name is Alex Campbell

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<v Speaker 12>and I'm a teacher elizabeth In High school. The reason

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<v Speaker 12>we called you all here today is to provide some

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<v Speaker 12>updates on the Bible Belt strangler case.

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<v Speaker 11>On February sixth, twenty twenty three, mister Campbell, Riley and

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<v Speaker 11>Marley met more than thirty members of the press, law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 11>and local at Elizabethan County Chamber of Commerce to present

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<v Speaker 11>the latest findings. It was a moment the club had

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<v Speaker 11>been working toward for months. First, mister Campbell summarized the

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<v Speaker 11>work they had done thus far.

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<v Speaker 12>I was a teacher in twenty eighteen when my sociology

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<v Speaker 12>class wanted to do as a project to see if

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<v Speaker 12>there was any relationship between.

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<v Speaker 5>These murders that happened.

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<v Speaker 12>So in May of twenty eighteen, that class called a

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<v Speaker 12>press conference to announce about the work they had been doing,

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<v Speaker 12>and they believe that they had some information that did

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<v Speaker 12>show that maybe six of these murders could be related

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<v Speaker 12>back to one person, because for thirty years, nothing really

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<v Speaker 12>happened with most of those cases.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just completely cold from.

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<v Speaker 12>About nineteen eighty five killed twenty eighteen. So there has

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<v Speaker 12>been a lot of developments in the last few years,

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<v Speaker 12>and there's a lot of things to catch you up on.

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<v Speaker 12>And the students think they've found some more evidence they're

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<v Speaker 12>going to share with you today.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm going to turn it over to them.

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<v Speaker 11>You're so girls to tell your next Riley and Marley spoke.

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<v Speaker 13>On September sixth, twenty eighteen, the TBI released of the

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<v Speaker 13>Campbell County Jane Doe had been identified as Tina Marie

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<v Speaker 13>McKinney Farmer of Indianapolis, and after speaking with family, new

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<v Speaker 13>information reveals that she is at the epicenter.

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<v Speaker 8>Of the Bible Bells strangler case. Not long after that, on.

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<v Speaker 13>October first, twenty eighteen, case he announced Innows County Jane

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<v Speaker 13>Doe as EBC Regina Black Pilgrim of North Carolina, but

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<v Speaker 13>after further research, we determined that she is not a

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<v Speaker 13>potential victim of the battle Bellas strangler case. And then lastly,

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<v Speaker 13>on November twenty fifth, twenty eighteen, the TBI and New

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<v Speaker 13>Hampshire authorities announced him the Green County Jane Doe is

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<v Speaker 13>Elizabeth Wilmott of New Hampshire and she is involved.

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<v Speaker 8>In the Bubble Bels strangler case.

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<v Speaker 14>On December twentieth of twenty nineteen, the TBI announced that

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<v Speaker 14>Tina Farmer's killer was identified as Jerry Johns because his

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<v Speaker 14>DNA was matched with DNA.

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<v Speaker 8>That was left at the crime scene. So John's had

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<v Speaker 8>been in prison since nineteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 7>For charges relating to trying to kill a Tennessee redheaded woman,

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<v Speaker 7>but he died in custody in twenty fifteen, so he

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<v Speaker 7>did not live to see the conviction of this murder.

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<v Speaker 8>Also, baby girl Jane Doe was identified as Tracy Sue

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<v Speaker 8>Walker of Indiana. She was fifteen years old at the

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<v Speaker 8>time her.

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<v Speaker 7>Death, so we think that she could be included in

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<v Speaker 7>the battle Belt strangling victims because of different evidence in

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<v Speaker 7>the crime scene and.

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<v Speaker 8>The m O and signature.

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<v Speaker 11>They pointed to the extensive updates since the original assignment.

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<v Speaker 7>This was our original list developed by the class of

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<v Speaker 7>twenty eighteen of potential victims of the Battle Belt strangling,

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<v Speaker 7>and you see there are a lot of Jane Doe's,

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of unidentified victims. And then next this is

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<v Speaker 7>our current list that we think could be tied back

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<v Speaker 7>to the Bible Belt strangler. You can see there are

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<v Speaker 7>a lot more identifications, a lot less Jane Doe's, which

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<v Speaker 7>is something very encouraging for us that law enforcement is

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<v Speaker 7>continuing to identify these victims, and I think that's in

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<v Speaker 7>part to some of the research.

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<v Speaker 8>In the press conference that was held in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 11>They also spoke about the work they've done since then.

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<v Speaker 7>People were able to work with an FBI behavior analyst,

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<v Speaker 7>and that was really cool getting to work.

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<v Speaker 8>With a professional and someone that had done this for

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<v Speaker 8>years and then kind of.

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<v Speaker 7>Giving us the green light and telling us that our

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<v Speaker 7>work was pretty substantial. So he also said he was

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred percent convinced that the person who killed Tina

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<v Speaker 7>Farmer is guilty of others based on his admission to

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<v Speaker 7>being at the secondary crime scenes.

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<v Speaker 8>The suspect would.

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<v Speaker 7>Also fit the profile by exhibiting these classical serial killer

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<v Speaker 7>behaviors such as knowing a lot about serial.

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<v Speaker 8>Killers, even mentioning them by name.

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<v Speaker 7>He studied criminal justice and serial killers in three different colleges.

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<v Speaker 7>He felt he was smarter than the police and then

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<v Speaker 7>might sing an incriminating statement like he didn't do it,

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<v Speaker 7>but would offer how he would have done it, etc.

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<v Speaker 7>And then our FBI behavior analyst said, he would be

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<v Speaker 7>my number one suspect and the jury would convict him.

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<v Speaker 8>Every single time.

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<v Speaker 7>As well, we presented to a retired detective who had

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<v Speaker 7>decades of experience and it also work on many homicides.

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<v Speaker 7>And then after seeing the evidence, he was asked if

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<v Speaker 7>he would give this to a district attorney to take

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<v Speaker 7>to a grand jury, and his answer was, oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I would work with it.

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<v Speaker 8>And then lastly, we presented to.

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<v Speaker 7>A district attorney who had decades of experience as well

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<v Speaker 7>in legal practices and as a former assistant district attorney.

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<v Speaker 7>And then when he was shown the evidence, he was

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<v Speaker 7>asked if he had ever taken a case to a

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<v Speaker 7>grand jury with less evidence than what we had, and

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<v Speaker 7>he said, oh yeah. When asked if he would take

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<v Speaker 7>the case to a grand jury, he answered, this is solid.

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<v Speaker 8>There is no question, Yes, definitely.

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<v Speaker 13>David Davenport, retired to y'all special agent, a member of

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<v Speaker 13>the Redhead Murders TA Sport said, because of the similarities

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<v Speaker 13>in all the cases and how they were dumped along

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<v Speaker 13>the side of the interstate, it.

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<v Speaker 8>Was probably done by the same truck driver.

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<v Speaker 13>The former assistant distri attorney that we've presented to believes

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<v Speaker 13>that there's enough evidence that it is the same emment

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<v Speaker 13>signature of the Tini former killer, and a retired from

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<v Speaker 13>a Son detective believes there is enough information that it

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<v Speaker 13>once again is the same MN signature of the Tini

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<v Speaker 13>former killer.

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<v Speaker 11>To the students, all signs pointed to John's being the killer.

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<v Speaker 13>So all the other victim profound a long travel roads

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<v Speaker 13>just like Tina Farmer. They all have the same characteristics

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<v Speaker 13>such as being white, petite, in transient. All were killed

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<v Speaker 13>from The person who killed Tina Farmer was not incarcerated,

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<v Speaker 13>so while he was in prison, all the murders stopped.

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<v Speaker 13>The same ligature was used on a surviving victim, the

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<v Speaker 13>Chief and County Jane Doe and Tracy Sue Walker, and

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<v Speaker 13>a ligature used on De Soto County Jane Doe was

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<v Speaker 13>just minutes away from Tina Farmer's killers family member's house,

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<v Speaker 13>which he visited several times per year if that was

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<v Speaker 13>in qube So here's just.

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<v Speaker 8>Another look at mckinni.

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<v Speaker 10>Farmer's killer's MO and signature, so an extensive criminal record

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<v Speaker 10>that dated back at the age of sixteen.

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<v Speaker 14>He spent the better path of his younger life between

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<v Speaker 14>nineteen sixty seven and nineteen seventy six incarcerated, with no

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<v Speaker 14>murders matching them happening while he was incarcerated, and then

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<v Speaker 14>in seven in nineteen seventy six he became a trucker,

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<v Speaker 14>and then when the murders matching his MO and signature occurred,

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<v Speaker 14>he would be out of jail.

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<v Speaker 7>Until his arrest in nineteen eighty five. So whenever he

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<v Speaker 7>was in jail, no murders. Whenever he was out of jail,

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<v Speaker 7>while he started a period while he was out of jail,

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<v Speaker 7>six murders and an attempted murder would take place with

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<v Speaker 7>the same m in the same signature. The first murder

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<v Speaker 7>matching this MO would take place in nineteen seventy eight,

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<v Speaker 7>the year he begins as a long haul trucker. In

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen eighty he would start his own trucking company under

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<v Speaker 7>the Motor Carrier Vehicle Act, which lifted a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>regulations on trucking, so truckers were able to be their

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<v Speaker 7>own bosses pretty much, so.

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<v Speaker 8>There was not a lot of supervision. They were able

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<v Speaker 8>to kind of do their own thing.

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<v Speaker 7>And then he would have to admit to law enforcement

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<v Speaker 7>that he had been everywhere a victim was found because

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<v Speaker 7>of his job.

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<v Speaker 8>As a trucker, and then the murders that fit.

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<v Speaker 7>The samemo and signature would stop after.

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<v Speaker 8>He was arrested in March of nineteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 13>The next year, the match book which was found near

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<v Speaker 13>Elizabeth Latt's body, and it was just a book of

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<v Speaker 13>matches from the Skinny Rooster, which was an exotic dancer

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<v Speaker 13>from in Houston, Texas. And know, if you know much

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<v Speaker 13>about Houston, but it's pretty big, like ten thousand square

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<v Speaker 13>miles big. However, the Skinny Rooster was located in an

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<v Speaker 13>out of the way location in a small industrial part

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<v Speaker 13>of the city, which was less than a two minute

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<v Speaker 13>drive from where the suspect was staying. And the matchbook

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<v Speaker 13>mysteriously was found a sixteen hour drive and we're one

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<v Speaker 13>thousand miles away beside a dead body that matched the

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<v Speaker 13>mo and signature of Tina Farmer's killer exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>And what we hope this information will lead to and

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<v Speaker 7>what we can get from this is for tips that

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<v Speaker 7>can help identify further victims.

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<v Speaker 11>The press was able to ask the girls questions.

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<v Speaker 6>Y'all didn't even do this for a grade, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>this is just for fun before we come in early,

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<v Speaker 6>usually once a week in the mornings before school and

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<v Speaker 6>talk about murder.

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<v Speaker 8>What would I mean? Why why did you more bread

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<v Speaker 8>in this route? Back up a five.

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<v Speaker 13>Years, Like she said, we are very close in age

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<v Speaker 13>with many of these victims, and it just kind of

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<v Speaker 13>resonates brought back home for us because it could be

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<v Speaker 13>as where it could be like she's a sister, it

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<v Speaker 13>could be her so or our moms back in the day,

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<v Speaker 13>and so it's just really hard to think that some

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<v Speaker 13>of these people had to live with not knowing mm

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<v Speaker 13>that and some of them had children and they could

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<v Speaker 13>have just left their moms, left them rather than been murdered.

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<v Speaker 13>So we just wanted to bring closure to all the

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<v Speaker 13>people affected by all these murders.

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<v Speaker 7>When you look at the evidence and you looked the

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<v Speaker 7>ways women lived, you know, many of them were transient run.

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<v Speaker 8>Aways, different things like that, but.

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<v Speaker 7>That didn't make them any less human, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 7>make them any lesser people.

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<v Speaker 8>And the fact that someone to try to take advantage

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<v Speaker 8>of that and did take advantage of that and thought.

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<v Speaker 15>That these people would not be missed knowing I'm just

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<v Speaker 15>getting to come look for them, I think that that's

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<v Speaker 15>very selfish and that's a very evil person, and I

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<v Speaker 15>think that that person needs to Obviously, suspect is gone

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<v Speaker 15>passed away, so you can't pay her what he did.

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<v Speaker 8>But these parents and these families and daughters, sisters, children,

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<v Speaker 8>they all deserve justice and they all deserve to know that.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, my mom didn't run away when I was

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<v Speaker 8>little because she didn't want me. She was taken from me.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think that that's something very important and that

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<v Speaker 7>there are still families and it is still facing people.

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<v Speaker 8>And also this can bring attention to future instances. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>don't get the part with the men you don't know,

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<v Speaker 8>And then if I think like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Just can help make people more aware that you know,

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<v Speaker 7>there are people out there who are you, and that's

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<v Speaker 7>very important to be aware and to know that it's real.

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<v Speaker 11>A local police officer commenting on their work.

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<v Speaker 5>So I would say, I don't have any questions, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm very appreciative.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, you guys are very professional.

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<v Speaker 5>I know you're still in my school, but I was

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<v Speaker 5>very blown away.

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<v Speaker 8>I guess it's rected. You all are very well put together.

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<v Speaker 8>You know you're not You have your knowledge, you can

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<v Speaker 8>answer questions off the top of your head.

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<v Speaker 12>You look very professional and that if you're ready to

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<v Speaker 12>give your PowerPoint presentation.

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<v Speaker 8>If you all wanna be in law enforcement, we'll be

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<v Speaker 8>happy to have you. But I will say, as a

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<v Speaker 8>law enforcement officer, if you all came to me and.

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<v Speaker 5>Said, hey, when we have this new information, I would

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<v Speaker 5>be excited.

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<v Speaker 8>I would be very happy that you off put that.

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<v Speaker 5>Work in to say hey, this is what I have

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<v Speaker 5>and you take the time to go look.

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<v Speaker 8>So I definitely do would be very pursuasive of.

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<v Speaker 11>The extra health and the extra knowledge, and for.

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<v Speaker 12>You all to do what you all do as well

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<v Speaker 12>to work together.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the most important thing right now is getting

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<v Speaker 7>all of the people involved on the same page, because,

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<v Speaker 7>like mister Campbell said, we've been in contact with some

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<v Speaker 7>different agencies and stuff out of state. Because I have no

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<v Speaker 7>clue that this happened, and there's been new management, new

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<v Speaker 7>people take over, so that don't even know about these cases,

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<v Speaker 7>don't know what the files are, the didn't even know

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<v Speaker 7>there was a.

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<v Speaker 15>File, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And I think that it's very important that we get

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<v Speaker 7>everybody on the same page and kind of present this

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<v Speaker 7>information to everybody and just make sure that what's known

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<v Speaker 7>is known.

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<v Speaker 11>Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in

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<v Speaker 11>a moment. Murder one on one. After the press conference,

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<v Speaker 11>mister Campbell sat down with Riley and Marley to reflect

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<v Speaker 11>on their work.

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<v Speaker 5>Had a couple of days to reflect. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 5>guess the first question might be, how do you think

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<v Speaker 5>he did?

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<v Speaker 16>Like during the actual press conference, I did not feel

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<v Speaker 16>super confident myself. I was nervous about how like sounded,

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<v Speaker 16>the kind of verbage I was using. But then afterward

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<v Speaker 16>here and like the response and how they thought we

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<v Speaker 16>sounded very professional. I felt a lot more confident in

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<v Speaker 16>myself and then felt pretty I felt pretty good about it.

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<v Speaker 13>I agree with Riley. While doing it, I was a

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<v Speaker 13>little bit nervous and didn't feel too good about it,

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<v Speaker 13>But after hearing like the praise from everybody else, I

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<v Speaker 13>felt a lot better. About everything.

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<v Speaker 11>The girls discussed their motivations because I think.

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<v Speaker 16>It's important to identify these killers and find justice for

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<v Speaker 16>these women, regardless if we're necessarily right or not.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, it's not just about like convicting generally on John's

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<v Speaker 13>ball that it's just finding doses for the girls.

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<v Speaker 11>Mister Campbell shared some frustrating news.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you saw it or not, but

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<v Speaker 5>there was an article in one of the local newspapers, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>and they followed up with a representative from the TVI,

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<v Speaker 5>and the quote was that there's no evidence connecting these

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<v Speaker 5>crimes things.

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<v Speaker 16>How do they know though, because they haven't. It's not

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<v Speaker 16>like they went out of their way to see if

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<v Speaker 16>there's any DNA evidence anything like that. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 16>that I can sit there and say there's no evidence

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<v Speaker 16>when they haven't even give it really much attention.

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<v Speaker 13>They're so similar that it's insane, Like, I don't see

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<v Speaker 13>how there couldn't at least be something like there has

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<v Speaker 13>to be some evidence.

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<v Speaker 16>Because anytime we've tried to talk to them or make

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<v Speaker 16>contact with them to see if we could help a

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<v Speaker 16>new way or give them information if there's any new information,

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<v Speaker 16>they've kind of shot US down.

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<v Speaker 11>It wasn't long before the Price picked up the story.

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<v Speaker 17>New research from Tennessee high school students shows a single

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<v Speaker 17>person could be responsible for a string of killings.

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<v Speaker 18>New research from a pair of elizabeth In Heist school

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<v Speaker 18>students suggests a single person was responsible. The students now

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<v Speaker 18>believe is actually responsible for six murders and one attempted murder.

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<v Speaker 18>In September, two students started looking into the case again,

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<v Speaker 18>and those students presented their findings to the public.

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<v Speaker 17>Today, two elizabeth And high school students are now sharing

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<v Speaker 17>the result of their research into a string of cold

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<v Speaker 17>case murders.

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<v Speaker 9>Two elizabeth did In High school students believe a serial

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<v Speaker 9>killer was on the loose in the South in the

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<v Speaker 9>mid eighties.

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<v Speaker 5>This week, two students, Marley Mathada and Riley Whitson joined

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<v Speaker 5>with Campbell to present the culmination of five years of

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<v Speaker 5>investigation into the Redhead murders.

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<v Speaker 19>Marley Mathena and Riley Whitson explained to reporters and investigators

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<v Speaker 19>what they found. The women were strangled with a patternes.

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<v Speaker 19>They also identified more likely victims and ruled out others.

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<v Speaker 9>Elizabeth In High school students, Riley Whitson, Marley Methana and

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<v Speaker 9>teacher Alex Campbell say their research centers around the murder

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<v Speaker 9>of Tina McKenny Farmer. They were able to find similarities

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<v Speaker 9>in her killing with others around the same time period.

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<v Speaker 9>They hoped to bring some closure to families.

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<v Speaker 20>Back in twenty eighteen, the first group of Elizabethtan High

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<v Speaker 20>School students, under the guidance of their teacher, developed a

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<v Speaker 20>profile of a serial killer who could be responsible. In September,

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<v Speaker 20>more students joined in. The students presented their findings to FBI,

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<v Speaker 20>behavioral analysis and other criminal justice experts, who all agreed

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<v Speaker 20>the suspect fit the profile of the other killings.

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<v Speaker 9>Woodson and Mathena are both juniors at elizabeth In High School.

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<v Speaker 9>They hope to continue working on this investigation in their

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<v Speaker 9>senior year.

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<v Speaker 11>It wasn't just the press that felt moved by their work.

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<v Speaker 21>Man that was truly blown away. I mean, I knew,

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<v Speaker 21>you know, we would talk about it a little bit,

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<v Speaker 21>but not in depth that all the stuff they presented.

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<v Speaker 11>Riley's dad, mister Whitson, who was sitting in the press conference,

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<v Speaker 11>shared his thoughts on the assignment with mister Campbell.

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<v Speaker 21>I was so proud of him. I thinking through information,

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<v Speaker 21>getting on the internet, digging through stuff, digging through you know,

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<v Speaker 21>forty year old documents, finding details, finding information. I think

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<v Speaker 21>that's a skill that has helped her Mark. That will

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<v Speaker 21>help her Mary in life going forward, in college especially,

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<v Speaker 21>you know, to pour over have tons of information and

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<v Speaker 21>what's important in this information. I think that's a that's

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<v Speaker 21>something really big that'll help them going forward.

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<v Speaker 11>Mister Whitson had a good question for mister Campbell.

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<v Speaker 21>You're not getting paid extra, you know, stipping to do this, correct?

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<v Speaker 5>And that's correct.

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<v Speaker 21>Yeah, And I was telling the guy that, He's like,

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<v Speaker 21>are you kidding me? I said, yeah, I said, I said,

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<v Speaker 21>the girls go early before school. I said, mister Campbell

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<v Speaker 21>comes early. It's they're not They're not doing this for

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<v Speaker 21>a letter grade or a number or a dollar amount.

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<v Speaker 21>They're just doing it because they want to do it.

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<v Speaker 21>They're passionate. But most people are blown away by that

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<v Speaker 21>because most teenagers, and let's be honest, most people that

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<v Speaker 21>work don't do stuff unless they get compensated. That's just life.

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<v Speaker 21>You know, people don't do that in the time. You

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<v Speaker 21>all have poured into this, and you especially, you know,

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<v Speaker 21>you have life, you have a wife, you've got kids,

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<v Speaker 21>you've got a family. You got to like myself, I

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<v Speaker 21>don't know if I can find the time that you've

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<v Speaker 21>put into this extra as much as we have going on,

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<v Speaker 21>and then on top of that to not get compensated.

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<v Speaker 21>That's a I'm going to patch you on the back,

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<v Speaker 21>really really largely for that. Well.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 11>Carrie Schneider from the EXQ Institute, the company that originally

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<v Speaker 11>helped back the project, in twenty eighteen discussed the everlasting

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<v Speaker 11>mark a project like this leaves.

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<v Speaker 10>I think one of the most fascinating and compelling pieces

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<v Speaker 10>of this entire project is that it just kept going.

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<v Speaker 8>We're years now into this.

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<v Speaker 10>The original kids that were a part of this project

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<v Speaker 10>are long gone, they're adults. It's not just a project, right,

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<v Speaker 10>It's when you really actually have interest and curiosity in something,

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<v Speaker 10>You're going to do it once the bell rings, You're

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<v Speaker 10>going to do it once the school day ends, because

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<v Speaker 10>you're really invested in it. So I think that's just

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<v Speaker 10>a big, a big part of what learning can be.

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<v Speaker 10>It can actually be something that exists outside the confines

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<v Speaker 10>of time or classrooms or a bell schedule or any

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<v Speaker 10>of that. And I think this is just one example

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<v Speaker 10>of that being true.

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<v Speaker 8>This class taught me more than general education.

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<v Speaker 13>It was about family togetherness and most importantly, understanding the world.

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<v Speaker 11>Students who are now adults reflect on the original project

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<v Speaker 11>and the impact it has had on their lives.

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<v Speaker 7>I learned the importance of advocating for those without a voice.

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<v Speaker 15>I often find myself thinking about the woman behind the graves.

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<v Speaker 2>They were somebody's lover, friend or mother. That's the part

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<v Speaker 2>that really hurts me the most. Missing for years without

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<v Speaker 2>a trace, and no one is even looking. What does

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<v Speaker 2>that say about humanity?

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<v Speaker 8>The best time to make a difference is the present.

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<v Speaker 5>How about Heylanda, this is Alex.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you hello? Oh yeah, wonderful.

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<v Speaker 11>Let's stop here for another with Greig Murder one on one.

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<v Speaker 11>While mister Campbell received lots of positive feedback from the

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<v Speaker 11>press conference, there was one person whose opinion mattered more

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<v Speaker 11>than anyone's. Jerry John surviving victim Linda.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess you saw some of the news stories and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I was impressed, very impressed. I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 3>that they were so mature and they talked so well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can't even talk on the phone TV. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no way I could speak, so but they were just

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<v Speaker 3>they did great, not even getting a grain for it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and coming in early. It took a lot

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<v Speaker 3>to get me to come in school early.

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<v Speaker 5>It takes me a lot to get some kids just

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<v Speaker 5>to come to school at all.

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<v Speaker 11>For Linda, the press conference brought up painful memories of

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<v Speaker 11>the night Jerry Johns tried to kill her.

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<v Speaker 3>When I first saw Ten Farmer's picture, it reminded a

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<v Speaker 3>photo of myself. I'd say Ten and I probably were

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<v Speaker 3>the same height and wait, and had the same hair,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I mean hers were shorter than mine. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I don't all those ones seem to have a

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<v Speaker 3>lot a lot in common. Yeah, I mean, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've got it bad. And then I look

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<v Speaker 3>or see all these people and all these tortured and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it just it was the longest ten minutes

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<v Speaker 3>of my life. I mean, it seemed it seemed like forever.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you know, it's so many have had it worse.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I ask you a personal question and you don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to answer it if you don't want to. And

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<v Speaker 5>I could be wrong, but it seems like I can

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<v Speaker 5>tell a big difference in you since the first time

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<v Speaker 5>we talked just how you deal, just how you're dealing

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<v Speaker 5>with things. Do you feel there's a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>When I first when you first I talk to you,

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<v Speaker 3>I just freaked out. I couldn't breathe the first few times.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, honestly, there's one time I had to hang

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<v Speaker 3>up because I could not breathe, and I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>was it was And the next time I think at

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<v Speaker 3>it was the time that you had to wait till

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<v Speaker 3>afternoon or something, and I'm like, oh, yes, I have

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<v Speaker 3>more coffee before I have done phone. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>I've bently calmed down and I've prayed about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was excited for you guys to do that. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a little overwhelming. I'm glad I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be there because it was a little more than I

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<v Speaker 3>thought it was going to be, but it was. It

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<v Speaker 3>was really exciting. Anything you do to help anybody is

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<v Speaker 3>just I can't imagine not knowing what happened to my child.

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<v Speaker 11>Despite connecting with her numerous times over the phone, mister

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<v Speaker 11>Campbell and Lynn I had never met something he wanted

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<v Speaker 11>to change.

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<v Speaker 5>You had mentioned that you might consider maybe coming for

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<v Speaker 5>a visit sometime this summer. Is that really something you

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<v Speaker 5>feel like doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, once I saw those girls, I have to meet

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<v Speaker 3>those girls someway. It's possible. I just felt this chinship

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<v Speaker 3>or something with them to them. Okay, I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 3>but the minute that song or that I thought I

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<v Speaker 3>had to meet these girls.

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<v Speaker 11>Mister Campbell relay the news to Riley and Martley.

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<v Speaker 5>I was able to speak to our surviving victim. She

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<v Speaker 5>said that in the last few years she really hadn't

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<v Speaker 5>gone many places like I. Basically left her town, she said.

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<v Speaker 4>But she said, after I saw those girls, like I

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<v Speaker 4>just wanted to come meet on So she said that

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<v Speaker 4>she would like to maybe plan a trip down here

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<v Speaker 4>maybe in the next few months.

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<v Speaker 8>No way, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 17>Well, how do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 8>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 16>That's gonna be just gonna feel because I mean, we

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<v Speaker 16>have really we have not talked to her one on one,

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<v Speaker 16>but we've talked.

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<v Speaker 22>We found out about as much as we could about

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<v Speaker 22>this without actually meeting her, who was in a creepy way,

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<v Speaker 22>we're almost like her stalkers and her fan club because

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<v Speaker 22>you know, she is the reason he did get he

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<v Speaker 22>did get prosecuted, and so we've kind of been her

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<v Speaker 22>biggest fan, and she doesn't even really we've never met her.

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<v Speaker 16>And it kind of feels like she don't know who

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<v Speaker 16>we are. She's kind of a celebrity in our minds.

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<v Speaker 16>I guess, you know, we can meet it. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you guys are smiling, you're pretty excited. You're talking

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<v Speaker 5>over each other.

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<v Speaker 16>That's what it's about. It's about these girls. It's not

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<v Speaker 16>I mean, obviously we want as much media attention as

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<v Speaker 16>possible and much attention to the case as possible. But

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<v Speaker 16>if we can do justice on these girls part and

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<v Speaker 16>get their stories out there and make it known, I

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<v Speaker 16>think that's the most important thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we've got more work to do. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>like new stuff's gonna happen, And so maybe you guys

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<v Speaker 5>can just focus on.

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<v Speaker 4>Winning the state championship for the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, take a little break from the all the murders,

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<v Speaker 5>and let's just go at championship.

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<v Speaker 4>And then maybe after all that, maybe we'll see what's

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<v Speaker 4>happening and if there's some way we want to continue this,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe in the.

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<v Speaker 17>Spring or next year, we'll I'm sure there'll be more

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<v Speaker 17>work to do.

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<v Speaker 11>Definitely, it seems that time might come sooner rather than later.

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<v Speaker 1>The only question I have is Jerry Johns could not

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<v Speaker 1>have murdered us, the victim who was found in Barbaraville, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was arrested, which was the very last victim.

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<v Speaker 1>He was arrested for the attempted murder of London. He

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<v Speaker 1>would have been in jail. But what I know is

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<v Speaker 1>that Jerry Johns had a brother.

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<v Speaker 11>Shane Waters, who has been on the case since the beginning,

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<v Speaker 11>has a theory that can't be ignored. Shane recalls his

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<v Speaker 11>interview with an eyewitness who saw Epsy Pilgrim being abducted.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me what the man looked like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>truck looked like. But what's odd and interesting is that

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<v Speaker 1>the truck is a red truck, which Jerry Johns' truck

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<v Speaker 1>was red, so the description is a perfect description of

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<v Speaker 1>what Jerry Johnson's truck was. However, Jerry Johns was a redhead,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bruce said that this man had dark hair, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Johns's brother had dark hair.

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<v Speaker 11>Shane spoke to Jerry Johns's ex wife about the brother.

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<v Speaker 1>When I talked to his wife, she told me that

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<v Speaker 1>him and his brother would drive around to all these

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<v Speaker 1>locations together. They you know, they basically were always in

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<v Speaker 1>the truck together. They were very close. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the things that I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>is like, how could he do this with his brother there.

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<v Speaker 17>All the time?

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was like, well, do you think they

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<v Speaker 1>could have been doing this together? And she's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he kind of would have to be. Maybe his brother

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<v Speaker 1>did it to try to take the heat off of

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry John's because I know that they questioned Jerry John's

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<v Speaker 1>about these women being murdered when he was arrested. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe once eSPI was murdered shortly after while he's

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<v Speaker 1>in jail, I think that the suspicion gets off of

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<v Speaker 1>him because of her body being found. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry was the lead person who was doing all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that his brother was there with him.

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<v Speaker 1>They were probably in it together.

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<v Speaker 12>Hey, girls, how y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 5>How not too bad? I hadn't seen you in a

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<v Speaker 5>while when y'all been up to.

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<v Speaker 8>Not much, just playing basketball?

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<v Speaker 6>Playing basketball?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, did y'all win something or something?

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<v Speaker 7>The other night?

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<v Speaker 8>We did?

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<v Speaker 13>We won the district championship.

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<v Speaker 8>Awesome what's next region? Yeah, okay, awesome. Well the bell

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<v Speaker 8>just rang. I'm getting ready to go to class.

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<v Speaker 4>Did y'all need something?

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<v Speaker 7>I know we haven't met in a while, but I

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<v Speaker 7>have some new information that needs to share and I think.

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<v Speaker 8>It changes every week.

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<v Speaker 11>More on that next time. Murder one oh one is

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<v Speaker 11>executive produced by Stephanie Leidecker, Alex Campbell, Courtney Armstrong, Andrew Arnout,

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<v Speaker 11>and me Jeff Shane. Additional producing by Connor Powell and

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<v Speaker 17>This is Alex Campbell, co host of Murder one oh one.

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<v Speaker 17>We hope you're enjoying season one. We asked that if

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<v Speaker 17>you know anything that could help police solve these cases,

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<v Speaker 17>that you contact the appropriate agencies with any information you

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<v Speaker 17>feel can help with their work to bring justice to

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<v Speaker 17>these women and their families. But we also asked that

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<v Speaker 17>if you feel you can help us continue to tell

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<v Speaker 17>these stories that you reach out to us with any

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<v Speaker 17>of the following information. Number one, if you have any

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<v Speaker 17>personal experiences with these victims that could help us tell

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<v Speaker 17>their stories as real people. Maybe you grew up with them,

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<v Speaker 17>worked with them, or are even related to them. If

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<v Speaker 17>you can shed light on the investigations going back to

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<v Speaker 17>the nineteen eighties, then maybe you worked with the cases,

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<v Speaker 17>such as a police officer, or maybe you were a

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<v Speaker 17>witness or even a journalist, that would also be very helpful.

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<v Speaker 17>And finally, if you have any information on our suspect,

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<v Speaker 17>maybe you grew up with him, you were in the

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<v Speaker 17>military with him, incarcerated with him, or maybe involved with

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<v Speaker 17>him through law enforcement such as his jailor guard or

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<v Speaker 17>parole officer. All those things can be helpful. We would

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<v Speaker 17>love to hear from any of you.

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