1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: It is Thursday, February twelfth, and we have a new note, 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: new leads and new searches in the case of Nancy Guthrie. 4 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: As so many signs and so much momentum seems to 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: be building towards possibly the break in this case. And 6 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Ropes. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: They talked about I got four thousand tips in the 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: twenty four hour period. We have to go back and 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: think this has to be of course it is connected 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: to what was the biggest break was seeing those surveillance 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: videos that they put out a couple days ago. 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: That's right, and the fact that they were able to 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: not just get images, but have that video so you 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: can see this masked person. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: There were a lot of clues. 17 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: From his eyes, to what he was wearing, the gun 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: he was carrying, the backpack he had on his back. 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 3: The hope is, yes, somewhere and those four thousand tips 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 3: that came in in a twenty four hour period of time, 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: that one of those tips will lead them to Nancy Guthrie. 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: But you have to go through every single and every one. 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: Of them, every single one and one of those is 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: what led to a person being detained this week, and 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: it's not out of the realm of possibility. We're going 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: to see more detainments. We're going to get into all 27 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: of this in just a moment, but I guess I 28 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: have to start with the more Again. There have been 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: twists and turns and bizarre happenings more so than huge 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: revelations and moving the case for But we got another note, 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: but this one apparently is not from a kidnapper demanding money, 32 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: and it also wasn't sent to the family, and it 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: wasn't sent to the police. 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: It was sent to TMZ once again. Now, according to TMZ, 35 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: this note basically said they couldn't get in touch with 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: They tried and failed to get in touch with Savannah 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: or Cameron for what what reason they're claiming they weren't 38 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: able to But yes, this note wants one bitcoin, which 39 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: they said the bitcoin address provided is legit. But that's 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: about sixty six thousand dollars now. And TMZ pointed this 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: out because the money the demand is to say we 42 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: know who the kidnapper is, we can give you or 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: put you in the right direction and hand over the suspect. 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: And as soon as we saw what this was about 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: I look, this is disgusting. I can help you solve 46 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: the crime, but you got to pay me first. That 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: it doesn't sound. 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: Legit, No it doesn't. 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: And TMZ pointed out that there's a fifty thousand dollars 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: reward right now from the FBI to anyone who gives 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 3: or hands over the information that leads to an arrest 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: or leads to finding Nancy Guthrie. So if they're demanding 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: sixty six thousand dollars, basically, why not just go ahead 54 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: and call in to the FBI and get your fifty 55 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. 56 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense. 57 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: This does not make sense. But this is I guess, 58 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: and they have to look. 59 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 2: At it and take it seriously until otherwise. But it 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: sure seems and sounds suspicious and robes if somebody is 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: out there, are you serious? Are you really inserting yourself 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: into this national story by saying I can solve this 63 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: crime for you, but you have to pay me first. 64 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: That's it's gross. 65 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: It's disgusting people trying to capitalize financially or just say 66 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,559 Speaker 3: they were a part of the story, inserting themselves. It's distracting. 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 3: It takes away resources and it's not. It's just it's 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: just ugly and honestly, it's criminal to be doing this. 69 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 3: So it's it's all of the above, but mostly it's 70 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: just sad that people would do this for whatever personal 71 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: gain they think they're getting out of it. 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: I guess we shouldn't be surprised, but I always am 73 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: robes in these moments. So even if this person, I 74 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: think is worse, if they do have legitimate information, that 75 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: means you can you can get this family out of 76 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 2: the pain they're in. But first I want I think 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: that's worse than if it's a scammer. 78 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. 79 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: If they're and they do have information, please let's not 80 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: hold the information hostage. Let's not use this as a 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: form of extortion. That's just awful. 82 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: That's a that you put it that way. They are 83 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: holding the family hostage, yes, over the mother being held hostage. Yeah, 84 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: they are, come on, y'all this so they have to 85 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: take it seriously. But just there's no feeling about this 86 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: that seems like, oh, this is the one or they 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: should follow this. It doesn't feel like that, at least 88 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: that the text of the note, according to TMZ said quote, 89 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: if they want the name of the individual involved, then 90 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: I want one bitcoin to the following wallet. Time is 91 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: more than relevant. 92 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: Ew that is terrible. 93 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, Robes, the note TMZ. This is the 94 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: what third one? I think they have gotten. This bitcoin 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: address that's attached to this one, they say is not 96 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: the same bitcoin address that's been attached to previous notes. 97 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: So this is kind of coming from somewhere else, somebody 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: else or Robes. I guess the FBI is probably looking 99 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: into the possibility that all these notes are coming from 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: the same person and using different techniques to try to 101 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: get money. But if you were asking for millions in 102 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: the other note, and all of a sudden you just 103 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: want sixty six thousand in the other it doesn't make 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: any sense. 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense. And again it is distracting. 106 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: Now they have to take away valuable resources that they 107 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: need to be tracking down real tips or perhaps the 108 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 3: tip that they need to uncover, and instead they got 109 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: to deal with this fool. 110 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: It's annoying, all right, So four thousand tips we said 111 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: in twenty four hours. They have to keep going through 112 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: every single one of them. But Robes, we are probably 113 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 2: going to see increased activity or new or different activity 114 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: over the next several days, including some searches that are 115 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: going on now because they're getting these tips and they're 116 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: following up on all of them. And sure enough, I 117 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: thought this was interesting at least. But they're focusing now 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 2: on every pathway and roadway that can leave her house 119 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: and go anywhere, is what they're doing now. 120 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: Right, because she had to be taken, so she had 121 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: to be transported somewhere, and that makes a lot of sense. 122 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: There aren't a lot of cameras. There aren't. 123 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: This is a rural area and so you don't have 124 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 3: the surveillance that you would have in a larger city. Unfortunately, 125 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: for the police trying to figure out how she was 126 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 3: taken somewhere in a vehicle from her home. They know 127 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: the time, they know the day, but they cannot figure 128 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: out where she was taken. 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: That is something they almost know to the minute. 130 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: Yes, when she left that house, her pacemaker stopped. 131 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: This and that happens when you get a certain distance 132 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: from your phone. They almost have the exact time and 133 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: can't figure out what direction robes. 134 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 1: I didn't know this I read earlier. 135 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: Well, there's great distance between the homes out there, so 136 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: you can't look out the window and see your neighbor's 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: house kind of thing. But there's also limited light. That 138 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 2: was intentional. They designed and zoned the area because they 139 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: didn't want too much light pollution. 140 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: Wow, and that's great and beautiful when you're staring up 141 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: but the gorgeous Arizona sky. But it's not helpful to 142 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: police when they're looking for vehicles or looking for license plates, 143 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: or looking for anything that would identify where she could be. 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: So these searches are going on, we should see more 145 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: activity because of all these tips they're following up. But Rob, 146 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: it was one of those tips, and the reason at 147 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: least the gentleman who said he was detained here recently, 148 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: he was detained because of a tip and they went. 149 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: And found him. 150 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: And sure he's not still detained, but the shriff is 151 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: telling local affiliates out there, Yeah, we're probably gonna end 152 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: up detaining more people. 153 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: Yes, that is what he said. 154 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: And look, he was wondering if it was because he 155 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: has a mustache and his eyes. They said that that 156 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: you can see when you zoom into these images that 157 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: the person wearing the ski mask, the masked man who 158 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: came to Nancy Guthrie's home on the night she went missing. 159 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: You can tell he has a mustache and he has 160 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: large eyes. When I looked at Carlos who was detained, 161 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: you can see where he has both of those features 162 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: that that might have also contry beat it to them 163 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: detaining him. 164 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: Ropes and this AI technology, all these things they can 165 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: do now, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if we are. 166 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: Surely they've used every bit of technology that every company 167 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: has available out there. Yes, suit unmask this individual. We 168 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: have seen stuff online on AI. I mean, you got 169 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: lawsuits and folks looking at some kind of possible ways 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: to regulate this. But there's technology that can essentially undress people. 171 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: Wow. 172 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: There, you know they're using every bit of technology on this. 173 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: I wonder if they have some kind of a sketch 174 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: they'll put out. I wonder if they'll have some kind 175 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: of idea of an image roapes because the technology is 176 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: crazy scary these days, but in a situation like this, 177 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: it could be wildly helpful. 178 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a good point. 179 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm wondering, even by looking at these images, now, can 180 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: they figure out how tall he is? 181 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 4: Can they figure out, you know, certain things. 182 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll be able to do that, so you 183 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: can actually get a description beyond a masked man. But 184 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: when you start really looking and they said, look, they 185 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: are looking at the type of backpack, the type of gloves, 186 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: the type of clothing. They actually know the backpack came 187 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: from Walmart, like they have gotten that specific because they're 188 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: trying to go back and figure out it looks like 189 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: a brand new backpack. 190 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 4: But he came prepared to do something. 191 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: And now they're trying to, like you said, undressed and 192 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 3: piece by piece whatever he had on him, to try 193 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: and connect a person to those items. 194 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: This will be the break, I mean, just ropes. 195 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: Everybody is looking for this guy and somebody to your 196 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: they say it and you was the first thing you said, 197 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: Look ToJ if you were out there dressed like. 198 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: That, I would know that was you. 199 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: I would know, especially seeing the movement. I know your 200 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: movements like that is a familiar thing. Someone's gait, how 201 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: someone carries himself. And he certainly was on camera long 202 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: enough where you could see that. Now the other headline, 203 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: and we don't know if it will amount to anything, 204 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 3: is this glove that was found? 205 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: What was it? A mile or so from Nancy Guthrie's house. 206 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: A black glove, no clue if it's the glove that 207 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: was you used by the kidnapper, certainly he had gloves 208 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: on Why one glove would be on the side of 209 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 3: the road could be a number of reasons, could be 210 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: from a lot of different people. But if it so 211 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: happens to be the glove right now, according to authorities, 212 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: they are doing what they would do with a potential 213 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: piece of evidence. 214 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: They are trying to see. 215 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 3: If any DNA, if there's anything in that glove that 216 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 3: links them to a person. 217 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: I mean, we can't help it in this country. But 218 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: I saw the headline. I'm like, did we really just 219 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: find another black glove? Yes, slaying around in some high 220 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: profile case or our minds immediately go to a certain place. 221 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: But who knows what's going to come out of this? 222 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: When as long as there isn't a white bronco involved, 223 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: I'm okay. 224 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: If there's a vehicle of any kind, we take it. 225 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: Is there anything going on here? All right? 226 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 5: Right? 227 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: But stay with us here, folks. 228 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: Another significant happening, and again it's not the most relevant thing, 229 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: but it's to be expected. I suppose what's happening over 230 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: at the Today Show right now. It's pretty incredible how 231 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: the audience at least right now is embracing that show 232 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: and also desperate for information. 233 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: Stay hear. 234 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: All right, We continue here on Amy and TJ on 235 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: this Thursday, now, February twelfth's giving you the latest on 236 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: the search for Nancy Guthrie. 237 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: A lot of headlines, not the one that so many. 238 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: People are waiting for, certainly the family as well, but 239 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: a lot of movement in this case. Do want to 240 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: mention Ropes There is no right now press conference. There's 241 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: nothing planned. We haven't had a formal one in days, 242 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: and he hasn't taken questions. He's kind of been updating 243 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: and they put some stuff out on social media, but 244 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: they're not talking to the press right now. 245 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: No, And look, I think it was a welcome relief 246 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: because those press conferences were basically him just saying the 247 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: little tiny bit of actual confirmable information they had. It 248 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: wasn't much and it certainly hasn't gotten any greater, and truthfully, 249 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: following all these leads, they don't want to tip their. 250 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: Hand, they don't want to let us know what they know, 251 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 4: what they have. 252 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: This is all going to be important, not only to 253 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 3: finding Nancy Guthrie and finding the person who took her, 254 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: but also if that does happen, being able to convict 255 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: that person. They keep things close to the best, and 256 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: so yes, those press conferences us pesky reporters ask a 257 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: lot of annoying questions, and he doesn't want to slip 258 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: up and show his hand or give away too much information. 259 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: Or be criticized as much as he has been for 260 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: some of his performers. Look got the pressure on him, 261 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: the FBI, all investigators, with all the eyes on this case. 262 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: You can't imagine the other thing. 263 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: Look the Today's show we spoke about let's see here 264 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: Robes holda left, Savannah al were left they they've been 265 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: there longer I believe as host to that show than 266 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: Craig has been getting at Here is Savannah Guthrie is 267 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: the centerpiece of that show. Of course, Okay, she is 268 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: the centerpiece of that show. Your main host is gone 269 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: off the show. You would think, Okay, that's gonna hurt viewership. 270 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: This is different, obviously, because that show is the focus 271 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: essentially of what is the biggest, most captivating crime story 272 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: many of us have seen in our lives happening right now. 273 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: So viewers have been going to that show. We knew 274 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: they were going to probably see an increase in viewership. 275 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 2: It's right now, obvious people are flooding to that show. 276 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: Yes, you and I even talked about this, knowing that 277 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: NBC and look, obviously, the number one most important thing 278 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: to Savannah, to anyone at the Today Show and certainly 279 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: to anyone covering it, is that Nancy Guthrie is found. 280 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: But we both said we were pretty sure that the 281 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: Today Show was going to get a huge spike in 282 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: ratings because people want to see what happens and also 283 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: just show their support. I think see how the other 284 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: anchors who know and love Savannah feel about it. It 285 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: just it feels like you're watching family in that sense, 286 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: and you're all on the same page because you're all 287 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 3: rooting for this eighty four year old woman to be found. 288 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: You're rallying around the show. 289 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: And my god, the ratings have absolutely shown that to 290 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: be true. 291 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they if we got a twenty three percent increase 292 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: in viewership year over year, that was in the most 293 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: completed the last details we got for the most completed 294 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: viewership week. But twenty three percent is unheard of in 295 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: this day and time of any type of viewership. It's 296 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: unheard of and this day and time of morning show viewership, 297 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: it just doesn't happen anymore. And yes it's happening now. 298 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: It's to be expected it. There is no one over 299 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: at NBC, I'm sure salivating and looking as going, ooh, 300 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: this is awesome. We got a great No, not at all. 301 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: But the viewers are certainly interested in this show. Excuse me, 302 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: the story and robes they're going to the place that 303 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: is the centerpiece of it. And it's a delicate balance. 304 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: How do you as the Today Show cover that story 305 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: as it's just a news story. 306 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: Because you're supposed to, Yeah, listen, more of that to them, 307 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 5: But they have to assign someone and do that story 308 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 5: independently and not appear as if they are trying to 309 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 5: take advantage. 310 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: Of what's happening. 311 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: It is a that's a good way to put a 312 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: delicate balance. But yes, it's not lost on them. I'm 313 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: sure that they gained six hundred and twenty four thousand 314 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: viewers last week who all tuned in to see the 315 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: latest on what's going on with Savannah and certainly how 316 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: the hosts are handling it. 317 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: And it is tough. 318 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: Look, you don't want to look like you're capitalizing on 319 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: someone's pain. You don't want to look like you're profiting 320 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: off of that pain in any way. And I think 321 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: they have done We haven't watched a lot of television, 322 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: but we know all of those folks, and they have 323 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: done a beautiful job in finding that balance of covering 324 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: the story but also making sure. Look, some of these 325 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: headlines are salacious, and some of the sources say stuff 326 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 3: just isn't true and only for headlines and bait. Obviously, 327 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: NBC News is going to be uber respectful about making 328 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: sure any information they put out is helpful and true. 329 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: Almost every time, before we started recording, you say, where 330 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: is this lady? Yeah, like, we just you can't believe 331 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: we're doing another update or we have you just can't believe. 332 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: And here we are road Saturday is a couple days away. 333 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: That is two full weeks since this woman was seen 334 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: by anyone. 335 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just sat down to record this and we said, 336 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: I cannot believe. We still don't know anything, and the 337 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 3: things that we thought we would find out or that 338 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: would unravel have not proven to be true. And now 339 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's so unusual, and we still don't 340 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: know who this person is, how they may or may 341 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: not be connected at all to the family in any way, 342 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: shape or form. 343 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 4: But this type of thing is so rare. 344 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: Strangers do not come up to your porch in the 345 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: middle of a random night and abduct an elderly person. 346 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: It just doesn't happen. 347 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: And that's why it's so confusing and it's so captivating, 348 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 3: because what in the actual hell is going on? 349 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: Gab We got confirmation she was kidnapped. 350 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: Authorities have not have not confirmed that they have heard 351 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: from a credible kidnapper. 352 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 4: It makes no sense. 353 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: Folks. 354 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: Will keep an eye on this one again. No press 355 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 2: briefings scheduled for today or anytime, not a single one 356 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 2: scheduled in this case. 357 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on it. 358 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: You can keep an eye on our feed that's always 359 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: top right corner of your Apple podcast app where you 360 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: see our show pace. There's a little blood that says 361 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: follow click that you can make sure all of our 362 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 2: updates come right to you for now. We always appreciate 363 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: you listening to us on TJ. Holmes on behalf of 364 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: My dear Amy Robock will talk to you very soon.