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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Congresswoman Gwen Moore is

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Speaker 1: watching all of this from her perch in Wisconsin's fourth district.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic congresswoman is with us right now live on

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg TV and radio. It's great to see you, Representative

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Speaker 1: more welcome back. Are you stockpiling tomatoes ahead of next week?

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Speaker 1: How do we deal with these tariffs?

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Speaker 2: Well, I tell you I do have a tomato plant

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Speaker 2: outside my back door, just in case.

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Speaker 1: You're doing it right apparently. How concerned are you about

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Speaker 1: the impact this could have on Wisconsin? Of course, a

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Speaker 1: major agriculture state, a major dairy state, as we enter

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Speaker 1: a whole new level of trade war, it seems with Canada.

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Speaker 2: Well, of course I'm very concerned. Years ago I asked

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Speaker 2: my youngest granddaughter where food came from, and she said,

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Speaker 2: pick and save. So I got worried. Then, you know,

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Speaker 2: the whole supply chain is going to be disrupted, everything

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Speaker 2: from farmers planning their foods to actually people who will

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Speaker 2: need and rely on snap and so this will affect grocers,

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Speaker 2: people who have jobs bagging grocers, groceries, inflation, the cost

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Speaker 2: of groceries, and our farmers and the only way that

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Speaker 2: this president seems to be able to address these things

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Speaker 2: is to try to provide a subsidy for agriculture workers

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Speaker 2: or to declare that he is not going to deport

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Speaker 2: Mexican migrants who might be working as agricultural workers. This

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Speaker 2: is a real big stretch in terms of saving our

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Speaker 2: economy and lowering costs.

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Speaker 3: Well, Congressman, I would mention in our audience on Bloomberg

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Speaker 3: TV as well as on YouTube, can see this. Now.

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Speaker 3: President Trump has just landed in Texas alongside First Lady

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Speaker 3: Milania Trump. They of course are now heading into the

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Speaker 3: helicopter and when they'll begin viewing some of the damaged

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Speaker 3: areas in an around Kerrville, Texas from last weekend's devastating floods.

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Speaker 3: When we consider a congressmom in the future of FEMA,

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Speaker 3: knowing President Trump has up until recently called for essentially

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Speaker 3: it's dismantling and sending that responsibility back to the States,

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Speaker 3: do you believe that that policy pursuit is one that

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Speaker 3: he will still actively pursue or could this disaster actually

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Speaker 3: spell a second chance for FEMA as it currently stands.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess I wish I could predict to what

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Speaker 2: President Trump was what was going to do, because I

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Speaker 2: would not have predicted that FEMA would have been destroyed

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Speaker 2: when we have seen a time and again, whether you

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Speaker 2: believe in climate change or not, the environmental the environment

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Speaker 2: be shifty calls, tornadoes, all kinds of five hundred year

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Speaker 2: weather conditions, and surprise, surprise, this storm was yet another

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Speaker 2: aggression on the part of Mother Nature and a warning

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Speaker 2: not to dismantle emergency services. I heard President Trump say,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have even blamed Joe Biden for this, you know,

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Speaker 2: but I'm telling you that there's nothing like preparedness and

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Speaker 2: nothing like being able to reach people on several different

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Speaker 2: platforms to warn them to escape. And so I think

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Speaker 2: that it's fine for him to be there with his wife.

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Speaker 2: That's where any president should be. And maybe it's better

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Speaker 2: late than never, But I think that the agony and

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Speaker 2: misery of this community is going to continue long after

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Speaker 2: the cameras are gone, long after Air Force one leaves.

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Speaker 1: Well. It is pretty heartbreaking to consider one hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy people still missing. Congresswomen in Texas is one of

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Speaker 1: many states that has seen an influx in ice raids.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Texas is a border state. And is no

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Speaker 1: stranger to immigration security here. But I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about some of the raids that we have been seeing,

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Speaker 1: in many cases by unmarked and masked individuals who are

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Speaker 1: purportedly with ICE or sometimes it's hard to tell. Border

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Speaker 1: Patrol Department of Homeland Security. You just signed a letter

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Speaker 1: urging ICE to not deport undocumented victims of crime. Did

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Speaker 1: you hear a response from the federal government from the

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Speaker 1: administration on this? Is there anything your office can do

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Speaker 1: to help them?

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Speaker 2: No, the response is hopefully forthcoming. There's nothing more frightening

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Speaker 2: to me to think of someone throwing a bag over

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Speaker 2: my head and dragging me away. This is so Unamerican.

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Speaker 2: To not announce which law enforcement agent you are, demonstrating

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Speaker 2: your badge number, and that you have the authority to

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Speaker 2: take people into custody. This is very chilling, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's being done deliberately to replicate the tactics of

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Speaker 2: authoritarian regimes. This is totally unacceptable and to devise people's

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not an attorney, but I would think

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Speaker 2: that if you need a warrant, you would at least

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Speaker 2: need to disclose who you are as a law enforcement person.

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Speaker 2: This is totally unacceptable.

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Speaker 3: Well, Congressman, when we consider ICE will be getting more

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Speaker 3: funding along with customs and border patrol due to the

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Speaker 3: one big, beautiful bill that just passed in all the

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Speaker 3: various components in it, with the passage of that bill,

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Speaker 3: with the potential passage of now a recisions package that

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Speaker 3: could very well happen in the Senate, do Democrats have

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Speaker 3: any incentive to deal with Republicans for a government funding deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, we always have an incentive to do our job

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Speaker 2: if we're allowed to do our job. You know. The

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Speaker 2: thing about the package now is that it's the largest

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Speaker 2: border bill that we have seen in history, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know that it's always directed at the right the

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Speaker 2: right equipment. Democrats have long been for more electronic surveillance,

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Speaker 2: more human beings, to actually evaluate and separate the sheep

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Speaker 2: from the goat, as it were, at the border. We

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Speaker 2: have always aired on the side of more border security,

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Speaker 2: you know. But the building, the optics of you know,

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Speaker 2: putting people, you know, surrounding them by alligators, this is

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Speaker 2: this is a costly It costs so much money to uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, the optics Alcatraz, for example, it costs more

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Speaker 2: money than it's worth in terms of being of incarcerating people.

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Speaker 2: I think that the overkill is not only bad for

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Speaker 2: people's personal rights, but for our budget.

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Speaker 3: All right, Congresswoman, we appreciate your time. As always, Democratic

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Speaker 3: Congresswoman Gwen Moore representing Wisconsin's fourth district here with us

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Speaker 3: on balance of power