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Speaker 1: laid Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am coming to
Speaker 1: you from a country filled with heroes. In Bunker's Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler and Greg Rosenthal in Los Angeles, Ricky Hollywood. Also
Speaker 1: it appears in Los Angeles. What's up? Boys and girls?
Speaker 1: Hey Danna, We're back. Welcome back, welcome back. It's good
Speaker 1: to be back a week away. As you can tell
Speaker 1: from my background here on the video stream, I'm back
Speaker 1: in Texas, got the big shuffle board table behind me,
Speaker 1: and I essentially unplugged. Went off the grid in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways last week as we turn our attention
Speaker 1: to a completely bizarre UH trainee camp scenario that may
Speaker 1: or may not be happening, and we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: all of that on today's show. But yeah, I went
Speaker 1: fishing yesterday. That was nice. Made a pizza on the
Speaker 1: grill yesterday. So I know this is not an easy
Speaker 1: time for a lot of people. So I don't want
Speaker 1: to brag too much, but it's you know that, what
Speaker 1: is that saying they say you can go to you
Speaker 1: can all go to hell. I'll go to Texas. Sometimes
Speaker 1: that's what it feels like down here at Lake l
Speaker 1: b J. And I do have a little bit of
Speaker 1: guilt about it, to be honest. How about you, Mark,
Speaker 1: what did you do last week? Well? You know, I
Speaker 1: I often UM take issue with you enjoying life more
Speaker 1: than me, but I and this time around, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm happy for you. No, I mean
Speaker 1: I feel I come off that way, and I'm happy
Speaker 1: for you that you found a good situation for the
Speaker 1: family down there. I saw a picture of Jack who
Speaker 1: was in a hammock, looked very comfortable. I think that
Speaker 1: is Um, You've handled it very well, and I'm happy
Speaker 1: for you. I would say my week was I like you,
Speaker 1: I disappeared, UM. I didn't really have a chance to
Speaker 1: put pizzas onto grills and things. But UM, I ate
Speaker 1: some pizza here and there, and I watched a bunch
Speaker 1: of movies. And I'll tell you the other thing I
Speaker 1: did was I held out this little hope that the
Speaker 1: weak sojourn away from UM the podcast would somehow remove
Speaker 1: or wipe away or sanitize all the ugliness that we've
Speaker 1: dealt with for UM essentially months and it didn't do
Speaker 1: a thing. You come back and and it's it's it's
Speaker 1: all still they're waiting for you. So, um, we've got you.
Speaker 1: We're not out of the woods yet. On the offseason front.
Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the woods. So you look
Speaker 1: in all directions and all you see is woods. Well right,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a similar wood situation except adding to that.
Speaker 1: Adding to that is we're gonna have a lot more
Speaker 1: work ultimately. Uh, not that we haven't been working, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna have more uh coming and trying to get
Speaker 1: marked to run away. We already downs right now. We
Speaker 1: can't lose sel No, no, we can't. Um fishing though,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say fishing underrated, but I guess I
Speaker 1: guess people are kind of on top of that. Fishing
Speaker 1: is great. But as someone who has not experienced fishing much,
Speaker 1: the few times in my life that I want fishing
Speaker 1: um with my wife, I mean it it it it,
Speaker 1: It's underrated. I wish I could do it more. I
Speaker 1: kind of think fishing is properly rated. Um I was.
Speaker 1: I was actually doing it legit where you're you got
Speaker 1: the hook and you're putting bait on it, so you
Speaker 1: when you try to put an earthworm, for instance, onto
Speaker 1: a hook and then it shoots poop on your fingernail
Speaker 1: and you're like, what earthworms poop? What's that? It was unnecessary? Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's like dirt that they're pooping, and it's just
Speaker 1: like what is their quality of life? And then yesterday
Speaker 1: I'm putting live minnows on the on on on the
Speaker 1: hook and I'm just as I grew up in the suburbs,
Speaker 1: but compared to everyone else down here, I'm a city boy.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about that poor middow. Mark. You know
Speaker 1: you leave that, you leave that vegan lifestyle. When I
Speaker 1: stick a hook through a living minnow to try to
Speaker 1: use it to entice another fish to eat him, what
Speaker 1: are we doing here with the fishing industry? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems a tad unnecessary, But I I this is
Speaker 1: coming from someone that's spent um long Saturday's putting earthworms
Speaker 1: under like sun through a microscope and watch them squirm.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying recently but as a child, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, biology comes up to us in many forms.
Speaker 1: So Mark was doing last week just like killing earthworks.
Speaker 1: Well it was last week. Things to do around here, sir, Um,
Speaker 1: how are you, Erica? I'm good, good, refresh, I'm not
Speaker 1: like killing. When you hear that little like click sound,
Speaker 1: that's Erica has the mute button on her mic. She's like,
Speaker 1: can I get through this open without having to pay attention?
Speaker 1: And then the clicks like, oh god, scramble time. No,
Speaker 1: there was a dumpster was getting picked up by the
Speaker 1: garbage truck and I was trying to keep the beeping
Speaker 1: off of the show. Um but a producer, Yeah, exactly, No,
Speaker 1: I was good. I went to the beach yesterday. I
Speaker 1: went on like a five mile hike on Saturday. You know,
Speaker 1: we outdoors. What's going on in California? Aren't they shutting?
Speaker 1: That's placed down again? It doesn't matter, pretty shut down, honest.
Speaker 1: Outdoors are free, you know the outdoors. It's been beautiful weather.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, last week I feel like I was
Speaker 1: up and down at least with my kids. But the
Speaker 1: more outdoors we can do on the weekend the better.
Speaker 1: At least that that part of it. I feel like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm in California. You know that that's the
Speaker 1: part that's okay. And I should be honest because I
Speaker 1: haven't been to this point. Right behind me, you guys
Speaker 1: could see, well, I gotta go this way. I guess. Um.
Speaker 1: It says on the wall behind me Bob's and you
Speaker 1: might think that's Bob Bates Dds, my father in law
Speaker 1: on the wall his name, but no, it's actually I'm
Speaker 1: in Bill O'Brien's here in Texas. I've in the summer house,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, based on what I'm hearing, yes,
Speaker 1: what you might expect to be true, he's a little
Speaker 1: bit tense, a little bit yeah. Well one media supporter
Speaker 1: out there. Dad, I want to, uh, you know, embrace
Speaker 1: you and give you this free lodging for this summer.
Speaker 1: You've always stood by me. Dan. It's not the attic
Speaker 1: recreational area I would have imagined for Billy. What do
Speaker 1: you think? What's that doing? You call this a room?
Speaker 1: This is a big style. I want you to straighten
Speaker 1: up this area. Now you are a disgusting slop. Bill,
Speaker 1: Come on give me I'm doing a podcast here already
Speaker 1: in conflict. Well, he doesn't like power. He he doesn't
Speaker 1: lose power struggle, So I don't like this your chance
Speaker 1: to do. He thinks he could just storm up upstairs
Speaker 1: in his own home and be raped me during a
Speaker 1: popular NFL podcast. Well he's got another thing coming all right.
Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, we'll get you caught up
Speaker 1: to date with all COVID related matter matters in the
Speaker 1: NFL and training camp which actually technically opens today for
Speaker 1: the Texans and Chiefs who rookies report today, and we'll
Speaker 1: get into what that means, what is that actually it's
Speaker 1: not your traditional type of reporting, uh, And whether or
Speaker 1: not the rest of the teams are gonna follow because
Speaker 1: things are getting more and more complicated by the day,
Speaker 1: by the hour. We're also going to spend the win
Speaker 1: wheel of teams get you some other updates since Mark
Speaker 1: and I have been gone, Let's hit the news. Ricky,
Speaker 1: You're in our thoughts and you have our full support
Speaker 1: for the fight that you're about to go through. You know,
Speaker 1: fingers cross female good luck can never sing Stacy stupile,
Speaker 1: and you know we'll see on this other side. And
Speaker 1: I hope to hear your voice in the podcast again soon.
Speaker 1: Life is the pharamon. I'll say this, We're we're all
Speaker 1: written for you, where every one of us of his
Speaker 1: money supports what your back ground is. We all want
Speaker 1: you to this awesome video put together by at NFL
Speaker 1: with NIA showed up this weekend and a bunch of
Speaker 1: overseas listeners UM giving their best wishes to our friend
Speaker 1: Chris Wesling, who of course is fighting the Big Sea
Speaker 1: once again and he's in the middle of treatment right
Speaker 1: now and he's hoping to get back on the show
Speaker 1: soon but it's just a matter of making it work
Speaker 1: and his body cooperating with him. So but thank you
Speaker 1: to NIA and everyone that UM recorded messages for West
Speaker 1: because it definitely makes a difference, and I know West
Speaker 1: was touched by it. Yeah, it's amazing. He even made
Speaker 1: a joke responding on Twitter. You know, let's keep it
Speaker 1: a secret. I guess I'm blowing the secret. But you
Speaker 1: know he's got a special place in his heart for
Speaker 1: the for the UK, in the overseas listeners, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: even his favorites, and uh, I don't know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know it was not an easy week in West
Speaker 1: has has sent out some messages about that and not
Speaker 1: speaking for him on his Instagram, So stuff like this
Speaker 1: really does UM touch him. It's awesome. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that like the toughest thing is to be going through
Speaker 1: it a second time because for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you think, oh, he's into the journey, and he completed
Speaker 1: it and it was this huge moment of victory. But um,
Speaker 1: it's very good to see how many people are rallying
Speaker 1: around Chris with twice the strength. Um this time, all right,
Speaker 1: let us get into it. And yes, uh West, I
Speaker 1: know you're listening. Well, maybe he's listening. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I mean that could be wrong, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's he's got a lot on his plate.
Speaker 1: I mean, does this show he is he's the burden?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not. It's just like there's not
Speaker 1: you know, it's also not there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: football news going on right now. Right, I'm gonna be wrong.
Speaker 1: I have no idea. You can tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: When during my week's stay in l A before I
Speaker 1: got the hell back to Texas, did get a chance
Speaker 1: to see West Erica. You were there as well, uh
Speaker 1: Link in Lakisha, and that was awesome and they were
Speaker 1: all in very positive spirits. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: the baby was in positive spirits, but he seemed to
Speaker 1: be happy. He can't really talk or anything. But Western Latika,
Speaker 1: as you would imagine, UM in a very good emotional
Speaker 1: place in terms of their strength, as you'd imagine. So
Speaker 1: best wishes to them and we're gonna be along with
Speaker 1: on the ride with them. All right, let's get into
Speaker 1: the news in the NFL. Let's start with something that
Speaker 1: happened over the weekend. On Sunday, NFL players jumped on
Speaker 1: Twitter in mass in a coordinated effort, UH two kind
Speaker 1: of got the NFL to play ball with them and
Speaker 1: uh and comply with some guidelines that experts have thrown
Speaker 1: out there on safely opening training camps amid the Corona
Speaker 1: coronavirus pandemic. Many of the players used the hashtag we
Speaker 1: want to play with their tweets, which to me brought
Speaker 1: back memories of baseball's infernal labor struggle that happened a
Speaker 1: couple of months back. Uh, but I believe it was
Speaker 1: similar sentiment, we want to play and it's it's a
Speaker 1: situation where the players and this is a group of
Speaker 1: star players that all sent out tweets Sunday, Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, Miles Garrett, uh, you name it. Big stars
Speaker 1: from across the spectrum of the league, Michael Thomas UH saying,
Speaker 1: if you guys can't get on board with um A
Speaker 1: a plan that is focused and is out in front
Speaker 1: of us ahead of reporting for training camp, well we
Speaker 1: don't know how we can play football. And now it's
Speaker 1: basically firing greg an Arrow at the NFL. Uh, let's talk.
Speaker 1: Let's figure this out, because I feel like maybe we've
Speaker 1: wasted some time here this summer. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: NFL and this country is in a place they didn't
Speaker 1: expect two months ago. You know, whether you want to
Speaker 1: criticize whether they should have expected it better or not,
Speaker 1: I'm that interested in it. I just think the players
Speaker 1: all talking as one voice, UH is fascinating because I
Speaker 1: think they learned how powerful social media can be in
Speaker 1: that way, you know, this summer after after George Floyd's killing,
Speaker 1: and and I think it's a totally different matter, but
Speaker 1: I think it is different than let's say another time
Speaker 1: when the players in in the NFL, we're going back
Speaker 1: and forth, Let's say, like during the lockout, you know,
Speaker 1: ten years ago, and they're using this voice to get there,
Speaker 1: UM say out there. I also think, though, as someone
Speaker 1: like us watching from afar, I'm just gonna kind of
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch and see because everyone is in a
Speaker 1: crazy hurry, how do you know? But what is to me,
Speaker 1: what is the huge hurry? Like okay, that the players
Speaker 1: are are showing up today apparently in Kansas City and
Speaker 1: Houston just to get tested, and the NFL and the
Speaker 1: union are talking today and they've basically been talking every day.
Speaker 1: And if things don't get settled, we'll see if the
Speaker 1: veterans are actually showing up and we'll see how this
Speaker 1: on ramping is um. But I'm not like panicked about
Speaker 1: it because I'm not that like fascinated by this play
Speaker 1: by play of what's going to happen, Like, let's see
Speaker 1: where we are in a really a week from now.
Speaker 1: A lot of the issues are getting worked out. It
Speaker 1: is incredibly complex, and I guess that's part of the
Speaker 1: thing where I'm not freaking out, Like it is an
Speaker 1: incredibly complex problem that the testing has to be figured out,
Speaker 1: the money has to be figured out most more than anything,
Speaker 1: the safety has to be figured out, and the testing
Speaker 1: especially is something that to me is like there is
Speaker 1: no good solution there. There literally is no good solution
Speaker 1: to the testing, and so I'm curious how they're gonna
Speaker 1: pull it off. But but like anyone saying that it's
Speaker 1: just like easy and that they should have it figured out,
Speaker 1: I think are are unrealistic. Yeah, you know, Demorris Smith
Speaker 1: wrote um the MQB this week. He's the NFLPA executive director,
Speaker 1: and he used the term perfect problems with imperfect solutions,
Speaker 1: And I mean, if you want to spend positively, you
Speaker 1: could look at what the NHL just released that out
Speaker 1: of eight hundred players that they tested, that two were positive.
Speaker 1: That there is a chance that football can happen. That's
Speaker 1: in the players. You know. The whole point was we
Speaker 1: want to play, but we want to mow down UM
Speaker 1: these topics that were in a union battle over And
Speaker 1: I think that things like the opt out language for
Speaker 1: certain players with pre existing conditions or family members with such,
Speaker 1: they want that clearly UM put in writing before the
Speaker 1: season begins or training camp begins. That the frequency of
Speaker 1: testing has to do with if it's a twenty four
Speaker 1: hour test, that's the quickest you can get a response. Well,
Speaker 1: you don't want to find out that you had a
Speaker 1: false negative or a false positive and you've been in
Speaker 1: contact with thirty five people, and that's been a major
Speaker 1: sticking point for them. I mean, to me, you gotta
Speaker 1: get you gotta get the tests. That's part of it.
Speaker 1: I think people are on understanding that these are happening
Speaker 1: in thirty two different places, and I don't have the
Speaker 1: details of how the NFL is setting settling all this,
Speaker 1: but you know where you are, Dan, where we are Florida.
Speaker 1: Like they're in a different, very different place in terms
Speaker 1: of testing. There's an ethical question I think to it too,
Speaker 1: that ultimately only essential workers who are symptomatic are getting
Speaker 1: test back that quickly, So you're basically saying we're more
Speaker 1: important than people that are sick in your state. That
Speaker 1: it's a totally separate question. But the like logistics of
Speaker 1: how that's all going to be set up, whether it's
Speaker 1: daily or every other day, is like hugely complex, And
Speaker 1: unlike the NHL and the NBA, they're not going to
Speaker 1: be in a bubble. They're just they're just out there
Speaker 1: living in these communities. Yeah, Michael Thomas of the Saints
Speaker 1: had a tweet, why isn't the NFL doing what the
Speaker 1: NBA is doing listening to their players. Well, we've talked
Speaker 1: about this on the show. It's much different with the
Speaker 1: NBA is trying to pull off with this bubble in
Speaker 1: Orlando for the end of their season in this playoff
Speaker 1: they're doing, and what the NFL's task with doing, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, thousands of people in terms of personnel, players,
Speaker 1: coaches and make it all work. And I've seen it.
Speaker 1: I saw it a number of websites on social media
Speaker 1: of course, kind of fire and brimstone attacking the NFL,
Speaker 1: like why are we only now here? Why is this
Speaker 1: all coming to a head now? Why why hasn't the
Speaker 1: NFL planned for this ahead of time. I can guarantee you,
Speaker 1: without being a shill for the league on any level,
Speaker 1: that everyone behind the scenes on Park Avenue has been
Speaker 1: trying to figure this out for months and months and months.
Speaker 1: But they're just like the rest of us ultimately, where
Speaker 1: I think it's it's hard to kind of work it
Speaker 1: out and find out what you can and what cannot
Speaker 1: cannot do. And what we just saw with baseball when
Speaker 1: you look at the relationship between the union and the league,
Speaker 1: and maybe this is the only place where you could
Speaker 1: give it to the NFL a little bit in terms
Speaker 1: of criticism that maybe there should have been more runway
Speaker 1: for communication between those two sides, because that's just a
Speaker 1: part of professional sports as a business that there's not
Speaker 1: always going to be seeing eye to eye in that
Speaker 1: real well. And you know, I'm always tough on baseball
Speaker 1: and sometimes Dana gets us into um two issues on
Speaker 1: the on that front. But you know what, it's it's
Speaker 1: unfair that, like simply baseball was paying for this because
Speaker 1: the whole country was thinking a little bit differently in
Speaker 1: May into June, when um, we thought things were changing
Speaker 1: and they weren't. And by the way, you can point to,
Speaker 1: you know, the Black plague or the Bubonic plague as
Speaker 1: as learning points for what our society is going through.
Speaker 1: But come on, I mean, everyone's going through it for
Speaker 1: the first time. And I don't think there was a
Speaker 1: sixty day period where NFL officials are just like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go sit by the pool and not focus on this.
Speaker 1: I mean, this situation, to Greg's point, has changed almost
Speaker 1: weekly daily and and at this point they're doing all
Speaker 1: they can. But it's it's not surprising. And Judy Batista
Speaker 1: pointed out that um, she used the word befuddled, that
Speaker 1: a number of league sources were like befuddled by the
Speaker 1: players Sunday tweet storm, if that's what you want to
Speaker 1: call it. I think from the union side, it's just
Speaker 1: that there are these unanswerable human questions. Do we want
Speaker 1: everyone to play yes? Is there a chance that that's possible.
Speaker 1: I mean they went into the chief's facility and Andy
Speaker 1: Reid talked about how pristine the setup is, how he
Speaker 1: believes it can work. I just think that even with
Speaker 1: that positive approach, you still have to realize there are
Speaker 1: human issues here and that every player has people at
Speaker 1: home and other things that just create these union sticking points. Well,
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, Tom Pellisero reported today was one of
Speaker 1: three teams that have been approved out of the thirty two,
Speaker 1: only thirty two out of the three by an independent UM,
Speaker 1: you know, doctors saying that they're set up is safe
Speaker 1: to start going to work, and they're set up to
Speaker 1: be clear, is they're just testing these rookies for a
Speaker 1: couple of days. Then they're just testing um, you know,
Speaker 1: the coaches that they're not really doing anything, and then
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a very slow on ramping process. I
Speaker 1: think people need to understand that too. In the NFL's
Speaker 1: best case scenario where this goes is absolutely smoothly. Training
Speaker 1: camp still isn't gonna look anything like training camp, not
Speaker 1: for a while. It's gonna be an acclamation period where
Speaker 1: the players are working out in smaller groups. Then it's
Speaker 1: gonna build up to some non contact stuff on the
Speaker 1: field and smaller groups. And in a best case scenario,
Speaker 1: the teams are showing up on the twenty eight. And
Speaker 1: that's why the players are pushing back, because the NFL
Speaker 1: is saying show up on the twenty eight. The day
Speaker 1: is still uh the same, and they and we're not
Speaker 1: really at a place where they can do that. Everything
Speaker 1: is not all you know, figured out, but they hope
Speaker 1: to be I guess by the twenty eight. And in
Speaker 1: the best case scenario, like I was saying, in this plan,
Speaker 1: we're three weeks away from what I think people would
Speaker 1: really understand as a normal training camp. So so even
Speaker 1: even in a case where things go well, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be like it was in The NFL is already
Speaker 1: giving up one of those preseason games. So we saw
Speaker 1: today in the NFL's latest proposal that they're down to
Speaker 1: just hoping for one preseason game. So that's why I'm
Speaker 1: not like freaking out about what these proposals are. It
Speaker 1: was it was four games two weeks ago, it was
Speaker 1: two games a week ago, and now it's down to
Speaker 1: one game, and we'll see if we have that game
Speaker 1: or not. I'm not gonna like analyze when we get
Speaker 1: that game or not. You know, it's just like we'll
Speaker 1: find out then. And please, Yeah, if do we do
Speaker 1: end up with one preseason game, which I don't think
Speaker 1: there's even gonna be one, please do not put too
Speaker 1: much into the results of that week. I imagine if
Speaker 1: players are still salty about there even being a preseason game,
Speaker 1: and starters don't want to play in that game, the
Speaker 1: coaches don't want to mutiny on their hands. They'll say,
Speaker 1: you don't want to play, you don't have to play,
Speaker 1: and they'll just play guys at the bottom of the roster,
Speaker 1: and that could become something of a force akin to
Speaker 1: maybe a week four the preseason. That's all stuff to
Speaker 1: be on the radar, And I'll go ahead, Mark No,
Speaker 1: I was just say, wouldn't that be the only real
Speaker 1: use of a preseason game? Yeah, the only real copaint.
Speaker 1: None of us like preseason games. But you know, coaches
Speaker 1: have to make these tough decisions between your seventh and
Speaker 1: eighth best cornerback, like use the game for that. Maybe
Speaker 1: it would on our It would also be to practice
Speaker 1: whatever competition is gonna be like from it from an
Speaker 1: admitt look sort of an organizational and I'm sure the
Speaker 1: NFL is very concerned about that. So it would be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a dry run of like how
Speaker 1: can we actually run a game, um before there's twenty
Speaker 1: five million people or whatever it is on Sunday afternoon
Speaker 1: in week one. And like I said earlier, the first
Speaker 1: part of training camp did start today a Chiefs and
Speaker 1: Texans rookies because they're playing the opening Thursday night games,
Speaker 1: so they get a little bit more of a run up.
Speaker 1: They reported to their facilities. The plan is they will
Speaker 1: get tested UH at the facility on Monday and Tuesday,
Speaker 1: then they go UH. Then they will return to their
Speaker 1: team headquarters for a physical on Thursday if the tests
Speaker 1: come back clean, and then once UH, if that all
Speaker 1: goes to plan, they could begin strength and conditioning in
Speaker 1: groups of no larger than fifteens. According to a report
Speaker 1: from Bleacher Reports, So that's what that's training camp this
Speaker 1: week in the NFL. And UH, it's different. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be different, and you just hope it gets off the ground.
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh apparently expressed doubt that this is going to
Speaker 1: happen on time on July. We're all gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of like we're saying, just like the news about the
Speaker 1: virus seems to change our by our we are plan
Speaker 1: will as well. We're all like, you know, living through
Speaker 1: the movie Tenant, you know, moving it's it's released day
Speaker 1: back every two weeks. That is parallel is the country.
Speaker 1: Because for as much as we want to kill the
Speaker 1: NFL or what, and there's a lot of just anger
Speaker 1: and everything, I did go back and read some stuff
Speaker 1: from early May, and it's like there wasn't there was
Speaker 1: no expectation and and that's our own naivety and our
Speaker 1: own people had too much faith in the government, are
Speaker 1: in everything. That there was no expectation that cases would
Speaker 1: be double what they were back in May. There's no
Speaker 1: expectation that the testing problem that really I think is
Speaker 1: crucial for these teams um would be in a worse
Speaker 1: situation in a lot of places, and that this uneven
Speaker 1: balance of like hey, a couple of you know, some
Speaker 1: of these teams are actually an okay, shape to go back.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me then, I'm wondering your thoughts. Hearing
Speaker 1: today that Jets and Giants are already announcing that there
Speaker 1: won't be fans of the crowd. It's interesting that they
Speaker 1: were the first teams to announce that because New Jersey,
Speaker 1: New York actually, you know, in terms of having the
Speaker 1: the you know, virus under control is in a better
Speaker 1: shape than than virtually any place right now. But they've
Speaker 1: been through it and they sort of know that that,
Speaker 1: you know, they can't risk anything. They want to keep
Speaker 1: it that way and have a ton of all of
Speaker 1: my families in New York and New Jersey and things
Speaker 1: are a lot better there right now, and that's why
Speaker 1: they don't want people coming into the area right now.
Speaker 1: They want to keep it that way. And the idea
Speaker 1: of you know, getting out of the hell that was
Speaker 1: in March April May in the Tri state area and
Speaker 1: then saying well, we're fine now, so let's get people
Speaker 1: into to a stadium. I'm glad there's leadership there that
Speaker 1: understands that's a needless risk. So that's good New Wait
Speaker 1: you hear that, Oh what kind of a man are you?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to work for a week, do nothing. You
Speaker 1: are nothing. You're sitting here all day and play that sick,
Speaker 1: repulsive electric twinger. I want any lord guitar. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't get Dan. I don't understand that here. Well, right
Speaker 1: you have. I guess you didn't play shuffleboard by yourself.
Speaker 1: He doesn't sound like he wants to play with you.
Speaker 1: What are the I got such a nice impression of
Speaker 1: Bill at home with his family and his you know,
Speaker 1: his children, his wife when they when they had a
Speaker 1: hard knocks that really humanized him. And this is a
Speaker 1: different side of him at home. I'm surprised. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess when NFL films cameras aren't on him. Do you
Speaker 1: see what really happens? Again? Another also shot across the
Speaker 1: bow of the podcast industry that's out that, oh, there's
Speaker 1: no signal that could be sent down to here to
Speaker 1: bring me down, so I'll just be my natural self. Well,
Speaker 1: Bill jokes on you bro use it as revenge and
Speaker 1: other news. Alright, this broke last week. Obviously, we know
Speaker 1: that the uh Redskins no longer there now the Washington
Speaker 1: football team for the time being, as they figure out
Speaker 1: what their new name will be. Later in the week,
Speaker 1: the Washington Post dropped the bombshell report about misconduct within
Speaker 1: the organization over the last uh, what was it, two decades,
Speaker 1: accusations from fifteen women of sexual harassment and verbal assault
Speaker 1: against former club club officials. And there's obviously gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of fallout from that, as there should be,
Speaker 1: and the Post reported that the NFL will consider disciplining
Speaker 1: the team, but it is not expected to force Daniel
Speaker 1: Snyder to sell the team, at least that's where we
Speaker 1: are right now. That was an initial thought, and we
Speaker 1: saw different circumstances with Jerry Richardson and the Panthers a
Speaker 1: couple of years back when he was very quickly forced
Speaker 1: to sell the team because of some very ugly issues
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes there. Right now, it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like Snyder will be forced out of the league
Speaker 1: at this point, but a fine could be coming, and
Speaker 1: a hefty one at that. You would think it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like it's gonna happen. You know that any force
Speaker 1: out's gonna happen quickly, But there is more um, there's
Speaker 1: more pressure about it than than ever before. You know,
Speaker 1: Peter King certain you know, writing in a column saying
Speaker 1: why Snyder has to go. UM that he's not the
Speaker 1: only one, UM, you know, to be to be saying
Speaker 1: these sort of things, and I do. I think it's
Speaker 1: just interesting, you know, more than anyone, you know, Fred Smith,
Speaker 1: the owner of FedEx, the minority owner of the Redskins,
Speaker 1: is pushing for this in his own subtle way. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not saying it, but he's trying to get out,
Speaker 1: and all the other minority owners of the team are
Speaker 1: trying to get out, according to the Washington Post, and
Speaker 1: that's been the case before this report. And UM, I
Speaker 1: think we've seen this year and we've seen it with
Speaker 1: the Washington name change, which is, you know, another thing
Speaker 1: that organization is trying to deal with in a very
Speaker 1: quick manner. It's very complicated. UM. You know, money is
Speaker 1: what changes. You know, money, money is what UM forces change.
Speaker 1: At least it has a lot this summer. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that the minority owners trying to get out.
Speaker 1: It does leave it to me kind of an unsettled
Speaker 1: situation that it maybe it's not happening quickly, but it's
Speaker 1: something I think everyone around the NFL is gonna be
Speaker 1: watching pretty closely over the next season the next year. Well,
Speaker 1: and the problem with sports ownership is that, um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it hinges on the money that you spoke about,
Speaker 1: and if you have it, you can just stay in
Speaker 1: the role. And you know, even even if you want
Speaker 1: to just look at it from a football perspective, what
Speaker 1: we like to look at these coaches and say, well,
Speaker 1: what do the what does a coach bring to the
Speaker 1: fold other than simply being in the position. What is
Speaker 1: what is Daniel Snyder do well? They have one playoff win, Um,
Speaker 1: since he took over the team. In that was when
Speaker 1: our friend Chris Simms, um knocked out what they basically
Speaker 1: beat Chris Simms and John Gruden, that old box. You're
Speaker 1: going friends with him now, your friend, your buddies. Well,
Speaker 1: he's not an enemy, he's the oppositeve. I like him
Speaker 1: quite a bit. But I'm just gonna ask you what
Speaker 1: is Daniel Snyder do well at all? And I feel,
Speaker 1: if anything, from an on field perspective, that we're losing
Speaker 1: one of the better fan bases and now in general
Speaker 1: Washington is embroiled in total madness. Um, what's been going
Speaker 1: on there? You try to tell me that the owner
Speaker 1: didn't know about any of that. UM, I simply don't
Speaker 1: buy it. I would be do you need deep cutting changes?
Speaker 1: Snyder issued a statement frauday through the team. The behavior
Speaker 1: described in yesterday's Washington Post article is no place in
Speaker 1: our franchise or society. The story has strengthened my commitment
Speaker 1: to setting a new culture and standard for our team,
Speaker 1: a process that began with the hiring of coach Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera earlier this year. Rivera is being hoisted up as
Speaker 1: kind of the symbol of change in Washington. UM. And
Speaker 1: I guess from that viewpoint, you could look at this
Speaker 1: job he has now as a great opportunity for him
Speaker 1: personally because of the if I almost said it, if
Speaker 1: Washington does go and turn it around and things clean
Speaker 1: up behind the scenes, he's going to get a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for that. Uh, and he probably will deserve it,
Speaker 1: because he's a guy that has been in the league
Speaker 1: for a while and knows what he's doing. Conversely, it's
Speaker 1: a very tough job that he just took because the
Speaker 1: team has been kind of messy for years now, and UH,
Speaker 1: it's been dysfunctional, and he is now the guy in
Speaker 1: charge of not only on some level, cleaning up things
Speaker 1: on the field, but also being a agent of change
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. That's a lot of work for one
Speaker 1: guy to do, right And if you think about the
Speaker 1: coaches that have tried that and failed. I mean Joe
Speaker 1: Gibbs under Dan Snyder, hall of Famer in two sports.
Speaker 1: You know, he knows how to build Gibbs, right. He
Speaker 1: even like they were just saying, Gibbs, give us a winner.
Speaker 1: Rivera even him being cited in the quote from Snyder
Speaker 1: Snyder's basically saying to Rivera, fix our team and fix
Speaker 1: our the culture of our organization, right. I mean they've tried.
Speaker 1: They've tried, you know, guys who are incredible play callers
Speaker 1: with the Shanahan and stuff, and that hasn't worked. And
Speaker 1: I do think, um, you know, it is worth noting
Speaker 1: kind of the just the reaction from this story. Obviously
Speaker 1: it's it's a horrible story. It's an embarrassment, but from
Speaker 1: from some of our colleagues, like like Lindsay Rhodes saying
Speaker 1: and so many women who say that this wasn't news
Speaker 1: to them, and it's not unique just to the Washington
Speaker 1: UH franchise. In Rian Rhan and Walker, who covered the
Speaker 1: team now works for The Athletic wrote a really good
Speaker 1: piece in The Athletic about it and and that it's
Speaker 1: just it's more than just a Washington problem. Um. But
Speaker 1: but also that I think people around the league no
Speaker 1: one was surprised that Washington was the one that that
Speaker 1: in this case, was was called out for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Colleen tweeted about it too last week that the story
Speaker 1: brought back, you know, triggered the worst memories of you know,
Speaker 1: what she's had to deal with in the business. And
Speaker 1: I spoke with her last week about it, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, she said it. She said it not in
Speaker 1: a way that she was it brought back and put
Speaker 1: her in a dark place, but that she was just
Speaker 1: it was kind of a matter of fact thing that
Speaker 1: that's part of the business. And we have been around,
Speaker 1: you know, women that we worked with for years at
Speaker 1: these league events. It is not this is real. I
Speaker 1: mean I've I've seen it at the at the league
Speaker 1: events and the way uh you know, when people have
Speaker 1: some drinks in them, uh the league. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I want to say who got involved with what,
Speaker 1: but we've all seen it. We've seen ugly behavior, and
Speaker 1: you would you would hope one thing that comes good
Speaker 1: comes out of something negative, just like what happened with
Speaker 1: George Floyd and the protests that happened. That people see
Speaker 1: what's happening to Washington, and they caused them to reflect
Speaker 1: on how they should behave around women and and people
Speaker 1: should be treated as equals and not as an object
Speaker 1: to be lusted for. It's it's it's real deal stuff,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that the light is being shined on it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Key thing was, it's every team, It's not just one.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, if you want to investigate deeper
Speaker 1: into each organization, you're gonna find similar stories. All right,
Speaker 1: moving on, We'll hit a couple of quick nuggets here
Speaker 1: before we uh continue on the show. Two Patriots nugs
Speaker 1: Greg number one. ESPN Boston's Mike Reese reports that Mosta
Speaker 1: New has hired a full time coach to live with
Speaker 1: him this offseason. According to Rice, some New hopes that
Speaker 1: this set up quote creates a situation where his relentless
Speaker 1: offseason work produces tangible on field results. In what the
Speaker 1: hell is going on here? I love it? I love it.
Speaker 1: This is a man that once he said the slander
Speaker 1: he played, he had a high angle spring this second.
Speaker 1: He showed up to New England and did not and played,
Speaker 1: you know, very poorly. After that, that trade by Bill
Speaker 1: come On probably was but I think at least it
Speaker 1: was a bad trade. But there's a chance, at least
Speaker 1: I think he's out there trading with Cam Newton, which
Speaker 1: is fun to say. There's a chance at least that
Speaker 1: he can salvage it as a useful part of their team,
Speaker 1: which he was absolutely not last year. He hurt them
Speaker 1: by playing injury. He should have just gone on I
Speaker 1: R or whatever he needed to do. I would do
Speaker 1: this with every rookie quarterback who's expected to see the field. Um,
Speaker 1: any sort of key central star player. You have a
Speaker 1: coach with seven younger guys. I mean I I kind
Speaker 1: of like the idea. That sounds like a CBSL access
Speaker 1: show or something. I don't know what. It doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like major. I'm not sure I would watch it, but
Speaker 1: there's a lot of digital streaming places that that that
Speaker 1: feels like a show. The coach comes. I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: you're like, you're living with a coach right now, so
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what your counterpoint would be keeping keep
Speaker 1: your voice down. He could he could come up at
Speaker 1: any moment. Well, it does. It makes me think about listen,
Speaker 1: snow is priv ledged financially, um, and he has options
Speaker 1: to do these sort of things. And I think about
Speaker 1: myself and I think everyone is the same way. You
Speaker 1: think of ways that you could make yourself into a
Speaker 1: better version of you. But then again, it's like, Mark,
Speaker 1: do you want someone living in your house telling you
Speaker 1: to be better? That feels like it would be terrible. Um,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind like a plugged in life coach kind
Speaker 1: of just a moment saying like, you know, let's let's
Speaker 1: think about that. Let's make a better decision here. You know,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the worst worst. Who is that? Who
Speaker 1: is the the female nutrition nutritionist exercise lady that you
Speaker 1: were way into for a while, way into in the
Speaker 1: class of Autumn from Beach Body, and she she help
Speaker 1: me help me lose like eighteen pounds and twenty days.
Speaker 1: Just did a boxing class this morning, So Autumn CALABRESI
Speaker 1: would you be okay if she was living with you
Speaker 1: in the house and just tracking you at all times
Speaker 1: to make sure you're being the best version of yourself.
Speaker 1: I think it would. I think it would be helpful
Speaker 1: toward my fitness. I don't think that she would sign
Speaker 1: up for that on any level. I think it's a
Speaker 1: bit of a different relationship between most a new in
Speaker 1: his position coach than um, you know, grabbing a beach
Speaker 1: body trainers site unseen and forced forcing them to live
Speaker 1: in this household. Please, I'll always remember I texted you know,
Speaker 1: Mark a picture that autumn CALABRISI was speaking at one
Speaker 1: of the Santa Monica public libraries that I was that
Speaker 1: I was at with my children, and that was like
Speaker 1: Mark's chance to really rob albas and meet meet his hero.
Speaker 1: Not everyone gets to meet their hero. Well, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't do much with that advice I apologist Greg
Speaker 1: And you say, why would she want to do it? Well,
Speaker 1: money talks, right, I don't have the money that would
Speaker 1: make that would be speaking. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: It's the that's the other big problem here. Your money
Speaker 1: would be mumbling, yeah, it would be the best, you know,
Speaker 1: tired roar, Wait, you want to give me thirty seven
Speaker 1: dollars to live with you for six months? Right? What
Speaker 1: is the upside? Um? Good news Mark and other Patriot
Speaker 1: news Cam Newton is the latest pro athlete to get up.
Speaker 1: I won't even say get up on his high horse,
Speaker 1: because it's it's not right to get up on a
Speaker 1: horse like that, to say, the vegan lifestyle is the
Speaker 1: way to go, and a plant based diet has changed
Speaker 1: my life and it's made my body responding ways that
Speaker 1: I never thought it could. And uh, I'm gonna do Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a campaign with Peter cam Newton says,
Speaker 1: wearing a Vegan strong shirt. So congratulations, Mark, you have
Speaker 1: another big time name in your corner in cam Newton. Well,
Speaker 1: I think when cam Newton's signed with the Patriots, I
Speaker 1: decided either I'm gonna be um, you know, real antagonistic
Speaker 1: about this because I just don't like it, or I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get all on board. And that was before I
Speaker 1: heard this. I decided to get all on board. I
Speaker 1: love I love the whole idea of it. It's make
Speaker 1: it makes whatever part of a season we get that
Speaker 1: must Matt much more interesting. And there are it is
Speaker 1: not um unusual at this point, especially for players rehabbing
Speaker 1: and coming off certain types of injuries, to look harder
Speaker 1: a diet. And um, I just would say this because
Speaker 1: I always get pegged as being this person with this
Speaker 1: diet thing. Like, I just think there's huge chunks of
Speaker 1: people out there that shouldn't eat that way. Some should,
Speaker 1: some shouldn't. Like I just think if it fits for you,
Speaker 1: it does, and there's certain athletes and certain types of
Speaker 1: bodies that they respond to it. He's in according to
Speaker 1: all those instant Instagram videos there Dan, he looks. He
Speaker 1: definitely looks like you're not loving this. That looks They're
Speaker 1: back in the center. They're back in the center of
Speaker 1: the first of all, this is being added to the
Speaker 1: trope list, the vegan diet thing. Why it is hardly
Speaker 1: happening a long enough or distance. We don't need to
Speaker 1: hear the stories about it all the time. You're right,
Speaker 1: it's actually common enough. I don't think that, like it's
Speaker 1: is it that interesting as a story? That's fine, But
Speaker 1: I mean there lying every other like tweet I see
Speaker 1: right now is people like I just cooked a steak
Speaker 1: for forty eight hours in my oven. It's like, so
Speaker 1: that you want that, you don't want you want that information,
Speaker 1: but you don't want anything counter to that. I hear you.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the people that cook the steak, they're
Speaker 1: just saying I'm looking forward to eating this delicious piece
Speaker 1: of meat. The vegan guy like a Cam Newton's like, oh,
Speaker 1: my body's never gonna be better. You know, this is
Speaker 1: the way. It is a little preachy. I feel sometimes, well,
Speaker 1: I'm think I just want to eat the steak. I'm
Speaker 1: mostly vegan, and my body has never looked worse. So
Speaker 1: I I Am going to keep it real with you,
Speaker 1: and I'm meat eater and my body's never look Maybe
Speaker 1: it's just for getting old. Cam Newton, by the way,
Speaker 1: was a meat eater in two thousand fifteen, all those
Speaker 1: years ago when he was the m v P. And
Speaker 1: answer your question, well, jump on the football. If you
Speaker 1: don't like you don't like that, I do to it
Speaker 1: marks defense. I don't like the people who then are like,
Speaker 1: well did you see Arian Foster's numbers after he went
Speaker 1: like that's annoying to the people claiming that vegan makes
Speaker 1: them better players are just as annoying as the vegan
Speaker 1: like not eating meat makes them worse players. It's just
Speaker 1: like he's figure out their own diet. Here's bee, here's
Speaker 1: the nuance to the trope. And maybe Brady in so
Speaker 1: many ways as an outlier the guy that you usually
Speaker 1: read about saying I'm now a vegan and my body
Speaker 1: has never been better. It's usually uh NFL star on
Speaker 1: the other side of the hill that is trying to
Speaker 1: recapture past glories and is looking to change up his
Speaker 1: diet as part of that quest. Uh And more often
Speaker 1: than that, I would imagine Arian Foster is the example.
Speaker 1: Then a guy changes up the diet and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden is as good as he was five years earlier. Well,
Speaker 1: it's also it's it's not I don't think they're coming
Speaker 1: up with it on the fly and a vacuum. It's trainers.
Speaker 1: It's nutritionists with more information than they had in UM
Speaker 1: But you're right, it's it's people open to new solutions
Speaker 1: and so they are UM trying to save and lengthen
Speaker 1: their career. It's not the twenty two year all necessarily,
Speaker 1: who is probably also outtill three in the morning if
Speaker 1: he wants to be. And before you get on me
Speaker 1: on Twitter or the subreddit or whatever, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with people v vegan. I'm just having fun.
Speaker 1: Everybody just relax and Greg, I have no problem with
Speaker 1: um Cam Newton beyond the Patriots. I know you want
Speaker 1: me to be really upset about it, but really not.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's kind of fun. The Patriots being super boring.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a great hook as a guy that covers
Speaker 1: football and likes to dislike the Patriots camp being in
Speaker 1: a picture makes them so much more interesting. And as
Speaker 1: I said on this show and on the Network show
Speaker 1: before he signed, I was I was rooting for the guy.
Speaker 1: I hope he does well. I don't hope the Patriots
Speaker 1: do well. I hope he's basically a lesser version of
Speaker 1: what he once was. But I don't want him to
Speaker 1: fall on his face out right. It's a bit of
Speaker 1: a tricky uh lined wired across as a guy rooting
Speaker 1: for Cam. But I will say this, Greg, you got
Speaker 1: Cam Newton there, Okay, you got Yard said I'm still
Speaker 1: waiting in the wings, Bill still in the building. You
Speaker 1: got some new with the life coach living with him.
Speaker 1: All that's great. But I'll tell you something, despite all that,
Speaker 1: the Patriots aren't special anymore. M Well, that was That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. As you were saying you were, your
Speaker 1: narrative was they were a relevant team. That was yours.
Speaker 1: You did you did not say irrelevant real anymore. Maybe
Speaker 1: I said relevant once or twice. All right, good talk. Oh,
Speaker 1: I have an update. I'm long overdue on an update.
Speaker 1: Developing news here. Yeah, we didn't want to press, but
Speaker 1: we've been waiting. Yeah, it's time for the update. What's
Speaker 1: going on with the Gatesville Messenger. People think that I'm
Speaker 1: ducking the story, and it's just it was a matter
Speaker 1: of timing and circumstance here in the middle of the summer,
Speaker 1: the gates a Messenger for people that aren't aware of it.
Speaker 1: Since I got to Texas earlier this summer, I thought
Speaker 1: it would be um fun and good for both sides.
Speaker 1: The newspaper, the local paper of record in Gatesville, Texas,
Speaker 1: a small town in central Texas where my wife is from,
Speaker 1: to maybe do a feature piece on the old zeuser
Speaker 1: and around the NFL podcast coming to Texas and doing
Speaker 1: remote shows from a local insurance office UH in the
Speaker 1: center of downtown Gatesville and UH. I was approached by
Speaker 1: a reporter for the Katesville Messenger who said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come by the office, I'm gonna interview you, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a photo. And like I said, I was very excited,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be on the front page. And
Speaker 1: I saw that as almost a referendum on where I
Speaker 1: was in my life, whether I get front page status
Speaker 1: or if I'm buried within the messenger. And sure enough,
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, Uh, there is in the
Speaker 1: in the back the pay and the back of the
Speaker 1: paper about eighty words. NFL Network comes to Gatesville, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, this is not good. The guy never
Speaker 1: showed up. You never shoot showed up to the office
Speaker 1: the reporter, and I don't want to get on him
Speaker 1: too hard. But he told me the subject of the interview, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'll be there. I'm gonna take a photo and we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk. He just never shows. And then there's a
Speaker 1: blurb in the paper, well, I come here to eat crow.
Speaker 1: But what today? I get a call from the editor
Speaker 1: in chief. Okay, okay, I get a phone call from
Speaker 1: the editor of the paper. It says, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into the exact specifics of what she said,
Speaker 1: but a long lines of there was a miscommunication within
Speaker 1: our building. We would love to do a full feature story.
Speaker 1: We want a photo. She didn't say front page, but
Speaker 1: I think that's where this could be heading and she's
Speaker 1: assigning her top features story columnist to conduct a phone
Speaker 1: interview with me this week. And things are looking up
Speaker 1: for the old Zuser and the Gatesville Messenger. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. It was looking very bad. Now it's
Speaker 1: looking very good. The saga continues, Well, I mean, if anything,
Speaker 1: you're I could hear the disappointment, not at all. If anything,
Speaker 1: it sounds like if there are signing, you know, the
Speaker 1: Gatesville Messengers top features reported to this, it sounds like
Speaker 1: um front page material. And you know, it's just nice
Speaker 1: to see your star rise in conjunction with the power
Speaker 1: and the readership of newspapers, which has never been um,
Speaker 1: you know, more glowing than it is today. If you
Speaker 1: if you're doing anything, you're read in the newspaper right now.
Speaker 1: I did wonder what was the glow, the glow around
Speaker 1: Hansas today. I thought it was probably just a week off,
Speaker 1: a lot of great family time. He's back in Texas.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that glow would be quite
Speaker 1: as bright if it wasn't for this call, but from
Speaker 1: the editor in chief, I don't think it would. UM.
Speaker 1: We will continue to keep you up to date with
Speaker 1: all the latest developments. One thing, are you gonna have
Speaker 1: the the the reporter that basically you know, we all
Speaker 1: heard that call. He was gonna come down to the
Speaker 1: insurance office where you were doing the show and um,
Speaker 1: you know be there to listen to and are you
Speaker 1: has will he be fired? What is the repercussions for
Speaker 1: someone not cover? Wonder if they've heard they might have
Speaker 1: they might have heard the show too and realized they
Speaker 1: were getting some bad press here, she said. The woman
Speaker 1: said she was thankful that we've been talking about the
Speaker 1: paper and and I don't want to say what's going
Speaker 1: to happen to that sports editor because I certainly didn't
Speaker 1: put in any phone calls, But it didn't sound like
Speaker 1: his boss is very happy. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: But that's not my is not my department. I'm just
Speaker 1: happy to be in contact with the top of the
Speaker 1: food chain and things are going very well. And we
Speaker 1: will keep you updated on everything surrounding the Gates, little
Speaker 1: messenger and the old Zeuser potential front page headline. You know,
Speaker 1: you guys think this is just like some biller content
Speaker 1: to get us through the summer. This is probably gonna
Speaker 1: be the biggest story in September too on the Who's
Speaker 1: you guys like we just got it to dance subconscious
Speaker 1: there's no it might be the only thing we have
Speaker 1: to talk about, the quiet part out loud. No, it
Speaker 1: might be the only thing we have to talk about.
Speaker 1: Is all right, that's what's happening in the news. All right.
Speaker 1: So we're fully aware if you've listened to what's happened
Speaker 1: in the show so far today, of the hurdles that
Speaker 1: exist UM to get players on the field, and even
Speaker 1: if and when that happens, is this gonna work? I
Speaker 1: was extremely um lifted up. You want to talk about
Speaker 1: a glow Greg watching the Yankees and Mets into UM
Speaker 1: exhibition games in the city, uh over the weekend, where
Speaker 1: it just felt like it was working. It felt like
Speaker 1: real baseball, uh, with the option of the crowd noise,
Speaker 1: which I really think the NFL needs to uh steer
Speaker 1: clear of the the fake crowd noise. I don't know
Speaker 1: why we feel like we should be doing this. And
Speaker 1: I know it's not just happening. Baseball's happening at soccer
Speaker 1: and it's happening good in the world. I think it's funny.
Speaker 1: I sort of it isn't a round of silly it is,
Speaker 1: but at least with I think I think baseball is
Speaker 1: a little different, but soccer it's such a part of
Speaker 1: like the low hum in the in the like it
Speaker 1: like sort of lets you know because if you're not
Speaker 1: like watching every second. I think it makes more sense
Speaker 1: in soccer though than baseball. And it's tricky you gotta
Speaker 1: get it right. I think they've gotten it right. Like
Speaker 1: on the NBC broadcast. Soccer is a hypnotic, like soccer
Speaker 1: the rise, but you know, to like look up, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like stuff like that. Football has that too. But
Speaker 1: I think that aren't we just like a little too
Speaker 1: savvy to not be right? I'm with you, I don't
Speaker 1: need to think. It made me think of someone of
Speaker 1: a certain age when you think about one of the
Speaker 1: major things that have happened in our lifetimes. The two
Speaker 1: biggest things to me nine eleven and now the coronavirus.
Speaker 1: And I remember when nine eleven happened. There were some
Speaker 1: things now when you look back or a little cringe
Speaker 1: e because everyone was just trying to like get through
Speaker 1: it and trying to think of ways to make life
Speaker 1: a little bit better. It's like when Fred Durst was
Speaker 1: doing charity songs, uh and rapping about nine eleven and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it was for charity, and the moment
Speaker 1: it was like, all right, that's fine, and now you
Speaker 1: look back at it and things like that just seemed
Speaker 1: cringe e for the time that it took place in
Speaker 1: That's how I feel like. We're gonna look back at
Speaker 1: the sports with the canned crowds like everybody was doing
Speaker 1: it because we just want to feel like life is
Speaker 1: a little bit normal. But then down the line maybe
Speaker 1: it will be a little cringe e. That's all I know.
Speaker 1: But it was good to watch sports this weekend. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. That was nice. But anyway, this segment
Speaker 1: is ignoring all this negative noise all around us for
Speaker 1: just a moment. We're not we're not um being soldiers
Speaker 1: of the league here and being like everything's fine, keep
Speaker 1: keep walking along and the football's coming. July twenty eight.
Speaker 1: If everything is good, please pay me. That's not what
Speaker 1: this is about. We are fully aware of what's going on,
Speaker 1: so they know, they know if they've made it this far. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: today's segment is everything is fine, Everything's fine, let's talk
Speaker 1: about football. That's it. That's it. We're talking about things
Speaker 1: that we under normal circumstances, right, Greg would just be
Speaker 1: excited to talk about with a season coming up, right
Speaker 1: in some show. You know, maybe we've leaned into it
Speaker 1: too far the other way because we're a news show.
Speaker 1: That's sort of how we started, and so that the
Speaker 1: news is dark right now. But it's crazy because I
Speaker 1: do have to, you know, you have to live with
Speaker 1: the reality that there's there is a chance Week one
Speaker 1: is going to start on time or close to on time,
Speaker 1: and it's like we we do need to be prepared
Speaker 1: for that, and I do feel like it's tricky. Of
Speaker 1: course we're distracted. It's the most distracting thing ever, but
Speaker 1: at some point we sort of we need to be ready.
Speaker 1: We need to preparing our our listeners for this season too.
Speaker 1: If it's gonna happen, we gotta start getting about it.
Speaker 1: It's almost like you feel a little guilty just talking
Speaker 1: about football, and it makes you seem like you're being
Speaker 1: willfully ignorant. Well, if that's what it is, so bad
Speaker 1: talk about something fun, what could come in six to
Speaker 1: eight weeks? You started off mark, you know for me,
Speaker 1: because I this is like, what what will get me excited?
Speaker 1: And what, um, what's ahead that I'm genuinely intrigued by,
Speaker 1: And so I'm not I think you know me well enough.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fake and just say this thing gets
Speaker 1: me going. It's there are There is something that happens
Speaker 1: every year, though, and it's the fact that we're sitting
Speaker 1: here in July and we have no idea, um me
Speaker 1: personally what happens to me because my team is always
Speaker 1: like a flaming train wreck that crashes into a mountain
Speaker 1: by week four. So I don't when things are going
Speaker 1: great for your team. It's great to be charitable and
Speaker 1: love all these other teams and have this great time
Speaker 1: when you're personally on fire. I'm looking for like things
Speaker 1: different than just like major teams, and so what I
Speaker 1: owe us have every year or like kind of new
Speaker 1: heroes and guys that come out of the woodwork that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know, Like last year at this time,
Speaker 1: no idea who Gardner min she was, didn't care, No
Speaker 1: idea that David Blow would become a central part of
Speaker 1: my adulthood, No idea that both Scarborough these guys started
Speaker 1: um beloved fan clubs the Scarborough Heads, the blowhards them
Speaker 1: and shootings, and so I'm wondering, like three months from now,
Speaker 1: let's just say everything starts on time. Who is captured
Speaker 1: in my heart? Someone what it is it is? And
Speaker 1: this exercise it is everything, It's great everything, And there's
Speaker 1: gonna be seven or eight you know, new people that
Speaker 1: I absolutely enamored with who tell the story to the
Speaker 1: season the way that I like. I can think someone
Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts maybe comes in and does a lot
Speaker 1: of special stuff and then something you've got a Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts so good fan club that could be fun like there,
Speaker 1: who knows there's so much possibilities out there and more
Speaker 1: pretend names. No, because I'm not you know what I
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I just let come to
Speaker 1: me organically, and I'm going to let right right guys
Speaker 1: that you wanted to even think of to be able
Speaker 1: to think clubs about. So we need it. We need
Speaker 1: the season to start on time because I need these
Speaker 1: people in my life. You've always been a fan of
Speaker 1: the underdog in football, Mark, you do latch on to
Speaker 1: those people. Maybe it goes all the way back to
Speaker 1: your love of Bernie Kosar a man on the surface
Speaker 1: had no business being a star NFL quarterback and then
Speaker 1: turned into one of the great gun slingers of the
Speaker 1: of your formative years. Well, that's one way to put
Speaker 1: his career. I could spend it very differently than that.
Speaker 1: I think he was a a national title winning college star.
Speaker 1: Who you know That's that's a way better set up
Speaker 1: for Bernie. Okay, I guess I just the eighties, the
Speaker 1: eighties perm that certain guys had. I always struggled to
Speaker 1: take them seriously. Well, you know who else had that perm?
Speaker 1: Dan Marino and I it was it was hard to
Speaker 1: think that bad is bad. I mark marks into uh
Speaker 1: into underdogs. I I am realizing as you say that,
Speaker 1: I'm sort of into divisions like I I like love
Speaker 1: the I love the rivalries. I sometimes picked divisions. I've
Speaker 1: always been into the NFC South, but I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about the a f C West this year. There's thinking
Speaker 1: about like the matchups in that division. The Chiefs to
Speaker 1: me are like the most exciting defending champion like in
Speaker 1: terms of just like I'm still at that point and
Speaker 1: maybe I'll always be at that point. With Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: I am looking forward to watching them play every week.
Speaker 1: I don't care if they're too good, Like I don't
Speaker 1: care if they crush everyone too. It's like the most
Speaker 1: to me, he's the most exciting player just about that
Speaker 1: we've ever covered. But then those rivalries in that division
Speaker 1: are sneaky fun, and I think that that division is
Speaker 1: sneaky fun, that every matchup that you can kind of
Speaker 1: put out there is kind of fun. This year, the
Speaker 1: Raiders rolling out like this nineteen eighties offense. Nate Nate
Speaker 1: Tye called it that on on the Mina Times Show
Speaker 1: last week, and it's true like that, it's three tight ends,
Speaker 1: it's running, it's basically doing what Bill Walsh would do
Speaker 1: if you was still life. Is all these complete since
Speaker 1: it's like it's that style versus the Chargers with with Tyrod,
Speaker 1: which I just think it's gonna be a little more
Speaker 1: fun and a little more interesting than people thinking a
Speaker 1: ton of like defensive stars. And then it's the Broncos,
Speaker 1: who I am liking that I went back and watched
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and Drew Lock I am more excited about
Speaker 1: than I was. He's got big time players around him
Speaker 1: in terms of Sutton and Judy and the two running backs,
Speaker 1: and there the fans of these fans, these teams are
Speaker 1: great like Chargers, Broncos, Raiders, Chiefs fans, they get after
Speaker 1: each other. It's because they've had these rivalries for the
Speaker 1: most part for so long and there hasn't been a
Speaker 1: lot of change. And to me, like this is a
Speaker 1: fascinating division where anything can happen, and they have the
Speaker 1: most fun team in the Chiefs. I'm with you, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be very competitive and uh, maybe the Chiefs are
Speaker 1: the heavy favorite and they are, but right and they're fun.
Speaker 1: Do you think about in the Chiefs struggled last year?
Speaker 1: It was some of those um some of the divi
Speaker 1: as in games, you know, not not against the Raiders,
Speaker 1: but again certainly against the Chargers, and I think the
Speaker 1: Broncos are going to be really frisk. Well, it's also
Speaker 1: what could go wrong factor with Kansas City because it's
Speaker 1: easy and you know nothing is happening right now to
Speaker 1: ticket them, ticket them for four or five more Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: But we talked about this on our network show, like
Speaker 1: that just doesn't happen. These teams have a season where
Speaker 1: you think they're set up to win for the next
Speaker 1: win when multiple titles and then something disastrous occurs. So
Speaker 1: there is the other shoe drops scenario with Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't bring it up in this conversation. But one
Speaker 1: thing we can't will into existence with positivity and looking
Speaker 1: the other way is that there's not gonna be most
Speaker 1: likely anybody watching these games in the crowd. That's that's
Speaker 1: gonna make these a f C West battles different. Part
Speaker 1: of the fun of it is the stadiums going bonkers, uh,
Speaker 1: with you know, passion and electricity. But that is what
Speaker 1: it is. I guess the only one I can't the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I just struggle to get pumped up about because Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor boars me to tears as quarterback. And Herbert's a
Speaker 1: guy that their first pick that you heard some mixed
Speaker 1: things about coming out of college. The offensive line is
Speaker 1: not better, so he might be in a bad situation. Uh.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that maybe it doesn't jump back
Speaker 1: out to make And Mike Williams and Keenan Allen and
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry and and Derwin James and Joey Bosa and
Speaker 1: Desmond it's just like they got a lot of they
Speaker 1: got Chris Harris is there not. It's like They got
Speaker 1: a lot of players that are pretty fun to watch
Speaker 1: on that roster if they can figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: how it all works. Um, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: what's going on in Chicago. I know it's on some
Speaker 1: level um been driven into the ground already, but I
Speaker 1: don't care, because now it's really gonna happen. One of
Speaker 1: the more interesting quarterback competitions that I can remember from
Speaker 1: a summertime perspective between Mitchell Robinsky and Nick Foles, because
Speaker 1: both guys have such great background here and things have
Speaker 1: only ramped up more around Mitch Drabinsky with this Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: he of winning Super Bowl m v P and now
Speaker 1: getting a half a billion dollar contract and all that
Speaker 1: heat around. Trabiscue is drafted ahead of Mahomes and Watson.
Speaker 1: Of course, now he gets his one last chance to
Speaker 1: make things right. And then Nick Foles, who was always
Speaker 1: going to be an intriguing figure in the NFL for
Speaker 1: what happened and in Philadelphia with the two playoff runs,
Speaker 1: especially the first one that led to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: title title and an m v P, and after completely
Speaker 1: lost year in Jacksonville, this is kind of his last chance,
Speaker 1: I think, to put himself on the radar as a
Speaker 1: start of both guys desperately need to get their careers
Speaker 1: back on track, only one guy gets to be the starter. Yes,
Speaker 1: is it's more likely that both guys will end up starting,
Speaker 1: and whoever wins the battle um may end up starting
Speaker 1: only a few games. And Trabinsky feels like the favorite
Speaker 1: at least to come out of camp. But there's also
Speaker 1: other elements of it that are interesting, the fact that
Speaker 1: there might not be a preseason, so the camp is
Speaker 1: going to be complete. The camp competition will be completely
Speaker 1: about what's happening on the practice field, and and had
Speaker 1: his Naggie makes sense of that. I'm just really looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing how that all shakes out, because Rabinsky
Speaker 1: is borderline tragic figure at this point in Bears history,
Speaker 1: where and Folds is just like a really likable guy
Speaker 1: that has had highs that really not many people have
Speaker 1: ever reached in the league. I mean I think that
Speaker 1: they I feel like they've been sheltering Miss Robinsky about
Speaker 1: as much as a you know, top two quarterback pick
Speaker 1: has ever been sheltered. And if anything, you want, if
Speaker 1: you want to flip the script on him, I would
Speaker 1: view Folds as the heavy heavy favorite, especially in a
Speaker 1: preseason list. Uh, you know, offseason where three coaches on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball have worked with Nick
Speaker 1: Foles and all signed off on paying him a lot
Speaker 1: of money. And if anything, if we assume, and I'm
Speaker 1: with you, that Nick Foles will probably play and then
Speaker 1: Sobel Trabinsky, have Rabinsky come in and be the guy that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, get that they're cheering for because Folds potentially
Speaker 1: fails or he succeeds. I would be shocked if Rabinsky
Speaker 1: won that job. I would I would really question what's
Speaker 1: happening there. That's the trajectory. Would also raised a question,
Speaker 1: what is a camp out. I'm gonna be like this year,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know. Uh, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be less reporters there. It's gonna take a little while
Speaker 1: to ramp up. They'll be like a whole new I
Speaker 1: think COVID related series of tropes. So that's exciting. Everything's fine,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's gotta be like COVID
Speaker 1: trope of like how they're surviving this particular weird camp battle.
Speaker 1: And for what it's worth. Back in May, Naggi said
Speaker 1: that both Fulls and Robiski will play with the starters
Speaker 1: during the preseason, while it's probably not gonna be a
Speaker 1: preseason or anything close to what was imagined back in
Speaker 1: the spring. So yeah, it's going to be a challenge
Speaker 1: for the coaching staff to discern who is the guy
Speaker 1: who should be starting with team. We'll see where that goes.
Speaker 1: Anybody else have another one? I have one quick one
Speaker 1: because the other thing I get into a certain seasons.
Speaker 1: I can think of like the two thousand and twelve
Speaker 1: campaign when the read option in college stuff hit the
Speaker 1: the NFL play callers and it just was this, you
Speaker 1: know revolution. I think most college fans were like, we've
Speaker 1: been watching this for a decade, but suddenly it's new
Speaker 1: to you. But it was a fascinating season because of
Speaker 1: r G three and you had, you know, the rise
Speaker 1: of Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson and others that I
Speaker 1: want to see coming out of this really really weird preseason.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go into Week one. Everything is gonna be great,
Speaker 1: but what does it mean strategy wise? I'm with you,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great, but I I wonder if there
Speaker 1: is a huge advantage for a team like the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: Who are you know, it's gonna take probably a month
Speaker 1: plus for these passing attacks to get in sync. You're
Speaker 1: a run heavy offense. You ran the ball nine more
Speaker 1: times than the second most run heavy team in the
Speaker 1: league last year. You can stick to that versus having
Speaker 1: to change it. Um it fits your scheme so well.
Speaker 1: They have like five running backs that could start all
Speaker 1: over the place. And maybe it's a team like the
Speaker 1: Niners that you know that we hear that Raheem Mustard
Speaker 1: is talking with the team again that trade is not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Please that these two, the two most run
Speaker 1: heavy teams in the league could get off the fast
Speaker 1: starts based on the fact that, you know, life and
Speaker 1: football take time to plan, and the planning process just
Speaker 1: won't be there the same way that it's been there
Speaker 1: in the past. Who are the rookies that thrived right
Speaker 1: away running backs? Like It's like, it just seems like
Speaker 1: a good situation for an old school run heavy first
Speaker 1: month of football. I agree, and I also think it's
Speaker 1: it's so much of this season is gonna be I
Speaker 1: know where you know, everything's fine, and it is, but
Speaker 1: if you want to spend it positive in that way.
Speaker 1: It's like this, it being so different is an opportunity
Speaker 1: for a lot of coaches and players, but especially coaches
Speaker 1: to stand out to do things either a little different
Speaker 1: or have their team a little more together than other
Speaker 1: teams like and in theory at the NFL usually doesn't
Speaker 1: work like this, but it's been going that way. Like
Speaker 1: it's an opportunity to be a little more creative and
Speaker 1: a little to think a little different, like Mark Sane,
Speaker 1: like some teams that are zigging like that, and it
Speaker 1: certainly worked last year for the Ravens and Niners might
Speaker 1: might come out like a house on fire if if
Speaker 1: they've got their stuff together. What if you wanted what
Speaker 1: if one team said forget everyone and freak You know what,
Speaker 1: you have nice families, but you're gonna see them in
Speaker 1: six months. We're gonna we're gonna bubble were there. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna let him do that. I'm just saying the
Speaker 1: way you're describing, No, you're describing what it's like to
Speaker 1: be on the New England Patriots. And they're gonna thrive
Speaker 1: in this setting. They come, they're absolutely gonna thrive in
Speaker 1: this scenario. I just I'm a little worried about that
Speaker 1: because I don't think they're a talent rich team anymore
Speaker 1: and they're not special. But if I had to pick
Speaker 1: one team that will handle this better, it would probably
Speaker 1: be the Belichick To remember, like when they got rid
Speaker 1: of it in September, Remember when they find a Dahlias
Speaker 1: Thomas because he couldn't drive through the snowstorm to get
Speaker 1: the practice or whatever it's gonna be. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: like that. I'm gonna throw out a couple of quick
Speaker 1: with since you didn't. How about Odell Beckham? How about
Speaker 1: the blonde Nodell Becka. He's blonde, he's back, he's sick
Speaker 1: of being humble, just like Kim Newton. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw some of those like I wanna. I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to see, oh b j on
Speaker 1: you know, on ten or what if that was? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Some of this stuff is him just
Speaker 1: making up stuff after the fact. How about Odell Belgo
Speaker 1: play a little better? Everything got put on that injury,
Speaker 1: come down with a contested catch. I don't know. He
Speaker 1: was moving pretty well some of that time. So even
Speaker 1: though he was injured, he did not play that well.
Speaker 1: And this is one of the most transformative players that
Speaker 1: Chris Wessling Um like the calm I've he's ever seen
Speaker 1: that I've ever seen. He just didn't have a good season.
Speaker 1: And I think Um, for whatever reason, Baker was part
Speaker 1: of that. There's a lot that was part of it,
Speaker 1: but he didn't play well. Odell Beckham didn't play well.
Speaker 1: I think that got lost like a little bit. There
Speaker 1: were so many balls he did not come down with
Speaker 1: that he could and it wouldn't surprise me. If he
Speaker 1: comes out and you get you get the best Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: I believe that you should. One thought on Beckham, and
Speaker 1: I think this has been glossed over, is that he's
Speaker 1: always been injury prone since he came into the league.
Speaker 1: And the one concerned with him is that, especially as
Speaker 1: he's getting older. And I think he's still only twenty
Speaker 1: eight or something, But is this just a guy that
Speaker 1: his body isn't built to play sixteen games on a
Speaker 1: regular basis. So I think when he's healthy, like right now,
Speaker 1: I believe him when he says I've ever felt better,
Speaker 1: and I'm his explosive ever in my blonde hair, and
Speaker 1: now I feel like I'm myself again. Whatever that means,
Speaker 1: but what happens when the contact starts? Can he stay
Speaker 1: healthy and stay explosive well to he played through it.
Speaker 1: I mean there are other wide receivers that might not
Speaker 1: have They would have used it as a reason and
Speaker 1: as a in a season going south to get out
Speaker 1: of there. I can think of another receiver in the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio that never played a game last year,
Speaker 1: and I think he could have towards the end of
Speaker 1: the year. Oh A J. Green taking fire and second
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown could have played at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: I think they they they advertised that from October on. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what was going on with
Speaker 1: his body, but Odell Beckham play. I'm not getting on
Speaker 1: him for playing through injury, but I also think a
Speaker 1: lot of at some point you have to judge what's
Speaker 1: out on the field. And he also moved really well
Speaker 1: a lot of the time, so that part of it
Speaker 1: was confusing to me that when I was seeing him
Speaker 1: dust people um and and the contestant catch that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just I just I think I'd like to think
Speaker 1: that we have not seeing the best of Oldell Beckham,
Speaker 1: or at least that that will see the best of
Speaker 1: Odo Beckham again and and this is this is the
Speaker 1: prime year to do it. That's all. The reason he's
Speaker 1: not on the Giants anymore is because he drove them
Speaker 1: crazy right right right, which is not done in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: But you need you need to see him crazy in
Speaker 1: terms of you know, whether he can be ever be
Speaker 1: that guy again that he was earlier in his career.
Speaker 1: He's certainly got to get by. I listen, Mark, you
Speaker 1: you always think that I'm coming after the Browns. I
Speaker 1: think he can certainly still be that guy. And if
Speaker 1: Baker can clean things up, they're going to be a
Speaker 1: monster offense potentially. Right There's a lot. I mean, Jervis
Speaker 1: Landry is a really fun player to watch. Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: is a fun player to watch. If you actually got
Speaker 1: Pete Beckham, and then you know you got in Joco
Speaker 1: and Hunter who are are good and fun too. But
Speaker 1: that's like a handful of pretty special and unique players
Speaker 1: on the on the same team. And I know we
Speaker 1: kind of talked about that last year and everything, but
Speaker 1: they're still there, and I think it could be be
Speaker 1: fun my last one really quick. The Bengals could be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch this year. We've been
Speaker 1: hitting on this on the show. But if you're Joe Burrow,
Speaker 1: who seems like Andrew Luck type guy where every five
Speaker 1: or six years someone comes into the league and it
Speaker 1: just feels like it's a slam dunk. Matthew Stafford was
Speaker 1: another one, even though that took a couple of years
Speaker 1: to get role because the injuries. If he hits the
Speaker 1: ground running with that offense, the Bengals could be like
Speaker 1: a playoff team potentially, and that would be I think
Speaker 1: people are gonna be shocked if the Bengals are in
Speaker 1: the mix in December because football will be playing in December,
Speaker 1: because nothing is wrong. I won't be because I think
Speaker 1: if you have everything is about the quarterback. Everybody knows that, Like,
Speaker 1: if you get that guy in place, things could change
Speaker 1: very quickly. And uh, if you're Cincinnati fan, this is
Speaker 1: why West, especially in this time when he's he's down
Speaker 1: on the canvas and he's working to get his way
Speaker 1: back again, I feel like this is when he should
Speaker 1: fall in love with the Bengals again. In fact, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna text him after the show about this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, you got the readied right now? The Bangals.
Speaker 1: This is the time I've been saying that this is
Speaker 1: the time to embrace the Bengals again, and this time
Speaker 1: of take care of you. Yeah. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he'd go full on, but he has kind of admitted,
Speaker 1: I think, on this show and and to us that
Speaker 1: you know this, this is the most excited he's been
Speaker 1: about them in a long time. That said, does West
Speaker 1: strike you as someone when another man comes and says
Speaker 1: you will now be a fan of this team, that
Speaker 1: he's just gonna go do it. I don't. That's not
Speaker 1: the West that I'm familiar with. So no, probably you
Speaker 1: know you're right about that. And you mentioned Antonio Brown.
Speaker 1: Greg he sent a flurry of tweets today. Let me
Speaker 1: just read them. I almost take this at the same
Speaker 1: grand assault and the importance in the news cycles as
Speaker 1: I treat Kanye West talking about Harriet Tubman during campaign
Speaker 1: rallies for president. But here are the tweets. Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: is it time to walk away? I've done everything in
Speaker 1: this game. That was a weird one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's tough one to put together. Next tweet. At this point,
Speaker 1: the risk is greater than the reward. Thank you everyone
Speaker 1: who who's been part of this journey. I sincerely thank
Speaker 1: you for everything. Life goes on four and then another
Speaker 1: one I came. I saw I conquered. Mission complete, Call God,
Speaker 1: Mission complete, Call God. So I guess he Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: retired today. I get someone pointed out, I guess he's
Speaker 1: done this two other times, so that I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that he's in September, right, He's retired a few other times,
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll We'll save the Santney Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame discussion for another day. Can we fire
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown? By the way that people having those you're
Speaker 1: you guys are crazy the best receiver I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I mean that, I think people are getting a little
Speaker 1: too crazy of like Antonio Brown was such a mess
Speaker 1: and how it's ended, that's like, you're crazy. He was
Speaker 1: something better at the same time, Why is that happening
Speaker 1: right now? Wait? Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I feel
Speaker 1: like we should fire the story into the sun until
Speaker 1: I agree. I think you're right. You're right, Ricky fired
Speaker 1: that thing up all right before we go, let's spin
Speaker 1: the wheel teams. Yeah, it's still happening. You thought it
Speaker 1: was over. It ain't spinning the wheel teams wherever it lands.
Speaker 1: That is, the team will do a deep dive on
Speaker 1: for Wednesday's show, Ricky, the wheel has now eliminated what
Speaker 1: six or seven teams? It is time now to spin
Speaker 1: it again. Right here we go Spring, Oh, look at
Speaker 1: that New York just agree your worst nightmare confirmed. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking back to the conversations before the show
Speaker 1: or Dan is you know, pushing the let's let's do
Speaker 1: this one more time? And then I even and see
Speaker 1: as we you know, our listeners can't see it, but
Speaker 1: you can check it out. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: put this on Instagram or not. The wheel suddenly like
Speaker 1: stops and like jerks back a little unnaturally right when
Speaker 1: it gets to the Jets, and it just everything doesn't
Speaker 1: feel totally above board here, that's all. And there were
Speaker 1: there were issues out of the gate when I you know,
Speaker 1: casual character assassination from Greg nothing, No, I think it's
Speaker 1: I think Greg is on point. I mean when we
Speaker 1: when we correctly predicted the team the first time, people
Speaker 1: thought is this fixed? What are these guys up to?
Speaker 1: These clowns? Um those questions went away, and I think
Speaker 1: that they've returned the last one, it's like, Oh, it
Speaker 1: just happens, America. You want to time I've done the
Speaker 1: exact same thing, Dan or any of us had no clue.
Speaker 1: What was okay? Okay? On Wednesday show, we will have
Speaker 1: someone that connected to the Jets beat that. We get
Speaker 1: a lot of good options, So tune in for that.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm excited. Oh Mark, I'm sorry. Listen, I know
Speaker 1: you wanted to be the Browns and thenn't. It went
Speaker 1: the old Zeuss way. What are you gonna do? It
Speaker 1: just sounds like a lot less heavy lifting for the
Speaker 1: rest of us because it's gonna be sort of a
Speaker 1: Dan and whoever he picks to come talk about the Jets,
Speaker 1: you know, one on one festival, so and a treat
Speaker 1: and a treat for the listeners to finally hear about
Speaker 1: this team, right, this scrappy little unmentioned entity. Alright, Uh
Speaker 1: well what was that? Huh? Who are you? Where do
Speaker 1: you come from? Bill? Are you listening to me? What
Speaker 1: do you want to do with your life? Alright? I
Speaker 1: can't do too many more of these shows. I gotta
Speaker 1: get out of here. O'Brien is out of control. That's
Speaker 1: Texans coach in general Mager Bill O'Brien prove that it's
Speaker 1: not all right. Good show, guys, good to be back.
Speaker 1: Put the music, okay does Danny had to signing off
Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm the old boss Rick Hollywood from her apartment,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everything's fine. Was that it took me until
Speaker 1: just as you were wrapping up to realize where that
Speaker 1: guy was from. I couldn't waiting for someone. You couldn't.
Speaker 1: It couldn't. I couldn't place it. And then right at
Speaker 1: the end I did. And then it was too late
Speaker 1: to make a little play on words from the We're
Speaker 1: not Gonna Take It video right twisted sister, I said,
Speaker 1: and know, and we played he played, We're not gonna
Speaker 1: take it at a talent show, once you know, you
Speaker 1: leave all this stuff on the on the floor. I'd
Speaker 1: love to hear that it's all going in good. It
Speaker 1: was great. We it was it were you Snyder, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Me and one other guy saying, well that was different
Speaker 1: than Delaware. I think we call ourselves for that one performance.
Speaker 1: The power to a posse what Greig