WEBVTT - Everything is Fine 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:07.440 Be Around the NFL Podcast is floating on a dark 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:12.639 laid Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.720 My name is Dan Hansas, and I am coming to 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:20.160 you from a country filled with heroes. In Bunker's Mark 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:24.480 Sessler and Greg Rosenthal in Los Angeles, Ricky Hollywood. Also 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:27.960 it appears in Los Angeles. What's up? Boys and girls? 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:37.120 Hey Danna, We're back. Welcome back, welcome back. It's good 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.400 to be back a week away. As you can tell 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.080 from my background here on the video stream, I'm back 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.680 in Texas, got the big shuffle board table behind me, 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.879 and I essentially unplugged. Went off the grid in a 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:56.279 lot of ways last week as we turn our attention 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:03.960 to a completely bizarre UH trainee camp scenario that may 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.440 or may not be happening, and we're gonna get into 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:11.120 all of that on today's show. But yeah, I went 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:15.640 fishing yesterday. That was nice. Made a pizza on the 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.960 grill yesterday. So I know this is not an easy 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.319 time for a lot of people. So I don't want 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.600 to brag too much, but it's you know that, what 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.640 is that saying they say you can go to you 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.920 can all go to hell. I'll go to Texas. Sometimes 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.120 that's what it feels like down here at Lake l 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.360 b J. And I do have a little bit of 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.040 guilt about it, to be honest. How about you, Mark, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.960 what did you do last week? Well? You know, I 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.360 I often UM take issue with you enjoying life more 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.200 than me, but I and this time around, I'm gonna 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.759 I'm gonna say I'm happy for you. No, I mean 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.160 I feel I come off that way, and I'm happy 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.080 for you that you found a good situation for the 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.000 family down there. I saw a picture of Jack who 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.080 was in a hammock, looked very comfortable. I think that 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.880 is Um, You've handled it very well, and I'm happy 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.040 for you. I would say my week was I like you, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.800 I disappeared, UM. I didn't really have a chance to 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.880 put pizzas onto grills and things. But UM, I ate 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.040 some pizza here and there, and I watched a bunch 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.440 of movies. And I'll tell you the other thing I 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.520 did was I held out this little hope that the 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:22.080 weak sojourn away from UM the podcast would somehow remove 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.600 or wipe away or sanitize all the ugliness that we've 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:30.120 dealt with for UM essentially months and it didn't do 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.639 a thing. You come back and and it's it's it's 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.919 all still they're waiting for you. So, um, we've got you. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.160 We're not out of the woods yet. On the offseason front. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:42.600 We're in the middle of the woods. So you look 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.720 in all directions and all you see is woods. Well right, 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.000 it's it's it's a similar wood situation except adding to that. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.000 Adding to that is we're gonna have a lot more 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:55.040 work ultimately. Uh, not that we haven't been working, but 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.680 we're gonna have more uh coming and trying to get 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.639 marked to run away. We already downs right now. We 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.680 can't lose sel No, no, we can't. Um fishing though, 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.040 I was gonna say fishing underrated, but I guess I 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:08.040 guess people are kind of on top of that. Fishing 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.480 is great. But as someone who has not experienced fishing much, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.680 the few times in my life that I want fishing 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.520 um with my wife, I mean it it it it, 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.440 It's underrated. I wish I could do it more. I 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:24.200 kind of think fishing is properly rated. Um I was. 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.600 I was actually doing it legit where you're you got 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.680 the hook and you're putting bait on it, so you 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.080 when you try to put an earthworm, for instance, onto 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.880 a hook and then it shoots poop on your fingernail 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.440 and you're like, what earthworms poop? What's that? It was unnecessary? Um, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.480 it's it's like dirt that they're pooping, and it's just 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.960 like what is their quality of life? And then yesterday 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.560 I'm putting live minnows on the on on on the 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.760 hook and I'm just as I grew up in the suburbs, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.920 but compared to everyone else down here, I'm a city boy. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.720 I'm just thinking about that poor middow. Mark. You know 0:03:56.760 --> 0:04:00.440 you leave that, you leave that vegan lifestyle. When I 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.800 stick a hook through a living minnow to try to 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.280 use it to entice another fish to eat him, what 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.440 are we doing here with the fishing industry? Well, yeah, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.720 it seems a tad unnecessary, But I I this is 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.880 coming from someone that's spent um long Saturday's putting earthworms 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.680 under like sun through a microscope and watch them squirm. 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.400 And I'm not saying recently but as a child, and uh, 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.880 you know, biology comes up to us in many forms. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.200 So Mark was doing last week just like killing earthworks. 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:32.960 Well it was last week. Things to do around here, sir, Um, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:40.120 how are you, Erica? I'm good, good, refresh, I'm not 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.640 like killing. When you hear that little like click sound, 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.800 that's Erica has the mute button on her mic. She's like, 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.160 can I get through this open without having to pay attention? 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.159 And then the clicks like, oh god, scramble time. No, 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.960 there was a dumpster was getting picked up by the 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.040 garbage truck and I was trying to keep the beeping 0:04:57.120 --> 0:05:03.760 off of the show. Um but a producer, Yeah, exactly, No, 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.520 I was good. I went to the beach yesterday. I 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.279 went on like a five mile hike on Saturday. You know, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:16.599 we outdoors. What's going on in California? Aren't they shutting? 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:23.160 That's placed down again? It doesn't matter, pretty shut down, honest. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.239 Outdoors are free, you know the outdoors. It's been beautiful weather. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.720 I mean, yeah, last week I feel like I was 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.840 up and down at least with my kids. But the 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.599 more outdoors we can do on the weekend the better. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.040 At least that that part of it. I feel like, Hey, 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:39.240 I'm glad I'm in California. You know that that's the 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:43.120 part that's okay. And I should be honest because I 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.920 haven't been to this point. Right behind me, you guys 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.799 could see, well, I gotta go this way. I guess. Um. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.200 It says on the wall behind me Bob's and you 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.280 might think that's Bob Bates Dds, my father in law 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.520 on the wall his name, but no, it's actually I'm 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.640 in Bill O'Brien's here in Texas. I've in the summer house, 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.320 and uh, you know, based on what I'm hearing, yes, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.520 what you might expect to be true, he's a little 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:13.680 bit tense, a little bit yeah. Well one media supporter 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.360 out there. Dad, I want to, uh, you know, embrace 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.160 you and give you this free lodging for this summer. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:24.360 You've always stood by me. Dan. It's not the attic 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.840 recreational area I would have imagined for Billy. What do 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:33.040 you think? What's that doing? You call this a room? 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.880 This is a big style. I want you to straighten 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:43.120 up this area. Now you are a disgusting slop. Bill, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.040 Come on give me I'm doing a podcast here already 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.440 in conflict. Well, he doesn't like power. He he doesn't 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.680 lose power struggle, So I don't like this your chance 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.719 to do. He thinks he could just storm up upstairs 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:55.960 in his own home and be raped me during a 0:06:56.000 --> 0:07:00.360 popular NFL podcast. Well he's got another thing coming all right. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.200 Coming up on today's show, we'll get you caught up 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.120 to date with all COVID related matter matters in the 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:13.280 NFL and training camp which actually technically opens today for 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.480 the Texans and Chiefs who rookies report today, and we'll 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.120 get into what that means, what is that actually it's 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.320 not your traditional type of reporting, uh, And whether or 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.880 not the rest of the teams are gonna follow because 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:31.360 things are getting more and more complicated by the day, 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.560 by the hour. We're also going to spend the win 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.400 wheel of teams get you some other updates since Mark 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.800 and I have been gone, Let's hit the news. Ricky, 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.760 You're in our thoughts and you have our full support 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:44.880 for the fight that you're about to go through. You know, 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.600 fingers cross female good luck can never sing Stacy stupile, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.040 and you know we'll see on this other side. And 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.480 I hope to hear your voice in the podcast again soon. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:03.040 Life is the pharamon. I'll say this, We're we're all 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:04.800 written for you, where every one of us of his 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:08.640 money supports what your back ground is. We all want 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:18.520 you to this awesome video put together by at NFL 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:22.360 with NIA showed up this weekend and a bunch of 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:26.640 overseas listeners UM giving their best wishes to our friend 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.400 Chris Wesling, who of course is fighting the Big Sea 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.320 once again and he's in the middle of treatment right 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.680 now and he's hoping to get back on the show 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.040 soon but it's just a matter of making it work 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.120 and his body cooperating with him. So but thank you 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.960 to NIA and everyone that UM recorded messages for West 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.079 because it definitely makes a difference, and I know West 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:50.280 was touched by it. Yeah, it's amazing. He even made 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:54.680 a joke responding on Twitter. You know, let's keep it 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.000 a secret. I guess I'm blowing the secret. But you 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.040 know he's got a special place in his heart for 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.080 the for the UK, in the overseas listeners, maybe maybe 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.360 even his favorites, and uh, I don't know, I know, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.679 I know it was not an easy week in West 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.120 has has sent out some messages about that and not 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.600 speaking for him on his Instagram, So stuff like this 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.319 really does UM touch him. It's awesome. Yeah, I think 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.280 that like the toughest thing is to be going through 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.000 it a second time because for a lot of people, 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.040 you think, oh, he's into the journey, and he completed 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.679 it and it was this huge moment of victory. But um, 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:31.200 it's very good to see how many people are rallying 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:36.480 around Chris with twice the strength. Um this time, all right, 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.080 let us get into it. And yes, uh West, I 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.120 know you're listening. Well, maybe he's listening. I don't think so. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.920 I mean that could be wrong, but I don't know. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.199 I feel like he's he's got a lot on his plate. 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.000 I mean, does this show he is he's the burden? 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.120 I don't know, I'm not. It's just like there's not 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.120 you know, it's also not there's not a lot of 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.880 football news going on right now. Right, I'm gonna be wrong. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.560 I have no idea. You can tell me if I'm wrong. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:04.960 When during my week's stay in l A before I 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.720 got the hell back to Texas, did get a chance 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.800 to see West Erica. You were there as well, uh 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.040 Link in Lakisha, and that was awesome and they were 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.920 all in very positive spirits. So I don't know if 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:17.719 the baby was in positive spirits, but he seemed to 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.120 be happy. He can't really talk or anything. But Western Latika, 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:25.040 as you would imagine, UM in a very good emotional 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.439 place in terms of their strength, as you'd imagine. So 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.280 best wishes to them and we're gonna be along with 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.320 on the ride with them. All right, let's get into 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.040 the news in the NFL. Let's start with something that 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:39.080 happened over the weekend. On Sunday, NFL players jumped on 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:45.120 Twitter in mass in a coordinated effort, UH two kind 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.240 of got the NFL to play ball with them and 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.800 uh and comply with some guidelines that experts have thrown 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.280 out there on safely opening training camps amid the Corona 0:10:55.720 --> 0:11:00.320 coronavirus pandemic. Many of the players used the hashtag we 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:03.720 want to play with their tweets, which to me brought 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:08.199 back memories of baseball's infernal labor struggle that happened a 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.760 couple of months back. Uh, but I believe it was 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.920 similar sentiment, we want to play and it's it's a 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.720 situation where the players and this is a group of 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.280 star players that all sent out tweets Sunday, Drew Brees, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.559 Todd Gurley, Miles Garrett, uh, you name it. Big stars 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.600 from across the spectrum of the league, Michael Thomas UH saying, 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.120 if you guys can't get on board with um A 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.280 a plan that is focused and is out in front 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.679 of us ahead of reporting for training camp, well we 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.240 don't know how we can play football. And now it's 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:44.040 basically firing greg an Arrow at the NFL. Uh, let's talk. 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.000 Let's figure this out, because I feel like maybe we've 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.840 wasted some time here this summer. Yeah, I think the 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.199 NFL and this country is in a place they didn't 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.960 expect two months ago. You know, whether you want to 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.640 criticize whether they should have expected it better or not, 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.000 I'm that interested in it. I just think the players 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.920 all talking as one voice, UH is fascinating because I 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:12.079 think they learned how powerful social media can be in 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:18.360 that way, you know, this summer after after George Floyd's killing, 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.440 and and I think it's a totally different matter, but 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.319 I think it is different than let's say another time 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.040 when the players in in the NFL, we're going back 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.040 and forth, Let's say, like during the lockout, you know, 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.080 ten years ago, and they're using this voice to get there, 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.480 UM say out there. I also think, though, as someone 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.839 like us watching from afar, I'm just gonna kind of 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.720 I'm gonna watch and see because everyone is in a 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.600 crazy hurry, how do you know? But what is to me, 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.280 what is the huge hurry? Like okay, that the players 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.800 are are showing up today apparently in Kansas City and 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:56.240 Houston just to get tested, and the NFL and the 0:12:56.360 --> 0:13:00.000 union are talking today and they've basically been talking every day. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.560 And if things don't get settled, we'll see if the 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.080 veterans are actually showing up and we'll see how this 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.120 on ramping is um. But I'm not like panicked about 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.280 it because I'm not that like fascinated by this play 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.440 by play of what's going to happen, Like, let's see 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.760 where we are in a really a week from now. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.880 A lot of the issues are getting worked out. It 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.640 is incredibly complex, and I guess that's part of the 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.320 thing where I'm not freaking out, Like it is an 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.959 incredibly complex problem that the testing has to be figured out, 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.280 the money has to be figured out most more than anything, 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.920 the safety has to be figured out, and the testing 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:41.280 especially is something that to me is like there is 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.520 no good solution there. There literally is no good solution 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.320 to the testing, and so I'm curious how they're gonna 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.559 pull it off. But but like anyone saying that it's 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.560 just like easy and that they should have it figured out, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.480 I think are are unrealistic. Yeah, you know, Demorris Smith 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:02.000 wrote um the MQB this week. He's the NFLPA executive director, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:06.480 and he used the term perfect problems with imperfect solutions, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.240 And I mean, if you want to spend positively, you 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.120 could look at what the NHL just released that out 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.560 of eight hundred players that they tested, that two were positive. 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.760 That there is a chance that football can happen. That's 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.720 in the players. You know. The whole point was we 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.400 want to play, but we want to mow down UM 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.800 these topics that were in a union battle over And 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.760 I think that things like the opt out language for 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.280 certain players with pre existing conditions or family members with such, 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:38.360 they want that clearly UM put in writing before the 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.680 season begins or training camp begins. That the frequency of 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.320 testing has to do with if it's a twenty four 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.200 hour test, that's the quickest you can get a response. Well, 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:49.520 you don't want to find out that you had a 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.920 false negative or a false positive and you've been in 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.760 contact with thirty five people, and that's been a major 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.160 sticking point for them. I mean, to me, you gotta 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:59.120 get you gotta get the tests. That's part of it. 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.520 I think people are on understanding that these are happening 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.440 in thirty two different places, and I don't have the 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.120 details of how the NFL is setting settling all this, 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.640 but you know where you are, Dan, where we are Florida. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.080 Like they're in a different, very different place in terms 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.400 of testing. There's an ethical question I think to it too, 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.480 that ultimately only essential workers who are symptomatic are getting 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.200 test back that quickly, So you're basically saying we're more 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.840 important than people that are sick in your state. That 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.880 it's a totally separate question. But the like logistics of 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.640 how that's all going to be set up, whether it's 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.000 daily or every other day, is like hugely complex, And 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.280 unlike the NHL and the NBA, they're not going to 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.240 be in a bubble. They're just they're just out there 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.680 living in these communities. Yeah, Michael Thomas of the Saints 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:45.120 had a tweet, why isn't the NFL doing what the 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.120 NBA is doing listening to their players. Well, we've talked 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.280 about this on the show. It's much different with the 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.920 NBA is trying to pull off with this bubble in 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.960 Orlando for the end of their season in this playoff 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.520 they're doing, and what the NFL's task with doing, which is, 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.480 you know, thousands of people in terms of personnel, players, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.920 coaches and make it all work. And I've seen it. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.760 I saw it a number of websites on social media 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.720 of course, kind of fire and brimstone attacking the NFL, 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.280 like why are we only now here? Why is this 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.240 all coming to a head now? Why why hasn't the 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.480 NFL planned for this ahead of time. I can guarantee you, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.800 without being a shill for the league on any level, 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.600 that everyone behind the scenes on Park Avenue has been 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.600 trying to figure this out for months and months and months. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.640 But they're just like the rest of us ultimately, where 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.120 I think it's it's hard to kind of work it 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.960 out and find out what you can and what cannot 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:40.000 cannot do. And what we just saw with baseball when 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:44.200 you look at the relationship between the union and the league, 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.040 and maybe this is the only place where you could 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.840 give it to the NFL a little bit in terms 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.640 of criticism that maybe there should have been more runway 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:54.200 for communication between those two sides, because that's just a 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.200 part of professional sports as a business that there's not 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.600 always going to be seeing eye to eye in that 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.280 real well. And you know, I'm always tough on baseball 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.520 and sometimes Dana gets us into um two issues on 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.360 the on that front. But you know what, it's it's 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:13.240 unfair that, like simply baseball was paying for this because 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.480 the whole country was thinking a little bit differently in 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.679 May into June, when um, we thought things were changing 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.760 and they weren't. And by the way, you can point to, 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.800 you know, the Black plague or the Bubonic plague as 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.480 as learning points for what our society is going through. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.159 But come on, I mean, everyone's going through it for 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.359 the first time. And I don't think there was a 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.359 sixty day period where NFL officials are just like, hey, 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.520 let's go sit by the pool and not focus on this. 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.119 I mean, this situation, to Greg's point, has changed almost 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.719 weekly daily and and at this point they're doing all 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.800 they can. But it's it's not surprising. And Judy Batista 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.280 pointed out that um, she used the word befuddled, that 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:56.280 a number of league sources were like befuddled by the 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.040 players Sunday tweet storm, if that's what you want to 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.000 call it. I think from the union side, it's just 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.800 that there are these unanswerable human questions. Do we want 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.920 everyone to play yes? Is there a chance that that's possible. 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.119 I mean they went into the chief's facility and Andy 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.280 Reid talked about how pristine the setup is, how he 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.440 believes it can work. I just think that even with 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.920 that positive approach, you still have to realize there are 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.600 human issues here and that every player has people at 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.960 home and other things that just create these union sticking points. Well, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.520 in Kansas City, Tom Pellisero reported today was one of 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.200 three teams that have been approved out of the thirty two, 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.920 only thirty two out of the three by an independent UM, 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.240 you know, doctors saying that they're set up is safe 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.639 to start going to work, and they're set up to 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.240 be clear, is they're just testing these rookies for a 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.399 couple of days. Then they're just testing um, you know, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.120 the coaches that they're not really doing anything, and then 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.040 it's gonna be a very slow on ramping process. I 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.560 think people need to understand that too. In the NFL's 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:02.600 best case scenario where this goes is absolutely smoothly. Training 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.199 camp still isn't gonna look anything like training camp, not 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:09.040 for a while. It's gonna be an acclamation period where 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.360 the players are working out in smaller groups. Then it's 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.080 gonna build up to some non contact stuff on the 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.399 field and smaller groups. And in a best case scenario, 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.080 the teams are showing up on the twenty eight. And 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:22.920 that's why the players are pushing back, because the NFL 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:24.960 is saying show up on the twenty eight. The day 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.520 is still uh the same, and they and we're not 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:29.760 really at a place where they can do that. Everything 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:32.360 is not all you know, figured out, but they hope 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.399 to be I guess by the twenty eight. And in 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.480 the best case scenario, like I was saying, in this plan, 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.680 we're three weeks away from what I think people would 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:45.040 really understand as a normal training camp. So so even 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.520 even in a case where things go well, it's not 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.040 gonna be like it was in The NFL is already 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.640 giving up one of those preseason games. So we saw 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.720 today in the NFL's latest proposal that they're down to 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.760 just hoping for one preseason game. So that's why I'm 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.320 not like freaking out about what these proposals are. It 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.879 was it was four games two weeks ago, it was 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.280 two games a week ago, and now it's down to 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.240 one game, and we'll see if we have that game 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.520 or not. I'm not gonna like analyze when we get 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.280 that game or not. You know, it's just like we'll 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.080 find out then. And please, Yeah, if do we do 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.200 end up with one preseason game, which I don't think 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.960 there's even gonna be one, please do not put too 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.760 much into the results of that week. I imagine if 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.600 players are still salty about there even being a preseason game, 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:32.080 and starters don't want to play in that game, the 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.000 coaches don't want to mutiny on their hands. They'll say, 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:35.359 you don't want to play, you don't have to play, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.320 and they'll just play guys at the bottom of the roster, 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.040 and that could become something of a force akin to 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.760 maybe a week four the preseason. That's all stuff to 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.040 be on the radar, And I'll go ahead, Mark No, 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:46.880 I was just say, wouldn't that be the only real 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.760 use of a preseason game? Yeah, the only real copaint. 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:53.680 None of us like preseason games. But you know, coaches 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.800 have to make these tough decisions between your seventh and 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.840 eighth best cornerback, like use the game for that. Maybe 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.520 it would on our It would also be to practice 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:06.399 whatever competition is gonna be like from it from an 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.919 admitt look sort of an organizational and I'm sure the 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.639 NFL is very concerned about that. So it would be 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.560 a little bit of a dry run of like how 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:17.200 can we actually run a game, um before there's twenty 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.200 five million people or whatever it is on Sunday afternoon 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.720 in week one. And like I said earlier, the first 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.359 part of training camp did start today a Chiefs and 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.680 Texans rookies because they're playing the opening Thursday night games, 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:32.840 so they get a little bit more of a run up. 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:36.360 They reported to their facilities. The plan is they will 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:41.520 get tested UH at the facility on Monday and Tuesday, 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.280 then they go UH. Then they will return to their 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:48.520 team headquarters for a physical on Thursday if the tests 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:51.680 come back clean, and then once UH, if that all 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.480 goes to plan, they could begin strength and conditioning in 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.520 groups of no larger than fifteens. According to a report 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.600 from Bleacher Reports, So that's what that's training camp this 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:05.800 week in the NFL. And UH, it's different. It's gonna 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:08.160 be different, and you just hope it gets off the ground. 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:12.080 Sean McVeigh apparently expressed doubt that this is going to 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:16.000 happen on time on July. We're all gonna be kind 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:18.600 of like we're saying, just like the news about the 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.920 virus seems to change our by our we are plan 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:25.200 will as well. We're all like, you know, living through 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:29.000 the movie Tenant, you know, moving it's it's released day 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:33.720 back every two weeks. That is parallel is the country. 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.520 Because for as much as we want to kill the 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.040 NFL or what, and there's a lot of just anger 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.639 and everything, I did go back and read some stuff 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.320 from early May, and it's like there wasn't there was 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:46.919 no expectation and and that's our own naivety and our 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.160 own people had too much faith in the government, are 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:54.720 in everything. That there was no expectation that cases would 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:58.960 be double what they were back in May. There's no 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:01.639 expectation that the testing problem that really I think is 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.040 crucial for these teams um would be in a worse 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.440 situation in a lot of places, and that this uneven 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:10.159 balance of like hey, a couple of you know, some 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.200 of these teams are actually an okay, shape to go back. 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.680 It's interesting to me then, I'm wondering your thoughts. Hearing 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:18.520 today that Jets and Giants are already announcing that there 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.680 won't be fans of the crowd. It's interesting that they 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.919 were the first teams to announce that because New Jersey, 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.960 New York actually, you know, in terms of having the 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.560 the you know, virus under control is in a better 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.720 shape than than virtually any place right now. But they've 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.120 been through it and they sort of know that that, 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.560 you know, they can't risk anything. They want to keep 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.639 it that way and have a ton of all of 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.080 my families in New York and New Jersey and things 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.280 are a lot better there right now, and that's why 0:23:44.320 --> 0:23:46.480 they don't want people coming into the area right now. 0:23:46.520 --> 0:23:47.920 They want to keep it that way. And the idea 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.080 of you know, getting out of the hell that was 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.479 in March April May in the Tri state area and 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:59.760 then saying well, we're fine now, so let's get people 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.560 into to a stadium. I'm glad there's leadership there that 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:06.200 understands that's a needless risk. So that's good New Wait 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:14.760 you hear that, Oh what kind of a man are you? 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:20.600 I'm trying to work for a week, do nothing. You 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:24.840 are nothing. You're sitting here all day and play that sick, 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:31.600 repulsive electric twinger. I want any lord guitar. Well, I 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:35.120 don't get Dan. I don't understand that here. Well, right 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:37.480 you have. I guess you didn't play shuffleboard by yourself. 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.000 He doesn't sound like he wants to play with you. 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:41.720 What are the I got such a nice impression of 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:44.639 Bill at home with his family and his you know, 0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:46.600 his children, his wife when they when they had a 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:48.439 hard knocks that really humanized him. And this is a 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.040 different side of him at home. I'm surprised. Yeah, I 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.119 guess when NFL films cameras aren't on him. Do you 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.720 see what really happens? Again? Another also shot across the 0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:01.320 bow of the podcast industry that's out that, oh, there's 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:02.960 no signal that could be sent down to here to 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.800 bring me down, so I'll just be my natural self. Well, 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:10.560 Bill jokes on you bro use it as revenge and 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:16.679 other news. Alright, this broke last week. Obviously, we know 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.880 that the uh Redskins no longer there now the Washington 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.080 football team for the time being, as they figure out 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.480 what their new name will be. Later in the week, 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:31.000 the Washington Post dropped the bombshell report about misconduct within 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:35.880 the organization over the last uh, what was it, two decades, 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.800 accusations from fifteen women of sexual harassment and verbal assault 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:45.200 against former club club officials. And there's obviously gonna be 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.719 a lot of fallout from that, as there should be, 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:54.000 and the Post reported that the NFL will consider disciplining 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.480 the team, but it is not expected to force Daniel 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.240 Snyder to sell the team, at least that's where we 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.919 are right now. That was an initial thought, and we 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.600 saw different circumstances with Jerry Richardson and the Panthers a 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.359 couple of years back when he was very quickly forced 0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.760 to sell the team because of some very ugly issues 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.880 going on behind the scenes there. Right now, it doesn't 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.120 seem like Snyder will be forced out of the league 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:21.080 at this point, but a fine could be coming, and 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:23.480 a hefty one at that. You would think it doesn't 0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:25.680 look like it's gonna happen. You know that any force 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.800 out's gonna happen quickly, But there is more um, there's 0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.879 more pressure about it than than ever before. You know, 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:34.480 Peter King certain you know, writing in a column saying 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.560 why Snyder has to go. UM that he's not the 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:40.760 only one, UM, you know, to be to be saying 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:44.440 these sort of things, and I do. I think it's 0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.959 just interesting, you know, more than anyone, you know, Fred Smith, 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:52.480 the owner of FedEx, the minority owner of the Redskins, 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.680 is pushing for this in his own subtle way. I mean, 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.880 he's not saying it, but he's trying to get out, 0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.400 and all the other minority owners of the team are 0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.680 trying to get out, according to the Washington Post, and 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:05.199 that's been the case before this report. And UM, I 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.119 think we've seen this year and we've seen it with 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.520 the Washington name change, which is, you know, another thing 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.840 that organization is trying to deal with in a very 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.639 quick manner. It's very complicated. UM. You know, money is 0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:21.280 what changes. You know, money, money is what UM forces change. 0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:23.840 At least it has a lot this summer. And I 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.560 don't know that the minority owners trying to get out. 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.359 It does leave it to me kind of an unsettled 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.520 situation that it maybe it's not happening quickly, but it's 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.240 something I think everyone around the NFL is gonna be 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.880 watching pretty closely over the next season the next year. Well, 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.159 and the problem with sports ownership is that, um, you know, 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.080 it's it's it hinges on the money that you spoke about, 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.000 and if you have it, you can just stay in 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.640 the role. And you know, even even if you want 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.399 to just look at it from a football perspective, what 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.360 we like to look at these coaches and say, well, 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.320 what do the what does a coach bring to the 0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.920 fold other than simply being in the position. What is 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.840 what is Daniel Snyder do well? They have one playoff win, Um, 0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.000 since he took over the team. In that was when 0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.760 our friend Chris Simms, um knocked out what they basically 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.520 beat Chris Simms and John Gruden, that old box. You're 0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.880 going friends with him now, your friend, your buddies. Well, 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.320 he's not an enemy, he's the oppositeve. I like him 0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.480 quite a bit. But I'm just gonna ask you what 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.000 is Daniel Snyder do well at all? And I feel, 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.560 if anything, from an on field perspective, that we're losing 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.200 one of the better fan bases and now in general 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.680 Washington is embroiled in total madness. Um, what's been going 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:35.280 on there? You try to tell me that the owner 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.440 didn't know about any of that. UM, I simply don't 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.120 buy it. I would be do you need deep cutting changes? 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.560 Snyder issued a statement frauday through the team. The behavior 0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.280 described in yesterday's Washington Post article is no place in 0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.800 our franchise or society. The story has strengthened my commitment 0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.320 to setting a new culture and standard for our team, 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.120 a process that began with the hiring of coach Ron 0:28:57.200 --> 0:29:01.520 Rivera earlier this year. Rivera is being hoisted up as 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.440 kind of the symbol of change in Washington. UM. And 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.479 I guess from that viewpoint, you could look at this 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.600 job he has now as a great opportunity for him 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.920 personally because of the if I almost said it, if 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:20.280 Washington does go and turn it around and things clean 0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.680 up behind the scenes, he's going to get a lot 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.680 of credit for that. Uh, and he probably will deserve it, 0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.440 because he's a guy that has been in the league 0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:31.600 for a while and knows what he's doing. Conversely, it's 0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.600 a very tough job that he just took because the 0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:38.440 team has been kind of messy for years now, and UH, 0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.560 it's been dysfunctional, and he is now the guy in 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.000 charge of not only on some level, cleaning up things 0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.560 on the field, but also being a agent of change 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.320 behind the scenes. That's a lot of work for one 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.160 guy to do, right And if you think about the 0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.440 coaches that have tried that and failed. I mean Joe 0:29:55.480 --> 0:30:00.560 Gibbs under Dan Snyder, hall of Famer in two sports. 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.400 You know, he knows how to build Gibbs, right. He 0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.640 even like they were just saying, Gibbs, give us a winner. 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:11.280 Rivera even him being cited in the quote from Snyder 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.400 Snyder's basically saying to Rivera, fix our team and fix 0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:18.040 our the culture of our organization, right. I mean they've tried. 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.680 They've tried, you know, guys who are incredible play callers 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.200 with the Shanahan and stuff, and that hasn't worked. And 0:30:24.560 --> 0:30:26.800 I do think, um, you know, it is worth noting 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.719 kind of the just the reaction from this story. Obviously 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:33.000 it's it's a horrible story. It's an embarrassment, but from 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.360 from some of our colleagues, like like Lindsay Rhodes saying 0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.320 and so many women who say that this wasn't news 0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:41.920 to them, and it's not unique just to the Washington 0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:46.080 UH franchise. In Rian Rhan and Walker, who covered the 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.080 team now works for The Athletic wrote a really good 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.040 piece in The Athletic about it and and that it's 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.560 just it's more than just a Washington problem. Um. But 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.840 but also that I think people around the league no 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:00.400 one was surprised that Washington was the one that that 0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.400 in this case, was was called out for it. Yeah. 0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:07.800 Colleen tweeted about it too last week that the story 0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.640 brought back, you know, triggered the worst memories of you know, 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:12.920 what she's had to deal with in the business. And 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.880 I spoke with her last week about it, and uh, 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.280 you know, she said it. She said it not in 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.440 a way that she was it brought back and put 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.080 her in a dark place, but that she was just 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:23.920 it was kind of a matter of fact thing that 0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:26.960 that's part of the business. And we have been around, 0:31:27.360 --> 0:31:29.240 you know, women that we worked with for years at 0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.160 these league events. It is not this is real. I 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.240 mean I've I've seen it at the at the league 0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.000 events and the way uh you know, when people have 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.560 some drinks in them, uh the league. You know, I 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:41.960 don't know, I want to say who got involved with what, 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.200 but we've all seen it. We've seen ugly behavior, and 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.320 you would you would hope one thing that comes good 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:51.200 comes out of something negative, just like what happened with 0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.160 George Floyd and the protests that happened. That people see 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.280 what's happening to Washington, and they caused them to reflect 0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.640 on how they should behave around women and and people 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.560 should be treated as equals and not as an object 0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:05.920 to be lusted for. It's it's it's real deal stuff, 0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:10.520 and I'm glad that the light is being shined on it. Yeah. 0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:12.680 Key thing was, it's every team, It's not just one. 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.520 I mean it's like, if you want to investigate deeper 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:20.080 into each organization, you're gonna find similar stories. All right, 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.200 moving on, We'll hit a couple of quick nuggets here 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:28.000 before we uh continue on the show. Two Patriots nugs 0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:33.440 Greg number one. ESPN Boston's Mike Reese reports that Mosta 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.280 New has hired a full time coach to live with 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:41.360 him this offseason. According to Rice, some New hopes that 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:45.800 this set up quote creates a situation where his relentless 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:51.680 offseason work produces tangible on field results. In what the 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:54.480 hell is going on here? I love it? I love it. 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.600 This is a man that once he said the slander 0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:00.240 he played, he had a high angle spring this second. 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.720 He showed up to New England and did not and played, 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.480 you know, very poorly. After that, that trade by Bill 0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.720 come On probably was but I think at least it 0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.400 was a bad trade. But there's a chance, at least 0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.440 I think he's out there trading with Cam Newton, which 0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:16.520 is fun to say. There's a chance at least that 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.720 he can salvage it as a useful part of their team, 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.800 which he was absolutely not last year. He hurt them 0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.680 by playing injury. He should have just gone on I 0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.680 R or whatever he needed to do. I would do 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:30.640 this with every rookie quarterback who's expected to see the field. Um, 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.840 any sort of key central star player. You have a 0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.840 coach with seven younger guys. I mean I I kind 0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.360 of like the idea. That sounds like a CBSL access 0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.200 show or something. I don't know what. It doesn't sound 0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:43.560 like major. I'm not sure I would watch it, but 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:45.920 there's a lot of digital streaming places that that that 0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:48.000 feels like a show. The coach comes. I mean, Dan, 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:50.120 you're like, you're living with a coach right now, so 0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.120 I'm not sure what your counterpoint would be keeping keep 0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.479 your voice down. He could he could come up at 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.720 any moment. Well, it does. It makes me think about listen, 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:04.360 snow is priv ledged financially, um, and he has options 0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.840 to do these sort of things. And I think about 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:10.279 myself and I think everyone is the same way. You 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:14.040 think of ways that you could make yourself into a 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:18.560 better version of you. But then again, it's like, Mark, 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.400 do you want someone living in your house telling you 0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:24.200 to be better? That feels like it would be terrible. Um, 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.799 I wouldn't mind like a plugged in life coach kind 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.640 of just a moment saying like, you know, let's let's 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.840 think about that. Let's make a better decision here. You know, 0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:33.839 it wouldn't be the worst worst. Who is that? Who 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:39.040 is the the female nutrition nutritionist exercise lady that you 0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:44.440 were way into for a while, way into in the 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:48.520 class of Autumn from Beach Body, and she she help 0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.000 me help me lose like eighteen pounds and twenty days. 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:55.560 Just did a boxing class this morning, So Autumn CALABRESI 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.960 would you be okay if she was living with you 0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.239 in the house and just tracking you at all times 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.320 to make sure you're being the best version of yourself. 0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.719 I think it would. I think it would be helpful 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:07.600 toward my fitness. I don't think that she would sign 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.000 up for that on any level. I think it's a 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:12.040 bit of a different relationship between most a new in 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:16.160 his position coach than um, you know, grabbing a beach 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.799 body trainers site unseen and forced forcing them to live 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:22.000 in this household. Please, I'll always remember I texted you know, 0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:26.120 Mark a picture that autumn CALABRISI was speaking at one 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:29.520 of the Santa Monica public libraries that I was that 0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:31.359 I was at with my children, and that was like 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.120 Mark's chance to really rob albas and meet meet his hero. 0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.840 Not everyone gets to meet their hero. Well, I didn't. 0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.080 I didn't do much with that advice I apologist Greg 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.200 And you say, why would she want to do it? Well, 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.720 money talks, right, I don't have the money that would 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.839 make that would be speaking. Let's put it that way. 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.719 It's the that's the other big problem here. Your money 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.239 would be mumbling, yeah, it would be the best, you know, 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:57.520 tired roar, Wait, you want to give me thirty seven 0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.840 dollars to live with you for six months? Right? What 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.800 is the upside? Um? Good news Mark and other Patriot 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:09.640 news Cam Newton is the latest pro athlete to get up. 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.200 I won't even say get up on his high horse, 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:12.840 because it's it's not right to get up on a 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.880 horse like that, to say, the vegan lifestyle is the 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:20.040 way to go, and a plant based diet has changed 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:24.480 my life and it's made my body responding ways that 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:28.200 I never thought it could. And uh, I'm gonna do Uh, 0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.400 I'm gonna do a campaign with Peter cam Newton says, 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:35.920 wearing a Vegan strong shirt. So congratulations, Mark, you have 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:40.319 another big time name in your corner in cam Newton. Well, 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.400 I think when cam Newton's signed with the Patriots, I 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:46.440 decided either I'm gonna be um, you know, real antagonistic 0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.160 about this because I just don't like it, or I'm 0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.000 gonna get all on board. And that was before I 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:52.840 heard this. I decided to get all on board. I 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.799 love I love the whole idea of it. It's make 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.520 it makes whatever part of a season we get that 0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:59.640 must Matt much more interesting. And there are it is 0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:03.800 not um unusual at this point, especially for players rehabbing 0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:06.760 and coming off certain types of injuries, to look harder 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.959 a diet. And um, I just would say this because 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.200 I always get pegged as being this person with this 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.080 diet thing. Like, I just think there's huge chunks of 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.800 people out there that shouldn't eat that way. Some should, 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:19.160 some shouldn't. Like I just think if it fits for you, 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.080 it does, and there's certain athletes and certain types of 0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:27.040 bodies that they respond to it. He's in according to 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:29.960 all those instant Instagram videos there Dan, he looks. He 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.480 definitely looks like you're not loving this. That looks They're 0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.320 back in the center. They're back in the center of 0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:41.960 the first of all, this is being added to the 0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:48.000 trope list, the vegan diet thing. Why it is hardly 0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:50.600 happening a long enough or distance. We don't need to 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:52.759 hear the stories about it all the time. You're right, 0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.200 it's actually common enough. I don't think that, like it's 0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.719 is it that interesting as a story? That's fine, But 0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.480 I mean there lying every other like tweet I see 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.840 right now is people like I just cooked a steak 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.200 for forty eight hours in my oven. It's like, so 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.280 that you want that, you don't want you want that information, 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.160 but you don't want anything counter to that. I hear you. 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.040 I'm just saying the people that cook the steak, they're 0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:18.160 just saying I'm looking forward to eating this delicious piece 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:22.240 of meat. The vegan guy like a Cam Newton's like, oh, 0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:25.440 my body's never gonna be better. You know, this is 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.600 the way. It is a little preachy. I feel sometimes, well, 0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:29.600 I'm think I just want to eat the steak. I'm 0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.279 mostly vegan, and my body has never looked worse. So 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.480 I I Am going to keep it real with you, 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.719 and I'm meat eater and my body's never look Maybe 0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:41.520 it's just for getting old. Cam Newton, by the way, 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.680 was a meat eater in two thousand fifteen, all those 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.920 years ago when he was the m v P. And 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.200 answer your question, well, jump on the football. If you 0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.560 don't like you don't like that, I do to it 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.000 marks defense. I don't like the people who then are like, 0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.480 well did you see Arian Foster's numbers after he went 0:38:57.840 --> 0:39:00.640 like that's annoying to the people claiming that vegan makes 0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.560 them better players are just as annoying as the vegan 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:06.160 like not eating meat makes them worse players. It's just 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:10.200 like he's figure out their own diet. Here's bee, here's 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.040 the nuance to the trope. And maybe Brady in so 0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.960 many ways as an outlier the guy that you usually 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.200 read about saying I'm now a vegan and my body 0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:24.360 has never been better. It's usually uh NFL star on 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.880 the other side of the hill that is trying to 0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.239 recapture past glories and is looking to change up his 0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:34.120 diet as part of that quest. Uh And more often 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:36.680 than that, I would imagine Arian Foster is the example. 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.160 Then a guy changes up the diet and all of 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.839 a sudden is as good as he was five years earlier. Well, 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.279 it's also it's it's not I don't think they're coming 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.120 up with it on the fly and a vacuum. It's trainers. 0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:51.600 It's nutritionists with more information than they had in UM 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.640 But you're right, it's it's people open to new solutions 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.320 and so they are UM trying to save and lengthen 0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:00.799 their career. It's not the twenty two year all necessarily, 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.359 who is probably also outtill three in the morning if 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:05.560 he wants to be. And before you get on me 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:08.799 on Twitter or the subreddit or whatever, I'm fine with it. 0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.120 I'm fine with people v vegan. I'm just having fun. 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.680 Everybody just relax and Greg, I have no problem with 0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.359 um Cam Newton beyond the Patriots. I know you want 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.359 me to be really upset about it, but really not. 0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:23.240 In fact, it's kind of fun. The Patriots being super boring. 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.000 It wasn't a great hook as a guy that covers 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.880 football and likes to dislike the Patriots camp being in 0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.319 a picture makes them so much more interesting. And as 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.200 I said on this show and on the Network show 0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.399 before he signed, I was I was rooting for the guy. 0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.000 I hope he does well. I don't hope the Patriots 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.839 do well. I hope he's basically a lesser version of 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:46.239 what he once was. But I don't want him to 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.440 fall on his face out right. It's a bit of 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:52.560 a tricky uh lined wired across as a guy rooting 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.759 for Cam. But I will say this, Greg, you got 0:40:55.800 --> 0:40:58.520 Cam Newton there, Okay, you got Yard said I'm still 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.360 waiting in the wings, Bill still in the building. You 0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:04.239 got some new with the life coach living with him. 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:08.799 All that's great. But I'll tell you something, despite all that, 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.879 the Patriots aren't special anymore. M Well, that was That's 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.960 all I'm saying. As you were saying you were, your 0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:18.480 narrative was they were a relevant team. That was yours. 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:24.680 You did you did not say irrelevant real anymore. Maybe 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:34.560 I said relevant once or twice. All right, good talk. Oh, 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.120 I have an update. I'm long overdue on an update. 0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.879 Developing news here. Yeah, we didn't want to press, but 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:52.200 we've been waiting. Yeah, it's time for the update. What's 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.440 going on with the Gatesville Messenger. People think that I'm 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.839 ducking the story, and it's just it was a matter 0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.040 of timing and circumstance here in the middle of the summer, 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:02.040 the gates a Messenger for people that aren't aware of it. 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.480 Since I got to Texas earlier this summer, I thought 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:09.880 it would be um fun and good for both sides. 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:13.640 The newspaper, the local paper of record in Gatesville, Texas, 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.440 a small town in central Texas where my wife is from, 0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:20.160 to maybe do a feature piece on the old zeuser 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:24.799 and around the NFL podcast coming to Texas and doing 0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.440 remote shows from a local insurance office UH in the 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:33.520 center of downtown Gatesville and UH. I was approached by 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.920 a reporter for the Katesville Messenger who said, I'm gonna 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:40.360 come by the office, I'm gonna interview you, I'm gonna 0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.520 take a photo. And like I said, I was very excited, 0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:46.319 and I wanted to be on the front page. And 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.879 I saw that as almost a referendum on where I 0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:51.520 was in my life, whether I get front page status 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.919 or if I'm buried within the messenger. And sure enough, 0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.279 a couple of weeks ago, Uh, there is in the 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.160 in the back the pay and the back of the 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:06.799 paper about eighty words. NFL Network comes to Gatesville, and 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.160 I'm thinking, oh, this is not good. The guy never 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.360 showed up. You never shoot showed up to the office 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:14.000 the reporter, and I don't want to get on him 0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:17.120 too hard. But he told me the subject of the interview, Hey, 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:18.920 I'll be there. I'm gonna take a photo and we're 0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:20.600 gonna talk. He just never shows. And then there's a 0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.279 blurb in the paper, well, I come here to eat crow. 0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.760 But what today? I get a call from the editor 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:40.879 in chief. Okay, okay, I get a phone call from 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.879 the editor of the paper. It says, I don't want 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.000 to get into the exact specifics of what she said, 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.360 but a long lines of there was a miscommunication within 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:53.040 our building. We would love to do a full feature story. 0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:56.759 We want a photo. She didn't say front page, but 0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.319 I think that's where this could be heading and she's 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:04.160 assigning her top features story columnist to conduct a phone 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:07.200 interview with me this week. And things are looking up 0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:09.160 for the old Zuser and the Gatesville Messenger. That's all 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.080 I'm gonna say. It was looking very bad. Now it's 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:16.760 looking very good. The saga continues, Well, I mean, if anything, 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:21.560 you're I could hear the disappointment, not at all. If anything, 0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.759 it sounds like if there are signing, you know, the 0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:27.520 Gatesville Messengers top features reported to this, it sounds like 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.279 um front page material. And you know, it's just nice 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.960 to see your star rise in conjunction with the power 0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.200 and the readership of newspapers, which has never been um, 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.560 you know, more glowing than it is today. If you 0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:41.640 if you're doing anything, you're read in the newspaper right now. 0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:44.520 I did wonder what was the glow, the glow around 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.879 Hansas today. I thought it was probably just a week off, 0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.719 a lot of great family time. He's back in Texas. 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:51.520 But I don't know if that glow would be quite 0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.680 as bright if it wasn't for this call, but from 0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:56.600 the editor in chief, I don't think it would. UM. 0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:59.120 We will continue to keep you up to date with 0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.440 all the latest developments. One thing, are you gonna have 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.600 the the the reporter that basically you know, we all 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.480 heard that call. He was gonna come down to the 0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:11.640 insurance office where you were doing the show and um, 0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.520 you know be there to listen to and are you 0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.360 has will he be fired? What is the repercussions for 0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.200 someone not cover? Wonder if they've heard they might have 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.680 they might have heard the show too and realized they 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.840 were getting some bad press here, she said. The woman 0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:26.960 said she was thankful that we've been talking about the 0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:30.520 paper and and I don't want to say what's going 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.839 to happen to that sports editor because I certainly didn't 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.680 put in any phone calls, But it didn't sound like 0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.279 his boss is very happy. That's all I'm gonna say. 0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.040 But that's not my is not my department. I'm just 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.400 happy to be in contact with the top of the 0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.120 food chain and things are going very well. And we 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:51.040 will keep you updated on everything surrounding the Gates, little 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:56.799 messenger and the old Zeuser potential front page headline. You know, 0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:59.800 you guys think this is just like some biller content 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.680 to get us through the summer. This is probably gonna 0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.640 be the biggest story in September too on the Who's 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:09.239 you guys like we just got it to dance subconscious 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:11.600 there's no it might be the only thing we have 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:16.120 to talk about, the quiet part out loud. No, it 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:17.640 might be the only thing we have to talk about. 0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:26.279 Is all right, that's what's happening in the news. All right. 0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:32.000 So we're fully aware if you've listened to what's happened 0:46:32.000 --> 0:46:34.680 in the show so far today, of the hurdles that 0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:40.520 exist UM to get players on the field, and even 0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.560 if and when that happens, is this gonna work? I 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.759 was extremely um lifted up. You want to talk about 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:50.080 a glow Greg watching the Yankees and Mets into UM 0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:55.919 exhibition games in the city, uh over the weekend, where 0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.799 it just felt like it was working. It felt like 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:01.160 real baseball, uh, with the option of the crowd noise, 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.280 which I really think the NFL needs to uh steer 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:08.719 clear of the the fake crowd noise. I don't know 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:10.640 why we feel like we should be doing this. And 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:12.880 I know it's not just happening. Baseball's happening at soccer 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.680 and it's happening good in the world. I think it's funny. 0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.040 I sort of it isn't a round of silly it is, 0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:22.440 but at least with I think I think baseball is 0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:24.920 a little different, but soccer it's such a part of 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:28.759 like the low hum in the in the like it 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:30.799 like sort of lets you know because if you're not 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.879 like watching every second. I think it makes more sense 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:34.959 in soccer though than baseball. And it's tricky you gotta 0:47:34.960 --> 0:47:36.600 get it right. I think they've gotten it right. Like 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:40.720 on the NBC broadcast. Soccer is a hypnotic, like soccer 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.239 the rise, but you know, to like look up, you know, 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.960 it's like stuff like that. Football has that too. But 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.239 I think that aren't we just like a little too 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:54.120 savvy to not be right? I'm with you, I don't 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:58.480 need to think. It made me think of someone of 0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:00.279 a certain age when you think about one of the 0:48:00.360 --> 0:48:03.600 major things that have happened in our lifetimes. The two 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.920 biggest things to me nine eleven and now the coronavirus. 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.520 And I remember when nine eleven happened. There were some 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.280 things now when you look back or a little cringe 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.839 e because everyone was just trying to like get through 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:15.759 it and trying to think of ways to make life 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.759 a little bit better. It's like when Fred Durst was 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:22.759 doing charity songs, uh and rapping about nine eleven and 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.680 it's like, oh, it was for charity, and the moment 0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:25.880 it was like, all right, that's fine, and now you 0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:27.480 look back at it and things like that just seemed 0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:29.759 cringe e for the time that it took place in 0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:31.920 That's how I feel like. We're gonna look back at 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:35.319 the sports with the canned crowds like everybody was doing 0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.920 it because we just want to feel like life is 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:40.319 a little bit normal. But then down the line maybe 0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:44.080 it will be a little cringe e. That's all I know. 0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:45.879 But it was good to watch sports this weekend. I'll 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:48.880 tell you what. That was nice. But anyway, this segment 0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:54.120 is ignoring all this negative noise all around us for 0:48:54.200 --> 0:48:59.200 just a moment. We're not we're not um being soldiers 0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.279 of the league here and being like everything's fine, keep 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.279 keep walking along and the football's coming. July twenty eight. 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.799 If everything is good, please pay me. That's not what 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.960 this is about. We are fully aware of what's going on, 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:14.640 so they know, they know if they've made it this far. Unfortunately, 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:19.319 today's segment is everything is fine, Everything's fine, let's talk 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:23.600 about football. That's it. That's it. We're talking about things 0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:27.760 that we under normal circumstances, right, Greg would just be 0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:31.239 excited to talk about with a season coming up, right 0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.319 in some show. You know, maybe we've leaned into it 0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.600 too far the other way because we're a news show. 0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.880 That's sort of how we started, and so that the 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:42.480 news is dark right now. But it's crazy because I 0:49:42.520 --> 0:49:44.880 do have to, you know, you have to live with 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.279 the reality that there's there is a chance Week one 0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:49.160 is going to start on time or close to on time, 0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:51.560 and it's like we we do need to be prepared 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:54.080 for that, and I do feel like it's tricky. Of 0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:57.120 course we're distracted. It's the most distracting thing ever, but 0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.320 at some point we sort of we need to be ready. 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.919 We need to preparing our our listeners for this season too. 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.040 If it's gonna happen, we gotta start getting about it. 0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:07.959 It's almost like you feel a little guilty just talking 0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.200 about football, and it makes you seem like you're being 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.239 willfully ignorant. Well, if that's what it is, so bad 0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:18.680 talk about something fun, what could come in six to 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.040 eight weeks? You started off mark, you know for me, 0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:25.440 because I this is like, what what will get me excited? 0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:28.520 And what, um, what's ahead that I'm genuinely intrigued by, 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.279 And so I'm not I think you know me well enough. 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.440 I'm not gonna fake and just say this thing gets 0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.600 me going. It's there are There is something that happens 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.280 every year, though, and it's the fact that we're sitting 0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:41.759 here in July and we have no idea, um me 0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.200 personally what happens to me because my team is always 0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.080 like a flaming train wreck that crashes into a mountain 0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:49.520 by week four. So I don't when things are going 0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:51.799 great for your team. It's great to be charitable and 0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:53.680 love all these other teams and have this great time 0:50:54.120 --> 0:50:56.960 when you're personally on fire. I'm looking for like things 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.680 different than just like major teams, and so what I 0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:02.959 owe us have every year or like kind of new 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.239 heroes and guys that come out of the woodwork that 0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.400 I wouldn't even know, Like last year at this time, 0:51:07.800 --> 0:51:10.719 no idea who Gardner min she was, didn't care, No 0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:13.480 idea that David Blow would become a central part of 0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:18.200 my adulthood, No idea that both Scarborough these guys started 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:22.279 um beloved fan clubs the Scarborough Heads, the blowhards them 0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:25.600 and shootings, and so I'm wondering, like three months from now, 0:51:25.680 --> 0:51:28.680 let's just say everything starts on time. Who is captured 0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.680 in my heart? Someone what it is it is? And 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:35.520 this exercise it is everything, It's great everything, And there's 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:38.839 gonna be seven or eight you know, new people that 0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:42.440 I absolutely enamored with who tell the story to the 0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.279 season the way that I like. I can think someone 0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:46.719 like Jalen Hurts maybe comes in and does a lot 0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.720 of special stuff and then something you've got a Jalen 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.480 Hurts so good fan club that could be fun like there, 0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:56.040 who knows there's so much possibilities out there and more 0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.800 pretend names. No, because I'm not you know what I 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.040 That's the one thing that I just let come to 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:05.640 me organically, and I'm going to let right right guys 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.120 that you wanted to even think of to be able 0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:10.359 to think clubs about. So we need it. We need 0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.439 the season to start on time because I need these 0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.759 people in my life. You've always been a fan of 0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:18.920 the underdog in football, Mark, you do latch on to 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.200 those people. Maybe it goes all the way back to 0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.440 your love of Bernie Kosar a man on the surface 0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:26.759 had no business being a star NFL quarterback and then 0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:28.640 turned into one of the great gun slingers of the 0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:32.080 of your formative years. Well, that's one way to put 0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:34.520 his career. I could spend it very differently than that. 0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:38.439 I think he was a a national title winning college star. 0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:42.279 Who you know That's that's a way better set up 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:45.239 for Bernie. Okay, I guess I just the eighties, the 0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:48.520 eighties perm that certain guys had. I always struggled to 0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.759 take them seriously. Well, you know who else had that perm? 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:52.680 Dan Marino and I it was it was hard to 0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:57.520 think that bad is bad. I mark marks into uh 0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.920 into underdogs. I I am realizing as you say that, 0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:04.319 I'm sort of into divisions like I I like love 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:07.000 the I love the rivalries. I sometimes picked divisions. I've 0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:09.320 always been into the NFC South, but I'm really excited 0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:12.280 about the a f C West this year. There's thinking 0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:15.000 about like the matchups in that division. The Chiefs to 0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:19.279 me are like the most exciting defending champion like in 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.279 terms of just like I'm still at that point and 0:53:21.320 --> 0:53:23.280 maybe I'll always be at that point. With Patrick Mahomes, 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:25.799 I am looking forward to watching them play every week. 0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:27.439 I don't care if they're too good, Like I don't 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.840 care if they crush everyone too. It's like the most 0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:33.520 to me, he's the most exciting player just about that 0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:37.360 we've ever covered. But then those rivalries in that division 0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.840 are sneaky fun, and I think that that division is 0:53:40.840 --> 0:53:43.120 sneaky fun, that every matchup that you can kind of 0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:44.800 put out there is kind of fun. This year, the 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:48.759 Raiders rolling out like this nineteen eighties offense. Nate Nate 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:52.399 Tye called it that on on the Mina Times Show 0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:55.200 last week, and it's true like that, it's three tight ends, 0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:58.160 it's running, it's basically doing what Bill Walsh would do 0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.200 if you was still life. Is all these complete since 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:04.600 it's like it's that style versus the Chargers with with Tyrod, 0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:06.680 which I just think it's gonna be a little more 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:08.799 fun and a little more interesting than people thinking a 0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:13.200 ton of like defensive stars. And then it's the Broncos, 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:16.560 who I am liking that I went back and watched 0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:19.600 these quarterbacks and Drew Lock I am more excited about 0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:22.839 than I was. He's got big time players around him 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:26.360 in terms of Sutton and Judy and the two running backs, 0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:30.439 and there the fans of these fans, these teams are 0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:34.359 great like Chargers, Broncos, Raiders, Chiefs fans, they get after 0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:36.360 each other. It's because they've had these rivalries for the 0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:38.200 most part for so long and there hasn't been a 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:39.960 lot of change. And to me, like this is a 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:42.840 fascinating division where anything can happen, and they have the 0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:45.640 most fun team in the Chiefs. I'm with you, it's 0:54:45.640 --> 0:54:48.680 gonna be very competitive and uh, maybe the Chiefs are 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:54.399 the heavy favorite and they are, but right and they're fun. 0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:57.080 Do you think about in the Chiefs struggled last year? 0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:59.920 It was some of those um some of the divi 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:03.040 as in games, you know, not not against the Raiders, 0:55:03.080 --> 0:55:05.799 but again certainly against the Chargers, and I think the 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:07.640 Broncos are going to be really frisk. Well, it's also 0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.879 what could go wrong factor with Kansas City because it's 0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:13.360 easy and you know nothing is happening right now to 0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:16.040 ticket them, ticket them for four or five more Super Bowls. 0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:18.080 But we talked about this on our network show, like 0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:21.080 that just doesn't happen. These teams have a season where 0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.080 you think they're set up to win for the next 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:26.839 win when multiple titles and then something disastrous occurs. So 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:30.000 there is the other shoe drops scenario with Kansas City. 0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:34.200 I shouldn't bring it up in this conversation. But one 0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:38.440 thing we can't will into existence with positivity and looking 0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:40.439 the other way is that there's not gonna be most 0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.160 likely anybody watching these games in the crowd. That's that's 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.200 gonna make these a f C West battles different. Part 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:49.280 of the fun of it is the stadiums going bonkers, uh, 0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.799 with you know, passion and electricity. But that is what 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:55.720 it is. I guess the only one I can't the Chargers. 0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:58.200 I just struggle to get pumped up about because Tyrod 0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:01.800 Taylor boars me to tears as quarterback. And Herbert's a 0:56:01.840 --> 0:56:05.719 guy that their first pick that you heard some mixed 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.800 things about coming out of college. The offensive line is 0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:11.320 not better, so he might be in a bad situation. Uh. 0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:13.279 That's the only thing that maybe it doesn't jump back 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:17.680 out to make And Mike Williams and Keenan Allen and 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:21.680 Hunter Henry and and Derwin James and Joey Bosa and 0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:23.880 Desmond it's just like they got a lot of they 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:25.880 got Chris Harris is there not. It's like They got 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:27.600 a lot of players that are pretty fun to watch 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.600 on that roster if they can figure out, you know, 0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:32.600 how it all works. Um, I want to talk about 0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.160 what's going on in Chicago. I know it's on some 0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:39.400 level um been driven into the ground already, but I 0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:42.560 don't care, because now it's really gonna happen. One of 0:56:42.600 --> 0:56:47.359 the more interesting quarterback competitions that I can remember from 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:51.480 a summertime perspective between Mitchell Robinsky and Nick Foles, because 0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:55.000 both guys have such great background here and things have 0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:59.520 only ramped up more around Mitch Drabinsky with this Patrick Mahomes, 0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:01.680 he of winning Super Bowl m v P and now 0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:05.239 getting a half a billion dollar contract and all that 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:08.120 heat around. Trabiscue is drafted ahead of Mahomes and Watson. 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.680 Of course, now he gets his one last chance to 0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:14.480 make things right. And then Nick Foles, who was always 0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:17.400 going to be an intriguing figure in the NFL for 0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:21.240 what happened and in Philadelphia with the two playoff runs, 0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:23.200 especially the first one that led to the super Bowl 0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:26.760 title title and an m v P, and after completely 0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:29.480 lost year in Jacksonville, this is kind of his last chance, 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.120 I think, to put himself on the radar as a 0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:34.600 start of both guys desperately need to get their careers 0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:38.000 back on track, only one guy gets to be the starter. Yes, 0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:40.880 is it's more likely that both guys will end up starting, 0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:44.320 and whoever wins the battle um may end up starting 0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:47.400 only a few games. And Trabinsky feels like the favorite 0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:49.720 at least to come out of camp. But there's also 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.520 other elements of it that are interesting, the fact that 0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.640 there might not be a preseason, so the camp is 0:57:54.640 --> 0:57:57.160 going to be complete. The camp competition will be completely 0:57:57.480 --> 0:57:59.720 about what's happening on the practice field, and and had 0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:03.000 his Naggie makes sense of that. I'm just really looking 0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.520 forward to seeing how that all shakes out, because Rabinsky 0:58:05.680 --> 0:58:09.920 is borderline tragic figure at this point in Bears history, 0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:12.600 where and Folds is just like a really likable guy 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.560 that has had highs that really not many people have 0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:17.560 ever reached in the league. I mean I think that 0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:20.720 they I feel like they've been sheltering Miss Robinsky about 0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:23.960 as much as a you know, top two quarterback pick 0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:26.880 has ever been sheltered. And if anything, you want, if 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:28.640 you want to flip the script on him, I would 0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:32.360 view Folds as the heavy heavy favorite, especially in a 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:37.600 preseason list. Uh, you know, offseason where three coaches on 0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:39.760 the offensive side of the ball have worked with Nick 0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:41.720 Foles and all signed off on paying him a lot 0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:44.320 of money. And if anything, if we assume, and I'm 0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:46.640 with you, that Nick Foles will probably play and then 0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:50.560 Sobel Trabinsky, have Rabinsky come in and be the guy that, um, 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:53.520 you know, get that they're cheering for because Folds potentially 0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:56.600 fails or he succeeds. I would be shocked if Rabinsky 0:58:56.680 --> 0:58:59.320 won that job. I would I would really question what's 0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:02.120 happening there. That's the trajectory. Would also raised a question, 0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.080 what is a camp out. I'm gonna be like this year, 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:07.880 you know, I don't I don't know. Uh, there's gonna 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:09.840 be less reporters there. It's gonna take a little while 0:59:09.880 --> 0:59:13.960 to ramp up. They'll be like a whole new I 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:19.320 think COVID related series of tropes. So that's exciting. Everything's fine, 0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:21.560 you know what I mean. There's gotta be like COVID 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:26.040 trope of like how they're surviving this particular weird camp battle. 0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:30.960 And for what it's worth. Back in May, Naggi said 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.920 that both Fulls and Robiski will play with the starters 0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:35.840 during the preseason, while it's probably not gonna be a 0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:39.520 preseason or anything close to what was imagined back in 0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:42.000 the spring. So yeah, it's going to be a challenge 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:43.840 for the coaching staff to discern who is the guy 0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:45.920 who should be starting with team. We'll see where that goes. 0:59:45.920 --> 0:59:48.680 Anybody else have another one? I have one quick one 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.240 because the other thing I get into a certain seasons. 0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:53.040 I can think of like the two thousand and twelve 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:57.560 campaign when the read option in college stuff hit the 0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.120 the NFL play callers and it just was this, you 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:02.520 know revolution. I think most college fans were like, we've 1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:05.160 been watching this for a decade, but suddenly it's new 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:07.640 to you. But it was a fascinating season because of 1:00:07.760 --> 1:00:09.800 r G three and you had, you know, the rise 1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:13.080 of Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson and others that I 1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:16.920 want to see coming out of this really really weird preseason. 1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:19.200 We're gonna go into Week one. Everything is gonna be great, 1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:22.640 but what does it mean strategy wise? I'm with you, 1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:24.560 it's gonna be great, but I I wonder if there 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:28.640 is a huge advantage for a team like the Baltimore Ravens. 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:31.120 Who are you know, it's gonna take probably a month 1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:34.360 plus for these passing attacks to get in sync. You're 1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:36.960 a run heavy offense. You ran the ball nine more 1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:39.640 times than the second most run heavy team in the 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:42.600 league last year. You can stick to that versus having 1:00:42.640 --> 1:00:45.400 to change it. Um it fits your scheme so well. 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:47.440 They have like five running backs that could start all 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:50.040 over the place. And maybe it's a team like the 1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:52.640 Niners that you know that we hear that Raheem Mustard 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:55.160 is talking with the team again that trade is not 1:00:55.200 --> 1:00:57.919 gonna happen. Please that these two, the two most run 1:00:57.920 --> 1:00:59.720 heavy teams in the league could get off the fast 1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.880 starts based on the fact that, you know, life and 1:01:02.880 --> 1:01:05.480 football take time to plan, and the planning process just 1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:07.640 won't be there the same way that it's been there 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:09.960 in the past. Who are the rookies that thrived right 1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:12.440 away running backs? Like It's like, it just seems like 1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:16.040 a good situation for an old school run heavy first 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:19.680 month of football. I agree, and I also think it's 1:01:19.800 --> 1:01:22.280 it's so much of this season is gonna be I 1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:24.640 know where you know, everything's fine, and it is, but 1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:26.840 if you want to spend it positive in that way. 1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:30.520 It's like this, it being so different is an opportunity 1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:34.560 for a lot of coaches and players, but especially coaches 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:38.920 to stand out to do things either a little different 1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:41.480 or have their team a little more together than other 1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:44.439 teams like and in theory at the NFL usually doesn't 1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:46.040 work like this, but it's been going that way. Like 1:01:46.080 --> 1:01:48.160 it's an opportunity to be a little more creative and 1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:50.760 a little to think a little different, like Mark Sane, 1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:52.640 like some teams that are zigging like that, and it 1:01:52.760 --> 1:01:54.960 certainly worked last year for the Ravens and Niners might 1:01:55.400 --> 1:01:57.640 might come out like a house on fire if if 1:01:57.640 --> 1:02:00.680 they've got their stuff together. What if you wanted what 1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:03.960 if one team said forget everyone and freak You know what, 1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:05.840 you have nice families, but you're gonna see them in 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:10.800 six months. We're gonna we're gonna bubble were there. They're 1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:13.640 not gonna let him do that. I'm just saying the 1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:16.200 way you're describing, No, you're describing what it's like to 1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:18.880 be on the New England Patriots. And they're gonna thrive 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:21.960 in this setting. They come, they're absolutely gonna thrive in 1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:24.440 this scenario. I just I'm a little worried about that 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:27.040 because I don't think they're a talent rich team anymore 1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:29.919 and they're not special. But if I had to pick 1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:32.600 one team that will handle this better, it would probably 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:34.600 be the Belichick To remember, like when they got rid 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:37.080 of it in September, Remember when they find a Dahlias 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:39.760 Thomas because he couldn't drive through the snowstorm to get 1:02:39.760 --> 1:02:43.160 the practice or whatever it's gonna be. It's gonna be 1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:44.520 like that. I'm gonna throw out a couple of quick 1:02:44.560 --> 1:02:46.680 with since you didn't. How about Odell Beckham? How about 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:49.520 the blonde Nodell Becka. He's blonde, he's back, he's sick 1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:51.720 of being humble, just like Kim Newton. I don't know 1:02:51.760 --> 1:02:53.760 if you saw some of those like I wanna. I 1:02:53.800 --> 1:02:55.840 want to. I want to see, oh b j on 1:02:56.720 --> 1:02:59.000 you know, on ten or what if that was? I mean, 1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:01.080 I don't know. Some of this stuff is him just 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:03.160 making up stuff after the fact. How about Odell Belgo 1:03:03.360 --> 1:03:05.840 play a little better? Everything got put on that injury, 1:03:05.840 --> 1:03:07.600 come down with a contested catch. I don't know. He 1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:09.480 was moving pretty well some of that time. So even 1:03:09.520 --> 1:03:11.400 though he was injured, he did not play that well. 1:03:11.440 --> 1:03:13.480 And this is one of the most transformative players that 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:16.919 Chris Wessling Um like the calm I've he's ever seen 1:03:16.960 --> 1:03:19.640 that I've ever seen. He just didn't have a good season. 1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:22.320 And I think Um, for whatever reason, Baker was part 1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:23.760 of that. There's a lot that was part of it, 1:03:23.880 --> 1:03:26.240 but he didn't play well. Odell Beckham didn't play well. 1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:27.960 I think that got lost like a little bit. There 1:03:28.000 --> 1:03:30.280 were so many balls he did not come down with 1:03:30.360 --> 1:03:32.160 that he could and it wouldn't surprise me. If he 1:03:32.200 --> 1:03:35.000 comes out and you get you get the best Odell Beckham. 1:03:35.080 --> 1:03:38.840 I believe that you should. One thought on Beckham, and 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:40.960 I think this has been glossed over, is that he's 1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:44.000 always been injury prone since he came into the league. 1:03:44.280 --> 1:03:48.160 And the one concerned with him is that, especially as 1:03:48.160 --> 1:03:50.160 he's getting older. And I think he's still only twenty 1:03:50.160 --> 1:03:52.520 eight or something, But is this just a guy that 1:03:52.720 --> 1:03:55.280 his body isn't built to play sixteen games on a 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:58.160 regular basis. So I think when he's healthy, like right now, 1:03:58.240 --> 1:04:00.760 I believe him when he says I've ever felt better, 1:04:01.120 --> 1:04:03.720 and I'm his explosive ever in my blonde hair, and 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:05.680 now I feel like I'm myself again. Whatever that means, 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:08.720 but what happens when the contact starts? Can he stay 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:12.440 healthy and stay explosive well to he played through it. 1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:14.480 I mean there are other wide receivers that might not 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:16.320 have They would have used it as a reason and 1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:19.040 as a in a season going south to get out 1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:20.640 of there. I can think of another receiver in the 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:23.040 state of Ohio that never played a game last year, 1:04:23.040 --> 1:04:24.480 and I think he could have towards the end of 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:28.479 the year. Oh A J. Green taking fire and second 1:04:29.040 --> 1:04:32.200 Antonio Brown could have played at the end of the year. 1:04:32.200 --> 1:04:35.920 I think they they they advertised that from October on. Now, 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:37.160 you know, I don't know what was going on with 1:04:37.160 --> 1:04:39.400 his body, but Odell Beckham play. I'm not getting on 1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:42.480 him for playing through injury, but I also think a 1:04:42.480 --> 1:04:44.880 lot of at some point you have to judge what's 1:04:44.880 --> 1:04:48.040 out on the field. And he also moved really well 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:50.360 a lot of the time, so that part of it 1:04:50.400 --> 1:04:52.440 was confusing to me that when I was seeing him 1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:56.120 dust people um and and the contestant catch that. You know, 1:04:56.160 --> 1:04:59.600 it's just I just I think I'd like to think 1:04:59.640 --> 1:05:01.680 that we have not seeing the best of Oldell Beckham, 1:05:01.760 --> 1:05:03.680 or at least that that will see the best of 1:05:03.720 --> 1:05:06.480 Odo Beckham again and and this is this is the 1:05:06.560 --> 1:05:08.520 prime year to do it. That's all. The reason he's 1:05:08.520 --> 1:05:10.360 not on the Giants anymore is because he drove them 1:05:10.360 --> 1:05:14.520 crazy right right right, which is not done in Cleveland. 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:17.880 But you need you need to see him crazy in 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:20.880 terms of you know, whether he can be ever be 1:05:21.000 --> 1:05:22.960 that guy again that he was earlier in his career. 1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:26.200 He's certainly got to get by. I listen, Mark, you 1:05:26.200 --> 1:05:28.440 you always think that I'm coming after the Browns. I 1:05:28.440 --> 1:05:33.120 think he can certainly still be that guy. And if 1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:35.560 Baker can clean things up, they're going to be a 1:05:35.560 --> 1:05:39.160 monster offense potentially. Right There's a lot. I mean, Jervis 1:05:39.200 --> 1:05:42.320 Landry is a really fun player to watch. Nick Chubb 1:05:42.400 --> 1:05:45.080 is a fun player to watch. If you actually got 1:05:45.320 --> 1:05:47.240 Pete Beckham, and then you know you got in Joco 1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:49.680 and Hunter who are are good and fun too. But 1:05:50.160 --> 1:05:54.480 that's like a handful of pretty special and unique players 1:05:54.520 --> 1:05:55.920 on the on the same team. And I know we 1:05:56.000 --> 1:05:58.080 kind of talked about that last year and everything, but 1:05:58.200 --> 1:06:00.120 they're still there, and I think it could be be 1:06:00.200 --> 1:06:03.880 fun my last one really quick. The Bengals could be 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:05.360 a lot of fun to watch this year. We've been 1:06:05.440 --> 1:06:09.240 hitting on this on the show. But if you're Joe Burrow, 1:06:09.280 --> 1:06:14.080 who seems like Andrew Luck type guy where every five 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:16.120 or six years someone comes into the league and it 1:06:16.160 --> 1:06:18.360 just feels like it's a slam dunk. Matthew Stafford was 1:06:18.400 --> 1:06:20.480 another one, even though that took a couple of years 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:22.880 to get role because the injuries. If he hits the 1:06:22.920 --> 1:06:26.080 ground running with that offense, the Bengals could be like 1:06:26.080 --> 1:06:29.680 a playoff team potentially, and that would be I think 1:06:29.720 --> 1:06:31.520 people are gonna be shocked if the Bengals are in 1:06:31.560 --> 1:06:35.000 the mix in December because football will be playing in December, 1:06:35.000 --> 1:06:39.600 because nothing is wrong. I won't be because I think 1:06:39.640 --> 1:06:42.480 if you have everything is about the quarterback. Everybody knows that, Like, 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:46.120 if you get that guy in place, things could change 1:06:46.240 --> 1:06:49.080 very quickly. And uh, if you're Cincinnati fan, this is 1:06:49.080 --> 1:06:51.520 why West, especially in this time when he's he's down 1:06:51.560 --> 1:06:53.400 on the canvas and he's working to get his way 1:06:53.440 --> 1:06:55.080 back again, I feel like this is when he should 1:06:55.080 --> 1:06:56.600 fall in love with the Bengals again. In fact, I'm 1:06:56.600 --> 1:06:58.520 gonna I'm gonna text him after the show about this. 1:06:58.840 --> 1:07:02.000 I'm gonna say, you got the readied right now? The Bangals. 1:07:02.080 --> 1:07:03.880 This is the time I've been saying that this is 1:07:03.920 --> 1:07:06.160 the time to embrace the Bengals again, and this time 1:07:06.200 --> 1:07:09.320 of take care of you. Yeah. I don't know if 1:07:09.320 --> 1:07:11.960 he'd go full on, but he has kind of admitted, 1:07:12.120 --> 1:07:15.040 I think, on this show and and to us that 1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:18.000 you know this, this is the most excited he's been 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:20.640 about them in a long time. That said, does West 1:07:20.680 --> 1:07:24.360 strike you as someone when another man comes and says 1:07:24.440 --> 1:07:26.240 you will now be a fan of this team, that 1:07:26.280 --> 1:07:28.200 he's just gonna go do it. I don't. That's not 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:30.480 the West that I'm familiar with. So no, probably you 1:07:30.560 --> 1:07:32.919 know you're right about that. And you mentioned Antonio Brown. 1:07:33.000 --> 1:07:36.680 Greg he sent a flurry of tweets today. Let me 1:07:36.720 --> 1:07:38.840 just read them. I almost take this at the same 1:07:38.880 --> 1:07:41.440 grand assault and the importance in the news cycles as 1:07:41.480 --> 1:07:45.680 I treat Kanye West talking about Harriet Tubman during campaign 1:07:45.800 --> 1:07:48.960 rallies for president. But here are the tweets. Antonio Brown, 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:52.400 is it time to walk away? I've done everything in 1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:54.680 this game. That was a weird one. I don't know. 1:07:54.960 --> 1:07:57.919 That's tough one to put together. Next tweet. At this point, 1:07:57.960 --> 1:08:00.360 the risk is greater than the reward. Thank you everyone 1:08:00.400 --> 1:08:03.000 who who's been part of this journey. I sincerely thank 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:06.160 you for everything. Life goes on four and then another 1:08:06.160 --> 1:08:10.000 one I came. I saw I conquered. Mission complete, Call God, 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:13.960 Mission complete, Call God. So I guess he Antonio Brown 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:18.120 retired today. I get someone pointed out, I guess he's 1:08:18.120 --> 1:08:20.519 done this two other times, so that I didn't realize 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:24.080 that he's in September, right, He's retired a few other times, 1:08:24.080 --> 1:08:27.360 So I guess we'll We'll save the Santney Antonio Brown 1:08:27.840 --> 1:08:31.200 Hall of Fame discussion for another day. Can we fire 1:08:31.280 --> 1:08:33.720 Antonio Brown? By the way that people having those you're 1:08:33.800 --> 1:08:36.719 you guys are crazy the best receiver I've ever seen. 1:08:37.200 --> 1:08:38.880 I mean that, I think people are getting a little 1:08:38.920 --> 1:08:41.400 too crazy of like Antonio Brown was such a mess 1:08:41.400 --> 1:08:44.400 and how it's ended, that's like, you're crazy. He was 1:08:45.280 --> 1:08:49.519 something better at the same time, Why is that happening 1:08:49.640 --> 1:08:52.160 right now? Wait? Wait wait, wait, wait wait, I feel 1:08:52.160 --> 1:08:54.120 like we should fire the story into the sun until 1:08:55.040 --> 1:08:58.280 I agree. I think you're right. You're right, Ricky fired 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:10.599 that thing up all right before we go, let's spin 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:13.200 the wheel teams. Yeah, it's still happening. You thought it 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:16.719 was over. It ain't spinning the wheel teams wherever it lands. 1:09:17.160 --> 1:09:18.920 That is, the team will do a deep dive on 1:09:19.280 --> 1:09:23.080 for Wednesday's show, Ricky, the wheel has now eliminated what 1:09:23.240 --> 1:09:26.120 six or seven teams? It is time now to spin 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:39.160 it again. Right here we go Spring, Oh, look at 1:09:39.200 --> 1:09:50.240 that New York just agree your worst nightmare confirmed. Well, 1:09:50.280 --> 1:09:53.759 I'm just thinking back to the conversations before the show 1:09:54.000 --> 1:09:57.439 or Dan is you know, pushing the let's let's do 1:09:57.520 --> 1:10:00.400 this one more time? And then I even and see 1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:03.320 as we you know, our listeners can't see it, but 1:10:03.400 --> 1:10:05.439 you can check it out. I don't know if you 1:10:05.479 --> 1:10:08.040 put this on Instagram or not. The wheel suddenly like 1:10:08.240 --> 1:10:11.360 stops and like jerks back a little unnaturally right when 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:14.200 it gets to the Jets, and it just everything doesn't 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:16.599 feel totally above board here, that's all. And there were 1:10:16.600 --> 1:10:18.720 there were issues out of the gate when I you know, 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:22.200 casual character assassination from Greg nothing, No, I think it's 1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:24.479 I think Greg is on point. I mean when we 1:10:24.560 --> 1:10:28.559 when we correctly predicted the team the first time, people 1:10:28.600 --> 1:10:30.640 thought is this fixed? What are these guys up to? 1:10:30.760 --> 1:10:33.880 These clowns? Um those questions went away, and I think 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:37.320 that they've returned the last one, it's like, Oh, it 1:10:37.479 --> 1:10:42.960 just happens, America. You want to time I've done the 1:10:43.000 --> 1:10:46.400 exact same thing, Dan or any of us had no clue. 1:10:46.439 --> 1:10:53.559 What was okay? Okay? On Wednesday show, we will have 1:10:53.880 --> 1:10:56.200 someone that connected to the Jets beat that. We get 1:10:57.479 --> 1:11:00.880 a lot of good options, So tune in for that. 1:11:00.960 --> 1:11:04.120 Oh I'm excited. Oh Mark, I'm sorry. Listen, I know 1:11:04.320 --> 1:11:06.679 you wanted to be the Browns and thenn't. It went 1:11:06.720 --> 1:11:08.960 the old Zeuss way. What are you gonna do? It 1:11:08.960 --> 1:11:11.800 just sounds like a lot less heavy lifting for the 1:11:11.840 --> 1:11:13.760 rest of us because it's gonna be sort of a 1:11:13.840 --> 1:11:16.639 Dan and whoever he picks to come talk about the Jets, 1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:18.880 you know, one on one festival, so and a treat 1:11:18.960 --> 1:11:21.280 and a treat for the listeners to finally hear about 1:11:21.320 --> 1:11:29.320 this team, right, this scrappy little unmentioned entity. Alright, Uh 1:11:29.400 --> 1:11:37.640 well what was that? Huh? Who are you? Where do 1:11:37.760 --> 1:11:43.280 you come from? Bill? Are you listening to me? What 1:11:43.439 --> 1:11:48.200 do you want to do with your life? Alright? I 1:11:48.240 --> 1:11:50.599 can't do too many more of these shows. I gotta 1:11:50.600 --> 1:11:53.519 get out of here. O'Brien is out of control. That's 1:11:53.640 --> 1:11:58.559 Texans coach in general Mager Bill O'Brien prove that it's 1:11:58.600 --> 1:12:03.519 not all right. Good show, guys, good to be back. 1:12:06.640 --> 1:12:13.320 Put the music, okay does Danny had to signing off 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:18.759 for Quiet Storm the old boss Rick Hollywood from her apartment, 1:12:20.680 --> 1:12:30.280 Oh yeah, everything's fine. Was that it took me until 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:32.960 just as you were wrapping up to realize where that 1:12:33.000 --> 1:12:38.120 guy was from. I couldn't waiting for someone. You couldn't. 1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:40.320 It couldn't. I couldn't place it. And then right at 1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:42.120 the end I did. And then it was too late 1:12:42.160 --> 1:12:44.840 to make a little play on words from the We're 1:12:44.840 --> 1:12:49.599 not Gonna Take It video right twisted sister, I said, 1:12:49.600 --> 1:12:51.519 and know, and we played he played, We're not gonna 1:12:51.560 --> 1:12:55.439 take it at a talent show, once you know, you 1:12:55.560 --> 1:12:57.519 leave all this stuff on the on the floor. I'd 1:12:57.520 --> 1:13:05.200 love to hear that it's all going in good. It 1:13:05.240 --> 1:13:08.519 was great. We it was it were you Snyder, Yeah, 1:13:08.560 --> 1:13:11.040 Me and one other guy saying, well that was different 1:13:11.040 --> 1:13:13.800 than Delaware. I think we call ourselves for that one performance. 1:13:14.160 --> 1:13:19.800 The power to a posse what Greig