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Speaker 2: From the outside, it was like Future from the South.

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Speaker 2: Inspect the Future had a level of street that Drake

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Speaker 2: ones you heard twenty one Savage going on Like knowing

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Speaker 1: You know what, though, I honestly feel like that would

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Speaker 2: The trade off of this relationship lives in this record.

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Speaker 2: When it's up there, man, it's stuck there. Shut up. Height.

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Speaker 1: And I'm playing a playlist and yours come on and

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Speaker 1: If I came here to listen to Drake and they

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Speaker 2: It's like none of us know where the apple is.

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Speaker 2: That's some good game. When when you hear Kanye says

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Speaker 1: So I think we just haven't had nothing that broke

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Speaker 2: Way bigger, but.

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Speaker 1: The machine is propelling them into stars through the way

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Speaker 2: And Everything's what is talking about with Drake, Right, That's

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Speaker 2: He's talking about that package that's gonna make it easier

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Speaker 1: So if you're only going to give that package to

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Speaker 4: To my popping.

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Speaker 1: You feel me like there's just levels that has to

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Speaker 1: you're just not gonna get that. And it's like you

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Speaker 1: the way take care of me. That's my pop right.

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Speaker 2: And then also here's some money maker. You open up

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Speaker 2: the premium package, they'll shut the store down. You're spending

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Speaker 1: Please, when you start making that paper, it's like we

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Speaker 1: that on. You don't just get that when you walk

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Speaker 2: You feel me like you Is it fair to say, though,

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Speaker 2: whatever package that Kanye is talking about, that he deserved it.

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Speaker 2: If Drake, if there is a package that his.

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Speaker 1: Capabilities market, Kanye gets the package in his own way.

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Speaker 4: He just has to pay for his because it's independent.

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Speaker 4: Drake doesn't have to pay for his.

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Speaker 1: When you came in, I said, you either pay your

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Speaker 2: That's one of the hardest quotes I ever heard.

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Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. Kanye has the package. We

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Speaker 1: see everything that can do. He makes sure they seen this.

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Speaker 1: He may show the publicists on top. He controlled marketing,

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Speaker 1: he's he's recreating it. So it's like the difference is though, yeain,

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Speaker 1: you got to spend your own money because the don't

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Speaker 1: with the revolution. You get defunded. You gotta figure it

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Speaker 1: out and you gotta go get it still if that's

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Speaker 2: Are, Yes, and he did it with this new one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what the next move is,

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Speaker 2: but the goal number one. Independent is incredible. Incredible at

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Speaker 2: any level, at any level because it's their systems.

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Speaker 1: So when you could break them off to work in

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Speaker 1: where he should be. He should be proud. He takes

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: But this is really a moment for him to be

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Speaker 1: make some of the greatest music we ever heard, because

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Speaker 1: it's hard to make that music that you really need

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Speaker 1: you like these it's just hard to really make them

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know, like when you get free, you go.

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Speaker 1: Man, when you get liberated, the music you make when

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Speaker 1: you liberated man create change.

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Speaker 2: Is gonna come. Yes. Yes. What is your take on

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Speaker 2: Kendrick and Drake. I love them both dearly competitively. I'm

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Speaker 2: saying like, I think it's healthy conversation. I think both

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Speaker 2: That's not not disrespectful conversation, but just what that looks like,

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Speaker 2: because it looks like it's about to form some sort of.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I feel like hip

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Speaker 1: gonna puts.

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Speaker 2: That fate up because he liked.

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Speaker 1: The rat because he like and that's what hip hop is,

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Speaker 1: Nigga rat, Nigga let me rat.

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Speaker 2: But he disappears a lot. Does that that plays against him?

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Speaker 2: Them do? That's the first thing they're gonna say, even

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Speaker 2: though he's great, he's you know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Though he's not disappearing, he's a human who happens to

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Speaker 2: Like we be really.

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Speaker 1: Put in this crazy level on you, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: then when I'm ready to share something, I can share something.

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Speaker 1: I share a lot because I happen to have something

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Speaker 1: to share. If I don't have nothing to share, you

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Speaker 2: They convinced me Kendrick ain't got nothing to share.

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Speaker 1: He's way too, But that's based on our perception. Like

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Speaker 1: feel is worth sharing. Now what you feel is worth sharing.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I write songs and I'll play it and one

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Speaker 1: of them is like that's need to go. But I

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Speaker 1: don't feel that way, So I gotta do it because

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Speaker 1: that's in his discretion.

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Speaker 2: He a human who makes music. When you step into

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Speaker 2: the competitive field, you gotta go. If they come back,

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Speaker 2: and so now and I think if they come back,

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Speaker 2: he gonna go. You know how beautiful it would be

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Speaker 2: to see just go back.

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Speaker 1: And forth and it's like, it don't got to get

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Speaker 1: disrespectful and hey, I kill your kid.

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Speaker 2: It ain't got to be none of that. Kendrick. Shit

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Speaker 2: was very hip hop rap, right rap.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to hear no sermons, none of that

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Speaker 1: sh rap. Have fun, go in the boot, smile and

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Speaker 1: eat this.

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Speaker 2: What about the team up? Though it's kind of felt

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Speaker 2: like it kind of felt like a gang in happening,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Metro future Kendrick. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a funny.

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Speaker 1: Earlier I had seen some line and I was like,

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Speaker 1: because they've been like taking clips to Drake, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Drake talking about this in my in my head, I

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Speaker 1: was just like, I wonder if all these working together

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Speaker 1: like when you really be in it sometimes, like if

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Speaker 1: you hear and see me and Mike planning the way

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Speaker 1: we played from the outside.

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Speaker 4: Your perception is keute and we could be with you.

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Speaker 2: You feel me, But I just feel like, you know what,

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00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: But I feel like none of it is as deep

439
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 2: as we making it. I know that this ain't uh

440
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 2: that this ain't a joke, but it ain't serious. Of course,

441
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: says the public is making it. But competitively, I think

442
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: it's gonna get interesting.

443
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: I hope it does, because it's like, bro, just need

444
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: good rap like this, Moments like this that could stay

445
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 1: rap and just make good rap. It's what make great

446
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: rappers to come. If we don't have moments like, we're

447
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: losing all the culture. We don't get the same movies

448
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: no more, we don't got hip hop, no more dancing

449
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: in the video. It's like we're losing all the culture.

450
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: Please preserve the culture. Like if it ain't that deep

451
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: rap right love to dude and it's like everything no warring,

452
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 1: no response.

453
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 2: But I feel like at this response and this was like,

454
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: you know, do we respond quickly? Though? I ready to respond.

455
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: I remember when was happening with Palestine. My lawyer hit

456
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: me and he was like, man, you're gonna say something,

457
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: And I told him, I say something when I got

458
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: something to say, and I think you don't. I don't

459
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: think you ever have to rush into anything. But I

460
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: think if you were find all the other boys, this

461
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: is something it's like, we gona respond here because you

462
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: responded to the ladies, right, you know, we right?

463
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: And I think will because he liked that, yep. But

464
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: I think future rattling. I think the future mixing is

465
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: what's gonna. It's gonna, it's gonna add that. It's going

466
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: at the hot I don't know the depth of what will.

467
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it is just creatively, they've worked together, right,

468
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: they've had a chemistry. I think what was interesting is

469
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: that what's being said is that that the collab projects

470
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: caused some sort of issue. We don't know if that's true.

471
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: Of course that's allege, but I could see future saying, Yo,

472
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: I just sold my catalog, right, I'm building a new catalog.

473
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: You have an opening the door, a collab project. I've

474
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: been helping you, you know, kind of bridge that gap

475
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: with the streets and the trap with your music. He

476
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: just he might have felt like he wanted a kickback

477
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: in that moment. You know.

478
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: I think that's entitlement you do, especially after all the

479
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: nigga already gave too. Like I feel like Future in

480
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: Drake's situation was a fair exchange from the outside.

481
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: It was like from himself. Why not because Future was struggling. Well,

482
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 2: I can't say that he had Wayne, because my thing

483
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: is like Future gave Drake.

484
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: Future gave Drake like a lot of rep incredibility and

485
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: like just being within. But Drake also gave him a

486
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: ton too, like Future propelled.

487
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: If you gave him something the label can't give. Drake

488
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 2: couldn't get what Future gave him from the label, but

489
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: but Future could get.

490
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: I don't believe in that. That's not real.

491
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: Like Drake, Drake can give you what the label can't

492
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: give you. You can't get from the label. With Drake couldn't

493
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: give you when he give it to you. You remember

494
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: like black Boy JB.

495
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Future black Boy JB. See when we

496
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: talk about in the studio, were talking about we talking

497
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 2: about that package. You know, Drake had a stimulus that

498
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: when you do a collab project with you, you get

499
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: the stimulus. Lucis Grain package wrapped that around you, right,

500
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. After I done sold my

501
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: catalog with all them songs that we did. Do you

502
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: know we did that? That was cool. I respect you

503
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: for that. And of course we just haven't held the

504
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: conversation because we don't know whatever the case is. But

505
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: I could see where it's like, damn.

506
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just as a human from the southern.

507
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: Perspective, Future had a level of street that Drake couldn't

508
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: penetrate without Future. We don't care about the number ones.

509
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: You heard twenty one Savage going like knowing his participation.

510
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: Twenty one Savage went on DJ Academics and said while

511
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: he was on tour with Drake, said that may not

512
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: have been before the tour, said that Drake had he

513
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: from Atlanta, grew up in Atlanta streets. From UK, but

514
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: grew up in Atlanta streets. Said that nobody dying that

515
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: listens to Drake. Yeah, they grab a hold the future.

516
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: But the thing is like, that's one area in the world.

517
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's what Russ had to explain to me

518
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: because I had to say I was telling him like

519
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: the same and he like, bro, you stay in one

520
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: little blip.

521
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: In the world.

522
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: The entire world knew who Drake was.

523
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, people in this one area that I didn't

524
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: win them, but it was a different exposure. I think

525
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Drake would still be where Drake is without Future, but

526
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: Future's career wouldn't be where it is without Dre.

527
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: You do remember Future Road drunk in love and you

528
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: know Future nigga. Future is a bad man. But here's

529
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: here's the thing. He is on the cage up. I

530
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: had to say that too, because he drops a lot.

531
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: But if Future want to sit hit for hit, Future

532
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: is a bad man. Yeah. And but here's the thing

533
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: what I'm saying about the street thing or not the

534
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: street the culture cachet that that Future gave Drake because

535
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: he was two seconds away from that shit becoming corny.

536
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: Drake was two seconds away from you know.

537
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: You know what though, I honestly feel like that would

538
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: have been okay, because it kind of feel like Future

539
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: might have turned them out because we start getting gangs

540
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: to j like it just started becoming a different human

541
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: than we was experiencing.

542
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: You feel me? So I don't.

543
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what the effects was, honestly, like that's

544
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: that's not a bad thing, Like you don't know what

545
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: that looked like because we see a different Drake.

546
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: But the renaults of it kept him on his run.

547
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: From what the results we see.

548
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: And that's the thing where it's like you can never

549
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: really debate the outside because this is what happened, and

550
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: that's really the only finite possibility.

551
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: So now dealing with what happened is saying a what

552
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 2: happened was, and this was after they had already been

553
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: through something because future was rising with the Tony Montana song.

554
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: Drake jumped on it and then wouldn't do the video,

555
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: So they kind of fell out early in his career

556
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: and made up, you see what I'm saying. So the

557
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: relationship was already probably feeling a little you know how

558
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: we feel when it's like, damn, he ain't even want

559
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: to do the video. Bro, Damn, you know what I'm saying.

560
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: You jumped on the song because he gave you that South.

561
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: Trust me, these dudes are that high statue jay Z.

562
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: Don't come jump on your song for nothing. He understands

563
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: the analytics, He understands a lot behind what that move

564
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: just done, not only for you but also for him.

565
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: So I'm saying that Drake was so close to that

566
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: fuck that nigger that you claim you and these dope records,

567
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: but he was living in that misery spot got with

568
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: him and got that.

569
00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: Culture can just during that time. It's like, I don't

570
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: think dra was getting no smaller. He was already doing arenas.

571
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: It sure wasn't you feel like these are two these

572
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: are two different careers that were and that's not knock confused,

573
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: like that Nigga built his ship. He did his ship,

574
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: but they were at different levels with different inmphasis.

575
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: It was just a different trade off, you feel.

576
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: It's even Kendrick, like Drake took Kendrick on tour, they

577
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: were at different level. That's not to say that one

578
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the other, but it's just it's a different level.

579
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: So that trade off, like we said, we don't we

580
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: don't know it, but I do know.

581
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: I do know that in the South, that that that

582
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: that he was very close to them trying to make

583
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: it like almost corny.

584
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: But the And that's the thing, like Niggas just wasn't

585
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: playing him in the South because he wasn't making those

586
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: songs yet, Like to win a region, you have to

587
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: make music that aligns.

588
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 2: And that's the region. Steal my sauce. If I'm future,

589
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: that's when you come wrap your arm around me.

590
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: I think I think Drake is strategic and getting around niggas.

591
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 2: So that's what that's why you can feel played when

592
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: it's like, Yo, I just self sold my Catalan and

593
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: now I'm trying to get this album. But he might

594
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: be saying I'm building a young homel, but for me,

595
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: it's like there's a lot happening in this thing, you

596
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But it's money on the table

597
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: as well. This ain't just all about feelings this business.

598
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: In my opinion, that's behind the scenes that's kind of

599
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: fueling some of this. It's like, yo, man, you know,

600
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: some of these guys are strategic with their partnerships when

601
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: they do them, when they won't do them, when they

602
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: fall back, because the fall back in the rap game

603
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: is treacherous. By the fallback game, nigga, quit ask you

604
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean. That's what y'all rappers gotta deal

605
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: with that fake love.

606
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: And it's also because like, no one's a rapper, everyone's

607
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: a human.

608
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: I like that you keep bringing it back to me.

609
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: I gotta keep reminding you because sometimes we let the

610
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: title effect they're human. It's niggas like that in the world,

611
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: like that them niggas before rap.

612
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: When you was a high school.

613
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: You have a nigga who they start walking this way

614
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: when you start walking this way, because you feel.

615
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: Me like that that's how it is, brother.

616
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: They humans, the nigga just happen to rap and you

617
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: you can't have no expectations or no entitlement for no

618
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: man outside of yourself, because that's just what it is.

619
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: Once you see a nigga moving opposite of how you move,

620
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: you just gotta separate, that's all you. And I feel

621
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: like that's what they did simply, you know, like it

622
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: wasn't even messy to where like all of us seeing it.

623
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: If it did happen, I don't even know, you know,

624
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: if anything.

625
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: Like you said, I think it's healthy for competition. I

626
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: think it's also could be a bit dangerous for the

627
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 2: South because I think through conflict you can lose your

628
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: grip on the culture because it, in my opinion is

629
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: I don't think so though.

630
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't think none of us is that invested in

631
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: it to that depth, like we just won't rap, like

632
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: we we just won't.

633
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: We just won't rap. Niggas ain't niggas.

634
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: It will be like oh this this, this, They still

635
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: listen to all them niggas and if they don't, they

636
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: never did.

637
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: Oh what I'm saying is the big doll. So what

638
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: happens is you by default in power with the other

639
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: coasts right the same way, like I say, through conflict,

640
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: you will see a fifty cent say well, I can't

641
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: sign nobody from up here. A ba that empower was

642
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: the South, a game that in power was the West. Right.

643
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: So when I look at what happens with the conflict,

644
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: when I'm speaking about is you may deal with a

645
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: situation where now Drake say, fuck, I gotta stay out

646
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: of LINEA with this next big feature or with this

647
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: package were talking about, you don't think and he come

648
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: out to the West. I don't know. I really feel

649
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 2: like all of that.

650
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: I feel like Drake's relationship with the South has been

651
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: really mutually beneficial because like even him hopping on Little

652
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: Baby shit early, like it exposed Little Baby to a

653
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: huge audience coming out the gate, like he was able

654
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: to go same with Future, it exposed Future to a

655
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: huge audience that wasn't rocking with him.

656
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: Yet you feel me like you that was.

657
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: A really even with him doing what twenty women, It's like, bro,

658
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: he really giving niggas loved and loved, and after niggas

659
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: give that, they really don't owe you no more.

660
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: Whether they did it for self certain or not, I

661
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: don't know if that trade off is is. I don't

662
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: know if the South gave Drake man the South gave

663
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: Drake so much. The South region feels like that. You think, so,

664
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: what is he naming after these people he had?

665
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's every region feels like that, Broe, every

666
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: region feel like that.

667
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: You think, so, I'm stylistically, I'm talking about in every

668
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: every y'all tell me what y'all gave.

669
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: When he made motto, we was like, Nigga stop playing

670
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: when he go do them a ams.

671
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: They like Nigga that South runs, bro, He's on the South.

672
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: Because that's where people showed them. You're gonna go where

673
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: the love at, Nigga. He's smart. That's how you're supposed

674
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: to play the game. If my ship popping now, I'm

675
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: finna go show up and show love. And I don't

676
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: even mean it's in genuine. That's where I'm at right

677
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: now in my life. I won't always be there in

678
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: my life.

679
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: Let's let's debate the little baby Drake thing, because I

680
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: think that's a good conversation. A Little Baby might be

681
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: the only other artist that has kind of been holding

682
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: his own. He's been on tour by hisself, did all

683
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: Arenas did great. I was with him a couple of times.

684
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: But Drake hasn't. I don't know, man, I don't. I

685
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: don't know if Drake has embraced Baby in a way.

686
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Nigga tell me, let's have a

687
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: cobble my my first experience to little Baby. What's through Drake?

688
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: Do you know what Baby done on that verse? Though

689
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: he smoked it damn verse. Yeah. But that's the thing.

690
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: It's like Steph Curry do his thing every time he

691
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: who it ain't always on TV. The nation don't always

692
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: get to see it. And let me get when you

693
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: get a nation a chance that Nigga was already doing that.

694
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: But you know when you when you get a nation

695
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: a chance to become a favorite. It's like if I

696
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: if I provide you with exposure from if your exposure

697
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: is a million, and I say, oh, I could put

698
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: you in front of a billion, that's something you can't

699
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: that's a priceless exposition.

700
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: Like Nigga, it's.

701
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: Just different It's like when I Rust brought me out

702
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: to do Greek theater, it's like thousands. I wasn't selling

703
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: that type of tickets them, nigga, I literally got exposed

704
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: to grow an audience one hundred times bigger in one day.

705
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: And then a nigga just so is this despite the

706
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: business behind these records. You don't give a fuck what

707
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: the business is. As long as you're being seen, you're

708
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: comfortable with saying the trade off.

709
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: It depends on if I know what the business is.

710
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So what I'm what I'm being what's being said

711
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: is that whatever song Drake owned, Drake owns.

712
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that business, right, So I think for Drake,

713
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do the deal. But I don't think it's

714
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: an unworthy deal because I feel like, if this nigga

715
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: do a song with me that's a hit, and he's like,

716
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: I want one hundred percent. But nigga, everybody who listened

717
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: to the record gonna be come to you. They're gonna

718
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: send you all, You're gonna do shows. And then I

719
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: got the opportunity to go make a hundred more records.

720
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: Under my own.

721
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 4: I'm willing to give one to get that you.

722
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: Know, and but then let's get back to the that's

723
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: an unfair trade Wow, one hundred of the record of

724
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: one record of one recorder the credit. Yeah, but but

725
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: you're saying that the trade off of this relationship lives

726
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: in this record.

727
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: That's unreal. Okay, whatever, because it's so far beyond the

728
00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: record Drake giving you a record, record, bro, It's so

729
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: much more than Drake giving you the record to me.

730
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: Like, I think this is a great conversation.

731
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: For I mean, I think, like I said, that level

732
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: of amplification brou and being in that like the reason

733
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: it got playlisted so high, and the reason the like

734
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: all that has to do with QC's work too.

735
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: But you just you don't think that there was a

736
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: time where Baby was playlisted almost in the same way

737
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 2: Drake was after Drake.

738
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: Nigga, Yeah, he was getting that after.

739
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: Drake, but still one and two in the doll No no, no, no, oh, okay,

740
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 2: you're saying.

741
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: After a song with Nigga, I used to drop songs right,

742
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: and I get playlisted.

743
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: If I do hit a, I'll get algorithm.

744
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: But if I get editorial right, I get playlist, but

745
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: it would be lower. Then I start working with niggas

746
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: who like in the bill, who got related who like,

747
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: Oh no, we fuck with them, niggas. Now you play

748
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: listed number number two and now that you know me

749
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: from that and it's like, oh, we fuck with you,

750
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: let me know about your net and now it's higher

751
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: like that shit open.

752
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: I think it's different door Baby, because I know. Do

753
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: you think a Drake feature sells tickets?

754
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 4: No, but I think a hit song sells tickets.

755
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: One hit song, fuck yeah, I'm talking about arena tickets.

756
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: Niggas ain't selling arena tickets all song. But that's what

757
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So that's why I'm trying to talk about

758
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: Baby being Drake. Right, we're dealing with a song from

759
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: Drake and Baby what two thousand and twenty a minute? Yeah,

760
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: nineteen and dude just sold some arenas. I don't know

761
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: if the Drake effect last step long. No, So playlisting

762
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: is still the same for Baby, it's no, but what

763
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: it does is like and it's not for Blockboy JB.

764
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: So you got to deal with both of these in

765
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: this Artify.

766
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: I signed you to my team, I put you on TV.

767
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: You still got to do everything else to win an

768
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: MVP trophy, to win a Hall of Fame.

769
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: I just exposed you to the ability for you to

770
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 4: go do that.

771
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: Now I don't that don't mean I do all the

772
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: wi He don't get to take credit for Baby's career,

773
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: but he what he did was opened that door for

774
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: him to go get it. You can't win an m

775
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: v P Trophy if you're not getting regarded in the

776
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: league a certain way. Drake's able to pass you the

777
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: ball and you instantly in the league. It be niggas

778
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: who like, damn this, they first record and you win

779
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: the league.

780
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: They they wanted them. Baby got a hundred Golden Platinum Records,

781
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: Drake a hundred after Drake. Listen, it can't be after

782
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: the Drake. It can't be a hundred Nigga Drake k

783
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: K Nigga. Listen to me. You think so, somebody google

784
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: that God responsible, But I know how power Bro Hell Nigga,

785
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: block Boy, Blockboy j B had a run. It's like,

786
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: that's still that's what you're saying that, But that's that's what.

787
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: THEA opens the door for you to go. What you

788
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: do with it is up to you. Baby ran that

789
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: ship and hustled himself and put them so Drake Drake

790
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 1: only come get that with niggas who is that nigga?

791
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: But if a nigga come fuck, if you that nigga

792
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: and a nigga who is that nigga to come fuck

793
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: with you and bring you up and start hanging you

794
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: around these niggas, you become that nigga times a hundred.

795
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: So now you can make a hundred times more than

796
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: you was making. That's what I'm saying. I wondered, But

797
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: his levels to that nigga, you feel me like Baby

798
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: be hanging with Michael Ruben and them niggas, Like who

799
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: who did you first see with all them niggas? Like

800
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: these are the same parties with them? They been hanging

801
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: with all them niggas, was it?

802
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't even know that.

803
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: That's that's deep. I ain't know that, But I know

804
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: I know that that that dude's selling arenas. And that's

805
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: that's ninety five percent of people with a Drake song

806
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: ain't selling arenas.

807
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 4: Because they don't do the work.

808
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: So every five percent I gotta give, I gotta give

809
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: them way more credit.

810
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 4: No, like Baby did all the work.

811
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: There's work you have to do after, But there is

812
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: an inception point to where that opens up that door,

813
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: like and that's what anybody like Breakfast club. Breakfast club

814
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: was one of my Drake moments that didn't make my career.

815
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: But when you came in, you was like, bro, your

816
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: breakfast clubs.

817
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: Right, that's the same. You're right, Drake. But it's just

818
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: maybe just one of them guys. It's just you know,

819
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: when when you deal with some of the other lord

820
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: to guys, you can really see as a fit. You

821
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Baby.

822
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: Did so much that you started you it started being

823
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: like it didn't even happen, and that's great. That means

824
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: you did your ship. Yes, But you can't you can't

825
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: never do what said. You can't never knock that this

826
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: happened because you are where you are.

827
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: That's like me, it ain't knocking it. It's just we're

828
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: speaking to the trade off. And so I'm wondering, like

829
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: for those things to be so popular and relevant that

830
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: the weld, why didn't he double back? You know what

831
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So some of those questions become and you

832
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 2: I I used to do like early like I'll do lives.

833
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: I met a bunch of double artists this and shit

834
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: then and I don't really double back like I'm I'm

835
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: on my I have a whole life too.

836
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this little nigga arena, see you talking about

837
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: niggas you left in the smoke them niggas you don't

838
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: know where they at now, I'm saying you and Symbol

839
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: you might have sold him early in the journey. Now

840
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: you see him this level in the journey, it's like, Yo,

841
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: you know it's that dude. That's the dude, that's my guy.

842
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: You know That's what I'm saying.

843
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 4: Ever owe one another not I don't have that.

844
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: But I think you've been let down a lot to

845
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: It's what what has you with that mindset of Yo,

846
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: we don't owe nobody nothing. We don't Is it because

847
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: people expecting from you? Exactly?

848
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: When you live in that role and you know that

849
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: it ain't as deep as a nigga making it because

850
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: you live it. It's like, oh, bro, you had the

851
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: wrong idea the whole time. You should have just came

852
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: to holler at me, but instead you went off with

853
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: your opinions of what was happening. And I would have

854
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: just told you this what's going on in my life?

855
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: And I'm just not.

856
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: There, and that's the man side of it. But that's

857
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: the man side of it. You possess and I possess,

858
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: and I think that's when I feel disrespected. It's when

859
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: those conversations ain't met with.

860
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: It's always a conversational way, that's the crazy thing. It's

861
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: always a conversational way.

862
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 2: So but you but you play the role of people

863
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: needing you for things and over contextualizing what the circumstances

864
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: surrounding your absence is.

865
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: You know, I just always resort back to like human.

866
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: That's not my mama, that's a human. That's not my daddy,

867
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: that's a human. That was a human way before I

868
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: even was even in a picture, niggas was humans and

869
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: doing their whole life. And then I entered the picture,

870
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: and now they got to figure out how to still

871
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: do that and navigate that that Nigga was a whole

872
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: human before all that, before I ever knew who little

873
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: Baby was, I was a human who was getting I

874
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: was signed to Jay Prince to cash me to young

875
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: and I got I sold to a point where I

876
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: could even come holler at you and help you get

877
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: to this.

878
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: It's no more nigga could give me yon.

879
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like bro like, every every nigga is already

880
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: in human form and moving and living a life.

881
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: Bro like as a nigga, care how you received. I'm

882
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: concerned with people that I care about or that I

883
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: may have used on long my journey. Seeing me as

884
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: a user.

885
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 4: I'm concerned with what I sind, never what was received.

886
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: I know what I sent, and if I sent it

887
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: with love and there was no malice and no tense,

888
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: and I know it was sent, you.

889
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 4: Might not always receive it how I sent it.

890
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: If you got an iPhone, I got an Android, and

891
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: you send me certain shit, I can't get it.

892
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: It don't come to me.

893
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: However you sent it, and I just got to know,

894
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: Oh no, I here, this is what I actually sent.

895
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: If you get to have that conversation. But you can't

896
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: be concerned about how you perceive.

897
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, especially by I think you not.

898
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: You can't be concerned how everybody perceives you. But people

899
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: that you've used along the way, people that helped you

900
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: along the way, your family, people you love. I think

901
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: that it is it's very important that they know that

902
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: I reciprocate those feelings, right. I don't think they should

903
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: feel alienated from.

904
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm into a point in my life where, yeah,

905
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: less consideration of what everyone else feels about me, and

906
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: more consideration of what I feel about myself and if

907
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm able to be okay and live with the life

908
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: I'm choosing because I'm the only nigga who gotta wake

909
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: up every day as me and handle all the business.

910
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: I gotta handle.

911
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: What you think really has no prominence in that, because

912
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I gotta wake up as me every day. When I

913
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: feel low, I gotta feel that, not you. When I

914
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: get I gotta feel that, not you. When I'm sick,

915
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: I gotta feel not you. So for me to take

916
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: that into consideration and for you to want me to

917
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: value it more than my own entitlement.

918
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: So, but what about the people who pull into you?

919
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: Does that is that? Do they feel disrespected by that?

920
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: I think all the people who love you understand you

921
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: only got to go back and forth with niggas who

922
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: don't really love you, and they were just using you

923
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: for something, and they like, damn, I'm now I'm not

924
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: getting what I wanted from you. I feel away the

925
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: niggas who love you.

926
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: Anything around.

927
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: If I need myself, I don't want to talk, that's

928
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: an easy conbo that's respected only a nigga who don't

929
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: love you got a problem.

930
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: With that, yes, and that's a fact. They got the

931
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: materior motives and you know your.

932
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: Man, because you can't get from me what you wanted

933
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: to get from me, that's a different conversation. Let's not

934
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: make it about all niggas ain't fucking or niggas ain't showing.

935
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Let's not do that. Let's make it about what it

936
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: truly is. But if niggas don't want to have the

937
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: real conversation with on what the feelings is, what we're talking.

938
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: About, Yes, that's that's supreme game. And I hate that

939
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: for our culture that we deal with that. But I

940
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: carry that, bro, and I need to unpack some of that, right.

941
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: I carry the fact that the people are of or

942
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: the people that I consider. It's like, yo, ain't I

943
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 2: ain't y'all. Y'all know, I ain't getting nothing from y'all.

944
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: I ain't use nobody. It's like something about that is

945
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: on me. And I don't know why. I think because

946
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: I've been.

947
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: Used because you're useful and like we gotta really it

948
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: takes a while to like used to alter the perspective

949
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: of us. It's like, no one uses anyone that's not useful.

950
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: It's great to be used. You get to determine your

951
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: level of usage, but it's great to be used. That

952
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: means you of used. If a nigga ain't using you,

953
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: you ain't useful. Why you even here?

954
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: You feel me?

955
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: So it's like you just need to determine your level

956
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: of usage. But people are going to use you when

957
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: you're useful. They supposed to.

958
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: What do you What got you into making so much content?

959
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: Content creation?

960
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: I was making a bunch of shit when the cameras

961
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: were off. I was doing a bunch of shit already,

962
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: So it was like, it's easy to turn this into

963
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: content right right. And from there it's like, okay, I'm

964
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: gonna do these lives. I start just finding things I enjoyed.

965
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: I what's never making content for someone else? Like I

966
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: love live sessions. I used to watch live setting and

967
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: I was like, nigga, I want to do these. I

968
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: start doing them and it's like, nigga.

969
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: I like it. I get to knock them out.

970
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: I get to have my fun and then I get

971
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: to share and then possibly change my life that's a

972
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: win win. You can't convince me to not make content.

973
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: I love that that live show thing. Man, What got that? What?

974
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: Number one? What keeps you comfortable enough, close enough to

975
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: the culture that you can do something like that? Is

976
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: it your messaging? Is it your heart? Is it your perspective?

977
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: What keeps you close enough?

978
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: I think it's that It's the authenticity. It's like all

979
00:49:54,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: those combined. Like I, I live and breathe it like

980
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: some of our past legends do. It's like bro My

981
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: when we not rapping, this is me rapping still like him.

982
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: It's just in me like I and I think that

983
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: that has just felt like we always connect to those spirits.

984
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: That's the only reason you like nigga. I'm finna pull

985
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: up to the crib. We ain't pulling up to no

986
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: nigga cribb.

987
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: You feel me?

988
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's just what it is. Everybody at

989
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: every level has found a way to resonate with me.

990
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: And I'm a young black nigga in Valleo and a

991
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 1: white kid from Chicago could be like nah, I fuck

992
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: with that, and you feel me like that. That level

993
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: of relevancy, I think just does it like people people

994
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: feel as common as me, Like it's funny I have

995
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: I've be having niggas messaging me crazy as shit. One

996
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 1: nigger said some shit and I was like, would you

997
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: message hold like this? And he could respond and said, nah,

998
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: but you my nigga, And it just showed me like

999
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 1: that different level.

1000
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 4: That's how connected a nigga feel.

1001
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: Do you do you feel? What do you say to

1002
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: people who may because someone like you who has been

1003
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 2: kind of non traditional in your approach but has also

1004
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: understood that there's a stickiness that comes along with content

1005
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: creation outside of rap musics, people don't understand that there's

1006
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: a there's some kind of component that this adds to

1007
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: the formula that you clearly understand. But there also could

1008
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: be people that take that away from the label perspective

1009
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 2: in your earlier days. What do you say to people

1010
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 2: who may have thought that you were overconfident, misunderstood the assignment,

1011
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: or what have you along your journey.

1012
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: I think that's a perspective outside of you that you

1013
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: just don't have to consider. Right Like people thought Steph

1014
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: Curry was too short, he wasn't strong enough, he wasn't

1015
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, Like everyone's going to have an opinion on

1016
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: the nigga on TV. Everyone in their living room gonna

1017
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: have an opinion facts other nigga on TV. Facts, they're

1018
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: not the nigga on TV.

1019
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 2: That's fight you, but that you know, Like I say,

1020
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: I think that you've been somebody that's put a lot

1021
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 2: of shit together, man, And I'm proud of what you've done.

1022
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 2: It's just a beautiful thing. Bro. I don't I don't

1023
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: know what I can say that to help you understand that,

1024
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: but people can, people can thank you for confident. I

1025
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: think you have to be confident, you know. I don't

1026
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 2: think you could get as far as you got lacking confidence, man.

1027
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: And you know, you know what's funny. Confidence stems from preparation.

1028
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: Like there's two forms of confidence. There's a confidence that's

1029
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: just like whimsy, whereas like, nigga, why are you? Why

1030
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: are you acting like this? You know, it's almost coginis.

1031
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: It's like you're confident, but it's like a blind.

1032
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: It's different.

1033
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: And then there's confidence that stems from oh, no, I've

1034
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: been hooping all day. If you get on this court

1035
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: right now, I'm a bust your ass.

1036
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm one of them. You feel me.

1037
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: It's like it became hard for me to not be

1038
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: confident through my journey because I kept doing all the work.

1039
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: So it's like, as I was getting better, it was

1040
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: just very easy to see the difference. It's like, ah,

1041
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: you feel me. It's hard to not be confident when

1042
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: that's just your natural state.

1043
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: We were talking about, and we'll close out here in

1044
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: a second. We were talking about, and I think it's

1045
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: a good conversation to have on air, you know for

1046
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: some of the people watching, about the dynamics of media

1047
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: and the rappers and the respect that has to be

1048
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: placed on narrative in this space. We talked about, you know,

1049
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: kind of how you see people some people in the

1050
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: content world, people like academics and Meek Meal, and how

1051
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: they kind of coexists, and how you'll see a tweet

1052
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 2: go up against two or three hours of content, how

1053
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: it's been broken down into YouTube clips, clips on Instagram

1054
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: and all these different socials. Let's just talk about that

1055
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: a little bit, just the that's the marriage between media

1056
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: and rappers. You want of the people that can handle this,

1057
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: this is easy for you. This is mental jiu jitsu though, right,

1058
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: this ain't nothing to play with.

1059
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: It, I said, Man, it's directly connected media is a

1060
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: necessary there's a reason when you go to a label

1061
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: that give you a publicist, you feel me It's like

1062
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: media is directly related. It's the news, you know.

1063
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 2: I had.

1064
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with a team over at Flighthouse

1065
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: and they was like, you have to make your own news.

1066
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 4: That's all we do. Like when we break artists, we

1067
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 4: make them news.

1068
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: We see the clip, we we we know where to

1069
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: put it to where you keep seeing a niggas. So

1070
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: it's like media is literally controlling your news and narrative.

1071
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: You could literally if you build your own media infrastructure.

1072
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 1: When shit go wrong and it everybody writing these stories

1073
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: negative about you, you could release your own stories through

1074
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: platforms and see that. So both sides of the narrative

1075
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: is in there, and they know that that's the only

1076
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: reason you have a publicist in the media.

1077
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 2: That it's only how you can combat it.

1078
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: And that's how you really cultivate supporters, right, not followers,

1079
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: not listeners, to customers, and support not fans.

1080
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: Yes, supporters which which are cousins to customers. Come on,

1081
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: that's still counting, right, and that's still red the no

1082
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: this this no the box thing that you're red right,

1083
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: all right, cool, thank you. I'm just yeah, that's cool,

1084
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: that's cool. I'm just paranoid. I'd get parent. It's too

1085
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: good of a fucking coming. Say what what what? What? Damn?

1086
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: What the fuck we just said? What did you just say? Uh? WHOA?

1087
00:55:54,120 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have fucking just lost Yeah, control your me, Okay,

1088
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: yeah so so. But that's what we were talking about,

1089
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: is that you don't have any way to combat the

1090
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 2: narrative due to lack of infrastructure and really not fucking

1091
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 2: with black media. Man, you gotta mess with black media.

1092
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: You have to respect the narrative. You don't send you

1093
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: just don't argue with the media, because again, it's gonna

1094
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: be an unfair advantage. That's gonna be four hours of

1095
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: content versus your tweet or your one podcast. Let's say

1096
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: you are save as a little Russell and you say,

1097
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: you know what he's saying that I'm going to do

1098
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 2: a podcast is set the record straight. Now, if it's

1099
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: powerful enough, it can live on and you have that

1100
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: ability to speak once about it and that to clarify that.

1101
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: But when you don't have that ability, you gotta be

1102
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,720
Speaker 2: present in the media to what again is title for title?

1103
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: It's video for video just contributed to the narrative being.

1104
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: That's the thing though, It's like when you I feel like,

1105
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: if you really want to get into it, like when

1106
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: when them things is happening and you got all these

1107
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: narratives against you, the easiest thing to do is get

1108
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: behind them, like yourself and your residents, and sit with

1109
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: your home, your best friend, and if you want to

1110
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: talk about it, you clear it and discuss everything, and

1111
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: then you get the clips that's them, and you seed it.

1112
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: You can pay the same amount of money and send

1113
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: it to the Seed network and there may show everybody

1114
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: see it.

1115
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: Facts is different. Certain magic only happens in certain arenas

1116
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: like this here, this can't happen. This conversation, the dynamics

1117
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: and things like in breakfast club with you that only

1118
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: happens there. So sometimes you got to crawl out of

1119
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: that cubby hole to clarify things. Yeah, you know what

1120
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Because you'll sit next to someone and sees

1121
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: your perspective anyway, I mean your huddle, you know what

1122
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Sometimes you gotta come out and sit with

1123
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: somebody else to kind of yo.

1124
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's like, also I'm a human and I

1125
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: understand when shit happening in my life, I don't really

1126
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: want to be around niggas, let alone the nigga asking

1127
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: me questions about the ship that's they're taking that they're

1128
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: taking the business, right, At some point I got to

1129
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: clarify this.

1130
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 2: They're taking the business out there, you know what I'm saying?

1131
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: Who might have laid about my feelings? They're taking this

1132
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: what were done, built for ten years? Right? Who am

1133
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: I to go fall victim of my feelings and say,

1134
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: man I, man I, Daddy want to be around me?

1135
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't feel good. No, they saying some lives about

1136
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 2: the business. Just clarified over you.

1137
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: Know, and so you know, and you know, my thing is,

1138
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 1: I think it only requires clarification if it affects the

1139
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: business facts. And then I think it only requires clarification

1140
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: if it affects the business and you're not okay with that.

1141
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 4: If it affects the business and you're okay with it.

1142
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: Okay, let it affect the business, that's cool. Some people

1143
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: ain't okay with it. If you're not okay with it,

1144
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: then that yeah, it's time to try to do something

1145
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: about that. But at some point, you gotta know you

1146
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 2: gotta know who's the captain and who's the cargo. When

1147
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: you get in that arena, you clearly gonna be the

1148
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: cargo because you ain't having enough time if you really

1149
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: doing it, Like if you fake doing it, you can

1150
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 2: get in there and squabble with the right, But if

1151
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 2: you really running a business like Larussell, you ain't got

1152
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: time to squabble with the media. You gotta know how

1153
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 2: to see the clip. You gotta know that even exists.

1154
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: You don't get that working with the label, if you

1155
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: signed to the label. You don't know how they get that.

1156
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,919
Speaker 2: The shave Room all at the same time. You think

1157
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: it's some kind of hell of a coincidence. You don't

1158
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: know why Neighborhood Talks, Shave Room say all these different

1159
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: blogs post it at the same time. You don't got

1160
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: no clue. Why on god you just a rapper. They

1161
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 2: think I'm popping. So when I post something, it get

1162
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 2: posted by the blows. You don't know. But if you Larussell,

1163
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: you know now it's a seeding thing happening, getting the information,

1164
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I don't know, man,

1165
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: and I think some people live and die not knowing. Man. Yeah,

1166
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: you know not wanting to know either. Yeah right, yeah, man,

1167
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: but this has been a very very munchy there. We're

1168
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: gonna bust this one down.

1169
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a game, man, just commit commend to

1170
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: you for the niggas who don't know this. Nigga pulled up,

1171
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: set up all his own equipment, folk, cameras, nigga, everything, pulled.

1172
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: Up to the v to get it done. Yes, lord,

1173
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: like it's solo. Yeah, solo. We couldn't get him a team.

1174
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I need a team, but I respect

1175
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: the journey that much. I respect your journey, like for real,

1176
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 2: for real, Like what you built is monumental. Come on

1177
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: and you continue to do that, man, and I'm sure

1178
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: we'll sit down again. This ain't the last yeah right, Yeah,

1179
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: it's a fast time man. So it's up there partcase.

1180
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: Y'all take that game and do something with it. You

1181
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 2: heard there was a whole lot in that one. Yeah man,

1182
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: that's what bro. We need a picture. You gotta a picture,

1183
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: about to take a couple of flicks? Stop now you

1184
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 2: can keep it rolling. Don stop and wanting to take

1185
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: the picture. I appreciate you, though, brother, No.

1186
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: This was good and you got you got some uh

1187
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: like the Spotify ship we've been we were figuring out

1188
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: how to get all that out, and this was the

1189
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: best way. It was just naturally flowing right, because people

1190
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: need to hear a lot of them, Gym. Sometimes we

1191
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: just don't hear a human perspective, like when you live

1192
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: in your life with just an academic perspective.

1193
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 2: The water, you know, it's shaking a lot right.

1194
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 5: Now.

1195
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good common say I'm telling

1196
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: to feed the culture. Yeah,