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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty two, Episode

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Speaker 1: two of Dear Daily Sight Guys, the podcast where we

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Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's share consciousness using the headlines,

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Speaker 1: box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on gigs and

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Speaker 1: social meats. It's Tuesday, December eighteen, two thousand eight. Team

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Speaker 1: and names Jack O'Brien, a ka all the Jack O'Brien

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Speaker 1: and the Miles of Gray listen to a pod with

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Speaker 1: Anna hose Ny a second rate at best. Alright, that

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Speaker 1: is courtesee, you chat a blakey and I'm thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined as always buy my co host Mr Miles Great.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard this second rated podcast with the hartdest

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Speaker 1: sag Get your e D tips from a most grave

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Speaker 1: and listen Cuba damn today being in the studio. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much to Will Kendrick for that one. You

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Speaker 1: even retweeted it because you're like, just went unseen. I

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Speaker 1: feel like it must see the light and I did

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Speaker 1: think he knew it was Yes, Hey, speaking of fire,

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Speaker 1: what's really you wanted? In our third seat? By one

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Speaker 1: of the faces on Mountain, He is the hilarious media. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's a nice watch you got on. Sorry, just taken

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Speaker 1: out of completely go to visual suddenly, that's fine. I'm

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Speaker 1: proud of I'm loving it. It took a while. The

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Speaker 1: fun the right one? Okay, well it is the right one.

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Speaker 1: It does it suits you? Well, it's not even right.

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Speaker 1: The time isn't right. It doesn't work. I haven't you

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Speaker 1: know how you could read the instruction manual when you

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Speaker 1: get something like that. Yeah, but then you're like, I'm

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Speaker 1: a figure, not just tell him it's right. I always

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Speaker 1: Like when I'm about to turn it back in, I'm like, oh, shoot,

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Speaker 1: I could have done that. I missed out on a

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Speaker 1: lot of stuffs. That button. You're right, you can't open

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Speaker 1: the trunk and realize that, Yeah, I didn't. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a fake trunk. Billy Wayne, We're going to

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Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. We are going to talk about the thing

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Speaker 1: that is on everybody's mind. The Washington Post article proclaiming

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Speaker 1: a hot dog to technically be a taco, which sounds

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Speaker 1: stupider than it actually is. Somebody worked out a sort

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Speaker 1: of I think it's appropriately stupid. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's stupider than it is. Somebody worked out a

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Speaker 1: comprehensive like cube rule of food for identifying dishes based

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Speaker 1: on starch locations, and it actually makes sense. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about it's an argument for overpopulation. But there there

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Speaker 1: we go. We're gonna talk about Trump ending up taking

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Speaker 1: his sister to prom. Yeah, that's what I call what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about. I was just read. I read these

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Speaker 1: headlines as I see them for the first time, Julian Okay,

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, yeah, sorry, it needs to be

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Speaker 1: delivered from And I also figured, like, I was like,

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Speaker 1: it feels like there's there's more important things to talk

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Speaker 1: about that he's doing that right, So yeah, mcmuldy, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to be his chief of staff at least

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Speaker 1: acting chief of staff for the time being. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about yet another tour to force by Rudy Giuliani

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Speaker 1: on the morning shows yesterday. We're gonna talk about Russia,

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Speaker 1: social media, fucory and who they were aiming at, and

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Speaker 1: yet more evidence that CBS is a fucking disaster when

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Speaker 1: it comes to sexual politics, all that and more. But first,

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Speaker 1: Billy Wayne, what is something from your search history that's

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Speaker 1: revealing about who you are? I like, this week I

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Speaker 1: was looking up Invader. You know, they've got the French

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Speaker 1: artist and there does a space Invader street art. Yes,

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Speaker 1: his prints what they're worth because he has a what

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Speaker 1: is it an exhibit downtown. I think it's called inside

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Speaker 1: the Cube or something like that. That mocha. It's no,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just in that downtown gallery area. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just like out of gallery. Yeah, okay. I took my

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Speaker 1: you're like, and then everyone's wearing Yeezy's and has Alexas,

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Speaker 1: but they're also wearing sweatpants. But I was like, what

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Speaker 1: is There's something cool? So you just get in line? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I said, and I got in line, and then

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Speaker 1: we figured out that his prints. They were releasing his prints,

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Speaker 1: so he only releases a hundred and then we stood

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Speaker 1: it's six it we're just gonna get the museum. Wait,

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Speaker 1: how do you print one of his work because it's

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Speaker 1: like usually tiles. Yeah, he just yeah, well he prints

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Speaker 1: but it's a but I'm saying, and the way he

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Speaker 1: That's really cool. It's awesome. They just extended it through

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Speaker 1: December thirties. I'm not getting paid to say any of this.

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Speaker 1: And it was cool because I liked him and I

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Speaker 1: It's really fun. And then so I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't have fift dollars two gamble on this right because

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like real cool, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: are like love this, dude. No, they're they're high beast.

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Speaker 1: They're there for the reason. I realized after I walked

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Speaker 1: oh no, right, can I give blood you until you

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Speaker 1: guys are sending like you don't want to go to college? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It was that. Yeah, it was like, yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: it was a good deal. You're gonna actually make day

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Speaker 1: it was they were selling for thirty five Damn that

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Speaker 1: was the next day. That sucks. Yeah, sorry to hear that. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: just follow the goons and sweatparts. Yeah. So I've been

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Speaker 1: all over the internet like how did you guys? But

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Speaker 1: it's like a high beast. Yeah. I mean the resell

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Speaker 1: just go, hey, what's his reselling that? Because that's the

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Speaker 1: whole reason I didn't know that. I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: I was like, just speak cool something like those guys

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Speaker 1: this whole conversation went by Invader does mosaic like sort

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Speaker 1: was like, what streets like Vermont. I was like, was

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Speaker 1: So you seem like a cool dad this weekend. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like you try to be like fine stuff that

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Speaker 1: we both like that we can share because some stuff

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Speaker 1: it together, right. But he's like talking about what you

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Speaker 1: guys did at school today. That's pretty cool. That's something

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Speaker 1: that was probably. Yeah, that's congratulations. Yeah, and said I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: could get a discount after that, I should have made him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's another one of these banks he types where like

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Speaker 1: his face is a mystery, but they apparent according to Google,

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Speaker 1: they know he was born in nineteen sixty nine. That's

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Speaker 1: but you know that, but you don't know who he is, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It says born ninety nine. But

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Speaker 1: and then they're always like he smells like cigarettes. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: he's French, So he's French, So what's the question? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we know he's born in nineteen six and nine

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Speaker 1: be very young. That's that's why that that detail jumped

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Speaker 1: construction company. That's what my parents think. I do. What's

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Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? H community? Hey, I love

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Speaker 1: fine are also right. Yes. Yeah, no, but you mean

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Speaker 1: community in the general sense, yes, like just getting in

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Speaker 1: a whole rant on that in the third section. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's something people don't realize. Yeah, it's there's just spit.

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Speaker 1: There's a community there that is accepted, like this is

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Speaker 1: go away. But we all know each other. It's a

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Speaker 1: small town. Uh. I like that that those kind of places. Uh.

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Speaker 1: did notice. I did a show in San Jose, which

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Speaker 1: bull on its side, yeah, bread ball. Yeah. So these

423
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: are just very you know. I like that they went

424
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: with for number one, the most important one, the one

425
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: that they first had to start out with. They went

426
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: with toast instead of pizza. Yeah. I think just trying

427
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: to keep the pizza is just toast. Yeah, it's a

428
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: sub category. It's a sub It's part of the toast kingdom, right,

429
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: or an open face sandwich you could call it. But

430
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: toast is like a very specific well yeah, a lot

431
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: of these descriptions, I'm like, does it have to be?

432
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: I guess the sushi is only to describe that, or

433
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: bread bull or calcium. I know. That's my favorite part

434
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: is when he's like and somebody's like, what what's sushi

435
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 1: then and he's like, well, it's just sushi. Right, like

436
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: he kind of gets stubborn, Well that's a sushi exactly?

437
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: What a bread bull? What is it? What it fits encased?

438
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: And like, well, that's a cal zone. Yeah, but what

439
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: about this, Like that's chickens a kale zone. We'll get

440
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: out of my office. So sushi is not sushi. Sushi

441
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: rolls are sushi, but sushi that is just on a

442
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: piece of rice, like a taste would be toast. Yeah,

443
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: so sushi is toast and he lost. I can't. I

444
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: cannot yet toasts. I mean, but it's just because it's

445
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: an interesting way to visualize it. But yeah, a lot

446
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: of I guess I don't like that we're going to

447
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: reduce something that's so specific to be like, well that's toast, right, Yeah.

448
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't like that some people have to be like, well,

449
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: what's a hot dog? It's a fucking hot dog? Yeah,

450
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: like panini, yes, fried chicken is fried chicken. Yeah, this

451
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: is that's a sandwich right, Yes, that's a taco. Yes.

452
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: When we were just talking about how people need need

453
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: to need to be bored again, yes, so now they're like,

454
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: how do I know? But this is what we do

455
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: instead of boredom. See, there is like a bottomless bucket

456
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: of ship like this that we can just focus on

457
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: and think about. And this ums to be for drunk peoples.

458
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: This used to be drunk people, that bar being like

459
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: no hot jogs Chaco, right, except that conversation ended up

460
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: like that used to just die right there at the

461
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: bar and they wouldn't even remember they had it the

462
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: next day. But because somebody had a drunk conversation online,

463
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: that got preserved and then spread worldwide, and now everybody's

464
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: thinking about it, and that's what we're thinking about instead

465
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: of Hey, I wonder what that neighbors up to? Right?

466
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: Why did we never come out the front? I think

467
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: I think we're wired more than a lot of people

468
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: because of where we live. I still think, like I

469
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: go back to visit my family in East Tennessee and

470
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: they still know what they're people are doing. I also

471
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: think it's very generational. But I think I mean also

472
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: they I think in a small town Facebook or whatever,

473
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: that's how they're doing that, right, And they grew up

474
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: around each other a lot of the time, so they

475
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: know who's like I like, every time I go back.

476
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: I don't have Facebook, I have a fan page, but

477
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: I go back and do a show the Wednesday night

478
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving in my hometown. And I always like when

479
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: I'm promoting it, I get to catch up on Facebook

480
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: all my friends are doing and then it's all right, there,

481
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: that's they live. I mean, it's but they're not doing

482
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: anything bad. It's just like I know who dumped too

483
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And it's weird when I'm like, hey, yeah,

484
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: you're with so and so there. How do you even

485
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: know that? But that's that's a conversation that would have

486
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: taken place over beers before Facebook, and now it takes

487
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: place in a room by yourself, like in you know

488
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: when I exactly, So it is a lonelier experience. It's

489
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: funny because there were like lawsuits over the definition of

490
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: a burrito, right, So there was a Panera Bread that

491
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: tried to argue in a court in Massachusetts that a

492
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: burrito is a sandwich because a Cudoba, the Mexican restaurant,

493
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: opened up at the mall food court and they had

494
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: an agreement. They said, you're violating the shopping the food

495
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: court contract because he said we would the only sandwich

496
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: racket in town. And then they're out here being like

497
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: this is they're like, the barritos a sandwich, right, And

498
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: the judge was like, na, man, the burrito is not

499
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: a sandwich. And the U s d A Food Standards

500
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: and Labeling Policy book describes a burrito as a Mexican

501
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: sandwich like product. It's a Mexican cal zona. But that's

502
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: what this man is saying. He's like, no, this is

503
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: He's like, because this guy on Twitter, you can submit

504
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: things to him and be like, well, what's a gusher?

505
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: And he's like, that's a cal zone, right, But no

506
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: it's not because that's not starch. This is what again

507
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: that I'm not you know, I'm not question. You're like,

508
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: what's a blowjob feel like? And he's like, pass, what's sex?

509
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, sushi out of her mouth. Yeah,

510
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: it's a it's actually it's actually a bread bull. But

511
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: so it's just a yeah because he like it's funny.

512
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: Because the responses when I'm like, well, what's a britos

513
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: like that would be a topic of debate. It's created

514
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: with a single tortilla role by nature, it feels like

515
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: more of a four sided object. I would be willing

516
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: to consider it as a cow zone as well. And

517
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: he's still going into business thinking like okay, that's I mean,

518
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: that is some like mafia style business practices where you're like, yo,

519
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: no one else can do what I'm doing in this area.

520
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah right, and they're like, okay, but we're gonna

521
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: have burritos. No people can eat. Those corporations left to

522
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: their own devices without regulation immediately become the mob. It

523
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: seems like, well that's where they stole their business because

524
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: all the money goes to the top, right, And then yeah,

525
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: and you just shake people down, and you align yourself

526
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: with other goons to protect you from the other ones,

527
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: and you're so powerful no one can do anything. All right,

528
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: we have to get to famous mobster, the President of

529
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: the United States. Yeah, we will just mentioned really quickly

530
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: that famous cow Zone Factory KFC is selling a dera

531
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: flame log that smells like fried chickens. So that's something

532
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: to check that out. Yes, but yeah, so try would

533
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: be and I'm just sorry that would be a night marathion.

534
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Don't don't check that out? Yes, how about not just

535
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: look at it and then go okay, I would have

536
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: a stomachache the whole time. Like it reminds me it's

537
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: like a version of that Mitch Hedberg joke where he's like,

538
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: I just I want to make incense that smells like

539
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: cinnamon rolls to mess with my roommates. Yeah, they tell

540
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: you when you're like showing a house that you're about

541
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: to sell to make cinnamon rolls or cookies. So he

542
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: would actually have become a billionaire. He tried to sell

543
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: the log in there. But yeah, let's talk about the

544
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: mobster in chief. Let's that. I think that gives him

545
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: too much credit. I think he's a mafia pawn. Yeah.

546
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guy who is not quite

547
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: a made guy. Who acts like he's a made guy,

548
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: but he's not a made guy. But he has a

549
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: lot of money and like that. Yeah, and like they

550
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: keep him around because they're like, this guy he'll pay

551
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: for everything. Yeah, he's like, he'll put his name on stuff,

552
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: then we get all the money and then we laundered

553
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: through him, and he just does it for high fives.

554
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: He says the funniest stuff out. Uh. And then Tom

555
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Hagen with dementia Rudy Julian was doing the rounds over

556
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: the weekend to put together some crystal clear messaging about

557
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: why Donald Trump is, in the words of the President,

558
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: very legal and very cool. Yeah, everything he's done is

559
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: totally not a crime, because nobody got killed, nobody got hurt.

560
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Rob what's the crime. Wow, it's amazing that because he's

561
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: kind of regurgitating the same talking points, it seems like

562
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: this is the plan. Yeah. No, because he went on

563
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: George Stephanopolis Show and then on Fox and basically was like, oh, okay,

564
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: this is the messaging now, which is basically just the

565
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: same tired ship of like, you know, Michael Flint got

566
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 1: set up because the FBI told him he couldn't lie

567
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: to them, or John Edwards also did it so, or

568
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: Michael Cohen is a liar so you know, and then

569
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: there are many all kinds of very painful, painful arguments

570
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: he made, which was sad because none of the ship

571
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: that he said makes any legal sense. You know. It's

572
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: purely just a pr tactic to like obscure the truth

573
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: and just get his base like kind of off balance,

574
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: so he could be like, yeah, right, So even though

575
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: they got him basically named in this indictment, even though

576
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: he's not an unindicted co conspirator, maybe they're trying to

577
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: do too it's like very odd, I mean, and so

578
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: it's just him. I think Giuliani, like I think the

579
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: political establishment where it was like made it right after

580
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: a while, and now he's just like misses it and

581
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do and he can't play anymore.

582
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: So now they're just like He's like, I'll just run

583
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: interference for you criminals so I can get back at

584
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: all these people. You kick me out of the game.

585
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: Like it feels like he doesn't care about Trump or anything.

586
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: He's just throwing a wrench in the whole system because

587
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: it won't let him play anymore. Right, this is all

588
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: a consequence of nobody wanting to go near Trump, like

589
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: during the election because they didn't think he was going

590
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: to get elected and he was, you know, a pariah.

591
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: And then after the election he was like ha ha

592
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: funk all of you. None of you wanted to come

593
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: near me. And the only people who were left don't

594
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: aren't very good at their job. They were, you know,

595
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: the people who were willing to come near him because

596
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: for a reason they didn't have anything else going on. Yeah,

597
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: no one had asked them to the dance before. Yeah,

598
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: we can come in the room, okay, Yeah, Okay, there's

599
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: just like one there's just like one lady holding the

600
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: Donamite stick. This is a fun party. Hey, what happens

601
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: when that thing burns down? I don't know handles hot,

602
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: but yeah, one of the really, I mean, throughout all

603
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: of these interviews, you could just tell that, like you said,

604
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: there isn't much of a legal strategy. And half the time,

605
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: Julian he's like admitting some He's like, well, yeah, I

606
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: mean that maybe they were talking to Rush up until November.

607
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Do you think they had a conversation though, like as

608
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: attorney client, and Rudy was just like honest with him,

609
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: like oh, you're like you're fucked because of what you've done.

610
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: So here's what I'm gonna do. I don't just delay it.

611
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and I like to talk and drink.

612
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: So I want to go drink and then I want

613
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: to go talk on TV and say some crazy stuff

614
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: and then people will talk about me. And it doesn't

615
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: matter if they talk about me or not, because I

616
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: can't play. This is just me playing the game. This

617
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: is the only Rogers Don't role I have at this point,

618
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: and so I can say crazy stuff because technically you

619
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: paid me a dollar, right, and I'm your attorney. That

620
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: seems way too coherent for the mind that we're about

621
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: to hear. Yeah, so this was him on this week.

622
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: I like to the benefit with George Stepanopolis where we

623
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: just watch a wild art and you guys are like,

624
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 1: now listen into the Yeah, no, that's fine, But I

625
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: would I would respond with this clip in which he

626
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: gives a very interesting defense on wiki leaks and collusion

627
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: isn't I don't know here just listening to this, And

628
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: did Roger Stone ever give the president a heads up

629
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: on wiki leaks leaks concerning Hillary Clinton the d n C.

630
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: Not at all, Not at all, I don't believe. So. Again,

631
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: if Roger Stone gave anybody heads up about wiki leaks leaks,

632
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: that's not a crime. It would be like giving him

633
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: heads up that The Times is going to print something once.

634
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: The crime. This is why this thing is a weird strange.

635
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: The crime is conspiracy to hack. Collusion is not a crime,

636
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. Conspiracy to fraud the government? Right, conspiracy hack,

637
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: that is the crime. We don't know whether the Donald

638
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: Trump engaged in a conspiracy to hack with the Russians.

639
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: They've been going at it the counterintelligence investigation came to

640
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: the conclusion no evidence anyway. Nice pivot there, Rudy, But

641
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: his whole point is sort of like, it's fine if

642
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: the Russians were trying to help him, But he's just

643
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: trying to put it in the thing of Roger Stone

644
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: told him this thing was going to happen, not really

645
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: looking at the totality of the event, which is the

646
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Russians are hacking his political opponent and leaking damaging evidence

647
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: to help him and signaling to him that it's going

648
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: to happen so he can get in front of it

649
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: and start messaging properly without It's great diversion. You're arguing

650
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: like a minute point while distracting from the larger crime,

651
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: where you're just like, well, it's not I mean, he

652
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: didn't technically jay walk when he robbed that bank, right, right,

653
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: so like and no one got hurt but the money. Right.

654
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: It's almost like the food thing we were talking about,

655
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: because they've managed to just like logic themselves into this

656
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: version of reality where the only thing that is a

657
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: crime is the person hitting the key strokes that hacked

658
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: into the people's email, which isn't even a person. It

659
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: was probably a computer pre right, But like knowing that

660
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: Russia was trying to help you, not telling anybody dying

661
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: about it and then coordinating with them and coordinating your

662
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: like campaign strategy to benefit from that, is that's not okay?

663
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: Am I right? And saying that feels wrong? Light feel like,

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00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: but we don't know who did it. Could have been

665
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: some four pound guy and his mom's basement in New

666
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: Jersey or whatever. The uh? All right, there there are

667
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: a couple of cabinet shakeups to uh he really is

668
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: there are a couple of cabinet shakeups. Ryan Zinky is

669
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: out as the Secretary of the Interior. Is that right?

670
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Because he did all sorts of corruption too many investigations.

671
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: He's literally leaving the game the second the Democrats have over,

672
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: saying yeah, I'm not gonna do this anymore. And yeah,

673
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: he was like it would be too much of a

674
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: waste of time to defend myself against all these false allegations. Okay,

675
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: uh and be like I'm just tired of this, right

676
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: guys thinking I did that murder, I'm out of did Yeah,

677
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave. I'm gonna go to country that

678
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: won't extradite me. What is Brazil? Is that is that?

679
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: And then uh McK mulvaney is going to move over

680
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: from what was his role before. He was a brilliant

681
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: overseeing office O MB of Management and Budget of the House. Yeah,

682
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: but they had him join everything he did CBFB, like

683
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: he anything. They just needed him to just sort of

684
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: move into because he was already sent it confirmed for

685
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: that position, like okay, go here, go here, go here,

686
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: go here because no one wants it or we have

687
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: unconfirmable the only one that understands other government works, right, right, Like,

688
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: just let let him do it. And he's like, I

689
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: don't want to do this, right Yeah. Well it's one

690
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: of those things where you know Nick Ayers, who was

691
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: Mike Pence's chief of staff, who was like naham to

692
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: the job. He was like, I only want to be interim.

693
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna do it, it's only for the I

694
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: cannot be the chief of staff. Like, I'll do it

695
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: for a little bit because I see the fucking arrows

696
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: they've already been launched. I see them now starting to

697
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: arc towards us, and I don't want to be here

698
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: when they fucking hit. And I think I was just

699
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: curious how bad it is. Yeah, so I don't want

700
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: to pick it that. I just want to get out

701
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, oh, it's worse than I thought

702
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: you got. Yeah, I thought it was a massive black cloud.

703
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of individual investigations coming our way. But yeah,

704
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: I think that's with Mulvaney, he did the same thing.

705
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: He was very clear to be like, I want to

706
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: be acting chief of staff. Don't say I'm chief of staff,

707
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm the acting chief of staff because he does not

708
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: want to be there for a very long time. And

709
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: I think for Trump, he just couldn't get anybody to

710
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: say yes, or the people that he was even floating

711
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: just seemed really like bad decisions. You want to come

712
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: do a job that I'm gonna blame you for, right,

713
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: blame me for everything that goes wrong. Yeah, so you know,

714
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: good luck to make good luck to the country because

715
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: running o MB is also a very important job. So

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00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: I hope they figure that out as well. Yeah. Amazingly, again,

717
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: he has a chief of staff who despises him. There's

718
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: great audio of Nick Mulvaney just being like, uh, am

719
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: I gonna support Donald Trump? I am do I like

720
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I think he's a reprehensible human. Like a

721
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: year ago, yeah, like very long ago. It was right

722
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: before the election. Yeah, and he's like, do I want

723
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: my son for Does he a role model? My sin?

724
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Yeah. I spit on the ground when I

725
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: think of him. Am I an opportunistic funck bag? Absolutely?

726
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: In d C. Does that answer your question? All right,

727
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna take another quick break. We'll be right back,

728
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: and we're back as as we record. This was down

729
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: six D, so well, we'll be keeping an eye on that.

730
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: But we also wanted to talk about CBS because they

731
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: continue to be really bad at dealing with sexual harassment

732
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: and assault, and there was a pre detailed New York

733
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Times look at a case brought by Eliza dish Coup,

734
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: the daughter True Lies, who has had a big career

735
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: since then, I mean, Dana, Dana Jump and Bull Michael Weatherly,

736
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: who is apparently Richard Mole right exactly. He was on

737
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: n c I S and they decided, you know what

738
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: the thing about this guy is, he has so much

739
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: raw sexual charisma, We're going to give him a show

740
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 1: that's all about sex. He's like a fifty ish dude.

741
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: And the ads when the show came out, was like

742
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna get you off. He's like, yeah, exactly, like

743
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: coming up because he is I don't know for some reason,

744
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: like he's just an expert witness, but he also like

745
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: solves cases. And because Michael Weatherley must have a high

746
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: opinion of and he knows where the clid is of

747
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: his own sexual powers, he made the show about that.

748
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: And so this invest gaistion that started after Eliza dish

749
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: coup like brought her case against them, like was very revealing.

750
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: So the character that she played had a running flirtation

751
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: with Mr. Weatherly's character, and the producer when she was

752
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: first hired said that they didn't want to have any

753
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: intimacy until the show's fifth season because you know, it

754
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: was like one of those will they won't they? But then, uh,

755
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: that's very confident. Yes, yeah, oh when we get season five,

756
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna fuck right, Yeah, we're gonna do

757
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: five seasons, like this is the pilot. Yeah, well the

758
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: thing was it like mid season she joined him. No, no,

759
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,479
Speaker 1: I think, but I think you know, when other TV

760
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: shows are playing checkers, bullets, playing chess, you know, I

761
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: don't have to tell you that. But then Michael Weatherley

762
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: at the Star started saying cool things like when Eliza

763
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: desh Coup would come to a set, he would say,

764
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: here comes Legs. He said that in front of several

765
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: casting crew, and then he also said in front of

766
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: them that he would like to bend her over his

767
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: leg and spank her in front of the Yeah, in

768
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: front of the whole castle. Uh. Now, the amazing thing

769
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: is not only do we get an idea of what

770
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: Michael Weatherly is like from his behavior on the set,

771
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: but we also get to hear his justification of this behavior.

772
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: When the investigation was brought Mr Weatherly said the remark

773
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: about spanking was meant as a joke. Quote ad libed

774
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: a joke, a classic Carrie grantline from Charade or Philadelphia story,

775
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: and that meant not at all that that was an

776
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: action I wanted to take. So he's like using like

777
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: shitty actor improv lingo to justify sexually harassing somebody. Joke.

778
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I love people using like that was a joke. Right,

779
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: I was doing an ad from his Bourns right called

780
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: creepy fucking coworker. Yeah. At one Power Dynamics. At one point,

781
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: her character raises three fingers like that's the script told

782
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: her to and in response Mr Weatherly said threesome. And later,

783
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: because he said it in front of the whole cast

784
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: and crew, a crew member approached her and said, with

785
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: a chuckle, I'm with bull. Can I get in on

786
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: that threesome with you? Because it was like, and I

787
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: think it is a good indication of just how the

788
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: whole CBS thing works is you have these powerful men who,

789
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: like less Moombez, like have people on retainer to give

790
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: him blow jobs like that. He had actual employees at

791
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: CBS who just their only job really was to give Yeah.

792
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: And then what was the title? I don't know how

793
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: the accounting department thought with it. Yeah, there's like a

794
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: human resources huge red flag there. But in this case,

795
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Weatherly, the star of their show, is

796
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: just a complete monster to women, like publicly and you know,

797
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: openly on the set, and so everybody sees that. Everybody's like, oh,

798
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: this guy's the best. And then the cruise like, hey,

799
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a pass at this principal actor on

800
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: this film, Well, I'm not gonna miss with th right. Yeah,

801
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: Then came the shooting of a scene involving a windowless van. Uh.

802
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: Mr Weatherly said he would take Mrs Deshku to his

803
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: quote rape van which it was filled with phallic objects

804
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: and lubricant. Now we get to again here Mr Weatherly explanation.

805
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 1: Explaining this, He said, the scripted line in that scene was, hey,

806
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: young ladies, step into my windowless van. I didn't particularly

807
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: like that line, so I joked in order to highlight

808
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: how distasteful the emphasis of the line was about an

809
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: r van, a rape van, which in retrospect was not

810
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: a good idea. So van, yes, right, yes, an R

811
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: word van. So Eliza dosh Cou went to Michael Weatherly.

812
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: It was like all right here, one on one, like

813
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: we're two actors trying to work here, and like, hey,

814
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: yes you're you're really like making it awkward for me

815
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: on set and also someone unsafe. She told him the

816
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: story about the crew member who like asked her if

817
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: she wanted to be in a three summer like thought

818
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: that was a funny joke to make while they were alone,

819
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: and so she told him that and he was like,

820
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: why didn't you tell anybody? Why don't you just bring

821
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: charges against that person? And then two days later she

822
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: was written off the show well, CBS plan to make

823
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: sure part of the cast was over. Mr Weatherly did

824
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: a really shitty denial of claiming to push for her removal.

825
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: He said, it's my recollection that I didn't tell anyone

826
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: how they should do their job regarding the hiring or

827
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: firing of anybody. But he did send a There is

828
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: a text on record where he texted the head of

829
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: CBS Studios and said, I'd like to have a talk

830
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: about Eliza dish Cou's sense of humor. So it was

831
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: she didn't get his jokes. So yeah, cool. I mean,

832
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: they gotta keep revealing this ship so they can avoid

833
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 1: doing I mean, my like, what the so does she

834
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: and what happened with Weatherly? Does you have a show

835
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: still or what where is? I think that shows still

836
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: on or if not, they're probably developing the next Michael

837
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: Weatherly project where he plays a fucking awesome dude who

838
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: is the everyman that we all want to be. Well,

839
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: he made them a bunch of money for right, right, Yeah,

840
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: So there's like a it's a baby boomer lady show, right, Yes,

841
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: that's who digs that show. Yes, so yeah, yeah, I

842
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: mean the trick with CBS that I'm figuring out more

843
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: and more is that they're really good at like getting

844
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: these soft targets of like audiences that nobody else wants. Like,

845
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: so their ratings are really big, but they're all shows

846
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: for like you said, like you know, elderly women and

847
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: like people who aren't like the target demographics. So they

848
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: get to brag like we have the highest ratings, and

849
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: they do, but it's just like the demographics nobody else

850
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: is really good for people on their deathbeds. Well, it's

851
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: like the people who make commercials for pharmaceutical company. Right,

852
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: It's like that's not the artistic, cool Nike commercials and stuff,

853
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: but you're making a gang of money. Yeah, all right,

854
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: And finally, as promised, I wanted to talk about loneliness

855
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: and uh so and already left. Yeah, so I checked

856
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: in both of you guys over the weekend and like

857
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: nobody got back to me. I was on a hike, man,

858
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: I had reption you texted me. I'll be honest, I

859
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: was like, he wants what's your number? Man, Maybe I

860
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: don't have a story that could be the problem. Um,

861
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, I's not Both got at the same time

862
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: and we were like, do you want no, you're not

863
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: supposed to say this part out like our mics on no.

864
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 1: So I've been reading a lot lately about like how

865
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: this upcoming generation is the loneliest generation that we've ever had,

866
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: like Generation Z, the young people uh coming up behind millennials,

867
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: Like so people who are in college now, in high

868
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: school now just getting out of college. Yeah, and they're

869
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: basically the least mentally healthy, the most likely to self harm.

870
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: And just as Americans, we are the loneliest we've ever

871
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: been in terms of how we answered poles like how

872
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: lonely are we? How we answer questions like how many

873
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: people would you trust like to tell that you had

874
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: a problem, And it's like the answers between zero and one,

875
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: Like people are just like, we don't have close friends

876
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: really anymore. I told the lower half of my best

877
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: friend because I know that Dick would say ship. But yeah.

878
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: So one theory on this that made a lot of

879
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: sense to me is this idea that America is sort

880
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: of at the logical endpoint of this sort of neo

881
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: capitalist or like neoliberal period that was started by like

882
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: the Reagan Thatcher thing, where it's like we're all, you know,

883
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: individuals in this world where it's like pure competition. All

884
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: of the like collectivist ideas like unions and you know,

885
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: staying a part of a company that has like a

886
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: pension and stuff like that, that stuff has all gone away,

887
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: and now you know, we're in this place where it's

888
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 1: like gig economy. We're all just like independent from any organization.

889
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: In a gig economy, we switch jobs more than we

890
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: ever have before. And in that world, we're all individual

891
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: units of value accumulation in a zero sum game. And

892
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: to put that in context, the person was saying that, like,

893
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: each paradigm sort of conforms to the age that it's in.

894
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: So Christianity was the main paradigm during the Dark Ages

895
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: when it was like a lot of surfs and servants

896
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: and the best thing you could do for your uh

897
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: survival was not rock the boat and kind of turned

898
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: the other cheek and just you know, go along and

899
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: get along, and that was the best way to survive.

900
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: And our paradigm isn't necessarily what we think it is.

901
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: It's more of a The thing that people think is

902
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: unique about America is, you know, when they come here

903
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: from other countries, is that we value individualism versus collectivism

904
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: like more than anywhere else, to the point of like,

905
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: if you show an American a picture of a fish

906
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: apart from a school of fish, they're like, oh, well,

907
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: that one fish is the leader and he's standing apart

908
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: because he's like special, whereas other people just think of

909
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 1: it as like a lonely fish. Well, like Americans are like, hell, yeah,

910
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: that guy's fucking right. Other people are like, oh, have

911
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: they been ostracized. Yeah, they're actually talking about a thing

912
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: that doesn't really they don't have a theory for why

913
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: it is, but they were basically saying that the further west.

914
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: So if you start in Asia and keep going west,

915
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: like it seems like you go from the most collectivist

916
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: ideals in the world all the way to the most

917
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: individualistic ideas in the world. And like the West coast

918
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: of America is like the peak of feeling like you

919
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: have to be an individual you aren't part of any

920
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: you know, Silicon Valley is not part of any They're

921
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: very anti union pro like, we're going to shake up

922
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: this world with our individual inventions, but we need massive

923
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: amounts of people to help us. Yes, well can I Yeah.

924
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it has to do with

925
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: the Reagan Thatcher stuff. I think a lot of it

926
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: has to do with Wall Street and the greed. Part

927
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: of it was that these people already on the top

928
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: wanted more than they had already, right, so they convinced

929
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: people like, no, if you work really hard, you should

930
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: be a millionaire too, that you should have all this stuff,

931
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: which is like that's the system before it was like

932
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: pretty great where it was like if you were the

933
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: manager or someone higher up, your wages weren't incredibly higher

934
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: than the workers. You just got to go instead of

935
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: go amping at the lake, you got a cabin at

936
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: the lake, right, that's what because you did more work,

937
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, So your responsibilities were

938
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: more because of whatever, which I don't think. I think

939
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: it was a good balance between the two things. That

940
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: I think, you know is it was the greatest give

941
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: and take for us as like the laziness of man.

942
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: And then you know there's that part of us working

943
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: collectively but then against human nature. That's what communism doesn't

944
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: work because we can't fully do it collectively. And some

945
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: people are better than others. Some people have different things

946
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: so they get different rewards. But we're at like a

947
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: far extreme of the opposite of communism and socialism. Well, yes,

948
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: and because it's like we were talking about earlier with

949
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: the we have this technology and we're using it to

950
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: buy stuff and people are working much harder than like

951
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: are working at a like their output has even gone

952
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: up over the years, but wages don't go up and

953
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: other things like that. It's like now they're just whipping

954
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: the mass. Is harder to get them like work better

955
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: and then but it's like, oh, but there's no rewards.

956
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna figure out how to do numb Yeah, numb. See,

957
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the stuff like social

958
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: media and things like that are really good numbing and

959
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: time wasting and yeah, but not eighteen minutes to think

960
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: about like how you bring down the capitalist s? Yeah?

961
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: How can how can I collectively work to make all

962
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: my friends lives better along with mine? Right? The CEO

963
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: just you you mentioned the CEO to worker compensation ratio.

964
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: So in NIVE it was like in the twenties, CEO

965
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: made twenty times more than the average worker. By two

966
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: thousand it was almost four hundred. Seems too much, yes,

967
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: And now it's like almost three hundreds. So it's gone

968
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: down a little bit because people kind of got wise

969
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: to this. But another thing that they were talking about

970
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: specific to this generation is helicopter parenting and just this

971
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: idea that parents now are more protective and more they

972
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: overschedule their kids times and like spend all their time

973
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: like focusing on their kids and having anxiety about their kids.

974
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: And that's something that I've noticed just having kids that

975
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: like just that the conventions now are not when I

976
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: was a kid, the convention was just let your kid

977
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: go ride his bike, figure out make mistakes for himself, Like,

978
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, I was riding my bike and put a

979
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: fucking stick in the front wheel and flipped over Indiana

980
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: Jones like an idiot that, yeah, you only do that once.

981
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: And they were saying that that might also have something

982
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: to do with mental health of this coming generation, is

983
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: that they're sort of hot house flowers. They've been protected

984
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: from having to make any of the decisions themselves, like

985
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: make any of the mistakes that you get to make

986
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: when your parents aren't everywhere, kind of overmanaging your life.

987
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: And one thing that I was thinking, and I've had

988
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: this loot a couple of times, is maybe it's that

989
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: because we don't have these collective identities. We don't have

990
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: these groups that were really a part of When your

991
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: kid comes along and you have this kind of forced

992
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: collective relationship, it's like a pinprick of light against the

993
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: complete like darkness of just your lonely existence, and people

994
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: sort of like over compensate and like just become obsessed

995
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: with their children. You kind of see it in social

996
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: media where people like over document the lives of their children.

997
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: I think that's more about them on social media. Yeah,

998
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: I think they use that because they get likes. That

999
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: makes them feel good. That's that's the one where it's like,

1000
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: I think there is that sharing with your family or

1001
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: whatever and your friends. But I think a lot of

1002
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: some of what you're talking about, I do think is

1003
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: narcissism that and it goes with technology is like we

1004
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: can make money or a lot easier and from different places,

1005
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: so we're there with our kids a lot more. And

1006
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: I think a lot of those parents are trying to

1007
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: get their kids to be something they want them to be. Yah,

1008
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: And I think that's more of a problem now than

1009
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: ever has been because of specialization. And like the what

1010
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: I try to stay conscious of is like I was

1011
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: an athlete growing up, I was outside. I played every sport,

1012
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: whatever season. My son could give a fuck about sports,

1013
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: but he's athletic. So like I've had to back off

1014
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: like putting him and stuff like that. Right where It's

1015
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: like he likes to draw and that's how he has

1016
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: this stuff, so I have to take him to like

1017
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: art stock, right. But I see other parents that have

1018
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: kids that they forced them to do this stuff that

1019
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: they like because their value. But that's not unique to

1020
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: this generation, right, That's what I was saying, Like I

1021
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: know a lot of like sports dads who are fucking

1022
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: terrifying back when I was a kid, right right, Yeah,

1023
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: and even my dad, like my grandfather tried to get

1024
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: my dad to play a bunch of sports too, because

1025
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: they're sort of like, well that's what that's're supposed to do.

1026
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: My dad hated sports, but then like so then he

1027
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: raised me in a way he was like, Y'll do

1028
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: whatever funk you want. Like like I take like I

1029
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: try to find athletic things for him to do, so

1030
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: because I understand the exercise is an important part of

1031
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: the of a balanced life. So I need to make

1032
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: him under something like there are certain athletic things that

1033
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: are fun for you to Like, he likes swimming, We're

1034
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna go play ping pong at this Korean ping pong

1035
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: hale I like to take him to. Once he saw

1036
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: how good these old Korean people were, he was like,

1037
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: this is awesome. Yeah, it's like, how do I get

1038
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: like that? Put in ten thousand hours? Yeah, come here

1039
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: every day at three pm. Whips. My I thought I

1040
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: was good at table time. It's my mother in law,

1041
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: my mom. I my mom was secretly good at ping pong.

1042
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: It's the Asian thing. Yeah, like in Japan, it is

1043
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: big and it's funny. I got a ping pong table

1044
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: like like right after Forrest Gump came out, because I

1045
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I need to get in this ping pong.

1046
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: And I remember my mom fucking smoked me one of

1047
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: the first games, and I cried tell me. She's like, oh,

1048
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: this is this how you do it? Just fun? I

1049
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, you're fucking around mom, right, yeah? Yeah, anyway,

1050
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: it's so fun. Yeah you're trying to Yeah, I guess.

1051
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean you look, we're all just trying to do right,

1052
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: you know. But I think that has something to do

1053
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: with like there's a we're more narcissistic and the individualism.

1054
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: We're putting that on our stuff on two kids instead

1055
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: of letting them. Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah,

1056
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: I played three sports because I wanted to play three sports.

1057
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: Like my dad wasn't like, hey, I'm gonna play this now.

1058
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: It was just like what's in season. I remember wanting

1059
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: to play volleyball one time just because I didn't have

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00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: a team to be on. Right when I got them

1061
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: playing in college, I didn't want to be on a

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: team anymore, right, which is odd now I never that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the beauties of stand

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: up to me. It was like, oh, I don't have

1065
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: to depend on anyone but me, and if I let

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00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: any if I let myself down, I can handle that

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00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: more than if I let someone else down, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is a weird thing to understand about yourself. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's good, And how do you feel about that? I

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00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: feel fine, that's what I'm hearing. That's yeah, that's what

1071
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm okay with everything. But I do feel like I

1072
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: am trying to figure out where the helicopter parenting I think.

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Speaker 1: I think it is tied to the individualism thing and

1074
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: social media and wanting to overshare on social media because

1075
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: it's a way to like the neo capitalism model that

1076
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about, the Reagan Thatcher thing is a zero

1077
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: sum game where if your friend succeeds, it's actually bad

1078
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: for you because like you are comparing yourself. It's like

1079
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: a zero sumthing. And so like social media is basically

1080
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: a machine for making you feel inadequate. Like and so

1081
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Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily what it is about how people

1082
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: relate to their children and that makes them want to

1083
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: like overshare and put that on social media and also

1084
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: overmanaged the kids lives, but I think it's tied to

1085
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: this new sort of loneliness in some way. Well, social

1086
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: media is that the whole thing is to make you

1087
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: fe insecure, so you keep doing stuff and showing stuff,

1088
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: so you're insecure about other people and you're not. And

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01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: I think without subconsciously of people, a lot of people

1090
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: will put that or trying to fix that insecurity they

1091
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: feel to make sure their child doesn't have it, and

1092
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: they're overdoing it because of whatever reason. Yeah, and like

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Speaker 1: I think there's also this thing that human beings have

1094
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: to accept that your children gonna hate you for a

1095
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: while anywhere that's just the science of how that happens

1096
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: is like you're gonna suck them up a little bit

1097
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: because you're fucked up, so you have to accept that.

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01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: I think we overcompensate that because we know that, and

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01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: then sometimes we suck them up even worse. But I

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Speaker 1: feel like we need our children to like us more

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Speaker 1: than past generations. I know, yeah, I I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's I think you're right. Generation Like my parents generation

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01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: didn't give a ship how we felt about them, and

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Speaker 1: this general ration, like the people I see around me

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Speaker 1: who have kids care more, like seemed like they want

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01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: their kids to like them more. And maybe maybe it's changing,

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Speaker 1: but I definitely noticed that about past like the generation

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Speaker 1: of kids who were in college now, like that they

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01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: had relationships with their parents that was like a little

1110
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Speaker 1: weird like that, Oh I didn't, you didn't both my

1111
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: parents were No. I felt that for sure, like I would, yeah,

1112
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: totally in college. You see people are like, my mom's

1113
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: my best friend. That's fucking great. That is so like

1114
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Speaker 1: I lived three thousand miles away to this day because

1115
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: I like a healthy relationship with my mother three thousand

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01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: miles away. But that, yeah, I know what you're talking

1117
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Speaker 1: about because I remember I said it to my son,

1118
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: like when he was like four. Now he's just started school,

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Speaker 1: so I was like five or six, and he said something.

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Speaker 1: He was like, I don't want to be your friend.

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01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: I was like, man, that's cool with me. Like, I'm

1122
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: not your friend, I'm your dad, your manager, So I

1123
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: have to do stuff that you don't like to make

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Speaker 1: you better. And you just saw it compute in his head.

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Speaker 1: He was like, Oh, I'm gonna have to deal with

1126
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: this dude a little different than everybody else. Yeah, yeah,

1127
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: so and he knows, yeah, there it is. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's because my parents did the same thing. And

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Speaker 1: I saw, like even my dad was my football coach

1130
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: and my baseball coach. He was assistant baseball coach, but

1131
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: he was football coach, and he treated me. I was

1132
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't like the coach's son. I was this dude

1133
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: that the coach didn't like your number nineteen. Yes, because

1134
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: because I was never gonna be the one that, you know,

1135
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: they couldn't say that, so I had to earn it

1136
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: a little more, which was fucking frustrate, especially be like, oh,

1137
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: parents favored their children, what is that like? But I

1138
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: think that's what's crazy about the fact that people have

1139
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: changed the way they react to their kids, as like

1140
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: how I'm interacting with my kids, and it's very early

1141
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: on in that process, but it's so determined by how

1142
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: my parents interacted with me. But there has been this

1143
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: shift where a generation went from you know, like not

1144
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: giving it about their kids to suddenly like wanting to

1145
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: be friends with their kids and helicopter parenting their kids.

1146
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: I think it's probably like, right, every parent, like just

1147
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: the basis of it is that you want your kid

1148
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: to live better than you did. So as we know

1149
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: more about science and psychology and all these other things,

1150
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 1: like now like you know, our parents didn't know you

1151
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: know that like X, Y or Z might not be

1152
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: healthy or this, this, that and the other. So we

1153
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: were allowed to make mistakes. But as we know more,

1154
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: I think maybe that contributes to the idea of like, oh,

1155
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: now all these dangers have been very like precisely identified.

1156
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Speaker 1: I didn't know about emotional intelligence, right, that wasn't talked

1157
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: about when I was in high school. Yeah, what that

1158
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: phrase or what that was? I think that was just

1159
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,479
Speaker 1: intelligence to a certain degree. But separating it, it's something

1160
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: like you read the parenting books and stuff. They talked

1161
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Speaker 1: about emotional intelligence, which I think is very very important,

1162
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Speaker 1: and I think that's where some of the helicopter or

1163
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: parenting comes in, because people do realize, like how you

1164
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: react to things does have an effect on how successful

1165
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: you can be, especially in our corporate system. Yeah, because

1166
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: if you're emotionally intelligent, you know not to react the

1167
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: way your emotions are, you're to be cold, and then

1168
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 1: you can move up in this cold corporate system. So

1169
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: that's where some of that ship comes from. Yeah, And

1170
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: I think it's just an overall imbalance of you know,

1171
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: this world where values, Yeah, where we don't have like

1172
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: groups that were a part of and like it's just

1173
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 1: this like one family unit and that's like your only

1174
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: outside relationship where you have somebody that like you just

1175
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: inherently have so much love for and like need love

1176
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 1: back because you're not getting it anywhere else. That's sort

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Speaker 1: of that is a good point. Like even the individualism,

1178
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: like in groups, like even if you want to be

1179
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: a part of like let's say I want to be

1180
01:04:55,040 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: a even involved in that subculture. Everyone's like I'm the

1181
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: biggest writers fan where I'm this, and like even in

1182
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: that culture, you're still competing to be the best at whatever.

1183
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: So it's not like we're cheering on a team that

1184
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: none of us have anything to do with. But look,

1185
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: how look how long my spikes are out here. But

1186
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: I killed a Dodgers fan one that kind of yeah,

1187
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: that kind of when I am a understand. But it

1188
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: is like even that stuff is like even like I

1189
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: do it, Like I hate Alabama. I hate the University

1190
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: of Alabama, but every year they play in the National

1191
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: Championship and they cheer for them because they're from the SEC.

1192
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: I didn't play in the SEC. I didn't even go

1193
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: to the SEC, but I grew up cheering for Tennessee,

1194
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: which I don't cheer for anymore because we've had a

1195
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: tough decade, has been rough year, But I still do this.

1196
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,959
Speaker 1: I fall into those things where it's like I don't care,

1197
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: but when it's fun to do. Has Tennessee football just

1198
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: been bad since Peyton Manning or no, motherfucker, I don't.

1199
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm not a Peyton Manning fan. Vincey that's so weird people.

1200
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: That throws people off. No, he played it. Tennessee T

1201
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: Martin won a National championship. Martin the year after Peyton left. No,

1202
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: I was going to say Vince Young because their colors

1203
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: are both oranges. It's burnt oranges, Texas, alright orange. Well, see,

1204
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: I didn't even go there. I didn't graduate. Do you

1205
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: have the pride like what happened? But I don't think.

1206
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't think. I just think there it used to be.

1207
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know there. I was talking last week about

1208
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: how like bowling used to be, like people used to

1209
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: have activities. It was church. It was like we were

1210
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: part of a bowling league, were part of some ship

1211
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: that like you would have a team that you belong

1212
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: to that you could just like feel part of, feel

1213
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: like you were in a group. And I feel like

1214
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: because we don't have that anymore, and it's just something

1215
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: like I never knew that there was a bowling boom

1216
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, Like that ship just got kind

1217
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: of written out because it didn't seem important. But now

1218
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we're seeing that it was important to

1219
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: like have these groups that we were. I think you

1220
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: don't see them as much because like I played in

1221
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: a like an adult rec league baseball team that was nice,

1222
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: and like I think I think they're there. I think

1223
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: like I didn't realize that all that was happening until

1224
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: somebody was like, hey, I have a baseball team, would

1225
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of it? And then

1226
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, there are these groups inside these but

1227
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: we get so individually focused that you're not like or

1228
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: I think there's just not as much emphasis, so like

1229
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: you have to actually be someone who personally you desire that,

1230
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: so you're going to seek it out. But it's like

1231
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: wres back then, it was just those are like the

1232
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: options that were just in front of everybody. Yeah, we

1233
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: all wandered to the baseball field because that was the spot.

1234
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: Just gotta wonder if that's something you need to free yourself,

1235
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: and that's definitely something we all need. Well, Billy Wayne,

1236
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasures. Where can people find you at

1237
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: Billy Wayne Davis on Twitter at Billy Wayne Davis on

1238
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: Instagram And then yeah, I haven't. I'm we're about to

1239
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: announce the ball to Tour dates for two thousand ninet team,

1240
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: but I'm done for this year. Uh, it's been fun.

1241
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: Thank you all the Zeit gang for there's at least

1242
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: two or three every show now which has been dope.

1243
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: I was just in Santa Cruz and people were there's

1244
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: like a large number of that gang people and like

1245
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz, which I get it, they're smart people. It's

1246
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: a wonderful place to live. Potheads, right, there's surfing potheads,

1247
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: there's it's a cool place. It was underrated, Boom, I

1248
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: should have went with Santa Cruz. Damn it. Well we

1249
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: can still say retroactively underrated Santa Cruz. You should check

1250
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: it out, great boardwalk, Billy Wayne, is there a tweet

1251
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: that you've been enjoying. I've been enjoying Trump's tweets the

1252
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: last week and half because they're just all over the

1253
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: place and it's just just Donald Trump guy. Yeah, the

1254
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: President's tweets have been really fun because it's just that

1255
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: person that is like there's a part of you that

1256
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: like you're just gonna go down lying, you know where

1257
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: there's no like there's no point where he's like, all right,

1258
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: you got me where it's like you're gonna have me

1259
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Speaker 1: in the face, all right. So there's something funny about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really, Uh, I don't think he's gone leaving office

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Speaker 1: without some sort of constitutional crisis. Oh, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some shenanigans. Oh yeah, he said, just trying to bay

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Speaker 1: the cat, just like holding onto one of the columns

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Speaker 1: as they pull him away. R miles Where can people

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Speaker 1: finding Twitter? Instagram at miles of Gray. I liked a

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Speaker 1: lot of tweets. Actually one is from Dan White, asked

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Speaker 1: Dan White. His handle says every comedian has to work

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Speaker 1: day jobs. They don't necessarily quote love to support their passion.

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Speaker 1: There's no shame in it. Some are barista's, some are servers.

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Speaker 1: I work for the DePaul Medical School signing penises off

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Speaker 1: of cadavers to reduce weight and save on transportation costs.

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Speaker 1: That confauty. Another one just from the Washington Post that

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Speaker 1: feels like a joke. It says it's a headline from

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post. It says, I voted for Trump. Now

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Speaker 1: his wall mate destroy my butterfly paradise, okay uh. And

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Speaker 1: lastly is another one. Uh it's like a quote tweet.

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Speaker 1: The first is of like this woman like a really cute,

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Speaker 1: like three photos she's posing and says I want to

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Speaker 1: start in a Netflix series. Twitter, do your Thing. And

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Speaker 1: then Alex at ND seven U G H T Y

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Speaker 1: just goes the funk We're supposed to do way more

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Speaker 1: fucking free tweets. That's amazing tweet I like this. Marcia

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Speaker 1: Velsky tweeted your stripper name is John plus val Joe

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Speaker 1: and you can call me on Twitter at Jack Undersquore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeis for

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Speaker 1: at the Daily z eyegeis on Instagram. We have a

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Speaker 1: Facebook fan page on a website, Daily music dot com

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Speaker 1: boy post our episodes and our foot notes. We link

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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as the song we ride out on mild Oh,

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Speaker 1: we're getting it hopping. We're going we're doing something a

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Speaker 1: little funky, little, a little reggae. Five. This one's from

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Laura is called I Am in Love and it's

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Speaker 1: a toe tapper. It's going to get you're feeling good.

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Speaker 1: No Christmas music right now, just let's let's keep it

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Speaker 1: ivory alright. We're gonna write out on that we will

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow because of the Daily Podcast. We'll bye

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Speaker 1: in Love thinking up to the way I'm about to