1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast. All the work, all 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: the talk, all the handicapping is done. It's time for history. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: They're on in live. We're ready for the start. 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: They're in the Bell Stakes. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: Thank another two legs more back to win. Wind on 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: the turn, beginning to pick up drive near the back 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: of the pack as the field turns for home. Any 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: first do and opening on the outside. It's trying first 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: drive and they come to the final for long. Get 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: fling on what proved on to the line? What a 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: possible result here? Welsh that fell stakes. 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to the Action Work Podcast. I'm your host 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Sean Zrulo, and we're back to break down one hundred 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: and fifty seventh running of the Belmont Stakes, the third 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: and final Jewel Force Racing Triple Crown, held once again 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: at Saratoga Race Course. With me, as always is Action 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: contributor and racing expert Mike. 18 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: Kanti, great to see you need to talk though, first 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: about journalism's epic run in the Preakness. I've watched a 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: lot of racing, You've watched a lot of racing. I've 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: never seen a horse come through a spot like that 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: and get back into the race. 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: Never mind win the race. 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Was awesome to watch the race call because he was like, 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: oh journalism, here he comes. Oh my god, he's actually 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: gonna win. So if you pause the race at the 28 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: point where journalism got crushed in traffic, and I said, 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: you could have a free bet, but you need to 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: give me odds that you think are fair for journalism 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: to win from this point of the race. Where would 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: you have set that line? Knowing all the horse racing 33 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 2: you've watched in your life. 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting you say this because I forget who it was. 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: It was like maybe Patty Fair somebody oversees that, like 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: has odds based on that point in the race, and 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: I think it was four to one or something like 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: that on journalism at that point in the race. Keep 39 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: in mind, I mean he went off at six to five, 40 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: so four to one coming out of the turn is 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: wild to think about. Look, I'll say this, I don't 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: know how much we really want to get into the 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: whole topic of like whose fault was it is umberto 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: putting people in jeopardy? Is it flaviant? Like there's a 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: lot to say that. We're not gonna get into that. 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: But what I will say is We've talked about it 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: time and time again on these podcasts. Journalism finds himself 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: in these difficult positions and it's a little bit confusing, 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: a little bit mind boggling, But clearly he is an 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: ultra impressive horse to be able to do that and 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: come back and win, and I would say win pretty 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: convincingly at that. From from that point, I mean, just 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: so impressive. You know, I think we're gonna have We're 54 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a great one. Not a deep field in 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: terms of number of horses, but I think it's deep 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: in terms of talent. So excited to talk with you 57 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: today about it. 58 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, much better field than we had in the Pretna Stakes. 59 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: It is about the same size and terms of number 60 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: of horses, but I think a much better field overall. So, 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: for those unfamiliar with betting on horse racing, how does 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: this Bellmont Stakes differ from the typical mile and a 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: half configuration at Belmont Park? Unique surface at Belmont Park, 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Big Sandy, I think Saratoga plays a little bit more fair, 65 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: more of a traditional surface that these horses are accustomed to. 66 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: A lot of them train up there as well. So 67 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: do you think this more traditional configuration mile and a 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: quarter with more traditional racetrack gives a horse like Journalism 69 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: a better chance at contending all three legs of the 70 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: Triple Crown. Typically I fade the horses were competing in 71 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: all three legs. Do you think this gives it Journalism 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: a better chance just because he doesn't have to run 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: that extra quarter milele. 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I would typically I would agree with what you're saying, Sean, 75 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't know for journalism as though that it matters. 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I think that he's that talented of a horse, and 77 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: so for him not wouldn't be as concerned if we were, 78 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, running downstate, or if we're running up here 79 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: in Saratoga. But yes, I tend to agree with you. 80 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: But I also think that, you know, because of that, 81 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I think we get some other interesting horses in this 82 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: spot that maybe if we were running at Belmont Park, 83 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: might not have been running in the actual Belmont, which 84 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I think makes it very interesting. 85 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk about one hundred and fifty seventh running in 86 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: the Belmont six race thirteen on Saturday, seven oh four 87 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: pm post time. As I said, going a mile and 88 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: a quarter on the dirt in Saratoga. The Derby and 89 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 2: Pretness winners going ahead to head in the Test of 90 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: the Champion typically don't get the Derby and Preakness winners 91 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: going ahead to head or don't always get it. I 92 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 2: should say there is rain in the forecast on Saturday. 93 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: Journalism Sovereignty, Bayeza all finished one two three at Churchill 94 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: Downs in the rain. We'll get to our tosses in 95 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: the moment. The number four Krudo though, does have two 96 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: wins over a wet track. So aside from those four horses, 97 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: any horses you're considering moving up considering the rain in 98 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: the forecast, and then we'll get to the pace in 99 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: the race in a second. So really more concerned about 100 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: the weather and your analysis of the field at the moment. Yeah, 101 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 2: I don't think that we're going to get enough weather 102 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: sean up in Saratoga, So I've been tracking, you know, 103 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: for the last two weeks to see what it is 104 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: they're talking about scattered you know, showers throughout the day 105 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: on Saturday. I'm not all that concerned. I don't think 106 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: that there's going to be enough brain to have a 107 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: muddy track like we did on Derby Day. So I'm 108 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: not concerned about the weather for any of these horses. 109 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: Frankly, discuss our horses to toss. 110 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: We'll get through the pace of the race as we 111 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: discuss these horses individually. We're not going to take these 112 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: in post position order. We are going to start with 113 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: horses that we're not planning on using in this race. 114 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: And personally, for me, there's three I'm looking to toss 115 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: both Pletcher entrants, the number four on cage, the number 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 2: five Krudo, as well as the number eight part of honor. 117 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: I would imagine Kanti certainly agrees with the number eight, 118 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 2: who we also tossed in the Freakness. He ran fifth 119 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: with an eighty six buyer, but as I said, this 120 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: is a much tougher field than what he faced in 121 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: the Breakness, and he is on short rest coming back 122 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: just a few weeks later. The number four on cage 123 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: is the Micropoli entrant. I think just wants to compete 124 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 2: and have a horse in here. He has won twice 125 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 2: on a wet track, as I said, but a career 126 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: best eighty four buyer and that was in his debut 127 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: ran a seventy nine in the Mud and then the 128 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: number five Krudo won the Sir Barton Stakes on Preakness Day, 129 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: but that was at odds of fifteen to one and 130 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: it didn't come back as a particularly fast race. Now 131 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: he's stepping up against better competition two weeks later and 132 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: he's going to be r vying with Rodriguez for the 133 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: front in this field. Ran a cru best eighty four 134 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: buyer and that, Sir Barton, don't think he's fast enough. 135 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: As I said, the short rest as well. So the 136 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 2: four of the five to eight, all three of those 137 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: horses are tosses for me. What are your view on 138 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: those three and any of there else you're considering including 139 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: in your toss list for this week? 140 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: On Yeah, I mean you mentioned hard to honor, you know, 141 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: all power to the horse, but you know, uh toss. 142 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: There's just there's nothing there for me to like, you know. 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: I agree with your stance on Rapoli with the four 144 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: uncaged also somewhat of a late entrant into this right 145 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: wasn't originally going to be here, but decided with a 146 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: shorter field, why not give it a try. Here's what 147 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: I would say. If you're going to toss Crudo, I 148 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: think you also have to toss Rodriguez in my opinion, 149 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: because Rodriguez has proven in his career that he does 150 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: not like slash can't pass horses. Rodriguez's two lifetime wins 151 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: were from the front end and just didn't look back. 152 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: One of those was a maiden win and the other 153 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: one was the impressive win in the Wood. Now, on paper, 154 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: when you start to look at, you know, early pace figures, 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Crudo actually has a faster early pace figure than Rodriguez does. 156 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: And he's got the post position to kind of dictate 157 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: what he wants to do. He being Crudo in comparison 158 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: to Rodriguez. And so if you're going to toss one, 159 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: in my opinion, you've got to toss both. And because 160 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: of that, as scary as it is to toss a 161 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: Bafford horse, I'm tossing both. 162 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: So we'll get to Rodriguez when we talk more about 163 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: horses underneath, at least I should say we would. Let's 164 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: talk about Rodriguez a little bit more here. 165 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: Why not? 166 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: So he came he had a foot bruise that scratched 167 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: him from the Derby. Ultimately they were them pointing him 168 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: at the Preakness, and they decided probably still not good 169 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: enough to go there. So I don't love the fact 170 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: that this wasn't the original target. They've now backed him 171 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: up twice. If he ran in the Derby and ran 172 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: well and then was coming back here five weeks later 173 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: without the injury, I think I'd be much more inclined 174 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: to use him. He was a horse that we both 175 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: liked coming into the Derby. I considered him more of 176 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: a B horse for me. I think he was on 177 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: your A list, so we definitely liked Rodriguez for the Derby. 178 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: It does seem like there was a potential pace setup 179 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: for him here initially. I feel like Crudo was also 180 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,599 Speaker 2: kind of a late entrance to the field. When I 181 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: saw the initial list of probables, I don't remember if 182 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: Crudo was on there initially, so Rodriguez I thought, was 183 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: the loan speed coming into this race before the post 184 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: position draw, and then I saw Crudo in the field 185 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: as well. He does have much better buyer speed figures 186 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: than Crudo one on one and one hundred in his career, 187 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: as I said, Crudo. 188 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: In the mid eighties. 189 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: But if Rodriguez is going to face some pressure up front, 190 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: if Krudo was able to get ahead of him, as 191 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: you said, based on the early pace figures and also 192 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: the time form us pace projector has Crudeo ahead of 193 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: Rodriguez at the first call. So I think all of 194 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: that really comes to say, you know the fact that 195 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: you were higher on Rodriguez. 196 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: Than I was. 197 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: You have the injury factor, you know going in now, 198 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: that makes me likelier to not use Rodriguez as a 199 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: potential backup here on tickets. I was considering using them underneath. 200 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: We'll get to the other horse up potentially like underneath later, 201 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: but that kind of downgrades for me for Rodriguez from 202 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: maybe using as a bee horse to potentially using. 203 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: Third or fourth on trifecta tickets. 204 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: I think, I think you can maybe hang on after 205 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: getting near the front and then finish third or fourth, 206 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think unlikely to finish first or second. 207 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: Is that is that kind of how you view Rodriguez 208 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: as well? Like between Rodriguez and Crudo, who do you 209 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: think is likelier to run third or fourth? 210 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, look, I think more likely to run 211 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: third or fourth. I would agree with you that it's Rodriguez, 212 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: But you mentioned all you know, all aspects of Rodriguez 213 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: that I think our big question mark still right, Like 214 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: do I am I questioning his health at this point. No, 215 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: but you know, you think about the amount of time 216 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: off and the brus and yes, he you know, has 217 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: been training since then, But you know, I don't. I'm 218 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: a big fan of a seven day work pattern. And 219 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, he worked at the end of April, then 220 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: obviously didn't run in the derby, worked on the eleventh 221 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: of May, then didn't work again until May twenty third, 222 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: and then worked May thirtieth before shipping, you know, back 223 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: across the country. And that's the other thing. He went 224 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: from being in Kentucky at you know, mid beginning of May, 225 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: then shipping back out to the West coast just to 226 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: ship back to the East coast. Like you put all 227 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: these things together. Yes, is he the one of those 228 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: two more likely to run third or fourth? Sure? But 229 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: still I'm more leaning towards a toss with Rodriguez than 230 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: even using underneath before. 231 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: We get to our sponsor any other horses that you 232 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: think are likely to contest this pace a little bit. 233 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: I think Baeza is going to be a little bit 234 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: closer to the lead than he was in the derby, 235 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: but I don't think he's going to be a full 236 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: send from the start. I think he'll be a little 237 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 2: bit more calculal. Any horses besides the three and the 238 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: five that you think are likely to send and actually 239 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: try to get the lead, which may not be a 240 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: part of their previous race history. 241 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see it, Sean. I don't see 242 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: it in running styles, in replays on paper, none of it. 243 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know is though, I mean, I guess 244 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: the only other one that I could potentially see, just 245 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: because he's got Louis Sias, who tends to be an 246 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: aggressive jockey, is uncaged, you know. But you know, is 247 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: he going to send against another pluscher horse? 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I'm going three deep CONTI curious how deep 281 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: you're going in terms of your pick fours, pick fives. 282 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the three top finishers in 283 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby. Seems pretty simple. But of the three, 284 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: if I'm betting one horse to win, it's the number 285 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: six ba As. I think he's the best value on 286 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: the board. He had an outside post in the Derby, 287 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 2: was kind of forced to be wide well, was forced 288 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: to tuck in to save ground the first turn, which 289 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: kept him back, got fell all the way back to fifteenth, 290 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: and then he had to go wide around the far turn. 291 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 2: Journalism got first run on him, rallied all the way 292 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: from fifteenth to third in the Derby. Journalism Is obviously 293 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: beat him twice, but he has run very comparable speed figures, 294 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: and of the three top finishers in the Derby, I 295 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: thought he had the worst trip of the group. So 296 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: I'm curious on your take as well, of the trips 297 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: that each of the three contenders had in the cut 298 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 2: Herby the number six by A's and the number two 299 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: Sovereignty and the number seven Journalism. I thought by is 300 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: that personally had the worst to be given his post 301 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: position and given the traffic and considering the freshness coming 302 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: off the breakness along with side Sovereignty, I do think 303 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: he is equally likely to improve. This is a horse 304 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: who's improved as buyer speed figure in every single career. 305 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: Start running a one h two which match Journalism in 306 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby. So your thoughts on Baza overall, and 307 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: then your thoughts on the three trips that the six 308 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: Baas of the two Sovereignty and the seven Journalism had 309 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: in the Knduckut Derby relative to one another. 310 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Look, Sean, I agree with you. From a value perspective, 311 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: it's Baasa four to one. I'm not you know. I 312 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: think given that you have journalism, uh you know who 313 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: second of the Derby, and obviously with the freakness and 314 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: Sovereignty the derby winner, I actually think that you're going 315 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: to get a price similar to that. So from a 316 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: value perspective, it's Baeza all day long. From a talent perspective, 317 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't think it's any question. It's Journals. He is 318 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: one of the more talented horses that we've seen in 319 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: the last five years. I would say this horse somehow 320 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: just continues to run his race. We talked about it 321 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: top of the show. Yes, he continues to run in 322 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: traffic or run into traffic, but he finds ways to win. 323 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: And you know, in terms of uh, you know trip 324 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: like you were talking about before, you know, Mike McCarthy 325 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: came out and said, you know, hey, Sovereignty got a 326 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: better trip than us in the Derby, and if we 327 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: got that trip, we win. And then we're sitting here 328 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: saying we've got a Triple Crown contender on our hands 329 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: if that happens. Right. Thankfully it didn't, so that way 330 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: we don't have to deal with that. Is it truly 331 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: the triple Crown because it's not being run at Belmont's 332 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: being run at Saratoga to a mile on the quarter. 333 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: But I digress, look value agreed with Baiaza most likely 334 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: winner journalism, and I actually think that you're going to 335 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: get again. We talked about this same thing for the Preakness. 336 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: Eight to five I think is a pretty fair price, 337 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: and that's actually decent value for you know, what I believe, 338 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: and I think what a lot of people believe journalism 339 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: is in terms of being a spectacular horse. And so 340 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: if he sticks around that number, I think you're gonna 341 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: see a lot of people you know, using him in 342 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: terms of how I'm thinking about it from you know 343 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: a's and b's and multi race wagers. Honestly, I'll probably 344 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: put journalism as a soul a and then have Baiaza 345 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: and sovereignty as as bees. Maybe I bumped Baasa up 346 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: to an A. I do like that. You know, not 347 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: only did he close from obviously pretty far off, he 348 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: had to pass a significant number of horses, uh and 349 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: having the toughest trip in the derby, but he's shown 350 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: that he can be much more tactical, and I think, 351 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, Flavian will put him in that tactical position. 352 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: And you know, again, of the three horses that we're 353 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: talking about, Sovereignty, Journalism and Biaza, bas is the most 354 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: lightly raced. So I do think that he has the 355 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: ability to continue to progress. Not to say that the 356 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: other two can't, but it's much more likely in my 357 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: opinion that he's able to continue to progress. 358 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: If I may not, I'm an number two. 359 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: Sovereignty is just the fact that I think his two 360 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 2: best career races have both come at Churchill Downs. One 361 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: is a two year old and then obviously the win 362 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: in the Kentucky Derby, not his two fastest races, but 363 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: his two best career wins. Did run a one oh 364 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: four Buyer in that Kentucky Derby. As I said, Journalism 365 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: by Asa both ran one oh two's Journalism does have 366 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: the best figure in the field, running a one o 367 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: eight in the San Philipe also had that ninety eight 368 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: in the Preaknas. He's probably runs a one oh five 369 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: if he doesn't run into traffic trouble. I mean, he 370 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: would have won by open links the link of the 371 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: stretch right had he not run into trouble there based 372 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: on how he ended up finishing the race. Now, what 373 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: are your thoughts on besides what I mentioned with sovereignty 374 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: and his best race is potentially coming to Churchill Downs. 375 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: Why do you think despite beating journalism, the public or 376 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: most handicappers, not even the public most handicappers, I feel 377 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: like strongly preferred journalism to sovereignty. It's not even close, 378 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: you know, it seems like this is a potential budding 379 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: rivalry sovereignty. Though going into the Derby and now even 380 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: going into the Belmont Stakes, even though he is the 381 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: fresher horse, I feel like just not get as much 382 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: love from handicappers in general compared to journalism. Is it 383 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: because journalisms run speed figures higher than one hundred now 384 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: four times? Or is it just that sovereignty is you know, 385 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: kind of progressed a little bit slower. 386 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: Or is it just the pure. 387 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: Talent thing and you know, journalism just seems like he 388 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: has a higher ceiling overall. Yeah, I think it's the 389 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: last bit there of just higher ceiling and the most talented. 390 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: And I think you know, you hear, you know, everybody 391 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: who's watching journalism in the mornings, and everybody is drooling 392 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: over the way that he looks out on the track 393 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: and when he's schooling in the paddock and when he's 394 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: working out there's never been a knock, right, Like, there's 395 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: no knock whatsoever on him. 396 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Now that being said, you know, I don't one hundred 397 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: percent disagree, nor do I one hundred percent agree with 398 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: your statement that you know, his best races for sovereignty 399 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: come at Churchill Downs. You know, I think I had 400 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: texted our producer Met Mitchell after the derby and I said, 401 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think I mentioned this on the last 402 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: podcast too, but don't ever let me throw out the 403 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: horse who finishes second in the Florida Derby, in the 404 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby anymore, and you know, I think, look, he 405 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: didn't win the Florida Derby, but had he won the 406 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: Florida Derby, he wouldn't have been eight to one in 407 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby. And so I do think that this 408 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: is a very talented horse. I think, you know, there's 409 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: a potential that if journalism continues to go on doing 410 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: what he's been doing, and I think what a lot 411 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 1: of people think that he can do in terms of 412 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, if he wins the Belmont, then you know, 413 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: I would assume they're going to point him towards the 414 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: Travers and then or the Pacific Classic maybe, but probably 415 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: the Travers, and then they probably run in the Brieders 416 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Cup Classic this fall. If he wins two of those 417 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: three races that I just mentioned between the Belmont, the 418 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: Travers and the Breeders' Cup Classic, if he wins the 419 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: Breeders Cup Classic and one of the other two we're 420 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: talking about you know, upper echelon, not an all time 421 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: upper echelon, but you know he's going to be in 422 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: that argument. And so I just think that we've got 423 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 1: a horse here that has a superior amount of talent. 424 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: The question continues to become what is his trip going 425 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: to be like? And how much trouble is he gonna 426 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: find himself in? 427 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean typically, you know, if you go back 428 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 2: right the history of horse racing, there's so many horses 429 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: that are beloved as all time greates, are not necessarily 430 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: all time greats, but a level above other horses who 431 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 2: won the final two legs of the Triple Crown because 432 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: horses used to contest all three legs, who won the 433 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 2: Pritanus and the Belmont without winning the Derby, who are 434 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: now well regarded in hindsight, right, And we just don't 435 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: have that many opportunities for horses to do it in 436 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: the two thousands and beyond. So I think Journalism is 437 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 2: potentially a special horse, as you said, if he goes 438 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 2: on to win this race, potentially win the Traverse Bridiers 439 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: Cup Classic, obviously horse of the year, but potentially considered, 440 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: you know, not an all time great, you know, not 441 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: a Triple Crown winner, but potentially like a half a 442 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: year below those. The one horse we didn't talk about 443 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: is the one horse hill Rode. He had a big 444 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: lake kick in the Peter Pants state, which is the prep, 445 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: the specific prep for the Belmont Stakes. He's Chad Brown trained, 446 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: Chad Brown always good at taking new shooters, pointing the 447 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: Atriple Crown races and having success with it. My concern 448 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: is that's that he's probably third best of the three 449 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: closers in here and unlikely to be journalism on the 450 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: square if he gets the same pay set up. So 451 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: ninety four buyer in the Peter Pan just think he's 452 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: a touch slower than journalism and sovereignty. But if you're 453 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: going to put him in a similarly good setup for 454 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: those horses to come running late, I think he can 455 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: get there and get third or fourth in exotics. So 456 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: your thoughts on the number one hell Road. I don't 457 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: view him as a wing contenor, but I do think 458 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: he can get third or fourth underneath. 459 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: I agree with you, you know, not a win contender. 460 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: But and look that Peter Pan traditionally, while it is 461 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: a prep for the Belmont, the irony is is traditionally 462 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: has not produced many Belmont winners. Did produce Archangelo a 463 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: few years ago. 464 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: All over Arcangelo as all over tonalist. I feel like 465 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 2: I have a pretty good feel for the Peter Pan 466 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: and its level of quality. 467 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: I didn't I think this one was a particularly good 468 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: addition of it. 469 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. But look, you know another 470 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: one though, who is extremely lightly raced and well I 471 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't say extremely, but definitely lightly raced, you know in here, 472 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: and I think has a ton of upside. You know, 473 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: in terms of the time for US pace figures, he 474 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: does have the best late pace figure at one twenty. 475 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't necessarily mean that you know he's going 476 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: to win this race by any stretch of the imagination, 477 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: but picking up some pieces late, especially if Crudo and 478 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Rodriguez go. You know, Look, it's hard when you when 479 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: you're talking about Chad Brown, one of the best trainers, 480 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: talking about Irad Ortiz. While I think Flavian Pratt has 481 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: had a better year to year and a half. Here 482 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, Irad still Irad, and when you're giving me 483 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Chad and Irad at ten to one, definitely can't throw out. 484 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: In the exotics, I will not be using hill Road. 485 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't believe in in multi race wagers, but underneath 486 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: in vertical exotics absolutely it's way to abstract value. 487 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: So in terms of horizontal vets, multi race wagering, I 488 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: will be using the number two sovereignty, the number six BASA, 489 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 2: and the number seven journalism likely all a a's. If 490 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 2: I'm going to use one of those three as a B, 491 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 2: it's going to be the number two sovereignty. If I'm 492 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: going to use any other horse anywhere and any tickets, 493 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: it would be the number three. Rodriguez probably not going 494 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: to end up doing that after Conti decided that he 495 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: is more of a toss than a potential use as 496 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 2: an A likelier to toss than to use him atop 497 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: this field, especially considering all the question marks he has 498 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: coming into the race. Conti, before we get into our 499 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: vertical wagers exact as trifectus, you just want to confirm 500 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: using journalism the seven likely as an A. Maybe BASAs 501 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: an A, but likely is a B, and you're using 502 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: sovereignty as a B as well. 503 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 3: Is that correct? 504 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: That's correct, That's exactly right. 505 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: So let's talk about our exact and trifecta tickets and 506 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: help you guys build out some potential winners for this weekend. 507 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: I think the best value on the board is to 508 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: try to potentially beat journalism and sovereignty together, just in 509 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: terms of value, getting Baieza top either Rodriguez or Hill Road, 510 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: so the six on top of either the three or 511 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 2: the one. Just in terms of value, I think that 512 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: may the best be the best bet, you know, pure 513 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: value wise, likelier six over seven ice cold is I 514 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: think how I'm playing it, Bieza getting first run on 515 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: journalism this time, you could bet the seven over the six. 516 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 2: I think that's perfectly acceptable. I'm probably gonna try to 517 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: bet six over seven and just get a little bit 518 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: bigger o return there. In terms of the trifecta, that 519 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: is where I'll use the other favorites, the two favorites 520 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: a little bit more aggressively. I'm going to have a 521 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: trifecta with Baeza the six on top of both favorites, 522 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: the two and the seven, and then the other two 523 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 2: horses I mentioned three, Rodriguez and the one hill Road, 524 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: so six on top of two, seven on top of one, 525 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: two three seven, and then I think you can flip 526 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: lines two and three. You could flip lines one and two. 527 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: So some other alternatives to betting the trifecta two over 528 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: two and seven over six over one two three seven, 529 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 2: one six over one two three seven over one two, three, seven, 530 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: and then lastly two seven over one, two, three, seven 531 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: over six. So a bunch of exacta and trifecta combinations, 532 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: but most of which are keying around Baeza finishing first, second, 533 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: or third in this race. Kanti, how you're building out 534 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: your exact end trifectors for this weekend? 535 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm gonna go I'm gonna be pretty straightforward, 536 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: pretty simple here. Like I've said, I think Journalism is 537 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: the most talented horse in this race. It is interesting 538 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: to me that I feel like in some ways we're 539 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: not giving Sovereignty the respect that he deserves as the 540 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby winner. But hey, that's just the way that 541 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: it works sometimes, and you've got to find a way 542 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: to take a stand. Uh. And so I'm gonna play 543 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: my exact I'm gonna play it straight, the opposite of 544 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: what you said. I'm gonna play journalism over the six, Baiasa. 545 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: And then from a trifecta perspective, i'm gonna play six 546 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 1: or sorry, I'm gonna play seven over six over one two. Uh. 547 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: So you know it's going to be a relatively inexpensive ticket. 548 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: You can obviously increase your base amount to try to 549 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: hit you know, a bigger percentage of the pool there, 550 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: but you know, really simple vertical wagers in this race. 551 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I think again we don't have a deep field in 552 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: terms of number of horses, but I do think that 553 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: we have a deep field in terms of number of 554 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: or in terms of the talent in the race. And 555 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: so for that reason, I'm gonna, you know, put my 556 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: neck out there and go a little bit you know, 557 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: thinner in my bets. So again, my exacta is going 558 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: to be number seven Journalism over the number six Baeza, 559 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: and then my trifecta will be Journalism number seven over Baasa, 560 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: number six over the one Hill Road over and with 561 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: two sovereignty. 562 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: This discuss my favorite race every year, which is Saturday's 563 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 2: met mile RaSE eight three seventeen PM. Not are particularly 564 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: a deep field, but a couple of heavier favorites. The 565 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: number one fierceness is even money. Seems like the horse 566 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 2: to be curious if he's going to go off at 567 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: four to five or lower. I don't think so. Just 568 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: because White Tobarrio figures to attract a lot of betting 569 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: in New York, He's had a lot of success at 570 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: Saratoga hasn't won the met Mile yet. 571 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: I think this is his. 572 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: Third try attempting to win it, and number four just 573 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: to touch tracks some betting attention as well. For John Stewart, 574 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on this race? Do you think 575 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: Fierceness should be lower than even in money? You know, 576 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: closer to four to five, three to five? Do you 577 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: think he runs away with this one? Any way you're 578 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: interested in betting it? This is Rayse eight, as I said, 579 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: so it's not part of Lapick five, but it is 580 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 2: a very prestigious race, National Treasure, Cody's wish flight line, 581 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 2: totally all recent winners, totally one of mile time favorite courses. 582 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: I want a lot of money betting on that edition 583 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: of the met Mile. 584 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: So any thoughts on how to bet this met Mile 585 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: considering Fierceness is coming in an either money or lower I. 586 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: Think it's tough, right. 587 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: I think if you're going to bet the met Mile, 588 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: you know the way to extract value if you believe 589 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: fierceness is the most likely winner, is you know, play 590 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: a pick three or find a way horizontally to get 591 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: additional value, because I'm not even sure vertically if you're 592 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: going to be able to find value in this race. 593 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Fierceness to me is the most likely winner in here. 594 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: You know, ran a. 595 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: Really good race in the Ali Shiba on Derby Day, 596 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: Most Wanted, came back to win Hall of Fame, came 597 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: back and ran, I believe, either second or third next timeout. 598 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: So you know, it's not like he beat up on 599 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: a weaker field. Those horses came back to beat others. 600 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: You know. Look, White au Barrio, he's a really interesting horse, right. 601 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's won almost seven million dollars and 602 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: he has ten wins from twenty one lifetime starts. But 603 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: he has this like interesting way that they kind of 604 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: run him right where like early in the year, they're 605 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: running him in some allowance optional claiming races obviously not 606 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: in for tags, to kind of get him warmed up. 607 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: And you wonder if this is a horse who needs 608 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: to have a couple of wins under his belt before 609 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: starting to get into some tougher competition, which he does 610 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: have this year, you know, winning the Pacific Classic and 611 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: then winning the Ghost Zapper back in March, but he's 612 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: been off since the end of March. I'm not as 613 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: high on White to Barrio in this in this spot, 614 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: but I think that you know you mentioned just a Touch. 615 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: I mean that horse in his two starts this year 616 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: has absolutely freaked I get it. Who is he run 617 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: against not great competition, but I don't care who you're 618 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: running against when you win by ten and a half 619 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: lengths and seven lengths. And you know, Brad Cox obviously 620 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing with horses, and those were his 621 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: first two starts as a four year old, right And unfortunately, 622 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: in today's game, not we don't see a ton of 623 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: horses run four or five years old because if they 624 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: have a very successful three year old season, they're going 625 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: right to the breeding shed. But just Touch didn't have 626 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: as successful as of a three year old season. And 627 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: so now the question is is like has he really 628 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: come into his own and really matured as a four 629 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: year old? And I think in his buyer speed figures 630 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: you can say yes, that's the case. And I think 631 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: with his early pace, you know, and again him cutting 632 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: back in distance a little bit to this mild distance 633 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: in the Matt mile, I think at four to one 634 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 1: you're getting pretty good value there. So I think Just 635 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: a Touch is very interesting in this spot. 636 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm really glad to hear you say that. I like 637 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: just the touch quite a bit going into the Derby 638 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: last year. I think he's a very talented horse, maybe 639 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 2: maturing a little bit later than that barn expected. Two 640 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 2: other races I want to talk about before we get 641 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: the people out of here. Two races on Friday, the 642 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: first being the Grade one Acorn Race eleven five forty 643 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: six pm post time, the equivalent of the Belmont Steaks 644 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: for the three year old Phillies. The big favorite the 645 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: number two Good Cheer, the Kentucky Oaks winner coming in 646 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: at one to two on the morning line. So my 647 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: question for you is that a fair price on Good Cheer? 648 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: Are you just going to single her if you're going 649 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 2: to plan on betting her at all? If you're playing 650 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: a Oaks Belmont Steaks double, and then I have some 651 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: interest not only because of the name, but also the 652 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: price on the number four shred the nar So any 653 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: thoughts on the number four as well as the number two? 654 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: Good Year Look? Good Year is undefeated. I mean, she's 655 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: she's a perfect for seven and I think that everybody 656 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: saw as that race unfolded on Oaks Day and in 657 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: the Oaks that there was no question that she was 658 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: going to be the winner, and that's kind of how 659 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: she's approached every race. I mean, it's crazy to think about, 660 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: but the the Oaks was the shortest margin of victory 661 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: that she's had at two in a quarter length. We're 662 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: not talking about like just finding a way to get 663 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: the nose down at the wire. She is dominating right 664 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: in everything that she's doing. I think it's gonna be 665 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: hard to bet against her. You bring up an interesting 666 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: one right in shred the Nar. Jockey Jose Ortiz has 667 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: had one of the best starts to a year that 668 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 1: he's ever had in his career. I think this is 669 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: probably the horse in this race, in my opinion, with 670 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: the most upside, the most lightly horse race, excuse me, 671 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: the most lightly raced horse in the field, breaking her 672 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: maiden two back and then you know, coming back from 673 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: that race to put up a ninety four or buyer 674 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: speed figure on the Oaks undercard, winning by seven lengths. 675 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I think that Shred Dinar is very 676 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: interesting in here, and I think the other interesting aspect 677 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: to Shred the Nar shred Denar is going to be 678 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, good cheers. Typically that tracker stocking type. Shred 679 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: Nar is not a need the lead type, but is 680 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: going to be up on the lead. The question becomes 681 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: is she gonna have enough late to deal with some 682 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: of those like Good Cheer and maybe even Bless the 683 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: Broken who are coming later, because she's gonna have pace 684 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 1: pressure from the three Lakara as well as I think 685 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: from the number one Scottish Lassie, and so I think 686 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of my concern with shred de 687 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: Nar is the pace pressure that she most likely will 688 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: receive from two horses to her inside. Now the good 689 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: news though, both of those potential pace pressure coming from 690 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: her inside, so she should then be able to get 691 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: the trip that she likes. If you're looking for a 692 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: price horse in here, I love Blessed the Broken. I 693 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: think maybe I'm a little bit of a love the 694 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: story of this horse with Bill Walden the trainer, But 695 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: I also think that the horse stands a big chance 696 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: and if they get a fast pace to run into 697 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, Bless the Broken finished third in the Kentucky Oaks, 698 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: only three and a half lengths off of Good Cheer. 699 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: Now again, Good Cheers an absolute freak, so you know 700 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: ten Bless the broken potentially turn the tables. Is it likely? No? 701 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: But at ten to one am I willing to take 702 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: a shot and some multi race wagers. Yeah, And in 703 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: multi race wagers, I'll probably have some where I single 704 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: good cheer and then I'll probably have others where I 705 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: throw good cheer out and play bless the broken, maybe 706 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: shred the gnaw in some other multi race wagers. 707 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: One of the race this weekend that you seem to 708 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: have thoughts on is race thirteen on Friday, that just 709 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: the game stakes seven h four pm post. I'm the 710 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: favorite number eight Excellent Truth, Chad Brown trainee. 711 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 3: So are you going with chalk? 712 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: Here? 713 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: He's looking elsewhere? 714 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: Unfortunately I'm going chalk. But it's I said, you know, 715 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there Friday, and when I walk in, 716 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm going straight to the teller and putting a bet 717 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: in on this horse and don't care what the horse 718 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: goes off at horse is the most likely winner of 719 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: the entire weekend in that Jenny Wiley, she ran second 720 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: by a half a length to Choice Up. If you 721 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: go back and watch that race, Excellent Truth has significant 722 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: traffic trouble coming out of the turn and in the 723 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: stretch run and still somehow almost wins that race. I 724 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: think that she is by far and away the most 725 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: talented horse in this field. You're getting her second off 726 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: the layoff, you know, Chad, Chad Brown, Flavian Pratt, look, 727 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: five to two is gonna be a gift. I don't 728 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: know as though, that we're gonna get five to two. 729 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: I think what will help us in this spot is 730 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: the fact that it's an eleven horse field. So maybe 731 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: get some better price, a little bit of a better price, 732 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: but you know, anything over even money I will be 733 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: thrilled with. But again, I don't care what the odds 734 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: are going to be on this horse. I'm walking in Friday, 735 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: walking straight to the teller making my bet, not looking back. 736 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for tuning in for my CONTI 737 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: for producer Matt, I'm Sean Zrulo, really appreciate you tuning in. 738 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: Hopefully we see you all back here in November for 739 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 2: Brugers Cup weekend. 740 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 3: That'll do it. Best of luck with all your tickets. 741 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: It's good luck. 742 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. If you or 743 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: someone you care about has a gambling problem, help is 744 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: available twenty four to seven at one eight hundred gambler