WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Full Draft Review 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.479 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:19.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.239 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:32.800 Star in Frisco. Following the line and now your hosts 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:38.440 Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.479 It is Talking Cowboys, presented by Geico, live and in 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.600 person from inside the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:51.960 in Frisco. As the twenty twenty one NFL Draft is 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.520 in the rear view mirror, We've got our esselorson, it's 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:59.600 got the Seymour do More role in except for Rob. Sorry. Rob, 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.440 It's okay, It's okay. We'll get one of these one 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.959 of these days. But the NFL Draft is in the 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.679 rear view mirror. We've got plenty to talk about, and 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:09.760 this should be a fun next hour, So stick with 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.600 us because we're gonna break down not only the first round, 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:14.400 but we're gonna talk about the rest of the draft, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.039 what happened on Day two, and then we're gonna talk 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.760 about even some of these undrafted free agents along the 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.959 way and how these new Dallas Cowboys fit into the 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.399 new system here in Frisco. Kyle Yeomen's alongside Rob Phillips, 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.600 Isaiah Stanback and heck My Harrison, heckm right before we 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.520 went on are you said you had something to tell us? 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:38.440 What is that? Guys? So something happened yesterday that I 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:43.840 gotta tell y'all about. Please, Okay, So I'm official celebrity now, 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.040 won't you to know this? I'm official? Right? We knew 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.960 that already. No, you didn't know, because it's the first 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.360 time I actually got noticed somewhere, like straight up, I 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.960 got noticed. Check this out. So I'm driving to Euston yesterday. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.200 I'm driving to Euston yesterday, and on the way, I 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.520 got hey, I gotta use the restaurant right, really bad, 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.840 and I see I see a BUCkies sponsor. All right, 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.960 see a BUCkies. So I running to the running to 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.960 the BUCkies right, really bad, really bad. I'm running fast, right, 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.800 and it's a it's a it's not a one, and 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.160 it's a ton. It's a ton of people and the 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.400 BUCkies and so and they got these like partitions at 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.880 the you know a little thing, right, And so I'm 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.680 standing there and I'm in full loan. Thank you lord, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.680 I made it mold and you know, I'm from the hood, Isaiah, 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.400 and so my spider senses went off, and I'm like, heck, 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.280 I'm gonna look over your shoulder. And I look over 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.440 my shoulder and there's the guy standing behind me looking 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:44.919 over the partition. No, looking a little creep but so 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.799 it's a Mexican fellow. He's an eyepatch with the Cowboys 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.920 star on his eyepatch. He's for the game. He for 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:53.960 the game, and he says, he says to me, he says, 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:59.320 heckma oh. And you know, hey. Meanwhile at the stall, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:04.480 it's so I'm still all this is awkward, right, So 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.519 I'm like, okay, yeah, and then he goes, heck Maharrison. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:10.639 So I'm thinking, dude, this guy's about to hand me 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.400 a subpoena. Something's going on. I don't know what's after. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.720 You know, first of all, I'm in Madisonville. Then this 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.560 guy knows my whole man right down the road from 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:25.880 m right, so classic stop heck Maharrison talking cowboys. I said, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:31.400 stand back rock feelings. So I'm standing at the buck. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.000 He's taking it's like first I gotta take a picture, 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.920 which I'm like, well, not in the bathroom, but through 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.040 it outside hands like this. In the middle of saying 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.880 that I did not know see you rock, You're gonna 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.880 ruin my whole story. But I'm telling y'all is just Ramone, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.200 My man Ramone. He shout out. I told her to 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.520 give a shout out today. So that's my story. That's 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:56.600 that's all I've been saying. Man, it was awkward, I've 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.360 been telling you, but that's that's the story. I had 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.520 to give you the full effect of the story. We 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.280 appreciate it, guts. By the way, if you guys do 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.400 see us out in public, feel free to say we 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:07.480 don't bite. We love it. Whenever fans come up and 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.160 talking and and of course listeners of the show, because 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.760 you guys are our favorite. So let's go ahead and 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.360 dive into what you want to listen to. That was hilarious. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:20.040 I love that meet cowboy fans every idea. But I 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.000 will now but heck, my Harrison the celebrity now here 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.920 on talking cowboys. Thank goodness. Uh, let's talk about Round 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.480 one of the NFL Draft, because things went down on 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:35.960 Thursday night that were one unforeseen, two unexpected. I guess 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.000 that's probably the same thing, but I tried to add 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.240 a different bullet point in there. But three something that 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:52.880 I know this into the table is extremely happy about it. Yea, yeah, baby. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.279 I will say on Instagram yesterday when you posted you 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.040 predicted the first round pick, you changed your predictions. No 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.359 he did, no, no, no, no, no no, this is let 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.680 me go ahead of course. Up. So what I said 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.360 was I believe that the Cowboys had they had the opportunity, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.280 we're going to take certain That sounds like a prediction 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:21.960 what I said, we should do? What pars pars, that's 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:23.840 what you would do. That's not a prediction, though, that's 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.120 that's fit. I mean, I agree he was gone. So 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.960 see here we did that. We did. We had a 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.279 story on who you wanted to take and who you 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.640 think they're gonna take, that separate stories. And in that 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.200 scenario where the corners were wiped out. By the way, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.679 for those of you who have not heard the story 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.880 or have seen what happened on Thursday, the Cowboys went 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:49.239 up on the clock at tenth overall. Both Patrick Turtan 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.960 and J. C. Horn were picked the picks prior Hord 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.919 number eight to Carolina, and then Curtain was at number 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.960 nine going to Denver and then the Cowboys were sat 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.400 there is stuck there at ten without their corner backs, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.400 and they had to make a decision, and basically the 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:06.480 decision came down to Rashonse later offensive tackle out of Northwestern, 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:10.160 and Micah Parsons, the linebacker from Penn State. They ultimately 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:14.360 traded back with Philadelphia picked up number eighty four overall, 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.240 a third round pick. Extremely smart, best way to do 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.080 this whole scenario because you probably with those two there, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.880 and we knew this too. I mean, we talked about 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.279 this scenario on a couple of shows that if they're 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.920 wiped out and it's later in Parsons, they're probably going 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.600 to pick Parsons because the defense needs that uptick, they 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.240 need that energy, they need that that prior even though 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.800 I would probably say I would have taken Slater. Plus, 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.000 we know they do mock drafts and all that kind 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.679 of stuff just like we do for fun. They knew 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.480 they talked to Philly leading up and knew that Philly 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.240 wanted a receiver, so they knew in that situation, in 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.400 that scenario we trade back, they're still gonna get our guy. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:51.560 Yea lose anything, And you knew Philly and New York. 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:53.719 Neither one of them were going at to take a linebacker. 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.120 No it decisions wasn't gonna happen. They needed some depth 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.720 their receivers. So you, like, like Rob said, you lost 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.960 absolutely nothing, right, you lost nothing, but you gained everything. 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.840 And the thing is is a lot of people might 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.120 be thinking, oh, you traded with a division rival to 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.320 give him a receiver. He would have gone to the 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.320 Division anyways. You would have played Devanta Smith, but instead 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.720 of playing in green, he would be playing in blue. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.239 So that's basically what the trade was for. It allows 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:18.840 you to pick up a third round pick, which I 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.040 think is a premium even to move back a couple 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.080 of spots when you're not going up to get a 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.520 quarterback that you don't pay that quarterback tax. So moving 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.600 back two spots. The Cowboys came out on top in 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:32.360 that deal because if Philadelphia went up got their receiver. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.080 Sure the Giants. Of course, as soon as that, as 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.680 soon as the Philly pick was made and it was 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.760 DeVante Smith wide receiver, break City, they backed out, I 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.640 mean out. They pulled the e jack button. They said, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.880 come here in Chicago, get justin fields and they pulled 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:46.960 out as much as they could. A really good deal 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.480 for the Giants ultimately as well. But what are your 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.040 thoughts on Michael Parsons. I know we've hit this a 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.720 couple of times, but he is the newest Dallas Cowboy 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.680 and now we want him to succeed. We want him 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.240 to come in and play hair on fire. You want 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:04.240 that energy, one that anticipation. Cowboys fans everywhere pretty disappointed, 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.720 I think across the board on Thursday. Let's turn that around, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.960 because Michael Parsons is a hell of a player. He 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.240 was fourth on the list of the four guys that 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.040 we thought were going to be at least for me, 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.400 I know differently for you guys, he was number one 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.160 on the list. That shows how much of a good 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.400 player he is. Tell him why the Cowboys fans should 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.280 be happy that Michael Parsons is going to be wearing 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:24.840 the star. Yeah, I think I think he was the 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.520 best selection at that point in time for the Cowboys, 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.280 And even before that, I know, Heck and I were 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.839 on the same page in terms of his abilities, right, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.640 I mean, he's he's a big boy, you know, he's 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.120 he's sixty four and or sixty three six four whatever. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.079 He is two hundred and forty five pounds and he 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.800 boy has some twinkle toes on him. I mean he 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:43.719 runs a four to three, right, So I mean you 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.440 factored that in with how you know, not only just 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.840 his abilities, right, but you factored that in with the 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:50.560 other two guys that are going to be playing next 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.400 to him. And also in addition to the fact that 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.720 the Cowboys have really done a great job of addressing 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.199 this defense affront, right, which is there been an issue. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.800 It's the reason why vander Esh's a reason why Jenny Smith, 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.480 the reason why we were hard on them all last 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.080 year because these office alignment had the ability to work 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.360 up to them, and no linebacker is going to be 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.120 successful when office alignment can get upon you. So the 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:14.839 combination of his athletic ability, his aggressiveness, right, his tenacity, 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:16.800 some of the things that I talked about, and in 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.960 terms of what Quinn's looking for, Quinn wants wants try 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.280 hard guys that are talented and athletic, right, and that 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.640 are coachable. I think that's what you got when you 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.079 when you go out here and get this at this 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:29.040 stet of an athlete that there were only a handful 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.560 of those in this entire draft man. I'm just interested 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.400 in how he's going to use this weapon. And the 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.840 reason why they drafted him is his flexibility. All of 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.000 the things that he can do. Played running back, play 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.320 d n in high school, five star athlete, the ability 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.000 to rush from the edge and pack the middle of 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.440 the field. He has all of those qualities. And the 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.720 one thing that really tripped me out on draft day 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.760 was just the opposite of opinion and cowboy nation. And 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.280 I understand between no, there wasn't and I believe that. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:09:59.800 You know, look when you start the draft show and 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.600 tober and everybody's talking about a certain guy, it is 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.800 embedded in your brain that we're gonna take that guy. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:09.320 But I believe I just was happy that the Will McClay, 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:11.800 Stephen Jones, they stayed to the draft board. They knew 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.280 who they wanted, They knew the guy that was going 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.840 to be most impactful in this scheme for Dan Quinn, 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.640 and I think he fits the mold. And we were 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.400 talking about kJ Wright, we were talking about he is that, 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.640 and that's how the conversation even started from what we 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.520 needed to do in free agency, how are they gonna 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.920 use this guy? And he's so multifaceted that you can 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.400 move him to several different places on the on the field. Look, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.520 offenses are coming out with five wide and they're playing 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.440 you gotta play a nickel set and you have to 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.560 find a way to impact offenses. You got you have 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.360 to apply pressure. And I believe that the Cowboys got 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.439 their guy that they know can be that scud missile 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:57.160 and can impact, you know, the game. I like that 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:59.440 fits his game to a t. I don't know Kyle 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.720 fans overall. To Heckma's point, I don't think there was 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.720 a consensus, like fans were disappointed with this pick. Fans 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.800 I talked to you you on Twitter and interacted with It's 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.560 like they're split. You know. They're fans that wanted a corner, 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.400 thought offensive line might be a need. But they're also 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.200 fans kind of like me, and it's like, take an 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.280 impact defensive guy and I'm happy and then you're gonna 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.200 be okay. Yeah, And I do think, you know, and obviously, 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.640 you know, media fans can be skeptical When the Cowboys say, hey, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.600 he was the top rated defensive guy on our board. 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.000 That's what they said. I think that's accurate. That is accurate. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.920 Now if a corner had Biff Certan had been there 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.440 at ten. Yeah, I mean he's that's in play because look, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.680 in the second round, it was clear they were going 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.120 after a cornerback. They knew they needed that. And look, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.720 the value we talked about it Horn Certan. The value 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.679 is there. Those guys are going to be really good 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.280 if you were going to take him at ten. But 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.560 Heckma's right. I am really curious to see how they 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.640 use him. Jerry Jones talked to us after the press 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.440 conference Thursday night. He was asked about, Hey, this isn't 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.800 a sign that, look, you're you're disappointed with vander Esh 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:06.280 you're disappointed with He said no, He's got a different 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.679 skill set and he taught. He said, pressure, pressure, pressure. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.760 So I'm really curious to see. Now. I'm not saying 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:16.120 he's gonna be the the edge rusher consistently or the 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:19.240 leo in dan Quinn's scheme, but I think they're gonna 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.040 use him on blitz is. I think they're gonna use 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:23.439 him go taking advantage of his strengths. And that's we 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.400 kind of talked about this with Jalen Smith going forward. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.000 That's that's history. Now he off the ball You've talked 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.440 about his coverage, Kyle, that's something he can improve on. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.440 But man, he can impact the game going forward as 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.520 a rusher and like like Isaiah said, he gets places 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.840 in a hurry with that four three speed. If he's 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.080 utilized the right way, he's a top five talent in 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:47.000 this in this draft to five talent. I want people 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.120 to understand how you know, obviously we're talking about how 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.320 he may be utilized, right, but understand how he fits 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.120 into the scheme of this entire defense. Right. You you're 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.080 you've taken care of the guys up front, right, I 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:57.640 feel like we have. I feel like we have. I'm 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.080 not saying that we got to have dominate guys. All 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.120 we need is guys not allowing offensive linement of the 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.080 second level. That's ultimately what you need from your defensive line, right, 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.560 and then obviously some ends to apply some pressure. But 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.360 when you have these guys on the second level that 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.480 could shoot the gap, right, when you have these guys 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.280 on the second level that are all capable of running 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.280 sideline the sideline, when you're capable of when you have 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.240 guys that are physical. Oh and by the way, there's 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:17.679 a guy by the name of kelto Neil that we're 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.679 gonna be having coming down into the box too. So 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.520 your second level is gonna have Jalen Smith, vander Esh 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.520 Parsons and kelt O'Neil. That's gonna be your second level. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.520 And you think he is a linebacker. Yeah, there's no 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.320 question about it. So you're gonna have those four guys 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.040 at that level running and hitting people. It's gonna be 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.199 a fast and furious defense and I'm looking forward to 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:39.679 seeing it. No, and I believe just looking at Dan 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.959 Quinns and and we're gonna talk about the interview, but 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.920 just in the interview him just addressing just the culture change. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.920 He realized that that's the one thing that you have 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.040 to do, the culture changing. You talked about it, Isaiah, 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.040 like when you when you talk about teams like Seattle, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.280 what made them who they are? The culture? And man, 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.480 we just haven't had that edge in the building for 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.480 a very long time. And I'm not talking about defensive 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.440 and I'm talking about edginess as a ball club identity. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.800 Thank you, what is your identity? And no one has said, like, look, 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.199 when the cowboys come to town, I don't care when 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.280 louis a draw, you better keep your head on the swive, boy, 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.480 and you better be ducking right. And you didn't have 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.480 that attitude. So from the locker room all the way back, man, 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.080 all of this soft talking, Oh we need to get 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.880 it good. No, man, what we need to do is 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.040 put people on their wallet. And so that's what that's 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:27.760 what I believe the difference is going to be. And 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.600 that's how I feel like the positive impact that Dan 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.320 Quinn is gonna have on this defense. And look at 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:37.080 the guys that they drafted, edgy guys. Absolutely yes, you 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.280 can talk about all the edgy guys. They are guys 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.520 that you're want to take it to a brawl because 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.280 you know what they bring to the table. Absolutely yeah. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.120 And that's one thing about this draft that for those 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.160 Cowboys fans that are split, I mean, there's a reason 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.360 there's a split. We had it on our show. There 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.760 was a huge split between wanting Parsons and wanting somebody else. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.800 But just because you don't want a guy over another 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.800 guy doesn't mean you hate him. Because I'm not upset 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.280 with this draft by any means. I don't think Michael 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.520 Parsons is a bad pick, but if they were the 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.600 corners there I would have taken them. I would have 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.600 taken Slater. There's a lot you can do with Michael Parsons, 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.720 and if you utilize them, like you said, the right way, 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.320 even if it's not those four guys on the field 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.200 at the same time, because there's a very good chance 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.360 that they take either fifty four or fifty five off 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.600 the field, it's gonna be interesting, very good. The snaps 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.640 are dispersed and competitions what I tell you guys about 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.320 a long time ago, as far as the culture or 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:32.560 dan Quinn competition, competition, competition, you better show up or 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.440 you better bringing lunch pill every day otherwise you're gonna 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.120 be sitting next to coach. And if there's a chance 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.880 that bringing in a Michael Parsons upticks both Layton vander 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.960 Est and they step their game up, that is a 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.680 huge win for this defense because we've seen what this 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.360 defense and how they can fire on all cylinders. If 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.600 both of those guys are at the top of their game, 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.200 and that was twenty eighteen, you saw that in twenty eighteen. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.320 If both Layton vander Esh and Jalen Smith are playing 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.040 lights out football, your defense not only going to be 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.840 twenty third in the NFL, you're gonna be a top fifteen. 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.680 And you add two other guys today group exactly. You 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.160 got Jabrill Cox, you have Keiana Neil, you have Michael Parsons. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.400 There's three guys to that group that can potentially helps. 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.640 I know we're gonna go down the list here. Yeah, 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.960 but Cox, you know, very easily could have been a 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.080 second round draft pick, no doubt. And he's a He's 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.480 got a totally different skill set than Parsons, which is 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.280 really interesting to me. But count O'Neil. He's gonna play. 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.000 I mean, he is a dan Quinn guy. As long 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.760 as he's healthy, he's gonna be on the field. So 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.680 I'm very interested to see how they work around this. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.920 And I think Parsons, we've talked about it, you can play. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.040 I think you could play him with other linebackers and 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:36.920 maybe you play more bass this year because you have 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.360 more linebackers that can run and make plays and have 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.560 some speed to him. I don't know, I can't remember 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.680 who said it during the draft coverage. I mean there 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.560 were twelve hours of draft coverage, right, but somebody said it, 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.000 if if you put Jabril Cox and Michael Parsons together, 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.480 you have the perfect linebacker because I mean the size, 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.400 of the speed, and then Jabril Cox, his coverage ability 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:00.720 is pretty pretty legitimate. I feel like if he if 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.000 he dropped twenty pounds, he could play safety. Oh he 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.080 really could. I mean, he's got that type of ability, 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.560 you know, and hey, maybe that's something that they look 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.399 at into. I don't know. I don't think that's the case. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.159 And there's a lot of question marks with Cox and 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.840 I think his running ability, the ability to stop the run, 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.120 of the ability to plug gaps is what ultimately led 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.880 him to falling down draft boards. So there's holes in 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.360 his game as well, much like there's holes with Michael Parsons. 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:26.040 But those two together, yeah, I like that pairing a lot. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.879 And if moving forward, if that's your linebacker core, And 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.200 of course there's decisions coming up, one of them today 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.679 on Layton Vandersch and whether or not the Cowboys are 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.720 gonna pick up or decline his fifth year option. There's 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.520 decisions with Jalen Smith going into June first and going 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.080 into this next offseason or in this next this next season. 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.640 So if those two are your core, I mean Michael 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.640 Parsons d Bill Cox, if your linebackers I'm not necessarily 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.960 too upset about that, Rob, No, not at all, not 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:58.159 at all. And I'm just I think you know, they 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.399 were again we're gonna go down the and there was 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.000 a there was a pick in the third round where 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.440 from a value standpoint, you're kind of like, interesting, we'll 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.639 get to that. But we turn around and all that matters, 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.200 first of all is what the Cowboys thing. And the 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:13.040 Cowboys had certain guys value, maybe differently than other guys, 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.000 but I don't think there's any question that Cox was 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.719 was somebody, uh that could have been a easily an 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.960 early day two pick. And so I think when you 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:23.880 look at it, I had a feeling. I think there 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:25.320 was a vibe there that they were going to hit 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.520 this draft just hammer defense early and often, and it 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.400 does kind of heck, it goes back to the best 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:34.320 available thing. You're not always doing that because you know, 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:36.680 the odds of the of the top guy on their 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:38.840 board always be in defense or eight out of eleven 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.920 times not likely. But they made a point of look, 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.000 we got to fix this. Dan Quinn comes in. We 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.120 gotta add competition, we gotta add speed, we gotta add edge. 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.400 We got I talked, I heard more about arm length 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.879 with defensive players that I ever had. There was a 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.560 ton of arm length in this draft. Yeah. They hit 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.120 all of those things and gave dan Quinn some some 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:01.280 something to work with. Isaiah. They kind of fit that, 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.760 fit that mold. They want the tall, fast guys for 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.960 dan Quinn and they didn't really fear from that. All 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.600 fast and competitive. I talked about it. You know. The 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.240 main thing, the reason why I was so gung hole 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.920 on Parsons because you had to solidify your front seven, right, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:17.440 you need to him obviously, you need a couple other 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.040 instruments in there as well, but you secure your front seven. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.080 And why did I say the front seven was so important? 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.120 Because the front seven makes your secondary better, right, they 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:27.680 make your secondary better. What I knew Quinn was gonna 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:28.960 come in here and do it was get guys out 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.840