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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show, it's Hot Sharks Summer. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about some of the hottest, most amazing, most cooked

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Speaker 1: up sharks out there in nature. I love sharks. I

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Speaker 1: love you know. I think that a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: Like with Shark Week, it's like, man, look at this

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Speaker 1: killing machine with all its teeth. It can smell blood

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Speaker 1: in the water, so scary. Now we're gonna look at

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Speaker 1: the lighter side of sharks. How cute and cuddly and

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Speaker 1: possibly high on cocaine. They are discover this and more

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Speaker 1: as we answer the age old question if you have

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Speaker 1: a tummy ache, why not just get rid of your tummy? Right? Am? I? Right? Am? I? Right?

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Speaker 1: Everyone all right joining me to day is friend of

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Speaker 1: the Podcast online poet podcaster. We love them, Chris crafton Welcome.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi Katie, thanks for having.

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Speaker 1: Me, Happy to be here, Happy to have you back.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I tend to I don't know this

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Speaker 1: is kind of coincidence, but maybe it's my subconscious I

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Speaker 1: tend to have you on when I'm talking about like

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Speaker 1: weird sea creatures.

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Speaker 2: It's true. It seems like that to me because I

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Speaker 2: don't know anything about like my weird creature awareness goes

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Speaker 2: like through the floor when I'm not on this show.

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Speaker 2: So like, like the only weird creatures I'm really aware

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Speaker 2: of besides politicians is the these ones that you show me.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, this is like I've done a lot of

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Speaker 2: like I think we did frogs one time. We did frogs, right,

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Speaker 2: like amphibians, and I mean I feel like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: feel like, uh, we've done a lot of sea creatures.

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Speaker 2: But this is a really good one for me because

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Speaker 2: I used to do cocaine.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well maybe you can help us get into

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Speaker 1: sort of the mental the mind space of these sharks.

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Speaker 2: I'm so interested. Yeah, I have no idea, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: ready to go because this is like, you know, I rarely,

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Speaker 2: rarely like have a have a podcast that combines biology

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Speaker 2: with my sort of recovery.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this, you know, you know this topic isn't

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Speaker 1: this is interesting because like there, this is definitely one

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Speaker 1: of those news stories that goes viral. Right, Cocaine sharks.

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Speaker 1: It's like cocaine, yeah, combine some kind of cool animal

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Speaker 1: with cocaine and everyone gets excited. Oh yeah, Joe Rogan

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Speaker 1: talked about it. Of course, let's get into the actual

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Speaker 1: details about it, because it is actually quite interesting what

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Speaker 1: this signifies. So first the story, which is Brazilian sharp.

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Speaker 1: Those sharks are these little pointy sharks. They only grow

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Speaker 1: I think they're pretty cute. I sent you a picture of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw it. They're quite small. Yeah. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: like a cigar sized shark.

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Speaker 1: Right, like a pocket shark that you could bring around,

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Speaker 1: you know, or purse shark. It's like something that Paris

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Speaker 1: Hilton would have in her purse. That's topical, right, Paris Hilton.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 1: She's new, she's new, she's free, she's new.

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Speaker 1: So they have these cute little sharks off the coast

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Speaker 1: of Brazil have been found with cocaine in their systems.

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Speaker 1: So researchers tested the bodies of thirteen sharks that had

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Speaker 1: them were found to have cocaine in their livers and

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Speaker 1: muscle tissue. So the amount of cocaine in their systems

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Speaker 1: So cocaine exposure to fish can occur potentially from sewage.

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Speaker 1: So if you take cocaine and then you poop, like,

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Speaker 1: some of the cocaine could get in the sewage and

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Speaker 1: then that could contaminate the ocean. But most of the

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Speaker 2: Now wait a minute, though, so so like, why what

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Speaker 1: So that's that. Yeah, that's very interesting because these sharks

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Speaker 1: I think they may have specifically been looking into cocaine

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Speaker 2: Sure, they're getting a pretty wide sample of lots of

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Speaker 2: different animals in that one shark in a.

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Speaker 1: Way, yeah, in a way exactly.

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Speaker 2: So you say shark, Did you say shark nose shark.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I was okay, I was wondering that.

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Speaker 1: Would that sounds the thing that you said kind of

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Speaker 1: sounds like a weird insult, like your shark nose shark,

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Speaker 1: That's why I was asking, no, shark nose, shark, because

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Speaker 2: It looks like a toy shark. Looks like a toy shark.

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Speaker 1: It does it does? I think they're so cute.

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Speaker 1: Ye, cigar shark, cigar shark shark.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, something like that, like a pocket shark you've said,

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Speaker 2: So it's a very like cute. I also wonder, like,

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Speaker 2: getting bitten by that shark's pie is still not that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably wouldn't bite you because it's probably pretty shy,

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Speaker 1: but if it did bite you'd probably be it probably hurt,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just that's small.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't know that.

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Speaker 2: So now I'm like afraid of those two.

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Speaker 1: That they're gonna come up in just whatever. It's something

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Speaker 2: They might be more yeah, harder to see coming.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it'll be okay. I don't I

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Speaker 2: These, Like, but Katie, what about if they're on cocaine,

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Speaker 1: Right exactly, this is the this is the concern. Right,

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Speaker 1: the impacts of the cocaine on these sharks is not known. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: so sharp nose sharks, these little sharks minis, these cigar

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Speaker 1: to interfere with their indocurren system, which regulates their hormones.

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Speaker 1: It may also interfere with egg production. It could threaten

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Speaker 2: Probably also make it probably also makes their taste and

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Speaker 1: What's what's the worst band? Do you think that these

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know body music, right, that's what I

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Speaker 1: It's like like they have a playlist of twenty edium

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And they used to listen to like, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: Everyone's about her now sure so some of the la

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Speaker 4: we're listening to Chappelle whoever you said, And now they're

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Speaker 1: Technically the exact same what seems like the exact same

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And they stay up late and smoke cigarettes and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Their houses are very clean.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. They won't shut up, and they have no friends.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well so it is u Also, because they are

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Speaker 2: People eat those little sharks, huh.

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Speaker 2: But with in Brazil.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brazil like comedy clubs, got like a two shark

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Speaker 2: yeah minimum. But so this reminds me of the trout

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Speaker 2: that have zoloft in them, or you know, there's also

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, I mean that kind of makes sense if

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Speaker 1: you're getting if they're getting condamn, if it's condamneh from wastewater. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're putting fish through a lot.

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Speaker 1: Although I feel like zoloft maybe they're just happier, right

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Speaker 1: if if the fish gets a little bit of zoloft,

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Speaker 2: cocaine could be what makes them feel. I mean because

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Speaker 2: go crazy, and then cocaine maybe makes them feel like calm. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Their systems are so different or

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Speaker 2: maybe they're not that different than ours. I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: You would know better than me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what happens if you give

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Speaker 1: a shark cocaine, Like what that does to their little brains.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like it's probably not great. Maybe it,

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Speaker 1: I mean there could be like on low doses, maybe

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Speaker 1: it makes them better at hunting. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any ethical way to study that.

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Speaker 2: No, No, you're no, Well, it's insane. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: also like a side effect of a human civilization that's

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Speaker 2: gone bonkers. There's no way there should be enough cocaine

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Speaker 1: Isn't that just a waste of product. Look, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying I'm not saying that it's good to sell drugs,

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Speaker 2: And next thing, you know, some scientists is like, why

437
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: is there so much peanut colada and these fishes?

438
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: Why are these orcas ramming these boats?

439
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh wait they're full of snops.

440
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: Oh so yeah, so now I'm not allowed to give

441
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: orcas pina coladas. Okay, thanks thought police, thank you. Any

442
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: state let me what to do?

443
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: What are we supposed what are you supposed to do?

444
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: All right?

445
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: Do?

446
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's literally nothing left, nothing to do, nothing

447
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: to do on the beach. All right, We're going to

448
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: take a quick break and when we come back, we're

449
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: going to talk about a pretty cool shark superpower. Uh

450
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: that is managed by the most smallest and most baby

451
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: of sharks. All right, Chris, So we're going to talk

452
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: about embryonic shark superpowers. We know how cool adults sharks are.

453
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: They have all these teeth, they can detect electrical signals,

454
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: they can smell blood, and they can bite pretty good.

455
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: But before sharks are born, they're very vulnerable. And so

456
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: what are they supposed to do? Well, they come with

457
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: a very sophisticated set of senses and they are able

458
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: to use these superpowered senses from within the womb, well

459
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: the external womb. These are sharks that will be in

460
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: an egg sack. So there are both sharks that give

461
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: live birth and then there are sharks that will lay

462
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: like an egg sack. It's like it kind of looks

463
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: like a leather purse, but with a shark embryo in it. Okay,

464
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: And so embryonic sharks who carry out their fetal development

465
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: in egg sacks seem to be able to detect predators

466
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: and alter their behavior accordingly. So, researchers found that the

467
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: embryos of bamboo sharks can detect electrical signals coming from predators,

468
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: and then in response, they halt their breathing and their

469
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: movement inside the egg sack.

470
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

471
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they're like, like, we think that we're so smart,

472
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: right because like when but when we're born, we spend

473
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: months just sitting there poopin ye uh. These you know,

474
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: like a lot of animals they come out of like

475
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: there's a lot of amazing feats that come out.

476
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: Already already traumatized. I thought we had corner of the

477
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: market on trauma. But it sounds like, God, damn, if

478
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: you if you were, if you were in having to

479
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: halt your breathing as an embryo because you're scared, That's

480
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: that's pretty deep. Like I wonder if I wonder if

481
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: human babies do that and they just don't know if

482
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: they did. My parents, my parents argued so much, I

483
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: must not have breathed the whole time I was in

484
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 2: the damn.

485
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no, I mean totally.

486
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: There comes dad, I can't breathe, probably most the whole

487
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: nine months.

488
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, pre natal aniety.

489
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were just arguing about the check

490
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 2: book and stuff. Yeah, I would have stopped breathing. I

491
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: mean as soon as I was out of the womb,

492
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: I stop breathing, as soon as they talked about the

493
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: check book. And I can guarantee you they were talking

494
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: about it while I was in there.

495
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I know. You either play Baby's Mozart and

496
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: help their development or you scare them and so they

497
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: come out already battle hardened.

498
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that's crazy.

499
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think it answered your question. I

500
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: kind of doubt that embryos inside a womb would respond

501
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: this way as much, because I think this has been

502
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: found in these sharks that are in egg sacks. Not

503
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: necessarily because like I said, there are sharks. There are

504
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: because they are very vulnerable because they're basically they're like

505
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: a little shark and panada. So if a if a

506
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: predator knows they're there, they can just scoop them on

507
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: up and eat them. And shark embryos actually they reach

508
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 1: a stage in their development where they start to undulate

509
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: their tails to circulate water through the permeable seals of

510
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: the egg case. Like as they get bigger, the egg case,

511
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: which was once fully sealed, actually starts to lit a

512
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: bit of water in the Sharks at this point need

513
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: to be able to breathe the oxygenated water, and so

514
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: they move their tails. They wave their tails, which helps

515
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: get the oxygenated water inside the egg sac. The downside

516
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: is that this movement and also the flow of water

517
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: from the eggsac outside allows predators to both see and

518
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: detect through chemoreceptors like basically like smell the water and

519
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: find these shark embryos, so anything from like other sharks,

520
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: large fish octopuses can then find these shark embryos and

521
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: try to eat them because again it's like a little

522
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: shark impanada. That sounds delicious, right, And so the shark

523
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: will go into this lockdown. It stops its movement, it

524
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: stops breathing. Obviously, it can only stop breathing for so long,

525
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: so then it has to breathe again. It tries to

526
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: breathe like very sort of slowly. But yeah, it's this

527
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: is kind of a later yeah crazy, yeah, and it's instinctive, right,

528
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: like this is this is an instinct It's interesting because

529
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: human babies are actually born with some instincts. Like I'm

530
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: not saying you should do any of this to a baby,

531
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: not a good idea, but if you dunk them in water,

532
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: they'll instinctively close their eyes and sort of close off,

533
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: like stop breathing, so they don't inhale water if they

534
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: if they're they are actually born with a grip strong

535
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: enough to like hang on to say, like a rope

536
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: or to essentially like what used to be the cases

537
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: that with our ancestors, these primates, like the babies would

538
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: have to be born and like hang on to their

539
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: mother's fur, and so babies actually have this very like

540
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: strong grip even with their feet where they can like

541
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: instinctively hang onto things. So yeah, so like newborn human

542
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: babies do come with some instincts that are meant to

543
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: help them survive, these sharks are just doing sort of

544
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: like what's that guy's name, Matt Damon. You know who's Matt.

545
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: He's in that movie where Matt Damon gets a bunch

546
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: of passports and he's in the water and they're like

547
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: they think he's dead. Matt Damon. Matt Damon, and he's

548
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: a spy and they're like, look.

549
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: It's not Jack Reacher.

550
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: It's not Jack Reacher. I kept thinking Jack Reacher. But

551
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: it's not Jack Reachcher. It's the other guy, Matt Damon.

552
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: I think he's just named his regular name. It's just

553
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: it's just.

554
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: Called Matt Damon, Matt Damon, the super spy, Matt.

555
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: Damon with a bunch of passports, right right.

556
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, wow, are you Matt Damon And

557
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: he's like, don't shut up, no, I'm.

558
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: Born Matthew Bourne.

559
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: Isn't that Matthew the born Ultimate. It's born Ultimatum. His

560
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: name is mister Ultimatum and mister or identity more an

561
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: identity born Ultimatum Penultimate born.

562
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah. So anyway, so that guy who was

563
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: called that guy who's called Fast and the Furious, right.

564
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: It's like these baby sharks, like these sharks because like

565
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: you remember how mister Bourne was. He was in the

566
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: water and it's like, oh, he's dead, don't worry about

567
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: it because he's not breathing, and then the camera lingers

568
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: and it's like nope, he swims away. That's what these

569
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: embryonic sharks are doing.

570
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I mean, that is really I mean the

571
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: amount of mystery that we ignore on a day to

572
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: day basis to to you know, post on Instagram is unbelievable.

573
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: I mean, that is unbelievable. There's some shark, Like it's

574
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: crazy enough that the shark, baby shark knows how to

575
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: stop breathing for a little bit, but then when it restarts,

576
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: it breathes more shallowly. I mean that is so such

577
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: deep programming. Yeah, and really I just think it's kind

578
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: of amazing how uh we tune out like on a

579
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: regular basis pretty much the whole ocean.

580
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: Just go about our put down your phones and just

581
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: go into the ocean and take a look around. But

582
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: don't drop your cocaine in there.

583
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: Plus, the ocean is full of free cocaine. That would

584
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: be like a selling point.

585
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: Down your phone, people, get out like a sieve, right

586
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: and start we got to get a gold rush, but

587
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: for cocaine.

588
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, panning for cocaine.

589
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: Help the fish and yourself, right, make a tidy little profit.

590
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: Don't sell drugs. My lawyers advise me to say.

591
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: But put on some techno on some water in.

592
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: The medium will sound actually like music. It's amazing. It's

593
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: a miracle.

594
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so so yeah, yeah, this is like pretty incredible,

595
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: and I think it's probably healthy to think about how

596
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: complicated and interesting things are besides us.

597
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. I feel like sometimes it's just like it's animals.

598
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: They're simple because they don't they can't speak English or

599
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: any other language really, and you know that's just not

600
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: the case. They've got their whole little systems going on. Here.

601
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: I picture a bowling bag, a bowling bag with a

602
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: little shark in it. Yeah, but it's kind of see

603
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: through m yeah.

604
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the animal comes, animal comes up or whatever,

605
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: the shark. Yeah, so the shark. It's like, is this

606
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: a bowling bag? I must be, because it's not breathing

607
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: right exactly?

608
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it go gurt? Or is it a bowling bag?

609
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: Only one of these I can slurp up.

610
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to say the dumbest thing ever. So this

611
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: is just as this is easily you can cut this out.

612
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 2: But but so imagine that the also, the predator is

613
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: going to be less patient because it's on cocaine and

614
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: is not gonna give the right amount of inspection. Not

615
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: it's not gonna inspect this exact nearly as carefully as

616
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: it normally would.

617
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be Yeah, it's gonna be hard to

618
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: have that attention spam.

619
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: So good news for shark embryos.

620
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Right, maybe the cocaine will help the shark embryos. Who's

621
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: to say, right, nobody knows.

622
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: Who knows what's gonna happen. You give cocaine to a walrus,

623
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. He's probably trying to go to town

624
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: and put pants on and meet.

625
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: That's just doctor Phil at that point.

626
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: Oh, I wish I had a bell, the ring or something.

627
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: Spam take that got him, got him, that doctor Phil

628
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: got him. He will not be able to recover from that.

629
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break and when we get back,

630
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about sharks who do this one cool

631
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: trick that doctors. Hey, all right, so sharks have a

632
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: cool party trick, which is that they can throw up

633
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: their own stomach.

634
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

635
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so sharks. Yeah, it's kind of gross.

636
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: That's disgusting.

637
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: Listen, man, we don't need your judgments on these sharks

638
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: averting their stomachs.

639
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: Well, others think it's hot.

640
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly. This is like, this is you know,

641
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: perhaps a form of flirtation. It's definitely like showing your

642
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: what's inside of you, right, which is what happens when

643
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: you get to know someone.

644
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like shar.

645
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: Shark torking exactly. So sharks can eject their stomachs and

646
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: dump out their food and then swallow their stomachs back in.

647
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

648
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: So you know how like I don't know, you can

649
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: push a balloon inside out or there are those toys

650
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: sometimes where they have like like it's a little squeezy toy, right,

651
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: and they have like a little little balloon inside and

652
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: you squeeze it and the balloon kind of like pops

653
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: out of their mouth but then sucks it back in

654
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: when you stop squeezing them.

655
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes I do, I know exactly what we're talking.

656
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little squezy toys. It's just like that. So

657
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: they can like push their stomach out of their mouth

658
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: and then suck it back in, uh with seemingly no

659
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: ill effects. So in Caribbean reef sharks, uh that aversion

660
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: and retraction of the stomach. Uh, they are able to

661
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: do in less than a second. In a fraction of

662
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: a second, just like basically like beebooph Yeah, just real. Why, Well,

663
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: the idea is that it may be a way to

664
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: clean their stomach of parasites, indigestible particles, or excess mucus.

665
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: So you know, essentially, like they got a stomach ache,

666
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: well they're just going to rinse their stomachs out right, like, well,

667
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: this stomach needs a little bit of a rense mm hmm.

668
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes yeah sounds nice.

669
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I have stomach issues sometimes, like gastc reflux,

670
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: and if I could just, you know, I don't know,

671
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: just like real quick, like give that stomach just a

672
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: little rinse off, you know, rinse it out, second back in,

673
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: and then have everything be fine again, that'd be nice.

674
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to be nice.

675
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that because I'm not a

676
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: shark and I would possibly die trying that.

677
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it would be yeah, I mean that would

678
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: be Then you'd have to do it on your own

679
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: because if you try to do that around other people,

680
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: they'd yeah, I'm set.

681
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: But imagine if it was normal, right and you're just

682
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: at the restaurant someone just basically has a little hiccup

683
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: where their whole stomach comes out, some risotto plops back

684
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: on the table. You know, it'd be a whole different

685
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: society that we'd be living in.

686
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah be uh yeah, be like that would be really rough.

687
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe it would be good used

688
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: to it, it wouldn't matter.

689
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as the first when that evolved, like the

690
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: first couple of people who did it would probably be

691
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: shun shunned.

692
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be but posthumously being be remembered as innovators.

693
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Right but yeah, so so uh this is I mean

694
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: within you know, relatively recently that where this has actually

695
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: been documented. Well, but like because often there have been

696
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: a lot of cases of sharks like pushing their stomachs

697
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: out of their mouths, but usually it's sharks that get

698
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: caught by fishermen. So clearly this is like a stress response.

699
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: I know the fact that they do this when they're

700
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: not obviously distressed, but just do it really quickly, seemingly

701
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: to just cure maybe a tummy ache or to clean

702
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: like maybe it's just routine cleaning, right, Like maybe it's

703
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: like brushing their teeth. I don't know, because like they

704
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: do the really quickly. You can do it in like

705
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: a fraction of a second. I have included some photos

706
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: of sharks doing this, but yeah, it's essentially just like

707
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: a little balloon comes out of their mouth and then

708
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: goes back in. You can barely see it.

709
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: I'm looking right now, Oh I see, yeah, oh yeah.

710
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 1: Just kind of just like blowing a bubble with some

711
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: kind of gray bubblegum.

712
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: I never had heard of that. I never would have

713
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: known that in a million years. Really crazy.

714
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be honest, like researchers don't know one hundred

715
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: percent why they do it, but the leading theory is

716
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: just like the stomach cleaning thing, and the reason they

717
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: do it so quickly is probably just for safety, right,

718
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Like you don't want someone to come up and take

719
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: a bite out of your stomach while it's dangling out.

720
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, no, yeah, that'd be bad.

721
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, so because they do it so quickly fraction

722
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: of a second, that seems to make it, you know,

723
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: like a safe activity for them to just give everything

724
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: a good rent out.

725
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

726
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: Have you ever like maybe this is just me, but like,

727
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: have you ever had something where it's like you have

728
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: some pain in some organ, maybe it's spine pain or

729
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: like stomach hurts or whatever, And I just think about

730
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: how nice it would be if I could just like

731
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: pluck out that body part just kind of like get

732
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: it in shape, Like especially when I have a back ache.

733
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: It's like I think, like, what if there was a

734
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: device I could just pull my spine out completely, you know,

735
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: put everything back into place, and then put it right

736
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: back in my back.

737
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 2: That would be nice.

738
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: That would be so nice.

739
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to deal with external everything's external with us,

740
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: so we have to like we're stuck putting cream on

741
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 2: I guess the closest we god is like a Vapo rub.

742
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: Vapo rub. Yeah, it's not very good. You know what

743
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: I've been I think I already brought this up on

744
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: another episode, but sorry, guys, I'm bringing it up again.

745
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: I've been drinking essentially glorified pond scum for my tummy

746
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: eggs because it's like sodium aalgenate, which is like an

747
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: algae derived substance which is supposed to help with gastric reflux.

748
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, it really is like vanilla flavored pond scum.

749
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: So you know, look, am I so different from these sharks?

750
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: Apparently not? Where did you get this pond scum? Who

751
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: told you about that? Because I'm down with, like, I

752
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: like that kind of stuff, Like I just don't know

753
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: what you know, Like anytime anyone introduces me into into

754
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: some kind of thing that tastes really bad that's supposed

755
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: to be good for me, Like I get pretty into it.

756
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Like I don't mind if it's pond scum, if it's

757
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: supposed to be the good for you.

758
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: This tastes fine. It's not literal pond scum, and I

759
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: would encourage you not to drink literal pond scum. It's

760
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: just that it is sodium alginate, which is like a

761
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: goo derived from algae, and then you know, they process

762
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: it so it's it's essentially it's god. Yeah, it's a

763
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: viscus goo.

764
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: They take all the cocaine and zolof Yeah, you don't

765
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: want to just have straight days now, No, there's way

766
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: too You'll end you'll end up at a rave.

767
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: All right. Well, before we go, we got to play

768
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: a little game called Guests Who Squawk in the Mystery

769
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Antal Sound game. Every week I play Mystery Antal Sound.

770
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: I remember, Yeah, you the listener and you the guests

771
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: try to get remember who is who is making that sound? Chris?

772
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: I know you remember, But what if someone else out there?

773
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: What if this is the first time someone is listening

774
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: to this podcast. First of all, welcome, Hello. I'm sorry

775
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: you started on the Sharks are doing cocaine episode. Or

776
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: maybe I'm not sorry. Maybe it's a good thing. Anyways,

777
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: this week's hint was this, You're not gonna find this

778
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: hen on the farm, and it'll make this call till

779
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: it's red in the face. All right, did you hear

780
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: the little clucking sound?

781
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: I heard it.

782
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: Well, any got any guesses as to what is making

783
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: the sound?

784
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: I think it's a chihuahua.

785
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: You know that is a very good guess. This is

786
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: essentially the chihuahua of fresh water bodies of fresh water.

787
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: This is the more hen, also known as a swamp hen.

788
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: It is actually not related to chickens as well. It

789
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: is a an aquatic bird. They are a member of

790
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: the rail family. They are related to coots. Have you

791
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: ever seen a coot?

792
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

793
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: Well, these more hens kind of look like a coot,

794
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: and if you've never seen a they're like a well

795
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: you could also just look up more hen, but either

796
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: way that's true.

797
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: Why am I looking for the secondary more hen?

798
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: M oh oh r h e n okay more han?

799
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, so like oh, Yeah, look at them.

800
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: I've seen these.

801
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: You heard of these, You've seen these.

802
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: I've never seen them, but they're pretty.

803
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are pretty beak. Yeah, they've got like a

804
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: red bill with a yellow tip. They've got black feathers

805
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: with white tips. Instead of having webbed feet like a

806
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: duck would have, more hens actually have disconnected toes. Each

807
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: toe is pretty thick and long, which allows it to

808
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: both paddle and to walk on marshy, bumpy terrain with ease. Yeah.

809
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: And they are not at all related to hens. Uh.

810
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Their name originally meant bird of the marshes more hen. Yes,

811
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: not not a hen, not a chicken, but a chicken

812
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: of the swamp.

813
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: So they've tested them. They're loaded loaded.

814
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: With d just constantly on ecstasy.

815
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty bird.

816
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: It's very pretty.

817
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I never seen that.

818
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: I actually saw a couple. We have a few of them,

819
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: quite a few of them up here in northern Italy.

820
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: They are even though there are different species that are

821
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: found all over the world, we have have some that

822
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: are here. Uh. And they had some babies. It was

823
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: very cute. The babies were sitting on there was like

824
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: a paddle boat, you know, one of these like tiny

825
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: boats and no one was in it. But then the

826
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: babies were kind of sitting on it, and the babies

827
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: were very cute. They're very scru scrungely looking. I know

828
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: that's not quite a word, but you know what a

829
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: scrungely looking little bird is, right, like those babies where

830
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: not all the feathers are in, so they're just kind

831
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: of scruffy. Yeah, they're very cute. I like them, all right.

832
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: Onto this week's mister animal sound. The hints is this

833
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: don't talk with your mouth full, m all right, any

834
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: guesses dressed?

835
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that sounds like sounds like Mitch McConnell.

836
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: Uh uh, how you get it?

837
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: I think that's Mitch McConnell in a a in shallow water.

838
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

839
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what the heck that is. That's amazing sounding, though.

840
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: It reminds me of I don't know if you heard

841
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: about this, Katie, but this is something you This is

842
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: along the lines of like novelty animal stories like cocaine

843
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: and sharks. But uh, that that duc that's supposed to

844
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: have said you bloody fool? Heard about that.

845
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: There's a duck that said you bloody fool.

846
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: Yes, And then and they've recorded this duck and it

847
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: says it sounds just like it sounds just it's a

848
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: musk duck, and it sounds just like that thing you

849
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: just played, except this person. I mean, I don't think

850
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: this duck is saying you bloody fool.

851
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Oh there it is, is that it?

852
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: Oh, No, as.

853
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: I'm about to I'm about to play this sound though

854
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: it's an Australian duck, so.

855
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: It goes you bluddy. Yeah, it just goes you boody fool,

856
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: who bloody fool? And and and and and it does

857
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: sort of look sound like that, but but it's like, uh,

858
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: and they said it's because the caretaker says that a

859
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: lot who lives near the pond. Anyway, it's just it's

860
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: a great story. It was like it was like, it's

861
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: it's really fun to listen.

862
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: I found it. I found it good.

863
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: Oh it's so great.

864
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's incredible. Oh my god, that's still

865
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: so bad. I don't think I mean, this is from

866
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: the Telegraph. I don't think this is. I'm I'm credulous, right,

867
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: or yeah, I'm credulous because I think that. I mean,

868
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: birds do learn calls by listening to their their parents

869
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: or two other birds. So if you have a bird

870
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: who is capable of learning and mimicking certain sounds, I yeah,

871
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Speaker 1: I did not realize that you said that. Yeah, it's

872
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: a musk duck. Yeah, that's so interesting.

873
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: It's like.

874
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: It's so weird.

875
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: I also just am like, I want to know how often?

876
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to know who this caretaker is.

877
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: I want to know why upon how a caretaker? And

878
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: I also want to know how often does this guy

879
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: say you bloody fool that a musk duck would start saying.

880
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: He was saying it because.

881
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: People like me go to these ponds trying to get

882
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: the pond scum to make our tommies feel better, and

883
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: they're always chasing us off, going like, you bloody fool.

884
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: You can't just be pond scum. You gotta get it

885
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: from your pharmacy. Okay, I'm gonna see musk duck call Katie.

886
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: There's a There's a hidden part of this story too,

887
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: which is which really kind of to me made it

888
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 2: less believable, is that they said that the musk duck,

889
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: in addition to saying you bloody fool, can make a

890
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: slamming sound that sounds like a door slamming, and that's

891
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: included in some news reports about that story. They'll play that,

892
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: they play that recording and then there's this bang bang

893
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: bang sound that you're like, which.

894
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: Is like, I mean, there are there are certain birds

895
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: that can mimic sounds, right, Like I guess.

896
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: A door closing though it was like a slamming door

897
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 2: sound's a musk duck.

898
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: There are there are birds that can mimic like say

899
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: chainsaw or camera shutters. So it's all right, I'm not

900
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: saying it's I have not had time to completely fact

901
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: check this. I will. I'll look into it and report.

902
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: My question for you as an expert, Why aren't musk

903
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 2: ducks then more famous than they are, Like musk dust

904
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 2: ducks should have a great career going he talks about,

905
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: I've never even heard of them.

906
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: People don't even know that. Like crows and ravens can talk,

907
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: but they can.

908
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 2: Do you have any crows that hang out with you?

909
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: No, sadly, we've got hooded crows here. I don't. I

910
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: haven't made any friends with any of them. I should

911
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 1: probably leave you. I haven't. I haven't feed I have

912
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: not been feeding them because I'm worried that if I

913
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: start leaving out peanuts. The pigeons who are already here

914
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: are just gonna descend it all like every morning, wake

915
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: up to a bunch of pigeons. People are very Here's

916
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: like a regular Here is what I think is a

917
00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: normal musk duck call see different? Right?

918
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: Oh that thing?

919
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: Well, they have like a really interesting wattle too. These

920
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: are these are wild, Chris. I've got to do an

921
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: episode on these now. Thank you for bringing this to

922
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: my attention.

923
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 2: Sure, it's one of my favorite things I love. I

924
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: love cryptos zoology stuff just because I like the I

925
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: love how the quality the recordings are too. I just

926
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: like I like when people get like bad, you know,

927
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: like they had to like sneak up and like the

928
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: sound is kind of bad, and I like, uh, yeah,

929
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 2: I like that whole mystery aspect of it. But yeah,

930
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: it's an interesting story.

931
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess we got we gotta I gotta

932
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: investigate because I actually think this, This seems like this

933
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: is real and that's amazing and add add it to

934
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: the list of birds that can, in very creepy ways

935
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: imitate us and mock us.

936
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: Also, I want to say, like that is so interesting

937
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: to bring up the pigeon crow thing because people are

938
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 2: very happy to have to be friends with a crow,

939
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: but they are not nearly as happy to be friends

940
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: with like I don't know twenty five pigeons.

941
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the number of them, right, Like I like,

942
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: if it was one pigeon, I would be like, yeah,

943
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: we're cool. When it's twenty five of them, all greedily

944
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: staring at me, it's like, I'm now, this is no

945
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: longer a sort of like friendship. This is a shakedown.

946
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: Pigeons are just crows on cocaine.

947
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: Wise are words never spoken. So Chris, thank you so

948
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: much for coming on. Where can people find you?

949
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 2: You can find me on my podcast Cold Brew Got

950
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: Me like, or you can find me in my book,

951
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: The Advice King Anthology that's available everywhere, and I don't

952
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: care where you get it. You can get it from

953
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Speaker 2: evil empires like Amazon. It's fine with me. And I

954
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: have a record called Hello It's Me that came out

955
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen that got a seven point four from

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Speaker 2: Pitchfork and you can listen to that on all the

957
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: streaming services and things. And I got a new one

958
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: coming out this fall or winter and then and then

959
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: you can watch me on them, watch me on at

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00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: the at the Crafted Show on Instagram.

961
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: Or Twitter, or you can be perceived upon these platforms. Yes, well,

962
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on, and thank you

963
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: guys for listening. And thank you to the Space Classics

964
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Speaker 1: for their super awesome song XO Lumina, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for them to the musk Duck for uh learning to

966
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: speak people very exciting exetting news there. Uh. Creature Feature

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Speaker 1: Wait before I do that? Oh yeah, I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta send me email if you know

971
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: what you think the mystery animal sound is right, the

972
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: one that was going like, Send me an email at

973
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com. You can also

974
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: send me your questions. I will try my best to

975
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: answer all the questions I get, sometimes just through email,

976
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: and sometimes I do a listener questions episode, All right,

977
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: where was I? Hi? Heard a radio app? Apple podcast?

978
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: Or hey guess what? Where have you listened to your

979
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: favorite shows? I don't care. I'm not your mother and

980
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what to do. You gotta go

981
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: live your own life. Don't drink pondscum, though not directly

982
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: from a pond. Get it from a pharmacy. Ah, just

983
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: go up to that pharmacist and say, miss your give

984
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: me your finest podcast, your finest pond scum man. That

985
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: says a lot about what I think about my own

986
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: Give me your finest podcast about ponsgum, which I guess

987
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: is this one. All right, guys, see you next Wednesday.

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00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: Thanks Katie,