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Speaker 1: Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Pay there and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heeart Radio

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Speaker 1: and how the tech are you. It's time for a

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Speaker 1: tech Stuff Tidbits Spooky edition. Today we're going to look

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Speaker 1: at the spooky world of them buyer power. Which by

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Speaker 1: that I don't mean being able to turn into a

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Speaker 1: bat or a wolf or missed. We're being able to

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Speaker 1: hypnotize victims. We're not going to talk about being able

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Speaker 1: to enter a building only after being invited. No, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about electronics here. But it's also sometimes called pandom

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Speaker 1: energy spooky. All right, let's um, we'll sweep aside the

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Speaker 1: late night hard TV show post gimmick. I know it

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Speaker 1: was cringe, E I know I did it on purpose.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me how cringe it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a it was a choice. So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about vampire power. Basically, that term refers to the tendency

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Speaker 1: for plug in electronic devices to continue to leach electricity

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Speaker 1: even when those devices are turned off or in a

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Speaker 1: sleep mode. So, for example, let's say you've plugged in

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Speaker 1: a cell phone charger and you just you plugged it

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Speaker 1: into the wall and you just leave the charger plugged

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Speaker 1: in all the time. So when your smartphone needs to recharge,

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Speaker 1: you take the USB side and you plug it into

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Speaker 1: your smartphone and or the lightning side if you're using

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Speaker 1: an iPhone, and then when you're done, you unplug the

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Speaker 1: cable from your smartphone, but you leave the charger plugged

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Speaker 1: into the wall. Well, that charger actually continues to drain

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Speaker 1: electricity all the time when it's plugged in. Uh if

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Speaker 1: you touch a charger and it's warm, that means that

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Speaker 1: it's been consuming electricity and that electricity has been converted

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Speaker 1: into waste heat even though nothing has been plugged into

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Speaker 1: that cable to recharge. That's vampire power. Now, in some cases,

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Speaker 1: this whole vampire power thing, it's not a bug. It's

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Speaker 1: a feature. By that, I mean it's part of standby

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Speaker 1: mode or standby power. This is what keeps certain devices

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Speaker 1: like cable boxes, uh TVs, video game systems, computers. It

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Speaker 1: keeps them ready to come on to full power with

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Speaker 1: as little delay as possible. The devices remain in a

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Speaker 1: that when it does come time to use them. They're

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Speaker 1: ady to spring into action with as little delay as

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Speaker 1: can be created, and that way you don't have a

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Speaker 1: slower powering up sequence frustrating your consumers. Now, way back

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Speaker 1: in the bad old days, I remember having a TV

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Speaker 1: was an old black and white television that we had,

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Speaker 1: and it was old even when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: right Like, this was not a brand new TV. Color

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Speaker 1: TV was definitely around in the seventies, y'all. We had

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Speaker 1: a color TV. It's just this was an extra one,

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Speaker 1: like a smaller black and white TV that we happened

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Speaker 1: I don't remember really watching much on it, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would turn the power on and then slowly, you know,

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Speaker 1: gradually the image would take shape on the screen, and

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Speaker 1: But you skip ahead and now we've got all these

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Speaker 1: and that's hard to deliver upon. So to meet that expectation,

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Speaker 1: find that they actually cost more collectively on the times

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Speaker 1: So in most cases, the amount of electricity these devices

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Speaker 1: for other devices it is remarkably different. Like it's a

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Speaker 1: massive difference. Um, But you know, you're only using these

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Speaker 1: like you're not running your microwave all day. I hope

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Speaker 1: that would be bad. Microwaves are designed to heat food

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Speaker 1: a tiny sliver, and yet it can pull more electricity

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Speaker 1: when it's off collectively than when it's on. Now, in

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Speaker 1: the case of micro is, by the way, it's not

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Speaker 1: so much that that devices in standby mode as it

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Speaker 1: requires electricity to power what are called background functions, you know,

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Speaker 1: as you would imagine, a lot of wasted electricity, a

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Speaker 1: actually going to power anything actively, like it's not an

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Speaker 1: hefty electricity bills, or at least inflated electricity bills. So

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Speaker 1: Stuff to Blew Your Mind, he wrote an article way

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Speaker 1: back in the house stuff works days about vampire power. Uh.

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Speaker 1: DC dot org submits that today it's much much worse

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Speaker 1: other sources that have even higher estimates. Now, granted, these

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Speaker 1: So you have to keep that in mind. These are estimates.

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Speaker 1: even if your average bill isn't that high, a significant

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Speaker 1: at least some of that electricity depending on where you're at,

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Speaker 1: it potentially is also causing an environmental issue. Now, granted,

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Speaker 1: Those would include things like set top boxes. The king

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Speaker 1: in closer to twenty two dollars of vampire power per year.

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