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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Ye,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Drive on Dal Lolly here with

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. It is Wednesday. It is the start of

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Speaker 1: the new league here and the new year. YEA happy

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Speaker 1: new year. Uh. And though we've seen uh, some announcements

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Speaker 1: of agreements on contracts, they haven't been signed yet, they

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Speaker 1: become official. They became official today at four o'clock. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean there's nothing left on the free agent And

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Speaker 1: once in a while those deals don't quite go through

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Speaker 1: to guys, guys will actually take physicals. Yeah, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: so once in a while it doesn't all go as plan.

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Speaker 1: But we know where a lot of the first wave

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Speaker 1: is going. But there's stuff out there, there's value. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna run down the list of centers here. The

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Speaker 1: Steelers could do a couple of positions. Yeah, we'll do.

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Speaker 1: We'll look at a few positions about what we would

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Speaker 1: right at the center position. David Andrews, he's not I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a patriot. They just signed Cares.

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Speaker 1: I would have interested. Yeah, he's projected. I'm looking here

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Speaker 1: at pro Football Focused. They're projecting the contracts three years

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Speaker 1: at a six million dollar average. Okay, that seems fair,

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Speaker 1: but maybe three days from now it's five million from

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Speaker 1: you know what, you know, Austin writer, I have interest,

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Speaker 1: but I think i'd go aim a little higher. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: His contract average, according to Football Focused, two years, four

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Speaker 1: point seven million, a little better in protection than Pyle

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Speaker 1: Mover type. But he's a he's a good young player.

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Speaker 1: Alex Max still unsigned. He signed actually with the Niners today, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, him and Trent Williams the Niners, which

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams got a ridiculous So he's never going to

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Speaker 1: see it, like the people are reporting that as the

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Speaker 1: largest offensive lines contract signed in history. But he's never

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Speaker 1: going to see all that money. One of its six

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Speaker 1: years down the road. He's not gonna he's thirty three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. I think he's the best tackle in the league,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but that doesn't matter five

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Speaker 1: years down the road. Uh. Nick Martin, his projector his

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Speaker 1: projected contract two years four point to five million, can

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Speaker 1: also play guard. But I mean that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: these guys can. But if you're signing one. You're looking

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Speaker 1: at him to be a better than Finny Center. We

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Speaker 1: mentioned Ted Carriss in a previous segment. Uh, they estimated

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Speaker 1: his contract would come into two years or four point

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Speaker 1: to five million dollars. He got four. He got four

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Speaker 1: with with New England, so fair enough. What's nice about this,

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Speaker 1: and it's very very Steeler esque, is you're naming a

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Speaker 1: lot of centers and there's more to come. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not even sure if Rodney hussins on that. He's not

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Speaker 1: not that many spots. There's not that any teams, any

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Speaker 1: on the film with him. But the others, I'll wait

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Speaker 1: and see if two of them fall and then whoever

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Speaker 1: signed musical chairs at this point exactly for positions like this, right,

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Speaker 1: like if it's a guard or it's a tackle, they're

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Speaker 1: getting scooped up. The you know, they got sixty four jobs, right,

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Speaker 1: even white outs. I know they're not falling fast. But

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Speaker 1: like quarterback here, and some of them, if they're backup,

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Speaker 1: only one guy on the team can get hurt for

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Speaker 1: I mean. So that's a tough situation. Ethan post from

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Speaker 1: Austin Blaite, okay, a little on the small side. Ben Garland,

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Speaker 1: We've talked about him in the past. There's familiarity there.

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Speaker 1: Trey Burton he's more finessious too. Yeah, he's too forty.

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Speaker 1: a perfect example the one year rental, your draft one.

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Speaker 1: Richard Brodgers two years at one point seven five million. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Dizzo GILARI. No, No, there's a whole bunch of linement,

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Speaker 1: Leonard Williams just signed Davlin Thomas and you signed Shelby Harris.

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Speaker 1: Lulu wasn't a true nose. He's just putting three athletes

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