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Speaker 4: It's hard to keep track of all of it.

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Speaker 3: We'll update you on some of these stories, but this

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Speaker 3: story certainly caught my attention. Three students at the Beverly

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Speaker 3: Cress based Harvard Westlake School have committed suicide in the

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Speaker 3: past seven months now. That's an astonishing number for a

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Speaker 3: student population of sixteen hundred. First last spring, a young

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Speaker 3: girl at Harvard Westlakes junior class. A few months later,

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Speaker 3: a senior boy shot himself and a third a junior,

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Speaker 3: killed himself just after school broke for the summer, and

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Speaker 3: one of the people at the school said, it's tragic

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Speaker 3: but not terribly surprising that students are feeling pressured from

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Speaker 3: academic expectations and this whole La lifestyle, you know, a

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Speaker 3: Harvard Westlakes, very upscale place. I think tuition is around

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Speaker 3: forty six almost forty seven thousand dollars a year. But

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Speaker 3: the economic issues are irrelevant really when it comes to this,

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Speaker 3: because we're seeing that this is a national trend and

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Speaker 3: an alarming trend. According to the CDC, an estimated forty

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Speaker 3: nine thousand, four hundred and forty nine people died by

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Speaker 3: suicide in the US last year, up two point six

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Speaker 3: To talk to us about why is this happening? We're

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Speaker 3: seeing so much self destruction. It's a pleasure to welcome

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Speaker 3: for the National Action Alliance for Suicide Prevention, Sarah Brummitt.

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Speaker 4: Sarah, how are you. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 5: I'm good. Thanks for having me on. Doug appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: This is unthinkable for a lot of people. But that's

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Speaker 3: where we go wrong because tragically, a lot of people

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Speaker 3: that I mean, millions of people have certainly suicidal thoughts,

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Speaker 3: and people act out on this, and then frequently it's

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Speaker 3: dismissed as quote unquote, you know, attention grabbing, or we

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Speaker 3: have all kinds of negative ways we frame this. But

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Speaker 3: the reality is we have almost fifty thousand people last

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Speaker 3: year who actually killed themselves.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and thanks for highlighting this really important aspect that

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Speaker 5: it's really important to frame how we're talking about this

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Speaker 5: topic because as you said, you know, millions of Americans

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Speaker 5: have thoughts of suicide each and every year, and even more,

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Speaker 5: you know, have survived the suicide attempt. And the data

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Speaker 5: also tells us that the vast majority of folks who

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Speaker 5: by suicide. So it's really important that when we're talking

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Speaker 5: about these very real tragedies that are happening in our communities,

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Speaker 5: we don't lose sight of the full continuum of how

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Speaker 5: suicide can impact us, and that there is you know,

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Speaker 5: hope and support for folks that are that are in

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Speaker 3: And it seems like there are so many cultural forces

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Speaker 3: But what's different is it's in our face twenty four

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Speaker 3: it leads of negativity that I actually and this is

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Speaker 3: we've conditioned, especially the young people. When you read about

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Speaker 4: Our young people that life is hopeless.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you are touching on a lot of

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Speaker 5: And many of those are outside of our controls just

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Speaker 5: making sure that we don't turn a blind eye to

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Speaker 5: what these losses represent, and that we take it as

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Speaker 5: a call to action to roll up our sleeves and

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Speaker 5: offer folks that ray of light when things are feeling really,

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Speaker 3: We're talking about Sarah Brummt on the Executive Committee of

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Speaker 3: the National Action Alliance for Suicide Prevention. I've got a

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Speaker 4: But the bottom.

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Speaker 3: Line is is that we are anesthetizing ourselves and that's

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Speaker 3: that certainly reads as much attention paid to it as COVID.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, picking up on that really

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Speaker 5: you know, substance use and folks engaged in that work

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Speaker 3: People forget that biochemically alcohol is a depressant. So yes,

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Speaker 3: And I want to go back to the social pressures

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Speaker 3: But there's all kinds of pressures that kids are subjected to,

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Speaker 3: rather than putting things into a context that yes, there

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know my suggestion and what a

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Speaker 3: What's the website for the National Action Alliance for Suicide Prevention.

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Speaker 5: So folks can find out more about the Action Alliance

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Speaker 5: just by googling National Action Alliance for Suicide Prevention and

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Speaker 5: seeing what a lot of our partners are up to

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Speaker 5: in the different organizations that have committed to rolling up

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Speaker 4: All Right, thanks so much for being on us.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time, Sarah Brummitt, National Action Alliance for Suicide Prevention.

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Speaker 3: The bottom line is that when somebody talks start to

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Speaker 3: Even if it turns out to be quote unquote a

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Speaker 3: and you don't want to roll the dice on that.

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Speaker 4: The consequences are too great.

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Speaker 6: And when you see and when you see these thugs

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Speaker 6: see him thrown in rough I said, please, don't be

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Speaker 6: too nice, Like when you guys put somebody in the

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Speaker 6: car and you're protecting their head, you know, the way

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Speaker 6: you put their hand of, like, don't hit their head,

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Speaker 6: and they've just killed somebody. Don't hit their head. I said,

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Speaker 6: you can take the hand away. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one was on Long Island, if I remember,

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Speaker 3: and I remember it, there was, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I may have been Connecticut. It was

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Speaker 1: a bunch of police officers. But what's interesting here is

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Speaker 1: that the police officers applauded the president of the United

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Speaker 1: States telling them to rough up suspects who've been convicted

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Speaker 1: of nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them did. I also remember seeing some

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Speaker 3: guys who were just like nervously giggling, like I don't

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Speaker 3: know that we were really supposed to do that, but

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Speaker 3: it was just an awkward moment, to say the least.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think that that's going to happen. But

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Speaker 4: and I'm also.

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Speaker 1: No, no, he's been treated with kid glove so far.

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Speaker 1: And then we'll continue this week in Georgia.

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Speaker 3: All right, Andy, thanks so much for being with us,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. We're all going to be watching that circus

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Speaker 3: as it pulls into town.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to John and ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 2: AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: Doug mcatar in for Johnny Kenry here till four when

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Speaker 3: Conway comes along, and very busy three o'clock hour. John

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Speaker 3: Cappell of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, he's on them.

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Speaker 3: He's always watching Sacramento as they try to subvert democracy

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Speaker 3: to make it easy to take your money, but make

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Speaker 3: it harder for you to keep it. And we're going

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Speaker 3: to also talk with La City Councilwoman Heather Hutt, who

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Speaker 3: is trying to prevent businesses from going cashless in the

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Speaker 3: city of La and I'm totally in favor of her

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Speaker 3: on this one, so we'll get into that and that

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Speaker 3: horrific murder of a woman who flew a Gay Pride

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Speaker 3: as she put a gay Pride flag in front of

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Speaker 3: her business and apparently was killed for this. So we've

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Speaker 3: got all that and more coming up. The La Metro

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Speaker 3: is asking for the public to rename its West Santa

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Speaker 3: Ana branch train project because everybody thinks does it go

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Speaker 3: to Orange County?

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Speaker 4: And no it doesn't. So the name is confusing.

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Speaker 3: So they're going to have one of those contests where

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Speaker 3: the public gets to name it.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, is that going to be good?

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Speaker 3: How long before it becomes chew chu mctrain face or

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Speaker 3: something like that. You know, but you let we the

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Speaker 3: people have a crack at it, and it's not gonna

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Speaker 3: work out very well. Actually, that'd be the best thing

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Speaker 3: it could possibly happen to the La Metro because essentially,

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Speaker 3: right now, what it is, it's a rolling homeless shelter,

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Speaker 3: that's all it is. And it's a tragedy because there's

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Speaker 3: no great city in the world that doesn't have a

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Speaker 3: mass transit system that people can use, and ours is

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Speaker 3: an embarrassment right now. So we got to fix it somehow.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that would actually get people to pay attention to it.

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Speaker 3: I also saw this, and this really speaks to me.

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Speaker 3: Hosting friends and family from out of town always sounds

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Speaker 3: good in theory. No it doesn't, but it doesn't come

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Speaker 3: without its challenges. Two thirds of Americans have told a

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Speaker 3: guest to make themselves at home and regretted it later. Deborah,

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Speaker 3: have you ever told a guest to make yourself.

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Speaker 4: Have you regretted it? I have, Eric. Have you ever

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Speaker 4: had anyone stay at your your home? No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I thought so. No radio board op has ever

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Speaker 3: hosted a guest. You usually are the guest exactly. That's

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Speaker 3: what couches are for, is radio staffers. Anyway, The point

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Speaker 3: is is that we solved the problem. We were just

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Speaker 3: so rude to everybody. No one comes to our house anymore.

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Speaker 3: But the point is a new survey of two thousand

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Speaker 3: Americans found seventy two percent have told the guests to

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Speaker 3: make themselves, make their space they were on Mi casa asukasa,

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Speaker 3: and ninety one percent of those have instantly regretted it.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned this yesterday with Gladstone's closing. All Right, you

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Speaker 3: take them to universe and then eventually you end up

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Speaker 3: at Gladstone's and what you know, let the seagulls grab

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Speaker 3: the French fries out of your hand while going for

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Speaker 3: your eyeballs, and then you're stuck with them.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: This speaks to me because my sister Kathleen and I

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Speaker 3: we work this out perfect. My sister lives in Brewster,

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Speaker 3: New York, and when I go back there, we finally

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Speaker 3: spoke the truth to each other, which rarely happens in

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Speaker 3: a family.

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Speaker 4: She's got dogs, a lot of dogs. I like dogs,

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Speaker 4: but I don't like them climbing on me. I don't

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Speaker 4: like them.

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Speaker 3: They're jumping dogs. Okay, they're kangaroos with a dog collar.

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Speaker 3: So I wor cat people. Basically, I like dogs, but

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Speaker 3: you know, to a degree. And she's got a lot

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Speaker 3: of dogs. I don't know, eight nine dogs, and it

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Speaker 3: could be less. But the point is is that, as

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Speaker 3: it turns out, she doesn't like having anybody in the house,

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Speaker 3: or possibly just me in the house. So at some

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Speaker 3: point in our relationship we finally fest up that I

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Speaker 3: don't want to stay there and she doesn't want me

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Speaker 3: staying there. So I stay at a cheap motel in Bethel, Connecticut,

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Speaker 3: just across the New York state line.

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Speaker 4: And I've been doing that for years.

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Speaker 3: And you want to know something, everybody's happy, everybody's happy.

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Speaker 3: Just spend you know, go to the Red Roof in

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Speaker 3: Spring for sixty nine dollars a night, all right. Put

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Speaker 3: them up at the Red Roof in find a Super

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Speaker 3: eight somewhere. They got those little plastic cups of peanut butter,

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Speaker 3: you can pocket some of those that you live like

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Speaker 3: a king, and then you don't.

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Speaker 7: Have to feel awkward and uncomfortable. You can just do

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Speaker 7: your thing and you don't have to worry about anything else.

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Speaker 7: I'd rather stay in a hotel as well.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Hotel bathrooms have exhaust fans. All right,

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to leave it there.

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Speaker 7: Oh God, your poor sister, no wonder, she doesn't want

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Speaker 7: you in her house.

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Speaker 3: That's who said. I didn't say who was using the bathroom.

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Speaker 3: Let's get the latest news, Debra mark Kfi twenty four

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Speaker 3: hour Newsroom.

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