1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Hi everybody. While I'm taking the month of September off 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: of doing stand up, I return on October one to 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: complete my vaccinated and Horny tour October, November and December. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: I have new dates up. I kick it off in Saratoga, California, 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: and I'm coming to all parts of California, Long Beach 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: Baker's field. I'm going to Niagara Falls, Tucson, Arizona, Colorado, Minneapolis, 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: San Diego, reading Pennsylvania and Baltimore, Maryland, just to name 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: a few. There's also some Floridian dates in there, since 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: this will be my last year that I'm able to 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: go inside the state of Florida. SO CHECK OUT CHELSEA 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: HANDLER DOT COM for more stand up dates for my 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: vaccinated in Horny tour. These are my last dates. Hi, Catherine, 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: Hello Chelsea, how are you? Hello, hello, hi, guys, guess 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: where we are? We're in Majorca. Hello, Buenos Diaz. Told 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: hends that means whatever. We are in Ma Orca. Guys, 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Catherine is here with her a lovely husband, Brad, who 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: also works on our podcast with us, and we are 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: just partying it up in Spain. You know that in 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: Spain mushrooms are legal. We Really. Yes, when I was 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: in New York I passed out so many mushrooms to 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: so many random people, whether we were at the US Open, 22 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: whether we were at bars. I was just like here, 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: put your finger in this, just dip it in, like 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: it's like almost like a chew like tobacco, because I 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: have this like little pill container filled with mushrooms and 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: I just figure if I ever get caught with it 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: going through T S A, I'll just say it's my 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: mother's ashes. There you go, my sister. I gave it 29 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: to to my friends when I was in New York 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: City and I was like here, dip your finger in this, 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: and then they both did and they're like this isn't 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: gonna be too strong, right. I go no, no, it's 33 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: gonna be fine, and then I was like those are 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: my mother's ashes. Probably tastes about the same, right I've yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: For anybody WHO's snorted somebody else's ashes, you know what 36 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Well, I have a couple of follow 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: ups today, Chelsea. Okay, great, this one I just kind 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: of thought was really funny. Chelsea, I just wanted you 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: to know that I'm a Baptist who has enjoyed you 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 1: for years. I don't agree with your opinions a percent 41 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: of the time, but that's okay. I don't agree with 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: my pastor a percent of the time either. I just 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: wanted you to know that many Christians put love first. 44 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: Loving one another is the greatest commandment of all. I 45 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: don't do everything perfectly, but I am secure in knowing 46 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: that God just expects me to try and be a 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: good person, have a sense of humor and be open 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: to hearing other perspectives, even if I don't agree with them. 49 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: So I hope hearing from a fan who is also 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: a Christian will make a positive impression on you. Take Care, Angela. 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: Oh and she also said Uganda was her favorite special. 52 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: Oh well, there will be a new special coming out 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: soon and that will be your new favorite. But thank you. 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. And, Um, Huh, what do I I 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: just thought it was cute. Yeah, it's cute. I liked it. 56 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: I like that you have differing opinions than I do 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: and you're willing to sit and listen to me. That's 58 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: nice and I hope that I can do the same 59 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: for people who have differing opinions from me, and I 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: try very hard to do that, and all of our 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: listeners should too. Write. You know, as long as somebody's 62 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: not being hateful and acting in love, and they're not 63 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: being discriminatory or racist or sexist, then I think that 64 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: whatever smokes, what's the saying? Whatever rocks the whatever rocks 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: your cock? No, whatever floats your bone. I could have remever, 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: whatever floats your boat. Yeah, that's what I meant to say. 67 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: It's more appropriate for Antela than the first one. Yeah, 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: and then a couple of other ones. These are sort 69 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: of on the same theme, but these were responses too, 70 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: after we had talked to Dan savage and you had 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: talked about like being on the playground and my hesturbating 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: for the first time and all that. But Jenna says, 73 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I just have to say I learned 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: another reason why I connect with you so much. I 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: just finished the bathhouse episode with Dan Savage. Yes, I'm behind. 76 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: My first orgasm was also on the playground, climbing the 77 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: support stand of the swing set. I just had to 78 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: tell you that. I love you, Jenna. Oh, Jenna, Jenna, 79 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: do you know how many of us probably have masturbated 80 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: on playground equipment? I mean all of us. That's a 81 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: comfort to a lot of people because, yeah, you feel 82 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: such shame, like you're the only one. That's the important 83 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: thing for all of our listeners to remember. You're never 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: the only one who did anything. So if you feel 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: embarrassed or shameful about something, just no, there's a bunch 86 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: of people out there in the world who have also 87 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: done the same exact thing, no matter what the funk 88 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, well, and that actually leads me right 89 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: into the next email, which is on the same topic. Hi, Chelsea, 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted to send a quick email after catching 91 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: up on the pod. I had a similar experience to 92 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: Chelsea with masturbation as a child and the shame I 93 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: still carey about it today, making it honestly a little 94 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: hard to type this email. I just wanted to say 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Chelsea's openness about her experience really was so helpful to 96 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: me and lifted a lot of those feelings of shame 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: right off my shoulders. I really appreciate your discussion surrounding 98 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: the topic and it meant a lot to me. Thank you. 99 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: I love the podcast so much. People in my life 100 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: are sick of hearing me talk about it all the time. 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: Andrea sick of hearing you talk about the podcast. You're 102 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: talking about masturbating. That's funny. Both good, good. Yeah, we 103 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: should got to talk about more embarrassing I'll have to 104 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: think of some more embarrassing things, Catherine, that I've done, 105 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: and I mean I that there is no end out 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: of the things that I have experienced or done. I 107 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: love it. You're just out here doing the Lord's work. 108 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: It's great. Yeah, that's right. Oh, also, guys, we have merch. 109 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: We have dear Chelsea Merch, we have vaccinated in Horny Merch. 110 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: I have these awesome band t shirts now and we 111 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: have podcast merch. So go to Chelsea handler DOT COM 112 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: to check it out and make your purchase. So our 113 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: guests today, let's get to our guests today. We have 114 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: three guests together because they come as a package. They 115 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: are promoting their second book, which is called Lady's secrets. 116 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: It's out. September, means it is out and they're coinciding 117 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: Lady Secrets Tour that has kicked in September one, and 118 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 1: they are New York Times best selling authors and hosts 119 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: of the Lady Gang podcast, and their names are Jack Vanneck, 120 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: Kelty Knight and Becca Tobin. Hi, girls, hi, hi, hi, 121 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Oh my God, it's a lady gang. Oh ship, let 122 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: me get my ship together. Hi Girls, how are you? 123 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: We're so nervous. Don't be nervous, don't be silly. Come on, 124 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: we're so excited to be here. Katherine, I love seeing 125 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: your face. I've been imagining it for so many months 126 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: now and you're cuter than I imagined. Thank you. Likewise, 127 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: look at you all. This is we're such fans of 128 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: the show, so this is very streal. So thank you. 129 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm so excited to have you guys back. 130 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: I'm glad we could reciprocate. Awesome. Okay, so our guests 131 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: today are a great group of ladies that I have. 132 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: Don't say ladies. It's like saying gals. I don't like. 133 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: I would like to make an announcement. I don't like 134 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: when people refer to women as Gals. That puts you 135 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: into a generation that can't relate to broads. It's very 136 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: similar to rod rods, but that's from men, because no 137 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: woman's like that. I met abroad, but Gal. It reminds 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: me of like George W Bush would say something like that. 139 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: So I don't want to say Gals, and I don't 140 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: even like girls anymore. I just want to say guys 141 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: about everybody, and I don't know if that implies some 142 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: sort of sexism, but I just think we should all 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: be considered guys because we're a group. But Anyway, okay, girls, 144 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: let's delve into your new book without me describing it. 145 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: I'd rather you guys describe it more actively. Okay. So 146 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: leady's secrets is a collection of secrets from the three 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: of us, as well as our community of leading from 148 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: all over the world. When we wrote our first book 149 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: called act like a lady. We all kind of have 150 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: little anecdotes from our lives, plus some advice that we 151 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: were given, like giving to all of our ladies out there. 152 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: And it turns out nobody cares about our advice. Nobody 153 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: wanted the advice because it was questionable at bout and 154 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: a lot of the time we're just like, drink a 155 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: bottle of wine when all else feel as it'll fix 156 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: all your problems. But they really loved our stories. So 157 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: we kind of dug really deep, went into like repressed 158 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: memories that we'd have, things that we've tried to block 159 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: out forever, and came up with some of our deepest, 160 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: darkest secrets to include in the book. And the leading 161 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: gang is so much bigger than the three of us. 162 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: It's all about our community, so we thought it was 163 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: only right that we include them into the process as well. 164 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: So we set up a hotline called one four or 165 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: four sexy lady, where girls would call in and anonymously 166 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: share their secrets. We had an online submission form. We 167 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: got thousands and thousands of secrets and the best made 168 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: it into this little baby right here. I love it. 169 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I love it. So what did you guys learn? Everyone's 170 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: cheating on their husbands and they don't care and they 171 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: don't get caught because women are smarter than men. Yeah, 172 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: I just came from a lunch with two people who 173 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: were talking about cheating on their spouses and I was 174 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: just like, who's got that kind of energy? And they 175 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: were like, I don't even want to have sex spouse 176 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: number one. Exactly. Nobody wants to have sex with anybody 177 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: for a long period of time and that's just natural behavior. 178 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know, cheating and not cheating, it's like 179 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: it's not even a moral issue, it's an energy issue, 180 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: it's true, and sex is always so much better what 181 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: a stranger. So that's, I feel like, where everybody is 182 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: like reaching for. When that comes out. Well, sex is 183 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: better with a stranger, but it's also better in the beginning, 184 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: like any new relationship is always sexually like explosive, because 185 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: you're like Oh, oh, oh, yeah, I could be, but 186 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, everything is like a new rebirth, even though 187 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: you've done this a million times with different people. You're like, 188 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: oh no, this is great and then and it's very 189 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: hard to sustain any sort of newness, which is the 190 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: big problem here. Well, what's interesting is the only women 191 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: I know who are sucking their husbands and want to 192 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: be is because they're the women who are being cheated 193 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: on and they know it. They like feel it in 194 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: their bones, because it's that Weird Butterfly thing that you get. 195 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: You think that that's because you're excited, but really it's 196 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: just the nervousness and insecurity, and so those are the 197 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: women that are fucking their husband's night and day. They're 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: being cheated on. So, yeah, does this mean I have 199 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: to have a really intense conversation with my husband after this? 200 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: Oh No, you do have good sex. The exception to 201 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: the role you know. Yeah, I told him, I was 202 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: like we might need to after this recording today, just 203 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: like mid day for you, and then you call out 204 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: in the Middle Lady Gang, Lady Gang told me you 205 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: were cheating. How are each of your individual romantic lives? 206 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: What's The lowdown? So I've been married to my husband, Chris, 207 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: who is a music manager, and he we've been together 208 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: twelve years, married nine, and I'm like, uh, you don't 209 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: ask about my sex life and I was gonna go 210 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: right into like I like a nipple Tassel. That's how 211 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: I keep it alive. But like, you didn't even ask that. 212 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Why am I like? Oh my God, I went right 213 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: into my horizontal life, like right now. Okay, sorry, I 214 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: didn't just Chelsea was here and pasties. She does love 215 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: a nipple Tassel and somehow it goes into every interview 216 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: that we do. She interjects it somehow or enough. I'm 217 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: so proud I have it's not an appropriate time. Um, 218 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: I have been with my partners jared, for a little 219 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: bit over four years. We got engaged last year, hopefully 220 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: getting married next year, if I can ever actually plan 221 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: a wedding, which I was daunting and I keep pushing 222 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: it like out of my sight. But yeah, and then 223 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: Becca married for almost six years and we have a 224 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: six month old baby. So we barely have sex and 225 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: anytime he looks at me when I'm naked, I'm like please, 226 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: don't even think about it, I don't have energy. Yeah, 227 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: get away from me, get away from me. And how 228 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: did you three come together? So kelty and I were 229 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 1: in our twenties dancers in New York, not with tassels, 230 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: we were like Broadway dancers, roquettets and all that kind 231 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: of fun stuff, and then we just both happened to 232 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: land in Hollywood at the same time. I was an 233 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: actress and Kelty was doing entertainment journalism, and we kept 234 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: seeing each other on red carpets and may king eye 235 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: contact and being like isn't this the weirdest place you've 236 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: ever been? Like what is this? L A so weird? 237 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: We always feel bad about ourselves. So we had a 238 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: salad at Cafe One oh one one day and Kelty 239 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: has just always been a really like a pioneer of 240 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: the digital space, and we were like, we want to 241 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: talk show, but no one's going to give us that 242 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: because we're not anyone famous as kids. We don't have 243 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: a lot of money, like we have absolutely no like 244 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: nobody's going to give us what we want. So Kelsey 245 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: called me one day and she said, let's start a podcast. 246 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: And this was twenty like the end of and I 247 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: had no idea what a podcast was. I was like, 248 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: Adam Corolla, is that like what you're talking about? Yeah, 249 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: so then we kelty was like no, it's it's podcasting. 250 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: That's the future and we can do proof of concept 251 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: with a podcast. But the problem is is we had 252 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: no third person with any street credibility. We needed somebody 253 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: who was in the Business World, an entrepreneur self starter, 254 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: not really somebody in Hollywood. So Jack and Kelty have 255 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: a mutual ex boyfriend and Kelty stalked Jack for a 256 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: really long time because she thought she was like the 257 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: coolest girl ever. And we just reached out to her 258 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: and like, do you want to start a podcast? And 259 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: Jack had she's such a fun, like good time girl, 260 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: her answer. She had no idea what it was and 261 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: she was like, sounds fun. She didn't know seven years 262 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: later we would be routing our tour across America and 263 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: crying everything. I didn't feel like I have to go 264 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: to twin falls, Idaho. Fuck you, guys, grand rabbits. Literally, 265 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: when we had our show for a blip on e 266 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: that got almost instantly canceled. So our talk show idea 267 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: did not work out. Jack's biggest problem with it, because 268 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: she's so out of Hollywood, was that she had to 269 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: wear a bra on television. She's like, I can't wear 270 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: a low cut shirt like I have to, and we're 271 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: like at least a nipple cover and she's like no, 272 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: like this is when I lose my identity and I'm 273 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: not down for it. I was like I need to 274 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: have either a nipple kind of showing through a shirt 275 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: or like a V down to my belly button. So 276 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't getting that. So I'm very glad and that's 277 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: why I got sold. They went the nibbles out. I 278 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: think we would have been more successful. How long, how 279 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: short lived was the show? How long was it on? 280 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: For Sixteen episode? It was seventeen very grueling, hellish episodes. Ye, 281 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: for me. And then so that show got canceled and 282 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: then we decided to write a book and then Earth 283 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: got canceled during the pandemic. So we released that book 284 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: into a void of nothingness and we didn't get to 285 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: tour it or do anything. And now and now we're 286 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: out here and it's so difficult for me to be 287 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: on this podcast because I just want to be like, Chelsea, 288 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: are you doing late night, like what is happening? If 289 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: you want to talk about it, you can talk about it, 290 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: but like we need to we need to know. I'm 291 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm in discussions to talk about it. I'm ready. After 292 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: I did Jimmy Kimmel for a week like a few 293 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: months ago, I just was like, Oh, this is such 294 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: a there's such a dearth. Hey, like I don't even 295 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: want to have to be responsible for that, but at 296 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: the same time I'm exactly the person that will be 297 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: responsible for that. Like women need a voice right now, 298 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: especially with all this disgusting turmoil about our rights being 299 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: stripped away and gay people and and and a contraception 300 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: and just what what's coming next? You know, like all 301 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: of it is just like the fact that there are 302 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: not women on late night in a big way. I 303 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: mean there's Amber Ruffin, who's on peacock, who's doing an 304 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: incredible job, but Samantha B got canceled. Like you can't 305 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: cancel a woman, right now. I'm sorry, like you just can't, 306 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: because as if these fucking guys are just telling the story. 307 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: They're not. The story is has to be told by 308 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: a woman. Now. Yeah, so I am in discussions to 309 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: do that. I have to do it at a much 310 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: more minimum, minimal commitment, because I don't want to do 311 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: a show five nights a week. But I'm just trying 312 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, where that place is and 313 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: what the right approaches. So I appreciate you saying that 314 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: and I do feel a big responsibility to show up. 315 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: You're like the only one, like if anyone's going to 316 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: get this job, which is so sad that there's like 317 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: a tiny half seat at the table and we're like hey, 318 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: we could maybe get a woman, and then there's like 319 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: one that has the career that could possibly be like 320 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: given this opportunity like it should be. There should be 321 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: ten Chelseas that are all fighting for ten spots or whatever, 322 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: but the fact that there's like one you and one 323 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: half seat is so disheartening. But like we need you, 324 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: we want you, like if there's anything we can do 325 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: to help, like I literally will start a petition. Ah, 326 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: you guys are the best. That's so sweet. I will 327 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: make it happen, but I also will make it happen 328 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: so that there is a door open for ten other 329 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: women to take that place of me, because there's no 330 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: reason that that this dearth the imbalance, after everything that 331 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: we've been discussing for the last five years between men 332 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: and women and the imbalance of power, and Hollywood pretending 333 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: they're on board but not really being on board, because 334 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: if they were, there would be women represented, and it's bullshit. 335 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: It's fucking bullshit, and any executive that doesn't want to 336 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: pull the trigger and say yes, okay, let's give a 337 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: voice to women now. This is enough with these five men, 338 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, who basically are rotating the same thoughts with 339 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: different hairstyles. Well, actually the same hairstyle. Anyway, girls, back 340 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: to you. Okay, so I got the low down from 341 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: your relationships. I love that. How does the dining AMC 342 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: work between the three of you, because that's an odd pairing. 343 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: You know, two is different than three. So can you 344 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: speak a little bit about those dynamics? They were great 345 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: until I had a kid. Yeah, you made your bed. 346 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: You made your bed and now you need to lie 347 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: in it. I know it's really fucking hard. I thought 348 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: I was going to be exempt from like having feelings 349 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: and feeling obligated and having the guilt. It's all bullshit 350 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: and I thought I was going to be an exception 351 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: to the rule, and I'm not. However, up until six 352 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: months ago, we have a stellar dynamic because we don't 353 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: hold anything in. We let it out. We take nothing personally, 354 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: we trust each other. We all have very different things 355 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: that were really great at, and so we stay in 356 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: our lanes. Let's talk about that for a second, because 357 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: I think that's a really important thing to identify as 358 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: any person, but specifically for women. Like to identify your 359 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: attributes and your strength. So let's go around back and 360 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: you start like tell me what your strengths are. I'm 361 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: like the big picture person and I have you know, 362 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: Kelty says, if we need an idea, I'm really great 363 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: at figuring out what that is, and she's the executor. 364 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: So it's like I have these big dreams and Kelty 365 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: really does hit the pavement. She calls whoever needs to 366 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: be called. She doesn't take no for an answer. We 367 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: say that if Jack and I were doing this alone, 368 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: we'd still be sitting at the Cafe One oh one, 369 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: like mapping out the format of the podcast. Kelty gets 370 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: it done, and then Jack is this insane creative where 371 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: everything you look at, everything you touch, all the aesthetics 372 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: of the brand and really like the voice of the 373 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: brand comes from Jack, because her history is in creating it. 374 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: She has a clothing line. She was the original, like 375 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: the O g of the Sassy t shirt, where it 376 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: was like I'm Maria fucking sunshine, and then everybody ripped 377 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: her off. But that's her brain and it's crazy and 378 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: wild and works in mysterious ways, and that's sort of 379 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: like what we kind of fall under. Jack designed this 380 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: whole book, the cover, every single song, China wallpaper inside. 381 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: That's Vagina's hand drawn by Volva's keelty were learning and 382 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: BECCA's also. I will say like Becca's lane is an 383 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: our charity component. Like she's always like this is so great, 384 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: we can all clit our jobs, but like what are 385 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: we doing to help other women? And so, like she 386 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: always and I'm like wait, there's other women other than me. 387 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm so I'm always just thinking about myself, like what, 388 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: I'm right here, there's seven of me. Yeah, no, without, 389 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: without Becca, it would be pretty soulless. would be honest, 390 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: like I'm just trying to scrape by and like be 391 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: able to pay my rent and a narcissist. So, like 392 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 1: without Becca, it would definitely be very in word. Yeah, so, 393 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a good thing. It's a 394 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: good thing. Well, it's a great example, I think, for women. 395 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: You know, in dynamics, I mean you guys are a 396 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: lot younger than me, so you've grown up with a 397 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: little bit more, like a larger, broader breadth of how 398 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: important it is to help other women. But like when 399 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: I was growing up, like it was. It was like 400 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: women against women, and you're like no, no, it can 401 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: never be this way. You can't be pitting each other again, 402 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: like we have to collectively work together because we are 403 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: the most powerful people. So when you get into dynamics, 404 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: when there's two, three, four or five, six people, it's 405 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: so important to understand whose value stands where and to 406 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: respect that and to respect each other in like a 407 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: really thoughtful way in order to demonstrate for all of 408 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: these generations to come how important female partnership is. Yeah, 409 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: and we got really lucky. Like back to the respect component, like, 410 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 1: above anything, we have such respect for each other and 411 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: we really, really do care for each other and we 412 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: got really lucky because we started this podcast, none of 413 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: us really knew each other that well and we're business 414 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: partners first, we're friends second, but that that we don't 415 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that we don't like, deeply, deeply care 416 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: for each other, but I think that there is such 417 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: a level of respect that we have for each other and, 418 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: like Becca said, we stay in our own lanes, like 419 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: we trust each other to do the things that we 420 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: do well, and we really because we're one of the 421 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: first women podcasts out there, like we kind of feel 422 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: like we have a responsibility to have as many seats 423 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: at the podcast table as we can and help other 424 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: podcasters out. There's no secrets, like, if we found out 425 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: that something works for us, we're going to share that 426 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: with somebody else, because we did enter a world where 427 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: it was the Autom corlas and that's it. So that's 428 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: where we kind of felt where we can do our 429 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: job to try to help other women out in the 430 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: same space as well. And the only difference when we 431 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: go to Boise, we just split it three ways, which 432 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: is great. And how has your success with everything that 433 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: you guys have accomplished impacted your personal lives individually? Well, 434 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: I used to be a desperate actress and I was 435 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: waiting for the phone, touring and my identity was wrapped 436 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: up in like the next TV show, the next job, 437 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: the red carpets. I was very I really wasn't fulfilled. 438 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: I was just sort of like I have to achieve, 439 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: I have to achieve, I have to get picked, pick me. 440 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: I didn't really know my worth outside of that world. 441 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: And so building this thing where we show up twice 442 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: a week as ourselves and having that be the thing 443 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: where like the doors fly open, for me it's been 444 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: something incredible for just my my self esteem, quite honestly, 445 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: and just finding out who I am outside of that 446 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: like weird actress, like caricature that I was playing for 447 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: so many years. Right, that's powerful. I love it. What 448 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: about you, Kelt? Well, for me I was a dancer 449 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: in New York with with Becca. She beat me out 450 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: like the competition thing. We actually actually started that way. 451 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: BECCA is incredibly talented and I can't sing a lick 452 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: but pretend I can. So we would be in rooms 453 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: auditioning for Broadway shows, which I never successfully did, and 454 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: Beck would be like Momma, and then I would come 455 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: in like yes, it's my turn here, Jerry. I had 456 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: a beautiful at the time. I had a beautiful long 457 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: show girl body, so I'd always make it past the 458 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: dance cut and then when we're saying it would be 459 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: like everyone would be like please, God stop. But I 460 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: thought she didn't stop her from Troy not the best. 461 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm the best. I'm the best so anyway. But there 462 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: was competition. But but for me, I I transitioned from 463 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: dancing to being a reporter and I worked at entertainment 464 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: tonight and CBS for, you know, over a decade. and Um, 465 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: I was doing this job because I saw the people 466 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: doing this job and I thought this is a great 467 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: job to have. This is so fancy and fabulous and glamorous. But, like, 468 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: I went home every night my guts kind of hurt. 469 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: Like my guts kind of hurt because that job is 470 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: so amazing and so wonderful when you're at like the 471 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: Venice Film Festival or you're at the Oscars and it's 472 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: like a celebration, but so much of that job is 473 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: sitting down with people who you barely know and trying 474 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: to get them to say and talk about something that 475 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: they maybe don't want to talk about, and there's a 476 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: lot of like back wiggling in that to get you 477 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: to that point where we're like there's a there's a 478 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: weird potion poll, and I was always kind of uncomfortable 479 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: with that. And so when the podcast became so successful 480 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 1: that I could walk away from that job, it was 481 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: very empowering. And then in the next six months I 482 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: turned around and sold my dream show back to CBS 483 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: that I just finished filming, and now with my own 484 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: music show that I'm the host, executive producer and creator of, 485 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: and a podcast and I don't have to ask anyone 486 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: about their divorce. I love that story. What a great 487 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: good congratulations. You fucking deserve that. It's weird because I 488 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: was like no, this is it, this is number this 489 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: is the number one show, this is the number one job, 490 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: like this is this is a highest step or going 491 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: to get. And then when I walked away I was 492 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: so scared and life is way better now, like if 493 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: we want to go to Puerto Rico into our podcast 494 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: for the beach next week, we can walk away. Is 495 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: Very underrated. People don't understand how empowering that is when 496 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: you walk away from something, you're not only inviting other things. 497 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Like there's an energetic force that is immeasurable that nobody 498 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: takes seriously because it's energy and Karma, and people are like, well, 499 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: how can you prove that? Easily? fucking Karma is provable, 500 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: like it's happened, I've lived it, I've seen it happen 501 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,239 Speaker 1: to others, and when you walk away from something, you 502 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: are saying I need more, and then more comes right away, 503 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: and that is indisputable. I would argue. What about you, Jack? So, 504 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: I came from a completely different world than them. I 505 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: started a clothing line when I was in college and 506 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: I had kind of just been walking to the beat 507 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: of my own drum for a decade, having my own brand, 508 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: doing my own thing by myself. So with the leading 509 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: gang it was the first time that I was ever 510 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: kind of working with other people, as you know, equals 511 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: and as peers, not as somebody's boss, and it kind 512 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: of gave me purpose for the first time, and especially 513 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: once our podcast started taking legs and we started building 514 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: this community. We're actually affecting women's lives for the first 515 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: time and we're getting this feedback and our mantra has 516 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: always been to make other women feel less alone. We're 517 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: not curing cancer or anything, but if we can kind of, 518 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, offer a friendship up to our listeners or, 519 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, a piece of advice kind of changed their 520 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: perspective on something. Those little things or what kind of 521 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: started fulfilling me with the leading game that I wasn't 522 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: getting from selling Sassy t shirts on my website. So 523 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of where I started taking value from the 524 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: leading gang when we first started. It all started with 525 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: the snail trail and it's been seven years of sharing 526 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: everything so you don't feel so bad about your vaginal discharge. 527 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: There's a shocking amount of women out there who don't 528 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: understand and we who don't understand that's certain underwear you 529 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: just have to throw away well, and it's like people, 530 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: women or girls, are like it's something wrong with me. 531 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: I know. I mean, Oh God, I know. I wish 532 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: women understood that. It's so gross, though. It's so embarrassing 533 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: to have. I can't understand women that don't wear underwear. 534 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: It's like I need something to catch whatever, because it 535 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: is coming out of my Pikachu and there's stuff coming out. 536 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: I see it about. You know, one week out of 537 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: a month and I would like come catcher. I don't 538 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: want that freestyling. When people say they don't want to underwear. 539 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, where are you doing with your jeans? fucking 540 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: sending it to the fucking dry cleaner. Okay, girls, we're 541 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: gonna take colors and letters and we're gonna give real 542 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: life advice. You guys ready? Yes, Katherine, what do we 543 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: have in store for today? Oh my goodness, we have 544 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: some vagina stuff. We've got some really tough stuff, we've 545 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: got some WTF stuff. It's gonna be very fun. Okay, 546 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna name this episode come catcher. I'm going to 547 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: take a break and we will be right back. And 548 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: we're back. Fabulous, we're back with the Lady Gang. Everybody, 549 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: we're back with the Lady Gang, all three of the 550 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: girls and Catherine and myself. All Right, are you ready? 551 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: Our first email comes from Brittany. Brittany says, Dear Chelsea, 552 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to write in about my relationship with my 553 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: boyfriend of three years. I love the man and his 554 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: two children very much. However, there are several things that 555 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: concern me about the future of our relationship. Let me 556 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: start out by saying that my boyfriend lost his long 557 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: term wife to cancer about seven years ago. I'm the 558 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: first serious girlfriend since the wife passed. The dynamic is 559 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: a really strange one. My boyfriend is a successful physician 560 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: with an amazing heart. When it's just the two of us, 561 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: we get along fabulously. That being said, his home stresses 562 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: me the funk out. He still has the deceased wife's 563 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: belongings just as they were before she passed. There's even 564 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: still a mirror up in the house that has quote cancer. 565 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: You will not defeat me written in her lipstick. I 566 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: have voiced my concerns about the wife's stuff still being 567 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: present and he's slowly working on moving her belongings to 568 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: the basement. There's also the nanny. She's been with the 569 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: family for four and a half years and has really 570 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: given a sense of consistency to the boys. The boys 571 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: are sixteen and thirteen and still very much in need 572 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: of a little bit of help. The older son struggles 573 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: with behavioral issues, among other things. That being said, the 574 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: nanny drives my boyfriend's Van, lives in an attached apartment 575 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: for free and makes seriously good money. While I respect 576 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: her relationship with the boys. I can't help but feel 577 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: taken advantage of. The nanny often goes out of town 578 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: and I'm left to fill in for her without the pay. 579 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: Often watches her boyfriend's children while watching my boyfriend's kids 580 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: on the clock, and will even drop off her dog 581 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: for us to watch over the weekend. The employer employee 582 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: lines have definitely been blurred. Oftentimes I'll get to the 583 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: house and there's no food or the laundry isn't done. 584 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: I've had it out with both the nanny and my boyfriend. 585 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: My boyfriend states that he needs the nanny a little 586 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: bit longer and he's scared to lose her. At what 587 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: point do I give up this insanity? or Am I 588 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: being too impatient? I recently moved back into my parents 589 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: house and they weren't living together. She was living somewhere else. 590 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: It was beyond upsetting that my boyfriend didn't invite me 591 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: to move in and allows the nanny to drive his 592 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: extra car, not just for work, she uses it for 593 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: personal errands. I love this man and wanted to work Brittany. 594 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: Oh God, there's a lot to unpack. Oh that is 595 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: haired so unhealthy. Oh and so hard, hard, hard, because 596 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: when you love someone, you want anything to work. I'll 597 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: go for oust girls, and then you guys, please jump 598 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: in collectively. I just think that women are really bad 599 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: at setting boundaries just because of the way that we've 600 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: all been raised and we just learned about boundaries like 601 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: a month ago and we were just bad at setting them. 602 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: And until you set boundaries and standards, no one will 603 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: meet them. So like, somebody will take as much from 604 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: you as they can. And that's not to say that 605 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: your lover or boyfriend is a bad person. He's not. 606 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: He's just in a situation where he's being taken advantage 607 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: of by the nanny and he's also letting her take 608 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: advantage of you. And that dynamic because you've allowed it. 609 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: The simplest thing is that you have allowed this and 610 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: as soon as you stop allowing it, it will stop happening, 611 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: and if it doesn't, then that's, you know, a different conversation. 612 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: But I still think there's hope. You have to literally 613 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: sit down with him, and if it's with a third party, 614 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: even better, like it's better to have somebody else kind 615 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: of comments on the situation. If you can go to 616 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: a couple's counselor if you can afford that. That would 617 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: be really beneficial to just lay the groundwork and saying, like, 618 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm no longer comfortable with the way things are working. 619 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: I understand the situation I'm getting into, but now I 620 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: feel taken advantage of and I'm trying to be in 621 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: addition to this situation, not be a subtraction and not 622 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: be subtracted from, and I think it's worth a conversation. 623 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: If you could do that with a third party, Great. 624 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: If you can't, I think you should really write down 625 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: your thoughts, get it together for a conversation with him 626 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: to state what your boundaries are in the state kind 627 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: of what's going on with this nanny, which is you 628 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: know that's great that she's filling in a void, but 629 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of feels like your voids are crossing over 630 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: each other. You're both feeling a role. That is counter productive. 631 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: I think you really have to say what you need 632 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: and give the person an opportunity to meet you and 633 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: if you can't, then there you go. Then that sucks 634 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: and I understand you love him. I just left a 635 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: relationship where I loved somebody but the standards were not 636 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: at my level. I'm not accepting anything less than what 637 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: I know I deserve not doing it. So you have 638 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: to have a conversation with yourself and you have to 639 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: have a conversation with him and then give him an 640 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: opportunity and if he doesn't meet you, then that's your answer. 641 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: What do you girls think? I was going to lean 642 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: Intobecca for this because you've sort of been through a 643 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: similar situation where you're in a new relationship after losing someone. 644 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: So I was going to throw it to you BECCA. Well, 645 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad you've covered boundaries, because I still don't have those, 646 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: so I can't tell you anything about that. But I 647 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: can't tell you as somebody, I did lose my boyfriend 648 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: that I was living with seven years ago. Wow, see, 649 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: it's like crazy, and I actually started dating my husband 650 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: pretty shortly after that. But the only reason that we 651 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: were able to have a healthy relationship was where there 652 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: were two things. I was in deep grief therapy like 653 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: and if your if your partners, not doing that, then 654 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of for me that that would 655 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: be like a red flag and maybe even a not 656 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: not worth you being in that relationship if he's not 657 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: working on that part of this whole equation. So grief 658 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: therapy for me. And then the other part was, and 659 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're really wonderful at this, but my husband 660 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: had a sense of security about him, about us, that 661 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: was so strong and I never felt that he was 662 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: trying to compete with my dead boyfriend. I never felt 663 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: like he felt threatened from what came before him. But 664 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: I did the work to make him comfortable. I cleared 665 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: out the closet, I didn't keep things around that we're mats. 666 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: I I really did the work, and so that equation 667 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: was the most perfect thing. So if you're feeling insecure 668 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: and the wife's things are around the house, it's okay. Too. 669 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: Gently mentioned that making you feel uncomfortable. But he's not 670 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: going to just do that. He has to have help. 671 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: He's obviously holding onto something and a lot of men 672 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: really struggle with loss. So yeah, I just therapy aspect 673 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: of it. And also those boys lost their mom and 674 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: you can never forget that. You can never, ever, ever 675 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: forget as like Shitty as those kids can probably be 676 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: and how bad the behavior can be. Just hold firm, 677 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: remember that you're just there to support and try not 678 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: to take it personally, because it really isn't about you. 679 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: It's not about you, and I want to just piggyback 680 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: on that. Like, you know, women are so much better 681 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: at talk therapy than men are, just by our nature, 682 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're more emotional, we're more in touch with 683 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: our emotions, we have more of a vocabulary to articulate 684 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: our pain, and I really believe you can keep someone's 685 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: memory alive for a really long time, which is exactly 686 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: what those boys should be doing for their mother, and 687 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: you can be a conduit for that, like you can 688 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: be like, tell me about your mom. What's your favorite, 689 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: you know, favorite memory? What did she do? And and 690 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: that's a way to honor her without having a room 691 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: shrouded around her like. Yes, of course he doesn't have 692 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: to throw her things away or anything dramatic like that, 693 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: but to have a room dedicated to her after all 694 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: this time is also not healthy. But you can keep 695 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: it's it's almost like you can feel the void that 696 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,919 Speaker 1: is there, with other ways to talk about it, with 697 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: the kids, with your husband, to keep her memory alive 698 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: out of respect, because she did exist and she did 699 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 1: create these people and that's valuable and and she died. So, 700 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: like it's important for you to present yourself with somebody 701 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: who is a conduit to that energy rather than a 702 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: blockade to that energy. I think also, you know, being 703 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: in a relationship with anybody that has kids from a 704 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: previous relationship, like they're always going to come first. So 705 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: a lot of the decisions that he may or may 706 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: not be making are hopefully with them in mind. So 707 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: it's you kind of have to take yourself out of 708 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: the equation, not out of the equation, but like out 709 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: of your own head and look at things a little 710 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: bit objectively sometimes as well, because when you're taking everything 711 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: so personally, his number one goal is probably hopefully to 712 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: make sure those kids are still supported and raised well and, 713 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, still have a connection to their mother. So 714 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: it's very complicated and there's so many different layers to it, 715 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: but I think, keeping that in mind, it's hard when 716 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: you don't have kids of your own, or did chiff 717 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: kids of her own? No, Huh. Yeah, when you're kind 718 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: of filling in for that like step mom, because you 719 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: want to act as a bridge. You don't want to 720 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: be shut down and like I can't hear about her, 721 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: that's immature. Like you have to acknowledge other people's existence 722 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: and acknowledge the reason that you're there, and I think 723 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: being kind of like a kindle in a sense and 724 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: a bridge is way more valuable, and that, especially little children, 725 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: the imprint that you make on their brains. You really 726 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: don't know about that until years later, but you're making 727 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: an imprint and it should be like the most positive, 728 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: good vibe one that you can make. Yeah, just to 729 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: take a slightly different tack the nanny stuff, I find 730 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: a little funky the fact that she's talking about this 731 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: person is getting paid for this work and I'm not. 732 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: It makes me think, like my mom always, as you 733 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: marry the family, whether or not the families in the picture, 734 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: you marry all the baggage that comes with that. So, like, 735 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: if she's not ready to take on like the fact 736 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: that this family needs to have somebody else in their 737 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: life to help with the behavioral issues or whatever, then 738 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: it maybe isn't a right fit. Yeah, you're totally right. 739 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: Hard well, Brittany, keep us posted on what happens. Yeah, Brittany, 740 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: keep in touch and let us know how it progresses. Okay. Well, 741 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: our next question comes from Marjorie. Marjorie says I'm a 742 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: forty four year old. Says Gender Woman, I've been married 743 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: for from almost ten years to an amazing and supportive partner. 744 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm a business owner with six contractors working for me. 745 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: It's a lot of work, but I love what I 746 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: do and I'm successful. We have wonderful families and strong 747 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: relationships with our friends. The part of our life that 748 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: has been difficult and painful has been trying to start 749 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: a family. I've had multiple miscarriages over an eight year period. 750 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: I saw consults from four different fertility clinics, which included 751 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: medicated cycles, I U Y, I v F, acupuncture, raiky therapy, 752 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: functional nutrition, Netic Testing, fertility coaching, you name it, I've 753 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: probably tried it. Our marriage suffered during these years as 754 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: my depression and anxiety took me over. Now we're in 755 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: a place where we are reimagining our lives as a 756 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: childless couple. This has been particularly painful for me, but 757 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: I do feel I'm on the other side of the 758 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: darkest parts of it. I'm now on medication. I see 759 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: an amazing therapist weekly, Meditate, exercise, Journal and generally practice 760 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: self care in a way I've never done before, and 761 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: it works. I feel better overall and I'm seeing a 762 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: life without children that no longer frightens me. Although it's 763 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: still painful, it's less painful than continuing to try. Over time, 764 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: I've come to realize that adoption doesn't feel right for me. 765 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: We talk about fostering someday and are both on board 766 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: with giving back to kids that need a home and love. However, 767 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: we need more time to strengthen our relationship before welcoming 768 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: foster children into our home. As you can imagine, the 769 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: years of infertility have taken a toll, and in order 770 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: to be good foster parents, we need to work on 771 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: ourselves first. The advice I'm seeking is how to continue 772 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: to bolster a positive, really fationship with myself now that 773 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: my purpose in life, to be a mom, has been altered. 774 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: I know you never wanted kids and so you can't 775 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: identify with some of this. However, I identify with you 776 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: and your choice to be childless because, more than anything, 777 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 1: I want to feel like it is my choice. I'm 778 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: an awesome, cool aunt and I spend as much time 779 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: as I can with my twelve year old niece. I'm 780 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: planning to give my fifteen year old nephew my car 781 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: when he gets his license next year, just because I 782 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: can I have plenty of money and will be able 783 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: to retire early. I travel to see friends whenever I want. 784 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: On my lunch break, I cozy up on my couch 785 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: and read a good book. And while this is all good, 786 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: I still feel the pain every day and maybe always will. Chelsea, 787 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: any advice or ideas that will help me continue to 788 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 1: grow in this new lifestyle I'm creating? Thanks in advance. Marjorie. Hi, Marjorie, hello, hi, Marjorie, hi. 789 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: We have all the girls here from Lady Gang Today. Yes, Wonderful, 790 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: nice to meet you all well. Thank you for writing 791 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: in about that. You're right, I don't want children, but 792 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: I can relate to the struggle of wanting something not 793 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: being able to get it. So I want to say 794 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: a couple of things to you before the other girls 795 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: pipe in, just off the top of my head. I 796 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: have a very close person in my life who recently 797 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: fostered a child to adopt, and she's too, and it 798 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: is probably the most rewarding thing I've ever seen happen 799 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: to anyone I know. So that is always something to pursue, 800 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: because you are taking somebody that has been given away 801 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: and loving them. So I understand and respect the idea 802 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: of you wanting to repair your relationship to where you 803 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: see it's fit enough to bring that person, because I 804 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: I am definitely a proponent of I don't believe when 805 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: people are like we're gonna have a baby and fix everything. 806 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: That's not the right and getting married doesn't fix everything 807 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: and all of that. But it's really positive that you're 808 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: this in touch with yourself and you're this self aware, 809 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: like a lot of people are not. What I would 810 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: like to say to you, though, on a personal front, 811 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: is I have so much availability for not only my 812 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: nieces and nephew, kind of like you mentioned, you know, 813 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: in your letter, but for other children in the world 814 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: because I don't have my own, because if I had 815 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: my own, it would be all about them. And I 816 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: I look at it like, because I don't have my 817 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: own children, I'm able to send strangers to college, you 818 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm able to support people that 819 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: I'll never meet, kids that I'll never meet, in countries 820 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: that will never even probably visit, but I'm able to 821 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: give so much because I don't have my own family 822 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: and to me, that is my purpose. I would be 823 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: a shitty mother, I would be selfish, I would want 824 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: everything to be great for my kid and forget about 825 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: all the other kids in the world, when I think 826 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: some of our responsibilities lie in taking care of the world, 827 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: like that's the way it's supposed to be. Not just 828 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: your kid, everybody's kid, and you're in a position to 829 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: do just that. So, instead of thinking if this is 830 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: like something that has limited you, it's a huge opportunity 831 00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: for expansion, and I get that and I appreciate that. 832 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: That is actually a point that I've been working with 833 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: my therapist on for a long time, because it's hard 834 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: to see past what you don't have and the infertility 835 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: and the miscarriages and everything. It just sort of it 836 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: just broke me down to a point of just I 837 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: didn't know who I was for a long time and 838 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure that out again. And so 839 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: I've I've always very much identified with a lot of 840 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: what you say around kids. I mean, obviously you don't 841 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: want any, but just it's a safe space. You know, 842 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed listening to your podcast because I never 843 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: have to worry because everything is a trigger when you've 844 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 1: kind of been through the ringer in that way. Yeah, 845 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: and I think the most important thing to remember is 846 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 1: to accept your lot. Right. Okay, so it's been a 847 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,280 Speaker 1: struggle for you to become a mother, so stop, stop 848 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: trying to do it the way that you think it 849 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: has to be done. Look at the other ways. There 850 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: are millions of other ways to accomplish the love that 851 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: you want to feel between you and a kid without 852 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: being a biological mother. Like that is a limiting, narrow 853 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: minded view that you're stuck to because it's your experience 854 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: and you wanted something that you didn't get. But what 855 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: will evolve your soul is to let go of that 856 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: and to say how now? How can I help more people? Now? 857 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: Let me look into fostering and if that's too much 858 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: of an onus for you, totally fine. But you can 859 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: go volunteer, you know, at the Y W you know 860 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: c a or the Y M C A or any 861 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: of these you know organizations, or you can you know, 862 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: you could be a big sister, you could be a 863 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: great aunt, you could do there's just so many avenues 864 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 1: where you can give so much and you have to 865 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: look at it as like, Oh, I'm now in a 866 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 1: position where I can give more to so many others 867 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 1: than I would have been able to give to one person. 868 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: Right you're in this situation like, stop resisting. What happened? 869 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: So you weren't meant to have a baby biologically. Maybe 870 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: you know that's not the end of the world. Look 871 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: at you. You're beautiful, you're thriving, you're healthy, you have 872 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: a husband, you're working on your relationship, you have self awareness, 873 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: you know you want to give out love. These are 874 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: all beautiful things. It's nothing to be sad about. This 875 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: is true. I'm connecting with that more in the past 876 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: few months and things don't look as bleak, but even 877 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: just getting there has been really difficult and it's obviously 878 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,759 Speaker 1: up and down, and so I can appreciate I can 879 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yeah, girls, what do you guys have to 880 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,280 Speaker 1: say about this? What do you think? Hi, Marjorie Rebecca. 881 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for this, because I also went 882 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: through five years of fertility hell and I know exactly 883 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 1: what you're feeling and what you're going through and it's 884 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: so hard to not feel like you've failed every single time. 885 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: And there's so much, not even just the energy and 886 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: the stress on the relationship. Financially, it is so insane 887 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: the amount of money that you put into this and 888 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: to have it not turn out the way that you envisioned. 889 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: It's a heartbreak. You're grieving and I think what Chelsea 890 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: said is amazing and incredible and she's a much better 891 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: human than most people will ever be, because most of 892 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: us are just narcissists and we just want to keep 893 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: trying and keep trying to like make our little spawn. 894 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 1: And I get that poll too, and I was sitting 895 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: here and I'm like, do I say this thing or 896 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: do I not say this thing, because it's it could 897 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: be received in a way that you're not wanting or 898 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: sounds selfish, but I have a friend who went through 899 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: exactly kind of what you have gone through. Just kept 900 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: hitting the roadblock and kept hitting the roadblock and she 901 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: got to a place where she tried really hard to 902 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: soul search and think, what does life look like without 903 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: this baby, and she she wasn't ready and she didn't 904 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: want that and she actually used a donor egg from 905 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: an agency. And that's a thing that a lot of 906 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: straight couples are doing. They just don't talk about it 907 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: and my friends actually own an agency. It's called elevate baby, 908 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, who uses donor eggs? You 909 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 1: know and they're like, oh, it's not just two men, 910 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: it's a lot of women who have spent their lives 911 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: building their careers and they aren't necessarily thinking of their 912 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: eggs not being viable when they want to use them. 913 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of people that do this. 914 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: My friend just did this because she wanted to carry 915 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: a baby and that was what she did. Her baby's 916 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: one and she's very, very everything that you imagine a 917 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: new mother is. And I know that you know all 918 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: the options are out there, but I've seen it firsthand 919 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: and it's like the way that I feel about my baby, 920 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: who is actually genetically mine, as far as I know. 921 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: She feels exactly the same way, and I know that 922 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: people feel this way about adoption and about fostering, but 923 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: I just I've seen it and so I had to 924 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: say it and take that for what it's worth. But 925 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: I also think that what Chelsea said about if you 926 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: decide this is the end of your road for this journey, 927 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: like life can still be really beautiful and what you're 928 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: describing of your life is it sounds really magical, especially 929 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: to me right now. You can travel, you can see 930 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: friends and my life just became very myopic and it's 931 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: while it's wonderful, it's still, you know, it's a it's 932 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 1: an adjustment. Yeah, we have explored some of those other options. 933 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: Talking about the financial, you know, piece of it, we 934 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: did all the paperwork for adoption, which was probably, you know, 935 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: ten grand in total, and it just didn't feel right. 936 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: Now I'm almost forty five and, you know, getting pregnant 937 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: has been a challenge over an eight year period, but 938 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: maintaining the pregnancy has, you know, even with eggs in 939 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: IBF that we knew were genetically normal, I still lost 940 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: so the after that, the idea of a donor egg 941 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: just I mean that there's a it would have been 942 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: possible maybe, but less likely. And hear what you're saying. 943 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: Like I did reach that point about a year ago 944 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: after my list last miscarriage, where I knew I had 945 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: to stop, even though I didn't want to, and that 946 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 1: I'm still dealing with that, although it's getting better. It's, 947 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: you know, getting off the roller coaster, because I could 948 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 1: have just kept going on and on and on and on. 949 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: And so you know, that acceptance piece has been a 950 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: real challenge, although I know I need to and it's 951 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: getting easier. It's I don't know if I'll ever not 952 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: feel a loss, but I I do see more ways 953 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: to fill that whole and spread them up. But you're 954 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: looking at something that's a loss. That's just not and 955 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to this to sound harsh, because it's 956 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: going to. It's not your reality. Like, if it's this difficult, 957 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: then it's not meant to be and it's not a loss, 958 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: it's a game, because once you come across it and 959 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: stop resisting the fact that you're up against something and 960 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: you come to the idea that, okay, this is another opportunity, 961 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: then me being not able to have children is an 962 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 1: opportunity to have children in a different way, and that's 963 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 1: what you need to accept, because when you resist something, 964 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: it persists and that thing that will will get in 965 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: your head and get your body and live in you, 966 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: and it's your spiritual work that needs to happen now. 967 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: All of the things you're doing that you said you're 968 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,280 Speaker 1: doing are great. Keep doing them, have faith in yourself 969 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: and believe in yourself, and you're going to give gifts 970 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: to the world that you're not even aware of yet. 971 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: But you have to let go of the thing that 972 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: didn't work out for you. It didn't work out and 973 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: that's heartbreaking and I'm sorry, but there's so much more. 974 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: Once you become available and shut the door on that 975 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: and make peace with it, you're gonna find a whole 976 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: new world that you're able to contribute and love children, 977 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: and whether that's fostering or adopting or just being you 978 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: know somebody who who spends time with children, whatever it is, 979 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: you're going to find your way as long as you 980 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 1: make peace with what didn't work out. You can't hold 981 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: onto things that don't work out. It's just it becomes 982 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: an energy that lives in you and then it directs 983 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: you and you don't want that to run you. True, 984 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: I I appreciate the harshness. I need more reality checking 985 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: because it's something I haven't I've only started talking more 986 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: open lead to friends and family about because you know 987 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: the steep, dark secret and when you're in it you 988 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,959 Speaker 1: just don't want to talk about it all. At least 989 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: I didn't, and I know I'm hanging on. I'm still 990 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: hanging on in ways that are not serving me, not 991 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: that they ever did, but I need to ramp up 992 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: some of my self care in a way to to 993 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 1: to fully let that go. I I agree with you. 994 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, and I do appreciate that. I need to 995 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: hear it in a in a harsh way, I think. Sometimes, yeah, 996 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: we just kind of get so stuck in our own psyche, right, 997 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: like we go around and around and around and around, 998 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: and then you realize you're a cyclone by yourself and 999 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: like the whole world is out there and as soon 1000 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: as you want to be a part of it, then 1001 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: you will be right. Marjorie, I want to say thank 1002 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: you so much for your beautiful letter and for being 1003 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: so open with us, because I think this is something 1004 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: that will help a lot of women who are going 1005 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 1: through exactly what you're going through and just don't want 1006 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: to talk about with friends or family, but hearing your 1007 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: story is going to be really helpful to a lot 1008 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: of absolutely, Marjorie. And also I would just say keep 1009 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: talking about it with everybody you know that you can, 1010 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: like there are no secrets, like keeping a secret is is. 1011 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: It makes everything a little bit more dysfunctional. It's so 1012 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: much better to get it out and understand and then 1013 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: you're going to meet people that have been through the 1014 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: same exact thing and then you're gonna be able to 1015 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 1: help each other. Yeah, thank you, and that that's definitely 1016 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: part of the journey right now and just being more 1017 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: open and honest about it, which is another reason why 1018 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: I wrote in and was just so excited to share 1019 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: and talk to you and, you know, meet everyone. MM. Well, 1020 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you did. Will You keep us posted 1021 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: and let us know what happens in your life? Of course, 1022 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: all right, we're sending you lots of love, lots of love. 1023 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: By Marjorie, by by, I'm going to become an in 1024 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: viture doctor. That's next on my list. I'm just gonna 1025 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: start making everybody pregnant who wants to be. It's so 1026 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: fucking insane. It feels like a natural transition from what 1027 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: I've been doing. You should thanks, very lucrative. I appreciate 1028 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: that kind of sport. Yea while, going from a very 1029 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: serious question into a less serious question, but impactful nonetheless. 1030 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: Jess says dear Chelsea, after years of promising myself I 1031 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: would do it, I'm finally getting laser hair removal my 1032 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: full legs, my arm pets, my bikini line. I'm pretty 1033 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: far along in the process on my legs and I 1034 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 1: love it. I feel like a different person. Truly changes 1035 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: everything about my self, perception and confidence. I thought I 1036 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 1: was going to go full of Brazilian or something close, 1037 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: like a tiny triangle, but for some reason I never 1038 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: arrived at my appointment fully prepped for that. Then I 1039 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: started to second guess if I really wanted to go 1040 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: for it. A Brazilian style has never been a regular 1041 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 1: part of my routine. Then, to top it all off, 1042 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: I saw a clip of you doing a bit about it, 1043 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: saying it was a mistake and now you're left with 1044 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,439 Speaker 1: nothing but to get plugs. I know it was a joke, 1045 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 1: but I'm interested to know how you feel about it. 1046 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: I've got my next appointment coming up soon and I 1047 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: need to decide a sap if I'm going to go 1048 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: for the Brazilian Pikachu. Help Jess on this and then 1049 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: I'll follow up. Well, I'll start because I have a 1050 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: giant vagina, so I can really understand the pressures societally 1051 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,280 Speaker 1: in the summer, with a bathing suit, with a Spank, 1052 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: even with the gene these days, where your whole vagina 1053 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: can be flopping out the side of you, know, like 1054 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 1: it's a ball, and it's not. And so I have 1055 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 1: lasered and I thought, this vagina is so much trouble 1056 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: that I just want no more trouble, and so I 1057 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: did the full Brazilian and here's what they don't tell 1058 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: you about getting older is that if you have a 1059 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 1: little bit of a floppy vagina, it just becomes floppier 1060 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: as you age. And so I think in retrospect it 1061 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: would be nice to have a small crowd cover to 1062 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 1: cover up the flappy vagina lips in my elder years, 1063 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: which I don't have because in my twenties I also 1064 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: went crazy and now anything that's left I'm waxing. And 1065 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: so you know, I like an option just from someone 1066 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: with an old, long vagina. It's kind of like how 1067 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: men will hide some of their facial features behind a beard. 1068 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: You can kind of hide your floppy vagina behind a 1069 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 1: little bit of a Bush, but I like it. There 1070 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 1: are some men I will only date when they're bearded. 1071 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 1: Once a man with a beard, like a hot, hot guy, 1072 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 1: shaves his beard, I'm like, they look like a vagina. Actually, 1073 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: my friend's husband used to shave his beard. I'm like, 1074 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,720 Speaker 1: you look like a vagina, I don't like it. Please, 1075 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: but throw your hair back. I don't like that. Yeah, Um, 1076 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 1: I think the option is nice. I mean, I did 1077 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: the same. I feel like we live in a generation 1078 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,319 Speaker 1: where it was no hair on their vagina and then 1079 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,919 Speaker 1: obviously trends change and you know whatever, but I am 1080 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: hairless down there because hair on my body it makes 1081 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: me itchy and it makes me feel uncomfortable. So I 1082 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 1: feel like, whatever you're gonna do, do what's gonna make 1083 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: you feel the most comfortable. I wouldn't worry about what, 1084 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: no offense with Chelsea is saying, or your boyfriends saying 1085 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: or whoever, like who it feels good on your body 1086 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,280 Speaker 1: because you're never gonna see her a little tray all, 1087 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, like so I don't know, I would just 1088 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: I get so itchy down there that I'm like, I'm 1089 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy with my laser hair removal choices in my 1090 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: early twenties. At the end of this podcast we're all 1091 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: going to show very close up, three d photos of 1092 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: our vaginas and so everyone canna understand the different options 1093 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: that are available. I didn't. I didn't realize my vagina 1094 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: was not great until I was a show girl in 1095 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: Las Vegas and it's great, Kelty. Everybody's Vagina is great. No, 1096 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: it's Great Volva story, but we had a vagina off. 1097 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: There was sixteen girls in the cast and we all 1098 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,480 Speaker 1: stood naked beside each other and looked at each other's vaginas, 1099 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: which was very and there's some beautiful vaginas. Mine is not. 1100 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean she's pretty. I love myself mine. It's not 1101 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 1: that cy too. But I would like to add on, 1102 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: like I got laser hair removal when I was in 1103 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: my twenties so I could swim faster, and then I 1104 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: realized as I grew older, like no man gives a 1105 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 1: fuck what your vagina it doesn't matter if it's flappy, 1106 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you have been any or an 1107 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: Oudy or you hair on your asshole. They don't give 1108 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,439 Speaker 1: a fuck. So whatever you're doing is for you. And 1109 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,160 Speaker 1: I would say, like, I'm not in a bald beaver's 1110 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: like I find that to be very juvenile, like I 1111 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,399 Speaker 1: don't want to look like a little girl. I want 1112 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: hair on my vagina. I would recommend laser in your asshole, though, 1113 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: because that's just nice, but don't bleach your asshole. My 1114 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: girlfriend the other day was like I have to bleach 1115 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: my asshole. She just got divorced she's on the market. 1116 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 1: She's like, I have to bleach my asshole now. I 1117 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: go no, no, you don't have to bleach your asshole. 1118 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: Just fucking laser it so there's not hair coming out 1119 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 1: of it. Only if somebody, if you're waiting, you know, 1120 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: if you're if you're gonna have anal sex. Yeah, like 1121 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 1: keep it as clean as possible. But if you're not 1122 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 1: in an anal then don't even worry about it. But 1123 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: like just keep your options open. There's a bikini line, 1124 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 1: so you don't want your pubic hair to grow into 1125 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,720 Speaker 1: your thighs. That's gross because you have those air and hairs. 1126 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 1: So it's cool to laser that area and, you know, 1127 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: laser around the area, so like on maybe on your 1128 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 1: vaginal lips, like it's not fun to have hair there, 1129 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 1: but on the base, what I call my base of 1130 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: my vagina. I like that to have a scientific terms. 1131 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 1: I feel like that. I like that to be covered. 1132 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: Back at any final thoughts. What about you BECCA? You 1133 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: didn't well, I don't feel like I really don't need 1134 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: to at this point. I you know, I did do 1135 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: laser hair removal and I don't follow through with anything 1136 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: in my life. It's like a theme. So I I 1137 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 1: didn't finish up and so now I just have patchiness 1138 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: that I have to maintain. So like a Balding Vagina. 1139 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: It's really it's not pretty. So, yeah, it's receiving so 1140 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: one credit away from a degree in school. So this 1141 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: is a theme through her life where she doesn't quite 1142 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: hit the nail each time. Almost true, just about there. 1143 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, if you're going to do it, just 1144 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: at least commit to whatever you're doing, because what I've 1145 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: got going on is not attractive. Catherine, what are your 1146 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,439 Speaker 1: views on Pikachu? You know I mean I have a 1147 00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 1: dedicated buzzer. That's how I go. Yeah, US keep it neat. 1148 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: I also don't like when my hair on my vagina. 1149 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: This is probably too much detail, but who gives a ship? 1150 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: It gets too long, like it grows outward. I'm like, 1151 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,959 Speaker 1: I have straight pubic care. I'm not really sure why, 1152 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: but when my hair grows on the base of my vagina, 1153 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 1: it goes curly and goes out like a little boopsie doodle, 1154 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: and I have to cut that sometimes and be like, okay, 1155 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't want this. This is like my version of 1156 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: a boner. Oh my God. Yeah, I haven't had hair 1157 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: on my vagina for so long, but like I don't 1158 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: even know what it looks like. I'm going to send 1159 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: you Americans. I'm gonna send you American and then you're 1160 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: gonna face time me will I'll do a little show. Well, 1161 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: on that wonderful note, we're gonna take a quick break 1162 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: and we'll move back to clothes. We're gonna take a 1163 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: quick break, put on Ourmericans and we're gonna be right 1164 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 1: back party and we're back amazing. Well, this is the 1165 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: point in the show where we like to ask of 1166 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 1: our guests. have any advice you'd like to ask for 1167 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: from Chelsea, Chelsea Goddess Handler. Thank God this. When I 1168 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: read that we got to do this, I was like, 1169 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,919 Speaker 1: thank God. So we are currently like a week out 1170 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: from our first bus and trailer tour and we thought 1171 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: were fancy. We've got a successful podcast, we're gonna get 1172 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: a bus, like all these people on the bus and 1173 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: they're tour and around. It is. I'm saying like it's 1174 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: like planning fifteen weddings with three brides in four weeks. 1175 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 1: It is so hard. So much of my emotional component 1176 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: of like who I am as a person is directly 1177 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,040 Speaker 1: attached to ticket sales. Like, why don't you want to 1178 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: come New Orleans to see me? I know there's listeners there, 1179 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: so like, how do you separate and what are the 1180 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: secrets to like doing a tour without losing your mind? Okay, 1181 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm glad you asked this question because 1182 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: I listen. You have to appreciate everything that you have, 1183 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,320 Speaker 1: not the things that you don't. So if a show 1184 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: is not sold out, or you have a thousand people 1185 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: instead of two thousand in or you have five hundred 1186 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: instead of one thousand, you have to go out there 1187 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: with the notion that there are five hundred people that 1188 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: are there to see you and you give them that show. 1189 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Anytime you are basic in under any other umbrella, then 1190 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: performing and giving the people that are your devoted fans. 1191 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: If that's not what you want it to be or 1192 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,520 Speaker 1: if if you if you're letting your ego run you, 1193 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: you'RE gonna lose. You have to always perform for whoever 1194 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: is sitting in that audience and every time you guys, 1195 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 1: walk out on that stage, I want you to think 1196 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: of me and think of walking out on that stage 1197 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: and saying we are going to give every single person 1198 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: who bought a ticket the best show that we're going 1199 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: to give them and you cannot worry about anything else. 1200 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 1: And that is how you build your audience and that 1201 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: is how you build a fan base and when you 1202 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 1: show up for those people, the next time you come 1203 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: back there's gonna be double the amount of people. M H. 1204 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: I hope I'm listening. I'm putting it in my write. 1205 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 1: Write it down, Kelty, write it down. I absolutely understand and, 1206 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 1: like you know, my person that's trying to be a 1207 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: better person really gets it and I absolutely I'm here 1208 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:12,680 Speaker 1: for it. I just like failure is such a difficult 1209 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 1: thing for everyone. But when you are failing at being Chelsea, 1210 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 1: hand learn, not that you've ever really failed, but I'm 1211 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: sure things don't work out sometimes, like it's like failing 1212 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: at doing my job at Microsoft. I think would feel 1213 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: different than failing as being like Kelty night. You're failing, though, 1214 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 1: but you're not failing. You're working, you're growing. You're working 1215 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 1: and you're growing. There's no failure. The failure is in 1216 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 1: your ego. That is that is not a real thing, 1217 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: that is tangible. That is your shadow voice telling you 1218 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: why don't you sell more tickets. Why do you do this? 1219 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: Why do you to kill this? The only way to 1220 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: succeed is to have a good attitude about everything that 1221 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: comes your way in this moment. So you embrace it 1222 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 1: and you capitalize on it and you don't count the 1223 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 1: numbers and you're not worried about I check my ticket 1224 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: sales every day, honey, I know exactly what you're talking about, okay, 1225 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: but I don't ever go. I mean I've gotten out 1226 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: to shows that are sixty sold or fifty sold, where 1227 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck, and you know what, there's 1228 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 1: some of the best shows I've ever had. You focus 1229 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: on the people that are there for you, and that 1230 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: is how you grow as a performer and as an 1231 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 1: entertainer and all of it, it's all a build, and 1232 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: so it's not happening instantaneously. Everything is a build. This 1233 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: is your first tour. There's gonna be another one, so 1234 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: just keep that ball rolling in that right direction and 1235 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: try to get outside of your ego and just be 1236 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 1: in the moment. Being present is the best gift you're 1237 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: gonna give your audience and yourself. And when you go 1238 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: out there on that stage, you have to acknowledge all 1239 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,200 Speaker 1: the people that are sitting there waiting to see you, 1240 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 1: and you just have to keep playing that game in 1241 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: your mind and running it around and if you have 1242 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 1: to write affirmations or whatever, do that, but just remember, 1243 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: like it's not black and white. It's always like a move. 1244 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, for me, I've been famous for I don't 1245 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,160 Speaker 1: know twenty years and there are struggles and or are 1246 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: times where I get low and I don't believe in 1247 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: myself or I'm self conscious and I have to pull 1248 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: myself out of that. I'm like, you're not here by 1249 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: by mistake, but your behavior and your attitude towards failure 1250 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 1: will bring you down. And if you have a great 1251 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: attitude and you just go that didn't work out, next thing, 1252 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: that's what brings you up and keeps you afloat. I 1253 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 1: have one more question. I know I'm like taking over. Sorry. Well, 1254 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: obviously we're big fans of your books and everything that 1255 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: you do, and our new book, Ladies Secrets, has a 1256 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: lot of celebrity stories in it, like Julie Roberts hates me, 1257 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,479 Speaker 1: Jack accidentally went on a date with Josh Ja Mel 1258 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: and like that. We're naming names in these stories and 1259 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 1: like it's about to come out in the world and 1260 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,320 Speaker 1: like any advice on just like holding true to like 1261 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: the haters and when people are coming at you, or 1262 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 1: like when it feels like it's all swirling. No, you're 1263 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: telling the truth. WHO GIVES A ship? Everybody? Not Everybody 1264 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: gets along. Some people are not gonna like you. That's 1265 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 1: the way of the world. If you think this is 1266 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,040 Speaker 1: a popularity contest about everybody liking you, then get out, 1267 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,480 Speaker 1: because that's never ever going to happen. The only bonus 1268 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: is that anyone likes you, you know what I mean, 1269 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: and you focus on those people. Once again, you focus 1270 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 1: on the people that you're serving, not the people that 1271 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 1: don't want to eat at McDonald's or whatever you want 1272 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: to come. You know not to compare you guys to McDonald's, 1273 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, so do I. I 1274 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: mean I will never fucking love a breakfast more than 1275 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 1: I love that Sausagject mcmuffin. But you just you have 1276 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 1: to serve up what you're you're delivering, like looking around 1277 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: to see what other people are saying about you is meaningless. 1278 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: You saying you don't like or Julie Roberts doesn't like fine, fuck, fuck, that. 1279 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: Who Cares about that? She's not going to be in 1280 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 1: your world. Like Josh Tamel, who cares about that either. 1281 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 1: It's it's better to be truthful and honest than worry 1282 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: about the repercussions. I mean, you don't want to be 1283 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 1: mean and nasty, but like, whatever you know, you're telling 1284 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: the truth and that's okay and you have to be 1285 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 1: down with that and stop focusing on the people that 1286 01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,520 Speaker 1: don't get it. Stop focusing on the people you don't 1287 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: get it. Jack, I need a Jack van of t shirt. 1288 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: I need to sign Chelsea. Can you imagine if Harry 1289 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:08,919 Speaker 1: styles went out on stage every night and was trying 1290 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: to find the mother in the crowd that wasn't into 1291 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: that being there, or the father, and he was focused 1292 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 1: on that? He's like, wait, I have two hundred thousand 1293 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: people at Wembley stating and I don't know how many 1294 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 1: people that sea. It's probably not two hunch with thousand, 1295 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: but and he's looking around, going where's the guy that 1296 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 1: doesn't get me? No, you're looking at the people that 1297 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:29,360 Speaker 1: get you. Yeah, that's such a good point. Wow, man Kelty, 1298 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to that. I'm going to 1299 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: put that on a voice memo on my phone, so 1300 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,959 Speaker 1: when you're being a real cunt on tour, I'm gonna 1301 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: play it for you. Yeah, for sure. Well, if there's 1302 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 1: three of you, there's bound to be one cunt. So 1303 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that's why I travel alone, 1304 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: just the day exactly. Yeah, well, I love it, you guys. 1305 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 1: This was so much fun. What a great episode we 1306 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: have with you girls. I love you girls. I'm so 1307 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 1: glad you're going on tour. Have the best time. Thank you. 1308 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you. Really excited and Chelsea, 1309 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:00,760 Speaker 1: I have one more question. I did send you a 1310 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: giant and I sent you a joint. I sent you 1311 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 1: a joint in the mail and I'm wondering if you 1312 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: ever got it. Wait, hold on, let me see if 1313 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: I have it right here. No, the mail after you 1314 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 1: were on our podcast, you were like send me a 1315 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 1: copy of the books. So I got the address your 1316 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,959 Speaker 1: Po box and I sent the book, but I also 1317 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 1: send a huge gold joint with it. I don't want 1318 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,479 Speaker 1: to sound I don't want to Brag, but so much 1319 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 1: cannabis sent to my house. I have a refrigerator in 1320 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 1: our gym and the guest room filled with cannabis. And Mushrooms, 1321 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: because so my cleaning lady was like, we have to 1322 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: get another fridge. I thought it was so inventive. No, no, no, 1323 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,479 Speaker 1: I bet it's there. I just bet. I haven't seen 1324 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 1: it yet, so I don't want to dissuade you, and 1325 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,880 Speaker 1: when I do see it, I'm gonna let you know. Yeah, 1326 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 1: you smoke that joint, joint gold thing and you think 1327 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: that to Kelty's ego. I will, I will you, girls. 1328 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Thank you so so much. Love you girls. Love you. 1329 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you, cat. Thank you likewise, love you. 1330 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,160 Speaker 1: Joy your good sex life. Thank you. I'M gonna go 1331 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: have sex now. I was like, who me? where? Okay, bye. Hi, guys, 1332 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much. So, if you'd like advice from Chelsea, 1333 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: just send us an email at dear Chelsea podcast at 1334 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Gmail dot com. We have a special call for submissions 1335 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 1: this week. 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