1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Look Mayer. Oh, I see you and look over there. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Wow, lost culture? Lost CULTURESA 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: is calling. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: You were singing the amazing song Dreaming by Blondie before 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: we got into the mic. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, this episode is going to be 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot more singing and giggling in way less tears. Promise, Promise, promise. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Oh stop, I'm singing Dreaming by Blondie and I'm in 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: a really good mood. 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 3: When I met you in a restaurant. 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Can we first say one thing and let's relitigate this 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: because it's really important culture. I wouldn't go back in time, 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't, like, you know, back to the future 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: this because I think everything worked out. I'm about to 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: talk about Trix Mittel. Wow, Tricky Mittel won that she 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: won that lip sync to Dreaming by Blondie in season 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: seven of Rupaul' Drag Race and Pearl lost. 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: Oh, because I was about to ask who did she 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: even go up against? But that was Yes, that was 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: her and Pearl and Pearl was in that snake that 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: cobra outfit was in that like beautiful silk cheap how situation. 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: I will never forget, like I don't think they do 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: What's the Tea podcast anymore? But Ruin Michelle had on 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Debbie Harry and Blondie, who were the guest judges literally 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: for that episode. Yeah, and they were talking about that 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: elimination and Rue was like, but don't you think that 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: gurl was really giving Blondie, you know, And Debbie Harry 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: just goes, no, we like Tricksy. Wow. Now was this 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: like after Tricksy had become Tricksy? No, this was well 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: before this was I mean, the only thing we knew about. 31 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: Trixy at the time was Wisconsin Girl eliminated that episode. 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the first time I ever 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: heard that Trixie Mattel was like popping off in like 34 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: a way that felt like good and individual to her 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: was Dave went to go see her show in Pete Town, 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: like years and years ago, a fixture, and he was like, 37 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: no one gets it, but Trixie Mattel is fucking incredible. 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: And then obviously very quickly after that, everyone got it, 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: and now Tricksy is the legend. 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: The think about Tricksy is like, she will never abandon 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: her roots and she will continue to be a Peetown girl. 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: M she was back, but I think she's on her 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: sabbatical right now. She was just hanging out and she 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: just fucking deserves that. No one in entertainment deserves a 45 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: break more than fucking tricksy man tell and I'm my. 46 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: God, she is one of those people. I have not 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: moved to do this too much. But when she put 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: out that video being like I'm gonna go on a break, 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm. 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: Gonna text the girl. I texted her too. 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: I was like, take as much as you need, Like 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: we all have been there. We've all like fucking fizzled 53 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: and sizzled, and you gotta sizzle. 54 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: You know, she's a sizzler. When you're such a sizzler, 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: you need to take a break. When you're a hot Fahida, 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: you gotta sizzle. I think we are. Are we both Fahidas? 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: Are we in our Fahida moment? 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: I found out there's some like YouTuber who for somebody 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: sent I stumbled on this video where he like teaches 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: you how to like pose for photos, and I was like, sure, 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: I'll watch this. I forget what his name is, but 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: he I don't know if you mentioned the term sizzling, 63 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: but you got to sizzle into a pose. You can't 64 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: just like you can't, like you gotta like kind of 65 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: shake it up, but kind of sizzle it off. 66 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: Like don't just like hold the pose. You gotta like 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: relax into it and sizzle. You know. Yes, I'm at 68 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Fijida for sure. When I'm in front of the camera, 69 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: I want to sizzle it. I want to scintillate. I 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: want to be a Fahida. 71 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: Wow, cut to me naming my daughter Fahida. Oh my god, 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: that's my god gorgeous name? Is that a nominee? I 73 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: think I think the most gorgeous name. 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: What was the category name? Best name for a girl 75 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: that you haven't even thought of yet? 76 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be a category next year for 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: cultural words. 78 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh I love Fahida. Fahida, Fahida. Stop it now? Oh 79 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: that's good? See what I mean? Like already this is 80 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: off to a different foot. And can I just say, 81 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: can I just say something to your podcast to all 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: the readers Katie's publicist finalists who reached out to me 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: after last week, I just want to say that I 84 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: realize how lucky I am to have you guys. You 85 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: all checked on me, and I want you to know. 86 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: I am fine. I had a really hard week and 87 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I went to therapy and I worked some shit out 88 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: and I've taken some new steps and it's fine, and 89 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: I definitely feel all those things and they're all true. 90 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: But I don't No one needs to worry about me. 91 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: They made me a fucking playlist they like collaborate on 92 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: all playlist for me altogether, and they sent it to 93 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: me for Happy Music to get me out of my 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: little Spotify ret that I'm in. I just want to 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: acknowledge and say that we are the luckiest. We're so 96 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: lucky idiots to have you guys, and just love you 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: guys so much. And you because I want to tell 98 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: you something. I had to self immolate and listened to 99 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: that episode for Edits and went through it again, and 100 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: you were just such a good friend to me. You 101 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: are so that girl. I can't no, you really are 102 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: that girl. I knew you were. 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: I knew you were that girl. I went to bed 104 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: the other night. My final thoughts before I drifted off 105 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: into sleep was my girl, Matt Rogers, what an angel 106 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: on this earth? I'm so lucky? 107 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: What made you think of that? When you were laying 108 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: I just had fun. Oh shut up, you fool. Don't 109 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: give yourself credit. Never give myself credit. Promise you girl. 110 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think this is a perfect I 111 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: mean that is a perfect distillation of the pure love 112 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: like I feel especially now fandom, even though I don't 113 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: really love that word, but like a fandom is a 114 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: reflection of the person and the reason why we have, 115 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: why you have these really caring people who made that 116 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: playlist for you is because you give that out. It 117 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 2: is what goes out goes in and vice versa. So 118 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me at all, but I'm delighted. 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: To hear that. Well, I am in love with all 120 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: of you and I always will be. What else? So 121 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: should we get into the fucking colture? Because there has 122 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: been culture? Can I tell you who whose concert I 123 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: saw the other night? You went to Jone Jet and 124 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Elanis Morrissett. I went to Okay. So this was the 125 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: this phenomenon that has been happening lately of I'll just 126 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: be like buying something from a store and the cashier 127 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: will just tell me about an event and I'll just 128 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: go Cashier's No, I told you a few weeks ago, 129 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: I was at the Beachwood Cafe and I think I 130 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: was getting like a green juice or something, and the 131 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: girl was like, I saw the best concert last night. 132 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm the biggest fan of Jesse j and I went 133 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: to go see it and it was amazing, and it 134 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: was like at the Terragram Ballroom. It was like a 135 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: couple hundred people and she was shredding, and like, I 136 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: was like, does she perform again tonight? Turns out she was. 137 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: I went incredible. It happened again. Jared and I were 138 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: in Studio City, like at a weed dispensary and the 139 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: guy was like, I'm going to see Alanis morris set 140 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: tonight and I was like, what the fuck? That is 141 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: a show that I would one hundred percent go to. 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: So then the next night it was Morgan Wade, who 143 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: we missed. Oh my god, Jon Jat we came in 144 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: halfway through incredible, and then Alanis Morrissett bitch. This was 145 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: truly first of all groundbreaking vocal technique. Of course, I'm 146 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: telling you, like you don't think of her as one 147 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: of the singers. She is one of the singers. Her instrument, 148 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: her technique is nuts. 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: Resonant, open like expansive voice, on her. Let me tell 150 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: you she did a performance of Mary Jane. You've heard 151 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: Mary Jane. You know the song Mary Jane by Alanis Morissett. 152 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: What's the man of Mary Jane? Had a hard day? 153 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: I know Mary Jane by Mary J. Blige. Oh nah, 154 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: gimme so different. Also a great technique on her. Well. 155 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: I first knew the song Mary Jane because Nicki McKibben 156 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: sang it on American Aisle back in the day, God 157 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Wow season one, God Rass season one. But then I 158 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: got into Alanis amazing. She did a performance of Mary 159 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Jane at the Key of the Other Night. That was 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: like a moment in culture. It was a moment in 161 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: culture to say nothing of all the hits. You live, 162 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: you learn, Oh give it up for you live, you 163 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: learn on your feet, on your feet, for you, if 164 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: you're in your car, get up on your feet in 165 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: a pod. You better shut up, you better shut up, 166 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: You live, you learn? Oh my god. You know what's 167 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: also funny about Elanis is like she's obviously synonymous with 168 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: like female rage. Yes, and it could not have been 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: more of a joyful show like obviously like towards the 170 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: end she did you ought to know, and everyone was 171 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: popping off. But it was so fun to get that anger. 172 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: Can I say I love anger? Tap in to the anger, honey, 173 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: it's fun to just let it go. Like you should 174 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: have seen me in therapy and EMDR last week. 175 00:08:54,520 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: Holy shit, anger can only be the really, it cannot 176 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: be the fodder for more anger. It cannot beget more No, 177 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: that is that is the only note on anger that 178 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: I have. 179 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: You're so right, but I love anger. Anger is I mean, 180 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: like expressing it in a healthy way has been something. Really, 181 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: It's actually given me peace. That's amazing because I've realized 182 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: for quite some time now I have had so much 183 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: anger that I have not expressed. And in doing this therapy, 184 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing like I finally expressed all my anger and 185 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: I realized what it's really about. And it's been incredible. 186 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: And then going to that concert, I was just like, wow, 187 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: you ought to know, like this is really it's very 188 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: useful for me right now. Oh my god. 189 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: I mean, oh, that is a pertinent song just on 190 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: the note of anger, and to just bring back. 191 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: A piece of culture, like here's some words. 192 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 4: You live, you learn, you love, you learn, you cry, 193 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: you learn, you lose, you learn, you bleed, you learn, 194 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: you scream, you learn. That is life. That is the 195 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: directionality we love to see. All roads lead to you learn. Okay, babe, 196 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: let me tell you something. Never have lyrics been more 197 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 4: simple but also so dynamic. And I'm telling you just 198 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: say nothing of the hook. 199 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: In the way it's written in sung but like that 200 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: is a cathartic moment in music. Like just to see 201 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: it so many years later really hit in the same 202 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: way for this insane cross section of people. I mean 203 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: it was very sapphic, yes, of course, but it was 204 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: also gay, but it was also straight women with their 205 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: husbands and husbands that were really excited to be there. 206 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: And you're talking about someone that everyone respects. Show me 207 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: someone who doesn't respect Alanis Morissett. 208 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: I want to say so in this book Status and 209 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 2: Culture that I have tried to extole it to you. 210 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: You've bought I have it. So he has a timetable 211 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: in there for how long it takes for something, and 212 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: let's talk about it on the podcast and readers, Kese 213 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 2: publicist finalist, let's get your take on this. So this 214 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: is the timetable that he has. 215 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say this is from the book Status 216 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: and Culture by W. David Mars how our desire for 217 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: social rank creates taste, identity, art, fashion, and constant change. 218 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: And actually, kind of on face value, it kind of 219 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: speaks to mean boys a little bit too, because that 220 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: book is a lot about how culture politics flows downhill 221 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: from culture, like in just about like interesting things to 222 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: think about as of late. Okay, so here we go. 223 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: In the book, there is a table based on the 224 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 2: art historian James Laver, published in nineteen thirty seven. It's 225 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: a now famous chart outlining how evaluations of certain trends 226 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: change over time. One year after something comes out, it's dowdy. 227 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: Ten years after something comes out, it's hideous. Twenty years 228 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 2: after its time, it's ridiculous. Thirty years after its time, 229 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: it's amusing. Fifty years, it's quaint seventy years, it's charming, 230 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: one hundred years, it's romantic, one fifty it's beautiful. I 231 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: don't know that that applies anymore. This feels very specific, but. 232 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like I think we're rounding. 233 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: I think like there's been enough of a patina on 234 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 2: Jagged Little Pill that it is a classic for all time. 235 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: But we were talking about Anthony Keatus on our other 236 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,119 Speaker 2: podcasts Two Guys, Five Rings based on the closing ceremony. 237 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm connecting Atlantis to Anthony, and I might 238 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 2: be a little not working, but like there's something about 239 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: those two people to me as we consume them now 240 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: in the culture, as they perform their old work where 241 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: we go, that is a beautiful, aesthetically important thing. 242 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: It's authenticity. And I think that's another thing that I 243 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: was leaving the concert saying, was at no point did 244 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: that feel like a contrived performance at all. I don't 245 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: think there's a contrived bone in her body and she 246 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: obviously I don't think Jaggi Littlepill was her first album 247 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: and obviously was the breakthrough, but I believe she struggled 248 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: for a second and then released Jagged Little Pill, and 249 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: it was this like cultural moment that harnessed like a 250 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: feeling and was able to you know, hit the mainstream. 251 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: And I will say it's not even just the aesthetics 252 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: of what she was doing, which feel like Alanis. You know, 253 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: she had her Alanis hair, she was working the stage 254 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: like Alanis Morisset, like feeling like she had an aged 255 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: a day because probably her spirit, like her authenticity has 256 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: always been there, and that maybe why, like ever since 257 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: Jagged Little Pill, like she's had successes, but nothing on 258 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: that level because she probably was resistant to selling out 259 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: a lot, you know what I mean. Like there was 260 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: the Jagged Little Pill musical a few years ago, which 261 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: I feel like felt a little odd because that musical 262 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: like marrying with sort of like the way the musical 263 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: theater can be in a contemporary sense where it feels 264 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: a little bit like flame, like you know what I'm saying. 265 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, or it's relationship to audience and that never being 266 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: the relationship that Alanis had to her audience, right. 267 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: And I also think like we're talking about these lyrics 268 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: like You Live You Learn, like when Alanis is performing 269 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: them from her authentic place as a then young person 270 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: who's like, you know, working through this, that's so different 271 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: from like you know, six or seven, you know, thirty 272 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: five year olds who booked a musical theater job singing 273 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: You Live You Learn, Like it's just not gonna it's 274 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: not gonna hit the same. But I don't know, I 275 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying is it's like Jagged Little Pill, 276 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: like that's an authentic piece of work and to talk 277 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: about Anthony Keatis, like that's like an authentic artist. Yeah, 278 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: and they're both authentic artists. And there were moments in 279 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: this concert that she was doing things like there's a 280 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: moment where she just spins in a circle for like 281 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: a minute, wow, and then collapses on stage with her 282 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: hair in her face and finish the song obviously extremely 283 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: nauseous and dizzy, and I'm like, she just put herself 284 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: in that state so that she could like get this 285 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: across the way she needs to get it across, and like, 286 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just felt very genuine. Everything about 287 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: it felt genuine. Everything about the messaging was so purely 288 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: from her. Like the second song in the entire set 289 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: was accompanied with graphics that were like it will take 290 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty years for women at this rate 291 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: to achieve equal pay, Like every six seconds, this happens 292 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: to a woman like these. We were two songs in 293 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: and she was like, already, I'm letting you know that 294 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: I am this person who's still concerned about these issues 295 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: and I am still out here to speak to this 296 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: stuff that I've wanted to speak to from the beginning, 297 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: which is about that it's hard to be a fucking 298 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: woman in the way that you're treated by society and 299 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: the men in your life and the fucking narcissists that 300 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: want to take advantage of you and your youth and 301 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: your vitality and your talent and your shine, like that 302 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: is universal. But she hasn't lost that, you know. It's 303 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: like she as a developing, maturing artist, has not lost 304 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: the edge that came along with her in her debut 305 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: and never got sanded down. No, and it feels like 306 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: she just wrote it, you know, like it's like that 307 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: music really still works. It was cool. 308 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: I think it's time for us to announce that Alanis 309 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: Morris sat Oh my god, is in the top fifty 310 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: of the Iconic four hundred. 311 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: No, you were announcing that today. She's in the top fifty. 312 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: That's all we'll say. We can't say where she landed, 313 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: but we can say she's in the top fifty. And 314 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: you know what she is. And if you thought maybe 315 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: we forgot about the Iconic four hundred, you're only a 316 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: little bit right. 317 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: It's coming. It's coming, it's time, it's been time. We're 318 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: just gonna say full disclosure, full transparency for the next 319 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: couple months. Matt and I will be on opposite coast. 320 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna do this over zoom in our respective wherever 321 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: we find ourselves. I guess I was going to say homes, 322 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: but we're not even gonna be home necessarily. Don't worry. 323 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: Matt has since found a sense of mooring despite the 324 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: fact that he is going to be bouncing around this 325 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: great nation of ours. I'm good, but we're just gonna 326 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: be doing this over zoom. So we all we have 327 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 2: made the joint decision to not have as many guests 328 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: in that time because we do prefer it when it's 329 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: in person, that's all. 330 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the guests are sort of a thing 331 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: where it's like, let's just make sure that it can 332 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: be the best version of what that episode is, you 333 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And those are obviously when we're 334 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: in person, and can you know, figure video out and 335 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: do all that stuff, just because now that we've set 336 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: that expectation, we want to keep meeting that expectation. But 337 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: life being the way it is, Bowen and I are 338 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: not always together together. And to quote the title of 339 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: a Patty Harrison film, which everyone should be seeing, by 340 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: the way, it's so good in the spirit Award nominee 341 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: Patty Harrison. I just texted her the other day to 342 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: ask her a question. I got the green text back, 343 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: which is so Patty coded. What happened? I don't know 344 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: where the fuck in the world she is, Like, I 345 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: I wish I knew. She's one of the most difficult 346 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: people to get a hold of. And I will say 347 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: that publicly. 348 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: Yes, and she would talk to that. Miraculous that you 349 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: even got a text back And this is no, no, no. 350 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: I didn't. I said. What I mean is I said 351 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: my text and the green thing came up, and I 352 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well she's either dead or in Europe. 353 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: Let's hope it's the latter. Let's not put that thought 354 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: in people's heads. 355 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: No, I don't think she's dead. Do you think Patty's 356 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: in the Iconic four hundred? Yeah? Yeah, but really low, 357 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: really low. I think she just barely made it. She's 358 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: above Blake Lively, who is having a great week. Did 359 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: we announce that Blake Lively was never to announced? We 360 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: did announce that Blake Lively was number four her. Blake 361 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: Lively is number four hundred on the list of the 362 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: Iconic four hundred, and I guess we should get into this. 363 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: So there's drama. There's drama over the book. It ends 364 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: with us and not just within its pages. 365 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: Oh right, can you fill me in on this. I 366 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: don't really care to know more about the drama. 367 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Honestly. It's one of those stories that I guess because 368 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: she is so famous like that. It's one of those 369 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: things that everyone sort of now talks about because I 370 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: too didn't care that much. Not to say I don't 371 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: love Blake. I do love Blake. I actually auditioned for 372 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: this movie. Oh, I got a new agent, and I 373 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: think he was like trying to send me on more 374 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: like atypical things. So I went on tape. Okay, this 375 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: was funny. It was the week of my breakup last year, 376 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: like a year and a half when I went through 377 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: that thing, and I was so I was crying every day, 378 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: sobbing every day, and I had to cry on this 379 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: tape and you were like, use it. But I also 380 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: had to be straight, So I was like I had 381 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: to like I had to manage, like how to maintain 382 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: my emotion but also seem like a love interest of 383 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: Blake Lively, who by the way, was named Atlas. Gotta 384 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: cut it out. With this name. But it was just 385 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: so funny because me crying as a straight man, like 386 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't really think plays well. You can. 387 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: You were raw enough to deliver on the crying, but 388 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: you there's that extra refraction where you're like, I gotta 389 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: be okay, it's too much though, the wires get too cross. 390 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: Because it's like you're not supposed to have those checkpoints 391 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: where you're like thinking too hard about like how you're 392 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: expressing the emotion. The emotion should just like be there 393 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: or in a way that you christrain it and then 394 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: give it. Meanwhile, like I was not in control of 395 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: my emotions, and you think, oh, this is a great 396 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to go on tape for something emotional because I am, 397 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: And then it just didn't match up with whatever whatever 398 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: obviously didn't book. You're not gonna see me like making 399 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: love to Blake Lively in cinema, I don't think anytime soon. 400 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but suffice it to say I hadn't 401 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: heard about this movie since then. I really didn't know. 402 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: It was like this huge book. It's apparently one of 403 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: the biggest books. And I guess Blake Lively and the 404 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: director Justin Baldoni like absolutely hate each other. It's one 405 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: of those like, don't worry, Darling situations where it's just 406 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: like the director and the entire cast and creative team 407 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: like cannot promote the movie together or whatever the fuck. 408 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: And I don't actually know why. I've heard like rumors 409 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: as to why, but it's one of those situations where 410 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: it's like now bled into the public and it's it's 411 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: that right. 412 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: The only bit I caught was Jenny Slate art pal Love, 413 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: previous guest of the show, being on a red carpet 414 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: being asked like, it must have been so amazing to 415 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: see justin like be like the director and like be 416 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 2: on camera and like, god, what was that like for you? 417 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: And she goes, yeah, I mean I'm totally burchering this. 418 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: But she was like, it's hard to do both. Yeah, 419 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: it's really hard to do. 420 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. She fully did not answer the question, but in 421 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: a way that was very obviously like expertly touching it. 422 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: But also no, it was chic and team Jenny whatever 423 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: side she's on, which I believe is blakes. But I mean, yeah, 424 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: it just seems like one of those things where it's 425 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: very obviously a bad situation and to watch people navigate 426 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: that in public is so it's frustrating obviously because you know, 427 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: no one wanted it like that, But it is a 428 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: little bit funny where it's just like and now of 429 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: course everyone's coming in with their opinions on what it 430 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: must be. You know, it's it's also a rough book, 431 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: and I like, yeah, have you seen the trailer. I 432 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: haven't seen any of It's like half romantic comedy. And 433 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: then this dude becomes like very violent and abusive, and 434 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: so I don't really know how you get that across 435 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: the people. Yeah, I mean tw domestic abuse to the 436 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: nth degree. But that's what the movie is giving. So 437 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: on top of all that, it can't feel good to 438 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: have like strife, and you know, we just hope everyone's okay, 439 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Blake looks great on the carpets. 440 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: It can't be good to have strife. That's that just 441 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 2: applies across the board. And that's actually a rule of culture. 442 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 2: What number is that six? 443 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: It can't be good to have stre And that's just across. 444 00:22:55,160 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: Across the board unless it's cloud strife from Final Fantasy. Steven, Now, 445 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: where does this leave us in terms of this ongoing 446 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 2: conversation culturally that we're all having about the purpose of 447 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: a press tour at this point, it makes me feel nothing. 448 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, just tell me if the movie's worth seeing. 449 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't need to watch the cast play games on 450 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: Vanity Fair, you know, doing like, well, do you not 451 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: need that? 452 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Perfect? I don't think I need it. I really don't. 453 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: Oh got to talk about your girl on hot Ones. 454 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: Arianna absolutely slaid hot Ones. She was HOI rock, she 455 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: was poised. It was graceful the hot ones and also 456 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: and funny. I love the way she talks through her 457 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: experience like she's just like hmm, like she really is given, 458 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: like it started getting Meisner. 459 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: It's very sense memory or is that out there? I 460 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: don't even know which one of that is. 461 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 462 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 2: It's making me realize that I don't like hot sauce. 463 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: So she's very in touch with her emotions. 464 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: As we all know. I loved her hot Ones and 465 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: so this is what I mean, Like, I love hot 466 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: Ones as a press chour, hot Ones, hot ones on 467 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: hot Ones. Need you on hot Ones? Have I asked? Never? Babe? 468 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: Can I tell you something it's not because of interest 469 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: or you don't want to do it? Oh? No, I 470 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: would love to do it. 471 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: I just I think I've seen every single episode that 472 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: is one of my favorite things ever anything in media 473 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 2: that is one of my favorite things. And Sean Evans, 474 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: I think is one of our best interviewers hands down. 475 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: Here's an idea, why don't we do an in person 476 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: with Sean Evans for Lost Culch If you'd be into 477 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: it and do it while we do Lost Culture? Could 478 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: that work? 479 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: I think there's something legal there, Like we can be fun. 480 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: What do you mean, No, it's his it's his ip loo. 481 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: He has to be protective of it. We understand, but like, look, 482 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: we get it, Like, look, we can do I don't 483 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: think some money on watching Happens Live, Sean can't do 484 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: hot ones on Lost Culture stuts, you know what I mean. 485 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: It's like I think there in his court, that's in depth, 486 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: balls in his court, and I'm just saying, hold on wait. 487 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Banna says he did hot ones on Ron Burgundy Live 488 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: and it was very fun and he was very lovely. Okay, 489 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: so we're saying he's connected to the family, just saying 490 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: I would be really excited to do a one. Of 491 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: course he would, and Bowen would too. You like spice, 492 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: can I tell you, I don't know how much I 493 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: like spice anymore, because I used to identify as like, 494 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: like I said a couple weeks ago, like a daredevil, 495 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: and that sometimes included spice. But there are times when 496 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: I am extremely uncomfortable eating out at certain places where 497 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: the spice gets involved. 498 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: God, one thing I was thinking about with you, I 499 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: was like, Matt has really gone on this tear about 500 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: how he would any day rather eat at a restaurant 501 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 2: than anyone's home cooking. Do you are missing out on 502 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: a world of delight and comfort and you know love 503 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 2: that goes into making food. 504 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: People don't cook for me. They don't cook for me. 505 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: They don't want me to come over in well you. 506 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: They don't cook for you because they're not motivated to 507 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: cook for you. 508 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: Get motivated. I'm available, I'm around. No no, no, no no. 509 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: You have love for a man. 510 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: You've disinvited the notion of someone cooking for you. I 511 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: think that's what you've done. I'm calling you in, babe. Okay, fine, 512 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: you're right, But I did not mean to cut you off. 513 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: That's okay. I didn't feel cut off. I didn't feel 514 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: cut off. 515 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I just think for that reason. Ironically, you have 516 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: a comfort with eating. You like to eat what you 517 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: like to eat, and perhaps that is something that is 518 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: corralling you within a certain kind of dining experience, so 519 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: that you are not you maybe are not that adventurous, 520 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 2: and that's okay. It's okay to not be an adventurous eater. 521 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: First of all, I resent that part of what you're saying. 522 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: I am a very adventurous, adventurosus eater, and I would 523 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: think that you know that because you've frequented many restaurants 524 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: with me. What I am not is a sharer. I'm 525 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: not a share. I don't like to share. I actually 526 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: really don't like a family style situation because I always 527 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: end up not getting a lot. No, that's true. Well, 528 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: you ate at Salas on the Bay in Pete Town. 529 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: I didn't like that sharing situation. I wanted to have 530 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: my own Andre. We we had so many leftovers. It 531 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: was not that you did not end up with that 532 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: much food. It's there was so much food left over. 533 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't my preferred thing. Man, Can I tell you 534 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: my preferred thing. I'm about to go create. This is 535 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: big Max and tomatoes all over again. This doesn't make 536 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: any I'm not gaslighting you at all. I'm telling you 537 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: the truth, which is I don't like family style. I 538 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: don't like it. I want we can you know, we 539 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: can share apps, you can have a snip in my drink. 540 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: I want to eat my own entree. I'm sorry. And 541 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: I also say this, I don't like it, and you 542 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: told me your mom does this too. I hate that 543 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: I become like a fourteen year old when my mother 544 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: cuts a big piece of her food and just puts 545 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: it on my plate, and I'm like, don't do that, 546 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: even though it's like only benevolent, why it's not. I 547 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: think it's actually toxically benevolent. Oh my god, toxically benevolent 548 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: title of app. 549 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: Title that my sister and I had so many conversations 550 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: with my mom. We're like, Mom, it's actually it ruins 551 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: the experience. 552 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: It's it's to the point of ruin. No, We're like, Mom, 553 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: we don't. 554 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: We've told you so many it's it's a boundary issue, right, 555 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 2: We're like decades at this point. Please, before she even 556 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: why do all moms do this? Before she even takes 557 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: a bite, It's because she's she wants to provide. She 558 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: she wants to check the box of providing because that's 559 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: important to her. But Matt, she's cutting three quarters of 560 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: the chicken cutlet and plopping it onto our plates, and 561 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: meanwhile we're eating a whole fucking like yeah, gumbo or something. 562 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: You know. 563 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: It's like like hypothetically, we are at Papa Doo's famous 564 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: k New Orleans restaurant, New Orleans style restaurant, Cajun restaurant, 565 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: and we're just like, mom, stop. It really came to 566 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: a head at Papa Does in Colorado, we were like, Mom, 567 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: you need to eat your own meal first before you 568 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: share with us. It's not that we are against sharing, right, Well, 569 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: at this point, it's less a thing. 570 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: And this is like a anytime anyone like take the 571 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: mom thing out of it. It's just when you've established 572 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: that you don't prefer a certain thing to happen, and 573 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: it happens, it then crosses over to it doesn't matter 574 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: if it's a nice action. You're just not listening to me, 575 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: like I don't want that on my plate. In fact, 576 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: it's not even that I don't want it because I 577 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 1: don't want to eat it. I want you to eat it. 578 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: So that is what you ordered and I like to, 579 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: like I've been saying, I'm consistent about this. My entre 580 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: is my entree, okay. And you know that because you've 581 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: gotten your grubbers you I can tell you want a 582 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: bite of that, You want a quote unquote bite of 583 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: that often, and you see my face. Is that so wrong? 584 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: But Boen, you know better. You know that I want 585 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: you my food, you order it. Then if you want 586 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: it so bad when you pick something on the menu, 587 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: that's your entre, you have made a commitment to that. 588 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: But you're operating at a lack of knowledge, okay. 589 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: And I'm realizing that as soon as my mom I 590 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: can't believe I'm going here, but as soon as my 591 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: mom is no longer on this earth with me, it 592 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: will be the it will be the thing that I 593 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: mourn the most. I'll be like, I wish my mom 594 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: could PLoP a chicken cutlet onto my plate. 595 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: And we cannot go down this road because I said 596 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: there'd be no crying camping. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 597 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: I just had to put that out there because that 598 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 2: immediately watched over me. I go, oh my god, what 599 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 2: kind of son? 600 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: Am I? No? Yes? And then you start judging yourself 601 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: and getting angry at yourself for getting annoyed. But it's like, no, 602 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm annoyed because I was asked a question about something, 603 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: which is do you want a piece of this? I 604 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: said no, thank you, And then and then it always 605 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: is are you sure? And I'm like, yes, I'm sure. 606 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: I have all this food in front of me. And 607 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: then well, you know how you know my mother like 608 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: it's always like a conversation with her own self where 609 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: she's like, well, you know, I'm gonna give him a 610 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: little piece, and then she gives me a little piece, 611 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: and I have to get upset on myself because then 612 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: I hear the fourteen year old come out, mom, like 613 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you become you were? Yeah, 614 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: when was your worst stage? When were you most petulant? 615 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: Teenage petulance? I think it was. It's always high school, right, 616 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: It's usually middle school for me. For me, I had 617 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen, I was not cool two people because I 618 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: was not handed myself. That was peak hatred of myself. 619 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: So that you know, you're not pointing out word in 620 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: a good way. 621 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, one's the best diversion of themselves 622 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: at thirteen and. 623 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: That's what contre number eight, number thirteen, actually thirteen. Imagine 624 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: you were Dakota Fanning. Oh stop it, I'm just kidding. 625 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: She's probably lovely. Now, I just mean, you know, man 626 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: on fire, Oh. 627 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: My god, Man on fire, Man on wire, the way 628 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: we're balancing acting now, we love our moms very much, yes, okay, anyway, 629 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: do you think our moms will be on the Iconic 630 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: for one hundred? 631 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: No? I do, But can I tell you who might be? 632 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of moms and the performance of a mom, Joan Chen. 633 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you for bringing this up and 634 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: a half. 635 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: I saw d D And what a movie this was, 636 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: Sean Wang, the director, the creator that you are. This 637 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: was amazing that this was I haven't seen obviously like 638 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: the Compass eighth Grade right like by Bo Burnham. But yes, yes, 639 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: these movies that like get these performances out of these kids, 640 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: these like reed, very emotional, grounded performances from these kids. 641 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: Like it's a genuine journey into what it was like 642 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: to be a millennial in two thousand and seven, like 643 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: a you know, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old kid 644 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: around that time, and just the blast from the past 645 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: that was the aim aol instant messenger stuff. I was like, 646 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: we have to talk about this. The soundscape that didning 647 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: bear when someone logs off and the door shuts what 648 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: that It was such a trigger, Like I remember I 649 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: would used to wait for the girls I had crushes on. Yeah, yeah, 650 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: to into the thing, and I would like, you know, 651 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: like have aim conversations with like Summer Babe ninety eight XO. 652 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. And isn't there a whole smarter child 653 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: scene in the movie Oh yeah, certainly is Oh my god? 654 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: That that hit me hard and soft? 655 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: Did you used to talk to a smarter child when 656 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: like you could tell people had it with you same 657 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: and smart child? Like like I remember I one time, 658 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: I think I said to smarter child, I have no friends, 659 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: and and this happens in the movie and smarter child 660 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm your friend, smiley face, And it's 661 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: just like Jesus. It was triggering because it's like you 662 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: remember that like instantaneous comfort, but also that feeling of 663 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: despair when you think that that is as big as 664 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: your life is going to get, you know, like being 665 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: in middle school in high school and like when you 666 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: feelly people are mad at you. Or you made a mistake, 667 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: or you messed up, or you know, just like that 668 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: feeling of crushing self hatred and disappointment at that age 669 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: because your life is only as big as your high 670 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: school or whatever. 671 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: The fuck of course, but like we cannot underplay how 672 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: important that moment is. I think just in film, like 673 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 2: there's a Smarter Child scene. I don't think this is 674 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 2: the first time we've seen Smarter Child on film and television, 675 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 2: but there's something about that moment in the movie spoiler alert, 676 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: but there's just we're not spoiling it, but there's just 677 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: like a you know, second act low point for the character. Yes, 678 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: and he in his desperation, in his despair, talks to 679 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: smarter Child. And I'm like, this is something that all 680 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: of us thought was just specific and individual to us. 681 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: It was a thing where I was like, this could 682 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: have only happened to me. But this is being used 683 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 2: as a plot turning point in a way that is 684 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 2: supposed to be universal, and like it is like Sean 685 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: Wang being like, I know this has happened to everyone 686 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: who was growing up at that time, you know what 687 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean. That's I think that's incredible, the pang of 688 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: a new chat window, like not the not the low xylophone, 689 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: but the like so evocative, so emotional. 690 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, kudos to whoever to sound designed that for aol, 691 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like going back like that, 692 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: that's forever. Also, there's a moment where my space comes 693 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: into play and the do you remember the top eight, 694 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: top eight? Top even the top eight would eat your 695 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: ass up? I remember there were friends of mine that 696 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: would deliberately fuck with me. Of course I would be 697 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: like number six and then I'd be gone and I'd 698 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: be like, oh is this person on there and not me? 699 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: And just like eight, the number eight was hard because 700 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: you either had four friends or ten friends. You know 701 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's just like no one ever just 702 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: had like eight friends like that fit neatly in there. 703 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: It was like you either had a few and then 704 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: you had to fill it out, or you had a 705 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: ton and you had to cut people and then what 706 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: do you do? Oh. 707 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: I was definitely like, well I've got these three and 708 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: then the five. The other five are cannon fodder. I 709 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 2: wasn't thinking in those terms, obviously, but it's like that 710 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: number dictated everything and your place, Like I ate, like 711 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: it's eight is. 712 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: The most is eighth the most important number? 713 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 2: I think so, oh, and you know Schoolhouse Rock had 714 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: I think the eight song for Schoolhouse Rock was sort 715 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: of the most beautiful and magical and important. 716 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: I don't remember it. Can you perform it? 717 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:19,959 Speaker 2: It's sung from the point of view of a girl 718 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 2: who is skating. Okay, that's how it goes. I'm doing 719 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: this from memory. 720 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: Okay, figure eight or. 721 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 3: Rather four figure four, so rather eight if you skate, 722 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 3: it would be great if you could make. 723 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: A figure eight. 724 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 3: One times eight is eight, Two times eight is sixteen, 725 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: Three times eight is twenty four, four times eight is 726 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: thirty two, and five times eight is forty. 727 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: You know. 728 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: The sensation of deal is like I'm being tickled, Like, 729 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: oh no, that was really evocative. No, there's no falsetto. 730 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's my falsetto. I thought you metvibrato. No, 731 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: there's no vibrato. But it was a little bit of 732 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: a broad anyway. Besides that point that wild Yes. 733 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 2: The top eight moment in the film is huge. Did 734 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 2: you ever put in the code so you could have 735 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: a top sixteen? 736 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 3: No? 737 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know the code. That's so you coded you 738 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: knowing the code is Bowen coded. No, no, no, that's 739 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: as far as my coding went. 740 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: But like there was like a thing you caught, like 741 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: a thing went around school one day of like, oh 742 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 2: well Kayla knows like the the HTML so you can 743 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: get a top sixteen. And I remember, oh my god, 744 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: like every white girl having the Ben Folds five cover 745 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: of Bitches ain't ship where I'm sorry, but this man 746 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 2: is fully singing the un word earnestly like it's it's like, 747 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 2: this is such. 748 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: A moment in time. Do you want to know what 749 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: my song was? My Space song was the entire time? 750 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: Tell me actually something, this is for memory. No, it 751 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: was never actually something because I could never be that 752 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: outwardly gay, right right. If I die and go to 753 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: hell real soon, it will appeared to me as this 754 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: room and for eternity, I'd lay in bed in my box, 755 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: just half stone, with the pillow under my head. Say anything, bitch, I. 756 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 2: Think that is the most still identify. No, but can 757 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 2: I tell you what that signals to me? What you 758 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: were sure of yourself. Maybe you don't feel that way, 759 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: but at least you were like you did not have 760 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 2: the identity crisis that the rest of us had where 761 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: we were. We were changing our song every other day. 762 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 2: And I cannot tell you any of the songs that 763 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: I had on because I was I did not know 764 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 2: who the hell I was, and it just ran the gamut. 765 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: Well, I'll be honest, I knew who I was, and 766 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you who I wasn't. I was not a 767 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 1: someone who was like ready to come out and put 768 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: behind these das of eyes on there, because that's what 769 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: it would have been, you know what I'm saying, right right. 770 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: But I also was not the kind of person that 771 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: was like gonna put postal service on there. I was like, 772 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: this is boring to me. See that was me such 773 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: great heights was the song. See I didn't get it, 774 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: but I so got this. I can't hear you can't 775 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: hear it, unfortunately, No, wait, let me play it on 776 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: my phone. 777 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: Then I don't think so many zoom like filtering out 778 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: selectively filtering out some other external sounds. It's like sometimes 779 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: we need to hear what's being what the dog is barking. 780 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: I have to tell you the people that are gonna 781 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: come out of the woodwork after I play this, Like, 782 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: I know this is going to connect me with so 783 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: many people could there. You're gonna be triggered in a 784 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: positive way. Ready, And I want to see your face 785 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: when I play. 786 00:40:51,920 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 5: It if I go to hell real, so that is 787 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 5: it will appear to me as. 788 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: This room and four incertity. I'd lay in bed. Oh 789 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: my god, that album was huge. Oh my god. Cold 790 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: her on the phone and she touched herself. Oh my god, bitch, 791 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 1: that's when I should have been putting out music. So 792 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: I had have no voice today. None of those guys 793 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: that put out music then have any voice today. Like 794 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: where's Ryan Key from Yellow Card? Wow? 795 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,800 Speaker 2: We have wild Away the minute. I'm sorry, I'm just 796 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 2: looking at the time. Time's fine while we're having fun exactly. 797 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: But yes, I mean just even seeing the MySpace thing 798 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: and seeing the song and everything like that, I was 799 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: like so taken back and that was culture. I mean, 800 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: that was that was the beginning. Yeah, that was the beginning. 801 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 2: That was when we were in the wild wild West, 802 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 2: like totally like unsuper like our parents didn't really know 803 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: like what the hell we were up to. 804 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: On the like my dad would sign me in, like 805 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: I member, he would have to come down to the 806 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: downstairs computer, our downstairs desktop and he would sign me 807 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: into AOL and then he would leave right and I 808 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: would be I would be on there all fucking day. 809 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: I'd be in the weirdest chat rooms. Yeah, oh trust me. 810 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 2: I yeah, It's like it went to bad places in 811 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 2: those chat rooms. 812 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Remember ASL I would lie, I'd lie. 813 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 2: Twenty two eight twenty two f Miami, and I would 814 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 2: fully have cybersex with these men. 815 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Now I would love to read that 816 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: now looking back, like you creating what you think would 817 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: be sexy and hot to hear, like, yeah, I love 818 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: when you touch my boob. Yeah, my dry vagina is 819 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: on your your ass. You didn't even know to call 820 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: it dry. My vagina is getting tickli. I'm starting to 821 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: feel really good in my vaginas pretending to be specially 822 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: active women. I mean, look, all genders rmans. 823 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 2: So I I really want to point out this moment 824 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: in the movie though, where like, and I think this 825 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: is kind of like the whole thing about that film 826 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 2: is where it's like he has a crush at school 827 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: and then they strike up this conversation online and then 828 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 2: she basically says, you're cute for an Asian guy, And 829 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any scoring. It's just this character 830 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 2: sitting alone in a silent room internalizing this really important 831 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 2: formative moment where someone is like flirting with him, paying 832 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: him comblem but like there's an asterisk and it's about 833 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 2: race and like all this other shit. But it's like 834 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 2: there's no like filmically, there's like no sound, there's no dialogue, 835 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,240 Speaker 2: he has no response, Like it's just all completely again 836 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 2: internal And I'm like that is like the millennial experience 837 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 2: in a lot of ways for everybody, not just Asian people. 838 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: It's like there's something about that where like you are receiving, 839 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 2: you are letting these emotional moments land with no way 840 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: to displace them, to like transfer them over to something else, 841 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 2: to like. 842 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: There's no it ends with you. 843 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: You are the final receptacle for that kind of thing 844 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 2: and it has to fuck you up. 845 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: Like that is a crazy thing. You know, the racial 846 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: hierarchy was such an unchecked given at that time. 847 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: But I'm not even saying that. I'm just saying like 848 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: you probably like had moments online where like someone rejected 849 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 2: you or someone made you feel like shit. 850 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: Well, yes you, but just to give that moment the 851 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: way that it deserves, which is that it is a 852 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: movie about an Asian kid and an Asian family, and 853 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: he is living his experience as and like basically, you're 854 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: watching this film and you're just watching a kid. You 855 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: of course, you know, you're sitting there and you're you're 856 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: with him. And then he has this moment which is 857 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: this girl says, and there's been nothing negative about this girl. 858 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: You just think she's a sweet kid. They're having a 859 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: sweet conversation and she just comes out and says, you're 860 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: pretty cute foreign Asian. And it's it's, like, like you said, 861 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 1: it's just presented in the way that it's said, and 862 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't even really land on him in like an 863 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: extra way. He just internalizes it and hears it and 864 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: then they move on. Oh, but it's the first moment 865 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: of the movie where you're like, we're really starting to 866 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: see the coming of age wheels start to turn here. Yeah, 867 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: and it's a really I mean, there was amazing scripting, 868 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: it was amazing directing, it was amazing acting. Yeah, but 869 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: what an important moment because yes, while you are correct 870 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: that like everyone based on their own identity receives their 871 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: own microaggressions, Like we saw a formative moment in that 872 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: kid's life that is in many ways like the and 873 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: I hate these two words, but like the why now 874 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: why today of that movie, and that like he's literally 875 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 1: going through changes. You know, his sister's leaving for school, 876 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna go to the high school, and he's now 877 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: interacting with other people in this way that brings in 878 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: the romantic and the sexual when all these kids are forming. 879 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: And this is the idea that she spits out very 880 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: now naturally, which is that I am attracted to you 881 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: despite your limitation in my eyes right, And that is 882 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: really startling and obviously comes from a very real place 883 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: that I know, my entire theater no one was breathing. 884 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: It was a moment that I will remember for sure. 885 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 2: I mean, you're so right though about this thing of 886 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 2: like we just move on from it. It doesn't even 887 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 2: land on him fully or in an extra way. It's like, 888 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 2: but I think that's kind of like what's being What 889 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 2: the statement is is that this human being is just 890 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 2: going to like live the rest of his life with 891 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 2: that weird pseudo acceptance, not quite acceptance but not quite rejection. 892 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 2: It's like, what's going on there? I mean, like this 893 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 2: connects to like my day today. The first thing I 894 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 2: woke up to on my phone was some fucking idiot 895 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 2: on scruff. I'm on the apps. You can hit me up. 896 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 2: I'm you can reach out to me. I'm accessible. But 897 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: some fucking idiot on scruff going, oh my god, Duel Cambooster, 898 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 2: I love your work. And then what I immediately said to 899 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 2: him was, dude, that fucking sucks. When I called you dude, 900 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm pissed off. 901 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: I hate dud dude if I call you dude. 902 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, I was just like, dude, that fucking sucks. 903 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 2: And then he unferls this huge apology. He was like, oh, 904 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm so sorry. I should have known better. 905 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 2: Both you and Joel have like expressed like, you know, 906 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 2: you guys don't like here and like and I didn't 907 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 2: even respond and then like and then he ends his 908 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: whole pod being like, anyway, I'm so sorry. You have 909 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: to deal with like mid white guys like me like 910 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: saying stupid shit like this, and I'm like, see. 911 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 1: Now you're making Now you're making this thing. I have 912 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,479 Speaker 1: to assuage You're like no, no, no, no, no, see here's 913 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: the thing. And oh, the fucking rage when you have 914 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: fucked up, when you have fucked up, and your instinct 915 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 1: is to then try and create a situation where you 916 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 1: were the victim. Because you fucked up. You need help 917 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: and I cannot give it to you. Once you've hurt me. 918 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: I don't owe you shit, bitch, period. Oh you shit, 919 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: once you have hurt me, period dot. 920 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 2: And I know and this is something that this is 921 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 2: rit small, something that you. 922 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 1: Know all too well, because I will forgive everyone but myself, 923 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: and no if someone ever like someone approaches you like 924 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: that with that stupid fucking like, whether it's a joke 925 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, like genuine misconception or joke, it 926 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: doesn't fucking matter. At this point. You fucked up. I 927 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: told you you fucked up, and you knew you fucked 928 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: up because I said the word dude, which I hate. 929 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: And now it's mid white guys like me. You're exactly right, 930 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: and keep it moving. I don't need to now comfort 931 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, like it's over. You mean you did something 932 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: fucked up. You're right, you do, suck, move on, keep 933 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: it moving, go be unhappy over there. I douce to you. 934 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 2: I did not start this internet conversation with you to 935 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 2: make you feel bad, even though like like this is 936 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 2: the thing now, it's like now we kind of know 937 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 2: how to deal with this, and like you know the 938 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 2: way the internet works today, but it's like in that movie, 939 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 2: it's like in the nascent period of the internet, of 940 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 2: the way that like we were communicating me and no 941 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 2: idea what the rules were and like what the differences 942 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 2: were in real life interaction. 943 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: It's like, God, like, thank god, we've come a long way. 944 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 2: Thank God, I've come a long way personally in my 945 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 2: life to know to like respond to someone who like 946 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: says something racially stupid like that and be like, dude. 947 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: Just just just have some tact And I don't. 948 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 2: And I guess tact is subjective, but I'm also like 949 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 2: maybe it's not like bring back etiquette. 950 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: Can I ask you something? Yeah, if I would approach 951 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: you on the dating app, not me whatever, like some 952 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,760 Speaker 1: some like handsome guy. Let's let's say I'm a little 953 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 1: bit over perfectly midwife guy ready and I approach you 954 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: on the dating app and this is my opening line, 955 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: what what do you say? Hey? I just want to 956 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: tell you I think you're amazing. I think you're so 957 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: great and so funny, like what about that? And then 958 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: and then it segues into like what are you up 959 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: to like or something like that, just starting a conversation 960 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: so lovely, oh my god, or are you like or 961 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 1: do you feel perceived in seeing and you're like, oh no. 962 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: I mean it depends, like I just I just don't 963 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 2: know when someone is like fawning, which is so kind 964 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 2: of them. I just don't know, like, oh, I just 965 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 2: don't know if you're flirting with me, and so therefore 966 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 2: I'll just thank you and then keep it moving. 967 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: That is what's frustrating, right, Like it's like, cause the 968 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: deal is like if you were on a dating app, 969 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: like people they do know who you are, you know 970 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because it's like so you don't even 971 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 1: have the thing of like do they know or do 972 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: they not know? Or are they interested or are they not? 973 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 1: It's like they know who Bowen Yang is, you know 974 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like it so that first 975 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: interaction is a little bit loaded and on top of 976 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: like the rest of it at rest anyway, which is 977 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 1: weird being on dating apps. Exactly. It's fine, it's it's 978 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: there's nothing to do about it. Yeah, I don't even 979 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 1: know what my question is. I'm just saying, make a 980 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: joke to Bonying, especially if it's one that's like. 981 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 2: Well, don't make a joke to me that's about race 982 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 2: and about yeah, like don't like because because that's a 983 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 2: fucking two for because that like makes me feel like shit, 984 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 2: and it would. And now that I'm even bringing this up, 985 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't want to like scare people like 986 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 2: Joel is gonna feel like shit. You know, let's just 987 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 2: cleanse this conversation and just quickly give Joan Chuen her flowers. 988 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 2: Oh my god, because I want you to tell me 989 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: what you love about Joone Chuen. 990 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: What I love about Joan Chen. What I love about 991 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: Joan Chen? What an amazing human actor on screen? Like yeah, 992 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 1: so real, so genuine, so funny, but also very heartbreaking, 993 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: carried a really tough emotion, wait throughout a lot of 994 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: work to do in that performance, playing a woman who 995 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: really every single day does her best. Yeah, until it 996 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: just becomes too much and without saying too much, Like 997 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: there's a breaking point in the movie between mother and son, 998 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: which I just really it's such an important, beautiful relationship, 999 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: The relationship between the mother and a son, especially when 1000 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: the son is struggling because there's a lack of knowing, 1001 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: but there's a deep understanding and it's just so beautifully 1002 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: done in this movie. And yeah, there's a moment of 1003 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: humor like the in the car, like you never you 1004 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, which is just played so well. 1005 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: And also you know, to be the adults on set 1006 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: working with a child actor and like largely with child's actors, 1007 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: Like it's sort of similar to what I was saying 1008 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,200 Speaker 1: last week about Coleman Domingo working with people, you know, 1009 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 1: formerly incarcerated men who are in that movie, who are 1010 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: non professional actors. It's like, you have to be really 1011 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: special talent to make an atmosphere for people that are 1012 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: not used to that feel good enough that they can 1013 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: not only perform, but excel, to. 1014 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 2: Make it truly horizontal, to make it like everyone's on 1015 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 2: the same level. 1016 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is my compliment to Joan Chen is how 1017 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: incredible that kid's performance was. All of her scene partners 1018 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: benefit from being in a scene with her, And I 1019 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 1: just think that if we're talking about supporting performances, like 1020 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: I would love to see a performance like this get 1021 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: recognition by Awards Bodies. I would love to see it 1022 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: go all the way because this is the kind of 1023 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: talent that we should be seeing more of. Like, I 1024 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: want to see her lead something, you know, I want 1025 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 1: to see her do a million different types of roles 1026 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 1: because even in this you know, archetypical part, there is 1027 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 1: so much dynamic work being done, bringing so much more 1028 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 1: to the page. And she's funny and really heartbreaking and 1029 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: she feels like a real mom. You know. 1030 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a great piece on her. There's a great 1031 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 2: profile on her Invanity Fair and I think words buzz 1032 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 2: is kind of a thing with this for her, with 1033 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 2: this movie, and this is someone who God, she was 1034 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 2: telling me she directed this film called Shoeshoe The sent 1035 00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 2: Down Girl. It's about this program that happened during the 1036 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 2: Cultural Revolution when kids from the city were sent to 1037 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 2: the countryside to like work on to basically like work 1038 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 2: in rural areas, provincial areas, to do like hard labor 1039 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 2: for like a full year. My mom did that, and 1040 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 2: she talks about it like a trauma. It is like 1041 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 2: a traumatic moment in her life. It's a really it's 1042 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 2: a it's a hard to watch film. It's like a 1043 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 2: very like it's very thirty round card to watch, starting 1044 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 2: Tracy Morgan, starting Tracy Jordan. 1045 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: They shot it in like Tibet, I want to say. 1046 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: And she was just telling us stories on the stead 1047 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 2: of wedding banker, which she was like smuggling film out 1048 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 2: because she was like if the Chinese government sees this, 1049 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 2: like they will not let this movie go like be released, 1050 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 2: and like this is a fucking badass renegade direct, like 1051 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 2: a true renegade. And and I use that word. I 1052 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 2: do not use that word lightly. Yeah, Icon Last Emperor 1053 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 2: Twin Peaks, which is like a big blind spot for us. 1054 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,439 Speaker 2: I wis should be Twin Peaks gays. I think maybe 1055 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 2: that's like that's like a thing we should embark on. 1056 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I'm interested in becoming a Twin Peaks gad. 1057 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,800 Speaker 2: So all Twin Peaks gays are seem seme with it anyway, 1058 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 2: it same with it. But John Chen, I think I 1059 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 2: think there's a renaissance coming she and to say nothing 1060 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 2: of her like I'm sorry, shallow gay nonsense, true beauty. 1061 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: She is like stunning, a stunning beauty. 1062 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 2: It's crazy, and she is just incredible in the wedding 1063 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 2: banquet and She is equal parts funny devastating. 1064 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: She was the funniest person on set. She is. 1065 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 2: That is a funny motherfucker, Joan Chun And you can 1066 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 2: quote me on that. Right about that. Write that up 1067 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 2: Entertainment Weekly. Okay, anyway, go see Deity in theaters. 1068 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. There are a million reasons to go see this movie, 1069 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: and we've listed just a few of them, but yeah, 1070 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: you gotta go. I actually ran into Mitra. Mitra was 1071 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: there in the in the theater. I believe she loved 1072 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,360 Speaker 1: it a lot. Love Mitra. 1073 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 2: We're Mitris dand are mit Mitris Dand Sean Wang, we 1074 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 2: applaud you. Also, yeah, everyone go check out his Oscar 1075 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 2: nominated short documentary Short nine nine and Why Pole, which 1076 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,800 Speaker 2: is on Disney Plus. And the grandmother in DEDI is 1077 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 2: his real grandmother who is in the documentary. And it's 1078 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 2: seventeen minutes, so heartwarming, so beautiful, beautifully shop Anyway, that's it. 1079 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: I am an official, huge fan and I wanted to 1080 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: say two things. The reason I was singing Dreaming by 1081 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: Blondie Oh at the top was because I saw the 1082 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: most amazing trailer for or a movie I'm so excited 1083 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 1: about called Honora which is Sean Baker. I can't speak 1084 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: of another Sean and I love a Sean Baker's movies. 1085 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: I fucking love this movie. I loved Red Rocket like wild, 1086 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: I love Simon Rex. That movie was fucking crazy. And 1087 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: what I want to say is that this trailer fucking 1088 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: nailed it with their song choice because it's like a 1089 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: deconstructed version of Dreaming by Blondie, which is such an 1090 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: incredible song, and we talked about it earlier, but that trailer, 1091 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 1: like that's one of the best trailers I've seen in 1092 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: a really long time. And this Mikey Madison girl, she 1093 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: might have it all the way. She might have it 1094 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: all the way. I'm excited. I'm excited about this movie. 1095 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a groundswell for Mikey. I 1096 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 2: think she's gonna be the girl. 1097 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: She seems to me like one of the new girls. 1098 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,640 Speaker 1: She seems like the Chapelona film. Yes, and you called it. 1099 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: I might have to make that a real culture now. 1100 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: That might be a real coach. On number forty, Mikey 1101 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: Madison is the chap A film. She's about to become 1102 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: one of the girls really fast, really fast. So just 1103 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 1: watch for that. And the second thing I wanted to 1104 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: say was you mentioned on Disney that there was you know, 1105 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: his short and that brings me to I want to 1106 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 1: talk about the D twenty three announcements. Oh so your 1107 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,959 Speaker 1: takes Fire and Ash. Let's go first of all, Avatar three, 1108 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: Fire and Ash. It's not called the Seed Bearer, maybe 1109 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: because they thought it was a little bit it conjured 1110 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: up images of breathing too much. But yes, obviously, as 1111 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know about Frozen three. 1112 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: I guess we'll see. It really was just like March 1113 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: of the Sequels in terms of like what they announced 1114 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: in terms of film, I don't care that much. You know, 1115 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,120 Speaker 1: what I deeply care about is the theme parks. Yes, 1116 00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 1: did you see what they have rolled out? Because you 1117 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,959 Speaker 1: need to tell me. Sixty billion dollars are going into 1118 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: the the Disney theme parks over the next like several years. 1119 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: And this is just a few of the things that 1120 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,320 Speaker 1: they announced. Okay, So Disney California Adventure is getting a 1121 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,640 Speaker 1: ton of shit, Like they are getting a new Avatar 1122 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 1: world that is going to be based in the way 1123 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,439 Speaker 1: of Water and Fire and Ash, which has yet to come, 1124 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 1: but there's going to be a state of the art 1125 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 1: boat ride, which you gotta go on and check out 1126 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: this concept art. I mean, the money is, the budget 1127 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: is so insane. So the California Adventure, I don't know where, 1128 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: but they're getting Avatar. They're also getting a Cocoa boat ride. 1129 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: It will be the first Cocoa with theme park attraction. Inducy. 1130 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: I love that outside of that, Magic Kingdom is getting cars, 1131 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: not radiator springs racers. So just beyond Big Thunder Mountain, 1132 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: they're going to do cars. There's gonna be a car's ride, 1133 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: and then behind that they are doing a Villain's Land. 1134 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: So this is going to like literally at the back 1135 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,920 Speaker 1: of the Magic Kingdom. It's gonna be like their answer 1136 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 1: to Dark Universe. I guess I knew it was coming 1137 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,479 Speaker 1: because I was like, I know, they're not just gonna 1138 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 1: let Universal just have you know, Darkie, not when Universal 1139 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 1: and not when Disney has like all this, like like 1140 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: they're so famous for the villains, like they should do 1141 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 1: something with the villains. So they finally are. Apparently there's 1142 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: gonna be one like huge e ticket roller coaster and 1143 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: then one ride which may not be as big a 1144 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: deal as that, but that incorporates all of the villains. 1145 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm thinking that Maleficent will factor in big, but that 1146 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: is like the last thing on the agenda, and we'll 1147 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: see if they even get to it. Like Disney has 1148 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: a history, a recent history of announcing a lot of 1149 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: things and then bailing on a lot of it, So 1150 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 1: we'll see if any of this even happens. But they 1151 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: are saying this is not blue Sky, this is now 1152 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: active development, and this includes too. This is the craziest thing. 1153 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: This might be you and me coded in Hollywood Studios. 1154 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Toy Story has been such a hit, there's gonna be 1155 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: a podcast Last Culture to Ride. 1156 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:02,480 Speaker 5: No. 1157 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 1: I would love to see Last Culture Thread Culture rid. 1158 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: It would be a dueling roller coaster. It'd be a 1159 01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: dueling launch roller coaster, journey through culture, journey through culture. 1160 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: Oh no, these the culture have all been lost. We 1161 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 1: have to go get them. Guys. That's so good. And 1162 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: then like you go, no one knows this is part 1163 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: of the podcast. It's behind the scenes. But the ride 1164 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: launches after Bowen yang on Zoom goes three two and 1165 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: then it goes ding do and you zip out. Anyway, 1166 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say is it's so cunty. There's 1167 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: a Monster's Inkland with a Monster's Ink suspended roller coaster, 1168 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: which is based on you know the scene where they 1169 01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 1: go on the doors and they fly through. That's I've 1170 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: been waiting for a roller coaster based on that for 1171 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 1: twenty years and they're doing it. They're actually doing it. 1172 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: It feels like fan service. I'm like, this is twenty 1173 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: years too late, but thank god, because this is that's 1174 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: gonna be really good. No, that's gonna be great. 1175 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 2: But also this just just makes me go, Matt Rogers 1176 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 2: needs to enter his Kingdom Hearts era because Kingdom Hearts 1177 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 2: three you go to Monsters, you go to Monsters Inc. 1178 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 2: And Monstropolis, they say, and they're like, writing the doors 1179 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 2: is a whole thing. Yes, I know the feeling of 1180 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 2: writing the doors, not spatially but in video game, which 1181 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 2: is pretty close. 1182 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: Anyway, I want to know more. I will look into it. 1183 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,920 Speaker 1: So basically, okay, So just to return to California Adventure, 1184 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 1: the Avengers E ticket ride, it's they're finally pulling the 1185 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: trigger on that. I guess like they've been threatening for 1186 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 1: years because that Avengers Land Avengers Campus in California Adventure 1187 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,440 Speaker 1: feels like it's really missing something because it is. So 1188 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: they're getting a huge e ticket that's going to basically 1189 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 1: use like the Multiverse of course, and it's going to 1190 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: be like an Avenger's like larger Grand Scheme Marvel ride 1191 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: that will probably use like literally everyone. And then outside 1192 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 1: of that anim looking to them, they're going to redo 1193 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: the Dinosaurs Land and that's going to be Indiana Jones theme. 1194 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,959 Speaker 1: It's going to be themed to Tropical Americas. So there's 1195 01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a Mowana attraction finally, and there's it's like 1196 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 1: an attraction. It's gonna be a Palm Springs attraction. You're 1197 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: gonna go sit at the bar of the cow and 1198 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: get really tan and drop America. You actually aged sixty 1199 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,800 Speaker 1: years in three and a half minutes, and Vicky Gondols 1200 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: is sitting outside at a table. Have we ever said 1201 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: on the podcast at the time. We went to Tropical 1202 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 1: and Vicki gon Wolson was just there the o g Oz. 1203 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 2: And then we were all Metro was there too, and 1204 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 2: then we were all Stone and then there was an earthquake. 1205 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 1: There was an earthquake. 1206 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were at the same restaurant as Vicky gon 1207 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 2: Wolson and when the earthquake hit in Palm Springs. 1208 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Wow, by the way, there was an earthquake just now. 1209 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:41,439 Speaker 1: I know again, No, that's driving it was it's it's 1210 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 1: I never feel them. It's so weird. I don't know why. 1211 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I just never feel them. And then I look at 1212 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: my my text and my friends are going off like screaming, 1213 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: like doing the thing with all caps exation earthquake. Like 1214 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: imagine just seeing that and you felt nothing. 1215 01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 3: I have it. 1216 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I have a theory. You don't. Oh God, I wish 1217 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,880 Speaker 1: I didn't feel sometimes. I think you have shock absorption 1218 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,400 Speaker 1: all in the ass. Uh, you're obsessed with my ass lately. 1219 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I have to gasp up my sister. You 1220 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: really think it's looking good. I work, I work on it. 1221 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 2: I think the butt is taking all of the the earthquake. 1222 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 2: I think you are helping pure Thank God. 1223 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: That's why you need. We need to keep me on 1224 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: earth because I need I need to sockers. What is it? 1225 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: Soak up this absorption with I guess which is now 1226 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: as it's it's it's now qualified as dad ass. It's 1227 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 1: not just MAT's ass anymore. It's no dad ass. It's phrase. 1228 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean to say nothing of your behind, which I've 1229 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: noticed has gotten larger. No, you don't have to We 1230 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: don't have. 1231 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 3: To do this. 1232 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 1: See how come you're allowed to do it with me 1233 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: and I can't do it with you. Well, I feel 1234 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: like you must have felt set up to, you know, 1235 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 1: compliment my ass. Know what happened was we were going 1236 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Kimmel Alive and we were wearing those tracksuits 1237 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: and I was walking behind you and I was like, 1238 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, your ass and because it was popping 1239 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: because you had told me about the group bridges. 1240 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was the same time I think I 1241 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 2: had previously before you pointed out my ass. 1242 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,600 Speaker 1: Day went Matt. No, it was after, I don't think 1243 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 1: so you said something about my ass. Literally, like thirteen 1244 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: years ago, we were in rehearsal for pop Roulette, and 1245 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I remember you just threw out there. You were like, 1246 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Matt has the best ass, and I remember being like, 1247 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, like because I had never really heard 1248 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: that before. And then years passed and then we were 1249 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,479 Speaker 1: walking to Jimmy Kimmel and you made a comment about 1250 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 1: my ass and I was just like, all right, am 1251 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: I allowed to compliment. 1252 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 5: I love it. 1253 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 1: I think it's great, and it's very encouraging for me. 1254 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,400 Speaker 1: It means I would like to continue the group bridges 1255 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and all the work I'm doing at the Great Institution Berries. 1256 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: We love you, o Berries. I'm there every day except 1257 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 1: one day. I really shouldn't be doing it every single day, 1258 01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: but I'm obsessed. 1259 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 2: Everyone has called me in and said, seventy five hart 1260 01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:07,800 Speaker 2: is structured exercise and eating disorder, and listen, you might 1261 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 2: not be wrong, but I also I think for now 1262 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 2: it's just laying the groundwork for some healthier choices and habits. 1263 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,920 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this for all time. 1264 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: So I hear you. I hear you. Listen. Sometimes you 1265 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: have to go a little far and then pull it 1266 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 1: back like so I don't. I often don't think it's 1267 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 1: a bad thing, no matter what it is. Like with diet, 1268 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,640 Speaker 1: it's always like you could always err on the side 1269 01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: of your probably being too hard on yourself. But I 1270 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: think with any goal setting, it's okay to start in 1271 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: a more extreme, loftier goal and then see where you fall, 1272 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, like, I think that's better. 1273 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,280 Speaker 2: It's shooting for the moon, landing amongst the stars, and 1274 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,120 Speaker 2: the diet thing is the thing that I'm the least 1275 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 2: strict on. 1276 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm eating very well as you should. So it's okay. 1277 01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 1: And guess what. Guess where that goes the ass. Yeah, 1278 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,959 Speaker 1: so just think about that a little bit. I wanted 1279 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 1: to say, we had a wonderful time my launch. It 1280 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: happens live. We met I had met her before, but 1281 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 1: watching your reaction to britaway Field coming in was so fun. 1282 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 1: You were you were joyful. 1283 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 2: She's everything, She's everything, our our Jessica Rabbit, She's everything. 1284 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Okay. And if you think we didn't get all the 1285 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: tea about Rony season two, you're wrong. And guess what, 1286 01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Britna is gonna come on the pod. We're gonna figure 1287 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,080 Speaker 1: it out for September. 1288 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 2: I we're excited about it that it's happening, and we're 1289 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 2: selective with the housewives just saying. 1290 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Very but that was a moment. That was a moment 1291 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 1: where we were like, I mean, we have to spend 1292 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 1: more time with this woman. We have to. She's just 1293 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 1: mesmerizing and it was real. It's real. Okay, so she's 1294 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: coming on. It was very real, like it's giving parv. Actually, yes, 1295 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's it. I was, does she remind 1296 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 1: me of It's parv. It's because it's shear, sheer, star 1297 01:07:54,600 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: quality combined with that flirtatious, flirtatious straight woman flirt with us, 1298 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: which I love. 1299 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 2: It's not like pandering to like, it's not like not 1300 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,640 Speaker 2: at all. First of all, we need to come up 1301 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 2: with a new I think I think this is there 1302 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 2: is a cultural conversation happening right now where everyone's like, 1303 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 2: we need a new term instead of fag hag because 1304 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,640 Speaker 2: it's demeaning to both it's avolved. 1305 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,840 Speaker 1: I haven't said fag hag in fifteen years. There's just 1306 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 1: got to be a different word that is like Judy. Sure, 1307 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 1: let's say Judy. It's Judy quality. We liked her a lot, 1308 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: we liked her a lot, but it's ParvE. It's totally ParvE. Also, 1309 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 1: can I say, usually the Teresa people are are like 1310 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 1: really noxious to me after I'm on watch it happens live, 1311 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: because I don't make any qualms about what I think. 1312 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: It's very soft this time, because I can tell they're defeated. 1313 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a fucking look I said, I fully said, 1314 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,680 Speaker 2: she has a lobe missing. You sure did, And I'm 1315 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 2: not hearing a peep from these freaks. 1316 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all set with our opinion. Also, can I 1317 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 1: say Teresa Judas is a Trump supporter who was married 1318 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 1: to Joe Judaice, so none of us should be surprised 1319 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,639 Speaker 1: that Louie is like toxic and horrible, Like this woman 1320 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: does not know what it is like to not participate 1321 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: in anoxious, toxic, patriarchal culture. It's a failing of the 1322 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 1: environment that she came up in, and I came up 1323 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,000 Speaker 1: in a very similar one, so I do have a 1324 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 1: bird's eye on it, Like she is someone she advances 1325 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 1: that she expands that environment. Sorry, actually, yeah, she did 1326 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,840 Speaker 1: nothing to curb anything make it better. And now it's 1327 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 1: like now you can even see in this last season, 1328 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 1: like Gia is going to move in with her boyfriend 1329 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 1: right away, and she's like Teresa's like, I just wish 1330 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: she'd live alone because I never lived alone. It's because 1331 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,200 Speaker 1: like she knows that her life could have been different 1332 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 1: had she maybe stepped out and been you know, her 1333 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,639 Speaker 1: own person for a while. Like maybe now she wouldn't 1334 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:56,599 Speaker 1: be literally shriveling, losing weight, anxious, like dying because her 1335 01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,920 Speaker 1: like a new husband, is dealing with eagle shit left 1336 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,360 Speaker 1: and right. Because probably there's something going on there. And 1337 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 1: my big thing too, is it's like, why are we 1338 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,240 Speaker 1: so comfortable just calling Louie's X crazy, Like no one 1339 01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: wants to wonder about why she's has these problems, Like 1340 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,960 Speaker 1: no one wants to take all these people coming out 1341 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: of the woodwork seriously, like no one thinks no one 1342 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: that's team Teresa thinks that there's not something smoke and 1343 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,680 Speaker 1: fire about the hole Louis thing like, really, but these 1344 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,599 Speaker 1: people are morons? No exactly. 1345 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 2: I mean that is like the classic biggest red flag. 1346 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,200 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, you're you're dating somewhere, you're with someone, 1347 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: and all the ex'es are quote unquote crazy. Me thinks 1348 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 2: not the red flags couldn't be clear, and you hate 1349 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 2: to see it. You hate to see it's red flags. 1350 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:52,320 Speaker 2: It's crimson banners. Sometimes something's bigger than a red flag 1351 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 2: and it's a crimson banner. 1352 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, those are even harder. 1353 01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Clock When something is so crazy that it's beyond a 1354 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 1: red flag, it's a crimson banner, you actually think like, oh, well, 1355 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: this can't this, this must be the way that this 1356 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 1: needs to be dealt with because it's so huge, you know, 1357 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 1: what I mean, like, this can't be a red This 1358 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 1: isn't this this is just like a necessary like thing 1359 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm putting myself through because it's so crazy. I think 1360 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 1: that's what's happening with Louis. But yeah, it's not like 1361 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,680 Speaker 1: little tiny things like oh that's weird the way they 1362 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 1: talk to the waiter, or oh that's weird, like, uh, 1363 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,599 Speaker 1: they didn't know this about, you know, someone they're supposed 1364 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 1: to be close to, you know, Oh that's weird. Like 1365 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: they a little white lie about this thing that I 1366 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 1: caught them in. That's weird. It's like those are sometimes 1367 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,559 Speaker 1: easier to track, and the big things are like, well, yeah, 1368 01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's a big thing. 1369 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 2: Well, the big things for this guy are He's literally 1370 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 2: saying in the finale, I hope Marge's children, his son, 1371 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 2: her son suffers as much as I have suffered. Don't 1372 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 2: wish that upon a fucking kid. Don't wish that upon 1373 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 2: someone who's like of a different generation than It's like, 1374 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:07,320 Speaker 2: don't don't. Just that's fucking wild. Anyway, I don't want 1375 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 2: to talk about these people. 1376 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: He's the worst person on television and would love to 1377 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 1: not watch him anymore. 1378 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,679 Speaker 2: I'm totally Okay, whatever happens with Jersey, God bless let's 1379 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 2: give this a Viking funeral, shoot our fiery arrow into 1380 01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,480 Speaker 2: the sky. I did that in my mentally with Potomac. 1381 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, my life has been a million times better 1382 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 2: without Giselle Bryant and Nashley Darby and all these other 1383 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 2: fucking people. 1384 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Meah, Thornton like, I don't miss these people for shit. 1385 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the fact is, though they will be back, 1386 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 2: no I know, but it's gonna be in my life. 1387 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 2: I won't be back as long as they're on the show. 1388 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just won't. 1389 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: Look. 1390 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,200 Speaker 2: There are bad people in that, in that little environent. 1391 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 2: We love all those people and Bravoland, but there are 1392 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 2: people that are concentric circles around that that I'm like, oh, 1393 01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 2: I am not getting anywhere near. 1394 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Y'all say no more, because I learned that the hard way. 1395 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,120 Speaker 1: All right, So let's get into I don't think so honey, 1396 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 1: before we actually do that with our life. And I 1397 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 1: have something to say. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I 1398 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 1: don't think so many as time starts yet, I don't 1399 01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,560 Speaker 1: think so honey, that Barack Obama actually listens to the 1400 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,439 Speaker 1: song three sixty five by Charlie XCX, which he would 1401 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 1: suggest when he put out his Barack Obama summer playlist. 1402 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:39,519 Speaker 1: Barack Obama listened to me maybe von Dutch, maybe three sixty. 1403 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 1: But I do not think that you, Barack Obama. Former 1404 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,640 Speaker 1: President Barack Obama listened to three sixty five, and I 1405 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 1: think you need to just pull it back a little bit. 1406 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: You really you went too hard, like the intern jumped out. 1407 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 1: I understand, we're having a brat summer. We're all very 1408 01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:01,040 Speaker 1: excited about Kamala. You showed your ass there. Yeah, because 1409 01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 1: I know that you're not listening to that song, which 1410 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,479 Speaker 1: is mostly about doing keys and bumps. I just don't 1411 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,000 Speaker 1: buy it for you, Barack, and I wouldn't want to. 1412 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you who I buy on your list. Lucinda Williams. 1413 01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,879 Speaker 1: That's who I that's giving me Barack her five seconds. 1414 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 1: I see that I stand as well. Charlie xx's three 1415 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,840 Speaker 1: sixty five, maybe vondutche three six five. I don't think so, honey. 1416 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 2: And that's one minute anything Barack and ag Cook the 1417 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:32,519 Speaker 2: dare doesn't really doesn't. 1418 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it. And that's a very highly curated 1419 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:39,120 Speaker 1: anticipated list like whenever his shit comes out. That's like, 1420 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,559 Speaker 1: this is my favorite movies of the year. They always 1421 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 1: make the rounds and I'm like, I've always bought it 1422 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 1: and been like, oh cool until I was not three 1423 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,040 Speaker 1: six five by Charlie x X and I was like, no, 1424 01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: someone on your team said this should be on there. 1425 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,879 Speaker 1: You don't like this song. Going back to helanis not authentic. 1426 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he could never be Alanis. And I say 1427 01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 1: this as a Barack fan. 1428 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Read the Status, Status and Culture Book. There's a whole 1429 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 2: thing like it's like it's signaling and the authenticity plays 1430 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 2: into it, and it's like when you spot the inauthentic 1431 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,760 Speaker 2: thing like that, it's it's game over, Like we might 1432 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 2: be seeing that. 1433 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't know who can mean. I'm telling you. I'm 1434 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,639 Speaker 1: telling you. If it was done dutch by, I'd be like, okay, 1435 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 1: if it was grow so confusing, I would be like yes, 1436 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 1: three six five, I don't know. And if someone I welcome. 1437 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 2: Proof, I think readers Katie's public is finalists way and 1438 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,120 Speaker 2: yeah we in do we think Barack Obama, the forty 1439 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:36,559 Speaker 2: fourth President of the United States, has like me, listened 1440 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 2: in a ketamine stupor to three six five and understood 1441 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 2: what's going on there. 1442 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,599 Speaker 1: I guess that's another thing too, is it's like it's 1443 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 1: so it would suggest he understands that culture in a 1444 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,800 Speaker 1: way where I'm like, maybe, how do you Yeah, even 1445 01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 1: if you do, I don't want to hear about it, 1446 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like I don't need 1447 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 1: to know that Barack. Is that I'm saying. It's like, 1448 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,360 Speaker 1: if that's what he thinks, cool? Is it rubbed me? 1449 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I just don't. 1450 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,800 Speaker 2: It's just sometimes it's I felt for a couple of 1451 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 2: years it's been giving Steve Desmy like me and how 1452 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 2: do you do fellow kids? 1453 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: How do you do fellow kids? Anyways, this is Bowen 1454 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 1: Yang's I don't think so, honey. Are you ready to go? 1455 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,479 Speaker 2: I'm ready to go, and Bowen Yang's time starts now. 1456 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. I know there is a 1457 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 2: lego version of Fanny in the Wicked Lego collection that 1458 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,559 Speaker 2: it's coming out. I listen, I'm buying it. I'm gonna 1459 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,680 Speaker 2: buy it for my nieces and my nephew. But I 1460 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 2: know there was a Fanny lego and it's not being sold, 1461 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 2: and I'm a little hurt. And listen, I'm an ancillary character, 1462 01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 2: but I think I look, they're using me in some 1463 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 2: of the trailers. I'm in the Fierro trailer, every trailer 1464 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,040 Speaker 2: that I improvised, and I kind of think Fanny's gonna 1465 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,720 Speaker 2: is gonna slay and the people are gonna want a 1466 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:55,280 Speaker 2: Fanny lego. 1467 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Trust their to believe. 1468 01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna I'm gonna advocate for myself 1469 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:03,599 Speaker 2: and gas myself up. Fanny is a fucking legend. I'm 1470 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 2: so proud of I'm so proud of what we do 1471 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 2: with Fanny. I'm laughing because it's just it's funny to say. 1472 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,680 Speaker 2: But I would love to see the Fanny lego. Look, 1473 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 2: they did a whole lego Fanny trailer, right, I'm sorry, 1474 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,800 Speaker 2: they did a whole Lego trailer to like the long 1475 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,040 Speaker 2: extended trailer of Wicked and Fanny has there's a Fanny intentionon. 1476 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 1: I know there's a Fanny lego. I would love to 1477 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 1: see the Fanny lego sold in stores. And that's one minute. 1478 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,280 Speaker 1: And let me just agree roundly that we need to 1479 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 1: see a lego Boone Yang as Fanny, please, at least 1480 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,320 Speaker 1: limited edition, you know what I mean. At least for 1481 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 1: a short time only you know what I'm saying, and like, 1482 01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 1: at least produce enough so that people can get them 1483 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,679 Speaker 1: as a collector's thing. Who doesn't want a little lego? Bowen, 1484 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:46,880 Speaker 1: are you kidding? 1485 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,800 Speaker 2: Funny collector's item me with that cunty little hair and 1486 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 2: glasses like, come on, it's good hair. This is not masturbatory. 1487 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 2: It's just like, I think that would be a fun lego. 1488 01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 1: I think it will be great. Come on, I think 1489 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 1: it will be great. By the way, that was a 1490 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 1: good trailer, and I had been waiting for more. Johnny 1491 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:10,640 Speaker 1: the character triggers me. Serrao triggers you. Wait, yeah, I 1492 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,160 Speaker 1: don't like that kind of guy. I don't know. No, no, no, 1493 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,120 Speaker 1: he's I read for please, I did read for that part. 1494 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,439 Speaker 1: You did read, but you don't like don't like that guy. 1495 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 1: Don't like that guy fiero. He's up to he gets 1496 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,719 Speaker 1: his come up and he sure straw turns the straw 1497 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:33,479 Speaker 1: like all narcissist should No, I'm sure, I'm sure it'll 1498 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: be wonderful. Uh looks good. That's good. That should be. 1499 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,560 Speaker 1: You know the drink your milk shirt? I have the 1500 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,560 Speaker 1: drink your milk shirt. Me too, Thank you, Thank you. 1501 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:46,080 Speaker 1: Josh should wear it when john comes on the Johnny 1502 01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,719 Speaker 1: of course, when Jonathan comes on the podcast, we should 1503 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: wear it. 1504 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 2: We definitely shouldn't anyone who is out there playing Final 1505 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 2: Fantasy fourteen britis Kase's help us finalists who play Final 1506 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 2: Fantasy fourteen. I do think there should be a subgroup 1507 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,519 Speaker 2: of gamers. I say, no, You're all are out there 1508 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 2: because we're connecting. So Jonathan Bailey does a voice in 1509 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 2: Final Fantasy fourteen. Oh fun as Grahatia, the Prime cat 1510 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 2: Boy the Crystal exarc, and he's so good in it, 1511 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 2: and I literally like massive, wonderful actor. But like the 1512 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 2: dialogue in that game is like Shakespearean, It's beautiful. But 1513 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,320 Speaker 2: one day after we react, I was like Jonathan, Johnny 1514 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:25,519 Speaker 2: as I call him, I said, I have to commend 1515 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,559 Speaker 2: you beg and I was like, I have to implore 1516 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,680 Speaker 2: you because they every two years they come out with 1517 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 2: expansions and it's like more and more story and it's 1518 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,439 Speaker 2: like it's like a TV show basically, And I'm like, Johnny, 1519 01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,120 Speaker 2: you have to keep voicing Grahatia for as long as 1520 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 2: you are working, for as long as they ask you, 1521 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 2: because it is some of your best work. Anyway, what 1522 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 2: did he say? He said, all right, don't really know 1523 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,759 Speaker 2: what it is. I just but I read the dialogue 1524 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:50,360 Speaker 2: and it's amazing. 1525 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: But I think. 1526 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 2: We will ask when Jonathan Bailey comes on Last Coach, 1527 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 2: there will be a dedicated section about Final Fantasy fourteen 1528 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 2: and all the cat Boy lovers will be very happy. 1529 01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,559 Speaker 1: And he is coming on. We're gonna have many people 1530 01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,200 Speaker 1: from the cast of Wicked, if you can believe, we 1531 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,720 Speaker 1: have vested interest in that movie's success, and we will 1532 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,880 Speaker 1: make all the help exceeds. We will make sure it 1533 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,360 Speaker 1: makes back every dollar of the budget. We are going 1534 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 1: to make sure that Wicked makes it over the hill. 1535 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,880 Speaker 1: Trust it and believe. And it starts with Johnny Bailey 1536 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 1: on the podcast and more to come and more to 1537 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 1: come if you can kind of guess. 1538 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been another episode of Lost Culture's Tests 1539 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,240 Speaker 2: and a little teaser for Iconic four hundred, which I 1540 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 2: think we should get to work on, which is not 1541 01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 2: to say, oh, I'm just kidding. The list is already locked. 1542 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 2: We know the entire list already, and we will be 1543 01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,559 Speaker 2: revealing that in the coming weeks, won't we for sure? 1544 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,720 Speaker 1: And that's something we can do remotely, so, but we're 1545 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,719 Speaker 1: going to be together actually shortly. Oh we just talked 1546 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 1: about how we're not going to be together, but we 1547 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,599 Speaker 1: are going to be together for like two weeks. Did 1548 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 1: you know that. Let's figure something out because you're coming 1549 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 1: to La, then we're going to Fire Island, and then 1550 01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in New York. So we're together 1551 01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,080 Speaker 1: a lot bit actually working hard to bring you guys content. 1552 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 1: In fact, we're working very hard. This is a very 1553 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: fruitful time and we are taking advantage of it trying 1554 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 1: to write some wrongs. Oh well, we end every episode 1555 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 1: of the song No One mourns the weeked. 1556 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:22,600 Speaker 3: Wacked. 1557 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:36,080 Speaker 1: We look for that one on November twenty seventh, twenty second, 1558 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,880 Speaker 1: twenty second. Oh they changed it. They changed it. They 1559 01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,240 Speaker 1: moved Ariana I think said twenty seventh on Hot Ones. No, 1560 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 1: she said, twenty second, twenty second. 1561 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 2: Really hold on, let's say no, no, hold on November 1562 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,519 Speaker 2: twenty second, because they moved it up so that it's 1563 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 2: like Wiki eight. 1564 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,720 Speaker 1: And now it's clicked. No, is it wicked? Eier? It 1565 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:54,639 Speaker 1: needs to be clicked. 1566 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:59,280 Speaker 2: Okay, click it, click it, Jimmy glicked Bye bye last 1567 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,639 Speaker 2: Culture recas Is Production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players 1568 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 2: in iHeartRadio Podcasts. 1569 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,280 Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yang. 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