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Speaker 2: Welcome to the solid verboll.

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Speaker 3: That for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: for a day?

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Speaker 2: Edith State is that?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoo?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sliverbo Boys and girls. My name

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Speaker 3: is Tye Heldon Brandt. His name Dan Rubenstein, Sir. Welcome

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Speaker 2: How are hey always a pleasure? Ty Thanks for having

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Speaker 2: that's you subtly channeling your inner Brian Kelly. Fam my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially when there is earth shattering news around

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Speaker 2: Are they real? Are they?

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Speaker 1: No? They can't be real. Suddenly they are.

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Speaker 3: Suddenly he's on the basketball court doing the accent, which

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Speaker 3: honor today, Jordi Killatta you know from the Jordi Killada Show.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk through pretty much everything else, see

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Speaker 3: year one debrief Dan. As you know we've been going through.

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Speaker 3: We've done a handful of coaches. Now we're going to

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Speaker 2: LSU is a fascinating program, fascinating team. And you yourself

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Speaker 2: may have just been a year early with regard to

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Speaker 2: Brian Kelly dealing with a quarterback controversy. It is true.

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Speaker 2: you weren't wrong, Ty, Maybe you were just early.

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Speaker 2: happier with a single person on their defense than LSU.

432
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,159
Speaker 2: Is that Harold Perkins. It's wearing LSU colors. Did they

433
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 2: have any idea what they had in Harold Perkins? Obviously

434
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: five star wanted by every single major program in the country,

435
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 2: but to come in and look as polished and as

436
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 2: comfortable and as instinctive. Forget even the physical gifts, but

437
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 2: just the know how that Harold Perkins had intellectually on

438
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: the football field. Did the defensive staff at any have

439
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 2: any concept going in?

440
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: You know, you got to see it on the field

441
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 1: before it plays out. But there were tailed, There were

442
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: tails coming out of the summer workouts last year and

443
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that was happening in the preseason,

444
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: where you know, guy like Frank Wilson, who's the associate

445
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: head coach here, who recruited guys like Leonard Fournette and

446
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,879
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew and you know on down the line, Patrick

447
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: Peterson too this this program. I mean he was he

448
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 1: was saying some things about Harold Perkins very early on

449
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: that you were you were saying, like whoa, I mean

450
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty Hirich guard, you know what I mean,

451
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: like you don't just kind of kick that around. And

452
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: then you know, you go to week one and you're like, well,

453
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: where is he? You know, I mean, like we've heard

454
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: all of this stuff about him, but if you were

455
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: paying attention in that Florida State game, he's on the

456
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: kickoff team and he makes every play, every kick, every

457
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: every I mean every tackle on the kickoff team. He's

458
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: the he's the last one to get up off the pile.

459
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 1: And then he made a play against Auburn Fellows where

460
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: he you know, he reacted to this ball in the

461
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: air and he snagged it out of the air. And

462
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 1: from that point on, I think everybody looked around and said,

463
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,239
Speaker 1: who cares whether he's ready or not, right, you have

464
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 1: to have him out there. And it just turned into

465
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: kind of like Tyron Matthew type weeks where you're like,

466
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: what's he going to do next? How is he going

467
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: to you know, I mean, what's what's what's the crazy

468
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: thing he and and like the coaches and teammates and

469
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: stuff will tell you like he probably be the best

470
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: running back you know, I mean, if you've seen his

471
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: high school highlights. It's scary. I mean he did everything

472
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: at his high school. I mean he made the hamburgers

473
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: and hot dogs at halftime, he drove the bus. I mean,

474
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: he returned, punked, he returned kicks. He was the safety,

475
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: he was the linebacker, he was the quarterback, he was

476
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: the running back. It was and this is a big

477
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: time Texas high school. It wasn't like he was that

478
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: you know, talked away in some small town. It was

479
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, so you knew when when he got here.

480
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: How would this translate? I don't think anybody could anticipate. Look,

481
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: LSU's had a lot of dominant freshmen come through here,

482
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know. I mean Matthews one

483
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: of them. He's Harold Perkins is as good as I've

484
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Speaker 1: ever seen. You know, I can't say he's the best,

485
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: but I mean he's as good as we've ever seen

486
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 1: down here. I mean he's just he's so impactful. It's

487
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: not if it's when he affects the game.

488
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Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible. I want to go back to something you

489
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Speaker 3: said earlier, Jordy. You mentioned about Brian Kelly and stealing

490
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 3: a sense of accountability among the roster. What I like

491
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: from what we saw at LSU last season and there

492
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 3: were some words you and Dan discussed discussed them, right,

493
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: But it reminded me a little bit of when he

494
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: first took over Notre Dame, because that was not a

495
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 3: perfect roster by any stretch, but you could feel it

496
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: kind of building from week to week to week. You

497
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 3: could feel that there was a sense of buying among

498
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: the players on the roster. I don't know what that

499
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 3: exact moment was for LSU this season. It probably correlates

500
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: pretty well to when it really clicked with Jayden Daniels,

501
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 3: but there was this sense of it's getting better, They're

502
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: getting more organized, things are starting to stabilize. Beyond the

503
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 3: accountability piece that you mentioned earlier, if you had to

504
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: describe the culture of this team, what Kelly has now

505
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 3: put into place, and how you see that quote unquote

506
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: buy in taking place among the guys in the roster,

507
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 3: how would you describe that to people who aren't as familiar.

508
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: Look, I would give this stat and you know this

509
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: is a yo. Really in college football these days, when

510
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: you look up, there is people fleeing football programs. People

511
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: are leaving for no reasons, right, I mean the age

512
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: of the transfer portal has created the great excuse I

513
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: can do this right now. I mean I can you know,

514
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: I hate where I'm at at noon by twelve thirty,

515
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: I can be somewhere else. And after LSU, after Brian

516
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: Kelly had hired or excuse me, after LSU had hired

517
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly, and he had really kind of settled his

518
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: feet on the job and began to build the roster,

519
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,479
Speaker 1: had began to pay attention to building the roster at

520
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: that part of the process, nobody transferred out. Nobody left,

521
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that when you have a

522
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: first year head coach, you almost have to have a

523
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: almost a built in type of insurance that you're going

524
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: to lose guys, right, I mean, like there's going to

525
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: be some turnover. And once he really like introduced himself

526
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: to the team and created these boundaries and you know,

527
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: kind of accountability and leadership principles of what he was

528
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: building the team on, nobody left, and everybody that you

529
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: talked to had a different mental outlook on it. You know, LSU,

530
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: when you would talk to their players a couple of

531
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: years ago, it almost felt like a job before it

532
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: was a jilt, you know what I mean? Now they're

533
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: getting paid, But it felt like it was just slugging

534
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: through mud every day of showing up and wondering what

535
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: it was going to be and where people were going

536
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: to go, and you know who was going to be

537
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: leading you and what the message was going to be.

538
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Now when you show up and you know that, hey,

539
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: if if my teammate's not there, he's going to be

540
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: docked for that. It's going to hold him accountable. And

541
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: I got to show up to make sure that I'm

542
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: not the guy that costs my my SWAT team that

543
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity, and people are showing up to work with

544
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: a smile on their face. Well, you're building a whole

545
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: new community, You're building a whole new culture, You're building

546
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: a whole new vibe around the field, you know, around

547
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: the building. And you know, I think that caught on

548
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 1: pretty quick with Brian Kelly. I mean, it wasn't they

549
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: didn't need to get to the fall buy in. I

550
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: mean there was big, big buy in around March, April

551
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: and May of last year that by the time the

552
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: summer came around, you know, you LSU was you could

553
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: feel like they were kind of feeling themselves. You were

554
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: kind of like what is this about? You know, like

555
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: where is this coming from? Because they got so many

556
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: question marks. But you would talk to people kind of

557
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: internally and you're like, I'm telling you better watch out.

558
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: You know like that, you know, like you better heads up.

559
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: They're going to surprise some people. And it's you know,

560
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: to see the way that they played. By the time

561
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: they got rolling into November, it was like, damn, I

562
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: mean I guess this is who they are.

563
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember when we were doing season previews,

564
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: we looked at the roster and it was obvious this

565
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: is a very good roster. This is a good team.

566
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: But there were a lot of questions new coach quarterback, right,

567
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 3: I mean we transfer transfers, right, We didn't. There was

568
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: a lot that we didn't know. But there were plenty

569
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 3: of reasons to be optimistic. What are they selling when

570
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: they're out on the road now, when they're when they're

571
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: doing their recruiting pitches, What are they selling this new

572
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: version of LSU football? How does that differ, if at

573
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: all all, from the previous regime when they were out

574
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 3: on the road.

575
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: I think Scott Woodward what he sold to Brian Kelly,

576
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: more than anything was that it's a true brand name program.

577
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: I think LSU's always had a seat at the table,

578
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: or at least the last twenty years, has had a

579
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: seat at the table of the big boys and kind

580
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: of the blue bloods, but maybe a little bit of

581
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, sitting at the other side of the cool kids,

582
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, kind of wondering how do they fit in?

583
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: And I think what Woodward was really pushing towards Kelly

584
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: is that, Hey, we deserve to be here, and you're

585
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: the guy that's going to make us a consistent buy

586
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: in of this is who we are, this is LSU football,

587
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: this is what it comes with. And I think, you know,

588
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: they have taken that and really taken it to the road.

589
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing that through social media of the

590
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: way that they're recruiting these guys of you know, LSU

591
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: is is as resourceful, as funded, as healthy of a

592
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: recruiting ground. Has every resource that you need from a

593
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: coaching facility, training standpoint, academic support standpoint that you can

594
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: get anywhere. And you know, I think that they're starting

595
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: to shop that more nationally, but by obviously paying attention

596
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: to the end state talent that that that can you know,

597
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: win champion Nick Saban opened up and created the blueprint

598
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: down here. You know, when he got here, he looked

599
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: around and said, what the hell has everybody been doing?

600
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: This place is a monster. I mean if you just

601
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: build a wall around New Orleans alone. I mean at

602
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: that time, like Ed Reid was playing at Miami and

603
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne was he was like, how is this happening?

604
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys need to be playing at LSU.

605
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: And once he built that fence and showed like, hey, guys,

606
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: you don't you don't have to go you know, you

607
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: don't have to go shop the country. You know, just

608
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: just winning your backyard first, and that'll be the nucleus

609
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: of all the championship runs you go on. And that

610
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: has played out, you know, even twenty twenty three years later.

611
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Saban's model still exists up here, so I

612
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: mean down here. So you know, I think that there's

613
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: a much pointed effort on winning in the state with

614
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: a national brand and a big name behind you.

615
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: Can you speak at all to how Nick Saban has

616
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: driven folks in the SEC, especially folks in the SEC

617
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: West crazy, sure, over the time of his tenure at Alabama,

618
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: Because we've seen every coach in the SEC turnover at

619
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: least once in the span of time that he's been

620
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: on his historic run at Bama. What has it been

621
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: like from the LSE standpoint? Of course they got one

622
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, but yeah, I don't know, just broadly speaking,

623
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: what has that been like from your perspective.

624
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: Well, not only have they turned him over, they've tried

625
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: to replace him with his guys, right exactly, everybody's kinda

626
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: looked for him and see if you can't almost model it,

627
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: it's been more brutal for LSU and specifically you know,

628
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: later it's gotten a little bit better. And really, you know,

629
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: past the first couple of years of him being Bama's

630
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: head coach, you know, people got over the emotional part

631
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: of it. But early on for LSU fans, I mean

632
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: it was brutal. I mean they had a billboard leaving

633
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: Alabama's team hotel, you know, with like just some pretty

634
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: pretty bad stuff aimed at Saban in the first game,

635
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, back in two thousand and eight. I mean,

636
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: this thing was was it was hot, man, I mean

637
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: it was a you know, a boiling type temperature there

638
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: for a minute. But you know, I mean once he

639
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: was able to establish his program at Alabama. People at

640
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: LSU knew like everybody's in trouble. Everybody's in trouble, and

641
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: specifically LSU because he understood how healthy Louisiana talent was.

642
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: And he started to come in here and really cherry

643
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: pick who he wanted under less Miles, and it costs

644
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: less Miles's job, you know. I mean, Miles would he

645
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: would make the ls He would make the LSU Alabama

646
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: game the super Bowl every year where it had a

647
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: bye week before, so it had a two week build up,

648
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: and Miles would never run from it. I mean he

649
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: would say that this is the biggest game, and this

650
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: is the year, and LSU's prepared, and then they would

651
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: get into that game and ultimately they would lose it,

652
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: whether it would be in heartbreaking fashion at the end

653
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: or it would be in a blowout. You know, when

654
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: he showed up to Tuscaloosa in fifteen with Leonard Fournette

655
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: and just came running him into a brick wall, where

656
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: it just once you left that game, the season deflated.

657
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at LSU Arkansas's record in

658
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: the Less Miles era, Arkansas really started to command that

659
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: series late because Miles could never win the Bama game,

660
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: and it was always the week after Alabama, so LS

661
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: you would, you know, consistently lay an egg that week.

662
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean there was there was no real purpose. You know,

663
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: all the superstars were kind of sitting out of the game.

664
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: Nobody was dressed out, you know. I mean it was

665
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: because they had put all of this stock and trying

666
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: to beat Saban and beat Alabama and slay the Dragon

667
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: that it just ultimately it ended up costing, you know.

668
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean they put so much emotion into it. I

669
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: mean you saw Ojeron in nineteen when he won the game.

670
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: He's crying on midfield. He's crying, you know. I mean

671
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: that was a lot of what that was. Brian Kelly

672
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: the same way when he was asked about it. I

673
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: mean at his introductory press conference, why did you take

674
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: the LSU job? I came down here to play teams

675
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: like Alabama and play coaches like Nick Saban. I mean

676
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's that's what as soon as it

677
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: was over after he beat him, that's what I got here.

678
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: That's why I came here. That's why that's why I

679
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: took this job. So you know, his mark has been

680
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: left indelibly on on not only Alabama's program, but programs

681
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: all over the Southeastern Conference, all over college football.

682
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: Really, is it almost an advantage that Brian Kelly was

683
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: a pseudo outsider to the South, that he doesn't come

684
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: in with that baggage, right, that ed Orgeron knows the

685
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: weight of beating Alabama in the SEC. You know, obviously

686
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: over the years, less Miles understands the weight of the

687
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: pressure of Alabama and not just Alabama, but eventually A

688
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: and M and Ole Miss and all these other schools

689
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: where you know, you come in with so much scar

690
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: tissue on all of these matchups. Florida of course, So

691
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly comes in only coaching in the Midwest from

692
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 2: the Northeast. Do you think that that him coming in

693
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: with clear eyes was a certain advance?

694
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: I think very refreshing for Scott Woodward when he saw

695
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: that in the process of hey, Kelly's He's going to

696
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: embrace this stuff. I mean, Miles was more intimidated by

697
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: it as time grew on, and you know, Ojeron after

698
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: his you know, third season just became a train wreck. So,

699
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it just it never could really get a

700
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: run of consistency under it. But to see where Kelly

701
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: kind of embraces that. You know, look, it was the

702
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: same thing that happened with Nick Saban in nineteen ninety nine.

703
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: He was an outsider, you know. I Mean, that's one

704
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: thing that LSU is very guilty of, is that they've

705
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of people that have been collecting checks

706
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: doing the same thing at state jobs for you know,

707
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: X number of years, and when you ask them to

708
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: change the policy or change the procedure, the first excuse is, well,

709
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: that's not how we do it here. We've been doing

710
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: it for this long. And that really turned Saban off.

711
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, there was tales coming out of Sabin just

712
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: kind of walking around like Ari gold on Entourage with

713
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: like a water gun, just lightening people up, like you're done,

714
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you're to get out

715
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: of your pack your stuff, you know, like get out

716
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: of here. I mean, it's just not gonna work like

717
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: that anymore, you know, I Mean, it's just not it's

718
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: not going to be that way. And you know, Saban

719
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: left in O four and that that kind of found

720
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: its way back into the system. By the time that

721
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two had rolled around

722
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: and you go get somebody like Brian Kelly from you know,

723
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: totally outside, you know, I mean, I think he had

724
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: no idea what he was stepping into. And you know,

725
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys are based way outside of Louisiana,

726
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: but I'm sure you've heard some of the tales of

727
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: Louisiana politics. Of course, at the heart of Louisiana politics

728
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: is LSU football. I mean, like that is yeah, that

729
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: is that is the main recipe of Louisiana and politics.

730
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: So you know, I think Kelly stepped in here and

731
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: probably two months in was like, where the hell am

732
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean.

733
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: Like, sure, this is nuts.

734
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: But Kelly is a politician, right, He's been a politician

735
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: his entire career.

736
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: So I think once he realized that, hey, this is

737
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot more than the football, you know, the Notre Dame.

738
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: It's you know, I'm the football coach and there's a

739
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: lot that comes with that. At LSU, you could be

740
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: the football coach twelve saturdays in the fall, but outside

741
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: of that, you got to you got to kind of

742
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: play the role for three hundred and sixty five days

743
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: a year. Is kind of the politician where people are

744
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: going to come up to you and want favors and

745
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: shake hands and pictures and all this stuff. And I think,

746
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, Kelly has really embraced that at least early

747
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: on here.

748
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: How has that looked on the trail And you mentioned

749
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: the politics that goes along with high school coaches, that

750
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: goes along with boosters, and it's just every school is

751
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: its own different universe. But how deeply has he been

752
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: able to dive into Louisiana recruiting Louisiana High School, Louisiana

753
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: seven on East Texas seven on. I like, what has

754
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: he done every single thing necessary in his short time

755
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: there to to sort of lay that foundation absolutely?

756
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's put the right people around. He's gotten

757
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: some guys that are that are connected to the southeast,

758
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: specifically Louisiana. Frank Wilson was a huge hire for him.

759
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: You know, Wilson left a sitting coach head coach position

760
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: at Macnice to take the associate head coach at LSU

761
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: and come back and be the top assistant over here.

762
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: And you know, he's really kind of considered the godfather

763
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: of the state. I mean, everybody knows him. All the

764
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: high school coaches know him, all the players know him.

765
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: I mean, everything's going to really run through him. So

766
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: to get a guy like him early on sewn up,

767
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: I thought was a very big deal for Kelly, you know,

768
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: in the job and has really kind of filtered down.

769
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I thought really

770
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: said of how serious Kelly is about this job was

771
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: removing Brian Poullian as the recruiting coordinator this offseason. You

772
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: talk about politics, and there's been a lot of politics

773
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: around this move of make sure the language is correct

774
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: of how it's said. But at the end of the day,

775
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Pollion didn't have the option of coming back. I mean,

776
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 1: he was never going to come back as the recruiting

777
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: coordinator at LSU. It just was a bad fit. You

778
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: saw how bad of a fit the special teams coordinator

779
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: was once it played out on the field. And you know,

780
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: I think Kelly behind closed doors, whether he caught it

781
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: from somebody or whether he realized himself that hey, look,

782
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Nick Saban's not doing anybody any favors in Tuscaloosa, Kirby

783
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: Smart's not hiring any of his friends in Athens. I

784
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: can't put a coordinator role on a guy that may

785
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: not be this qualified for the job, and you got

786
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: to make sure that you're maximizing all of those ten positions.

787
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: So I think really that move, more than anything, told

788
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: me how serious he is on winning, because I know

789
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: that that had to be a difficult conversation for him.

790
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: That's a good friend of his, he respects, they respect

791
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: one another. You know, he's kept him on to make

792
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: sure that he's got you know, some sort of title

793
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: end role within the program. But you know, make no

794
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: mistake about it, that conversation initially was they're moving on.

795
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: LSU is moving on because they've got to find the

796
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: best role in best position, best guy that fits that position,

797
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: so LSU can maximize you know, their output in the fall.

798
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: How far away is LSU from Brian Kelly two point zero?

799
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 2: His vision for the roster, his vision for the you know,

800
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: the gears and pulleys that run a program. You know,

801
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: you talk about incremental growth and changing things the way

802
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: that they changing the way things were. The roster still

803
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: very much is relying on transfers. The roster still is

804
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: very much coached by that first wave of coaches and analysts.

805
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: What is how far off is LSU from his grand vision.

806
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: Nick saban At Ojeron and Less Miles won national championships

807
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: in year three at LSU. You know, I think that

808
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: there is a model in place that shows that you

809
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: can win here very early. I think winning the SEC

810
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: West for Brian Kelly in year one was a little advanced.

811
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about when you talk about

812
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: a timeline, So I would look right now, you know,

813
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: we talked about those policies and procedures in the organization

814
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: very evident when you step out onto a spring practice

815
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: field and see that after seeing them implement them last

816
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: year at this time, so you know, that part's really

817
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of taking care of itself. That's really the organization

818
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: already running. It's you know, its own. When it comes

819
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: to that that portion of the program, you know, you

820
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: starting to see the transfer numbers slim down and you're

821
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: starting to see more emphasis on high school recruiting, which

822
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: Kelly said is always going to be the lifeline of

823
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: adding new blood to the to the program. So I

824
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: would say that we're looking at it. You know, I

825
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: would say that you're probably staring at the mid season

826
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: point here of year two and going into year three

827
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: of you know, Kelly really having a full grasp and

828
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: ownership of the program being one hundred percent his you

829
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: know where I mean the they cleared a it probably

830
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: takes about two hundred people back office to run LSU football,

831
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: right all in all, everybody, they probably turned over ninety

832
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: percent of them, you know, I mean there was a

833
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: very small amount that made it through in that coaching

834
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: change of Ojeron to Kelly. And you know, so you're

835
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: starting to see all of those systems and all of

836
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: those you know, department heads that are now overseeing certain

837
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: areas like the weight program and nutrition and academic counseling

838
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: and you know, physical therapy and you know all that

839
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: goes into the re having in and training parts of

840
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: it that that are really you know, people are used

841
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: to it. Now it's a year in people understand where

842
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there.

843
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: Like I said, you know on the field that's kind

844
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: of playing out as well, you know on on the

845
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: practice field as well.

846
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: Who are the new names? Be it Spring, Summerfall? That

847
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 2: if you asked the uh, the deepest uh and most

848
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: passionate fan would make his or her ears tingle right now.

849
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, look that there is a defensive back in in

850
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: totally and I can't remember. I'm sorry I'm blaming his name,

851
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: but his first name that that has showed his versatility,

852
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: that Taviano. Taviano is is his last name. And he

853
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: came out of Texas a five star guy that really

854
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: from a defensive backstandpoint, kind of looks the part feels

855
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: like he's gonna play early. But you know, they they've

856
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: got a lot of guys coming in here that I

857
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: think are going to play that may not be name recognized,

858
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: know household names. They had a lot of turnover from

859
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: a lot of role players, so they were able to

860
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: go out and really kind of turn over this defensive

861
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: line and bring guys in like Jordan Jefferson out of

862
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: West Virginia.

863
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

864
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: They were able to bring a couple of guys home

865
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: from some other schools around the SEC that I think

866
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: are going to play. Uh. And then obviously when you

867
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: when when you talk about this freshman class, they've got

868
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: a couple of tight ends that I think, you know,

869
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: we saw Mason Taylor, the son of Jason Taylor last

870
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: year really kind of step one of the scene at

871
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: l s U and and you know, become one of

872
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: their primary threats down the stretch. You know, he had

873
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: to play out of necessity. He was good enough by

874
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: no means am I saying, but he had to play early.

875
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: If you remember Lsu gave up the the block field

876
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: goal against Florida State to tie the game at the end,

877
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: he was the true freshman playing the end spot. He

878
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: was out a position he shouldn't have been there, right,

879
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean that that that was just kind of a

880
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, that was a bad piece of planning. You know,

881
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: special teams coach, right, like we just talked about, and

882
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, they've really built some depth at the tight

883
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: end spot. They went out and got some guys. They

884
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: made a flip one signing day for a big time

885
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: player that's going to come in and play. So I

886
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: mean they signed four tight ends in this class. I mean,

887
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: if you go back and watch Brian Kelly, you guys

888
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: know the history of Kelly and the tight end position.

889
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: Like the tight end he does once a year. Once

890
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: a year, there's there's somebody coming out of his program

891
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: that's going to play on Sunday. So I think they'll

892
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: be getting back to that pretty quickly.

893
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 3: Let's get you out of here on this, JORDI, LSU's

894
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: gotta play the SEC the SEC West schedule, so that

895
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: is never easy. However, I looked over it before we

896
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 3: hit record. I think there's a very realistic possibility that

897
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 3: LSU starts this campaign eight to oh they go into

898
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 3: that road tilt against Alabama undefeated, because other than Alabama,

899
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: other than maybe Florida State, most of the teams in

900
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: this slate are in flux. I mean, they missed Georgia,

901
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: they missed Tennessee at least in the regular season. What

902
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: are your expectations, what are realistic expectations for year two?

903
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: And if we're not talking purely in terms of how

904
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: many games they won, what represents progress?

905
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: Well, look, I think that the pivotal the most pivotal

906
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: part of the season, and the most pivotal game of

907
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: the season is Florida State and Week one. Yeah, of course,

908
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: I mean, really and truly I think that when you

909
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: look at this game and the opportunity that LSU has there,

910
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: I really think that whoever wins that game could wake

911
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: up Monday morning number one in the country. Now, I

912
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: think that you look at that weekend, they'll both be

913
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 1: preseason top six or seven, you know, maybe even top five.

914
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: They both have returning quarterbacks.

915
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: They've both got returning quarterbacks they go you know, they

916
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: both have coaches that are now secure, they both have

917
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: brands that feel like they're about to bust out. They're

918
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: both on similar tracks last season. I mean, not only

919
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: did they play in Week one and the game came

920
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: down to the last play of the game when a

921
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: field goal was blocked to force overtime, there were a

922
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: lot of Bowl projections that had them possibly meeting up

923
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: in the postseason because they were, you know, they were

924
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: really kind of an identical track. So I think when

925
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: you look at this opening weekend game, there's none more attractive,

926
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: but there's none with more that you'll be able to

927
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: take away from it. And you know, at that point

928
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: of the year, how many times do we see teams

929
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: that are within the top five have the biggest win

930
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: and wake up and be number one in the country.

931
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 1: I really think that this is the type of game

932
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: that could really, you know, kind of catapult whoever comes

933
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: out of there with a winner into that record. Like

934
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: you said of you know, a fast start where you

935
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: pull into Tuscaloosa undefeated and you're looking at a at

936
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: a big time matchup because of what that can do

937
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: from you for a confidence standpoint. I know a lot

938
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: of people are you know, very disappointed and looking for

939
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: another shot of the way that that game ended last

940
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: season and really felt like they had a you know,

941
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: a really a good team to go play with. They

942
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: lost one of their best defenders early in that game

943
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: in Mason Smith, and you know, you could see when

944
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: you go back to it, and especially watching Brian Kelly

945
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: now coach, you know, twelve thirteen games as LSU's coach,

946
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: you go back and watch that one, he was a

947
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: little he was trying to find his footing, you know

948
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like if you go back to that

949
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: halftime interview, they're like, you know what, like I don't

950
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: know they're going on. He's like, I don't know. I mean,

951
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was just kind of like he was

952
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: kind of looking around, thinking, man, this isn't Notre Dame anymore.

953
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: He just, you know, whatever it was, it was, it

954
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: kind of took him a little bit to catch his footing. So,

955
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: you know, I think that LSU is very much looking

956
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: forward to that rematch, and like I said, I think

957
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: that it could be the swing game of the year.

958
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: I really do when you go back and kind of

959
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: judge that schedule after it's done. You know, you look

960
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: at that Florida State Week one game, I mean, think

961
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: about what it would have done for LSU season last year.

962
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 3: They would have won it absolutely, you know, I mean,

963
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: and they could have won that game.

964
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: They perhaps should have won that game, absolutely absolutely.

965
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 3: Jordi Klota from the Jordi Klatta Show tell folks where

966
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: they can find you and all your good work.

967
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate it, fellas. Easiest way to do it

968
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: is at Kalada Show on social media, so whether that

969
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: is Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, any platform that you were on,

970
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: you can find us there and obviously on YouTube. Right

971
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: every morning, we're there from seven to nine am, and

972
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: we've got programming coming out Monday through Friday. A lot

973
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: of it centered around South Louisiana sports like the Pelicans

974
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: and the Saints, but really more LSU. So if you're

975
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: interested in LSU and you may be living outside of

976
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: Louisiana or outside of our LSU listening base, give us

977
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: a try. You can find us on YouTube. The easiest

978
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: way to do it is just search at Colada Show.

979
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: To keep up with what we got going on very good.

980
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: Well, look, we appreciate your insight, your wisdom, and of

981
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: course all your time. Will have to do it again

982
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 3: soon as we as we hopefully get a little bit

983
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: closer to college football season. We're like inside one hundred

984
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: and fifty days now to week one, so it'll be

985
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: here before you know it.

986
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: Hey, LSU's got a good baseball team. So the spring

987
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: and summer kind of cruises by right where baseball season

988
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: is done. You can look up, it's midsummer and you're

989
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: about just about five weeks away. It's good to be busy, right,

990
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: That's right, you guys have a great thanks thanks for

991
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: having me man. I really appreciate this platform and do

992
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: a great job, and it was cool being here. Thank

993
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: you all very much.

994
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: Thanks Jordy, our pleasure.

995
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: Okaydn, there you go.

996
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: That is Jordi Kallatta. We very much appreciate his time.

997
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 3: I feel like after each of these interviews I learned something.

998
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 3: I learned many some things, and the something that I

999
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 3: learned the most was about the accent. And I hate

1000
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: to make it all about the accent, you know it

1001
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: is with me, it's it's like two dimensional with respect

1002
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 3: to Brian Kelly. It's either the accent or the quarterback thing.

1003
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: The accent or the quarterback thing. I've been telling the

1004
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: same jokes now since he accepted that job, and it's

1005
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: been a while, it's been like eighteen months. But the

1006
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: fact that the LSU base rallied around Kelly while the

1007
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: Internet was teaming up on him after the stupid accent

1008
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 3: on the basketball court was really revealing. And it speaks

1009
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 3: to my deep seated inner belief that he is a

1010
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: calculated politician at heart and he knew exactly what he

1011
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: was doing. It's a great fit then, for as dumb

1012
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: as it might have looked to the outside world, maybe

1013
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 3: the guy knew exactly what he was doing well in

1014
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: the hearts and minds right out of the shoot. Well,

1015
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 3: it's sort of the like the Barry Bonds thing, where

1016
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: I was like, well, he might be weird, but he's

1017
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: our weird.

1018
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah weird. Oh yeah, he might be hateable and looks

1019
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: twice as big as he did four years ago, but

1020
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: he's our mysterious growth right fielder, center field or left

1021
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: field or whatever. And so I understand that whereas like

1022
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: you feel that sense of ownership and you know closing,

1023
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 2: you know, putting a fence around your school and saying, oh,

1024
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: he's our guy. So I get that, and I understand that.

1025
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 2: And if you're beating Alabama year one, all the better,

1026
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: If you're winning the West and year one, all the better,

1027
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: he's your guy. And I think what the important something

1028
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: that I learned Ty, and you can respond to this

1029
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: is that Scott Woodward was looking for consistency because there

1030
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: has never been a better LSU team than the one

1031
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: that won the national championship in twenty nineteen. The problem

1032
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: is the higher the high, the lower the lows. And

1033
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 2: so I think with Brian Kelly, the idea is we

1034
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 2: want to build to that point again, but we want

1035
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: to build to that point and plateau or be right

1036
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: around the top of that range, whereas we can't deal

1037
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 2: with the ups and downs that come with a more

1038
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: volatile program. Yeah, so that makes sense. Of Brian Kelly.

1039
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 2: All he did was win ten eleven games every year

1040
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 2: at Notre Dame.

1041
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: He's been very consistently, been mister consistent right, and to

1042
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 3: an extent that drove people at Notre Dame nuts. They

1043
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: wanted him to do more. They wanted him to win

1044
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: national championship in playoff games. It's hard to do that, obviously,

1045
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: very harder to do that now than ever before. But

1046
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 3: he was consistent pumping out double digit win seasons, consistent

1047
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: in building the roster from the inside out, consistent in

1048
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 3: putting NFL tight ends out there every Saturday they get

1049
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: drafted into the league, building a good defense. He did

1050
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: all of those things correctly, and so I understand why

1051
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: he's making money. He's one of the top five highest

1052
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: paid coaches per recent report from I don't know USA

1053
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 3: today whoever compiled it, and I think for good reason.

1054
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: They now have that stability. You can talk in whatever

1055
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: accent you want. If you beat if you beat Nick

1056
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: Saban year one, if you win the SEC West, there's

1057
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 3: a lot to build on now moving forward. I am curious, though,

1058
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: to hear about this quarterback thing. And this is not

1059
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 3: me beating the dead horse. It is not me beating

1060
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: the dead heart. It's not intended, is that way? It

1061
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: is not. I am not rooting against Brian Kelly. I

1062
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: think I'm over it, but you think you are. Yeah,

1063
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 3: I think until I'm not. But at time of recording,

1064
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 3: I feel over it. How he handles Jane Daniels, who,

1065
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: as Jordie said, very responsible with the football, clearly was

1066
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: the catalyst for the offense last season, came into his

1067
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 3: own the fact that they might bench him in favor

1068
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: of Garrett Nusmeyer, who clearly provides upside maybe in a

1069
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: different way. That's a very interesting story to follow, and

1070
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: until Brian Kelly proves maybe again I guess he proved

1071
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: it last year, Until he proves again that he can

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Speaker 3: handle a quarterback controversy, which is something he never did

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Speaker 3: all that well with at Notre Dame, I will remain skeptical. However,

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Speaker 3: what we saw last season obviously gives me give me

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Speaker 2: I from an LSU fan, So LSU is great to

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Speaker 2: me because there's something so knowable about LSU, because of

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Speaker 2: the local talent, because of the recent history of winning

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Speaker 2: championships and competing with the best in the country. That now,

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Speaker 2: as we head into the twelve team playoff era, I

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Speaker 2: think it's again a frozen take to say, if Brian

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Speaker 2: Kelly consistently figures out quarterback right, which is I guess

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Speaker 2: your perennial asterisk with him at this moment. Anyway, we

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Speaker 2: know he's a great coach. We know LS who spends

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Speaker 2: know LSU is going to with Brian Kelly or with

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Speaker 2: the right guy, consistently put together top five national recruiting classes.

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Speaker 2: Ish any year in which they have figured out quarterback

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Speaker 2: and don't make a twelve team playoff as an abject failure.

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Speaker 2: And I say the same thing for George and Alabama exclusively.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's another team in the SEC, just

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Speaker 2: because you know, we've seen the best of Florida as

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Speaker 2: a national championship program, but we don't know that with

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Speaker 2: We know that they can figure out quarterback and find

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Speaker 2: great quarterbacks. LSU rarely finds that really good quarterback, but

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Speaker 2: when they do, they exclusively win big two, very big,

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Speaker 2: and so right now, it's all in place for LSU

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Speaker 2: If they figure out quarterback, they should be playing in

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Speaker 2: January every year now, right, Yeah, absolutely, I just there's

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Speaker 2: no reason with especially with Brian Kelly and he talked

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Speaker 2: so if Elis was able to continue to successfully do that, No,

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Speaker 2: they're always going to be in the playoff. In my eyes,

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Speaker 3: So we are going to continue with the year one. Debries,

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Speaker 3: I believe we're doing Oklahoma next. Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: That is correct? Yes.

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