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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lollie. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and it is a Friday, a week from today, Matt,

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Speaker 1: we will know who. Yeah, but the Ash Steelers first

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Speaker 3: Assume they had one. First round will be in the

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Speaker 3: books at least. Yeah, this time, first round. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: will know. And I couldn't be more excited, to be

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Speaker 3: honest with you. A little bit of the calm before

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Speaker 3: the storm. Here teams getting all their ducks in a row,

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Speaker 3: all the visits are done, hunkered down, working on their

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Speaker 3: vertical boards and fighting some things out, I'm sure, and

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Speaker 3: probably looking at some contractual stuff on guys they have

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Speaker 3: and who are available free agents if we don't get

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Speaker 3: our favorite draftee and all that good stuff. But for us,

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Speaker 3: not a lot happening, you know, I mean, it's a

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Speaker 3: little bit quiet.

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Speaker 1: Quiet, but not completely quiet. There's as Steelers finished up

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Speaker 1: their their visits and the grand total on that ended

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Speaker 1: up being this should give you a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a hint here of what what you know, where they're

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Speaker 1: looking here? Fourteen offensive linemen they brought in.

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Speaker 3: Did they use all thirty visits? Well, because the local

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Speaker 3: in that neighborhood, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: They had thirty four players in.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let's say close to half of lineman offensive.

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Speaker 1: Uh fourteen offensive lineman, seven defensive backs, six wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: six defensive line linemen, and two linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, Yeah, I some don't quite understand the linebacker situation.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where Okay, if

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Speaker 1: this guy is still there in their second we feel

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Speaker 1: like their second round guys, if they're still there in

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Speaker 1: the third round, okay, they'd be best available to take them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And who were the it was Colson?

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Speaker 1: And who it was Colson? And uh Peyton?

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Speaker 3: medical grade on him. That would add up. Maybe it's

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Speaker 3: tell you that I don't think much of these visits

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Speaker 3: or smoke screens, to be very honest, they're pretty much

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Speaker 3: me just didn't quite add up. But they're probably their

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to bring them in. Hey, look, we're not

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Speaker 1: going to bring Cooper in because there's no way he's

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Speaker 3: In round three.

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Speaker 1: But if one of these two guys was there in

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Speaker 1: round three and there was nobody you know that we

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Speaker 3: Them, or somehow you're trading down and you have extra

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Speaker 3: picks that you didn't expect and that type of thing, like,

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Speaker 3: I bet they have really good grades on those two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, I think you can also expect

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Speaker 1: Been their their norm, with the exception of the twenty

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Speaker 1: Oh that kind of screwed it because that made it

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Speaker 1: five to two instead of four to three, which is

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Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, I hadn't thought of that, But no, I

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Speaker 3: think you're right. I mean, I think that maybe there's

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Speaker 3: But I definitely think a corner is going to go.

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Speaker 3: One, you know, right right, but there's enough spots there

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, So you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: like the stuff we used to do in the scouting

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I also wonder the style of kickoffs are going

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Speaker 3: I went a little bit more punt returner skills where

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Speaker 3: So it might a smaller punt returner type be even

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Speaker 1: Well here's what Bill Belichick ye say.

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Speaker 3: He did something I had to say.

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Speaker 1: He was on the Pat McAfee show, and he agreed

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Speaker 1: with me on this because immediately when that rule was passed,

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Speaker 1: I said, you're gonna see bigger bodies.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I member talking about own Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, Belichick, this is Belichick, there will be

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Speaker 1: think it will increase the size of players that are

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Speaker 3: Okay, So they're'd be slower too, you know what he's saying,

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Speaker 1: Of those guys. You look at it and go, why

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Speaker 3: Teams, yeah, or he's you know, yeah, has changed for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you want to get too heavy, as

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Speaker 3: Belichick mentioned, because that guy gets very athletes forget about it. Yeah. Interesting, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I wonder all of a sudden, Danny Smith and every

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, I would like to practice it

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Speaker 1: Give me a tight end that's he's he's raw, but

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Speaker 3: Know, as a wedge buster or being the wedge.

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Speaker 1: Because this is what it's going to be like, because

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Speaker 1: If you remember, I mean the Steelers used Orpheus roy

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Speaker 3: You think, like Lee Aol might be out there trying

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Speaker 3: to think some of their faster younger.

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Speaker 1: I think you know, anybody that you that you draft

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, certainly. If I'm a returner, I'm thrilled about

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Speaker 1: And depending on who the return guy is for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe, but they're going to have a like Garrett

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Speaker 3: Blunt return kicks. Dudes, He's gonna be a lot different

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Speaker 3: and it hasn't been long and I don't give it

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Speaker 3: more strategy I think is great. You know, just blasted

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Speaker 1: Especially. I never I never understood why teams would do

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Speaker 3: Maybe insane, Like when you're kicking out of the end

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Speaker 3: do it, right, I want to see what your return

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Speaker 3: please give me as many reps I can. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to tackle my own guys in Latrobe. I want

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Speaker 1: Right, that never made many sense to me.

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Speaker 3: Boggled my mind. Yeah, and I wouldn't want my returners

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Speaker 1: But right, well, and in that case, you know, if

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Speaker 1: You're only going to get like two or three chances.

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Speaker 1: I'm not fair catching. I'm bringing it out.

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Speaker 3: If I get my head knocked off I'm still this

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Speaker 3: is my only chance. Yeah, I gotta do something to

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Speaker 3: make the roster, and that same as the gunners and

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Speaker 3: all those guys only get so many reps. And you

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Speaker 3: kicked it out of the end zone. Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I was first guy down. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: so it will change things a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're we're pretty locked in and everybody

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Speaker 3: He's gonna do it. He's not gonna do anything.

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Speaker 3: But we've talked about this a lot. Six and seventh

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Speaker 3: Every year, Baltimore will Yeah, I mean Pittsburgh's pretty much

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Speaker 3: Like a guy like James Pierre might not have thought

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is d Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: a week out or less than a week out from

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Speaker 1: the start of the draft and Matt det Chad Reuter

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com has updated his seven round block draft. Okay,

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Speaker 1: uh so I wanted to take a look at that here,

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Speaker 3: Does you really be fun something that should look at

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Speaker 1: So Caleb Williams at one, Surpriser, jayde and Daniels at two.

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Speaker 1: Although there's starting to be some smoke screens, I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasna saying I thought it was getting pretty

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Speaker 1: Actually, no, they've reopened, changed and now he's May is

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Speaker 1: Uh Now Drake may Is three to the Patriots, then

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Speaker 3: A lot of sense to me. Like if I if

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Speaker 1: At five, the Chargers go Marvin Harrison. The Cardinals at six,

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Speaker 1: At nine, we have another trade.

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Speaker 3: The Colts come up to take brock Bauers, so Neighbors

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Speaker 1: At ten, the Jets take jac Latham.

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Speaker 1: At twelve, the Broncos take Dallas Turner Milik. Neighbors has

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Speaker 1: At thirteen, the Raiders take Malak Neighbors.

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Speaker 3: I think they would, yes, I believe, I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: At fourteen, the Saints take to Lucy Fluaga.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's their type, to be very honest

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Speaker 1: At seventeen, did Jaguars take Terry and Arnold?

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Speaker 1: Ummm, no, you think they? I don't think they would.

437
00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 3: The style of they're organization, they're not real, They're that's

438
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 3: just not what they did do right right, They're not

439
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 3: going to trade up either, you know.

440
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 1: At nineteen the Chiefs trade up with the Rams o

441
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 1: come get Xavier Worthy.

442
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,679
Speaker 3: I don't think you'd have to trade up that far.

443
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,719
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy.

444
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's crazy. We never talk about him.

445
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,800
Speaker 3: I think he's a much better player than these speed

446
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 3: only guys, you know, like the list of all the

447
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,840
Speaker 3: guys at the Combine that ran super fast.

448
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 1: That's all fine, but he's still one hundred and sixty five.

449
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 3: I would never trade up for this, don't get me wrong. Like,

450
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 3: but he'd be like my receiver seven something like that. Like,

451
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a speed guy only. I think

452
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 3: he's going to go in the first round, and I

453
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 3: think he's gonna get overdrafted. But I do think he's

454
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: a better football player than everybody that ran fast with

455
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: the Combine. That stinks, you know, Like I would.

456
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 1: Feel a lot better about him if you weigh one

457
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five and eighty pounds.

458
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 3: Me too, But I do think that that was my

459
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 3: I killed DeVante Smith for that, I killed Jordan Addison

460
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 3: for that. The league's a little kinder to those guys

461
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 3: than it used to be, and he'd be a great

462
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 3: fit for them. But No way, am I giving up

463
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: what it would take to go from thirty two to eighteen? No?

464
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: No, that means at twenty the Steelers take Troy Fatanu.

465
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 3: Sign me up. Yep, yeap, sign me up? Passing on fashion,

466
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 3: I get it, which I would? I mean both of

467
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: them are left tackles. I mean we all assume font

468
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 3: and who can easily switch over to the right. I

469
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 3: mean I think we take a lot of that stuff

470
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 3: in the O line world. For granted, you know, I

471
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 3: just like father knew better than me to Sean, me

472
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 3: too too.

473
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: I think he's a better player.

474
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 3: He would be my pick between the two. But I

475
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 3: would ask him to play right. Yeah, what she took

476
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 3: for Sean? Would you ask him to play right? I

477
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 3: don't think you.

478
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: Would talk about baby hands. His hands are smaller than

479
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett's, right, Yeah, he has to look like Deadpool

480
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,640
Speaker 1: after he gets after he gets like in the scene

481
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: where his hands growing back, like that's what he has

482
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: to like. It's it's odd he's like six eight with

483
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: eight and a half inch hands and his good.

484
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: Arm length and all that stuff. We're actually talking about

485
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 3: that on today's podcast, and it's like, well, how much

486
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 3: does that matter. I'm like, well, to me, that's.

487
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: All most hand usage with the offensive lineman.

488
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 3: Is like I equate it to like a racer. How

489
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: much tire can I have on the on the surface,

490
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: you know, like, who am I really get your base?

491
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: And everyone's read the scouting reports of when Jacy Latham

492
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 3: gets his hands on you, it's over. But when he

493
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: gets his hands on you, it's not over. Yeah, I

494
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 3: mean he doesn't have the grip, strength, the power, you know,

495
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: at the point where you're making contact with your I

496
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 3: jo with the kung fu grit, but I like just

497
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: about everything else about Oh yeah, I mean like I

498
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: would take him at twenty but yeah, not over fushing. No.

499
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 1: At twenty two, the Seahawks, after trading down, take Graham Barton.

500
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 3: They're probably pretty happy about that.

501
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: Then twenty three the Vikings take Lay two. At twenty four,

502
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 1: this is a shocker, the Cowboys take Junior Coulson.

503
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: Wow, I forget who was I was listening to the things.

504
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 3: Coulson has a really good chance to be the first

505
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 3: linebacker now because I guess his interviews have gone tremendous.

506
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: Super smart leader of a complex NFL style defense. The

507
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: other thing I've heard about the Cowboys a lot too.

508
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: Is worthy. He might not get past them, that's true.

509
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: I could see that. I mean, Texas guy, you know.

510
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: Yeah A twenty five to forty nine Ers trade up

511
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: and take Kooley McKinstry.

512
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: Fits. I mean, they're more of a man team.

513
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: Twenty six to Bucks when he takes over dejen Chop Robinson.

514
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: Twenty seven, the Cardinals take Cooper Dejean. Twenty eight, the

515
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: Bills take Marshawn neland he's getting.

516
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 3: So much first round buzz just looking at him, and

517
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 3: I know he's not gonna be a Steeler, but he's

518
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: kind of like a Bud Dupree that's not quite as explosive.

519
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 3: I mean he runs past the quarterback. He's got mostly

520
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 3: just a bull rush against mac guys. I don't understand

521
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: the first round buzz for him. I see some stiffness.

522
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: The most sacks he's ever had in the year is

523
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: four and a half. Yeah, I mean, I know he's

524
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 3: tough and physical and looks apart, but that's not a

525
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 3: first round player to me.

526
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: At twenty nine, the Lions take Darius Robinson.

527
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: That's a first roe.

528
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: That's first roue.

529
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would take him way ahead of

530
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 3: the Eland.

531
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: Thirty the Ravens take Tyler Geiton.

532
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 3: I could see that they could use the project tackle

533
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 3: play McCary there for a year or whatever.

534
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: Thirty one, the Packers, after trading down, take Roger Rosengarten.

535
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: Thin, I'm not taking him out of Mems.

536
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: No, I mean Mems are still there.

537
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

538
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: Right at thirty two, the Rams take Nate Wiggins. That's

539
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: what they're true.

540
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: That works, I really want for moving on to round

541
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: number two, we'll just go through some of the Yeah,

542
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: the high Mims Dealers, Jeez, Michael Pennies goes to Mims, goes.

543
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: At thirty four to the Patriots.

544
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: I could believe it, but that's pretty far fetched to me.

545
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: Jers On Newton at thirty five to the Cardinals. The

546
00:24:52,960 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: Steelers wind up with Jackson powers Johnson. I don't think

547
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: that's insane to think of a lot of people right

548
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: now are screaming at their radio. He's not going to

549
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: be there in the second round.

550
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's I mean, I wouldn't bet

551
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 3: that he makes it, Don't get me wrong.

552
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: No, I think it's like a twenty chance.

553
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you read a lot of stuff that you know,

554
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: there could be some injury stuff. He's a big personality,

555
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: I guess is one way people put it that he's

556
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 3: you know, and he's not a perfect center prospect.

557
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. Fraser still hadn't gone yet.

558
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: Really, So, I mean, if this is as deep as

559
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: center draft as most people think it is, and there's

560
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 3: only three or four teams that need centers and one

561
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: of them is a team like Carolina that needs everything else.

562
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: Fraser goes at sixty nine to the Chargers.

563
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I think he'll go well before that, though, I mean,

564
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 3: but center only, center only, that's a problem for him.

565
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the in that round here, in this round,

566
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: in the third round, the Steelers get at eighty four

567
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: Kean Coleman.

568
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: I take that for sure, right, absolutely absolutely, like his

569
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: first three picks, i'd sign me up. You get the

570
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 3: two linemen and Coleman. Yeah, oh yeah, I do that.

571
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: They're all home runs. Yeah, Like, I'm not sure any

572
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 3: of the three will be there. I don't know if

573
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: that'll be the case. Right, Yeah, Okay, he lost.

574
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: Me here, he goes it ninety eighty as I'm taking

575
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Trotter.

576
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: I think you'd be a plug and play starter with Queen,

577
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: but I need that. Yeah, I'm not big on that move.

578
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 3: In the fourth round, the Steelers Devandre Sweat, the first

579
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: pick of the fourth round, by the way, m.

580
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: Let's see here. At one nineteen, the Steelers take Rinaldo Green.

581
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 3: Okay, did a little homework on him, too, done him.

582
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 3: Jones is their slot. Green has not done much slot,

583
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 3: even though he's kind of built like it, so it's

584
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 3: a bit of a projection. But they had a really

585
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 3: good slot corner so he didn't have to. But they

586
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 3: play a lot of man, which is rare, which is

587
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: what you want. Those Florida State guys are intriguing to me.

588
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: Seventy eight the Steelers get Jalen Simpson from Auburn.

589
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 3: Okay, throw two guys at the problem and the mid rounds.

590
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 3: I don't dislike that, especially going as heavy offensively as

591
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 3: they did.

592
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: And then at one ninety five, the Steelers take Marcus Harris,

593
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,479
Speaker 1: defensive attacker from Auburn. I don't know a ton about him,

594
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: but uh, big high energy guy.

595
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: He'd be in the mix like six five. Okay, I'd

596
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: take that draft. I don't love the Trotter pick, but

597
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: I'd take that draft. Yeah, Trotter would play. Yeah, I

598
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: mean Trotter woud probably be a starter unless depending on

599
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 3: some interes.

600
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: Stuff, and also play a lot of special teams for which.

601
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: We just talked about the previous Yeah, heavy perfect for that,

602
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: even if he's not a speed demon. But I think

603
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: he'll last in this league. But those top three picks

604
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 3: are home runs.

605
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, Steeler fans would.

606
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd work well, Key Coleman fitting well, power Johnson.

607
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: The second rounds phenomenal, and I like the two DB's.

608
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 3: They're fine for what you paid for.

609
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: Him, absolutely, and you know getting for Shano in the

610
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: first round. M yes, again, sign me up for that

611
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: right now.

612
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Then all these guys have some projection to them.

613
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: I think could be fine at right tackle. He might

614
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: be like I hate right tackle. I don't know, you

615
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 3: know what I mean, We don't know.

616
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: But maybe for a visit and they comes in, they say,

617
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: he says, you know, I'm I am just so much

618
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: more comfortable at left tackle.

619
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah I am right.

620
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Well we know Broaderick can play right tackle.

621
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, it's like okay, good to know. Right doesn't

622
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 3: mean he won't take your or.

623
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: Maybe and maybe you try them both that spots you say, Okay,

624
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: which one looks better?

625
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: Get your best five out there. That the ros and

626
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: Garden font New thing, to me is kind of odd

627
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: because a lot of people are even saying Roseen Garden

628
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: should play left and the font should play right. And

629
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, just because their quarterback was lefty, it's not

630
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: a blind side, you know, font New and rose Guard

631
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: wouldn't play any different, right, keep them where they're at,

632
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: the best case scenario. It doesn't mean you can't switch them.

633
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: But just because he was Panic's blindside protector doesn't mean

634
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: he should be my homes' blind side protector, you know,

635
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: right right right? You know, why move him if you

636
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: don't have to. Yeah, he's used to coming out of

637
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: that stand, He's done the same, right, He'll make him

638
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: wipe his butt backwards exactly. It makes no sense to me.

639
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 3: Font News a little different because the tackles are harder

640
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 3: to fine, you know, I mean, I don't know, keep

641
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: him where they're at if you can, but a lot

642
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: of times you can't. No, absolutely not. But that was

643
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: that was Chad Reuter's seven around mock drafting. I take

644
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: it there was some strange stuff there, and there was

645
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: some strange stuff.

646
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: Last to I keep getting asked about Memes. Steel's gonna

647
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: take Mems. They really seem to like Mems, Like they

648
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: really seemed to like a lot of these guys.

649
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, soundly that they like him more than the others. Yeah, yeah,

650
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: I could see them. I could see him being a Steeler.

651
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: It wouldn't blow me away at all, wouldn't shock me.

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Speaker 1: But you know, he had the tight rope. Yeah, last

653
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: year after what seven games or six games, I don't know.

654
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: I don't know Matt's he scares me with the injury stuff.

655
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Speaker 3: I think he's the highest variance player in the whole draft.

656
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: I mean, he could be the best right tackle in

657
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: the league or he could be out of league in

658
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: three years. Yeah, I mean, I really believe it's that big.

659
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: And we've seen some of that with I mean some

660
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Speaker 1: of these Georgia and Alabama offensive linemen.

661
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Speaker 3: The Bama lineman Afel and I mean.

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Speaker 1: Georgia had Isaiah Wilson will It might be the biggest

663
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: draft bust ever in the last ten years.

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Speaker 3: His was all off the field though, like I think

665
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: he got in trouble, didn't like the game, like he

666
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: had all kinds of stuff, but doesn't mean you can't

667
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: love them all together. I mean, Broaderick looks fine, but no,

668
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 3: I mean those guys get beat up too. Yeah, some

669
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: of those linemen, especially for Bama. But Georgia has the

670
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: same program. It's hard to get on the field and

671
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: you get beat up, and sometimes you don't last as.

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Speaker 1: Long and they max you out.

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Speaker 3: They max you out there and you win national titles

674
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: and you play a lot of college games, but you

675
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: get beat up. Yeah. So I don't know.

676
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Speaker 1: He just I get it. I see, I see the

677
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: upside potential and everything with him. I just don't know

678
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: that that injury stuff bothers me. It bothers me.

679
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, playing time, They lack of tape to evaluate.

680
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: One thing I will say about him that I think

681
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: Broderick Jones did a fair amount last year too, is

682
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: they're so talented that even in the NFL, their technique

683
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: could be a work in progress and they'll still get

684
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 3: their guy blocked. You know. I mean some of these

685
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: like third round guys. I mean, Mems looks like nobody

686
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: else in the draft, like he could be sort of

687
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: right and get keep the produming and still be able

688
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: to be out there. Yeah, if you can stay.

689
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Speaker 1: Out there, I think his interviews had to be huge

690
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: as well, be huge, huge.

691
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Speaker 3: Because you wonder, I mean, I don't know that you

692
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: love the game.

693
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: When you miss out many games like that. Do you

694
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: love the game?

695
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: Do you love the game? Is it's super important? Are

696
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: you just playing because you're big, because it's easier for

697
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: you than most people and you can make a lot

698
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: of money. You need to find that out. You need

699
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: to find that out. And if I knew that answer,

700
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: it would be much easier for me to say, oh,

701
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Speaker 3: I'll take him in twenty Yeah. Absolutely, If I had

702
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: a better handle on that, yeah, I would feel a

703
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: lot more comfortable with him, and maybe not so much.

704
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: And if they do take him at twenty, I bet

705
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: they have already catched that box, right, right, right, of course. Yeah,

706
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: one of the tough things, right.

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Speaker 1: I do think the Steelers have gotten burned by that

708
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: in the past.

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00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, every team does.

710
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, I mean it happens. You can't judge

711
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: what's in somebody's heart.

712
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: And George is tough. I mean, it's such a good school.

713
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: Jones didn't have a lot of playing time either. I mean, like,

714
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: there's always an NFL guy ahead. He's like you in

715
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: a full season, way more. Yeah, of course, but right, he's.

716
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: Like twice as many games.

717
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but still he was considered raw.

718
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah he had fifteen. Well he did that to one.

719
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: He had fifteen career starts fifteen, Yeah, and mem says eight.

720
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: I didn't think it was happening.

721
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: And he didn't even finish. He didn't finish.

722
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and then they.

723
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Get it starts, he didn't finish four of them.

724
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: In school like that too. Sometimes you're winning by thirty

725
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: and it's like you're out of the game. That I

726
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: always get the freshman.

727
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: If they leave you in here, you're just like, we're

728
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: just running.

729
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: This isn't important. Yeah, I'm just gonna match a guy

730
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: in front of me. And right it's the tough eva. Yeah.

731
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and let's get to another break. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive

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Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish

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Speaker 1: And Matt Bucky Brooks, who earlier this week we did

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Speaker 1: his top five at each position. Yeah, yeah, he has

746
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: come up with a list here of guys who he

747
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: thinks will be All pros, oh fow Bowl players and

748
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: otherwise surefire starters in this upcoming draft.

749
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Speaker 3: So I was getting kick out of this time here,

750
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: you know, like, how does pick someone randomly like JC Latham, Okay, yeah, boy,

751
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 3: great run blocker, you know, mashes everybody. Yeah, but now

752
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: he has to go against Watt and Garrett and Crosby.

753
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: You know, Like becoming a really good prospect into a

754
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: starter into a All Pro yeah or pro is a big,

755
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: a big thing. Everyone looks these first round like, oh,

756
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: he'll be an All Pro, he's Pro Bowl type guy,

757
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: or you know.

758
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: There are two All Pro teams. First team is second team.

759
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: That's it.

760
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: And so when he's his first guy on here is

761
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. So you're telling me that Caleb Williams, right,

762
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: is going to be a first or second team All Pro.

763
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: He's going to be Patrick Mahomes, right.

764
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Speaker 3: I mean check that one.

765
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: So he's beating out Alan Burrow, Lamar Herbert on and

767
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: on and on and on and on. Yeah, Like that's

768
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 3: saying a lot.

769
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Speaker 1: I find that very hard to believe, right, because I

770
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's that good of a prospect.

771
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 3: You know, like, would you bet? I think I know answer?

772
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: But in his career will he ever be an All Pro?

773
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: The probably smart bet is no. I mean it's probably

774
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 3: like money I'm saying. In fact, there's only two even money,

775
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be three more in his draft class

776
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: he's competing with that are new and.

777
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: Three more next year and three more after that.

778
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: Right, Alan and Mahomes aren't going away anytime soon.

779
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: You're one of thirty two.

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00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And then there's gonna be the fluky year

781
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: that Kirk Cousins lights the world on fire and throws

782
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: fifty touchdowns and it has a career year.

783
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's like you're talking about you know, Ben Roethlisberger

784
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: never got a single MVP vote. Russell Wilson never got

785
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: a single m v people because you only give one.

786
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: You only give one vote. I mean, I wonder how

787
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 3: many players in the history of the NFL have gotten

788
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: MVP votes.

789
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Speaker 1: It's a low less It's not as many as you think,

790
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: right right right, He's Marvin Harrison on that, and some

791
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: of them have a lot, yeah, you know, Marvin Harrison,

792
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors, Roma Dunz.

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Speaker 3: I actually think all those are fine. I mean, wide

794
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: receiver's tough. I know there's four of them. We could

795
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: do the exact same thing we did at quarterback and

796
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: list unbelievable players at that position. But I would bet

797
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 3: yes on all three of them, and two of the

798
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: three might hit than my bet, you know, and brock

799
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 3: Bowers could be I mean, Kelsey's not gonna last forever,

800
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: Kittle's not gonna last. Yeah, but there's a huge influx

801
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: of a really good receiving tight ends last year Cade,

802
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: you know, like this could be kncage year with the

803
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: Diggs not around. I'm not throwing dirt on Kyle pitch

804
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: yet either no better quarterback this year? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

805
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: it's a make or break year, but he could make.

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00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: Uh Pro Bowlers. Joe Alt.

807
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: Tackle, I would say is probably easier. Yeah, you know,

808
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: I mean Trent Williams isn't gonna be there much longer,

809
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: and some incumbents.

810
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: Talasi Fuaga after Alt.

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Speaker 3: I would bet no. But I love this class. I

812
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 3: mean this is just a high praise, you know. L

813
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: two Yeah, I mean I would lump all those guys together.

814
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Quinna Mitchell.

815
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I word talking tackles.

816
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, then you had Mitchell.

817
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: Corner is an easier one. I mean, Lay two is

818
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: a really good prospect. Is he better than Brian Burns?

819
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Right?

820
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: And Burns is the eighth best edge guy in the league.

821
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: I mean you gotta beat out what Garrett, Crosby, Parsons

822
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 3: and Bosa. You know that's not easy, right, And whoever

823
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: comes out next year, that's a third pick of the draft.

824
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: Same thing with next year on here Byron Murphy, like.

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00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: There's there's like a police Aaron Donald retired, Like.

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Speaker 1: Ten defensive tackles in the league who.

827
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: Are right if Byron okay, put it this way, Let's

828
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: say Byron Murphy or lay two is really really good

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Speaker 3: their rookie year, they're the defensive rookie of the year,

830
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: like Will Anderson was defensive rookie the year. Not close,

831
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Speaker 3: I mean not even close. I mean got zero votes.

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00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: Probably is a Pro Bowl edge. That's tough.

833
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: That's tough, Uh, Cooper Dejeen No, see, I can see

834
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: Degene making it because he intercepts the football. Guys who

835
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: get interceptions make.

836
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowls especially well. One thing about him is if

837
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: he could get listed as a safety for the Pro

838
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 3: Bowl ballot, his odds went up dramatically. Corner is also

839
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Speaker 3: really very year to year two. You know, it's not

840
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Speaker 3: like Aaron Donald's gonna be tough to beat.

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00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: Every year you go out and pick off five passes,

842
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna be in the hunt to make

843
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, whether you're any good or not.

844
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Speaker 3: Like Diggs from the Cowboys. Yeah, I mean he got

845
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl votes that year.

846
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: I think you had MVP or he got NFL Defensive MVP.

847
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

848
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. So if you do have a fluky good year,

849
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: that is interesting. Yeah, that's a good way.

850
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: But we can't cover a bed.

851
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

852
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: Uh, Dallas Turner, you have to really hit Jared Verse.

853
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 3: No, Daniels quarterbacks are maybe, but that's a tough road man.

854
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: And then Peyton Wilson.

855
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: So it's myes. He did this by order best chance

856
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: of going. Just felt that way, you know, like the

857
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: guys because I thought he was going position by position. Yeah,

858
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 3: but it felt like the guys at the top. He

859
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 3: gives a better chance than the guys at the very end.

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00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: Williams would not been my one, no, I mean not

861
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 3: even close, right, And Byron Murphy might have a better

862
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: chance than Williams.

863
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: These are his Red Star players, and by red Star players,

864
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: these are the guys that he will stand up and

865
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: bang the table for because they are destined to make

866
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: their mark in the league despite circumstances. I don't know

867
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: why they're listed as some of these other guys. That

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Speaker 1: would be to give you an idea.

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Speaker 3: Like one thing we did in the Browns war room

870
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: is every scout had a Red Star that you went

871
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: up to the actual physical card and you kind of

872
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 3: like put your name on your stamp on, like I

873
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 3: put Charlie Frye because I was with him three months

874
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: ago in Akron. We end up drafting Charlie Fry he'd

875
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: ended up being great, but he didn't embarrass him. He's

876
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: a good kid, you know what I mean, Like you know,

877
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Speaker 3: so that's kind of what these guys are. I have

878
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: a hunch Terry and Arnold, okay. Michael Pennix, Yeah, I

879
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: mean I could see that. I mean, at a minimum,

880
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: I think he'll be a really good backup for a

881
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: long time and make it in this league. Mike Sinistro

882
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: another good one team captain, tough guy. You know.

883
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Speaker 1: Will Shipley is a red star guy.

884
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Speaker 3: For him, I've done done much work on him, to

885
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: be honest with you. I mean, I do some some

886
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: fantasy stuff with running backs, but for the Steelers, there's

887
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: no chance that his running backs are going to be

888
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: high picked, so they've been kind of in the back

889
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: burner for me.

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Speaker 1: And his last guy is Johnny Newton.

891
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: Okay. I don't know enough about him character wise, but

892
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: his tape is great. Yeah.

893
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Speaker 1: I think I think character wise he's solid.

894
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: I I don't think there's any issues. I didn't mean

895
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Speaker 3: it that way. I mean he plays hard.

896
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

897
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he might be a team captain too.

898
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is. Okay, So that's that's Bucky's

899
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Speaker 1: all pros, pro Bowlers, and overachievers. I guess that's his

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Speaker 1: five or his Red Star guys or overachievements.

901
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Speaker 3: That can makes some sense. The way I structured it was,

902
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 3: I trust this guy. I don't think he'll be a bust,

903
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 3: you know, as opposed to out kicking his coverage. The

904
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: pro bowlers, they are all pros. Back to that conversation,

905
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: you can't throw that around.

906
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: No, right, absolutely not. I mean you're there's a very

907
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: I mean when you talk about the top we talk

908
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: about making the top.

909
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: One hundred list in the NFL, right, was that top

910
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: three percent or four percent?

911
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Being all pro means you're basically top fifty to sixty.

912
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And there's a bunch of quarterbacks. I

913
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: mean some of the positions are awful. Yeah, may guard okay,

914
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: maybe center, okay, maybe. I mean there's there's not a

915
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: Mike Webster out there that goes every time. But man,

916
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: I mean some of these positions, you just you're not

917
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 3: gonna overcome its in front of you.

918
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Speaker 1: No, it's just I mean, they're just gonna make it.

919
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Speaker 3: That's just the when he goes one thing I do,

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Speaker 3: I don't like promote it. But I mean, like every

921
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: draft class, I put a chip down, like if one

922
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Speaker 3: guy in this draft class is going to go to

923
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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame, who would be my vote? And

924
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: then this one would be Harrison Junior. You know, like

925
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 3: I think there's a but it's still chance he goes. Right,

926
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Speaker 3: you better stay healthy your whole career. You better have

927
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Speaker 3: good luck, better have at least acceptable quarterback play. I

928
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Speaker 3: mean there's the Larry Fitzgerald's of the world that suffered

929
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Speaker 3: through some really bad years but still put up Hall

930
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 3: of Fame type numbers even without it. But then they

931
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Speaker 3: had the Kurt Warners that helped them. Like, you need

932
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: a lot of help and a lot of luck. I mean,

933
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Speaker 3: let alone to be a multiple pro bowler or all Pro,

934
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Speaker 3: I mean that's Hall of Fame stuff.

935
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is really different, like you think

936
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Speaker 1: about it. James Ferrier, great career, great career, right, I

937
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: think he was All Pro twice. He was playing with

938
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Speaker 1: ray Lewis right, playing in the ray Lewis Bryner er Lacker.

939
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Speaker 3: Okay, did an't the Niner guys overlap with him? Probably? Yeah?

940
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Speaker 3: I mean like Bowman then will at the end of

941
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Speaker 3: his career, those guys maybe, and so you know there's and.

942
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Speaker 1: They had one inside linebacker spot, so two got one.

943
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he's fighting them.

944
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Speaker 1: That's who you're fighting against.

945
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Speaker 3: And so a second team is a he was like amazing.

946
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Speaker 1: On suppose he second or third one year an NFL

947
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Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year award voting. He wasn't even

948
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Speaker 1: first team all.

949
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Speaker 3: Probably, Yeah, that's really something that's that's pretty interesting. So,

950
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 3: I mean, if you get Pro Bowl votes period, you're

951
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: had a phenomenal year, great player.

952
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get to another break. That's going to do

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Speaker 1: it for our number one of the driving Steelers Nation Radio.

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