1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania is probably the most important battleground state with nineteen 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: Electoral College votes. It's a state where Joe Biden barely 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: won in twenty twenty with just a little over one 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: percentage points. It's also a state where Republicans have been 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: gaining ground. When you look at voter registration compared to 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Democrats have seen a net loss of two 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven two hundred and eighty one. Republicans 9 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: have seen a net gain of four hundred and twenty 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: eight thousand, five hundred and thirty seven. So how does 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: that translate into twenty twenty four? What does that mean 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: for Republicans in the state. You look at the real 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: clear politics average, Donald Trump is up. But beyond that, 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: you look at some of the things that are happening 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: in the state. You've got the vulnerable Democrat Senator there 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Bob Casey, in the final couple of weeks of his election, 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: in his closing argument with paid advertising, trying to tie 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: himself to Donald Trump, touting is support of Donald Trump. 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: Listen to this, and he sided with Trump to end 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: NAFTACK and put tariffs on China to stop them from cheating. 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: So in this House we agree it's Bob Casey who's 22 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: doing right by Pennsylvania. I'm Bob Casey, and I definitely 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: approved this message. I've got to tell you someone you know. 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: Look, I was a communications director on his Senate race 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: on Wisconsin. I was the vice president of polling firm. 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: I've worked on a lot of campaigns throughout my time. 27 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: You don't tie yourself to someone who's politically unpopular in 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: her state. You don't tie yourself to someone who you 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: think is losing. What Bob Casey is hoping is split 30 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: ticket voters. He hopes that they vote for Donald Trump 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: on the top of the ticket and then they go 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: for him. This is a good sign for Republicans. But 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: today what we're going to do is we're going to 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: talk to someone who's very. 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: Much on the ground. 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: His entire business is grassroots campaigning. He's helped major wins 37 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: for people like Senator Rampaul Congressman Tom Massey, and he 38 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: is part of something called the Pennsylvania Chase. 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: It's an effort run by Citizens. 40 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: Alliance, and its objective is to knock on five hundred 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: thousand doors to chase Republicans in the state of Pennsylvania 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: to try to win. And what's interesting is if you 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: go back to twenty twenty, Trump lost by around eighty 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: thousand votes in Pennsylvania. Well, guess what, there were one 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: hundred and forty one thousand Republicans voters who left their 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: ballot on the dining room tables who didn't bother to 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: turn it in. 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: So that's what they're trying to do. 49 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: That's what Cliff Maloney is trying to do in the 50 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: state of Pennsylvania is to make sure no ballots are left, 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: no doors are left unknocked, that we are getting our 52 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: people out, and that we are winning the state. So 53 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: we're going to dig into the state of Pennsylvania with him. 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: What is he saying, what does he know and what 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: do you need to know? So stay tuned for that 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: conversation with Cliff. But first I want to tell you 57 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: a little bit about IFDJ. October seventh was the one 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: year mark of the worst master of the Jewish people 59 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: since the Holocaust. 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So the Phchase was 89 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: started about a year ago. It's a program of our organization, 90 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: which is called Citizens Alliance, and I served as the CEO. 91 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: And pretty much this all came to be because when 92 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: they changed all these rules in Pennsylvania, they allowed for 93 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: fifty days of mail in Ballance. You know, when I 94 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: grew up in Delaware County outside of Philadelphia, everybody voted 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: all one day election day, right, So in twenty twenty 96 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: during COVID, they kind of changed these rules. And the 97 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: Republican response in twenty twenty, which was my response, was well, 98 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: we want to vote the most sure way. And so 99 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: two million people voted for Joe Biden by mail, six 100 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: hundred thousand showed up for Trump. So we were down 101 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: by one point four million votes going into election day. 102 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: Trump won Election Day by one point three million votes, 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: but obviously wasn't enough to pull it off. And then 104 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, we all said, well, let's see if 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: the courts will change the rules. Back in twenty twenty two, 106 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: we said, let's see if the legislature will change the 107 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: rules back and LISTA. They did, right, and so then 108 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three we got such a shell lacking 109 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: that enough for Republicans and this just wasn't you know, 110 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 3: I remain yet right, but enough for Publicans. We're like, listen, 111 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: we need to figure out how to do what the 112 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: Democrats do. My whole career, at least has been doing 113 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: paid round games, putting together these infrastructures for Republican conservative campaigns, 114 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 3: and so we were kind of tapped to be the 115 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: group in Pennsylvania. That's why we launched the phase. And 116 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: I got to tell you it is wild and exciting 117 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: being on the ground in my home state knowing that 118 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: if we fix this mail in ballot problem for Republicans, 119 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: we not only win PA, we likely win the White House. 120 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 2: Well and what people you know, So when I was 121 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: on campaigns, I know worked as like a com udications 122 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: director and always on the commside. So you know, obviously 123 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: we're trying to get the message out, but I mean 124 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: it's up to you guys to get the votes out. 125 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: And if you don't chase those ballots, which is what 126 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: you guys are doing. If you don't get people to 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: actually turn in those mail ballots, actually get out to 128 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: the polls and vote, you know, none of it matters, right, 129 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: because you don't win the election, and so your objective 130 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: is to knock on five hundred thousand doors. I think 131 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: what's interesting about Pennsylvania right now, and I'd love to 132 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: kind of hear a little bit more about this from you, 133 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: is you know, there was a Fox article recently, a 134 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: lot written about Democrats losing their edge in voter registration, 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: and since twenty twenty, Democrats have seen a net loss 136 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: of two hundred and fifty seven thousand, two hundred and 137 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: eighty one. Republicans have seen a net gain of four 138 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight thousand, five hundred and thirty seven 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: and even in Philadelphia something like eighteen thousand, nine hundred 140 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: and twenty nine democrats changing their party affiliation. So that's 141 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: pretty significant. You know, what do you attribute that to? 142 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: And you know, how do you see that impacting this 143 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: presidential is. 144 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: Well, this is what I'd say, I'd much rather be 145 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: us than them, and especially the way the trends are going, 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: I mean they are hemorrhaging, right and we are gaining 147 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 3: and that's been you know, not just from since twenty twenty, 148 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: but since twenty sixteen. I mean their advantage now is 149 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: under a net of three hundred thousand. If you would 150 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: have told me that four years ago, I would thought 151 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: you're crazy, you know, And I just I think that 152 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: there's a lot to thank for that. But I think 153 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: the variable is Donald Trump, right, and the second variable 154 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: is Harris. 155 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: If people have now. 156 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: Seen when Harris administration is, what life is like, what 157 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: the economies like, what the borders like, and they prepared 158 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: it to Trump. I think that's why you're seeing all 159 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: these trends in terms of the numbers. And look, Democrats 160 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: are hammicking because everybody looks at poles. But then you 161 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: have the mail in ballot. Well, then you have registration 162 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: of course, then you have the mail in ballot requests 163 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: because remember in Pennsylvania you have to request. It's not 164 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: a state they automatically send everybody a ballot and so 165 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: each year a reset, so you have to request it 166 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: whoever requests it. You have all that data, and then 167 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: the most important data is when the party, each of 168 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: the registered members of the party return their ballot. All 169 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: that is public information. Now you don't know who they'vevted 170 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: it for, right, this is a secret ballot, but you 171 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: know when it comes back. And so our objective to 172 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: knock those five hundred thousand doors. The way we do 173 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: it is we have one hundred and twenty full time staff. 174 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: They've been on the ground since September first. We've not 175 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: just over three hundred thousand. So we are past a 176 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 3: halfway point and coming down to the final stretch these 177 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: last two weeks. But I am telling you it is 178 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: the greatest in terms of you're talking to people that 179 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: are on your team that have a ballot sitting on 180 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: their dining room tape. Okay, these are primary voters where 181 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: I've got to convince them that hey, this guy's a 182 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: strong constitutional conserve and this guy's a fake Republican needs 183 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: a rhino. Those are tough conversations, right, if you're in 184 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: a general election and you've got to talk to swing voters, Okay, 185 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: those are tough conversations. These doors are fun. It's like, hey, 186 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: we're here for the Republican ticket. You've got to ballot. 187 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: I know you're a Republican. Can we get you to 188 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: commit to voting today? And the Democrat tactic that we 189 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: stole from them. I'll be blunt about it, is you 190 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: go back every seven days. So if Bob tells me 191 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: he's going to submit his ballot, why check the data. 192 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: Seven days later, we run the report, and if Bob 193 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: hasn't voted yet, we're back at his door with the 194 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: same familiar faith. And so some of these people, I'm 195 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: not going to call him out by name, but some 196 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: of the Republicans were targeting. We've been to their door 197 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: three times. We might be there next week for a 198 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 3: fourth time. But Democrats call this a reminder campaign, and 199 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: this is the first election where Republicans are participating. We're 200 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 3: fighting fire with fire by matching your tech. 201 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: We've got more cliff. 202 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 2: But first, every twenty six seconds, violent crime takes place 203 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: in the United States, and rising crime threatens families. 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That's Sabre radio dot com. 217 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: You know, ed, what are you great hearing because you know, 218 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 2: obviously you're you know, you learn a lot more when 219 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: you're on the ground versus you know us kind of 220 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: like trying to look from the outside of what's going on, Like, 221 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: what are you guys hearing from these voters when you 222 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: were going to door to door? Like, what's your gut 223 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: instinct telling you right now? What are the issues that 224 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: the voters you're interacting with are most fired up about? 225 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: You know, kind of give us a little insight into 226 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: to what you guys have been learning and your efforts 227 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: to go door to door. 228 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I look at our daily tracker, you know, 229 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: I can see the numbers, I can see the feedback 230 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 3: on our surveys. I'm out chasing ballots myself as much 231 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: as I can be. There's a couple of things I've 232 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: notice that are different. Let me let me start the 233 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: things that aren't okay. The number one issue by far 234 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: order security and the idea of putting food on the data. Right, 235 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: The economy and the border. I mean, how you know, 236 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: maybe one versus two, two versus one depending on certain areas, 237 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: but those are the issues. 238 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: Right. 239 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: Are you better off four years ago than you are today? 240 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: Based on the economy, based on the border impacting your community? 241 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 3: I mean, these are the things that are ramped up 242 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: for Republicans to be frank. I mean Donald Trump is 243 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: brushing Kamala on both of those things. Right when it 244 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: comes to who has better solutions? Who do people trust more? 245 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 3: I mean every pole. Even in some of these polls 246 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: Democrats trump trust Trump, but are on the economy, it's 247 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 3: kind of wild. So on the two most important issues, 248 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: the Democrats are A to blame and B don't offer 249 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: any solution. But let me talking about some of the 250 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: anecdotal stuff that has been wild my time in Philadelphia, 251 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: Monco Bucks and Chester and Delco. I have never seen 252 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: les to the type of response from black men. They 253 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: are excited about Trump. They are not a fan of 254 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. And I'm specifically talking about black men. I'm 255 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: not talking about black women. I'm not the response from 256 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: black men. This is not twenty sixteen. Something has changed 257 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty. But I don't know if they just 258 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: were kind of bought into Joe Biden and there's been 259 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: this change. But I think it's the economy and them 260 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: going through four years of a Biden Harris administration. But 261 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: I'm not giving you like a oh, this happened one time, right, 262 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: The amount of black men in the Philly suburbs and 263 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: in the Pittsburgh suburbs that are excited about Donald Trump, 264 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: I think this will be an historic year for black 265 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: men when it comes to Republican support, you know. 266 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: And what's interesting about it is, you know, obviously, you know, 267 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: those of us who have worked in you know, politics, 268 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: it's like you're obviously looking at the polling. You know, 269 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: you're looking at the numbers and when you're going to 270 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: chase these ballots, but we're also looking at how the 271 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: campaigns are behaving, and they're messaging and and sort of 272 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, collective all of the information right and we've 273 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: seen them sort of make this desperate play for black 274 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: men to your point, and Obama trying to shame them 275 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: and like doing the whole like you ain't black if 276 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: you don't, you know, like but Biden did. And you know, 277 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: there's this real like shaming of black men right now, 278 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: which really goes to show you how concerned they are 279 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: about it. And there was this recent Politico article talking about, 280 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: you know, Democrat concerns in Pennsylvania. I'm sure you saw 281 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: it in the headline read Pennsylvania is such a mess 282 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: inside Team Harris's unusual levels of finger pointing, and they're 283 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: talking about concerns with black men as well. You know, 284 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean, what's how much have you learned about sort 285 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: of their ground game in the Democrats game in Pennsylvania. 286 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: Do you think this Politico article talking about, you know, 287 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: kind of Democrats concerns about lack of ground game and 288 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: it's all kind of falling apart in Pennsylvania. Has that 289 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: sort of like been your experience or you know kind 290 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: of what are your general thoughts about their ground game 291 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania. 292 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: So I think Politico gets it half right. Yeah, you know, 293 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: they say that, hey, they're flailing and they're you know, 294 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: they're not organized, and then they're not seeing results. So 295 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: I would argue they're extremely organized. I think they have 296 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 3: twice as many people on the ground as they had 297 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. I think they're spending twice as much money 298 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: as they did in twenty twenty, but they're not seeing 299 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: the results. Right. Let me give you some numbers, Okay, 300 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: so let's let's talk Democrats specifically, then I'll talk Republicans. 301 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: At this time, I'm talking as of this morning. Back 302 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, one point five billion Democrats had read 303 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: or should you had requested a ballot. Okay, today they're 304 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 3: just over a million. They're down five hundred thousand mail 305 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: in ballot requests. Now they can still request for the 306 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: next six days. Okay, just to be clear, But they've 307 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: never really spiked in the final week. They usually spike 308 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: in August the first half of September, and they missed that. 309 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: This is the first year that they were not able 310 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: to kind of do that, even with staff on the ground. 311 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: So when you're down a half a million requests, the 312 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: Democrat response to that is, oh, well, it's not COVID 313 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: and more they're going to vote on election day. Well, 314 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: we as Republicans, have learned it's much easier to get 315 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 3: somebody who's low propensity, meaning unlikely to vote. It's much 316 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: easier to get them to vote if you send them 317 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: a ballot and they have two weeks with it sitting 318 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: on their table, and you can go chase it and 319 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: get them to send it back. So now they're relying 320 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: on turning all those people on an election debt. And 321 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: so I actually tell people the biggest variable here is 322 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: not Trump support. I mean, we're crushing it with the 323 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: mail in ballots when we're doing our chase. I'll talk 324 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: to you about those numbers here. Shortly, Republicans are going 325 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: to show up on election date. The biggest variable is 326 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: how to Democrats take their whole model of banking the 327 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: vote and running up the score and now find themselves 328 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: flat footed and having to adjust because not enough people 329 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 3: requested and now they have to turn them all out 330 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, November fit. That to me is going to 331 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: be the story now. I still think Republicans, this is 332 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: our to loose. I think if we blow it out 333 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: of the park, there's no way they have the votes 334 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: to win. But if we're kind of mediocre on election day, 335 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: they'd have to pull off a miracle. So I'd much 336 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 3: rather be us. I think the numbers are in our favors. 337 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: And that's kind of the picture for the Democrats in 338 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: terms of requests where they were four years ago versus today. 339 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: You know, how much when we talk about sort of 340 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: Republicans changing their party affiliation, do you think that is 341 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: fully getting picked up? And the polling we're staying out 342 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania. 343 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: Now, and I think that anybody who tells you, and 344 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: this is not a shot at any of our friends 345 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: that do polling, but I just think anybody that tells 346 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 3: you that they've got a good sense of how to 347 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: predict some of these behaviors, there's just not enough data. 348 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 3: I mean, they change the rules in twenty twenty, so 349 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: we've had one presidential election, We've had two off here elections, 350 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 3: We've had one midterm. Those have been the four elections 351 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: to get us to today. None of those elections, except 352 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: for twenty one in twenty three, are really that comparable. 353 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 3: You know, twenty twenty we're in the height of COVID, right. 354 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: It was the first time you could actually request a 355 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 3: bail about it at vote by mail in Pennsylvania. So 356 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 3: I just think any pollster that's trying to figure it out, 357 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 3: it it just it's not that they're not trying, but 358 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: it's so hard because here's the thing you have to weigh. 359 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: Whenever somebody does a big poll, they're obviously looking at 360 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: weighing the pole, so it matches the demographics of who 361 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 3: is likely to vote. But what's tough is they're asking 362 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: people how they're going to vote, whether it's by mail, 363 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: in person, early in person, this new thing they have 364 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: at PA. And then obviously they're getting their likelihood of 365 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: voting based on the previous four eight elections how many 366 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: times they voted. The problem with that is when the 367 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: rules continuously change and the environment changes, a lot of 368 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: the ways that you would usually do predictive modeling don't 369 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 3: add up. And so I think the best way to 370 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: look at the polling is to understand that most of 371 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 3: the polls have always kind of been off by three 372 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: to four points, leaning left, meaning they you know, they 373 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: pushed Trump three or four on election day compared to 374 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: where he was, he did better than the polls. Well, 375 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: if you look at that comparison of twenty sixteen to 376 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty to twenty twenty four. Trump looks like he 377 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 3: did a great spot. I mean, you know, they had 378 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: him down like six or seven against Hillery and a 379 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: lot of the swing states, and he won the white 380 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: hat and then you know you're looking now they've got 381 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 3: it up by a point in a lot of these 382 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: swing states. So, you know, I feel confident. I think 383 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 3: the numbers are great, but obviously you have to execute. 384 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: You know, we've got two weeks thirteen days here. We 385 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: can't you know, we can't just sit back and think that, oh, 386 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: you know, we're in a good spot, because, like I said, 387 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 3: the Democrats had twice as many people as they did before. 388 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: So to answer your question specifically, I think they're extremely organized. 389 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: They're lacking organic energy. They're not connected. Harris is not 390 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: connecting with the people that they were able to put 391 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: a coalition together to win in twenty twenty. 392 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: And they're outspending the Trump team, you know, significantly. I 393 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: think I saw somewhere in September it was like three 394 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 2: to one or something. 395 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: No the numbers, I mean, you know, even just looking 396 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: at the TV ads, I mean, I think we're holding 397 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 3: our own in terms of you know, all the groups 398 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 3: on the right, but look at the return I mean, 399 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: this is this is what scares the Democrats more. Okay, 400 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: you mind if I go to. 401 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: That, Lisa, Yeah, go for it. 402 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 3: So the returns right now, Okay, Democrats have six hundred 403 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 3: and forty nine thousand returned registered Democrat ballots. Okay, we 404 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: don't live they're voting for, but use the party reads 405 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: to kind of get a signal. Republicans have three hundred thousand. 406 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 407 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: You might be sitting there saying, well, wait, clip, you 408 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 3: seem pretty optimistic. 409 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: You know what do you even? 410 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 3: I said, well, let's talk about the percentages. Okay, this 411 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: is the current returns by party. When I'm just comparing 412 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: Democrats to Republican I'm not looking independent, were minor parties 413 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: libertarian or green. Dems have six hundred and forty nine thousand, 414 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: the Gops three hundred thousand, So we have roughly thirty 415 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: two percent to their sixty eight percent. Okay, four years ago, 416 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 3: at this exact time, the Dems had eighty percent to 417 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: our nineteen percent. So we've gone from nineteen percent of 418 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: all mail in ballots at this time four years ago 419 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: to thirty one percent. And if the percentages are confusing, 420 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: think about it like this. Okay, Trump lost PA by 421 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 3: eighty thousand votes, and one number I always point to 422 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: because this baffles me. It blows my mind. One hundred 423 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: and forty one thousand registered Republicans in Pennsylvania went through 424 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: the process of requesting a mail in ballot and they 425 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 3: never sent it back, and he lost by eighty thousand votes. 426 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: They had a ballot sitting there. Nobody talked to them, right, 427 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: nobody went and chased their ballot and said, hey, need 428 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 3: you to send that in. But if you look at 429 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: the row numbers, Lisa, in twenty twenty, the Dems are 430 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: down roughly one hundred thousand from where they were at 431 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: this point. This is returns, not requests. Republicans are up 432 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventeen thousand for where we were, and 433 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 3: so that in itself is a two hundred let's just 434 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 3: call it two hundred thousand in the right direction for 435 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 3: us in a state where we lost by eighty thousand votes. 436 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 3: So once again, the Democrat reaction, or their excuse or 437 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: their response is, well, don't worry, our people are going 438 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: to show up on election debt. Good luck. I mean, 439 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 3: we're going to fight them too. 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That's sabre radio 463 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: dot com. I also, you know, one thing I think 464 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: is really telling to me about where Donald Trump stands 465 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: in penns Sylvandia is that Democrat and Senator Bob Casey 466 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: and his closing argument to voters and is closing paid 467 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: messaging to voters, and an ad is trying to tie 468 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 2: himself to Donald Trump, trying to tout Donald Trump. And 469 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: you don't tire, you don't pay to tie yourself to 470 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: someone who's unpopular or if you think is losing your state. 471 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean, he's clearly hoping that there's split ticket voters 472 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: the vote for Trump and him as well. And if 473 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: you want to just talk about bipartisanship, you could just 474 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: talk about voting with But you don't tie yourself to 475 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: Donald Trump unless you think that's politically advantageous. So I 476 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: think to me, you know, that sort of tells us 477 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: at least what direction he thinks the state is heading in. 478 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. I think if you're Donald Trump, 479 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: it's a great time. Yeah. One of the the top 480 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 3: of ticket right below you down ballot, you know, is 481 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: praising you. I think what it probably means is that 482 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 3: Casey has looked at the numbers and they realize they 483 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: have to pull off. You know, a couple of these 484 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: folks that are you know, let's say Trump McCormick, but 485 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 3: they could be Trump Casey, And I think that that's 486 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 3: you know, the message you're looking at. But yeah, it 487 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: tells you just how popular Trump is. And I think, 488 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: you know, Casey is trying to distance himself from the 489 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: far left, you know, and I think Harris in Pennsylvania 490 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: has done a pretty poor job of trying to moderate 491 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: or pretend that she's moderating right, and I think Casey 492 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: realizes that. So he's trying to, you know, figure out 493 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: a way to the distance himself. But I got to 494 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 3: tell you, I got to give Dave McCormick a lot 495 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 3: of credit. He's probably run the best campaign stay wide, 496 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: I've seen in all my time at politics. I m PA, 497 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 3: you know, just fully funded on message, running on a 498 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: strong conservative platform. He's not holding back. And look, I'll 499 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: give credit to Dave, But if you would have told 500 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: me a year ago, before any candidate was selected in 501 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 3: the primary, right, if you would have told me a 502 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: year ago, Bob Casey was piple. Look, I spent a 503 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: lot of years in Pennsylvania, and the Casey name is 504 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 3: just one of those you know, it's kind of goal. 505 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: But I think his time is up. I think if 506 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: the trends continue the way they do, I think Casey 507 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: loses by half a point to a point. Meetcormick wins, 508 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: and I think Trump wins by somewhere between two to 509 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: four points. I'm hoping it's six to ten and we've 510 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: got a lamp big yeah. Because you know, listen, our 511 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 3: whole program is not just you know, Trump and McCormick 512 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: love us. Why because they're on every door, They're on 513 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: every ballot. We knock on five hundred thousand doors, all 514 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: of them help them. So what we're doing is we're 515 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: focused on a couple down ballot battles, some congressional people 516 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 3: like Scott Perry who's in a fight for his political life, 517 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: and then honestly our other when you look at the 518 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: ten airbnbs, they're really based on state house targets. So 519 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: I know this isn't you know, as sexy for those 520 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 3: that just care about the White House. But we're able 521 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: to kind of have a double and triple dip because 522 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: if we can take back the State House. We're down 523 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 3: by one seat right now. Then we'll have the State 524 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: House and the State Senate to hold Shapiro, you know, 525 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: as a check in balance, we get Scott Perry back there, 526 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: former Freedom called his chair, the elect McCormick, the Elect Trump, 527 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: you know, all the other state wides. I mean, I 528 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: think there's potential here for a landslide night, But I 529 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: don't want to get ahead of myself. Yeah, but I 530 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: do think the work that these one hundred and twenty 531 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 3: full time chasers are doing, it's something we've never done before. 532 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: And by the way, Lisa, any any of your listeners 533 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 3: who want to come out to PA. We got housing, 534 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: we got gas cards, we got food. PA chase dot 535 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: Com slash sprint. That is our final sprint if anybody 536 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: wants to apply it. If you can't come out, this 537 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 3: is my big pitch. My art asked if you cannot 538 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: come out, one hundred and seventy five dollars sponsors a 539 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 3: full day of ballot chasing. All that money goes to 540 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: the chasers, pay their housing, their gas cards. That's PA 541 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 3: Chase dot Com. You gotta win PA to win the 542 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: White House. And I think if we fix this this 543 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 3: male in ballot problem of Democrats dominating. We win, and 544 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: if we win, I think the path of the White 545 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 3: House is almost guaranteed. 546 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: Well and it also helps you know, I think, you know, 547 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 2: obviously Republicans are gonna win the Senate with we just 548 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 2: had she on the show in Montana, but to get 549 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: McCormick in there would just give Trump we're buffer and 550 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: trying to get things done in Congress. We had McCormick 551 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: on the show not too long ago. I was really 552 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: impressed with him. I think Republicans have done a really 553 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 2: good job this cycle of just fielding some really stellar candidates, 554 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: whether it's She or McCormick or Marino and you know, Ohio, 555 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: it's there's this been really impressed with the folks that 556 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: have come on the show, which I think gives them 557 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: a better chance of taking out some of these long 558 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: time incumbents, like you know, Bob Casey in Pennsylvania, because 559 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: you can't do that unless you just have a really 560 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: impressive candidate. And Dave McCormick certainly is you know, before 561 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: we go, you know, Trump's been talking about we've got 562 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: to make these says too big to rig, you know, 563 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: how concerned about you are. How concerned are you about 564 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 2: that in some of these places like Philly in Pittsburgh. 565 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I tell people, you know, I had a 566 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: tweet I put out yesterday where one of our door 567 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: knockers and Uri was up and he found this house 568 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: that had fifty three registered voters ended up being a 569 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: monastery for nuns. And he goes into the house and says, hey, 570 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 3: you know, we're here because there's one Republican ballot that 571 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: was not returned. The woman at the front desk said, oh, 572 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: nobody lives here. 573 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: This is Tomnest. Now we don't. 574 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: We don't. We don't have people to live here. If 575 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: anybody's here, they just do one night. We don't do 576 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: long term. And so I tell people, being on the ground, 577 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: were able to see so much. So like our attorneys 578 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 3: are reporting that just to confirm. You know, if somebody's 579 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 3: using that as an address and they're you know, want 580 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: a mission somewhere, okay, that's fine. But if fifty three 581 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: people are using that address and nobody really as residents there, 582 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: that's a problem. And so I think the one thing 583 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: I'm excited about is to start off, is when you 584 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: have boots on the ground and you have people out 585 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: there working instead of just waiting for election day. You 586 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: can get ahead on some of the problems. You can 587 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: be proactive instead of reacting. And so Elon's got his 588 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: system in the group where you can report things. We 589 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: throw other things to the rn C when we can 590 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: work with them quietly. And I'll give the rn C 591 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: tons of credit. Okay, under Watley and under Trump, I 592 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: have been extremely impressed with their commitment to the grassroots, 593 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: their openness to share targets and data when it's legal, 594 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 3: where they've kind of come together not just with US 595 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: as Citizens Alliance, Turning Point Action, America First Work, Early 596 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: Vote Action, so many of these grassroots group that have 597 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 3: come together, and I think you're finally seeing that the 598 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: rn C. To answer your question, I am very confident 599 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: in their ability to cycle, to provide the attorneys to 600 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: be proactive, to be prepared, get things done ahead of time. 601 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: But here's my answer on Pennsylvania. People aren't going to 602 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: like this. Okay. We just had a primary race where 603 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: we took out an incumbent who was a pretty corrupt Republican. 604 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: We replaced him with an America First Patriot twenty thousand votes. 605 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: Task This is for state House in Pennsylvania this past spring. 606 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: We won by eight votes out of twenty thousand votes cast. 607 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 3: It was a battle. They didn't certify that election until 608 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: six weeks ago. We waited four months in the courts. 609 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 3: So here's my warning. Yeah, okay, And I know why 610 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: the left is starting to warn because they know it's 611 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: going to happen. If we don't win by more than 612 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: the amount of provisional ballots that are left. The left 613 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 3: is going to fight tooth and nail. And this is 614 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: what happens when it comes to judges. I don't care 615 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 3: if the Republican or Democrat. No judge wants to say 616 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: that he disenfranchised voters. That's the line I'd learned it. 617 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: I just went through. It took us four months. We 618 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: finally got the election certified, but they led about three 619 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: hundred additional ballots count in Pennsylvania. You have to sign 620 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: the mail in ballot, you have to date it, and 621 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 3: you have to have a secrecy sleep. Those are the big, 622 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 3: big requirements. If you don't have one of those three things, 623 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: they move it into a provisional pile. Now, we all 624 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: remember what happened in Philly in the middle of the 625 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: night four years ago is because the Board of Elections said, well, 626 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: we're going to rule that we're going to count those 627 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: provisionals because we don't want to disenfranchise vote, and no 628 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: judge had the courage to overturn that. That's where you 629 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: see these tens of thousands to hundreds one thousands of 630 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: things come in. So there's two things we're doing to 631 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: fight that. One, we've got the attorneys on standby. Two, 632 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: we're cutting into the Democrat lead on mail in ballots. 633 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: That way, if there's any ruling on mail in ballots 634 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 3: that adds more of them or says hey, these are 635 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 3: going to count instead of it being eighty twenty which 636 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 3: has been the Republican average. Eighty for the Democrats, twenty 637 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 3: percent for Republicans. When you look at all the mail 638 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: in ballots in PA, that's been the average. So any 639 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: time a new batch is counted, we're getting crushed by 640 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: sixty points. If we get that up to thirty three 641 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: percent for the Republicans versus their sixty seven percent, we 642 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: think that is the line in the sand where Pennsylvania 643 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: becomes a red state. And so my entire objective with 644 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 3: this PA Chase program Yes, I want in the want 645 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: to win the White House. Yes I want to take 646 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: back the Senate. We've got other projects in the state. 647 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: But I'm encouraging that. You know, if we don't get 648 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 3: there this cycle, Republicans need to get that mindset when 649 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: you get to thirty three percent, no longer is it 650 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: about adjusting the rules. And you know eventually you'll have 651 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: some parody. The culture will change. But I think we 652 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: can't be in a position where every batch of mail 653 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: and balance that comes in we get crushed because they 654 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: will find a way to get them to count. So 655 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 3: my final statement here, too big to rig. We've got 656 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: to have more. We have to win by a larger 657 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: margin than the amount of provisional ballots that are left. 658 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: Because if you do that, there's nothing to fight for. 659 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: It's over. And I think we need that on November fifth, 660 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: So everybody make a plan to vote. If you can 661 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: go to your county right now, do it. You can 662 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: do an on demand now in ballot on the spot, 663 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 3: build it out. I don't have to use the post office, 664 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 3: goes right into the machine, and I encourage everyone to 665 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: do it asap. This election will decide the future of 666 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: the republic. 667 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: Too big to rig. Cliff. 668 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: I really appreciate your time. Thanks for what you're doing. 669 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: Cliff Maloney, Thank you for what you're doing. Keep us updated. 670 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 2: Got to win Pennsylvania. 671 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: Thanks Lise. I appreciate you, guys. I appreciate it. 672 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: Time give the website one more time before we go. 673 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 3: Sure, pa Chase dot com and I'm on x at 674 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: Maloney it's Pachase dot com. 675 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: Thank you, Cliff, appreciate it. 676 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: Thanks all. 677 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: So it was Cliff Maloney with the Pennsylvania Chase. Appreciate 678 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 2: him for taking the time to join the show. Appreciate 679 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 2: you guys at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, 680 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: but of course you can listen throughout the week. I 681 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 2: want to thank John Cassio, my producer, for putting the 682 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: show together. 683 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: Until next time.