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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, so this was the first nationwide grounding of

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Speaker 2: Two countries at the same time. We haven't had this

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Speaker 1: Well, I kept hearing all morning it's aging computer systems

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Speaker 6: So I said, she needs psychiatric help. You can tell

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Speaker 1: I've been down here forty years.

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Speaker 5: He said police and city workers told him they could

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Speaker 2: I just snapped.

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Speaker 6: I was watering around her, and I just snapped when

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Speaker 1: Did everything could with this woman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, can you I'd snap too after a while,

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Speaker 2: He runs an art gallery. Okay, you get a certain

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Speaker 2: What do you think is gonna happen after a while?

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Speaker 2: And by the way, how many, countless, dozens hundreds of

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Speaker 1: No, this poor guy death threats graffeiti they're putting on

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Speaker 2: You know, he tries to help the victim all this time.

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Speaker 2: He's been there for forty years, never caused any trouble.

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Speaker 2: He has a business, he's paying taxes. And the London breeds,

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Speaker 1: Is as usual. Somebody give flips out their phone and

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Speaker 6: I've been here twenty years, We've had tons of problem,

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Speaker 6: Trying to do something we have been ablehood to pass

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Speaker 7: I've listened to her, talked to.

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Speaker 3: The people and say, no, this this is the way

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Speaker 3: I want to live my idea of cleanly.

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Speaker 7: This is not your idea.

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Speaker 1: I've listened to her. But fine, if she knows what.

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Speaker 2: She's say, my idea of cleanliness is not your idea.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's the standard. Okay. And and and he has

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Speaker 2: to take all this abuse. What a stupid what a

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Speaker 2: horrible city. San Francisco is, London Breed is a horrible mare.

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Speaker 2: All those bureaucrats, all those homeless cheats, everybody works for

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Speaker 1: January eleventh. There you go. We were just talking about

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. Some guy decided to hose down a homeless

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Speaker 2: No, it's horrible the way London Breed runs that city

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Speaker 1: This story in the Wall Street Journal about the dwindling

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Speaker 1: They recorded three point seven million trips in November. That's

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Speaker 1: Think about that, they've lost two thirds of their trips.

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Speaker 1: Beyond the fact that they have failing transit systems and

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Speaker 1: You don't hear a lot about Cincinnati with these problems.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they have homeless people, but you don't hear

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Speaker 2: No, they come from Ohio. They come from Texas. All

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Speaker 2: the homeless people homeless people, yes, because they're moved on.

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Speaker 2: The metro system here is a complete disaster. The ridership

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Speaker 2: It's a dead system. It's a huge waste of billions

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Speaker 1: Same thing is true. How many times you see the

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Speaker 2: If you can't guilt the left wing bedwetters in San

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they haven't had so much meth or fentanyl that

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Speaker 2: Of their brain is gone, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they realize that they want to continue on.

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Speaker 2: You would have to be on meth and fentonel to

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Speaker 1: But the homeless are neighbors. Why not share the train

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Speaker 2: You know what this is? This is where you judge

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Speaker 2: all the vagrants on the trains. You know, they could,

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Speaker 2: they could babble all the platitudes they want about being

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Speaker 2: They would, They're not going to share a train ride

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Speaker 1: Oh the proof out of New York. New York's MTA

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Speaker 1: took a survey sixty percent of subway riders say they're

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Speaker 1: writing less do to safety concerns. Major transit crimes are

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Speaker 1: up thirty percent last year compared with twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: That's the prof they it's not just so much about

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Speaker 1: it all. They don't have to go to work every

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Speaker 1: day now. It's also it's exacerbated by the fact that

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Speaker 1: they don't feel safe.

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Speaker 2: They run all the crimes on the news every night

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Speaker 2: in New York. That's all people say, like we do,

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Speaker 2: all all the crazy subway attacks, people getting pushed in

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Speaker 2: front of trains, pushed off the platforms.

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Speaker 1: Here's a great quote from someone who you know is handwringing.

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Speaker 1: Laurie Romero is a lawyer who lives in Brooklyn and

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Speaker 1: works in downtown Manhattan. She rarely goes to her office anymore.

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Speaker 1: The homeless are sad, but the floridly psychotic and dangerous

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Speaker 1: make going into Manhattan a challenging experience. Well, isn't that

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Speaker 1: a soft way of putting it?

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Speaker 2: You know what, that's not the way she talks in

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Speaker 2: real life. Floridly psychotic, floridly psychotic and dangerous.

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Speaker 1: It's a challenging you know what.

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Speaker 2: These people, these people are like monsters. It's like they

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Speaker 2: rolled up out of hell to terrorize people were standing

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Speaker 2: on the surface. You know, you know what, and good

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Speaker 2: the whole system dies that all these mass transit systems

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Speaker 2: are are antiquated, they're added date, they're headed towards permanent useless,

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Speaker 2: permanent uselessness because people don't have to take it to

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Speaker 2: go to work, and they don't have to put up

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Speaker 2: with homeless people in the insane and the drug addicts.

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Speaker 2: They don't have to.

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Speaker 1: And we got more coming up. Johnny ken KF I

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app or the website to pick up the

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Speaker 1: podcast and hear the entire show. John Nobody won the

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Speaker 1: Mega millions last night, so it's now a half billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Ratchets up the tension even further, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very exciting for the next drawing

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: When you go to buy your little sugar cookies or

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Speaker 1: whatever you buy at that grocery store, you know you

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Speaker 1: can probably pick up a lottery ticket.

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Speaker 2: That's right. It's always on my mind. I just I'll

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Speaker 2: never get around to it. I don't know what happens.

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Speaker 1: It's funny how that works. One of the more unusual

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Speaker 1: stories of the week concerns a woman in Missouri that

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Speaker 1: has taken this all the way up to the Missouri

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court. She wanted money from Geico Geico, you know

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Speaker 1: the Gecko Geico, the Maryland based insurance company. Here's the logic.

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Speaker 1: They called it an unusual legal strategy. She apparently had

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Speaker 1: sex with a man in his twenty fourteen hun day

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Speaker 1: Hyundai Genesis, to be exact, And she did this in

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and she got she got HPV, She got

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Speaker 1: a sexually transmitted disease human papilloma virus HPV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the theory was it was in the car, and

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Speaker 1: his car has insurance, so pay me.

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Speaker 2: So she sued Geico for catching a venereal disease in

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Speaker 2: the back seat.

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Speaker 1: The front seat. He took the front seat and put

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Speaker 1: it all the way down, you know how people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I was wondering. Was she does

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Speaker 2: it matter it was in the car? Was it front

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Speaker 2: seat or back seat sex girl.

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Speaker 1: She just as a reminder HPV can cause cervical cancer

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Speaker 1: and genital wartz. Well, which is just a horrible phrase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why you don't have sex with strangers.

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Speaker 2: I mean, no, you got it. You gotta hand it

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Speaker 2: to a woman willing to have sex in a hunday.

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Speaker 2: So of course she's gonna like.

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Speaker 1: She asked guy for a million dollars. She went to

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Speaker 1: them and she wrote, just let me know. They of

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Speaker 1: course refused, and that's what did not occur during normal

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Speaker 1: use of the vehicle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that's covered in the insurance policy

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Speaker 2: right that they cover any sexually transmitted diseases that are

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Speaker 2: picked up by passengers.

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Speaker 1: So get this. They went to arbitration. The arbitrator decided

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Speaker 1: the man had negligently infected her and the warder damage

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Speaker 1: is a five point two million, which the arbitrator said, well,

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Speaker 1: Geico will pay that. Geico said, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: What kind of a crazy guy was that?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean the insurance company pays because this

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Speaker 2: guy gives I would even call it a girlfriend, gives

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Speaker 2: this woman a disease, and the insurance companies on the hook.

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Speaker 2: What the hell. Well.

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Speaker 1: Eventually the Missouri Supreme Court agreed with Geico that they

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Speaker 1: are not.

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Speaker 2: Liable that little hpv vog was crawling inside of him,

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Speaker 2: that was in his system.

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Speaker 1: There was a lower court ruling that favored Guicoe paying

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Speaker 1: the woman.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's that's that's crazy. Where where in the insurance

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Speaker 2: policy doesn't cover sexually transmitted diseases?

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Speaker 1: And apparently one of their causes was they were not

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Speaker 1: allowed to the word they use here is intervene in

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Speaker 1: the US. Okay, all right, So now if you're the

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Speaker 1: one that's being told you have to pay, of course

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Speaker 1: you can intervene. But a judge rule they can't.

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Speaker 2: So if you catch the HPV in a in a motel,

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Speaker 2: is the motel responsible for all the diseases that have

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Speaker 2: been transmitted there?

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's true. Well, plus if you what if you

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Speaker 1: catch it in somebody's house, you got homeowners the homeowners

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Speaker 1: policy covers that? Does homeowners cover STDs? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's why they called this an unusual legal strategy.

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Speaker 2: Try it out. It's a it's a rip off, it's.

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Speaker 1: I got the right lawyer a class try this case.

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Speaker 2: There's somebody you want to take home all right.

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Speaker 8: Conways here, I can speak firsthand that homeowner insurance does

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Speaker 8: not cover STDs.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, firsthand, you've done some research. Where were your hands?

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Speaker 7: It was a bad college thing.

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Speaker 8: I had a friend who went to a party and

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Speaker 8: he had a he had a cold, sir on his lip,

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Speaker 8: the size of like a coke can. And school he

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Speaker 8: went to a party with that on his lip, and

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Speaker 8: everybody still talks about it.

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Speaker 7: It's forty three years later.

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Speaker 1: Was he trying to pick up women?

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Speaker 7: I think he was trying to pick up penicelin? At

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Speaker 7: some point?

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Speaker 1: You stay home, don't you.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, you stay home and you

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Speaker 8: tell everybody you're sick. You do not go out like that,

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Speaker 8: crush up. No, no, no, no, you do not go out

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Speaker 8: like that. Nobody will ever ever remember or ever forget that.

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Speaker 8: Alex Jones coming on with us with the flight delays

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Speaker 8: this morning were horrible. You know, the FAA system all

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Speaker 8: went in the toilet, and then Jason Nathanson the best

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Speaker 8: and worst moments are the worst and much worse moment.

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Speaker 8: So the twenty twenty three Golden Globes. Did you watch

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Speaker 8: it all? You guys watching my wife?

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Speaker 2: No? Ron briefly now, I don't watch awards show. It's woke,

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Speaker 2: it's boring, it's people I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that's right, all right. I didn't see most

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Speaker 8: of the movies. And look, I wasn't up for one

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Speaker 8: this year, so I didn't go, Oh.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's what you were last year? Were eligible

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Speaker 2: last year?

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Speaker 8: Yes, the ensemble cast of Licorice Pizza was up for Pizza, up.

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Speaker 7: For awards, and I we did not win out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm paired to speech.

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Speaker 7: I'm still pissed at the Globe. You noticed, I call

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Speaker 7: him the Globes.

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Speaker 2: That's an industry, and you've always been an insight.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 8: And then David gold Scene's coming on with US investigates

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Speaker 8: on how business owners downtown are. Well, you're avoiding and

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Speaker 8: then dealing with the homeless issue, right, I see, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: all right, I guess I guess it's San Francisco Roses.

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Speaker 2: That was his strategy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but you know what, Look, that guy's taking a

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Speaker 8: lot of heat. He's been putting up with that woman

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Speaker 8: for three years, yes, and she sits in front of

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Speaker 8: his business and and he it costs him money every single.

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Speaker 2: Day a long time. Again.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the guy the guy made it for quite some time,

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Speaker 8: and I was getting death threats.

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Speaker 7: Yes, death threats, right, that's Nutty.

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Speaker 1: Uh Conway's next show

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