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Speaker 1: one time. That's how our lives are. Whenever we whenever
Speaker 1: stuff starts happening, it's just like six things at once.
Speaker 1: Forget all that. No, but it is no, I mean
Speaker 1: that's what this is. This is its number one. State
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Speaker 1: like I can't say that because we don't want people
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Speaker 1: to say, I had a whole thing. If you like
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Speaker 1: you're wasting your time. The audio version which I got
Speaker 1: my little part that I didn't said my thing, and
Speaker 1: it's awesome. This book right here. Listen. My family members
Speaker 1: sat down and read the book together. They read all
Speaker 1: of it. You know, obviously we talked about all the time.
Speaker 1: My mom's stroke has caused, you know, but she can read.
Speaker 1: Of course she can read, but it's not the same
Speaker 1: her attentions then, you know, so she's like she needs
Speaker 1: that encouragement. So they decided they were going to all
Speaker 1: focus on the book together, and they all came to
Speaker 1: the same conclusion that your part was. They didn't say
Speaker 1: my part was as good as your part. Actually, that's
Speaker 1: kind of funny. I'm that kind of guy. I want
Speaker 1: to read some of you know what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want to read. I want to I want
Speaker 1: you to read a little bit, but I'm gonna find it.
Speaker 1: While you're talking about bottom life. The book is awesome,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. What she did to get
Speaker 1: to the book is awesome. The work that she's done,
Speaker 1: it's awesome. You know, all of the work that she's
Speaker 1: been doing for twenty plus years is awesome, and that's
Speaker 1: what led to this book. So I just want to
Speaker 1: congratulate you, thank you very much. You know. The thing
Speaker 1: about it is that the timeline was so aggressive and
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know because if they're probably
Speaker 1: not thinking about it. I mean, if I was someone
Speaker 1: that heard, Okay, you have a book coming out, I
Speaker 1: want to assume you've been working on this for a while, right,
Speaker 1: because that's how I know books to be done. People
Speaker 1: work and they do a lot of stuff in this situation.
Speaker 1: From you know, I made did the speech. I said
Speaker 1: the speech at what I don't know if if you
Speaker 1: said it, if you did it, if you delivered that's
Speaker 1: what you did. You delivered. So I delivered a speech
Speaker 1: um which was the day after George Floyd had been
Speaker 1: murdered when we went to Minneapolis, and maybe a month
Speaker 1: or so later there were people calling agents saying hey,
Speaker 1: especially um Ashley Antwinette is a young a black sister
Speaker 1: who was a writer herself, Um, and she had the
Speaker 1: idea to say hey. She went to her partner, a
Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of Mark, and she said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we should work with Tamika Mallory
Speaker 1: and they got in touch with us and they were like,
Speaker 1: you need to write down everything that was in that
Speaker 1: speech plus more all you know, the references from where
Speaker 1: it comes from when you talk about the history, what
Speaker 1: is the history? And we went through this whole thing.
Speaker 1: And I still at that point because people have been
Speaker 1: telling me I needed to write a book even before
Speaker 1: that speech, and I still was kind of like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I knew it would be time consuming. We
Speaker 1: run so much. I also knew that, you know, and
Speaker 1: I also don't always like the attention. So I was
Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't think this is a good idea.
Speaker 1: But with our management, Toya and others, they were like,
Speaker 1: you need to do it. And so when I learned
Speaker 1: of the timeline that they wanted it out now, which
Speaker 1: is less than a year, right, and so you think
Speaker 1: about it didn't happen the day that I made this speech.
Speaker 1: This happened a month or two later. There's contracts, there
Speaker 1: is this, there is that. So let's just say we
Speaker 1: started writing somewhere around August, and Ashley and I wrote together,
Speaker 1: and I had to sit and do zoom calls while
Speaker 1: getting my hair done, zoom calls in the airport, zoom
Speaker 1: calls while we were out of town at different places.
Speaker 1: If everybody else is going out to dinner having a
Speaker 1: good time, and I'm like, I can't, I gotta stay.
Speaker 1: That commitment was very humbling and very necessary because what
Speaker 1: it taught me is that I can actually do it.
Speaker 1: And there's an actual hard all book. But I still
Speaker 1: got to find your parts. You can read like a liner.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I'm not going to say no,
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Speaker 1: a lot of great our testers and shows. Um. But
Speaker 1: also he has his imprint, a brand new imprint, black published,
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Speaker 1: off Black Privilege because you know, Charlene is black back,
Speaker 1: so everything is so black that sometimes I get them confused.
Speaker 1: But my book is actually the first release on his imprint.
Speaker 1: So we're making black history. And people don't think that
Speaker 1: we will buy books that we that we like to read,
Speaker 1: but we actually do. And I know we love to
Speaker 1: be into sort of the relationship books and you know,
Speaker 1: the mind, body and soul and those things are great.
Speaker 1: But how we get free in the country that we
Speaker 1: built is also a part of what I think we
Speaker 1: need to be reading, educating ourselves on and similar to
Speaker 1: working with my mom making sure she can sit and focus,
Speaker 1: we can do that with our families in general, and
Speaker 1: to use this as an opportunity to help educate and
Speaker 1: just bring people along. Um. You know, and I'm not
Speaker 1: just saying it because it's my book, as I think
Speaker 1: I'm meant to say before that when I was talking
Speaker 1: to t T Torres our Home Girl from Hot ninety seven,
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Speaker 1: a fast read, that she was reading it and getting
Speaker 1: through it. And really that's when you can read good.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's when it's something that you want to
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Speaker 1: the truth that often things but needs to be told
Speaker 1: that as black people in America, any one of us,
Speaker 1: at any moment, can be a victim of the injustice system.
Speaker 1: State of Emergency gives us the words and the tools
Speaker 1: to fight for the justice our families deserve, and vows
Speaker 1: to create a world when no one has to lose
Speaker 1: their beloved child at the hands of the state. Justice
Speaker 1: for my daughter, Brianna Taylor. My heart is broken, but
Speaker 1: my fight is strong. That's tough. This book right here,
Speaker 1: listen to me. It's a dope book, not just because
Speaker 1: I'm in it and I have something that's you know,
Speaker 1: not just because not just because you're part of my
Speaker 1: team and I'm in a book is good, not just
Speaker 1: because you helped me, because you did not. I didn't
Speaker 1: write nine there, okay, and I made it my own,
Speaker 1: so that is not quite writing. Whatever you say, but
Speaker 1: not just because you know I did what I did,
Speaker 1: but because it is what it is. And I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to say, man like, I'm just trying what is that?
Speaker 1: Just look at it. I mean, I'm just trying to understand.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that came from. I don't get
Speaker 1: nothing that's worth slow. I know you don't think I
Speaker 1: didn't know. I'm just telling you that you see the
Speaker 1: video would have to say, no, this is not what
Speaker 1: it's something. Look, look, you're gonna blame me. I don't
Speaker 1: blame somebody, Sloan. I'm gonna find your parts so you
Speaker 1: can tell people a little bit about anyway. Audio version though,
Speaker 1: has your you're you're reading, um, we have two of
Speaker 1: my young sisters who are reading on behalf of Cardi
Speaker 1: B and Angela Davis is forward. They're reading it and
Speaker 1: they love it. They're so excited that I chose to
Speaker 1: have them to be a part of it, you know,
Speaker 1: locking down Cardi after she already spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time writing what she wanted to say, and then you know,
Speaker 1: working with me to make sure that she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to be real, Like okay, we want we
Speaker 1: want you to be real. Say what you want to say.
Speaker 1: She wrote it, we talked about it. You know, she's very,
Speaker 1: very thoughtful and creative. Cardi is not the kind of
Speaker 1: individual that's just gonna throw some ship together and throw
Speaker 1: in the world. That's not what she knows. She's going
Speaker 1: to be overly critiqued, so make sure that her message
Speaker 1: is properly shut out to Hybridge just find this carty party. B.
Speaker 1: And so she's very very particular. And Angela Davis, of course,
Speaker 1: Dr Angela Davis is not going to write her part
Speaker 1: until she sees what Cardi has to say. Since y'all
Speaker 1: told me you want me to respond to the young uns,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to do it. Let me see what the
Speaker 1: young and has. So we're waiting for Cardi to finish
Speaker 1: her part and then go get Dr Davis to work
Speaker 1: on her part and then let'sten check this out. This
Speaker 1: is what she said to me. I was like, okay, Cardis,
Speaker 1: you know her piece is done. You know it's time
Speaker 1: for us to talk about your piece, and you know,
Speaker 1: start working on that. She says, oh, but where's the
Speaker 1: rest of the book. I said, well, I'm still working
Speaker 1: on She said, when you finish, hi at me because
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna put nothing on nothing that I don't
Speaker 1: know about Zak. You just want to see the whole package.
Speaker 1: So I had to send it the book and then
Speaker 1: she said, oh, and I need some time to read it.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, cool. So when it was time
Speaker 1: to record the audio version, I wasn't getting trapped and
Speaker 1: going back to them to ask them again do their
Speaker 1: things so that one KI need to listen to the US.
Speaker 1: I got something for y'all. The young guns will read
Speaker 1: your parts in the book. They were ready, they were excited.
Speaker 1: They're both too amazing activists, you know Mary pat obviously
Speaker 1: and new paul Um and they were and I put
Speaker 1: them in the in the places that they belong because
Speaker 1: New Paul she is the Cardi B Strong actress with
Speaker 1: the Angela Davis. And then Mary pat hides her Cardi B.
Speaker 1: What we know she has it, and she she leans
Speaker 1: towards Dr Davis. So they are in their parts. And
Speaker 1: then you have your piece, which is great. Linda tells
Speaker 1: the story of the Women's March for me because you know,
Speaker 1: I still struggle with being able to describe all of that.
Speaker 1: And then um, you know Angelo is and there doing
Speaker 1: what he does, talking about policy and talking about our
Speaker 1: way forward. And Angelo, as y'all know, is Lynda first
Speaker 1: of all, is Linda's a sort of Palestines co founder.
Speaker 1: She's actually gonna be joining, that's right. We gotten. And
Speaker 1: then Angelo is Attorney Angelo Pintel. They are We are
Speaker 1: the four co chairs of the four co founders, coaches,
Speaker 1: co founders of Until Freedom. And everybody has a little
Speaker 1: role in this book. So the book is not a me,
Speaker 1: it's not I, it's a weed. It's to us, it's
Speaker 1: for us, about us, and it's about how we move
Speaker 1: forward together. That's right, man. So stay tuned. We have guests,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have people calling in from everywhere. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have our co founders here with us. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be a dope show. It's not like you know, the god,
Speaker 1: the god another year around on the earth. You know,
Speaker 1: thank God for making it head man. So I'm blessed.
Speaker 1: We just went through a pandemic and a panademic. What's that?
Speaker 1: A plandemic? A pandemic, a panademic? They said, well whatever, um,
Speaker 1: people die and this really and we made it here,
Speaker 1: and I made it here another year. So I am
Speaker 1: blessed in holly favor. What's that nothing your granddad? You boys? Look,
Speaker 1: these these young boys could never That's probably true. Ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say. You know, it's your birthday. Drink water and
Speaker 1: mind your business, man, drink water and mind your business.
Speaker 1: I didn't mind my business a few days ago, and
Speaker 1: I got myself in a whole big mester. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how it happened to me going on somebody's page,
Speaker 1: writing comments, and then I was in big trouble. Us
Speaker 1: to see, when you mind your business, you won't have
Speaker 1: these problems. I don't go on people page and just right, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know what I happened to
Speaker 1: see something that I thought was great. Is my friend
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. It was not a big deal,
Speaker 1: and I didn't really read it because that's my friends,
Speaker 1: so I must speak to you tomorrow. But I see
Speaker 1: you and you pretty, so I liked it. And I
Speaker 1: see you and you're happy, so I liked it. And
Speaker 1: then I found out there was It was a whole thing,
Speaker 1: the whole situation. You know, I'm trying to stay out
Speaker 1: of situations. But listen, stay tuned. State of Emergency out now,
Speaker 1: Street Politicians number one podcast, State of Emergency, number one book. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: thought of the debt. State of Emergency makes me reflect.
Speaker 1: And you know another thing that you have to do
Speaker 1: when you write a book. You wrote a book, so
Speaker 1: you know about these things. Um, you have to read
Speaker 1: it a thousand times because remember what you said, and
Speaker 1: and and and not just remember what you said, because obviously,
Speaker 1: if you put a mic in front of my face,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about the exact same things that's in this book,
Speaker 1: because that's my life. That's what I talked about every
Speaker 1: single day. But when you write a book, you have
Speaker 1: to and your right people want to talk about specific
Speaker 1: quotes and things you said. And this and that this
Speaker 1: young man Philip Paris, he was the one who sat
Speaker 1: with me and really worked through line by line everything
Speaker 1: I thought. He said, mm hmm, yeah, that's true. But
Speaker 1: there's this other part of the history that you need
Speaker 1: to focus on. So I was educating myself trying to
Speaker 1: educate the people all at the same time. And so
Speaker 1: as I'm reading it every day, I'm like, Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been through all of this and we're still going through it.
Speaker 1: We're still going through and they've shaped everything that we've
Speaker 1: We don't pass laws now, we're trying to pass more
Speaker 1: laws and and and hopefully the things that we're working
Speaker 1: on now will reshape um, you know, or I don't
Speaker 1: know if it will reshape, because you know, the George
Speaker 1: Floyd Justice and Policing Act has some really good components,
Speaker 1: I think the most important pieces to forty two. Remember,
Speaker 1: we just had a conversation with some brilliant minds. So
Speaker 1: Ben Crump is to police accountability, Monique Presley, these two
Speaker 1: attorneys Tesla and Figaro, just know we're sitting having a
Speaker 1: real deep conversation about what's in the bill. Because the
Speaker 1: qualified immunity piece, as it um, was falling apart and
Speaker 1: all the issues that we saw happening there. We started
Speaker 1: to look at the bill and try to figure out
Speaker 1: what are some of the other things that we need
Speaker 1: to protect, and they raised that to forty two was
Speaker 1: a very important component. That I knew it was there
Speaker 1: because I always um was interested in the idea that
Speaker 1: it would change the threshold, lower the threshold so that
Speaker 1: now you don't have to be at uh, it doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be intentional that the police officer intended that
Speaker 1: he came outside that day. It was like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to kill me a nigger, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That he doesn't have to have that mentality, but still
Speaker 1: if he is reckless, then that can get him charge.
Speaker 1: Before you had to prove that I'm gonna go kill
Speaker 1: me one concept, you know what I'm saying that that
Speaker 1: was very difficult. It's almost impossible when you give somebody
Speaker 1: the title that they protected and servant exactly, so they
Speaker 1: automatically get the benefit of the death exactly and they say,
Speaker 1: you know, I was afraid for my life. That the
Speaker 1: that's it so and that's that's that's subjective right. Each
Speaker 1: person has the right to say that you can't tell
Speaker 1: me that I didn't feel fear, So you know now
Speaker 1: that it's reckless. Like even if you felt fear, you
Speaker 1: have this training one to you're not supposed to draw
Speaker 1: your gun. You're not supposed to do this. You're not
Speaker 1: supposed to do that, And therefore that threshold will allow
Speaker 1: for criminality, for there to be charges. And so I
Speaker 1: was like, you know that that's an actual good part.
Speaker 1: I'm still qualified immunity one hundred thousand percent because I
Speaker 1: still believe that police officers should be responsible personally for
Speaker 1: violating other human beings. It's a major deterrent. I think,
Speaker 1: like people say all the time, this system and white
Speaker 1: supremacy itself is not affected unless there is loss of
Speaker 1: life or there's lots of money, and we're not We're
Speaker 1: not trying to hurt anybody. So when people accountable and
Speaker 1: they have to pay their money, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, they're gonna say, you know what, whoa we
Speaker 1: gotta do something different when it was coming out their
Speaker 1: own pockets and they still saying, you know, with my pension,
Speaker 1: I can't feed my kids. I'm gonna think before I
Speaker 1: just shoot, and you know, I'm gonna make real solid
Speaker 1: decisions because I understand that when I do this is
Speaker 1: going to affect my life, you know, So I think
Speaker 1: to forty two and qualified immunity go hand in hand,
Speaker 1: and we want both of them so they know we're
Speaker 1: trying to take no Wooden Nickels roum. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: so you know that. Yeah, that's exactly two forty That
Speaker 1: was my position that two forty two and qualified immunity
Speaker 1: will work hand in hand because if you can lower
Speaker 1: the threshold and get them charged criminally, then you should
Speaker 1: be able to also sue them civilly. And you know,
Speaker 1: you're never gonna get these people to do everything you want.
Speaker 1: That's just not where we are as a society. But
Speaker 1: you do have to understand and be sensitive to people
Speaker 1: who are just tired of us constantly having to give, give, give, give, give,
Speaker 1: having to um, you know, always be compromising and they
Speaker 1: don't have to compromise, but we have to compromise, and
Speaker 1: that for me is really really difficult. So I was
Speaker 1: just you know, reading and studying and going through material
Speaker 1: and you know, also just working and thinking in the
Speaker 1: back of my mind, what is it going to take
Speaker 1: to really get what it is that we know we deserve.
Speaker 1: We have a few days before this bill is supposed
Speaker 1: to be past the George Floyd Justice and Police and Act.
Speaker 1: That's good, but it's still not what we really need.
Speaker 1: We really need to be leaning more towards the Breath Act,
Speaker 1: which is legislation that movement for black lives as well
Speaker 1: as Corey Bush, Congresswoman Corey Bush, who I love, she's
Speaker 1: one of the co sponsors. This is legislation that would
Speaker 1: be more radical. I believe in radical transformation, and I
Speaker 1: like and I my politics. Our politics are more aligned
Speaker 1: with the Breath Act, and that's what would like to
Speaker 1: see happen. But it's huge, and so it's incremental. You
Speaker 1: gotta move a little piece and a little piece, and
Speaker 1: qualified immunity is a part of it, so you know,
Speaker 1: to have that as a part of this legislation would
Speaker 1: be really important in a step towards where it is
Speaker 1: that we're trying to go and that whole You know,
Speaker 1: there's so much that's happening to try to prevent real progress,
Speaker 1: and it just makes you wonder, like what will it
Speaker 1: ever take. It's gonna it's gonna take a joint effort
Speaker 1: on all fronts. You know, they're gonna be people like
Speaker 1: us who are going to demand everything right right, and
Speaker 1: then there's gonna be some people that said we're getting
Speaker 1: a little bit. It's got to be people like us
Speaker 1: that always demand everything. You know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 1: when you when you're going if you've got to manage you,
Speaker 1: you've got somebody, and you in a business, you want
Speaker 1: your manager to go in there and say, look, my
Speaker 1: client deserves all of that, all the things. Now, if
Speaker 1: the client decides, you know, we're gonna negotiate for a
Speaker 1: little less or whatever. But we need people like us
Speaker 1: that's always gonna demand that we get all the things
Speaker 1: that we necessarily deserve. So we're going to push the
Speaker 1: envelope every time, every time. It's no comfortability right now
Speaker 1: when you're governing the United States of America, when you
Speaker 1: govern everybody, when you have the lives and livelihoods and
Speaker 1: you know, everything of people in this country in your hand,
Speaker 1: and they're saying that they want some things, even if
Speaker 1: even if you think it's outlandish to you, if the
Speaker 1: people say that's what they want, then they're gonna fight
Speaker 1: for it. And we are going to be those people
Speaker 1: that's gonna always push the envelope. We're not gonna be quiet.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You can look like us, you can sound
Speaker 1: like us, and we're gonna help you. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: certain things, but when you're not right, we're gonna call
Speaker 1: you out. We're gonna stand up, We're gonna protest you,
Speaker 1: We're gonna fight against you. We're gonna do all the
Speaker 1: things necessary to make sure that the people that people
Speaker 1: are properly represented getting treated equally and getting everything they
Speaker 1: deserve every time until freedom is gonna do that. Every time.
Speaker 1: We gotta they far, they're far to one side, we
Speaker 1: got to be far to the other. Son. We're gonna
Speaker 1: lose friends. People are gonna be mad at us. We're
Speaker 1: gonna call out the friends. We want to say. Hey,
Speaker 1: Clyde burn, I don't know what you said, Representative, this
Speaker 1: is the elder who we definitely love and respect, but
Speaker 1: you should not have said that this can that you
Speaker 1: don't care about qualifier. He didn't say that, he said,
Speaker 1: he didn't say he's willing to do it without He
Speaker 1: said later, because no, I mean, it's still wrong, but
Speaker 1: just make sure we quote people properly on street policy
Speaker 1: said I can do it out, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: I don't want to basically die on the hill. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he said die, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to die on the hill. Off the quotation said, I'm
Speaker 1: not opposed to doing the deal without Okay, that's fine,
Speaker 1: so but that's but he said, we can go and
Speaker 1: do this later. Now here's the problem. Well, you negotiate.
Speaker 1: It's not about it's not that there's no later, but
Speaker 1: but the other people, I mean, you think they don't
Speaker 1: want qualified immunities, So you think they're going to end
Speaker 1: qualified immunity at another time by itself, that's the only time.
Speaker 1: The thing about it, which we've said, you know over
Speaker 1: and over again, is that Representative Clyde burn In the
Speaker 1: in the House, they had already done their job. They
Speaker 1: passed it already the Senate. So there's no reason for
Speaker 1: you to even talk like, don't say anything, because you
Speaker 1: already did your job. You sent the signal that this
Speaker 1: is what we want. And now let it fall back
Speaker 1: on the Republicans and the Democrats that don't don't align properly,
Speaker 1: like Joe Manchin and others who don't align properly without
Speaker 1: what it is that you know we're fighting for. Let
Speaker 1: it fall back on them, so we can see clear targets.
Speaker 1: But when you, as a person supposed to be with us,
Speaker 1: step in the way, now we got to deal with
Speaker 1: you two. That's that should. Yeah, you don't really celebrate anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm happy to be alive. It's
Speaker 1: not your thingly celebration. I mean, listen, I believe that
Speaker 1: I've been here long enough. You're just happy to be
Speaker 1: alive to look at this guy that is coming to say,
Speaker 1: happy birthday to you. Go the god we got to
Speaker 1: guard to the house. Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday
Speaker 1: my brother, my son, Happy birthday to you. Wow. You
Speaker 1: know we so we're so happy to have you to
Speaker 1: join us to celebrate Mice over here. You've been knowing
Speaker 1: him a long long time since I was a baby.
Speaker 1: It's going along years. You know. Used to be ditty,
Speaker 1: used to be puff. But you when you when you
Speaker 1: moved to brother. Love is a sir, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you, sir, love man like I just you know,
Speaker 1: just watching you, just seeing you from early man, I
Speaker 1: remember using the Bahamas recording albums and just being in
Speaker 1: there and me and you're debating and all getting over music.
Speaker 1: And telling me to do this song. Me just sitting there.
Speaker 1: Just there's so much history, man, just watching the mogul
Speaker 1: you become, you know, just the face of the culture
Speaker 1: and how you just transcended and continue to grow. Man.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say I appreciate you, and
Speaker 1: thanks for coming to celebrate me. Man, it's just incredible. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, just I wouldn't even say evolution because you
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, before you know, um, um,
Speaker 1: you know when you got locked up, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: but you know before that, you was you was like
Speaker 1: your mind was just always so deep, you know, and
Speaker 1: and always so right there. And then to see you
Speaker 1: come back and when you came out and he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm I'm out here for it for
Speaker 1: the people right now. And I'm like, if we're gonna
Speaker 1: see how long it's gonna lie and you didn't stop.
Speaker 1: I saw you in front of the Capital Building. I literally,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like shed a tear because
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, look look, look look at what's possible,
Speaker 1: or look at this, you know, look at this king
Speaker 1: sticking to his word and really just you know, you know,
Speaker 1: devoting his life to what's going on and really being
Speaker 1: able to reach your kids and everything, and so I'm
Speaker 1: just so proud of you. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody know I rocked with Tamika. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you go, those are my life two
Speaker 1: favorite people and and and to the two of the
Speaker 1: strongest soldiers on the front line. And with what y'all
Speaker 1: did for Brianna Taylor and where y'all got, you know,
Speaker 1: put to keep the pressure on them. And you know,
Speaker 1: I just commend you all. Y'all are y'are definitely legends.
Speaker 1: And it's your birthday and I'm just proud of you, man.
Speaker 1: I'm just proud you. And I want to just check
Speaker 1: in man and send everybody love that's listening and congratulate
Speaker 1: y'all and Charlemagne or everything that's going on. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to be on your show. Ye get you up here, man,
Speaker 1: But I want to say thank you. But we definitely
Speaker 1: got to set a break the Queen on her book. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't want to take it over my birthday, but
Speaker 1: this book right here is a work of art, man,
Speaker 1: So I want to celebrate her and give her some
Speaker 1: congratulations to thanks pup. We appreciate. I'm still you still
Speaker 1: Puff to me, I'm still all the way back at Puff.
Speaker 1: You know, I started with you a long, long, long
Speaker 1: long time ago, and you've been so super duper supportive
Speaker 1: of us and our work. Um. State of Emergency is
Speaker 1: our book, you know you first day when it was released,
Speaker 1: I was calling you like, look Puff, look, you know,
Speaker 1: look at my book. I did, and you told me
Speaker 1: I could. And your encouragement, your love has kept us going.
Speaker 1: So thank you. We got a lot of work to
Speaker 1: do together, and I'm down. I appreciate y'all. Y'all be
Speaker 1: good and might have a beautiful night. Love, Thank you, King,
Speaker 1: sir Love. That's how it was, man, It missed a surpriser,
Speaker 1: but I heard you in there. I said, what's you
Speaker 1: doing here? I said, what is doing me? They know
Speaker 1: what kind of surprised? He sounds checking me like I
Speaker 1: think I was saying one, two and two? And then
Speaker 1: I seen you. I'm like, what is Joe doing here?
Speaker 1: And I heard you say it's surprised, surprise, Happy birthday.
Speaker 1: We love you. We proud of you more than anything.
Speaker 1: You found your voice, you found your purpose in life,
Speaker 1: and it's to help people and bring people together and
Speaker 1: fight for the cause. And I love that about you,
Speaker 1: and that's why I stand beside you. Well, I want
Speaker 1: to say thank you man. Just hearing you, just seeing you, man,
Speaker 1: just watching you, always being a fan. That's the way
Speaker 1: that you represent the culture, the way you represented the Bronx,
Speaker 1: the way that you just evolved from being the street dude,
Speaker 1: you know, and then seeing you just grow into this
Speaker 1: music mobile and just a businessman and somebody who just
Speaker 1: represents the community. And to see that you you respect
Speaker 1: what it is that I do is something that I
Speaker 1: just want to say, thank you, man, because I respect
Speaker 1: you the same way man. Like I said, I appreciate it, man,
Speaker 1: Thank you. I want you to smell your flowers to day,
Speaker 1: uh and thank you for what you're doing for the community.
Speaker 1: Because we need strong leaders like you who look from
Speaker 1: a lens like you, who come from where you come
Speaker 1: from and know the pain of the people, in the
Speaker 1: passion of the people. And that's what I respect bosts
Speaker 1: about you. Also, you're nice as hell with the lyrics
Speaker 1: down for hip sleep on that, don't sleep on that.
Speaker 1: You know you got some bars. Legendary recipe. Our brother
Speaker 1: Fred to God, He's like you know, he's with us
Speaker 1: every time we talk to each other. Friend is in
Speaker 1: the air. So God bless you man. Happy Peo birthday. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's good to see you, Joe. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for making this a special day for our brother. We
Speaker 1: just wanted to encourage him and just so glad that
Speaker 1: you know when we reached out to you, you were
Speaker 1: quickly like, just send me the link, I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1: So thank you so very much, Joe. We know you're
Speaker 1: busy today, but we appreciate the and support. Thank you
Speaker 1: for real. Man, makes me feel good. We got a
Speaker 1: lot more work, Yes, we got a lot more work
Speaker 1: to do. Yes, that was so dope. Man, My brother's man.
Speaker 1: Two people that um I came into this industry just
Speaker 1: respecting man. Joe is from the Bronx, like Fat Joe,
Speaker 1: Fat Joe means to the Bronx. Is just different man.
Speaker 1: He's always been somebody who's paved the way. Came from
Speaker 1: the projects, literally the projects. I know dudes that know
Speaker 1: him from the street, street, street, and then watching him
Speaker 1: evolved into what he has become, you know, and just
Speaker 1: seeing who he is and just the respect that I
Speaker 1: have for him, So for him to come up here
Speaker 1: and show me that love. And then puff Man. Puff
Speaker 1: was one of the first people when I first got
Speaker 1: into the industry, Like I got signed because I was
Speaker 1: at Puff's restaurant and I battled one of his artists, Shine,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then Puff was one
Speaker 1: of the people that I was wanted to sign me.
Speaker 1: You know, Ultimately I ended up going with Deaf Jam
Speaker 1: because Puff just had such a crazy roster over there,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm the man I want to
Speaker 1: be in my own you know what I'm saying. Chris like,
Speaker 1: he was like, it's gonna be violated, It's gonna be you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be the face. So, you know, ultimately went there.
Speaker 1: But puffa somebody that you know, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of history. Like I said, you know, I used to
Speaker 1: be with Mace a lot. So I used to be
Speaker 1: in the studio with Maze and be at different events.
Speaker 1: Me and Puff with debate because you know, he loved
Speaker 1: the debate. He was debating me. When I called him
Speaker 1: to tell him that, I said, listen, I need you
Speaker 1: to do this thing. You know, this is the time
Speaker 1: I'm sending you a link. He's like, it was Charlemagne
Speaker 1: and I actually were on the phone talking to him together,
Speaker 1: telling them that we needed him to be on today
Speaker 1: and he's like, uh huh, okay, I'm gonna do that
Speaker 1: for my son. But what I want to talk to
Speaker 1: this to y'all about is that the economic power and
Speaker 1: this and that, and we we're going back and forth.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, the politics and you know how
Speaker 1: we get around this and that, And we were having
Speaker 1: a big debate eight because that's what he likes, specially
Speaker 1: does man. So I've known him just for so many years. Man,
Speaker 1: So shout out to Puff. I appreciate the love on
Speaker 1: my birthday. Man. Yeah, it's good number one, yes, yea.
Speaker 1: You know, they celebrate me and they celebrate this book, man.
Speaker 1: So it's important. And I think and I think also
Speaker 1: from Joe's perspective, like his is is to the street,
Speaker 1: so he knows about the challenges that we deal with.
Speaker 1: You know, he's really to the streets. I know, Puff,
Speaker 1: no stuff, but Joe is out here the outside people,
Speaker 1: is my man, right, you go to the spot the outside.
Speaker 1: So she was like, I need to encourage my brother
Speaker 1: and let him know that, you know, and that's and
Speaker 1: it's good and I will say that all our friends
Speaker 1: because these are we got friends. We have friends, We
Speaker 1: actually have good friends. Every every show we talk about
Speaker 1: our friends and when when calling people, and they don't
Speaker 1: ask too many questions and it's just like you'll send
Speaker 1: me to link. First of all, that's the one thing
Speaker 1: that the pandemic, unfortunate pandemic, has created an environment where
Speaker 1: people are able to do more stuff. I just said
Speaker 1: earlier that, like the book, the virtual tour that I'm doing,
Speaker 1: if it had not been for Um it being virtual,
Speaker 1: there's no way that I would have all these people
Speaker 1: who've been involved, from Taraji p Henson, Yesai Henson, first night,
Speaker 1: she was the first night of the tour along with Charlemagne.
Speaker 1: You got it with you, that's right, Tiffany hattish Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Eric Dyson is so many amazing Andre
Speaker 1: day Um is a part of the tour. It's so
Speaker 1: many amazing people that are going to be or that
Speaker 1: have been and will be on this tour, including lots
Speaker 1: of street activists and organizes and folks that are just
Speaker 1: from all different walks of life and pastors you know,
Speaker 1: you know me. We always want to put a good
Speaker 1: pot together all because that's what I think it takes right,
Speaker 1: is going to the streets, the sweets, the churches. When
Speaker 1: you call these people and say I need you to
Speaker 1: do something, you don't want to go back and for
Speaker 1: of course, you know your teams can go back and
Speaker 1: forth or details of exactly the time or the this, that,
Speaker 1: but you want the principle to say yes, right if
Speaker 1: that's your people's if that's somebody that's really a friend.
Speaker 1: When people call me and they're like, Yo, can you
Speaker 1: do this? Can you speak at my school? Can you
Speaker 1: do a thing? Can you do? When it's a friend,
Speaker 1: somebody I know I've been with, I claim to be
Speaker 1: a friend. I tell you I support you. I don't
Speaker 1: put them through a whole bunch of drama. It's like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm there, and then figure out the details, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna break in my day. Imagine what Joe looks like.
Speaker 1: He's on his way somewhere and Puff is always busy period,
Speaker 1: and it looks like, you know, both of them stopped
Speaker 1: to take the time. So that's and I appreciate the
Speaker 1: love is definitely appreciated, man and reciprocated. So thanks for
Speaker 1: the love. Yeah. Sure. Shout out to my brother Charlotte
Speaker 1: Maine for the douce saving for my birthday. Man, we're
Speaker 1: pre sate you. This is a pretty bottle. Look I
Speaker 1: got the exclusive do say black, Black Black Duc. You
Speaker 1: know he's all about to you. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: We're doing well and it's your birthday. It's a celebration
Speaker 1: for celebration that do say bottles. This is hitting on
Speaker 1: called ja. We need to do yeah, and we needed.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, O, Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Faily
Speaker 1: meets street politicians, one big happy family. You listen, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to celebrate. It's all happy we are. Now.
Speaker 1: What is it. It's eight days since my book was
Speaker 1: released and it's doing well. I'm very excited. Some chairs
Speaker 1: Number one's number one. We already knew missing it. You know,
Speaker 1: we still need to look at my make it number one.
Speaker 1: What does this look like? Velvet or something exactly relative?
Speaker 1: Happy birthday? Thank you. Let me blow my make a
Speaker 1: wish for pray for all of us. I just wish
Speaker 1: about it got to be about you, mice. This is important.
Speaker 1: It's important. This is a defining moment, right, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: First of all, then it's COVID covid ki. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: not eat that kid. You take it that home, covid kick.
Speaker 1: Your family can eat. Yeah, celebration deuce ship and you
Speaker 1: can watch. Yes, I'm gonna be all right, like I
Speaker 1: always you like, you don't need a drink. I don't
Speaker 1: need a drink already. You already lit without a drink.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I can't drink. That's right up there,
Speaker 1: you could open it. So listen, we got my brother
Speaker 1: and my sister. Yeah, we haven't even told people who
Speaker 1: are listening. Yeah, the listeners got to understand. This is
Speaker 1: the Foesome, this is the Four Musketeers, you know. So
Speaker 1: we got inter Yandy calls us the Avengers. Is like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Super here? We're so here. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I'm a superhero. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been known to save a few people recently.
Speaker 1: Man happens. But yeah, we joined by a brother and sister.
Speaker 1: Attorney Angelo Pinto Esquire, if your aunt, if you're attorney,
Speaker 1: you're not Esquire or your Esquire without all of that, Sotney,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Attorney Angelo Pinto, or you are Angelo Penso
Speaker 1: Esquire recently, so attorney. We got we got my brother
Speaker 1: low in the building, that's all right. And then we
Speaker 1: got my sister, the unapologetic Muslim from Brooklyn, other co founder,
Speaker 1: sister Linda Side sore in the building. She can't take
Speaker 1: no drink and she always happy with us. I love you,
Speaker 1: Thank you, sister is a happy occasions here surprised us.
Speaker 1: I got this beautiful cake, we got this moved. We're
Speaker 1: gonna drink all of this, but I'm taking We got
Speaker 1: some stuff we need to talk about. We celebrating, we
Speaker 1: still celebrating State of Emergency and my birthday, but we
Speaker 1: can't get too drunk because I started slurring and nothing.
Speaker 1: I'll fall asleep in all type of stuff. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna get this all if we're gonna talk and we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a good conversation whatever, number one, number one podcast,
Speaker 1: we'll be right back with you. That's how we are.
Speaker 1: And we are back with my brother and my sister
Speaker 1: as they celebrate with us on our special days, you know,
Speaker 1: my birthday and another milestone and the release of State
Speaker 1: of Emergency, the number one book in the country, in
Speaker 1: the world. Don't say I told my stone say it's
Speaker 1: the number one, because you know what happens. People be like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: then I don't need to buy it because already number one,
Speaker 1: that number one our hearts. And that's what I said.
Speaker 1: It's number one or not. I had a little I
Speaker 1: had some bar there's one, so I said, um, it's
Speaker 1: number one in our hearts, but it needs to be
Speaker 1: number one on the charts. Having yes, let's make it
Speaker 1: number one on the charts. Let's do it number one,
Speaker 1: just like on one. So yeah, So you know, we
Speaker 1: always talk about until freedom on street politicians because we
Speaker 1: just two fourths of until freedom as street politicians, and
Speaker 1: we tell about what we do. We just want to
Speaker 1: y'all to give us a little perspective, tell give the
Speaker 1: people about because maybe they think because we talk black
Speaker 1: lava all the time, maybe they needed or something that
Speaker 1: y'all have to do. And you know, we didn't really
Speaker 1: put together any particular format. We said in here one
Speaker 1: day we should get a couch for street politicians and
Speaker 1: sit and talk the way we talk about issues, because
Speaker 1: that's a argument. A good argument between about issue is
Speaker 1: what is that's good? It's good, it's a good debate,
Speaker 1: healthy debates reality. I mean other than what the people
Speaker 1: want to know is in that book. I mean state
Speaker 1: of emergency. Freedom believes that we're still in a state
Speaker 1: of emergency. It an't matter to us who's the president
Speaker 1: and who's not the president, who's the congress person, who's
Speaker 1: not the congress person. We're still in a state of emergency.
Speaker 1: And just in the last couple of weeks, I mean
Speaker 1: we sat in in funerals of children literally like too many,
Speaker 1: too many, too many people Macaya Brian, I mean watching
Speaker 1: her in that prom dress, beautiful and her nails done,
Speaker 1: like she should be going to prom. That's what she
Speaker 1: should be doing, right, you know, being at the funeral
Speaker 1: of Dante Demetrius right and watching his little baby boy
Speaker 1: walking around that church was devastating. So I feel like
Speaker 1: we're here as until Freedom really just to reinforce the
Speaker 1: narrative that to make has put out in the world,
Speaker 1: like keep your head in the game. There's still work
Speaker 1: to do out here, um, and the people are still
Speaker 1: counting on us. And so what we do is is
Speaker 1: that's our models. You count on us, you need us.
Speaker 1: We're going to be there wherever there's injustice. That's where
Speaker 1: we are. And you know what's interesting. It's kind of surreal.
Speaker 1: But it's like anytime we're about to celebrate, you can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like just when it's like even with the verdict
Speaker 1: and the Derek Show and trial, it was like, yeah, nope,
Speaker 1: not again. So I think even in this moment when
Speaker 1: we're trying to celebrate, it's like so much happening in
Speaker 1: the world. You have Palestine, yeah, you know, all the
Speaker 1: issues around um, the Justice and Policing Act and the
Speaker 1: George Floyd. I mean, it's just challenges and challenges and challenges,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of how we live. That's exactly how
Speaker 1: this work is. It's like you want to celebrate a
Speaker 1: win because you don't often get wins, but you don't
Speaker 1: have a moment too because something else has happening. To
Speaker 1: respond to something tragic, usually it's trying fortunate because you
Speaker 1: have to celebrate, you have to acknowledge that there are
Speaker 1: good things, right. I remember we were just recently on
Speaker 1: a call um with several attorneys. As I was mentioned,
Speaker 1: Attorney Benjamin Crume uh Teslin. It was great, but you
Speaker 1: didn't say much of anything none. But see, this is
Speaker 1: here's my issue, here is my issue, here's my issue.
Speaker 1: My issue is that, yes, some of us absolutely have
Speaker 1: to listen, but there is a perspective that Angelo has
Speaker 1: that I don't necessarily know all the stuff, and that
Speaker 1: perspective should be a part of the conversation. That was
Speaker 1: an incredible conversation between Attorney Benjamin Crump, Attorney Monique Presley,
Speaker 1: and Tesla Off. Tesla is actually an attorney, but you
Speaker 1: need to be so for the purpose of issue of
Speaker 1: Attorney Teslin figure having dialogue, and and of course you know,
Speaker 1: we were in the conversation just talking about what is
Speaker 1: left in the Justice and Policing Act, the George Floyd
Speaker 1: Justice and Policing Act without qualified immunity, understanding the real
Speaker 1: details of qualified immunity. And I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that Teslin continued to raise is that we don't
Speaker 1: we want people to get to come along later when
Speaker 1: you already told them, we already educated folks on qualified
Speaker 1: immunity if it was just for civil cases and it
Speaker 1: was not necessarily going to help deal with some of this,
Speaker 1: and that in the third we should have told the
Speaker 1: people that in the beginning, but instead everybody, everybody, everybody
Speaker 1: leaned on qualified immunity, and we still are. I mean,
Speaker 1: at least the folks on that whole were like qualified
Speaker 1: immunity is and it and it has to happen. But
Speaker 1: they were we were also talking about other perspectives that
Speaker 1: we're being ending to hear from the representative Jim Clyde
Speaker 1: Burns and others of the world. And that was and
Speaker 1: it was a real debate. And you know, one thing
Speaker 1: I recognized from that coal And I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys, because you weren't there, but if y'all share
Speaker 1: the perspective or share my position. While first of all,
Speaker 1: Monique Presley is brilliant. Also we know that you sit
Speaker 1: on TV. She's on Roland Martin shows all the time.
Speaker 1: She's great. Teslin is a bad, Yes, she's not. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're coming from a different space, you could responding to
Speaker 1: the things that our folks are experiencing in a different way.
Speaker 1: So it's just a new energy, right. And while people
Speaker 1: like to come up with all kinds of reasons with
Speaker 1: Ben Chromo, Oh he's country, Oh he's this. If you
Speaker 1: were part of that, I have I have a new
Speaker 1: level of respect for him after sitting through that conversation
Speaker 1: last night and listening to how he was able to
Speaker 1: describe every single part of the Justice and Police and
Speaker 1: Act down to the Supreme Court and the roles of
Speaker 1: each individual and how these things operate, implications of passing
Speaker 1: it on civil suits like that, because I think sometimes
Speaker 1: people just look at a piece of legislation raised the
Speaker 1: age was like that, and they don't realize all the implications.
Speaker 1: You just think it's going to impact one thing, but
Speaker 1: it's really not. It's going to cause a cascade of implications.
Speaker 1: And it's important to know that. And oftentimes there's only
Speaker 1: the experts or the people doing work every day that knows,
Speaker 1: and other folks are just like I get it done
Speaker 1: or don't get it done, and then pulls her boxing
Speaker 1: gloves and slaps of down in the table. Right, So,
Speaker 1: now you're gonna tell me about two forty two, which
Speaker 1: helps to lower the threshold for criminality, which is important.
Speaker 1: But why we didn't talk about that, you know a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and I think all of us agreed
Speaker 1: that we don't need black folks, especially black folks who
Speaker 1: are not a part of the negotiations. Let me say
Speaker 1: this is wrong for us to even say that a
Speaker 1: Jim Clyde Burn or others like him are not part
Speaker 1: of the negotiations. They might not be in the Senate,
Speaker 1: but they are absolutely a part of the negotiations. Jim
Speaker 1: Clyde Burn is the wit. Okay, he's the man. So
Speaker 1: he's the man. I mean, Joe Biden is dead in
Speaker 1: the water without Jim Clyde Burn. Okay, he's dead in
Speaker 1: the water. You're not a Joe fan. Everybody needs to
Speaker 1: know Angelo not a But Jim Clyde Burn is dead
Speaker 1: in the water without a I mean, excuse me, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is dead in the water without Jim Clyde Burn.
Speaker 1: Jim Clyde Burn, and then Kamala Harris black woman, black man,
Speaker 1: flanks him on both sides. They bring him back at
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake I personally, and this is a debate
Speaker 1: between Linda and me, The biggest mistake that I think
Speaker 1: we made as a progressive community was when we knew
Speaker 1: that the world just wasn't gonna accept Bernie. And I
Speaker 1: think that it's wrong because I like Bernie. I see
Speaker 1: you know me and you talk all the time about
Speaker 1: how Bernie had a serious problem with pinpointing and talking
Speaker 1: about black people like he just didn't. That's the one
Speaker 1: thing Joe Biden leaned into he knew, he knew he
Speaker 1: had to and and Bernie he failed there. But when
Speaker 1: we knew that that was happening, the socialism and I'm
Speaker 1: talking to the old ladies tell me everything. So when
Speaker 1: I'm talking to the coral masses, berries and the hazel dudes,
Speaker 1: and they literally start crying like you don't understand, and
Speaker 1: you know he we're gonna They did. They didn't dislike Bernie.
Speaker 1: They were just saying, we're gonna lose if he's the
Speaker 1: candidate because of all these things, right, Elizabeth Warren, because
Speaker 1: of the fact that she's a woman, we're not going
Speaker 1: to respect her. People just that they're just not gonna
Speaker 1: do it. It's it's a woman. The country has not
Speaker 1: moved to the point where they can see that. Even
Speaker 1: though she wasn't Bernie, she she stole Bernie's point, Stollar
Speaker 1: fuel Bernie's point. Everybody did. The whole debate became Bernie's
Speaker 1: talking points right, the image who was it didn't work.
Speaker 1: But then she took his talking points right, and then
Speaker 1: several of them. But then she added a flavor that
Speaker 1: was her own. She understood women, she understood black women.
Speaker 1: She brought black women into the fold. She talked about
Speaker 1: black people very directly. I mean, she was my candidate.
Speaker 1: Also she claimed capitalism, which is you know, we could
Speaker 1: debate it, but it was and so therefore they are people.
Speaker 1: But because we can't as a progressive community, and I'm
Speaker 1: talk about black folks, I'm just some my progressives in general,
Speaker 1: we can't ever come to the table and say, okay,
Speaker 1: we're on the same page, and by the way, we're
Speaker 1: willing to support a woman. We ended up with the
Speaker 1: ball fumbled in my in my opinion, and I'll say
Speaker 1: this and y'all can talk. However, I will not sit
Speaker 1: here and discount the fact that this current administration, because
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna get much from most of them, but
Speaker 1: this current administration at least there's so much fire under
Speaker 1: them that they kind of know, like, we can't really
Speaker 1: play with these black people. If we're gonna try to
Speaker 1: get Kamala Harris elected, they know it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna care about that. I
Speaker 1: think Joe cares about himself, and I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: get his time. And then well the problem is that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is now He's not just the president. He
Speaker 1: now is the head of the party, and the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party does not want to not understand, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: the realities he does. The Democratic Party does not want
Speaker 1: to lose again, not just to the Republicans. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is coming like the Democratic the Democratic car it is failing.
Speaker 1: Even when you look at the win, when you look
Speaker 1: at what happened in Georgia before the election, even when
Speaker 1: you have look at what happened at the election, the
Speaker 1: Democrats didn't win any of their elections. The people who
Speaker 1: wanted to see change won the elections for Democrats, just
Speaker 1: like folks say, Georgia's dot blue is black. That's why
Speaker 1: that happened. So we gotta really I think the Democrats
Speaker 1: often ignore what's really taking place and give themselves too
Speaker 1: much credit. But when you're dealing with a guy like
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, who was really the face of the Republican
Speaker 1: Party and the face who's gonna carry weight and swing
Speaker 1: a big bat in trumple there's no an I say
Speaker 1: this time we need something different. Who could be Trump? Who?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just being honest and I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at the state that we are in now, looking
Speaker 1: at when you see what clad Burn is saying, when
Speaker 1: you see what Kamala Harris is saying, you see the
Speaker 1: pushback a lot of people who who advocated for them saying,
Speaker 1: I can't see myself voting for them again or telling
Speaker 1: people to vote for them again. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: very difficult time. And I think for the next three
Speaker 1: point whatever years we have, I think we have to
Speaker 1: really strategically create what something different looks like, like we
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't put our faith in this administration
Speaker 1: like we can get what we can get. It's just
Speaker 1: like I tell people all the time, and just like
Speaker 1: we understand we were tied together. We gotta move right now.
Speaker 1: We're gonna deal. We gotta even as soon as they
Speaker 1: cut these change. I'm going my way and you're gonna
Speaker 1: go this way, you understand, saying, So the bottom line
Speaker 1: is right now until freedom, everybody needs to be galvanized
Speaker 1: and our voices the people who really want real change,
Speaker 1: not monumental, not incremental like who wants to I mean exactly,
Speaker 1: not incremental change, with real monumental change. We have to
Speaker 1: be creating what do something different looks like, whether it's
Speaker 1: a different party, whether it's just a whole voting block
Speaker 1: of millions of people that say this is and we
Speaker 1: come up with our own plan for what America is
Speaker 1: supposed to look like us. But that's what has to
Speaker 1: be happening right now, because right now people have lost
Speaker 1: all faith. It's people that this was their last time
Speaker 1: and they're just looking like, you know, racism America is not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell the same racist. That's what the people
Speaker 1: wanted to be talked to. Straight, Talk to me, straight,
Speaker 1: tell me what it is like. I don't want to
Speaker 1: play and these people feel like they're being played with
Speaker 1: when you talk about qualified immunity and said, oh, well
Speaker 1: that's not really. But you've been telling me this for
Speaker 1: the last not much. I've been qualified munity, and that's
Speaker 1: what we need to get rid of. I got street
Speaker 1: dudes that I grew up with that never been My
Speaker 1: man Percy, who's one of Fat Joe's friends, he was
Speaker 1: given a class on his Instagram about qualifying. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is what qualified munity. I learned some stuff and
Speaker 1: people say, oh words, they and the actually mice. The
Speaker 1: bottom line here is that credibilities on the line. It is.
Speaker 1: Bottom line is we're gonna stand our ground and we're
Speaker 1: gonna if there's no end qualified immunity, we really got
Speaker 1: to say we're not going to be with it. We
Speaker 1: gotta pressure on them to know that. For the very
Speaker 1: few that are actually with you out there talking about
Speaker 1: George Floyd Justice and Policing Act, we're not going to
Speaker 1: go down that path because to your point, then they're
Speaker 1: never going to believe in our something different once you
Speaker 1: get there. If we don't stand our ground. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be clear. No, no, I understand. But
Speaker 1: if we are supporting the Justice and Policing Act as
Speaker 1: something that has some minor changes that are welcomed, but
Speaker 1: we support a bill where they take out and qualified ability,
Speaker 1: that is That's what I'm saying. We're not going to
Speaker 1: do that. And I think the credibility pieces even more
Speaker 1: than what you said. I think you would be a
Speaker 1: nice just now justice and police and that that's one
Speaker 1: part is bigger than that. Yeah, the credibility part is
Speaker 1: wrapped up in America. Is not racist, it's wrapped up
Speaker 1: in so many different things. What's happening exactly because let
Speaker 1: me tell you, every day that I've been out here
Speaker 1: talking about the book, and I'm trying to be focused
Speaker 1: on my book launch because the world is going to
Speaker 1: always burn down. And I and I and I have
Speaker 1: been yes, absolutely, and I have been so clear, so clear.
Speaker 1: I'm about, you know, my support for the Palestinian people period.
Speaker 1: Like I remember coming back from Palestine. I was fired up,
Speaker 1: and I was saying this and that and this, and
Speaker 1: I was doing interviews, talking and Linda was like, yo,
Speaker 1: she was like, she was like, come over here and
Speaker 1: let me talk to you for a minute. These my people.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the love, but I'm gonna tell you right
Speaker 1: now this context to everything. Get you get your get
Speaker 1: yourself together, because I was gone. I was gone. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe what I saw. I saw with my eyes.
Speaker 1: You can't tell being like when you when you visit
Speaker 1: Palestine and you just see the way in which the
Speaker 1: Palestinians are living, and you see how you know they
Speaker 1: actually be a force other homes. You see it. Just
Speaker 1: listened to the stories of eighty year old men crying
Speaker 1: to you saying, hey, I was here when I lived
Speaker 1: here this one and they took my family from me,
Speaker 1: they killed some of my family. I'm the oldest person
Speaker 1: in my village and I'm the last people. And you
Speaker 1: see them just constantly building on top of four and
Speaker 1: five story houses and they put in buckets hopefully they
Speaker 1: can get rain on. Like when when you when you
Speaker 1: see that as a human being, if you're not saying
Speaker 1: you know this is not right, your moral compass tells
Speaker 1: you it's not about nothing else. It's about my moral
Speaker 1: compass says, I don't care what you name the people.
Speaker 1: I don't care what they look like, where they're from.
Speaker 1: What is happening right here, it's just wrong. And I
Speaker 1: have to say this because people will get on me.
Speaker 1: There's mass chaos in Columbia to people being killed Columbia.
Speaker 1: That's true. So yeah, that's true, stated by the US government.
Speaker 1: And see that's what's important too. There's international challenges that
Speaker 1: are happening around the world connected to how America responds
Speaker 1: or doesn't respond to so many things, and we gotta
Speaker 1: do something about it. That's why for me, the establishment
Speaker 1: never had credibility. And it's I know it's tough for
Speaker 1: people to hear, but for me, it's like now I
Speaker 1: would say, so yeah, I mean, but one thing I
Speaker 1: am and I want to say as my sister that
Speaker 1: we we are with you. It's not. You know, we're
Speaker 1: not gonna back down because I heard have people call
Speaker 1: me like, oh I saw you post something about Palastine.
Speaker 1: Your book is coming out. You know you might have
Speaker 1: some issues with bookstores and this and that. Oh well,
Speaker 1: you know, listen, We've been canceled so many I get
Speaker 1: canceled every week about something I was telling them. I
Speaker 1: minded people's business, got in somebody's comments about something they canceled. Yes,
Speaker 1: I get canceled all the time. But what I believe
Speaker 1: and I believe in, and that's just it. And so
Speaker 1: I know what I see is just wrong. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I am really proud of the courage of
Speaker 1: people who are out here saying people are speaking up
Speaker 1: in a way that makes me feel like we're moving
Speaker 1: somewhere and people are actually died, people are actually It's
Speaker 1: almost like, how could you not talk about I mean,
Speaker 1: a mom woke up with four of her children are dead,
Speaker 1: four siblings are our dead, Like this is what we're
Speaker 1: talking about here, and I think it connects to us
Speaker 1: until freedom and who we are. We're just unapologetic. What
Speaker 1: we believe is what we believe, take it or leave it,
Speaker 1: and that's just who we are. We're not bought and sold.
Speaker 1: You're not going to tell us who to stand up for.
Speaker 1: You're not going to tell us where to go. That's
Speaker 1: just who we are. And and and one of the
Speaker 1: things that's important about what we do is like we're
Speaker 1: funded by the people. So nobody's gonna tell me if
Speaker 1: you say that, I'm gonna pull this money if you
Speaker 1: if you say that, I ain't gonna give you that.
Speaker 1: I'm not funded by people who are going to control
Speaker 1: who we are. And that's that's an important things to me. Nobody, nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody controls us. Like what did he say? He said,
Speaker 1: you can't call up he and get me fight, right,
Speaker 1: I ain't got no you know, we're going to do
Speaker 1: what we do. Not have a white manager. They were
Speaker 1: like calling the church trying to get him fighting. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's like our women TV, which is our partner,
Speaker 1: we are, our visual component is on our Women's TV
Speaker 1: every week and cat trigger out directed who hangs out
Speaker 1: and behind the scenes here there's no white person to
Speaker 1: calls that. She can't have us on here. You gotta
Speaker 1: talk to a black woman, yeah about black people? You
Speaker 1: know why? Because black grandma and South Carolina gave me
Speaker 1: twenty dollars just two hours ago, and another one in Florida,
Speaker 1: and then that's Auntie in Ohio and our cousin in California.
Speaker 1: I mean, we are funded by people, and we want
Speaker 1: to stay funded by the people, and the people and
Speaker 1: the people who don't who are like, oh, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna give you anything. You can you listen to that,
Speaker 1: And that's the main thing for me, right. It's always
Speaker 1: people who never supported you to have an issue with
Speaker 1: what you're doing. People if they're supporting us, I've never
Speaker 1: got somebody saying, you know, I was supporting you. I've
Speaker 1: been funded and I don't really know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, keep doing what you're doing. I love
Speaker 1: what you're doing. It's always people that never support you,
Speaker 1: that want to throw a monkey, want to try to
Speaker 1: cause the centiate man. Listen, we My motto is I
Speaker 1: work for the people, and that's always been my motto.
Speaker 1: My voice is gonna always be unhinged. I'm always say
Speaker 1: what I think, even if it goes against the status quo.
Speaker 1: That's just who I am. So whenever you accuse me
Speaker 1: of any unhinged and we y'all got to try to
Speaker 1: hinge me up sometimes because a little bit, a little
Speaker 1: they try. But at the end of the day, listen,
Speaker 1: if it's not my sisters and my brother telling me, hey,
Speaker 1: calm down a little bit, ain't nobody else gonna stop me.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say whatever I want to. I want to
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Speaker 1: do not want charity. We want people who believe in
Speaker 1: the work that we do to invest in the work
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Speaker 1: feel like you did something for me out of charity.
Speaker 1: And you know, I want you to look and say,
Speaker 1: these people are doing work that I believe in. That
Speaker 1: that that eliminates with people try to say, oh, you
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Speaker 1: I want people to look me in my eyes and say, yo,
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Speaker 1: so it's good to have y'all with us today. Today
Speaker 1: it was exciting. Happy birthday, Mice and Charlotte. Any more,
Speaker 1: happier years, peaceful years. I asked God to me piece
Speaker 1: piece slow, like you know what's funny? Being here today
Speaker 1: is almost surreal because it's like we've come along way, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: And I think it's deep when the more you move forward,
Speaker 1: the more people try to tell you that, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and you just gotta do le new levels, new devil.
Speaker 1: And I say all the time, the one thing you
Speaker 1: don't want to do is run up on people from
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Speaker 1: Thanks shout out to my family for being here until freedom.
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Speaker 1: you and you look and you look like you know
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Speaker 1: you know what, one thing for shore and two things
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Speaker 1: is not gonna always be wrong. Sometimes she will a
Speaker 1: lot more than I will. But we will both and
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