1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: In the least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Matt Williamsons on your twenty four to seven home of 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 2: and it's time for the Fantasy football focus here Matt 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: and little note to the aggregators out there, I call 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: it so when we do this segment on Tuesday, I 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 2: call up one of the aggregator sites because he just 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: gives me a chance to read the fantasy for fantasy stuff, 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: to get all the little nuggets and we can look 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: at them. So I called NBC Sports dot COM's little 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: fantasy site here at their player News. And one of 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: the first things I see on here is that on 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 2: Jalen Warren is that the Steelers announced Jalen Warren as 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: a team starting running back. They did no such thing. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: That's not what happened. Mike Tomlin was asked about announcing 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Jalen Warren with the starters along with Naujia Harris prior 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: to the start of the game, like right. 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: Out of the tunel. 20 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: Now, I might note they did not announce George Pickens 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: as a starter for that game. 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: They all announced eleven human beings. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Well sometimes they'll they'll stretch it a little bit, I know. 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pickens did not. 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Pickens was not announced before the game, but. 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 3: He was also out there for the first snap. 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: He was out there for the first snap of the game. 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: You know who wasn't out there for the first snap 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: of the game. 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: Many people, many. 31 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: People, but Jayalen Moren was not out there for the 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: first move. Was Nagie Harris. Najie Harris is still the 33 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: starting running back, Jalen Morrins. You can call it the 34 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: coast starter, whatever you want to call it. It's an 35 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: aj Dillon. Yeah, Aaron Jones situation, isn't. 36 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 3: The official death charts have Chokes and Jones as co 37 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: starters at right tackle two and yeah, I mean, like, 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: but they really aren't. 39 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: But what they did, what the aggregators did, is that 40 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: they picked up a tweet. That's something because somebody asked 41 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin about not announce announcing Jaalen Morris a start, 42 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: because that was the first time that it had happened. 43 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: Nobody nobody asked him about Pickens not being not and 44 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: so they just ran with this. At the Seers announced 45 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Jayalen Moore and as his team starting running back. 46 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: They did not That's not what the team announced at all. No, yeah, okay. 47 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: These are This is the problem with aggregation. 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: I know, I know. 49 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: It's like it's like the telephone. 50 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: Everything gets watered down. Everything is you know, it's more 51 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: to the people just want you to click on it, right, 52 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: you know, like that boy that's new worthy, let's click 53 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: on that. Well, it didn't really happen. 54 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: Though, it didn't happen, No matters right getting into this week, 55 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: as we already mentioned, a good story. Yeah, uh the 56 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb stuff. According to doctor James Vous, who apparently 57 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: did the surgery, estimated recovery time when this would have 58 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: him back in time to play in the twenty twenty 59 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: four season. But it doesn't say when in the twenty 60 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: twenty four season. 61 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: No, it doesn't say for opening day or training camp, 62 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: for Minny camp or any that kind of stuff. Yeah, 63 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for him, but man, I I would imagine 64 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: they're going to have to proceed as if he's not 65 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: part of the team. Yeah, season stuff. 66 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: Unfortunately for them, he counts a big chunk on the. 67 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: Salary, all right. 68 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: Odell Beckham with a knee did not practice on Tuesday. 69 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: This was noteworthy because they play Thursday. 70 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it might not show in the box score, 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: but Bateman's ahead of him on the pecking order. I mean, 72 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: Beckham was out there a fair amount. That he's playing more, 73 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: but Bateman's more involved with route share, target share, all 74 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: that stuff, and they're both fighting for the third spot. 75 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. We haven't talked about this, and it's not necessarily 76 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: fantasy news, but it kind of is. Denzel Perryman suspended 77 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: three games for forcibly forcibly for forcible contact with his 78 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: helmet against an opponent. It was the second time this year, 79 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: sixth time in his career quick according to the But 80 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: he's played eight years in the league. 81 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been around a while. 82 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not like, oh, he's doing this all 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: the time, once a year or less. 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: I don't know that I like this in terms of 85 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 3: a trend for the league. 86 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: Because the afore mentioned Jalen Warren, who we just talked about, 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: he's been fined twice this year for quote unquote using 88 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: his own Yeah. I don't want to see I don't 89 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: want to see guys get suspended, suspended three games without pay. 90 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, that would be a blow. I mean, not 91 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: to mention Warren's not making that kind of money as 92 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 3: a human being, just that kind of. 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 2: Stuff like you can appeal these things and you can, 94 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: you know. 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't like that trend at all the 96 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: more I think about it. I mean, it's because a 97 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: lot of it's just playing football. Yeah, I mean, I 98 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: know they're trying to change the tunes, but these aren't 99 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: even like egregious penalties. Yeah, that's not a great trend. 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 3: Hopefully it's nipped in the bud. Yeah. 101 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: Now, Perryman, he hasn't played a lot this year for 102 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: the for the Texans. He's only has four tackles in 103 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: half a sack in twenty twenty three. 104 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: They want the ranger Fred Warner types. He's more of 105 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: a thumper, yeah, you know, but he's a leader. 106 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: The next three games, if they haven't linebacker go down it. 107 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, it must irrelevant. But I mean if it starts 108 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: happening to Warren and others around the league, it's going 109 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: to be a big problem. We mentioned it. 110 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey getting fired in Buffalo is their offensive coordinator. 111 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: Joe Brady takes over as the coordinator. 112 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: I know the name but I don't really remember his history. 113 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: He was fired as Carolina's offensive coordinator midway through the 114 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two season. 115 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit ago. 116 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means for them, you know, 117 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: because here's what happens when you when you change coordinators 118 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: in mid season. You're not throwing the playbook out. 119 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: Oh no, You're just changing play sequencing and some preps. 120 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: All you're doing to saying we want somebody else calling 121 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: the place instead of that guy. 122 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which makes no sense to me. I mean again, 123 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: I'm not in those walls. Maybe there's a personality conflict 124 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: between him and McDermott, or him and Allen or whoever. 125 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: But his offense is the third best in the league, 126 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: and they are putting up points, they're putting up yardage. 127 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: I don't think the interceptions are on the offensive coordinator 128 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: by any means. I'm almost certain putting twelve guys on 129 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: the field to block a kick is not on the 130 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator or Matt Mlano getting hurt is on the 131 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: offfensive coordinator. It just feels like I'm making this up. 132 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 3: But it's an educated guest that the owners like this 133 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 3: year's a disaster. Somebody's heads. Yeah, you need to do 134 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: something here, and it's locking baby Dartot. It's not gonna 135 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: be Allen talking to the defensive coordinator, you know, so 136 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: poor guy. I mean, I've had a feel for Dorsey. Yeah, 137 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be unemployed long. 138 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: Zay Jones arrested Monday night on domestic battery charges. 139 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw just the headline. 140 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: Now, there won't be anything forthcoming quickly on that because 141 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: it's usually the league weights for the criminal stuff to 142 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: take place. But at some point A Jones is probably 143 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: gonna get suspended. 144 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: There's gonna be some sort of consequences unless he's totally 145 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: let off. He didn't play this past week. I don't think. 146 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: I think he's still recovering from injury, still coming back 147 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: to but he was highly questionable, like they thought there's 148 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 3: a good chance you would. Yeah, so keep an eye 149 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 3: on that because their defense was a mess. 150 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 151 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 152 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: Mac Jones Patriots A coach Bill Belichick would not confirm 153 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: that Mac Jones is the team's number one quarterback heading 154 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: into Week eleven, skitting to the point now they may 155 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: not have a quarterback. It's an interesting way to go 156 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: about football. The last two years for the Patriots because 157 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: last year they didn't have an offensive coordinator. Yeah, this 158 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: year they bring in an offensive coordinator. Now they don't 159 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: have a quarterback. It's an interesting I don't know. 160 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: If right who all we blame in here. I mean, 161 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: maybe none of the above are qualified. Maybe Max just bad. 162 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: Zappi was never great, but I'm pretty sure he's bad. 163 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: What's interesting to me is they know they're not winning 164 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: anything at this point. As it stands, right now, they 165 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: have the third or they have the fourth pick in 166 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: the draft. Arizona's ahead of them. Who I think will 167 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: win games? The Giants in Carolina are ahead of them. 168 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: Bearsuth Carolina pick. I don't think we'll win games. So 169 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: I think the Patriots will pick somewhere in the top five, 170 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: probably not one or two. So I don't think they 171 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: think they have a quarterback on their roster. 172 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: You. 173 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: I mean, but Tod, do you go to the veterans 174 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: on the team and just keep trotting Mac Jones out there? 175 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: I mean, like the Giants can't put the veto out 176 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: there again? I mean, how do you look at the 177 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: how do you look at the Cam Haywards in your 178 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: locker room and put those guys at least do something different. 179 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at this week's top waiver wire pickups, since 180 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: this is Tuesday, the week group, Yeah, it really is. 181 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: I can't believe this, but according to this, Matthew Stafford's 182 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: available in thirty point two. 183 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: He was on a bye last week and he was 184 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: just so great the year before the week before that. 185 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: So maybe he got cut. 186 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: If he if he got cut, pick him up. 187 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've already said they expect him to start this week. 188 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Devin Singletary owned in fifty point eight leagues, Yeah, 189 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: got to be. 190 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: Some of those are probably eighteen leagues. 191 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: But I've seen some stuff where there's some talk from 192 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator that he's the better fit for what 193 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 2: they want to do. 194 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: That would add up because Pearce just doesn't seem to 195 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: Maybe they don't want a banger. 196 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, he's a fast pay. Singletary's more of a 197 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: one cut runner and you know. 198 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: Better receiver. I don't love either one of them, but hey, 199 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 3: you can't innore the production. 200 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: Keaton Mitchell twenty three point three percent of the league's 201 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: not going to get a high, high volume. 202 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: No one thing about that was kind of interesting? Is 203 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: he got a fair for him. He got a lot 204 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: of volume in the first half, and then they eased 205 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: him up a little bit more and used Hill when 206 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: they had a lead. But he was also on the 207 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: injury report, so maybe they were taking it easy on him. 208 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: I tend to think he's better than Hill, and if 209 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: he can pass Hill on the depth chart, he's gonna 210 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: be pretty valuable for fantasy. 211 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: I just don't know if they're going to trust that 212 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty pound guys said, if you looked 213 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: at the plays that they where they got in the ball, 214 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot of misdirection stuff. Oh yeah, they tried it, 215 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: and they did it three times in the game. Once 216 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: was a throwback to the opposie field he had. You know, 217 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: they set it up nicely. They ran up a play 218 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: where they had the whole back wall block the left 219 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: side went out and blocked the first time, and then 220 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: they did it again and Lamar roll to his right 221 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: and threw back to the to the left. And then 222 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: later they tried like a little end around with him. Yeah, 223 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 2: and that got blown back. I mean he's in take 224 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: big hits. Yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm just I stashed him 225 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: in one league sitting on the bench and we'll see. 226 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: But if he can get more touches than he'll he'll 227 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: be valuable. Ty Chandler rostered in two point eight percent 228 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: of fantasy leagues. I would imagine he's the hot pick 229 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: up this week. 230 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: We think, I mean Madison has a Madison's are great 231 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 3: Madison has. 232 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: They can't run the football, no. 233 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: But I think he's a starter on a good offense 234 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: when there's four teams on buy, so he has value 235 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: at least for this week. 236 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: They're leading touchdown scorer on the ground this year. You 237 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: know who it is? No, Josh Dobbs. Wow, he leaves 238 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: them in rushing touchdowns. Okay, he's played a game and 239 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, yeah. 240 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: I like Chandler as a player though, and Akers isn't 241 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: in the mix for people he's done. Yeah, so the worst, 242 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: he's a handcuff. But he could be a starter this week. 243 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: Ezekiel Elliott has owned in thirty six point one percent 244 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: of the leagues. 245 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: If you just isolate him, he doesn't look bad. He 246 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: doesn't look shot. He's just a number two back on 247 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: a terrible offense, which. 248 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: And sometimes it looks doesn't even look like he's the 249 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: number two. 250 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 3: They like him. 251 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just they keep running them out there. 252 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: I'd have a hard time starting them though. 253 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Brandon Cook's forty nine point one percent of the leagues 254 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: pick them up. 255 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: I mean, great passing offense, he's number two receiver. 256 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had one hundred and sixty five receiving yards 257 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: through his first seven games. This year. He had one 258 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: hundred and seventy three on Sunday. 259 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 3: I don't know why he was so slow to begin with. 260 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: I don't get it. 261 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: Looks fine. Yeah, I don't get quite get that. 262 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: You believe it in Noah Brown. Now he's still only 263 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: owned in twenty seven percent of leagues. 264 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 3: Sort of. He made a lot of plays. 265 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: They can't ignore the fact that when he's right, he's 266 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: making plays. 267 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: I do believe when Nico comes back, Nico will have 268 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: his job because Brown was asked to be That's fine. 269 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: Brown could be Robert Woods for me. That's yeah, you know, 270 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: I mean it's a good offense. They're gonna throw a lot. 271 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: He kept making plays. They weren't all you know, beautiful 272 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: throws him making plays, Yeah, yeah, and stuff with it. 273 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: So I think you got to trot all three of 274 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 3: those receivers out Romeo Dobbs. 275 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: I know you hate him, but thirty nine point seven 276 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: percent ownership. 277 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: They throwed him in the end zone too. 278 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, the Mario Douglas is still just owning 279 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: twenty seven point two percent of leaks. You don't even 280 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: know who the quarterback is there. 281 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: And it makes it tough, it does. And here's a 282 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: real far down the line. Note, but the Patriots are also 283 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: on a bye, but Juju played every snap this past 284 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 3: week for the first time, So it looks like it's 285 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 3: gonna be those two as the receivers. It's just the 286 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: same Zeke Elliott conversation we had though. I mean, yeah, 287 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: that many first downs and touchdowns will go around there. 288 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: Rashid Shahed they're on buy two one. They're on a bye, 289 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: but Michael Thomas suffered a serious knee injury. And last 290 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: year when. 291 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 3: Shaheed's like the most efficient receiver in. 292 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: The league, he was really good down the stretch lines, 293 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: really good. 294 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: And he's had flashes this year. Yeah, I'd much rather 295 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: have Winston as his quarterback in the car because he's 296 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: a big play. 297 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 2: Type, but he's a dart he's kind of Oh, I. 298 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: Would pick him up but it's a dart throw. It 299 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: is it is, it's a dart throw. 300 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: It's not somebody you want to start every week. Yeah, yeah, okay, 301 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: Trenton Irwin Zone in four point three percent of the leagues. 302 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: I know, Place Thursday, Place Thursday. 303 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: T Higgins probably not going to play. He's going to 304 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: be out there. 305 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 3: He will, and he got some targets, got a touchdown, 306 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: he says, A move the needle for me. 307 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: I hear you. 308 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would hope I could find somebody better on Sunday. 309 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: At this point, we're getting pretty dry. 310 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's four teams on by. 311 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: The tight ends are pretty much the same tight ends 312 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: that we talk about every week. It's Trey McBride, it's 313 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: Luke Musgrave, it's Michael Mayer. Yeah, okay, you know all 314 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: about them. 315 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 3: McBride should not be out there. 316 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: Looking at the streaming defenses. This week schedule, we've got 317 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: four teams on a bye in week eleven, Saints, Patriots, Atlanta, Indianapolis, 318 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: New England, New Orleans. Not quite the murderers road that 319 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: we had last. 320 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: Week, all right, but still four teams, a lot with 321 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: injuries and stuf. 322 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: Interesting games though. This week he got Cincinnati at Baltimore. 323 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: Yes on both these or yes on or no on 324 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: both these? Lamar, I don't think I'm playing the Bengals. D. 325 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: Lamar has not been the fantasy star. Like he's not 326 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: throwing they don't throw any touchdown passes. 327 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: No, he's don't putting on fancy numbers. I don't I 328 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: don't think Henderson's player, Hubbard's playing. I don't love I 329 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: was playing the Bank of Baltimore. D. I don't think 330 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: I'm playing Bengals. LaMarcus against division teams is no. I 331 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 3: know teams are. 332 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: Playing more often. 333 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: These AFC North games could be low scoring slugfest. 334 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that leads us to Pittsburgh at Cleveland. I 335 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: think you're playing both, playing both? Yeah, yeah, playing both. 336 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: We saw turnovers, We've seen a lot of We've seen 337 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: a lot of defensive touchdowns in these AFC North games. Yeah, 338 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: you're playing both. 339 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: Chicago is that? Detroit looks like Fields is going to 340 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: be back this week. 341 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: The Lions are no brainer though, Yeah, you're going to 342 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: start the Lions. Yeah, I mean, I know they have 343 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: a ton of points to the Chargers, but they're back. 344 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: Bears defense is play well, But I don't I. 345 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: Don't watch them at home against Detroit on the road, 346 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: I should say. 347 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: No. 348 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: You got the Chargers at green Bay. 349 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 3: No on the Packers, I don't want to start either one. 350 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: Yes on the Chargers either. 351 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: No, they don't do much. 352 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: No, I don't love that a little bit. Yeah, I 353 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: don't love green Bay's offense. I mean, I guess you 354 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: could do worse, but I don't love it. 355 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: They just I mean, they just give up a ton 356 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: of yards a changers. 357 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: Its bad as past week. 358 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: You got the Raiders at Miami firing up Miami's defense 359 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: this week, I think so coming off by Aidan O'Connell. Yeah, 360 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. No, No on the Raiders. Uh, 361 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: the Giants are at Washington. 362 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: No, and no. I know we're both excited to Dolphins. 363 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: A chance could be back to yeah, who are the 364 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: two there? 365 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: The Giants are at Washington. 366 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: Usually I would say yes, say yes on Washington. 367 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 368 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: I think they're that bad. 369 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 370 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: I think Washington is like a bottom five. 371 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: Washington has none of their pass rush. 372 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: Now, oh, I know. I just think the Giants are 373 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: that bad. 374 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: They can't start anybody from throwing the football. I can't 375 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: I can't do that and kind of or play them 376 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: over somebody better. They're not going to be in my top. 377 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: Twelve, probably not, probably not. I just think the Giants 378 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: are unbelievably bad on offense. 379 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: Well, I understand what you're saying. 380 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care who the opponent is. They might 381 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: be in the top twelve. 382 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: Dallas is at Carolina. Wow, Dallas is a wow? 383 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Gets yea. 384 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. The Titans are at Jacksonville. 385 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: Yes on the Jags. Yeah, Titans don't block anybody anymore. Yeah, 386 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: their defense will respond no one, the Titans. 387 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: Arizona is at Houston. 388 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: No one, Arizona probably no one both. 389 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyler becked, Yeah, that's not a bad offense. Sah. 390 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: Tampa is at San Francisco. 391 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: That's in slam dunkhn No on Tampa, Yes on San 392 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 3: Frae and there's some easy ones. 393 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: The Jets are at Buffalo h no and no, no, 394 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: you play Buffalo. I guess they're not very good on it. 395 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: It's not very good on defense right now. You'd like 396 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: to sit the Jets new coordinator though. Yeah, that doesn't 397 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: don't know what to expect there. 398 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: It's still a good offense. I mean Jets have a 399 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: good defense. It could be a low scoring game. 400 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: But Seattle is at the Rams kind of. 401 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: Lean towards no on both Stafford versus Gino. 402 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love it. 403 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: I don't love either. 404 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: And then finally Minnesota at Denver. Is Denver's defense now startable? 405 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: That's what I was sitting at contemplating. Is the Vikings 406 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: now startable? I think I don't think it's good, but 407 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: it's well coached, that they're aggressive, And I'd lean towards 408 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: no on both those. But they're probably somewhere from ten 409 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: to fifteen on the list. 410 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: Are they that much worse than Washington? 411 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 3: I was about to ask you I would start Washington 412 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: over either one of them. I don't think you would. 413 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: I might start Denver at home. 414 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: I get it. I mean I don't think there's be 415 00:17:59,119 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: a ton of points in there. 416 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: I mean, at some point here and I got again. 417 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: I love Josh Dobbs. At some point he's gonna turn 418 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: into like he's gonna start putting the ball on the ground. 419 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: He's gonna live the fumbles. 420 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think he's gonna be great. I think 421 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: Jefferson might be back for this game. He could be 422 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 3: changed your mind. But but they have, they have certain 423 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 3: certain did a great job against Diggs. 424 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: Like if you can't, okay. 425 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd played Denver's over Minnesota's. 426 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: I think so. 427 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: I think so offense runs the ball now and Wilson's. 428 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Javonte Williams looks like he's. 429 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: Back, Sutton's making plays. That offense isn't terrible. Denver is 430 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: not terrible. 431 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: The Monday night game, that's the that's the Sunday Sunday 432 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: night game. By the way, Yeah, the Monday night game 433 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: Philadelphia at Kansas City. 434 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: I'm saying no on both, but I think you can 435 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: make a case for yes on both. 436 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: I'd played the Kansas City. 437 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: Kansas City's he's been great, Kansas City, ohs has not 438 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: Philly off a by pass rushing Like, I'm not cutting 439 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: either one of those DEDs to pick up Washington. 440 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 2: I think if if you know, looking at some of 441 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: these other matchups, if you I mean most of this, 442 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 2: the slam dunk matchups, like you're not cutting or you're 443 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: not not playing them to play Washington. 444 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: No, that's what actually said, Washing, Like Washington, Denver, Minnesota, 445 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: are you're just rolling with these deo? Yeah, but part 446 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: of me just thinks that game might be thirty five 447 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: to thirty four. Yeah, just because it's prime time, big 448 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: time teams. 449 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: It feels that both both guys have had both teams 450 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: coming off a ride, right, it's. 451 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: Going to be an awesome environment. Yeah, Christmas Colors. 452 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: Which means it'll be a thirteen to ten game. 453 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: Both defenses are good. Yeah, that scares me. Scares me 454 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 3: as started to either one of them. So there was 455 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: like five or six. 456 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: I think Dallas. Dallas is the number one. They're going 457 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: to be the highest priced. 458 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 3: San Fran was really high. 459 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: San Fran will be high, yeah, because they're they're past 460 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:51,239 Speaker 2: rush good half. 461 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 3: Cleveland will be high. 462 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Cleveland will be high. I think the Steelers 463 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: will be high as well because of the turnovers. Miami 464 00:19:58,920 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: will be up there. 465 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. There was two or three others that were 466 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: pretty easy decisions. 467 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: Jacksonville probably be the middle of the road, but that 468 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 2: would be a nice, a nice mid level look. 469 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: To start defenses against Tennessee at this point. Be interesting 470 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: to see what they do with the Chicago playing Detroit 471 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 3: to another good Troy. 472 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Detroit would Yeah, So there's some there's gonna be 473 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: some high priced. 474 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, most of those already owned though they're not streamer types. 475 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you're just looking for a DFS start. 476 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like the cheapest one of the names we picked, baby, Yeah. 477 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: Or you know if if I in DFS, I would 478 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: stay away from Kansas City. 479 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: And Philadelphia me too, Me too. One of them I just. 480 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: Live with it. Yeah, the other ones I could live with. 481 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 2: You know. 482 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: No, it's not bad at all. So there's some obvious ones. 483 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, the more I think about it, 484 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: I don't mind Seattle against Los Angeles. 485 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: It's not a bad d. They're familiarity. 486 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: They'll rush the passer a little bit against against the Rams. 487 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: They have the corners to handle, and the Stafford's been 488 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: out for a few weeks. It's not horrible. It's not horrible. 489 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 2: See. 490 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 3: I keep going back and forth on ball, taking. 491 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: A quarter and a half to shake off the rust 492 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 2: a little bit, maybe throws in interception or two. 493 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: What do we what conclusion we come to on Bengals Ravens. 494 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what I think. I'm playing the Ravens. 495 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 2: You're definitely playing at home. Yeah, I don't hate since 496 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: I don't think Lamar's playing great. 497 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: I almost feel like AFC North verst AFC North team 498 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: I want to start. 499 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 2: It's going to be played under twenty. I mean, that's it. 500 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: I don't care what matchup. 501 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 2: Even though the last week's game wasn't I understand, but 502 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: there were two there were two defensive scores in that game. 503 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: So you were happy, you were happy you. 504 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: Played like that's what. That's the way these games go. 505 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm starting to lean towards So here's a little betting 506 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 3: node for people. I just heard this this morning that 507 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: over the last like fifty AFC North teams just take 508 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: the points. Probably shocks no, you know, just but the 509 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: underdogs are hitting like seventy percent. It doesn't matter what 510 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: teams play. If it's an AFC North Division game, it's 511 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: going to be close, is all that says. Yeah, you know, 512 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: so play the defenses. 513 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: I guess absolutely. Yeah, we're gonna get to a break. 514 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening 515 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. When we return, 516 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: it's power ranking dice. There we go get to that 517 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: right after this. 518 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: When you want black and gold football talk, you want 519 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: SNR Steelers Nation Radio. This is the Drive with Dale 520 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven 521 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio. 522 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale LOLLI he is 523 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt it's time for power rankings 524 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: here on Tuesday. And well, I haven't given him much thought. 525 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: Thanks for shake. I wonder how we talked yesterday about 526 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: the article on ESPN about playoff chances now that was 527 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: still up on their site even after the Bills lost, 528 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: and they didn't change the Bills stuff. 529 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 3: No, right, right, it's a problem. Yeah, right, But that's 530 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: a huge blow to. 531 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Them, a blow, so I'll be interested to see where 532 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: they hit. Let me ask a quick question. 533 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: Yes, if the Broncos and Bills played a hundred times, 534 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 3: how many games do the Bills win? I think more than. 535 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: Fifty, more than fifty. 536 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: But I think they're closer than people think seventy. I'd 537 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: say seventy five. I mean he done a throw pick 538 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 3: the first play more often than not. But yeah, they're 539 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: not that good. 540 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: No, they're not. 541 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 3: They're good. 542 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: They're not good enough to overcome that kind of. 543 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: Str right, and Denver's not terrible. I mean they have a. 544 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: Coach, they've gotten their stuff together. So looking here at 545 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: Eric Edholmes power rankings on NFL dot Com, the Carolina 546 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: Panthers have settled back in as being number thirty two. 547 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: Oh no, according to this is Accordey, I don't believe 548 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 2: that either. The Giants are as bad a team as 549 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: I've ever seen the league. Yeah, like they can't get 550 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: first downs. There was deep into the game Dallas had 551 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: more points than the Giants had. That was like deep 552 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 2: in the third quarter. Yeah, I mean they're not they're 553 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: they're not as serious. If the Carolina Panthers played the Giants, 554 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: who are now at thirty one, Okay, at least that's 555 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: if they played them ten times. I don't care where 556 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: they play. 557 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 3: The game eight seven, maybe nine, maybe nine. 558 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: Giants don't beat any Tommy DeVito. 559 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 3: Right right, I mean that's they're not an NFL team 560 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: right now. No, they don't block a soul. No, they're 561 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: thirty two by. 562 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 2: A wide margin, by a wide margin. 563 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: I don't understand that. 564 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: Uh well, he does have. It seems like what is 565 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: a New York bias, And. 566 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: We've mentioned that's the preseason. 567 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, at thirty down the spot the new England Patriots. 568 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 3: Yes, they've earned it. 569 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah they're that bad. 570 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 3: Yep, it's official. Yeah, they on a quarterback they got 571 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 3: probably Yeah. 572 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: At twenty nine, up three spots. The Arizona Cardinals. 573 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: They'd wipe the floor with the Patriots, they would. I 574 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 3: mean their offenses mediocre. I mean, if you talk about 575 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: terrible teams, if you can do something mediocre the. 576 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: Defense, the offense is mediocre. The defense is equally media ochre. 577 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: I don't about that part. 578 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: But it's it's not good. 579 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: It's not good. No, I mean I think Arizona's d 580 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 3: is problematic. I think their offense might actually be good, 581 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 3: you know. 582 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 2: Yeah they're not. 583 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: They may be even rising. 584 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: Not a good Well, they did move up three spots 585 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: this week. They were thirty two last week. 586 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: Like, I don't think they're gonna end up with trade 587 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: may or Kayleb Williams. No, you know, I think Kyler's 588 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: gonna be back. Maybe throwing a Marvin Harrison at. 589 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: Twenty eight holding steady of Chicago seems alright. 590 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, defense is better now though they're healthier, the secondary 591 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: is healthier. They traded for the sweat. It's not awful. 592 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,479 Speaker 2: Fields is coming back. 593 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're kind of intriguing too. 594 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: At twenty seven and I think they'll go up are 595 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: the Rams. 596 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very hard. 597 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna have some teams just ahead of them. They're 598 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: better the Rams. 599 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: At Stafford led Rahams offense is the twelfth best offense 600 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 3: in the league or something. 601 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. At twenty six, down three spots, the Packers pretty bad. 602 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 3: That's about where they were last week. They were down 603 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 3: three spots down with three spots. I don't know if 604 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: they played poorly and off If you just watch the game, 605 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: they say that they were actually better than I thought. 606 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: I don't know that I can bang them that far. No, 607 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have either to put them below this team. 608 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: At twenty five, down three spots to Titans. 609 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: Titans are really tight and quick. 610 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on. 611 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 3: There are lines what we thought it was and they 612 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: don't have weapons. Yeah. 613 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: At twenty four, down four spots the Falcons. Yeah, like, 614 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, why are the Jets not down in this spot? 615 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: They should be Atlanta's better than the Jets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 616 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: I don't think Atlanta stinks. 617 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. 618 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: They might win their division. 619 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: At twenty three, up three spots is Washington offense is 620 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: good defense or is it just okay, We're just gonna 621 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: go out and throw the ball over the place, and 622 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: the protection's bad interceptions be damned. 623 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: Where would you put them versus Atlanta and. 624 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: Their defense? I think I think Atlanta beats them. 625 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. They controlled the game and run the ball. The 626 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: Alanta's defense better than their. 627 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: They don't let the f they don't let the commanders 628 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: play the way the commander. The commanders just want to 629 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: go out there and try to outscore you because they 630 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 2: know they can't stop anybody. 631 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: That's one true, so they have the commander to fight 632 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: two spots lower. 633 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Washington, Yeah, don't fall into that trap, and you 634 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: can beat the committe. 635 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: It's not super talented, yeah, I mean their aw line's bad. 636 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: At twenty two down four spots, we finally get to the. 637 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 3: Jets, maybe five spots lower than that. 638 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: They don't have a quarterback. 639 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: Their offense is rough. 640 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: It's really tough to. 641 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: Watch it really is. It's the same thing every week. 642 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: At twenty one up four spots, the Raiders. 643 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 3: Okay, that might be about as high as they could go, though, 644 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 3: I mean the Aid O'Connell and the momentum of and they're. 645 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: Going to get smoked this week in Miami. 646 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: They're smoked this week in Miami. 647 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: Yes they are, Miami beats the crap out of bad teams. 648 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll put forty five on them. Oh yeah yeah. 649 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: At twenty up four spots, Denver. 650 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 3: Good, I mean rightfully, so, I think Peyton. I think 651 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: Peyton decided I don't want to trade everyone to trade deadline. 652 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: I can't trade everyone at the trade. 653 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: I signed McGlinchey, I signed another guard. I signed on 654 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: to get Russ right. 655 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: And then the owners just wanted to say, no, look, 656 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: this is your hand, you're dealt. 657 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: This is what we had this conversation. 658 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: You decided you were going to come coach this team, 659 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: coach this team. 660 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: And he's starting to get it right. Yeah, yeah, Gavante 661 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 3: looks better. You know. 662 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: At nineteen up two spots, Tampa. 663 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 3: Bay might be a little rich for them. 664 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: But I won a game. 665 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. 666 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: Five game. Well, they were at one point up in 667 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 2: the top ten, which was ridiculous too. 668 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: I'd private Lanta over Tampa in that division. 669 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: I think. So at eighteen down two spots, the Chargers 670 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: hard to count on. You can't count on at all. 671 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: What are they four and four or five and five? 672 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: I think four and five, four and five, four and five, 673 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: and you're two and three against AFC teams. 674 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not good. 675 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: No, they would be the best team you've mentioned though, 676 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: h yeah, I guess so. It's seventeen up, two spots Indianapolis. 677 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: I was just saying, thinking, though, I probably have the Colts. Yeah, 678 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: they win that game on the culture, I mean, Herbert 679 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: versus Minshew. Come on, Cults are. 680 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: One and four at home this year, are they? Yeah? 681 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: Steelers play them there, right, Steelers play them there? 682 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, at sixteen down three spots. New Orleans. 683 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: I think New Orleans loses a series to the Chargers. 684 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: Too, with the way they are right now constructed. Yes, 685 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: I think so because Marshall Lattimore's out. 686 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: I mean they've been They've been right in the middle. 687 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: Of the league the whole The Chargers beating anybody in 688 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: a series, however, counts on the Chargers not charging. They 689 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: find ways to lose games. 690 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: And I would also think, well, football doesn't work this way, 691 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: but over the course of a seven game series NBA, 692 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 3: hockey or whatever, you start to learn your opponent. Then 693 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: the coach has to adjust. Doesn't seem like a Charger strength, 694 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: but it does not. They don't play one hundred and 695 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 3: eleven game series. 696 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: At fifteen up, two spots, the Vikings best team you mentioned, 697 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: I'll take them over the Chargers this point, even with Dobbs. 698 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: I don't think Dobbs is going to be the answer 699 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: or anything. But Jefferson, I think he's coach of the year. Okay, Yeah, 700 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: I think Tomlin has a case for that too. 701 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: At fourteen down, three spots the Buffalo Bills. 702 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: They're five hundred, they're firing coordinators, they're losing a Denver 703 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: in prime time. Yeah, lost four the last five. 704 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: Or if this were the first year of the Buffalo Bills, 705 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: nothing had ever happened, right, you didn't know any If 706 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: you didn't know anything, you were just walking in watching 707 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: how they're playing, what they're doing on the football field. 708 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: They're lower than fourteen. 709 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I heard some people going into last night's game 710 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: saying Josh Allen might be taking over the MVP driver's seat. 711 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you talking based on? What? What 712 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: are you talking about? Their offense is really good, but 713 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: he turns all over a ton. There's not an obvious candidate. 714 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: Right he now leads a league in interceptions. 715 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: I think he does since he came in the league. 716 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like that's the problem. 717 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: At thirteen up a spot, are the Steelers best team 718 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: mentioned yet? Yeah, I'll see who's directly ahead of them, 719 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: but I would have them this spot or higher. They're 720 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 3: better than the Bills right now. 721 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: At twelve down three spots, the Bengals. 722 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 3: I would save the Bengals, even Steelers. I'm not sure 723 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: about the Browns though. 724 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: At eleven up a spot, Seattle they're good. They could 725 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: they could go to Los Angeles and loose to the Rams. 726 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: I think the Rams are the team that they can't beat. 727 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the rock, paper scissor. I think that they're 728 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: the rock and the like. 729 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: That wouldn't surprise me one bit that like Mvey just 730 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: beats Carol Carroll beats you know, that's just the. 731 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: Way it goes, however that goes, right, It is the 732 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 3: Rock and Arizona doesn't even count and doesn't eat anybody. Uh. 733 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: At ten up five spots, five spots, the Houston Texans. 734 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 3: Oh, I guess you have to put Houston over since 735 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: he but if they play a seven game series. Who 736 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: you taking? 737 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,719 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, injuries should matter a little bit. 738 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: Who they got them on a good day, doesn't they 739 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 3: got them on a good day? Who is? I don't 740 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 3: have a problem with Houston over Seattle, though I don't 741 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: have a problem with Houston over the Steelers. I guess 742 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: they're properly placed. I mean, considering they just beat the Bengals. 743 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: At nine up A spot is Cleveland, it seems rich. 744 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: They're not the ninth best team in the league. 745 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: Just think so either, But the last four teams the same. 746 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: I mean, people want to talk about the Steelers office, 747 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: and I get it, it's not great. This offense is 748 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: equally as bad when it comes to gaining. 749 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: Yards and they do, and so it's worse than the 750 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: Steelers offense because it hurts the team more. I agree. 751 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, like are they better than Houston? I mean, 752 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 3: like when you if you're in charge of if you're 753 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 3: Ed Holman, you have to do this. 754 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: I understand those. 755 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: Five teams there, from the Steelers to here, I could 756 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: probably throw them all in a bag and just shuffle 757 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: them up whenever order they came out. Four fan bases 758 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: would yell at me and one would you know, it's 759 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 3: the way it works, you know. But my hunch is 760 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 3: everybody from here on out, we would say is noticeably 761 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 3: better than this group. 762 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah it eight down four spots. 763 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 3: Is Jacksonville maybe they belong in that group too. Is 764 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 3: Jacksonville noticeably better than the teams we just mentioned? 765 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: Not noticeably? 766 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 3: Not noticeably. 767 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: They were very. 768 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: Unimpressive this past week coming off of Buy. 769 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: Their offense looks somewhat broken. 770 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: They don't run the ball particularly well. 771 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be taking that big step 772 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: and it just hasn't happened. They just as badly as 773 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers beat the Steelers in Week one. 774 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: This was worse. 775 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: Worse, Yeah, worse, Like they can't incorporate Ridley. I don't 776 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: think their protection is good. I think that's one of 777 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: the rut of the problems is they don't talk about 778 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: the o line issues as much as they should. Yeah, 779 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: it's no traded for a guard at the deadline, and 780 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 3: they're kind of telling you. 781 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, at seven up one spot, the Cowboys. 782 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: These are the top seven. 783 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: That's where they belong, though they don't belong like you 784 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: get a beat somebody, Yeah, yeah, Like I haven't looked 785 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: at these yet, but Miami should be next. 786 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 3: Yes, they both have don't have a signature win. 787 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 2: And neither one has a signature win though, And there 788 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: we go. 789 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: They're going too high, but that's right where they belong. 790 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: Okay, and five up two spots of San Francisco. 791 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 3: That might even be higher, but I'm cool with it. 792 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 793 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 3: Four I think San Francisco is better than Baltimore. 794 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. Yeah, and four up a spot 795 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: is Detroit. 796 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: I would have the Lions over the Niners. I yeah, slightly, 797 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 3: But you can't be a line. 798 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 2: Is it becomes in the situation. Well, when Detroit went 799 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: to Baltimore, you know, so I. 800 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: Think there's I mean NFC teams playing in Baltimore. I 801 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: think is a real it's a real thing. It's a loophole, 802 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: it's a black hole. Whatever. Yeah, but Baltimore, I think 803 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,439 Speaker 3: is a I wouldn't say Baltimore is a worst team 804 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 3: than Detroit, but I would say they're the worst team 805 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: than the Niners. 806 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. At three down, one spot is Baltimore. 807 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't think they get hit too hard. It's 808 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 3: a fluky game. 809 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: And it was a very game. The Browns have gotten 810 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 2: a couple of fluky ones this year there went over 811 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers. Was fluky is like it shouldn't happen. 812 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: It was a bad officiating call that they kept the 813 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: Browns on the game for the game winning drive. That 814 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: if it's not made, Yeah, San Francisco wins. 815 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: I will say, though. The thing I'm gonna harp on 816 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 3: all week people get sick of is when you play 817 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 3: that many more snaps on offense than defense, good stuff happens. Yeah, 818 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: and it's one hundred and sixty six, folks, So that's 819 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: how many more sent their defense have played like three 820 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 3: less games on their offense. 821 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: It's crazy, Mike could go likewise, when when your better 822 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: unit is on the field, good things happen. The Steelers 823 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 2: are turning opponents over. 824 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't want to be. 825 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: You don't want to be I understand that. Yeah, but 826 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 2: that's also part of it. Two is Kansas City sure 827 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: like putting putting Ravens ahead of Kansas City? 828 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I can't do it, can't. 829 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: Do it at all. I don't understand why you ever 830 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: even got to that point. 831 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it should have. They got a 832 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 3: little too excited about that too. 833 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: And then one is Philadelphia, So one ver two this 834 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 2: week in Kansas City. 835 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 3: I don't know who had a first of those two either. 836 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 3: One's fine. 837 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: I kind of lean towards Kansas City this week because 838 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 2: I think they'll win this game at home. If it 839 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 2: were a different question though, Philadelphia, yeah I would, I 840 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: would feel differently about it, or. 841 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: Pick the Chiefs. I just don't know. If I was 842 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: doing power ranks right now, who I put one? 843 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: Like again, when people say, oh, can the Steelers go 844 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: into Kansas City and win in the playoffs? Tell me 845 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 2: who can? 846 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 3: That's an awful chore. Yeah, tell me who wants them 847 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: not to get the one seed? Yeah, which they're probably. 848 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: They're probably gonna. Well, so the rest of the AFC 849 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 2: needs Philadelphia to win this week? 850 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, you want the Chiefs to lose to whoever possible? Yeah, 851 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 3: they're going to win their division, right, I mean, yeah, 852 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 3: they're walking away with it, walking away with it. That's 853 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: the way the Chargers are playing. 854 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 2: It's amazing this year how few actual division races there are. 855 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: So which ones are I mean? I guess the East 856 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: is still open, barely, barely. 857 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: Barely because the Eagles already beat the Cowboy once. 858 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: And I looked at the bills scheduled today. I was 859 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 3: talking about the ash AFC, and I think that's the 860 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: bill's only chance to go. It's to win division. 861 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: It's gonna be awfully difficult. 862 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: North is open. 863 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: North is wide open. 864 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 3: South is still open. 865 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: It's still open. The door is still open. 866 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 3: West isn't. Yeah, NFC East is, but it's bare barely. 867 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: North is not. 868 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: No. 869 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 3: Who cares if the South or not. 870 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 2: Because they're only getting one. 871 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 3: They're gonna be the fourth seed and they're gonna lose. 872 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 2: And the West is kind of open. 873 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 3: The West is kind of open. Seattle could catch them, 874 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,399 Speaker 3: but I wouldn't count on it. Yeah, so I think 875 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: about it. 876 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 2: We're midway through the season. 877 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 3: If you're Dallas and you're the top wild card team 878 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: you go to like New Orleans or Atlanta, you're favored. Yeah, 879 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: I mean that's not terrible. 880 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 2: And they'll put up forty points and. 881 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so if you don't win the East, you're 882 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 3: probably fine. Yeah, I agree, nice to get the one. 883 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 3: I agree the AFC much more much area deep. It's 884 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: much deeper like Denver's now in the conversation. Yeah, like 885 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 3: I think the vice or Rams that are going to 886 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 3: go they're not particularly great. 887 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 2: No at all. No, I mean when you go through 888 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: they really have like look at where those two teams are, right, 889 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 2: we talked about them a lot long time ago. The 890 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 2: Vikings are all the way down at fifteen. 891 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: The Rams were like at twenty five, right, which I 892 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: thought was too low. But they're not out of it. 893 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: I mean I don't know that these the Vikings. If 894 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 2: the Vikings are in the AFC, they'd be in worse 895 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 2: than Houston, be four and six right now? Yeah, yeah, no, 896 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: they would not be in the conversation. Yeah yeah, So 897 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 2: now I think they're going to go interesting. That's why 898 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: you know that game Denver at Minnesota is one of 899 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: the sneaky games this weekend. Or Minnesota add Denver, I 900 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 2: should say. 901 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 3: Denver has to be bigger if it was AFC, for says, 902 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: but Denver. I don't know if Denver can even belongs 903 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 3: in the conversation anymore. 904 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 2: But if they can win that game, now they're back 905 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: there five hundred. 906 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 3: Noah, you're right, I mean the math is there, like 907 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: they're better than the Jets and. 908 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: A team that lost by they gave up seventy points. 909 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 3: There oh, we were talking about them selling everybody get 910 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: the first picking the draft, no matter what, Caleb, what 911 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 3: do you gona do with Kayleb Williams. 912 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: A Yeah, they're they're cooking with Russ. 913 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. But they're better than like the Raiders or Jets 914 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 3: in the AFC. Yeah, Denver. Yeah, and that's not just 915 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 3: recency buyas they'd win those games. 916 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, absolutely, And we're gonna get 917 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: to another break. Here he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. 918 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. 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Matt, 928 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: all right, let's finish up the show here. That loss 929 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 2: last night by the Buffalo Bills gives them five conference losses. 930 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 2: We've talked about this a lot over recent weeks. So 931 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: if you start looking at the conference breakdown. 932 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 3: I think the Bills have to win their division, though they. 933 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 2: Pretty much do because they're gonna lose tie breakers like crazy. 934 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: They gotta go to Kent City, they go to Miami. 935 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 3: I mean, they got brutal schedule too. 936 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 2: So looking at the conference standings, and this is relevant 937 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 2: this week in particular because the Steelers play the Browns, 938 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: both teams four and two in conference. Now, the Steelers 939 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 2: have the better the AFC North record. They're two and oh. 940 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 2: Cleveland is two. 941 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: And two, Ravens are two and two, Bengals are zero 942 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 3: and two. 943 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 2: If the Steelers can win one of these two AFC 944 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 2: North games in the next two weeks, steel one in Cleveland, 945 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 2: Steel one in Cincinnati. And I don't necessarily know that, 946 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 2: I I care which one did you get. 947 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 3: I know matters at all. 948 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 2: If you can steal one of them, you're in great shape, 949 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 2: great shape. If you get them both, you're gonna win 950 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 2: a division. Yeah, you're gonna win the division. But if 951 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 2: you can get one of them again, you're now three 952 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 2: and three and oh or three and one in the 953 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: conference for a division, I should say, if you split, 954 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that any of the other teams are 955 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 2: going to be able to so necessarily get because. 956 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 3: I tend to agree with you, But I mean I 957 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: look at it this way. I mean they have four 958 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: more division games, Yeah, we Does any of us think 959 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 3: they're gonna be oz and four? No, that's just. 960 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: Gone how the division goes. Right now, Baltimore is two 961 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 2: and two in the division. Yeah, Cleveland is two and 962 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 2: two in division. Cincinnati's oh and two. 963 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 3: It's awful for them, and they have the hardest schedule 964 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 3: of the three of the four teams. 965 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 2: Chances are, when this whole thing is over, much like 966 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 2: it was last year, every team in the AFC North 967 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: is three and three against each other. 968 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 3: Would you take that? If you're the Steelers, I think 969 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 3: they'll get one more. 970 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 2: Right, I think they can get one more. Is it 971 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: is it this week? 972 00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 3: Is it next week? 973 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: Or is it in weeks seventeen against the Ravens. 974 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 3: So like, of those four remaining division games, I'm not 975 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 3: just excluding the upcoming two, but that's half of them. Obviously. 976 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 3: I put there over underwind total at like one and 977 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 3: a half. Like, I don't think they're gonna sweep them. 978 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna get swept. Yeah, so if 979 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: you get the three or four division wins, you're pretty 980 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 3: close to guarantee. 981 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 2: I think if you get the four division wins, they're 982 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: gonna be in the playoffs. 983 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna be in a playoffs and maybe win the division, 984 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 3: right you know. Now, I looked at this this morning 985 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 3: a little bit through the Browns eyes. If they get 986 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 3: this game, they're in really good shape because their schedules, 987 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: the schedule lightens up. It's really soft for them, and. 988 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 2: They've only got them one remaining division game, right. 989 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: Right, And I think they I forget how it goes. 990 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 3: I think they have a lot of home games laid 991 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 3: or something too. But they have some weird schedule stuff 992 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 3: that works in their favor. They have like the fifth 993 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 3: easiest schedule in the league. So this is even a 994 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 3: bigger game for the Browns. Maybe not, but I mean 995 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 3: their chances should in the mathematical world, the DVA stuff 996 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 3: we look at should jump dramatically with one more division win. 997 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: Here's what Cleveland has left. Yeah, Steelers this week. Next 998 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 2: week they're at Denver, and suddenly that game doesn't look 999 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 2: nearly as win you know, as easy as it did. 1000 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,479 Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of points in that game. 1001 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 2: No, Then they got to go to the Rams. 1002 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 3: So back to back road that three weeks ago. 1003 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, back to back West Coast road trips. 1004 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 3: Then they get the Jackie drop on the Rams. It 1005 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 3: doesn't hurt you bad. Yeah, you can't lose the Steelers 1006 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 3: and Broncos. 1007 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 2: You can't do that. Yeah. Then they get the Jaguars 1008 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: at home. 1009 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: They favor in that game. If it happens today, I pick. 1010 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 2: Them, they might be one point favorite something like that. 1011 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 3: I just think it was easier the next month than that. 1012 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 2: Then you get the Bears at home. Then you're at Houston. Right, 1013 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 2: that's suddenly because that's now suddenly a very very meaningful 1014 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 2: game in the AFC playoff race because both of those 1015 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: teams right now are in if if the playoffs started today. 1016 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 3: And what's funny is, you know the same thing we 1017 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 3: did before the season came out, Well, you beat the Texans. Yeah, 1018 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah. I don't know their favorite against the 1019 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 3: Texans today. 1020 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 2: I don't think they are right down not down there. 1021 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 3: Side note, I mean the Steelers have lost to the Niners, 1022 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 3: the Texans, and the Jags. Like, it's pretty three, pretty 1023 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 3: strong group. Yeah, you know, it's not like we all 1024 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 3: overreacted to the Texans loss. It's a bad loss, but 1025 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 3: the Texans are good. 1026 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 2: Texas are good. Then they play the Jets at home, 1027 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 2: and then they finish up the last week of the 1028 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: season against the Bengals in Cincinnati. 1029 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 3: That's not as easy as I remember. 1030 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 2: It looked easy a few weeks like, oh, but roll 1031 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 2: over them or the jack or I should say the Rams. Well, 1032 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 2: the Rams are by that time. Calm Williams should be 1033 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 2: back by then. 1034 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. Rams offense as long as Stafford's healthy, will be fine. 1035 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 2: Yah. It's not an easy game. 1036 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 3: So maybe I smiss spoke a little bit. I Mean, 1037 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: the way I saw it before was if the if 1038 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 3: the Browns win this week, I would really bet on 1039 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 3: them to go, not necessary win the division, go they're call. 1040 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 3: They do have easier games than the Bengals, for sure. Yeah, 1041 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: a little easier than the Steelers. 1042 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: But the thing is, if you're turning the ball over 1043 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: like he turned. 1044 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're still gonna play better on offense. 1045 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't turn the ball over like that, and 1046 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 2: you know you do that against the Bears, even justin 1047 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: fields might run for two touchdowns long touchdowns on you. 1048 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: Next thing, you know, you lose. 1049 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 3: And goofy things too, like we'll get into throughout the 1050 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 3: course of the week, like you can't count on your 1051 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 3: opponents to make sixty percent of their kicks. No eight 1052 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 3: field goals, you know, less than a field goal a game, 1053 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 3: and things like that aren't going to keep up. 1054 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Now they've lost to the steel They've lost to 1055 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 2: the Steelers, They've lost to the Ravens, they lost to 1056 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: the Seahawks. 1057 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 3: So they're they're good team. 1058 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 2: Losses are teams as well, yep. So it's it's the point. 1059 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 3: The problem is there's two of those are in the division. 1060 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the division is just good, it is. 1061 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 3: Which makes me very nervous if I'm a Bengal fan. Yeah, 1062 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 3: because they're just in the worst spot of them all. 1063 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I really think in Baltimore, you go, you're 1064 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 3: in Bill's land. 1065 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: I think when it comes down to it, the seven 1066 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 2: teams that are currently in the playoffs are going to 1067 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: be the seven playoff teams in the AFC. 1068 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 3: Who's the seventh, Houston, Houston, I don't think since he 1069 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 3: in Buffalo. 1070 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 2: Goes no, because again, since he loses this week in Baltimore, 1071 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 2: they're in deep trouble. 1072 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 3: Deep. 1073 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 2: Here's what Houston has left. It's very easy Arizona. Yeah, 1074 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: Jacksonville at home, they've already they they've already beaten the 1075 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 2: jackson Jauars in Jacksonville. Then they get the Broncos at home, 1076 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 2: three in a row. At home, it's a three game 1077 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: home win. Two of those, yeah, maybe all at the 1078 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 2: Jets should win three of those four At the Titans, Yeah, 1079 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 2: their schedule is very easy. Brown's at home, Titans at home. 1080 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: They get the Titans twice down the stretch, and then 1081 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 2: at the Colts. 1082 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 3: They have like two more losses, right, they're gonna be 1083 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,879 Speaker 3: They're gonna go now. 1084 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: They lost to the Colts at home earlier this year 1085 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 2: thirty one to twenty. So if you look at their losses, 1086 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: it's to Baltimore, it's to Indianapolis. They lost to the Falcons, 1087 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 2: and they lost to the Anthers, So they can lose 1088 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 2: to anybody. 1089 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were they're remarkably young too, and I think 1090 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 3: they're maturing quickly. But the loss of the pants three 1091 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 3: weeks again, lost the Panthers. 1092 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 2: Three weeks ago. They scored thirteen points against the Panthers. Yeah, 1093 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 2: I don't know that they're particularly out of the woods here, 1094 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: but they should win enough games with that schedule. 1095 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 3: They are the game that we might be getting a 1096 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 3: little ahead of ourselves on. Yeah, a couple of nice 1097 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 3: wins Stroud's really impressive, But can you win December? 1098 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 2: I mean they're they're signature victories right now or over 1099 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 2: the Steelers, the Saints and then the Bengals. Yea, and 1100 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 2: the Saints and the Bengals are the games. Yeah, but 1101 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 2: they were iffy. I mean those are borderline good. Like 1102 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 2: we just went through the we went through the power rankings. 1103 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 2: The Saints are down in the twenties. 1104 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 3: No, I don't think that No. One is a good team. 1105 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 3: I you're saying the boy, that schedule is favorable. Yeah, 1106 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 3: they're like they're good ship. So if it were the 1107 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 3: Bengals or Bills of that schedule, like, oh, they'll be 1108 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 3: all right, they'll figure it out. 1109 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 2: So I really think that the seven teams that are 1110 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 2: there right now end up being the seven. 1111 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: Teams leading that way too, going No. One Chargers, definitely No. One, 1112 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 3: Jets and Broncos and Colts and Raiders Raiders. Yeah, so 1113 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 3: it comes down to like nine teams, yeah for seven spots, 1114 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 3: and amazingly, Bills and Bengals might be the two out. 1115 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 2: They might be the two out and. 1116 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 3: There it's all said and done, they might be like 1117 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 3: they're really good teams. 1118 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1119 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 3: Great. 1120 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,439 Speaker 2: The Steelers have been in that situation in the past 1121 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 2: where oh, if they made the playoffs, nobody wants they 1122 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 2: want to play them, but your eighth yeah, or your 1123 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 2: seventh in previous years. 1124 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: The Bills are Bengals could win their last four games 1125 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 3: and make this real interesting. But man, they're in a 1126 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 3: tough spot. 1127 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's gonna do it for our show today, man, right. 1128 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 2: We will be back again tomorrow. Just a little note 1129 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 2: for people if you're trying to listen to the show 1130 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 2: live tomorrow, we're gonna be taping. 1131 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 1132 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 2: We have some issues here with with the getting on 1133 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: the air live, so you'll be able to hear it 1134 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,279 Speaker 2: on the on the loop, but you also be able 1135 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,399 Speaker 2: to hear it if you subscribe to us on Yeah, 1136 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 2: download the podcast, download the podcast, download anywhere you want. 1137 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely you can do that, and you'll be able to 1138 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 2: do that very quickly after six o'clock. So anyways, we're 1139 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 2: gonna take that's going to do it for today's show. 1140 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Brian Lamartine here 1141 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lollie. 1142 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the 1143 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio