1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: He's Ross Tucker, CBS Sports, Westwood One, and he did 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Jet Saints yesterday. He'll be on the call for the 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Niners Colts tonight on west Wood One. Round of applause 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: for a great year for Ross. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you guys for having me so much. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. I was wondering if you had 9 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: an award for best guests, and I was curious where 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: I might fit in. 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: Should we start one where we put maybe our top 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: five or six people who join us all the time, 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: And maybe we'll do that. But you're gonna be up 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: against Reggie Miller. I mean, there's gonna be a few 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: people in there, Steve Young, I mean there's I don't know. 16 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Do you want that? 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 3: Well, you know how I feel about it, Dan. If 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: I'm going to come in first, I think it's a 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: great idea. If I'm not going to come in first, 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: I just don't think it's joined necessary. Let me be 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: in my own big head, Okay, let me be first 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: in my own big head. I'll just assume, based on 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: the feedback I get from your great listeners, that I'm 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: that I'm number one. They don't need to have an 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: official vote and ruin my ruin my expectations. 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: Okay, if I said who do you believe in the most, 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: and I put those teams up there, So the Texans, Jags, Broncos, Patriots, 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: Who's first? 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: Right now? I would say the Jacksonville Jaguars. And I 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: know you guys said last, and I know you're not 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: believing him. They are really good. I mean I watched 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: them a lot, because last week I did Jets Jags. Okay, 33 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: think about this for a second. In a five game stretch, 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence didn't have to play in the end of 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter in four of those five. These are 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: NFL games. This is NFL teams. This is not a 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: power for versus a group of five or whatever anybody 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: wants to talk about. These are NFL teams where four 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: games out of five the Jags were able to put 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: Nick Mullins in the game. Then you go out to 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 3: Denver and you dominate the Broncos, like the Jaguars did, 42 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: their offensive lines playing very well. This is the best 43 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: we've ever seen Trevor Lawrence play. Their weapons are a 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: lot better than people realize. Parker Washington can play. Brenton Strams, 45 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 3: the tight end can play. They're like Jacoby Myers is 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: kind of like that guy that's always been just okay, 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: but people don't like. The Jaguars are sort of that 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: team Dan that has a bunch of underrated, underappreciated, under 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: the radar guys that are a lot better than people 50 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: realize because they don't play a lot of marquee games. 51 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 3: Even yesterday, okay, they're playing the team with the number 52 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: one seed. They're playing the you know, the big bad 53 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. That was a four h five game that 54 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: wasn't the featured Tom Brady, you know Kevin Burkhart game 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 3: that went to the Steelers' Lions. That have the Jaguars played. 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: I think the Jaguars played the Chiefs like in Week 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: four on Monday Night. That might have been their only 58 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: primetime game the whole year. Defensively, they got a bunch 59 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: of guys and as you can tell, and I noticed 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: this last week when I was there, they have an 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: immense chip on their shoulder. Liam Cohen, he's from Rhode Island. Okay, 62 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: he's got that New Englander in him. He takes a 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: fence to every he doesn't discriminate. He just takes a 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: fence to everything. He even drops the line about yeah, 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: I mean for a small market team like us, it 66 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: wasn't even a knock by Sean Payton. You know. Sean 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: Payton was just being honest and realistic. So they'll take 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: any little edge they can. And I know people sit 69 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: here and think, does that really make a difference. Yeah, 70 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: it does. It just stokes your fire a little bit 71 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: more every day. It's not only about the game, it's 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: about every day during the week, giving you the edge 73 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: to prep just a little bit harder. 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not rooting against the Jags. I want their 75 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: fan base to know it doesn't I'm just saying I 76 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: got to wait to see it happen. Same thing with 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: the Ravens, you know, Lamar Jackson. Let me see what 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: you do in the postseason. I mean the Steelers, I 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: don't know how good they are. I know when you 80 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: get to the postseason, you get in and you lose. 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: So I would like to see a little more from you. 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: I want to see Drake May and the Patriots in 83 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: the playoffs in a big moment there. I mean, I 84 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: think that's just natural reasoning with a lot of these 85 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: teams show me. We said this before. I want to 86 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: see what happens with Justin Herbert in a big moment. Yeah, 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: you can throw for four thousand yards. All of those 88 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: things are great. We're a bottom line sports society. 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 3: Well, I got news for you. I got news for you. 90 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: Though Dan Mahomes is not making the playoffs. We know 91 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: that Burrow's not making the playoffs. We know that it 92 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: looks highly unlikely Lamar Jackson is going to make the playoffs. 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: So think about that before if we did any quarterback rankings, 94 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: any quarterback discussions, there was a clear top four, there 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: was a clear elite group, and we talk about how 96 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: it's by far the most important position in the sport, 97 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: and all that three of the four guys that are 98 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 3: clearly coming into the year the best of the best quarterbacks, 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: three of the four are not going to the playoffs. 100 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: I don't think that the Ravens are going, which, by 101 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 3: the way, means Josh Allen, the time is yours, bro, 102 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: I mean it is your time. 103 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: Can there be more pressure on Josh Allen to finally 104 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 2: get to a Super Bowl? 105 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: Yes, there's even more because those other guys aren't in it. 106 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: There's even more. But the point I was gonna make 107 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: is a lot of those teams you just mentioned, right, 108 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: Jacksonville or Herbert or you know this Steelers, somebody has 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: to win these games, Dan, I mean a lot of 110 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: these teams are gonna be playing against each other. I mean, 111 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: these are the teams in the playoffs. So you just 112 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: named three of the seventeen that are going to be 113 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: in the playoffs in the AFC. I mean, I guess 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 3: all three of them could lose it the first round. 115 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: But somebody has to win these games. We have to 116 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 3: start to believe in somebody, because Malmes, he's not coming. 117 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: I didn't understand. Now, I understand the call in the 118 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: Lions Steelers game that you know it was past interference 119 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: offensive pass interference. If you want to call that, you 120 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: call that, But the fact that the play look like 121 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: it was still alive if there's no pass interference, Now, 122 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the call here and then I'm gonna 123 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: come to you because I have a couple of problems here, Marvin. 124 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: Play that the last play there in the lines game, fourth. 125 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: And goal for the Lions from the nine ball game 126 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: on the line right here. They need the end zone 127 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: for the win. Jared leans in. There's the snap on 128 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: fourth down, Jared back, Jared stepping up, Jared look, he 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: throwing end zone. It is caught by Amen ras Shy 130 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 4: at the end zone. He flips it back to Goff 131 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: who talked it to the end. 132 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: Zone for the touchdown. There's a flag that came in. 133 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 5: Two flags. 134 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 3: Did they rule them down? 135 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: Are they going to say pass interference against dom and raw? 136 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: There's no time left on the clock. Here comes Carl Scheffers, 137 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: the officials that finally broke and we're gonna get call 138 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: right here? Is this game over or not? 139 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: Pittsburg's staying on the field, but they're really on the field. 140 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 5: There's a touchdown. 141 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: However, US interference number fourteen on the offense. 142 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: My rule, that penalty is not enforced and there is 143 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: no replay. The game is over. 144 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 5: Wow, there is no touchdown. 145 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, talk about a bait and switch. That is 146 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: embarrassing for the official. It's a touchdown, but there's pass interference. 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: There is no touchdown. Game over, good night and drive 148 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: home safely. How could you possibly say it's a touchdown 149 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: in Detroit and then say, but there was past interference? 150 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: No touchdown. 151 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: I think Dan, he should have sold it harder and 152 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: really pulled off a grinch move there. Jeffers should have 153 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: been like, the ruling on the field is touchdown, Detroit Live. 154 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: Except unfortunately there's a penalty of games over. You guys 155 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: lost the ye. 156 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: But I wonder if the whistle, because they clearly had 157 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: stopped I'm on Ross Saint Brown his forward progress, right. 158 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: I don't know if a whistle, let's say there's no 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: pass interference, would they I guess they would have allowed 160 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: that touchdown because he said that it's a touchdown except 161 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,239 Speaker 2: for there his past interference. 162 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely they would have allowed it, which would have been incredible. 163 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in raw. First of all, that was 164 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: about blatant a past interference. I don't know why he 165 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: was doing. He went right after the guy and just 166 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: two hands shoved him. Probably didn't need to do it, 167 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: but he did. But can you imagine if Jared goff 168 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: on a pitchback the touchdown diving into the end zone 169 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: for the Lions to be able to go to the playoffs, 170 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: and that that's how that game had ended. But you 171 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: have to call it a touchdown, Dan, if you're gonna 172 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: call the two point conversion in the Seattle Rams game 173 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: where Sharbonag just walks over and picks up the ball 174 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: that's in the end zone. I gotta be honest with you, 175 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: I had much more of a problem with that. That 176 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: to me should not have been two points for the Seahawks. 177 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: The whistle blue in that one, and that one the 178 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: whistle blew. In my opinion, as a player, once the 179 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: whistle blows, nothing after that should count. Because what would 180 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: have happened if the whistle blue and Sharbonage just walking 181 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: over to pick the ball up. Am I allowed to 182 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: just come in and just crack him? 183 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 5: No? 184 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: I would have been penalized. So if Sharbonae's going to 185 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: score the two point play, but if I came over 186 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: and just annihilate him, they would throw a penalty on me. 187 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: Then you can't say the two point conversion counts. I 188 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: had a real problem with Thursday night, way worse than 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 3: and then Cheffer's in that game yesterday. 190 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: He's Ross Tucker CBS Sports Westwood One. He'll be on 191 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: the call for the Niners and the Colts on Westwood one. 192 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: What is DK Metcalf doing with the fan his team 193 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: is winning, He's probably going to be suspended for a 194 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: game you make contact with the I know fans say 195 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: a lot of bad things, negative things, but you can't. 196 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: You can't take matters into your own hands. What do 197 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: you think the NFL does. 198 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: I think that they probably will suspend him because this 199 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: is a lot different than the fan initiating physical contact, 200 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: or the fan, you know, somehow coming on the field 201 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: or anything like that. DK metcalf went all the way 202 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: over into the stands. It wasn't like the guy was 203 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: right behind him. I mean, that was a good ten 204 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: yards behind him. Obviously, whatever the guy said. The guy 205 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: told the Detroit Free that he called DK by his 206 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: real name. 207 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. 208 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: It's whatever the D is and the K is, and 209 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: I guess I didn't know that. But now evidently DK 210 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: does not like that. By the way, now every defensive 211 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 3: back knows that DK does not like if you call 212 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 3: him by his real first name. But you can't do that. 213 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: You cannot walk over. I feel very strongly when fans 214 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: cross over the line that that's very different to me. 215 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: This. 216 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: You're allowed to say whatever you want to say from 217 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: the stands. You're allowed to say whatever you want to say, 218 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: and a player cannot go over there and initiate anything, 219 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: especially putting their hands on them. I think the NFL 220 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: has to come down on him hard. Right or wrong. 221 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: Your game tonight, Explain to me how the Niners are 222 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: doing it this year. 223 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: They are a really very well coached team. 224 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: I mean, this might be Kyle Shanahan's best coaching that 225 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: he's done. And nobody's going to talk about it. When 226 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: you lose your two best defense players, Ayuki is a 227 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: no show. Debo's gone. I mean, you had Mac Jones 228 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: for a while. Now perty in the most competitive division 229 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: in football. 230 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: It's incredible. You're right, it might be Kyle Shanahan's best 231 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: coaching job. You know, they have sixteen sacks. That's by 232 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: far the worst in the NFL. Everybody else has at 233 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: least twenty two. 234 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: I'll give Sala Miles Garrett has more sacks than the Niners. 235 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett has six more sacks than the Niners. 236 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 5: It's unbelievable. 237 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: I'll give Sala a lot of credit because you lose 238 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: two of the top twenty players in football on defense, 239 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: and he still has had a couple games where they 240 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: gave up less than ten points. We'll see what happens. Tonight. 241 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: My guess is, Dan, they'll drop eight in coverage and 242 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: pack it up and in and force Philip Rivers to 243 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: try to have to fit the ball on tight windows 244 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: or throw it deep. But they're just very very well 245 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: coached both sides of the ball. The offense is a machine. 246 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: Here's you. I think it's crazy. Watch the game a night, Dan, 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: and tell me that McCaffrey hasn't lost just a little. 248 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: Oh yes, definitely he's lost it. 249 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: And the guy's gonna have two thousand yards from scrimmage. 250 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: He's third in the NFL with over said, he's gonna 251 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: have four hundred and eighteen touches. The last time somebody 252 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 3: had over four hundred touches was McCaffrey had four, oh 253 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: weeight in twenty nineteen. I'm in awe. Imagine this, Okay, 254 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 3: imagine not being the player you used to be and 255 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: losing a step or half a step, and yet you 256 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: go out and get an NFL football over four hundred 257 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: times and have over two thousand yards. That guy coming 258 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: off of the two injuries last year, that guy is 259 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 3: an absolute warrior. I'm incredible. I'm like, he's one of 260 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: those guys in my in my Hall of Fame that 261 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: I'm in awe of that he's able to do is 262 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: the mental and physical. 263 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Toughness just like you. 264 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: Just hey, listen, I had to fly from New Orleans 265 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: to through Chicago to Indianapolis to get here to call 266 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: a game with unbelievable horror the night. I mean, you know, 267 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: profile is encouraged. I know that. I don't know when 268 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: the last episode they've done is. But I had to 269 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: stay and I had to stay in a merry out 270 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: here and I just went to the M Lounge. Breakfast 271 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: was delicious. It's it's not easy, man, You're my hero. 272 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy. Merry Christmas to you, save travel. Yeah, 273 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas, guys, thank thank you. 274 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: That's Ross Tucker. 275 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 276 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 277 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP. 278 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: Pauly Fools Go Here with Tony Fools Go. 279 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah. 280 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 7: As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning 281 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 7: Paully and Tony foolsco show. Yeah, but instead of us 282 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 7: telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick 283 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 7: described us when he came on our show. 284 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated. 285 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: What are you doing interrupting our promo? 286 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: You wasn't talking about you. 287 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 8: You took those clubs totally of context. 288 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you 289 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 7: out and beat you. 290 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 5: Let me put this into context. 291 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: Shut up. 292 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Pauli and Tony Fusco 293 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 7: Show on Ieartradio, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 294 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeing, let's bring in Rick Neuheisel, CBS Sports College football 295 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: analyst feels like those who didn't want tu Lane or 296 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: James Madison in the playoffs certainly got what they wanted. 297 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 6: Oh I agree, I agree, And I think someday we're 298 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 6: going to get to a point where James Madison Tulane 299 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 6: are going to get to play each other, and we 300 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 6: just need to get that game the kind of stage 301 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 6: that it deserves, you know, a New Year's Day stage 302 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 6: where they can play for a group of five or 303 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 6: a group of six, whatever it ends up becoming national champion. 304 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 6: The fact that we're taking players from them, you know, annually, 305 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 6: just basically taking their all start team and putting it 306 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 6: on the powerful rosters with lavish gifts. It makes it 307 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 6: difficult for them to compete when they get to this 308 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 6: portion of the year. 309 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: Best team remaining is who. 310 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 6: I still think it's Ohio State. I know Ohio State 311 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 6: got comfortable not trying to be too explosive offensively and 312 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 6: lean into their defense, and Indiana kind of exposed them there. 313 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 6: But I believe you know, with Ryan day now back 314 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 6: probably calling play's heartline spending, just like I said, the 315 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 6: Colin kleinb dilemma, having to get ready for what's going 316 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 6: on at South Florida. I think that Ohio State has 317 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 6: the makings of the offense that can win a national championship, 318 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 6: and they've certainly proven themselves defensively. 319 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: The best matchup coming up is who. 320 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 6: Goodness gracious, I love the Rose Bowl Indiana. I mean, 321 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 6: if you're an Indiana fan, are you just absolutely have 322 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 6: red marks all of them for the times you've been 323 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 6: pinching yourself. I'm been trophy winner, he's been trophy winner, 324 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 6: and now the Big Ten championship. You've been to the 325 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 6: College Football Playoff now two years in a row. It's 326 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 6: too good to be true. And now you're going to 327 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 6: the Rose Bowl to take on Alabama. I mean This 328 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 6: is like some psychedelic dream that most of these folks 329 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 6: had back in their college days. This is too good 330 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 6: to be true. 331 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: First half social media, Notre Dame fans talking about Alabama 332 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: no show down, seventeen to nothing, and then they went quiet. 333 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 2: The second half there, it. 334 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 6: Went pretty quiet, pretty fast. Although Brent Benables has got 335 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 6: to be sitting there look at himself in the mirror, 336 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 6: go what was I doing? Third and five? Sending out 337 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 6: my kicker to kick into the wind from fifty one 338 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 6: yards away after he missed a chip shot. It was 339 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 6: not the exemplary head coaching one oh one by coach Enables, 340 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 6: but still a good year and a whale of a comeback. 341 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 6: And that's kind of stuff that's first teams on. I 342 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 6: don't know they're good enough without a running game, but 343 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 6: it was certainly a roll tide type of evening. 344 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: All Right, you promised a song the last time you 345 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: were on, so. 346 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 9: I have it. 347 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: I'll have it. Okay. 348 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 6: The topic is, oh, we're in the Christmas time of year, 349 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 6: so it will be self explanatory. Hang on for a 350 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 6: second as I adjust myself in my beautiful studio here, 351 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 6: and just remember my boy sounds a little bit basis. 352 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 6: It's just because it's early am. 353 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: Where I am. And by adjusting yourself, you mean you're 354 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: adjusting the guitar that you're playing. The guitar is right here. 355 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 6: I had to put you on a speaker. 356 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 5: Okay, I can do all things, all right. 357 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: Let me give the full introduction. He's a CBS Sports 358 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: College football enlist. He gave us Born in the SEC 359 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: years ago the Ballad of Johnny Manziel years ago, and 360 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: here he is in the Christmas Spirit Rick Neuheisel. 361 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 9: The song is entitled just let him play college Football. 362 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 10: Discombob you, lady, but don't let that get you to frustrate. 363 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 10: Just sit yourself down and say, let him play, Let 364 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 10: him play, Let him play. 365 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 9: Coaching carasel this spinning and are the only book Screenny, 366 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 9: but don't you show just may let him play, Let 367 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 9: him play. 368 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 10: Let him play. When we finally get to the game, 369 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 10: woll show the young got to be. 370 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 9: Better with da shame, notre dame. Soon the season wind go, 371 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 9: so don't stress about the coming and going, even though. 372 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 10: There's no signs of slowing. 373 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 9: If he he get crunk, we pray, let him. 374 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 10: Play, let him play, Let him play. The holidays now 375 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 10: upon us, and it doesn't take noster dommas to predict 376 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 10: what's on its way. Wash him play Washington, play wash 377 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 10: him play. 378 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 9: Eli Drinker said. The game is that, he said, some. 379 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 10: Kind of reedy piskin clue old miss Winter and lay 380 00:20:53,640 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 10: yet rich. But the stift comes from hell. Lets you 381 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 10: sounds so bounding. 382 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 9: The sound you hear a head pounding? Help me went out? 383 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 9: Say let play play that. 384 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 10: Play Let's play walk play. 385 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah you did it again. This is this is where 386 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: you smash your guitar. Don't you didn't that how you 387 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: entered where for good? 388 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 5: Uh? 389 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you, Happy New Year, Thank you game, 390 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: my friend, Thank you. 391 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 6: Buddy, always a treat. Happy Holidays. 392 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Rick neu Heie. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 393 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: tal lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 394 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 395 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: Search FSR to listen live. 396 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: Nate Berson's Busy Guy NFL Christmas Game Day and that'll 397 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: be on Netflix. Uh so you you'll be in the 398 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: booth for the Cowboys and the Commanders, and you know 399 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: these games sound good when the season comes out. Nate, 400 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: where you go, man? Cowboys? And the commanders here, all right, 401 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: let me hear you sell it. 402 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 5: Well, listen, you're right. 403 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 8: Initially, you know, they reached out and they said this 404 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 8: is going to be the Cowboys commanders on Christmas Day. 405 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 8: I'm thinking, oh wait, we got an NFCS survivalry. This 406 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 8: is going to be one of the biggest games of 407 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 8: the Year's Dak Prescott. 408 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 5: They're fighting for a chance to make a Super Bowl run. 409 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 8: Jayden Dawns riding everybody just how good he is at 410 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 8: the quarterback position, great defense. 411 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: This is an offense, it's not it's not a chess, 412 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 5: it's not a checkers game. It's chess. 413 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 8: All of the good things that we like to say 414 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 8: in sports. And then it falls off the rails. The 415 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 8: Cowboys have another year of disappointment at not being contenders, 416 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 8: and then just injuries decimated this commander's team. 417 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 5: But here's the thing. It still as a rivalry game. 418 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 5: And you have a couple. 419 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 8: Of cool people in the booth with a bunch of 420 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 8: people surrounding the game. We're gonna have fun. It's Christmas Day. 421 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 8: We're gonna talk exces and Oo's stories about bros. And 422 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 8: the reality is football always finds a way of making 423 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 8: itself entertaining even if the playoff implications aren't there. 424 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 5: Listen, we got a ton of stuff. We could talk about. 425 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 8: Christmas movies, Christmas Day routines, we can talk about being 426 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 8: in the playoffs versus booking your vacation. I think Matt 427 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 8: Ryan and I were on the set yesterday trying to 428 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 8: figure out who we're gonna put in our all Christmas team. 429 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: You know, who's Santa, Who's Rudolph? 430 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 8: Down the line, we got a ton of stuff to 431 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 8: fill time if the game doesn't give us the entertainment 432 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 8: we need. But I have a feeling that Cowboys Commanders 433 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 8: is going to be Clint Key of the entertainment. 434 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 5: We will need. 435 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So Cowboys Commanders at one Eastern with Iron Ego 436 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: and Matt Ryan. Then it's the Lions in the Vikings. 437 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: Pregame begins at eleven am Eastern on Netflix. 438 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 8: Those two matches sounded really good a few months ago. 439 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure out how the official says 440 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: touchdown and then says, however, okay, so help me understand 441 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: that in the Lion Steelers game, where it's not a 442 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: touchdown because there was a penalty, So why would you 443 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: start with your ruling calling it a touchdown and then saying, 444 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: but there was past interference, no touchdown. Game over drive 445 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: home safely. 446 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 10: Yeah. 447 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 8: See, I listen, man, Let's keep it real. This is 448 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 8: what I like to I like to keep it real 449 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 8: with you. I was d to about the Vikings playing in 450 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 8: NFC North went to Seattle for four years, right, and 451 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 8: then I had an opportunity to sign another deal, so 452 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 8: I went to Detroit and now I remember when I 453 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 8: got there, guys were scoring. 454 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 5: They were like, look, the league, the league. 455 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 8: Doesn't like us, and Nate playing here is rough, not 456 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 8: just because we're trying to exercise demons, but when a 457 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 8: game is on the line, it tends to go the 458 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 8: other way, you know. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, no, no, no, no. 459 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 8: I've been in the league for seven years now, and 460 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 8: I get it. There's some close calls, but football is football, right, 461 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 8: And they're like, no, no, nay, I don't think you understand it. 462 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 8: When it comes to the Lions, there are certain games 463 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 8: that just don't go our way, even though everybody knows 464 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 8: they should. Now, I remember questioning that, doubting that, and 465 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 8: then one year we open up in Chicago, it's a 466 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 8: close game. You know, those Division games are really like 467 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 8: two and it's the Lions versus the Bears. 468 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 5: We're in Chicago. Last minute, hell Mary threw up to 469 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 5: Calvin Johnson. He catch is it? 470 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 8: He has it in one hand, puminent with his big 471 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 8: old MITSI slides on the hip. He even has like 472 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 8: an elbow down and then he goes to get up 473 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 8: on both hands and one still has the ball in it, 474 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 8: and he just pushes himself up off the ground even 475 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 8: less the ball go Even the Chicago Bears, we're dapping 476 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 8: us up, saying, hey, good game, good game. 477 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, y'all won that one. 478 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 8: We'll see y'all a little later on, you know, in Detroit, 479 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 8: and as the rest are sitting there meeting with each other, 480 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 8: we're sitting back and thinking, what the hell are you 481 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 8: meeting about? 482 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 5: Game over? That's a catch. We're one and on right now. 483 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 8: Sure enough they come back, they look at the cameras 484 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 8: and they say, incomplete past game over. 485 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 5: I was blown away. I really was. 486 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 8: And I can't help but to think about all of 487 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 8: these moments throughout Detroit Lion's history where our eyes see 488 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 8: one thing, but then the reality is something else. Now 489 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 8: I'm on rock. He extended fully on that one by 490 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 8: the goal line. I think nine times out of ten 491 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 8: they're looking for that full extension. They're gonna call that 492 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 8: a touchdown. Before that though, where they call it a 493 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 8: pick play. But the DV pushed it out. I believe 494 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 8: it was Tesla push tim smart played by the DV, 495 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 8: by the way, because if you push a guy into somebody. 496 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 5: Else, you lose balance. 497 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 8: The key is when you're running a pick play, you're 498 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 8: swimming over the guy, you're running through the guy. You're 499 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 8: making a move to make it seem like you're running around. 500 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 8: I think the DV recognized that, and I was like, 501 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 8: I'm gonna shove him. 502 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 5: Throw my balance. Now I'm all balance. I'm just trying 503 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 5: to stay up. 504 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 8: It looks like I'm leaning one way or the other, 505 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 8: and it looks like a pick play. But I still 506 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 8: think that was a perfectly executed play. Touchdown by the Lions. 507 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 8: Game over. But here we are again another example of 508 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 8: how we think one thing and the rest call another. 509 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: Okay, wait mate, you you actually thought that the NFL 510 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: had something against the Lions. 511 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 8: People that played for the players that played for the 512 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 8: Lions said that to me, and I thought to myself, nah, 513 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 8: and I can't be And then when they took that 514 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 8: catch away from Calvin, A lot of Lions fans, in 515 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 8: Bears fans and people that just love, you know, big 516 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 8: plays by Calvin Johnson, they remember this play. He caught 517 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 8: that damn ball. I don't care what anybody says. The 518 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 8: whole Like back then, it was like the action of 519 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 8: the catch. You gotta catch, you go to the ground 520 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 8: and get up and then walk to the locker room, 521 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 8: take a shower, and take the bus home and the 522 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 8: flight and then bury it in the backyard. I just 523 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 8: feel like that catch, right there was a catch and 524 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 8: that just it just it left a sour taste in 525 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 8: my mouth. Listen, the cookie's gonna crumble one way or 526 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 8: the other. I just felt like we weren't getting, you know, 527 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 8: our crumbs. 528 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: And that changed football. You know, they really did that 529 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: whole complete the processed nonsense. I mean, you're you're an 530 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: ex wide receiver. I can't imagine, you know, even that 531 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: play with the Ravens where you know, uh, you got 532 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: two steps and the football move is to have the 533 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: ball away from the That is a football move. Yeah, 534 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: So I don't know what would you teach you have 535 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: to overcatch. Now it feels so you have to over catch. 536 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 5: Listen. 537 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 8: I feel bad for past catchers, and in DB's in 538 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 8: particular because one past catchers, we have to focus on 539 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 8: which we're supposed to do. We get paid to catch 540 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 8: the ball, figure out a way to tuck it away 541 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 8: before it gets punched out because the peanut punch has 542 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 8: become wildly popular. Instead of going for the tackle, guys 543 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 8: are just going for the ball. So catch, tuck away, 544 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 8: snug away from the dB and then get one two three. 545 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 8: It's not just one two, it's one two three. And 546 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 8: to be honest, hold on to that thing until the 547 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 8: whistle blows. 548 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: Don't let it go. 549 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 8: Don't allow the DV to play with it after the 550 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 8: whistle because they might take it away. And then on 551 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 8: the flip side, I feel bad for some of these dbs, 552 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 8: even mind backers. A guy catches the ball and then 553 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 8: he's he's basically figuring out what his aim point is 554 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 8: gonna be. I'm gonna take his shoulder and I'm gonna 555 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 8: shove it right into your sturnum. I'm gonna hit you 556 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 8: in the shoulder. I'm gonna hit you in the upper region. Shoot, 557 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 8: I might try to take out one of your ribs, 558 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 8: but I'm using my shoulder. 559 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 5: Old school football. 560 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 8: A lot of guys when they catch the rock, they 561 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 8: see that and then they crouch. I'm not gonna call 562 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 8: it coward, but they crouch down, which lower there is the. 563 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: Level of their helmet. 564 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 8: So now you might have been aiming for this right here, 565 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 8: my chest, shoulder, maybe even my rib. 566 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 5: But if I see you and I. 567 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 8: Don't want to take that shot, and I crouched down, 568 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 8: now I'm putting my helmet in a place where you 569 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 8: aren't intending to hit, and all of a sudden it's targeting. 570 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 5: Man, I feel bad for these dudes trying to tackle 571 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 5: right now. 572 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 8: And then if you're going low and taking out people's 573 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 8: cleats or knees, now all of a sudden you're looking 574 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 8: You're looked at as a guy who doesn't want to 575 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 8: go up top. 576 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 5: So you're stuck. You're really stuck. 577 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 8: So I just feel like there's some rules that we 578 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 8: still got to tweak a little bit without making the 579 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 8: game softer as of some traditional traditionalists would like to say. 580 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: Nate burleson NFL today on CBS, and you can see 581 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: him on Netflix. That'll be on Christmas Day, NFL Christmas 582 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: Game Day, He'll be in the booth Cowboys and the Commanders. 583 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: But you bring up that punch out, it's a violent 584 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 2: I can punch you as hard as I want in 585 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: the arm and say I'm going for the ball. 586 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 8: Correct, No doubt. You can hit you. You can aim 587 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 8: just about anywhere like you can. You can wink wink 588 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 8: miss and hit a guy and his and his nuggets. 589 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 8: You can hit him in his stomach. You can even 590 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 8: you know, hit him in his arm and bruise it up. 591 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 8: But it's a play that I think if you're doing 592 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 8: it with intentionality not to hurt the ball carrier, I 593 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 8: don't mind it at all, you know what I mean. 594 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 5: I think it's one of the smartest plays in football. 595 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 8: Listen, you know if you if your team is going 596 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 8: to rally to the rock, that means the first guy 597 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 8: there can take that that that guesstimation, that that that 598 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 8: risk to. 599 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 5: Go for the ball. And if I miss, you know 600 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: the troops are coming behind me. 601 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you, uh make a pick of the 602 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: AFC right now today. 603 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 5: All right, let's do it. Who you got. 604 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 8: The Buffalo Bills I believe that even when they win ugly, 605 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 8: they're still victories. And they we've seen them win big 606 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 8: and we see them put up points. They're anchored by 607 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 8: a fantastic running game with James Cook, and then when 608 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 8: Josh Allen wants to be a running. 609 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 5: Back, you can. You can make any throw in the book. 610 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 8: The passing game might not be as prolific as some 611 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 8: others in the league, but they run through their tight ends. 612 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 8: The passing game goes through their tight ends and their defense. 613 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 8: They're true ben vedon't break. I know it's cliche, but 614 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 8: they are that. Also, let's just talk about like X 615 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 8: factors or non X factors being in their way. This 616 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 8: might be the best path that Josh Allen has ever 617 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 8: had to face. We're talking possibly know Lamarrow, right, it 618 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 8: looks like they're on the outside looking in. No Joe Burrow, 619 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 8: no Patrick Mahomes. If not now, then win now. I'm 620 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 8: not knocking I'm not knocking Bonnicks. I am also not 621 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 8: knocking Drake may and I'm for sure not knocking Trevor 622 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 8: Lawrence because he might be playing the best football out 623 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 8: of all quarterbacks right now. But if you're not facing 624 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 8: that big three of Mahomes, Burrough and Jackson. I think 625 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 8: Josh Allen has to really take this team and look 626 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 8: at them and say, listen, we are facing some young 627 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 8: guys who have not been in this position. They don't 628 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 8: know what it's like to want close out of season, 629 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 8: let alone fight for an AFC title game. So let's 630 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 8: take advantage of the fact that we have been there. 631 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 8: We know what this feeling is like to be in 632 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 8: the postseason. Oh and more importantly, we know what it's 633 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 8: like to go home after the AFC Championship game and 634 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 8: then have to watch the rest of the Super Bowl 635 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 8: week with you know. 636 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 5: The everyday civilian that doesn't play football. 637 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 8: So I just feel like this is I won't call 638 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 8: it the path of least resistance because that will be 639 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 8: dismissive to the Broncos, Patriots and Jaggs. I just feel 640 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 8: like this is the best path that Bill's fans in 641 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 8: this Bill's team has ever seen to a Super Bowl run. 642 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: Give me your NFC pick before you got to go. 643 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 5: This is tough, man. I'm torn. 644 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 8: It's like I'm torn between you know, two exus, you know, 645 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 8: and then they both fine and we had good times, 646 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 8: you know. Listen, it's those two exes are for two 647 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 8: different reasons. The Seattle Seahawks because I played for him 648 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 8: and I'm from Seattle and you have to respect the record. 649 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 5: And also beating the Rams. 650 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 8: Speaking of the Rams, Matt Stafford like, that's my former quarterback, 651 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 8: So essentially the Rams are my X two. And I 652 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 8: just feel like it's funny because we saw that game, 653 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 8: right and it was a big time game on Thursday, 654 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 8: and while thinking this is going to help us decide 655 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 8: who we have faith in in the NFC, not just 656 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 8: the NFC West, Seattle wins and people are like, yeah, 657 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 8: but I still trust the Rams, and you know, and 658 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 8: I get it. There's question marks about how for real 659 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 8: Seattle is. I think there's also question marks how Sam 660 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 8: Darnold will finish the season and show up in the postseason. 661 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 8: I just think these two teams, one of them will 662 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 8: represent the NFC. And I know everybody saying, what about 663 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 8: the Eagles Nate They're figuring it out? 664 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 5: Yeah they are, but you know I'm biased, Okay. 665 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: In the final fifteen seconds, the Rams walk into a 666 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: party and Seattle walks into a party. Which one are 667 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: you taking home? 668 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 5: How many drinks have I had? Because it might be both. 669 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. 670 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 5: All right man, Thank you man. You guys do an 671 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 5: awesome job. 672 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: Thank you, Bud. That's Nate Burleson.