WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #9 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:07.760 Cool Media. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:11.240 This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.560 newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.599 and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:20.079 I'm joined by James Stout and Robert Evans. You are 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.479 this week, we are covering the week of March twenty 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:25.160 to March twenty six. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.200 Short week because we did a late recording last week. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:33.400 Yep, we did, so it's it's minus one day if 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.120 my math is correct. It's been a hard week for 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.240 any of us because we all really care about group 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.440 chats and group chat security is super important, oh yeah, 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.879 to kind of anyone involved in politics, and whenever we 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.120 see a breach of this magnitude, it's really a warning 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.640 and like a threat to all of us. So it 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.560 has it has been. It has been a tough week. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.160 Yeah, Like a threat to one is a threat to all. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.200 So like that's way I see it. Any group chat 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:58.400 that gets compromised. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:02.280 First they came for whovps group, that's right. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:03.960 Next they're gonna come. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.880 Be any of us, could be any of us, Jeffrey 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.440 Goldberg could be lurking in your small group that's you 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.600 and your girlfriend talking about what kind of pizza do order? 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.640 He could be there reporting for the Atlantic. You wouldn't 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.240 know unless you like looked at who was in there 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.880 and saw his name, then you would know. Which is 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:23.720 true of all of the people in the hoothy PC 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:24.479 small group. 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.200 I guess it is actually pretty easy. You didn't know. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.480 Maybe maybe Giffrey Goldbug's signal name is like like Cia 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.200 Superspy or something, and everyone just assumed you along there. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.840 I'm gonna start at the beginning because I do assume 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.520 that actually, like as impossible as it sounds to those 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.120 of us who like wake up and imbibe fucking social 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.080 media in the morning like an addict takes their first 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.760 hit of crack cocaine, but in a way that's less 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.040 healthy for both our hearts and our brains. A decent 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.120 number of people who listen to this podcast have just 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.600 kind of like heard vaguely like some bits about this. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.600 Yeah, they're wondering what the fuck we're talking about? 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.400 What are you doing? What are you guys doing? So 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.200 we're going to talk about this group chat. So first off, 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.240 couple of basics. So Signal is an app that is 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.560 end to end encrypted. That means that if you have 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.560 signal and your buddy has signal, and you're messaging each other, 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:14.919 it's encrypted, and it is very hard at this point 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:19.240 unless one of your phones is directly compromised by a 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:23.840 nonstate actor or an x who's really good with the computers, 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.440 no one else can see what you're messaging each other. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.400 So if you and a friend are like planning what 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.280 to order on fucking grub Hub tonight when you go 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.400 play Super Smash Brothers or whatever, you can keep that secret. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.919 Or if you and a friend are planning what substances 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:39.919 to buy that the government might not want you buying, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.440 you can keep that secret. Or if you and your 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:47.040 friend simply don't want various media companies taking every detail 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.320 and phone carriers taking every detail of your life's conversations 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.680 and turning that into analytics data, you can stop them 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.119 from doing that. And if maybe one day you might 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.680 be engaged in speech that the government might not like, 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:01.959 you can continue to age in that speech privately without 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:05.440 danger or with less danger, yeah, or with with as 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.160 little danger as it is possible to do. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:12.040 Especially if your messages automatically explode after anywhere between five 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.480 seconds to one week, right, which is a feature signal has. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.160 Yes, you can automatically set it to delete stuff over 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.079 a period of time you want to. If you're going 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.360 to use it, turn off the thing where it like 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.560 pushes messages so that you can like see visible notifications. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:26.520 So yeah, not if you. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.680 Turn them off, because that's a that that'll function. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.560 Up because then your operating system can read the messages 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.240 without the encryption. Similarly, never open a QR code. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:36.040 This is the yes. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.440 Really the only way that Signal can can get compromised 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.960 on like scale right now beyond like physical infiltration right 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.320 like what accidentally happened with who the PC spell group. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.320 But the main other way. 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.320 That Signal can get compromised is through malicious QR codes 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:55.080 and unknown links. So really be careful about links as 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.320 always on the Internet, and especially be skeptical of QR codes. 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.040 Yeah, there's there's a quote from Herman Garring, I think 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:04.400 it was from Herman Gehring. When I hear the word culture, 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.240 I reach for my revolver. And I have adapted that 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:11.320 gearing quote to the modern era. When I hear QR code, 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.200 I reach for my clock nineteen. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.960 That's right. Do not use crew argots yeah, the work 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.960 of Satan. Let's explain what who these PC small group 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:22.360 is for the people. Well, I'm getting to it. So 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.000 you've got you've got this app which is normally used 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:26.920 by and has been used for a long time by 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.000 like protesters and dissidents and journalists to communicate with sources 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:34.080 because it's very secure. The Trump administration takes office, one 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.000 thing that they are annoyed about is that when you 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.000 are government employees, even if you're doing top secret shit, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.760 especially if you're doing top secret shit, the kind of 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:46.039 meetings about national security planning for like military actions that 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.239 you are supposed to only have in something called a skiff. 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.200 And a skiff is basically a room in. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.000 You know, the West Wing, I think, or the Pentagon, right, 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.000 I'm not one hundred percent sure where all the skiffs are, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.640 but it's like a room that is incredibly secure, and 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.159 it is the the only place that you are supposed 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.880 to have certain kinds of conversations. And in fact, if 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.560 you are having one of those kinds of conversations in 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.360 a skiff, no one, not even the president or the 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.000 vice president, is allowed to have a phone in there. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.080 It is a very strict rule. You don't take phones 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.919 into the skiff because none of them are fucking secure. Now, 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.920 the problem is all these communications, all of this stuff 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.800 is documented and potentially foiaable. Maybe not immediately because there's 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.440 always security concerns. They have the ability to redact stuff, 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.800 but in twenty years perhaps, but at some. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.880 Point, yeah, it might be archived even if it's not flable. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.440 People who are in charge of our military now didn't 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.000 like that and were like, hey, what if we all 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.760 just did it through a single group, and they did 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.599 to plan for an attack that started March fifteenth against 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.640 the Hoothys. Now you will remember the hoothis from the 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.839 episode James and I did. I mean from other stuff too, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:54.920 because they're all over the news. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.040 You know, the Hoothy stuff. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.400 James and I did an episode recently about it regular 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.720 naval warfare, and you check it out. That's all still 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:03.440 pretty relevant. 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.160 Better known for their other work, yeah, better. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.120 Known for their other work. The Biden administration was like, 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.960 we can probably take care of these guys with air strikes, 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.360 and it didn't really work. And the Trump administration was like, 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.159 we can do a better job of taking these guys 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.360 out with air strikes, and at this point it's too 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.240 early to say if it worked or not, but I'm 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:22.599 gonna guess probably didn't. 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.839 Probably not, just generally given the history. 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.520 Maybe they say they killed a lot more high value 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.520 targets and top missile guys. 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.000 The main missile guy quote. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:34.200 I don't know. I'm not I don't know. I'm not 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.720 privy to the information they're working off of or how 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:37.960 much it matters at this point. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:38.320 Right. 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.200 So we'll see, you know, in that signal chat, Rob, 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.560 I'm not in that signal chat they have, not accidentally. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.880 I'm in too many signal chats, frankly. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.560 Yeah, yeah, I could be, and I might not know. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.880 Ye, we all are in too many. 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:53.080 I might be in several government ones and be totally 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.440 unaware of it because there's too many notifications on my. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.120 F that shit's mute and I'm not seeing that. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.719 Yeah. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.200 So they decide we're going to plan an attack on 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.640 some Hoothi's. We're gonna be hitting them with stuff, and 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.159 we should probably all get we need to get all 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.480 of these different kind of people from different chunks of 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.120 the you know, the government together. So we got to 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.000 have JD. Vance and his representative because usually Vance is 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.160 too busy to respond, and we got to have the 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.680 Defense Secretary Pete hegg Zeth and his representative. We've got 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.560 to have the d n I Toulci Gabbard her representative. 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.680 Weve got to have the head of the CIA his 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.640 represent you know that kind of thing. There's a few more 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.160 people in there, Mark Rubio, Mark Rubio, right, Sex State, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:33.200 you know, and his representative Rvian Miller, Steven Miller. I 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.360 don't know that Miller had a representative. He feels like 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:36.960 he handles a lot of this stuff on his own, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:40.840 but yeah, on his phone too much Steven Miller. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:42.760 Yeh, chronically online Steven Miller. 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.000 Yeah, and you have you have the head of I 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.920 think Sincom was in there. Anyway. You got all these 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:51.360 people in there, and while they're setting this up, all 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:52.960 the invites are going out. Because the way you do 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.960 it with Signal is you click a button that says 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.040 like start a new group. You name the new group. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.960 In this case, they named the group HOOVPCS right, and uh, 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.240 what does PC stand for? 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.240 In this politically correct? Which, honestly I thought that we 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:06.680 were over. 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.640 Yeah, you'd think so, huh, don't Sandy slurs in the 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.800 group chat that says what. It's just a reminder. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.040 Yeah, yeah, no slurs in the small group chat. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.200 Planning committee, I'm guessing, yeah. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.320 Planning committee. Who the planning committee, small group. Sorry, I 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.400 had that written down somewhere. So they make this group 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.240 chat and they invite a bunch of people. And here's 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.160 one of the ways signal works is that, like, if 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.000 you're just importing your contacts in the signal, it'll find 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.240 the guys who have signal and it'll just like show you, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.120 based on whatever your name you have for them in 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.520 their phone right that they're on signal, and you can 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.680 just invite them. Otherwise, you can set what your signal 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.680 name is going to be, and so when people type 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.880 in your phone number or whatever, they'll see that, or 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:47.640 if you send them an invite, that's the name they'll see. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.400 And this brings us. I got to take an aside 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:51.720 to talk about a guy who is not a member 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:53.760 of the Trump administration and who is not a member 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.680 of government, a man named Jeffrey Goldberg born in nineteen 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:01.119 sixty five. He is currently the co editor of the Atlantic. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.440 Prior to this, he had what some people would call 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:08.080 an illustrious career. He grew up in Malvern and long 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.199 Eye and I'm Maulvin. Yeah, I'm looking at his wiki here, 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.000 which just has the line that his neighborhood was mainly 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.679 Catholic and he described it as a wasteland of Irish pagramists. 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:25.000 Oh he had a fun childhood, So okay, interesting, interesting 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.119 Jeffrey fascinating stuff there. Interesting. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.040 So after college or kind of while he's in college, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.080 he leaves and he goes to Israel because he wants 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.000 to serve in the IDF during the Infata, the first 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.920 one as a prison guard Jesus Christ, which is where 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:44.640 Palestinian participants in the Intefub were being held. And yeah, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.960 he he had like an interesting conversation with this PLO 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.160 leader who is also like a math teacher, who I 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.200 guess they were able to like discuss their Zionism or 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.200 whatever in some way that he found useful anyway, weird guy. 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:01.880 Not I bring this up to be like not a 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:03.199 left wing radical. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.679 Like not one of quote unquote to our guys. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.760 One of our guys. Not a guy who's probably broadly 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.640 opposed to most of and in fact to most of 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:12.920 what the Trump administration is. 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.680 Doing over especially the air strikes. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.800 Frankly, yes, now he has pissed off It's fair to 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.400 say he has really pissed off Trump a number of times, right, 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.880 because he wrote some articles. He wrote that twenty twenty 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.080 article in the Atlantic about when Trump said got caught 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.080 saying that Americans who died in wars are losers and suckers. Yes, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.400 which is you know, based on sourcing that he had. 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.600 So he's also attracted their ire. But he's again generally 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.840 I would say, like more on the bootleoker east side 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.240 of things, Like he's just kind of like a NATSEK cheerleader, right, 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:44.160 that that would be a fair way to describe Jeffrey. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.600 I don't know that he would entirely disagree with that 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.079 description of himself. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:49.920 Yeah, like a neo lobe guy. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.760 Yeah, that said, he's not so much of one that 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.480 he's unwilling to report critical stuff, which is what happens here. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.400 So he gets an invite on his phone that it 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.199 just takes him into this PC hoothy small group and 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.599 people have done the work. There's another guy in the 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.400 Trump administration whose initials are. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.200 JC John Greenbrier I believe, Yeah. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:11.480 I think it was John Greenbrier and the person who 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.080 because there was some debate initially about like who invited him, 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.560 because after this came out, there were allegations that he 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.720 snuck his way in or whatever. We now know based 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:23.800 on the evidence that he was inadvertently invited by National 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.920 Security Advisor Michael Waltz, right. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.760 As evidenced by the signal screen shot. 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.000 Yes, yes, yes, there's lots of screenshots. Jeffrey did his 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.000 you know, the job of document eventually, yes, well he 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.240 documented it right away. 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:36.559 Yes. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.400 So now here's the thing. From the beginning here, Jeffrey 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.400 is having the natural reaction. I will say this wrong 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.160 my critiques of him. He has the reaction I think 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:48.480 any minimally competent journalist would have. Someone's fucking with. 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.200 Me, Yeah, yeah, this is like something to get me. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.480 Yeah, you don't get invited into a chat with the 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.640 sect deaf and the head of the CIA planning a 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.839 military strike, right, But that just doesn't happen. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.360 I'd bit of Johna's for a while. That's not a 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.199 good to me. Yeah, that's not does not really go down. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.000 So he's like trying to figure out what the fuck's 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.880 going on. I'm like, what's happening, and he's like he's 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.120 making a note he's documenting stuff is there, and they're 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.640 talking about like weapons packages, like these are the kind 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.920 of weapons, this is where they're striking. And then as 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.880 the strikes going, they're being like this guy headed into 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.959 his girlfriend's house, we're hitting it. The house blew up. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:19.600 He's dead. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:20.240 Right. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.280 Particular exchange was very funny because the way he phrased 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:27.199 it was like it completely baffled JD Vance. Yes, let 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.400 me pull this up because it was it was pretty funny. 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:35.079 No please please uh. Michael Waltz VP full Stop building collapsed, 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:39.520 full Stop had multiple positive ID full stop, Pete Carilla, 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:45.360 the ic amazing job. JD Vance replies, what Michael Waltz 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.079 typing too fast full stop the first target, M Dash 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.360 that top missile guy, M Dash. We have positive idea 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.199 of him walking into his girlfriend's building and now it's collapsed, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.679 and then Jdvbarnes replies, excellent. At this point, Michael Waltz 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:03.439 responds with the fist emoji, American flag emoji, flame emoji. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.600 Yeah, so it's great and once it becomes very clear 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.640 what's happening, Number one, rather than stay in the group, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:13.880 see if maybe he could get invited to other groups, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:15.440 just kind of like keep track of what was going 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:19.240 on again being a guy who's like primary concern and 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.480 I really do think Goldberg's primary concern here was the 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.760 security of US soldiers, like. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.079 The national security of the United States. 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:30.360 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, as opposed to like is any 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:31.160 of this legal? 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:31.719 Are they? 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:33.880 Like what like his is just like these people are 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:38.040 not being secure like with I mean like this this 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.880 could if the wrong person got invited to a group 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.360 like this, it could potentially endanger the lives of airmen 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:45.120 and stuff. That's on my primary concern with all this, right, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:48.200 But that is his, you know. And so he hops 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.760 out of the group. He leaves, and he puts out 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:54.600 this article and he redacts most other than the what's happened, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:57.440 which is a story in and of itself. He like 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.880 goes out of his way, like there's people who are 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.920 in intelligence that are in this that he has their names, 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.520 and he's like, I am not naming them because they're 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.440 serving intelligence officers, and that's a no no. He doesn't 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.720 like specifically give up other than that this is happening 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:17.839 anything that's like particularly dangerous, right, But this is the 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.000 kind of thing as soon as it comes out obviously 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.200 it's a it's a fewer and it's unlike most of 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.920 the time when everybody gets like pissed, it seems to 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.240 like it might have some legs because it's just such 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.320 a what the buch moment, right. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.840 And it's so contrary to like so much of the 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.160 messaging coming from from the Trump administration regarding you know, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.840 like digital security, Hillary's emails. 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:41.520 Prosecuting individual soldiers for any like like you're losing a 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.440 night vision goggle. Right, it's kind of a classic. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.520 One leaking information house. 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.960 Administration is gonna gonna crack down and all information weeks, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:51.080 you know that sort of stuff. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.520 At one point, Excess says we are clear for op sec, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:54.760 which I thought was pretty funny. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.880 The funniest message in this signal group is that we're 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.560 all good on op sec. Yeah, that he's in a 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:01.840 group chat with internal. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:02.600 Yeah. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.240 Yeah, it's super funny. Yeah, everything that's happening here is 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.080 very funny. I basically want to move on to like 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.720 what's what's going to happen next, which is they are 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.320 going to try to nuke Jeffrey Goldberg, Like they're going 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.200 to try to send him to a prison, if not 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.640 a literal like El Salvadorian work camp, right, like that 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.680 that is going to be their next goal here. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.200 He embarrassed these people, like yes to an extent that 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.760 it's I mean, anyone in uniform would have been court 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.560 martialed for this kind of security fuck up. 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.760 Oh yeah, yeah, I mean in times of war in 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:35.680 the past. If like the version of this had happened 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.840 in World War Two, they would have just executed whatever 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:39.680 soldier did. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.400 This, Like, yeah, you don't have to be a spy 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.640 if you're incompetent enough to just bumble into a shit, 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.400 it's the same result. I did want to address really quickly, 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.440 like a couple of things. One, I saw this USA 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.760 Today article that was like, oh, it's so relatable that 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.960 they made this mistake of adding someone to the group chat. 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.520 That was not the mistake. The mistake was coordinating things 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.239 that should be classified. Things it should be quote unquote 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.200 side on personal devices using signal as opposed to a 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.400 state department or government issued device which doesn't have your 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.000 personal contacts to avoid all this, like a device which 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.080 is not hackable, advice which has not a bit exposed 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.560 to QR codes, for example. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:17.320 Yeah, to make sure that in your context there's not 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.800 two guys named JG. 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:20.880 Yeah, yeah, so you. 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.240 Might add the wrong JG to your Yemen bombing. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.480 Chat, haven't we all added the wrong person to a 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.000 group chat. And it's like, I mean, yeah, but I've 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:30.600 never like bombed Yemen. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:35.400 Yeah yeah, like bomb yeah yeah, it's not the same thing. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.480 It's not the same thing as a birthday party. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:40.480 Yeah, Like I have two friends named John and I 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.040 added the wrong one to a group about like planning 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:47.560 a mutual friends birthday party. But like, again, minimal damage, 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.360 yeah yeah, no no service. People's lives are put at risk. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:51.680 I did also want to point out this. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.160 At one point, Waltz says of Michael Walls, who's a 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.520 national security advisor. Yeah, not not the other one. Yeah, 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.560 that would be pretty funny. They have him as well. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:02.160 He was just in there. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.240 It seems in the ground, like to shoot. 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.480 Parent friends with JD vans wouldn't be so. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.399 One of the things Wolf says which is bizarre is 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.719 that like European navies are incapable of defeating hoothy weapons systems. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.359 It just isn't true. Like there was a coalition of 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.480 twenty different states running operations in the rest he last year. 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.120 And against like France has a navy, like they've got 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.200 a nuclear submarines they could in the world. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.560 To cite one example, HMS Diamond, which is a British ship, 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.960 shot down a Hoothy missile last year. The UK also 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.320 struck Houthy targets last year. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.879 Yeah, I've watched the UK carry out air strikes. 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:48.399 I've like they're very capable. Look what the Iranian what 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.919 the Houthis have is Iranian three fifty eights to just 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:53.040 get really nerdy for a second, right, which are not 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.119 really a threat to modern fighter aircraft. It's like a 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:56.080 loitering munition. 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:57.200 Maybe a drone. 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:02.040 Yeah, but no, no like aircraft, not a manned or 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:03.439 personed aircraft. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.280 The primary point of like how the Hoothies are conducting 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:07.960 their strikes is not we're going to knock all of 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.439 these ships out of the sea. It's it will It 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.760 will create an unsustainable insurance situation for a lot of merchants. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.480 If there's just always kind of missiles, even if we 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.800 never really or almost never hit anybody, that doesn't really matter. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:22.960 You got to deal with the insurance thing. 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.800 Yeah, they're going to make that much and more expensive, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.879 and that that particular part of global trade much more 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.520 difficult to conduct. So far, the Trump administration has doubled 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.800 down in its response. This is pretty funny karn Levitt 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.159 on Twitter X, I guess called Goldberg. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:42.359 She's the White House Press secretary. I believe press. 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:45.120 That's correct. Yeah, why has press secretory? She called Goldberg 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.639 a quote Trump hater and also claimed the story was 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.479 a quote hoax and a quote sensationalist spin. They are 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:55.600 also right now claiming that quote war plans and quote 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.840 attack plans are different things. The information they lead to 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:03.080 was too specific to constitute a war plan. Both of 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.919 these things are kind of ludicrous claims, right, very clearly, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.560 this is stuff that should be classified very clearly. It's 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.800 stuff that put those people's lives at risk in the 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.080 event that the whoth he's had any means to respond 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.400 to like F eighteen's, which I don't think they do 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:20.359 really now. But you know, Iran, who absolutely is a 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.879 state backer of the who he's, does have the ability, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.840 at least in theory. They they kind of haven't. They've 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.920 kind of shown their ass a bit in the last 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.120 year or two with Israeli strikes in a run. 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.600 Yeah, it's not the ability to like easily interdict these 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.239 kinds of strikes, but certainly the ability to and more 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.720 importantly kind of the ability to survive them, to like 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.119 mitigate the damage that they can do. 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.439 Sure, sure to go underground or go somewhere else, and 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.960 like those planes are vulnerable when they're like certain points 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.040 in their trajectory, I think. So, you know, yeah, it's 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.800 generally very poor to broad to broadcast exactly what you're doing, when, 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:51.360 where and how. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.800 It's kind of just a basic of like military stuff 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.560 that you really don't want people to know exactly when 0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.280 you're sending dudes in to do what. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:19:59.960 Yah. 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:04.400 Yeah, there was a very funny meme going around which 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.159 basically had like imagined if the same discussion had been 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.800 had about D Day in nineteen forty four, And yeah, 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:12.639 that wouldn't have gone so well if they had brought 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:14.879 a lot of great posts. I'm looking at one by 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:19.040 Katie and Autopolis on Twitter right now. Having read through 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.320 the full Hoothy PC small group logs, I've come to 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.280 the sad realization that I'm the Jdvans of my group chats, 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.000 overly emotional, slightly and professional, confused by what everyone else 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.280 is saying because I won't scroll up continually derail's plans 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:32.160 with later jactions. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.280 So good, that's so good. 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:37.520 It is that is that is really funny. 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:42.680 That is brutal. Yeah, it is interesting to see their dynamics. 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.280 It's interesting to see kind of Stephen Miller seemed to 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:48.960 have the decisive word on let's go ahead with ye Miller, Oh, yeah, 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:50.560 speaking directly for the president. 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.440 That's what's interesting is no one ever says the president 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.560 has approved this, the President has said do this, Like 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.080 Miller says something along the lines of like, we're going 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.320 forward with this or I've been told we're going forward 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.520 with this, yeah, which is again not in terms of 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:06.360 like it's a very Hitler way of doing things right, right, 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:08.160 Like there's this I talk about this in the show. 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:11.160 There's this decades long debate about like the Hitler literally 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.199 order the Holocaust or did he just kind of like 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.840 keep making it clear to people that if they kept 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.879 moving in a more holocausty direction that would. 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.880 Like endear them to him. 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.000 Aspects of both are true, but like, yeah, this is 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.440 definitely kind of example of that ladder thing where Trump 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:30.360 is probably like, yeah, somebody should probably fuck up those hoothies. 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:31.440 And then Steven. 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.040 Miller goes like, yeah, Trump said, you know, we're good, 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.560 keep moving forward. But he's also Miller's not dumb. He's 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.800 not gonna say Trump he's been doing this. He's gonna say. 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.000 He's been delegating so much more than his first term, 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:44.320 to the point where his presidency is just projecting a 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.640 certain vibe that then other people have to carry out 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:48.840 all of the details for it. 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:52.160 Yeah. This is very similar to the Hitler regimes. 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.560 Yeah, yeah, there is a term for this at the 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:56.639 time in the third reck. It's called working towards the 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:59.639 Fueryka right where you're not going to get direct guidelines, 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.880 your supposed to figure out what he wants and move 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:02.640 closer to it. 0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:05.960 Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, No, that's kind of been his 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:07.399 new governing style. 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.080 It's a lot smarter in terms of like just like. 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.520 You know, getting documents to sign and then projects certain 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.960 certain like slogans or vibes that then everyone who works 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:18.800 under him, which is at this point's maybe like roughly 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.919 twutored people tops have to all like figure out to 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:25.080 like how to enact this thing that they think he wants. 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:29.119 Yeah, Like, even to the extent that he himself was 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.240 saying he didn't sign the evocation of the Alien Enemies 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.440 Act that Rubio did. Yeah, his signatures on it in 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:37.280 the federal record. But clearly it's kind of a Rubio 0:22:37.440 --> 0:22:40.040 or it seems from that it's a Rubio concoction that 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.880 he just greenlit. Just a quote from Miller in case 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:45.280 anyone's wondering exactly what he said. As I heard it, 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.200 the President was clear colon green light, but we soon 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.240 make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return. 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.840 So yeah, it's he never he never specifically says the 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:58.919 President has okayed this, But yeah, that's obviously people in 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:03.520 Europe really pissed. I've seen some statements from government ministers 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.520 in the United Kingdom like the sort of maligning of 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.080 Europe and its military powers is obviously going to piss 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.480 those people off. Talking of pissing people off, should we 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:13.480 pivot to advertisements. 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.120 We should, which does not piss me off. It makes 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.520 me really happy to consume. 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.439 Garrison personal consumes all the products and services that support 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:21.720 this show. 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:22.720 Yeah, that's definitely not true. 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.720 It's the only thing that Garrison concerns, which is why 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:27.680 they have Polegra. 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.920 I don't know what that is, but sure, here's here's 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:44.040 the ads. All right, we are so bad? 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.520 Mm hmmm, yeah, what's rending my auditions? 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:48.640 James? 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:55.400 Yeah, okay, I'll just start so very amusingly is that's 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:59.480 probably concerningly for him. Judge Boseberg, the same person who 0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:03.399 issued a restraining order against the Trump administration for the 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.680 rendition of people to Venezuela, has also been assigned the 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:11.200 signal lawsuit American Obsite versus HeiG Seth. So that guy 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.280 that the one who Trump already called for his impeachment 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.520 right has another crucial case in front of him. What 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.760 the Trump administration has done in the court case pertaining 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:24.000 to the rendition of people to El Salvador is invoked 0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.359 the state secrets privilege in court. Very ironic or very 0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.760 very ironic. They're talking about state secrets now, having just 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.320 added Jeff Goldberg to the group yet, But that's what 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.600 they have done. You can go back last week to 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.400 understand sort of a bit more about where that's coming from. 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:39.440 If you didn't listen to last week's. 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:40.800 Yeah we did, we did a whole episode on it 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:41.439 last week. Ye. 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.640 It's also continuing to claim that it didn't quote unquote 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.800 remove migrants after the tepative restraining order was issued because 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.680 they'd already been removed. The removal happened when they were 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.760 loaded onto the plane. Is this argument concurrectly with this 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:57.520 as a panel hearing? So that's a panel of three 0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.359 judges right which the government is appeal the attentive restraining order. 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:05.080 During this hearings, CAULLT Judge Patricia Millet said, quote, the 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:09.000 Nazis received better treatment under their Alien Enemies Act than 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:12.480 these Venezuelan migrants. Which is true. The Nazis had hearings 0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:14.440 in the nineteen thirties and they didn't just get loaded 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.280 onto play in the central work camp. Not a great 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.320 reflection and where we're at. The Trump administration is trying 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:24.040 to challenge the jurisdiction of Bozburg, saying that they should 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:28.080 have filed the same claim in Texas. Meanwhile, Thenezuelan government 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:32.040 thirties are filing a colegal claim in El Salvador to 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.480 deliberate their citizens from SECOD. It's worth noting, of course, 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.119 that these people, some of them, have been tortured by 0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:41.360 the Venezuelan government right and chose to flee at no 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.000 small risk to their lives, Like if people haven't listened 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:45.359 to some of our older stuff, like I've been to 0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.159 the Darien Gap, which is the way that the vast 0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.080 majority of Venezuelan migrants come. You can listen to my 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:52.880 episodes about that if you will know more about why 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:56.639 people are leaving Venezuela. We have a little more information 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.840 on some of the people detained. One of them is 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.679 a makeup artist who's a gay man who was beaten 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:06.440 by guards as a US photojournalist. Watch. Another one, the 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.359 Miami Herald is reporting, had been granted legal refugee status, 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.879 So it seems that they sort of randomly grabbed tattooed Venezuelan's. 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:18.600 Some of these people have been through background checks already, 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.359 right at which they will have disclosed their tattoos. That's 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.560 one of the things that they'll be asked about, and 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:26.200 they would have disclosed those. So whether they control left 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:28.919 it or quite how they came across these people as 0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.560 to a little bit unclear. A couple of other things 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.440 regarding to immigration enforcement this week that have come across 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.680 my radar but probably don't merit a whole episode. It's 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.600 been reported that the IRS is close to an agreement 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.440 to hand over the tax records of undocumented people. It's 0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.840 claimed for decades if it won't do this. This is 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.400 why most documented people pay taxes, right, yeah. 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.479 Which is something that the conservative is just like don't believe. 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.320 Yes, so like all these undocumented immigrants are aren't paying 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.880 taxes like the rest of us, Like no, actually they are. 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.760 What they're not doing is receiving benefits from those taxes. 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.960 Yeah, and yes, and this is a great way to 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.280 have people want to pay less taxes if they're gonna 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.320 get their information sent over to like the Gestapo, Like. 0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.560 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The whole point was to not provide 0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:16.320 a distance. This is similar to why California gives driver's 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.679 licenses to undocumented people and allows them to ensure vehicles, right, 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.200 because you don't want to provide a disincentive to have 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.440 a driver's license, you don't want to provide a disincentive 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.280 to have insurance. We have now provided a disincentive to 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.600 pay your taxes for undocumented people. So yeah, that will 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.040 have consequences, and it will have consequences, especially in industries 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:36.359 right like agriculture and construction, and my large numbers of 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:40.879 people tend to be undocumented. Talking of undocumented migration, the 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.520 COMMA secretary Howard Lutnik reports it. He said it's on 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.360 the All In podcast. He has claimed to have already 0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.119 sold one thousand gold cards. So gold cards. If you 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:52.800 didn't listen to our previous. 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:54.919 Oh, I feel like I thought, I'm getting dizzy. 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.680 I'm just like, yeah, I am all yeah. 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.159 Yeah. There is no pro for applying for receiving a 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.399 gold card yet, so it's extremely unclear what this means 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:06.560 in immigration law terms. 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:10.480 So he just got like a thousand texts from millionaires 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:12.520 being like, yeah, I'll buy one maybe, Like. 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.680 Yeah, well multimillionaires five million each, right, like so yeah, 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.200 apparently not quite clear, Like and like he claims that 0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.600 he sold them, Like is he going around shopping these around? 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:23.479 Is this how they're going to replace a tax revenue 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.720 from undocumented people? Like oh my god, No one knows, no, 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.320 no one knows what this means. Who do you pay? 0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:35.760 Like very unclear? So yeah, that's great that that is 0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:40.280 that it's the current situation with immigration. I also wanted 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.640 to add at least three people who were aware of 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.000 died in San Diego County on the fourteenth of March 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:48.520 in a storm while crossing the border. One young woman 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:52.320 who survived was found next to the remains of her father, 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:55.440 who died of exposure in a winter storm out here. 0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.800 So yeah, the border continues to be doing violence to 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.520 say of the most martinized people alive, which is great. 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:07.440 We should pop in here. A story just dropped. Michael Waltz, 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:11.560 the National Security advisor who invited Jeffrey to that group 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:16.520 chat journalists have found his public venmo every time with 0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:25.200 the quote, unquote it's full of journalists. I'm just gonna 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:27.920 read a quote from an article on Prospect dot org. 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:28.520 Yeah. 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.120 Unsurprisingly, Fox News holds the highest headcount for reporters in 0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.760 Mike Waltz's phone. Griff Jenkins, who's Fox dot com bio 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.240 listen as a Washington based national correspondent for Fox, is 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:40.800 joining the list by Brian Kilmead, co host of Fox 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.480 and Friends. Porter Berry, President and editor of Fox Digital, 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.960 also made the gut But what right wing reporters are 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.840 not the only ones represented in Waltz's venmo list, which 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.280 appears to be less than clean on obsec as Secretary 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.800 of Defense Heggsceth throat Leland Vintert, a national correspondent for 0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:58.520 News Nation, is also listed on the digital account, as 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.760 is Breonna Keeler, American journalist who currently serves as co 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.080 anchor of the afternoon edition of CNN News Central. Lauren 0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.800 pike Off, an executive producer at MSNBC, is also in 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:11.480 Wallas's contacts. Earlier this year, Trump tweeted about the network, Wow, 0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.440 Rachel Maddow has horrible ratings. She'll be off the air soon. 0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.760 But amidst the broadcasters, producers, and talking heads, one name 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.840 stands out from the crowd. Judith Miller, who was summarily 0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:22.880 fired from The New York Times after it was revealed 0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:25.680 that her reporting on the Iraq war was categorically false 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.720 and obtained almost verbatim from Vice President Dick Cheney. Her 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.000 dismissal was the price paid for cozying up too close 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:35.320 to an administration set on war. It's just like, okay, 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.120 we don't check any of this, we haven't locked anything down. 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.480 Good having your public venmo itself is crazy. The fact 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.080 that he's like the fact that he's like getting like 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.880 dinner with journalists to be like, I'll I'll send you 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.400 a Venmo requests for this sushi. 0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:52.240 Oh man. 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.520 They've downloaded his entire friends list and you can just scroll. 0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.080 Yeah, I know you can see everybody. 0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.920 Oh my god, he said to get like a fifteen 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.959 dollar venmo requests from Bryan Kilmeade for getting drinks at 0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.360 a bar, Like, what are we doing? 0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.480 What are we doing? Yeah? Oh so yeah, how well 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.280 these people make hundreds of thousands, if not millions, two 0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.800 dollars you it makes so much money bucks. Yeah, yeah, 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:16.400 it's just one drink in DC. 0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:18.840 So funny. Oh my god. 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.160 Now I think it's time, folks that we take a 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:27.840 little bit of a detour and talk about tariffs. 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:40.360 Sorry, locking Jasp, rocking jazz botry, locking, locking. 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:46.120 J locking Jasp. Oh my god, I love playing that song. 0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.640 I love playing that song. We don't actually have anything 0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.520 to say about tariffs. MIA's not here. I will note 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.040 there's a graph going around about the potential cost of 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.480 Guinness under Trump's tax plan, which is usually around seven 0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.160 dollars per pint in the US, and we'll now I'll 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.920 be twenty two to twenty seven dollars after Trump's you know, 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.840 new new tariffs for imported alcohol that. 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.480 Reflects its true value. Because it's also yes. 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:12.680 Yes, absolutely, anyway, We're done. That's all I have to 0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:13.440 say on tariffs. 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.440 As long as the twisted tea pricing doesn't get affected, 0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.040 I'll be fine. Then that's good. 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.480 Good long I comment. 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:23.160 Now. 0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.280 In some more upsetting news, another student at Columbia has 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:31.640 been forced into hiding as ICE targets her for deportation. 0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.680 Unsouchung is a twenty one year old permanent resident who 0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.040 immigrated to the United States from Korea with her family 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.240 when she was seven. On March ninth, she'd received a 0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:46.280 text message from Homeland Security Investigations reading, Hyensau, this is 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.600 Audrey from the police. My job is to reach out 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.120 to you and see if you have any questions about 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.800 your recent arrest and the process going forward. 0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:56.760 What are you available for a phone call? 0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.880 So this this message was allegedly friends to being arrested, 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.880 among others at a recent sit in protest at Bernard 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.960 College at Columbia. She was charged and then released with 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:11.840 misdemeanor obstruction. So after receiving that like sketchy text, right, 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.120 something that you should never never respond to, you should 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.880 immediately send to your lawyer. But after receiving this text, 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.840 Chung got an email from Columbia Public Safety reading quote 0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:24.520 the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New 0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:27.480 York has asked us to inform you that Homeland Security 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.400 Investigation agents are seeking to make contact with you in 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:34.240 connection with an administrative warrant for your arrest. Consistent with 0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:37.880 university's practice, we wanted to share this information and their 0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.560 request with you. If you are represented by counsel, it 0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:42.600 may make sense for your lawyer to speak directly with 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:47.080 DHS now. That same day, ICE agents showed up at 0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.120 the home of Chunk's parents, and Chung's lawyer called quote 0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.800 unquote to Audrey from the police, who revealed she was 0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.040 actually an ICE agent and stated that there was an 0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.440 administrative warrant for her arrest and that the State Department 0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.760 can revoke Miss Chung's residency status. Yes, we're going to 0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:05.240 talk more about what's happened with miss Chung after this 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:05.840 at break. 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:18.640 All right, we're back. 0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.160 So, when ICE failed to locate this Columbia University student, 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:28.200 they started to enlist the help of federal prosecutors. I'm 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.479 going to quote from the New York Times who broke 0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:34.080 this story. Quote on March tenth, Perry Carbone, a high 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.400 ranking lawyer in the federal Prosecutor's office, told miss Amaud 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.280 Miss Chung's attorney that the Secretary of State Mark Rubio 0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:45.560 had revoked Miss Chung's visa. Miss Amad responded that Miss 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:47.920 Chung was not in the country on a visa and 0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.480 was a permanent resident, according to the lawsuit. Miss Carbone 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:56.240 responded that mister Rubio had quote revoked that as well unquote. 0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:02.000 So this similar to like a Mahmudkali like demonstrats that 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.200 like they have no idea of the of the actual 0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.600 residency status of the people that they are going after. 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.520 They are just going after non citizens and may eventually 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:13.000 start going after citizens too. Like they're just going after 0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.040 people that they assume have like the least amount of protections, 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.200 whether that's a Green card holder, whether that's someone on 0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.479 a student visa or a work visa. They don't really 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.400 know going in there. They're just going after people. Then, 0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.920 on March thirteenth, ICE searched two residences on campus with warrants, 0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.799 citing a statute for harboring non citizens. The Trump administration 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.200 is arguing that Chung's presence in the United States hinders 0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:41.799 the administration's foreign policy agenda. One twenty one year old 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.080 student who was the valve victorian at her high school 0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:48.160 is hindering their foreign policy agenda for attending a sit 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:52.120 in protest. Her lawyers note that Chung was not, by 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:56.040 any means like a movement leader. She was simply one 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.360 of hundreds of students who joined in in nationwide protests 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.879 against Israel's actions in Gaza. Her lawyer's right quote, Miss 0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.000 Chung has not made any public statements to the press 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.600 or otherwise assumed a high profile role in these protests. 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.600 She was rather one of a large group of college 0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:16.920 students raising, expressing, and discussing shared concerns. Chung herself had 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.799 previously faced a university disciplinary process, which found that Chung 0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.520 was not in violation of any university policy. So in 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.920 response to the actions of ICE on Homeland Security to 0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:30.040 try to locate and deport her, Chung went into hiding. 0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.720 Her whereabouts are still unknown as the time of recording, 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:36.239 and her lawyers fouled a lawsuit to prevent her deportation, 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.600 claiming that ICE actions against Chung are illegal and unconstitutional. 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.920 The lawsuit reads quote officials that the highest echalons a 0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.880 government are attempting to use immigration enforcement as a bludgeon 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.480 to suppress speech that they dislike, including Miss Chung's speech. 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:53.360 ICE's shocking actions against Miss Chung form part of a 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:57.320 larger pattern of attempted US government repression of constitutionally protected 0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:02.400 protest activity and other forms of speech. Now, this past Tuesday, 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:06.400 a federal judge granted a temporary restraining order halting efforts 0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:10.200 from ICE to detain or relocate Chung. The judge said 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:13.120 that there is quote nothing in the record indicating that 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:15.480 Chung is a danger to the community or a quote 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:19.800 unquote foreign policy risk, or that she is communicated with 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.320 terrorist organizations. The judge said that there would be quote 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:27.720 no trips to Louisiana here, quote, referring to the movement 0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:32.440 of Khalil to ICE attention in Louisiana. A DHS statement 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:35.920 said that ICE is going to quote investigate individuals engage 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.720 in activities in support of hamas a foreign terrorist organization unquote. 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.719 The statement also claimed that Chung would have an opportunity 0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.200 to present her case before an immigration judge, which is 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:51.560 like contrary to incidence of ICE just deporting people before 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.279 they're legally required hearings, even like in defiance of like 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:59.239 extra court orders mandating those hearings, Like ICE is just 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:01.880 lying here and I think it's worth pointing out, like 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.440 what types of people they are going after right now. 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:07.120 One type of person that ICE is going after is 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.080 like non citizens who were arrested at protests, regardless of 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:11.680 what they actually did. 0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:11.880 Right. 0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.759 This can be anything from standing in the street to 0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.080 doing a sit in protest to just like being arrested 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.480 on campus and removed by campus police or NYPD, right, like, 0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:24.360 just just any arrest like on record that shows you 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:25.640 at one of these protests. 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:26.040 Yeah. 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.840 The other in the cases like Khalil, like he was 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:32.160 never arrested. He was the subject of a mass doxing 0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:36.640 campaign by other students at Columbia, professors and other you know, 0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:41.120 quote unquote anti Semitism organizations which target high profile activists 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.520 to create like public pressure against them, and those same 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.080 lists are now being used by the Trump administration to 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:48.200 target students. 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:53.080 Yeah, Pita had one, right, Beta, the ultra Zionist people 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:56.160 who are going around like attempting to fucking present people 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.400 with pages, I think they were one of the groups 0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:01.440 that had created like a quote unquote depote list. So 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:04.799 we should just mention that a tough student, romeaser Oz Turk, 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.560 was essentially abducted on her way to university. Right, there's 0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.680 video which will link in the show notes here, very 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.760 very frightening video of her just standing on the sidewalk. 0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.000 As first one man approaches her in like a in 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.920 like a like a navy hoodie, put mask on his face, 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.319 approaches her, stops her. 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.440 And then as soon as they start engaging in conversation, 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.280 she gets surrounded by like five other people, all wearing 0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.040 like what I would describe as like a gray man 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.680 block essentially that they then like pull out badges and 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.200 they like detain her. And it's interesting like as they approach, 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.680 most of these people are unmasked, and then as soon 0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.719 as people realize what's happening, like like like people in 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.120 the neighborhood it realize what's happening, they all start pulling 0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:46.759 up like a like half faced mask like gators. 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:47.400 Yeah, gators. 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:47.719 Yeah. 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:48.000 Yeah. 0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.680 They looked to me more like than anything the way 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:55.279 prowdboys dressed a lot in like Jordany in nineteen twenty twenty. Yeah, 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:56.440 it's yeah, like. 0:39:56.680 --> 0:40:00.520 Like it's extremely concerning, Like yes, when you you start 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.719 seeing at these people mass people snatching people off the street. Right, 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.759 she asked if she asked if she can call the 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.799 cops and they say, we are the police. It looks 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.360 like her phone falls out of her hand at some 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.640 point they take her bag. We know this because it 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.200 seems like somebody was filming from a building just above, 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.200 and you can hear that people say like why are 0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:20.520 you covering your person? 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:21.560 Saying why are you wearing masks? 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:22.640 Why are you covering your faces? 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.239 Yeah, yeah, the guy, the guy filming, is like doing 0:40:25.520 --> 0:40:27.239 about what he can, given the fact that you have 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.680 to assume he had no real idea what was happening 0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.920 initially other than like something visibly fucked up, Like I'm 0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:35.840 glad he said the things that he said. 0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:39.400 But yeah, so yeah, she's a Turkish citizen who is 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:44.359 in the States on a student visa in Boston, Massachusetts 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.520 or outside Boston, Massachusetts. 0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.880 Yeah, she's on a F one visa. So just a 0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.040 couple of dates to a few days before she was seized, 0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:56.120 she was like Her name was published by Canary Mission Right. 0:40:56.360 --> 0:41:00.400 Canary Mission is a desionist group that has been boxing 0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:04.400 for Palestine or anti genocide people for several years now. 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:08.320 She had co edited an op ed in the Toughest 0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:10.120 Daily last year. It seems to be how they were 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.640 able to identify her. But as Garrison said, right like, 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.080 in terms of how they're picking their targets right now, 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.560 it seems to be heavily tied disease vigil anti Zionists, 0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:22.839 far right groups. I did see that a judge has 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.360 already ruled that she shouldn't be left, she shouldn't be 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.680 removed from Massachusetts without further consultation with that judge. 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.640 And we don't know if she has been or not already. 0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:32.680 But this is this is continuing to happen, right. We 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:33.960 talked about it this last week. 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.400 I'm going to do a whole episode next week about this, 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:37.799 about this issue. 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:41.279 She is in Louisiana. Sorry, update, she has already been 0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.120 moved to Louisiana. Yeah, so I'm just reading a truth 0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:46.800 out piece here. Officials initially did not specify wells have 0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:49.160 been taken and Canarbi it's her lawyer was unable to 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.640 reach her. Later on Wednesday, Hanabis said an emotion that 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:55.000 she was informed by a senator's office that the student 0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:56.719 was already transferred to Louisiana. 0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.360 It's like in a matter of hours they worked to 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.120 get her like outside of yeah, her like home state 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.480 or she probably has more legal protections. 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:07.520 Yeah, it's not something that's super uncommon. I've seen them 0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.120 do this with what they called lateral transfers under Title 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:14.440 forty two, where they would move people. Under Title forty two, 0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.560 they can immediately return people to Mexico, right, And what 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:19.240 they would do is laterally transfer them along the border 0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:22.640 and return them to another location in Mexico, which obviously 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:25.600 led to them being completely dislocated when they were dropped 0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:26.160 in Mexico. 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:28.480 Something else that I want to note is the use 0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:32.239 of this harboring non citizens warrant. Like, one problem that 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.479 ICE can run into often is that people can choose 0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.320 just to not answer the door. I usually likes to 0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.400 rely on people that have already been arrested or already 0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.600 detained by like police. Right, that makes it much easier 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:45.359 for immigration officials to find people. Without that, locating people 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.520 can be a little bit harder. With the use of 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.560 this like harboring non citizens warrant, that shows like there's 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:52.720 trying to create this precedent for being able to actually 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.360 break into more people's homes even though you know she 0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.239 had a permanent resident status. This is just like in 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.680 terms of the tactic being used, similar to like you 0:43:01.760 --> 0:43:04.520 know this all these like gray Man block people approaching 0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.640 you on the street one by one. That's like a 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.600 tactic to take note of. The use of this type 0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:13.560 of warrant is also something to take note of. We 0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:15.719 are already at that point where people are like are 0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:20.359 like going into hiding. Right, This is like very very 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.279 like dystopian ya coded stuff where you're like you are 0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:26.280 literally as like as a twenty one year old like junior, 0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:31.319 being forced to go into hiding because federal agents are 0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:35.160 after you because you sat down. Yeah, you sat down 0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.560 in front of a building in protest of a genocide. 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.880 You're a You're not even a movement leader, and this 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.080 this type of thing shouldn't even happen to quote unquote 0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:42.680 movement leaders. 0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:46.040 Right, Yeah, there's the very First Amendment protects your right 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:46.880 to do that exactly. 0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:47.120 Yeah. 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:49.840 But like regardless of whether or not you're involved in 0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:52.680 like the planning the organization, whether or not you're making 0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:55.280 statements depressed, whether or not you're you're you're giving speeches, 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.960 if you just attend these sorts of things, you are 0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:02.080 you are a target by what is like very obviously 0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:05.600 a modern version of like gestopo like actions. 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:09.040 Yeah, I think it's also quite revealing that she's somewhat 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:11.879 successfully gone into hiding, right, Like it suggests that, yeah, 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.480 their intelligent operation is not sordvioleance that they were able 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:15.520 to immediately find her. 0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.680 Well, No, because again, the resources to do stuff like 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:22.600 trace somebody down by their shoes from like surveillance camera 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:25.520 footage exists. We saw it used on those lawyers who 0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:29.880 let police vehicle fire twenty twenty. But like, there's not 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.279 really much in the way a crime's going on here. 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.120 And there also there's so many of these people, Like 0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.400 the idea that you would you would pull all of 0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:40.400 the footage that you would need to track every one 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.120 of these, it's just it's just not feasible. 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.520 Yeah, and I think they'll just go off to someone 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.360 else right to get the headlined. But I'll be following 0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:50.480 this one with interest because it's sort of it's sort 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.839 of an alternative outcome to the other ones that we've 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:56.399 seen so far, So it'd just be revelatory to see 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.880 how it goes. 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It 0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:33.160 does take time for us to go through all of them. 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.480 Not all of them will have a response, but we 0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:36.440 are reading them. 0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:36.759 Thank you. 0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.640 I am still working on a piece in the Lavender scare. 0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.960 There's a lot of stuff happening regarding, you know, suppressing 0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:48.160 and going after trans people in the military. This takes time, 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.759 but we are working on that slowly but surely, as 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:56.000 well as stuff regarding ice targeting students and what's going 0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.520 on in Columbia, so we appreciate that. The last thing 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:02.400 I want to talk about is this past Monday, the 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:06.640 IDF killed two Palistinian journalists in Gaza in separate air strikes. 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:10.960 Mohammad Mansour, who works for Palestine Today, was killed quote 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.440 in his house in southern Gaza, alongside his wife and 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:16.680 his son without any prior warning. According to al Jazeira. 0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.279 Later that day, the IDF killed a twenty three year 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:24.040 old Palestinian journalist, Hassam Shabbat, in a targeted airstrike while 0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.520 he was driving his car in northern Gaza. I want 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:31.640 to read this statement from Hassam quote. If you're reading this, 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.279 it means I have been killed, most likely targeted by 0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.239 the Israeli occupation forces. When all this began, I was 0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.760 only twenty one years old, a college student with dreams 0:46:39.840 --> 0:46:42.280 like anyone else. For the past eighteen months, I've dedicated 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.719 every moment of my life to my people. I documented 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:47.440 the horrors in northern Gaza, minute by minute, determined to 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.120 show the world the truth they tried to bury. I 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:54.000 slept on pavements, in schools, intents, anywhere I could. Each 0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:57.280 day was a battle for survival. I endured hunger for months, 0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.880 yet I never left my people's side. God, I fulfilled 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.320 my duty as a journalist. I risked everything to report 0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:06.920 the truth, and now I am finally at rest, something 0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:10.200 I haven't known in the past eighteen months. 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