Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. It's time for Buccaneers Insider Live, presented
Speaker 1: by Miller like Casey Phillips and Scott Smith. Here, it's
Speaker 1: been about a week since our last time we got
Speaker 1: to go live with everybody. We had been doing it
Speaker 1: for several weeks out there at camp. Now we're back
Speaker 1: to our sort of normal insider format. And man, since
Speaker 1: that last time we talked, there has been a lot
Speaker 1: that has happened, a lot to go over. We have
Speaker 1: cut down the roster to fifty three, we have built
Speaker 1: a practice squad, we have signed some new interesting additions.
Speaker 1: So I don't even know where to start. There's so
Speaker 1: many different options. But while we give you guys a
Speaker 1: chance to submit your questions on the Facebook page, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take some of those later on. As we start
Speaker 1: talking about some of these developments over the last week,
Speaker 1: why don't we just go first of all with the
Speaker 1: cutdowns and who made the fifty three and some of
Speaker 1: your initial reactions to that. Well, there in a ton
Speaker 1: of surprises. I mean since last Tuesday, I guess you
Speaker 1: could say there were some surprising developments. We have another
Speaker 1: quarterback in the house that people would recognize, and Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen on the practice squad. We have enough. He was
Speaker 1: the tenth overall pick in two thousand eighteen. We have
Speaker 1: another running back that people would recognize in that room,
Speaker 1: and Leonard four Nette, he was the fourth overall pick
Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen. We have a new kicker. In fact,
Speaker 1: we have two new kickers if you count the practice squad,
Speaker 1: neither of whom were here when we last spoke. I
Speaker 1: guess actually Ryan suck Up was just arriving last time
Speaker 1: we talked. He got the job over Matt gay Uh,
Speaker 1: and then we brought in Greg Joseph, who actually, coincidentally,
Speaker 1: last year, Ryan suck Up, after he'd never missed a
Speaker 1: game before and over four years or five previous years
Speaker 1: in Tennessee, was kicking at about which is very very good,
Speaker 1: even at a stretch where he made an NFL record
Speaker 1: fifty six straight kicks from inside the fifty, which is
Speaker 1: pretty amazing field goals. But last year he started out
Speaker 1: on injury reserve of the knee issue they tried to
Speaker 1: bring back because they wasn't going well with their other
Speaker 1: kickers in Tennessee, and um, he obviously wasn't ready to
Speaker 1: go yet only made one of six, and so they
Speaker 1: had to put him back on I R and they
Speaker 1: brought in Greg Joseph, who did well for them. He
Speaker 1: amazingly over five games, including the postseason, he had eighteen
Speaker 1: extra point attempts in one field goal, which is really
Speaker 1: weird for a five game stretch, but they were The
Speaker 1: Tennessee office was just going ballistic at that time with
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and they're scoring touchdowns and not needing field goals.
Speaker 1: But he made all of them. So it's obviously a
Speaker 1: different sort of year. You've got to be prepared. So
Speaker 1: having kickers on your practice squad is not something you're
Speaker 1: used to, but uh, it's a thing I think most
Speaker 1: teams were doing this year, Uh, putting another kicker on
Speaker 1: the practice squad in case something would have happened late
Speaker 1: in the week, Especially since COVID's a possibility, you want
Speaker 1: to have another kicker ready to go. So it's an
Speaker 1: unusual year. But as for the cuts themselves, that weren't
Speaker 1: a ton of surprises. Okay, And then we had a
Speaker 1: question and we also released a depth chart. We didn't
Speaker 1: even bring that up. Of all the things that have
Speaker 1: happened and related to that, East I how good does
Speaker 1: it mean Winfield is that he's already been listed as
Speaker 1: a starter at this Yeah, that's that's an interesting thing.
Speaker 1: And um, it wasn't clear during during the entire camp
Speaker 1: that he would be starting. Mike Edwards was getting a
Speaker 1: lot of action as the first next to Jordan Whitehead
Speaker 1: on the first team, and uh, you kind of got
Speaker 1: the feeling that they loved Winfield but maybe it would
Speaker 1: be eased in, but I guess not. And uh, coach yesterday,
Speaker 1: Coach Arean said about it is the issue is he's
Speaker 1: just making plays every day. He's always around the football,
Speaker 1: And I think what it is is they just they
Speaker 1: just can't wait to get this kid on the field.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to delay it. I still think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see more than two safeties in action in most weeks.
Speaker 1: There'll be some packages that used three of them at once, potentially,
Speaker 1: especially because Winfield has cross trained and Kim played in
Speaker 1: the slot corner as well, which is pretty amazing. And obviously, um,
Speaker 1: we had some technical difficulties and got off to a
Speaker 1: little bit of a slow start here today. And what
Speaker 1: I was doing in that time when we were waiting
Speaker 1: was I was researching how often our first and second
Speaker 1: picks in the draft were in the starting lineup on
Speaker 1: opening day, which is if if the depth chart is fouled,
Speaker 1: you never know. It hasn't happened yet. Maybe they started
Speaker 1: a different package or something. But if the depth chart
Speaker 1: is fouled, now first round pick Tristan Wars Will start
Speaker 1: a right tackle and Antoine Winfield Jr. Will Start at safety.
Speaker 1: And how often do you think that that happens, Casey,
Speaker 1: Is that a common thing or not? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess probably not super common. Yeah, I probably. I
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have brought it up it was common if
Speaker 1: it was like this happens every year, I tell you
Speaker 1: what said anything, So this pesky show started and I
Speaker 1: didn't get to finish from back through nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 1: But from now through back to one, it's only happened
Speaker 1: four other times. Um. The most the one that most
Speaker 1: Bucks fans of current vintage would remember is in two
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, used the first round pick on Jameis Winston
Speaker 1: and the second on Diamond Smith. And in fact, the
Speaker 1: next pick was Alan mar Pett and the next pick
Speaker 1: was Kwon Alexander. That's the only time in Team Mystery
Speaker 1: unless the before in nineteen eighty that all of your
Speaker 1: first four guys were all on the starting lineup on
Speaker 1: opening day, which was a pretty amazing draft. And I
Speaker 1: know you can look at this in two different ways.
Speaker 1: If if you've got a lot of rookie starting, that
Speaker 1: could mean your roster was talent deficient and they're starting
Speaker 1: by default. But I don't think anybody thinks that about
Speaker 1: this roster, and that certainly wasn't the case with that
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen group. Those are all ended up being
Speaker 1: very productive players, and Donovan and Ali are still with us,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Kwan got the big deal, and
Speaker 1: of course James had five years as a starter, so
Speaker 1: uh here so um. It doesn't happen very often. So
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting, and it's especially unusual given that this
Speaker 1: was the year what everybody thought rookies would have a
Speaker 1: hard time make getting into the lineup early because they
Speaker 1: didn't have an offseason, they didn't have preseason games. It's
Speaker 1: a tougher landscape than ever before for rookies. That I
Speaker 1: think that just tells you how impressive Tristan and Antoine
Speaker 1: were over the last month or so. That's a great point. Um,
Speaker 1: Matt asked, has Leonard Fournette been on the field practicing yet? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was yesterday. It was his first practice, so you know,
Speaker 1: he had to go through the COVID thing. That's why
Speaker 1: it wasn't official announce until Sunday and his first the
Speaker 1: first practice after that was yesterday, um, which is five
Speaker 1: days before the start of the regular season. So I
Speaker 1: can understand if people don't think you'll have a big
Speaker 1: role in the offense on Sunday in New Orleans, and
Speaker 1: that's certainly possible. But Bruce Arians did say he would
Speaker 1: have a solid role. I think it was a little
Speaker 1: hint to how they might use him when he started
Speaker 1: when Bruce Arians started talking about what makes him good
Speaker 1: as a third down back because he's good in past protection,
Speaker 1: he's got good hands, he knows what he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: a big, big, fast guy. So if I were a
Speaker 1: betting man, and honestly, I don't think anybody knows three
Speaker 1: or four weeks from now how the carries are gonna
Speaker 1: be distributed, because you've got to see how it works out.
Speaker 1: But if I were a bettman, I would say that
Speaker 1: this Sunday, Week one, Leonard four Nett will probably get
Speaker 1: a little bit of time from Shady on third downs
Speaker 1: and a little bit of time from Ronald Jones on
Speaker 1: first and second downs, and just see how it goes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be interesting. And I hoped sort of for
Speaker 1: Leonard fourd AT's say, he gets at least some action,
Speaker 1: because he talked about how excited he was to play
Speaker 1: his hometown team at this time. But it's so hard
Speaker 1: for us to think about this is like, oh, I've
Speaker 1: never played the Saints before. When we played them all
Speaker 1: million time, it feels like, yeah, he's never played them
Speaker 1: in his career and he's from there, so I thought
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool for him. But he finally gets
Speaker 1: you know, he gets sent to a new team and
Speaker 1: very first opponent is his hometown team. That's kind of
Speaker 1: a cool story. But Jacksonville, Jacksonville never played in New
Speaker 1: Orleans in his three years. Huh, yeah, that's what That's
Speaker 1: what he said in the Prescott. The Buccaneers have actually
Speaker 1: played a game on l s u S campus, So
Speaker 1: we've played more games where Leonard Fournette played college than
Speaker 1: for Neette has played in New Orleans. I don't think
Speaker 1: that means anything. Yeah, but it's a fun fact, it
Speaker 1: was after Hurricane Katrina had damaged the Super dumb That's interesting,
Speaker 1: Randi Barber had three interceptions and we won the game. Well,
Speaker 1: then we should play them more often. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 1: Devin asked, do you see Josh Rosen taking over the
Speaker 1: QB three spot. I did think about that. I did
Speaker 1: wonder that. Um the question is are you bringing him
Speaker 1: in to gradually do that or do you want to
Speaker 1: keep four quarterbacks? And there's certainly reason to believe you
Speaker 1: just want to keep four quarterbacks because you, um, because
Speaker 1: of the COVID thing. If if something happens and and
Speaker 1: one guy has to go on the list, and then
Speaker 1: other guys were in proximity and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're you're at without a quarterback, it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: And with the expanded practice squad, I think you can
Speaker 1: afford to do that. Um, So I understand that point.
Speaker 1: I think that's a logical thread to pull, and it
Speaker 1: could happen, but I think it's a little early to
Speaker 1: know for sure. I do think if you're Josh Rosen,
Speaker 1: who's already got his salary guaranteed from from Miami, so
Speaker 1: chasing the highest salary probably wasn't as big as priority
Speaker 1: as you can see, came to the practice squad here
Speaker 1: where he probably could have got an act of roster
Speaker 1: spot somewhere in the NFL. Uh. But chance to work
Speaker 1: with Brusirians Byron Leftwich, Clyde Christensen, Tom Brady probably hard
Speaker 1: to pay pass up. And also you might think as
Speaker 1: a young quarterback, he's had a tough he's had a
Speaker 1: tough road. You know, he gets drafted, starts a little
Speaker 1: bit as a rookie on a just horrendously bad Arizona team,
Speaker 1: and then new coaches come in, they have the first
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. They decided to go to Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: Then he goes to Miami and they're not a very
Speaker 1: good team at all. So hasn't had a real great
Speaker 1: opportunity yet. And maybe he's thinking a couple of years
Speaker 1: down the road if Tom Brady finally hangs him up,
Speaker 1: which who knows that will happen now, you know, right,
Speaker 1: so I can understand him thinking long term in that regard.
Speaker 1: You know, I will say, I don't know fans all
Speaker 1: fans know this, but um, in addition to a sixteen
Speaker 1: man practice squad this year, which is huge, uh, you. Also,
Speaker 1: each team also gets to say on Tuesday four players
Speaker 1: that they're gonna protect, which means you can't be signed away.
Speaker 1: Usually when you're on a practice squad, at any time
Speaker 1: another team can sign you away to their active roster
Speaker 1: and and uh, this year that's still true. But each
Speaker 1: Tuesday you get to designate up to four players that
Speaker 1: can't be that are protected and can't be signed away
Speaker 1: until after the next game. And uh, we did our
Speaker 1: four yesterday and Josh Rosen is one of them, which
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't mean that we love Josh Rosen more
Speaker 1: than the next guy in the practice squad. It just
Speaker 1: means probably just means that that's a position where you
Speaker 1: want to be protected. We also protected our second kicker,
Speaker 1: Greg Joseph. So I think it's gonna be a weekly
Speaker 1: thing where where are you most worried that if something
Speaker 1: were to happen, you'd be too thin and you'd need
Speaker 1: somebody right away. So if you had a problem with
Speaker 1: your quarterback room on a Friday and and you didn't
Speaker 1: have a fourth quarterback or somebody plucked him away, you'd
Speaker 1: be in a little bit of a pickle. So it's
Speaker 1: interesting to see how that list will be used this
Speaker 1: this year. First, the first week we protected Rosen wide
Speaker 1: receiver Cyril Grayson, uh cornerback Mazzi Wilkins, and the kicker
Speaker 1: Greg Joseph Okay, and we had Oscar asked, how does
Speaker 1: the offensive line look? Are they gonna be ready to
Speaker 1: protect Tom Brady this weekend? It's just gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to see overall. You may we talk about the idea
Speaker 1: of Tristan Worth starting and usually the only change up
Speaker 1: front there. So I feel like a lot of this
Speaker 1: question is are the existing guys gonna be do they
Speaker 1: have reason to be better from last year? And then
Speaker 1: how much better could Tristan worse make them? All? You
Speaker 1: can really go on because it's really hard to tell
Speaker 1: how good the line is when they're playing each other
Speaker 1: in training camp and not all of it is full tackling,
Speaker 1: full contact. One thing you can go on is what
Speaker 1: they say about each other. And of course teammates are
Speaker 1: going to be complimentary about each other, but we have
Speaker 1: heard um alling our pet for instance, say Donovan Smith
Speaker 1: is even better that he looks great. And in the
Speaker 1: issue with Donovan is his coach was saying. And one
Speaker 1: of these zoom called interviews was um consistency because they
Speaker 1: love Donovan Smith. They think he's a really good tackle,
Speaker 1: but sometimes there's a player two that aren't perfect. And
Speaker 1: the coach was saying, you can't have sixty good plays
Speaker 1: and five bad ones. You need sixty consistent plays. And
Speaker 1: apparently he looks really good. UM. Several guys have had
Speaker 1: very good things to say about Tristan Worse. I think
Speaker 1: Ryan Jensen and Ellie mark Pett were already very good
Speaker 1: last year. Alice Kappa impressed in terms of starting for
Speaker 1: the first time at right guard. He should probably be better.
Speaker 1: There have been some good things said about him, but honestly,
Speaker 1: we're not going to know the answer to that question
Speaker 1: for sure until we've had a couple of games. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty optimistic about it though, Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: But we'll close with this one. This is an interesting question.
Speaker 1: Something else that sort of was an interesting find from
Speaker 1: the depth chart that was released, J asked, will Gronk
Speaker 1: line up with o J or Cam on a more
Speaker 1: consistent basis. I think that you're gonna see a lot
Speaker 1: of Gronk and o J together. UM coach arians calls
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, which is two tight ends his base offense,
Speaker 1: which is interesting because tight ends in his offenses, he
Speaker 1: hasn't had a lot of hugely productive ones in terms
Speaker 1: of catches and so on, but he hasn't had a
Speaker 1: room like this before either. Uh, you still end up
Speaker 1: in eleven personnel, which is three wide more often, but
Speaker 1: I think this year that that gap is gonna come
Speaker 1: down on a little bit. You'll see a little more
Speaker 1: um twelve personnel. And I think you're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of Gronkin O G together, and there's gonna be
Speaker 1: other packages. Uh, you know, Gronk and Cam, Cam and
Speaker 1: o J. And don't even forget about Antonio Claire because
Speaker 1: the interesting of the thing about Claire is if you
Speaker 1: look at his his stat line, he's been here about
Speaker 1: three years and he's got a surprisingly large number of
Speaker 1: starts because lots of times we started a package which
Speaker 1: has him and O J. And if it's for the
Speaker 1: purpose of running the ball. So I think you have
Speaker 1: a call, I'm not that is true. Well in Karman,
Speaker 1: it's our other reporter Kermen. I'll call her back. Why
Speaker 1: isn't she watching this here? Tell her to tell her
Speaker 1: to go right now. This is great, Well it worked
Speaker 1: at all. We were ending anyway, so you can go
Speaker 1: call Karmen back. Yes, yes, perfect a. Well, thanks to
Speaker 1: all of you guys for joining us on this edition
Speaker 1: of Buccaneers Inside our Line. Thanks for those great questions,
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