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Speaker 1: You're listening to sports radio Rado.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, what is going on? You know what fellas?

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Speaker 2: I am in the big Apple right now? How do

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Speaker 2: I sound? Do I sound different?

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Speaker 1: Pretty good? I thought you were a la.

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Speaker 3: Do I sound crisp?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? You sound like you're perfect prestige. That's what I

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Speaker 1: like to hear right there.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure you're hearing me and crystal

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Speaker 2: clear audio here because I've been working all morning on

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Speaker 2: my impression heading into Game one of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is largely what you heard, all right.

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Speaker 1: Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas.

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Speaker 3: We love the MAVs.

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Speaker 2: They've got two closers, they've had away tougher playoff path.

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Speaker 3: Dallas, Dallas, Dallas, Dallas. Is that pretty much on point rail?

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Speaker 1: And then they go out.

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Speaker 2: And get pumped in Game one? Oh that was just beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I love when the the big mob right, like the

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Speaker 2: mainstream opinion is dead freaking wrong and they scored eighty

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Speaker 2: nine points. That's one of the things, man, That's one

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Speaker 2: of the things about Vegas and the books. Unemotional, you know, unemotional.

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Speaker 2: Based on what the playoff pats were, the spread was

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Speaker 2: six and a half. That might have felt a little

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Speaker 2: heavy heading in and then you blink and Boston wins

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Speaker 2: by eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, Look, there's a lot of ham handed

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Speaker 4: betters who bet with their hearts and not with their brains.

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Speaker 4: But if you watched Boston, and I use this reference

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Speaker 4: on my weekday show, we were talking about it last weekend,

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Speaker 4: Boston kind of looked like they went through the playoffs

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Speaker 4: playing with their food. You know, it really did look

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Speaker 4: like they were a better team than they were showing Dallas.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Dallas was surviving Dallas at times, even with

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Speaker 4: their two stars. There were games where the expenditure felt

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Speaker 4: very real, the tacks felt like it was draining the

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Speaker 4: account at times for them to survive him in advance.

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Speaker 4: It never felt like survival with Boston. It never felt

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Speaker 4: they they eked out wins. There's no doubt there were

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Speaker 4: nights where it felt like it was dicey. But but

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Speaker 4: Boston I didn't feel they had to press themselves to

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Speaker 4: get to the final, which, by the way, that builds

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Speaker 4: confidence too. A lot of people concentrated on the fact

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Speaker 4: that in game they would have struggles, which obviously you're

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Speaker 4: playing professional basketball, of course you're gonna have struggles in game,

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Speaker 4: but over series. I don't think mentally they ever felt threatened.

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Speaker 4: And when you're not threatened, you walk into a final,

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Speaker 4: especially with as much rest as they had, feeling like

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Speaker 4: the Alpha. Well, I'll tell you what they played like

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Speaker 4: the Alpha. Dallas was not ready for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the biggest takeaway for me game one was first

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Speaker 1: Porzingis and him beat back on the floor and just

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Speaker 1: the amount of depth that Boston now has, where Jason Tatum,

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Speaker 1: who admitted after the game he was a little bit

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Speaker 1: nervous and you know, wide eyed in the moment, kind

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Speaker 1: of took a step back and didn't have to really

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Speaker 1: score a whole lot. I mean he took sixteen shots,

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Speaker 1: he only made six of them, and it sounds like

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Speaker 1: a lot, but for him it's not. And I think

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Speaker 1: when you have a guy like Porzingis who comes back

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Speaker 1: and plays his official I mean it was one of

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Speaker 1: the most efficient Finals games ever in terms of scoring

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Speaker 1: twenty points in twenty one minutes. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 1: hard to do. Excuse me, the opposite twenty No, I

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Speaker 1: was sorry, twenty points in twenty one minutes, highly efficient,

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Speaker 1: Thirteen shots came off the bench very quickly, came off

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Speaker 1: the bench. But that was another surprise early, right, we

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Speaker 1: thought Porzing, he's never been a bench guy, came off

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Speaker 1: the bench. So we'll see out how now that if

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Speaker 1: that changes in game two, if he's still a sixth man,

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Speaker 1: or or if he takes back over that starting role

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Speaker 1: for al Horford. But then the other part to reach

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Speaker 1: your point about, you know, survive in advance, Dallas made

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Speaker 1: a push in the third quarter. They got it to eight,

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Speaker 1: and you thought, all right, maybe this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a game. But whenever Boston was pushed in the game,

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Speaker 1: they just kind of put the accelerator down and said

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Speaker 1: see you later. So like it's almost like they got

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Speaker 1: when Dallas made their run, Boston was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: now we've got to start playing again. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I bring this up, and Brian, I think you can

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Speaker 1: expand on this, it is rare that a team has

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Speaker 1: the ability to just flip the switch. We say that

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Speaker 1: all the time, Oh, you can't just flip the switch on. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe this Boston team can, right because it happened against Indiana.

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Speaker 1: They were pushed multiple times and they frankly should have

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Speaker 1: lost the one, two, maybe three of those games. But

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Speaker 1: they were able to just flip on the defense at

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Speaker 1: a moment's snow and get across the finish line. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what separates them this year from prior

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Speaker 1: to Boston teams.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, and that's where it leads to. The scrutiny

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Speaker 2: for Boston was way over the top. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a victory lap just yet. It was Game one.

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Speaker 2: It was a really impressive Game one performance, but the

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Speaker 2: series isn't over yet. But the focus heading into the

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Speaker 2: finals was all about Boston's weaknesses, which I thought was silly.

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Speaker 3: You got to look at the strengths as well.

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Speaker 2: It's like it was a little bit like Cindy Crawford's mole,

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, You're just focused on the

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Speaker 2: mole instead of she is a supermodel, right, like she's gorgeous. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but the mole though, Let's focus on the mole. That's

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Speaker 2: what the talk was about with Boston. It was about

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Speaker 2: the deficiencies instead of the strengths.

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Speaker 3: It was all about.

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Speaker 2: Hey, there was no Jimmy Butler, There was no Dobovan

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Speaker 2: Mitchell for a couple of games. There was no Haliburton

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Speaker 2: for a couple of games. And you just mentioned the

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Speaker 2: guy poor Zingis Jared right, Like poor Zingis was sensational

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Speaker 2: in game one, and heading in if it was like

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Speaker 2: a if you've got a newspaper in front of you,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes they have the full page ads. The full

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Speaker 2: page ad would have been what Boston isn't doing well?

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Speaker 2: And then at the and the stars that weren't playing

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Speaker 2: against Boston, and then in like little tiny print it

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, Boston has some strengths to and Perzingis

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Speaker 2: missed a bunch of games as well, Like it was

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Speaker 2: just completely glossed over, and that's gonna make a big

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Speaker 2: difference that already has in this series. Getting Porzingis back, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: getting Porzingis back it is a little bit like the

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Speaker 2: secret weapon.

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Speaker 4: Because these playoffs are long, you don't have film on

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Speaker 4: a guy.

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Speaker 1: Basically in the postseason.

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Speaker 4: He exited week one of Boston's postseason.

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Speaker 1: That's forty days away from the next postseason. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean for a month.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy, it's absolutely insane. And then he comes on

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Speaker 4: the court, and he looks at fresh. Credit to Boston,

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Speaker 4: credit to porzingis having their guy ready and trusting him

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Speaker 4: fully to get back out there and do what he did,

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Speaker 4: because twenty minutes off the bench, that's a good chunk

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Speaker 4: and that can wear at you. And so I'm sure

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Speaker 4: that conversation was ongoing, especially after the first quarter where

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Speaker 4: he really gave Boston a shot in the arm and

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Speaker 4: helped catapult them to a lead that they would never

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Speaker 4: relent relinquish again. Look, Boston, it really does feel like

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Speaker 4: a team where I don't want to say team of destiny,

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Speaker 4: but there's this vibe about Boston where they're angry, they're

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Speaker 4: downtrodden from past playoff losses. They're playing against an emotional foe,

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Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving. Obviously there's history there between he and the

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Speaker 4: fan base, you know, so you're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have the full voice.

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Speaker 4: Of the fan base when you're in the garden behind

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Speaker 4: you because they don't want to see that guy have success.

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Speaker 4: And I think that translated to the court. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: Porzing has had three blocks. We talk about his offense,

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Speaker 4: and he was incredibly efficient offensively, but how about the

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Speaker 4: fact that he affected three shots and he probably had

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Speaker 4: an effect on a handful more.

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Speaker 1: Just his presence in the low.

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Speaker 4: Post, and he's not known for his great defense, but

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Speaker 4: he's long and he's in the way, and I think that.

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Speaker 1: Really that perturbed Kyrie's play.

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Speaker 4: And then on top of it, Kyrie Man, he played

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Speaker 4: completely differently than he played in other games.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about the evolution of Kyrie Irving last weekend,

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Speaker 4: how he's become a much more unselfish player, much more

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Speaker 4: self aware human being. It seems like the way he

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Speaker 4: expresses himself in interviews and some of the things he've

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Speaker 4: said about being with the Mavericks, and how he sort

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Speaker 4: of compartmentalizes what's happened in his past, especially with Boston,

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Speaker 4: and then he goes out there and it looks like

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Speaker 4: old Kyrie. You know, the best shot is my shot.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna look for the open man because they

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Speaker 4: trust myself above everybody. And he had an off shooting night,

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Speaker 4: and defensively they put the clamps on him. Luca got

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Speaker 4: his points, Kyrie got shut down, and Dallas really struggled

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Speaker 4: because he couldn't see the cord.

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Speaker 1: He got stuck in his own head. It felt like

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Speaker 1: to assist was the lowest in the whole postseason for him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the entire post So he's averaging like six in the postseason,

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Speaker 1: he averaged almost five in the in the t Wool series,

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Speaker 1: he averaged over six in the Thunder series, and then

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Speaker 1: right at five, so he was he's like five and

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Speaker 1: a half in the playoffs. Two in this game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a big story. But you know, now to

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Speaker 1: Brian's original point, well, the narrative now flips. Now Boston's

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Speaker 1: the big public chalk in game two and getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of the handle, and we're seeing a number push

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Speaker 1: seven and a half at bet MGM, which is a

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Speaker 1: little bit higher than what we saw the other night.

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Speaker 1: And now you've got to make the decision is it

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Speaker 1: was it a one game blow up or was that

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Speaker 1: you know, did that third quarter for Dallas give you

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Speaker 1: hope that they can at least make this series competitive

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Speaker 1: because I think if they lose by double digits, you know,

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Speaker 1: fifteen twenty again on Sunday, you know, this is we're

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Speaker 1: going to really start the question, Hey, can can Dallas

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Speaker 1: E win a game in this series? I think they will.

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Speaker 1: I think I think Game two will be tighter. I

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Speaker 1: think their offense was about as were as bad as

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Speaker 1: their offense is. I has looked the whole postseason, and

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Speaker 1: I would expect it to look a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: It was the fewest amount of assists I think Lucas

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Speaker 1: ever had too. I mean, I saw some like crazy

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Speaker 1: historical type numbers on the low assists for Dallas in

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Speaker 1: that game, and it goes completely against what they've done

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Speaker 1: the whole playoffs. So Jason Kid's got his work cut

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Speaker 1: out for him. They have an extra day, right, They

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Speaker 1: had that weird. I hate when they do this Thursday Sunday,

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Speaker 1: But I think that favors Dallas making some adjustments. I

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Speaker 1: think that does give Kyrie a chance to catch his breath.

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Speaker 1: He looked like he was a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed by the moment. And do I think Dallas gonna

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Speaker 1: win Game two? No? But would I be shocked if

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Speaker 1: they covered. I would not be shocked if they covered

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Speaker 1: Game two.

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Speaker 3: No, I hear you on that.

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Speaker 2: I think what's funny is from Dallas's point of view,

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Speaker 2: Game one, you just flush it right.

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Speaker 3: It was a disaster.

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Speaker 2: You're trailing by twenty one at halftime, you lose by eighteen.

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Speaker 2: So the Lakers doing more than flirting with Yukon head

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Speaker 3: They have met with him.

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Speaker 2: Uh, They've invited Dan Hurley over to their place, you

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Speaker 3: Like this is beyond here.

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Speaker 2: What's going on with the Lakers in Hurley and he's

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Speaker 3: He goes to the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Storied franchise, he's coaching Lebron. Whoa, this is a major

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Speaker 2: they're not winning a title next season. Lebron is almost forty.

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Speaker 4: lot if you're Dan Hurley. Frankly, you're signing up for

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Speaker 1: Out of respect for the.

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Speaker 4: him staying quiet. Here my thought on this, and give

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Speaker 4: And don't get me wrong, I think the Lakers as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how I feel about the Reddick stuff.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, we hear this whopper

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Speaker 1: what you said makes a ton of sense. The Lakers

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Speaker 1: I can count on one hand, probably two fingers. The

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Speaker 1: what's happening after this unbelievably talented player eventually succumbs to

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Speaker 1: he's not right. Billy Donovan waited like ten years after

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going back to back to back.

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Speaker 1: If they do, that would be absolutely absurd. And so

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Speaker 1: this it makes sense, right. The timing is right, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the headline is funny to me,

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Speaker 2: where it says Yukon's current offer would make Dan Hurley

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Speaker 2: gotta step your game up, Ukon, Come on.

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Speaker 1: It ain't exactly you know, you know park boardwalk here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lakers are pounding on his door. We gotta

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Speaker 2: This is like a quarterback in the NFL. I look

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Speaker 2: about Jim Harbaugh. It's a legitimate comparison, right, Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: if he says, now, I'm gonna stay here at Yukon,

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Speaker 2: It's what we've built here and this, you know, championship

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Speaker 2: He's not gonna sit here and tell you, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I just think if he stays in Yukon, a lot

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Speaker 4: is a money problem for the Lakers. Like you got

435
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Speaker 4: to remember, these are businesses, and they're the business is

436
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: booming when you're winning championships, you know, because I mean,

437
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 4: you can increase your rate on everything. You know, advertisers

438
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 4: are kicking in your door to have access to your

439
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 4: players and your brand. Well, the Lakers since the Bubble Championship,

440
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 4: they haven't done much at anything.

441
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Speaker 1: Now, don't get me wrong.

442
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 4: A Western Conference Final isn't nothing, it's something, But that's

443
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 4: a title town. If you're not coming home with a

444
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 4: banner that you can raise to the rafters, the city

445
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Speaker 4: kind of collectively shrugs. And so I think you're in

446
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Speaker 4: a position where a lot of coaches out there who

447
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: are targeted, you know, like a Jimmy Harbaugh, like coming

448
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: back to the NFL, jim Harball was going to be

449
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: able to name his price with most franchises, and he

450
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: had a pretty good situation in Michigan, albeit it did

451
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Speaker 4: sort of feel like Operation avoid collegiate scrutiny a lah

452
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Speaker 4: Pee Carroll leaving USC when the scene was really hot

453
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Speaker 4: for Pete Carroll at the college level, I mean, there

454
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 4: was a lot of you know, hey, are we recruiting

455
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 4: the right way at Southern California? Does anybody know how

456
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: they got all of the good players?

457
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Speaker 1: Hey?

458
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Speaker 4: Are we sure that that Reggie Bush was the only

459
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 4: one you know who's who family members were getting special Truman?

460
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Speaker 4: Was there anybody you know? So Pete was like, all right,

461
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Speaker 4: see you laters. Seattle seems like a nice city.

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Speaker 1: You know.

463
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Speaker 4: I kind of feel like Jim Harborough might have been

464
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Speaker 4: a different boat than Dan Hurley. But still speaking specifically

465
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Speaker 4: to the Lakers, I look at Dan Hurley as being

466
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Speaker 4: in the cat bird seat like the Lakers. That's not

467
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Speaker 4: as a a gleaming position as it would be if

468
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 4: Lebron was ten years younger, where there was no end

469
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: in sight, you know. I mean, you're talking about a

470
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 4: franchise that's literally got their heels backed up against the cliff.

471
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Speaker 4: Lebron James what he says goes with that organization, including

472
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Speaker 4: going after Dan Hurley in the first place. That's a

473
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Speaker 4: b You're gonna be making the transition from the college

474
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Speaker 4: game to the pro game, and if you get sniffed

475
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Speaker 4: out as not ready for this position the first year

476
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Speaker 4: you're there, You're gonna lose a tremendous amount of respect

477
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Speaker 4: in those circles, especially in that locker room with a

478
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Speaker 4: veteran of twenty years of the game at the Helm,

479
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Speaker 4: and then.

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Speaker 1: See what happens after Lebron. I think that. I basically

481
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Speaker 1: think that these coaches.

482
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Speaker 4: If they're wanted by the Lakers, they're able to come

483
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Speaker 4: back to them and say I want an obscene amount

484
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Speaker 4: of money otherwise I'm not moving. I mean because Dan Hurley,

485
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Speaker 4: like you said, Brian, he could go back and say, Hey.

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Speaker 1: It's all about the culture we built here in you

487
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Speaker 1: card JJ Reddick.

488
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: He could go back to his job with a microphone

489
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: and say, hey, you know, this is what I've always

490
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 4: wanted to do post career, and this is what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: You know, you have the perfect excuse.

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Speaker 4: I think the Lakers are in a tough spot right

493
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Speaker 4: now trying to hire somebody worthwhile.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be honest, I think this and it is

495
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: a lot about Dan Hurley obviously. I think this story

496
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: is a lot about Lebron too. And I think it's

497
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: kind of like a dual headline. It's like you can

498
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: you can write the headline two different ways, like let's

499
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 1: just say, let's let's fast forward to a future. It

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Speaker 1: could be tomorrow, could be today, it could be in

501
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: an hour. Who knows, maybe a good don't think during

502
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: the show that the ink is dry and they're signing

503
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Speaker 1: a contract. You could write the headline two ways you

504
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: could write it. Lakers sign Dan Hurley to mammothic, you know,

505
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Speaker 1: contract to be head coach or Laker formulate post Lebron

506
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: plan like like to me, the headline is twofold because

507
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Speaker 1: if they signed Dan Hurley to a ten year deal

508
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: whatever it is, they are telling you that they are

509
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: They are showing you their hand in their post Lebron plan,

510
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: right like after World War Two they did like the treaty, right,

511
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: and they signed the big treaty after all the wars, right,

512
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: and I remember the Revolutionary War was a Treaty of

513
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: Paris Ben Franklin. They showed you all their plans. This

514
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: is how we're gonna, you know, make everything happy again.

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00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: That's what the Lakers are doing here. If they do

516
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: go in this direction, they are telling you that we

517
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Speaker 1: have been in an era now with Lebron where the

518
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: culture has been Lebron. Now we have to change that

519
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: culture and get back to team basketball fundamentals, all the

520
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Speaker 1: things that made us frankly great in the seventies and

521
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: the eighties, and now you've you've got to kind of

522
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Speaker 1: go back to that. And it's a little bit of

523
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Speaker 1: a throwback maybe to Phil Jackson too. And I know

524
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Speaker 1: he had Jack and Cobe, but you know, Phil Jackson's

525
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: a very fundamental, logical coach like that, Like that's kind

526
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Speaker 1: of his his vibe. He was a tough coach too,

527
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Speaker 1: And I know that the personalities are different, obviously, but

528
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Speaker 1: it kind of feels like that where Phil Jackson had

529
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Speaker 1: a lot of star power even though they had Jack

530
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Speaker 1: at go, Like Phil Jackson still had a lot of

531
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Speaker 1: star power in LA. The coach still commanded a lot

532
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Speaker 1: of that star power. And I think that's what we

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Speaker 1: would be going back to if the Lakers decide to

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Speaker 1: make this move.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

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542
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: after we get off the year. I love this headline. Right,

543
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: you've got the New York Giants.

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Speaker 3: You know those.

545
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: Ugly, awful, hideous throwback uniforms, this scent three red uniforms

546
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: where it looks like they're wearing khakis. They're gonna debut

547
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: those uniforms in week one. It's awful they're rolling them

548
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: out and oh, nothing says the season is already over.

549
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like those uniforms, well, well, nothing.

550
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: Says the season's over. Like we need to get our most.

551
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: Prime merchandise rolling out week one of the season because

552
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: that's gonna be the last time we're at an even

553
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: record and in the right diretget because I I if

554
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: there is a team in the NFL who's had a

555
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: more head scratching offseason than the Giants, point to them.

556
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: I mean, the Giants lost their best offensive player. They're

557
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: sticking with Danny Dimes, which, okay, I get it to

558
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 4: a greater or lesser degree. It is a business, after all,

559
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 4: and it's a business decision sticking with a guy you

560
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 4: just recently re upped. But I mean, there's been nothing interesting,

561
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: even remotely interesting that they've done in terms of you know,

562
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: coaching hires or you know, player acquisition that leads you

563
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Speaker 4: to believe this upcoming season is gonna go better than last.

564
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 4: It almost feels like either the Marrow family is satisfied saying, Okay,

565
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: you know what, we're probably gonna fire this coach because

566
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Speaker 4: things aren't gonna go well. It's gonna be wholesale changes

567
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 4: around here after this upcoming season, or they've placed enough

568
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 4: faith in Brian Dable that they're saying to him, hey, listen,

569
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Speaker 4: if you tank this season, we want you to rebuild

570
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: with a different quarterback. We believe that you can. And

571
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: so it's a it's a let's work with what we

572
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 4: have here this year situation, and then let's let's go

573
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: out there in twenty twenty five and find the quarterback

574
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Speaker 4: of the future. It's one or the other, because it

575
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: doesn't look like they've put much effort into putting together

576
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Speaker 4: the rest sped to make a great stew here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the stew is kind of what it

578
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: looks like on the back end with their uniforms. Right

579
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: after you eat the stew that's what their uniforms look like.

580
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: When I look at their schedules. I refer to the

581
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Speaker 1: matrix they are, they're only they're only favorite. So maybe

582
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: that's why they wanted to do it, guys, because they're

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00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: favored in week one, it's a they're a slight favorite,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're they're at home against Minnesota. It's not

585
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: like they're a big favorite, but right now they're at

586
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: least somewhat projected to win that game. And then things

587
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: get really tough because they're basically a three point or

588
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: more underdog in their next one, two, three, four, five,

589
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,959
Speaker 1: six seven games. And then they're a favorite again at

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00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: home in week nine, small favorite against Washington, so decent chance.

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00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: They start one in seven, decent chance one and six.

592
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: Like they're like they're staring one in six, one and

593
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: seven right in the face. Their buy is not until

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Speaker 1: week eleven. They do get a couple of games there

595
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Speaker 1: against Carolina and Washington in weeks nine to ten where

596
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: they can at least maybe get some momentum going into

597
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: their bye week. But yeah, like, besides New England, who

598
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: I am very close to pulling, Like I'm gonna bet

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Speaker 1: the first bet. I'll tell you, guys, when I bet it,

600
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Speaker 1: it'll be New England's under win total. The second bet

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Speaker 1: I make for the offseason win totals will probably be

602
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Speaker 1: the Giants.

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Speaker 2: This is my favorite comment. So this is maleak Neighbors, right,

604
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: top ten rookie wide receiver, right new Giant Sky, you know,

605
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: and here's what he says about these hideous uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Check it out. It's gonna be hard to swag it out.

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00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to swag it out. That's how

608
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: ugly I'm gonna do my best. It's gonna be hard

609
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: to look cool in these hideous uniforms. And compare that

610
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: to another wide receiver, also from LSU, Justin Jefferson of

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Speaker 2: the Vikings. So the Vikings later in the year, this

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00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: will be in December, they'll have their icy white uniforms.

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Speaker 3: They call them the Winter Warrior uniforms.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: They look kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: Compare what Maleikue Neighbors said about the Giant sucky uniforms

617
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: to what Justin Jefferson says about the Vikings clean uniforms. Okay,

618
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: a lot different, a lot of different reaction.

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Speaker 3: There between the two. I love that. That's funny stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: We got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American Jared Smith

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Speaker 2: FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 3: I'm Brian No.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, Jared has been hard working in the lab. Okay,

625
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Speaker 2: smoke is billowing out. He has constructed a parlay platter

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Speaker 2: that is a bit international today, so he'll unveil that.

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Speaker 3: Coming up.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: We have no time to waste. Let's do this.

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Speaker 5: Check this outlay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared Smith, you have been hard at work.

633
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Speaker 3: We are all ears. What do you have for us today?

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00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Well, let's go to foggy London town and I apologize

635
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: for all the after the British people that I offended

636
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: with that terrible let's not more Irish to me. I

637
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: have no idea. I am not I'm not good. I

638
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: have a fantastic radio voice. It's terrible impersonation's terrible accent.

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00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: So I again, it's not my job on the show.

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00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: It's hopefully to win bets. But there's a game happen.

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00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: He's actually two games happening in London this weekend, one today,

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00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: one tomorrow. It's the London Series. This is the third

643
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: iteration of the London Series. Of course, twenty twenty was

644
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: canceled to the COVID, and then they kind of took

645
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: a couple of years off, and then all of a sudden,

646
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: we're back last year. So I remember, if you guys

647
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: can recall, in twenty nineteen, it was like a bandbox

648
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: the stadium. It was Yankees Red Sox. The first game

649
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: was seventeen thirteen, a crazy high scoring, second game a

650
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Speaker 1: little bit lower scoring twelve eight. Then they had the

651
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: COVID year, then a couple of years off. Then in

652
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: twenty three last year, Brian, I'm sure you remember Cubs Cardinals,

653
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: they moved the dimensions back. So all of a sudden

654
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: you saw three eighty seven in the power alleys, three

655
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: ninety two to center. So still relatively small, and it's

656
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: the game is being totaled like it's a you know,

657
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of at like cors Field, so to say, it's

658
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: not an altitude, but it's a very small dimensions, but

659
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: not as small as before. And I think there is

660
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: still a hair of value to the under here. So

661
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little same game parlay. We're gonna

662
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: take the first five under five and a half. We're

663
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: gonna take the under for the full game. Ten, and

664
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: then we're gonna pair that with Sean Manaiah the starting

665
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: pitcher of the Mets, to go under fifteen and a

666
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: half out, So the under for the game and the

667
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: full and the first five total. That's pretty self explanatory,

668
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: right We we think that the Dimensions are playing a

669
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: little bit more fair than they were back in twenty nineteen.

670
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: And also, frankly, Ranger Suarez on the mound for Philly

671
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: today is one of the best pitchers in Baseball one

672
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: point seven ERA, and he's coming off a weird start

673
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: where he got a hit with a line drive only

674
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: pitch two innings against the Cardinals last time out, so

675
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: he's very well rested. And also the Phillies are an

676
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: underteam eight one to one in their last ten to

677
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: the under and overall profitable to the under this season.

678
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Sean Mania under fifteen and a half outs, this is

679
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: hitting seven of eleven starts this year. And the Phillies

680
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: are really good against lefties. They take a lot of pitches,

681
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: very high walk rate. And the Mets haven't played a

682
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 1: game since Wednesday. How often in season do you have

683
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: four days off? What ye haven't played since Wednesday? Thursday?

684
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: Actually shoos me three days off Thursday, Friday, and now Saturday,

685
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: the third day they are playing a game, so the

686
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: bullpen is going to be well rested. I think the

687
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Mets will showcase the bullpen today. Mania will not pitch

688
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: past the fifth inning. If you throw all three of

689
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: those bets together under five and a half in the

690
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: first five under ten for the full game, Sean Manyah

691
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: under fifteen and a half outs five to one over

692
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 1: at bet MGM. Not too shabby for a three game,

693
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: three team parlay that I think is pretty highly correlated.

694
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,959
Speaker 1: Do you like baseball? Like when when you think about like, no,

695
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: I know, I feel miserable.

696
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: Like I hear it in your voice because I hear

697
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 4: the way you the gusto you deliver a college football

698
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: pick with or an NFL pick.

699
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: I hear the bravado you.

700
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: Speak with when you talk about college basketball, especially tournament

701
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: time or the NBA, And then I hear you talk

702
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: about baseball and you are really like You're like, Okay,

703
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 4: I'm going.

704
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: To stat all over you people, and you're gonna have

705
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: to deal with it. You watch these games, right, Rich, Oh,

706
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: because you watch a lot of Padres games. Oh yeah,

707
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: baseball is the most random.

708
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: Oh sport.

709
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: Oh, I have lost on the most ridiculous things, way

710
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: more ridiculous than other sports, Brian. I mean, you've been

711
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: watching the Cardinals for the last few years, you've probably

712
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: been pretty upset.

713
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it is. It's such a random sport.

714
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: That's the thing is when it works against you, it's

715
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: the worst thing ever.

716
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: You know what it works for you?

717
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 3: You kind of like gloss over it.

718
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: Right to take the good with the bad? You really do?

719
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: You just do. And also you gotta know what you

720
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: can control and what you can't, and you just have

721
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: to not let the things you can't control affect you.

722
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: It was crazy. I was doing a show last week

723
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: with Jeff Schwartz.

724
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: He took Blake Snell, the Giants pitcher, under total outs

725
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: outs recorded, and he needed one more out for his

726
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: bet to lose. He had to come out of the

727
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: game with a groin strain.

728
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll do it.

729
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: He won based on that's crazy. Coming up next. This

730
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: is the worst way to welcome new customers. Oh, what's

731
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: going on? Everybody? Happy Saturday morning to you. You know, Uh,

732
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the WNBA is on the brain again?

733
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: What's going on here? And I think some interesting layers.

734
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: So the first thing I wanted to throw at you

735
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: guys and everybody listening is I find this to be

736
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: really interesting where there are some former players and current

737
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: players that are saying, hey, hey, don't talk about this

738
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark controversy where she got fouled hard by Kennedy Carter.

739
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: Don't talk about that unless you really know the league

740
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: and the players and you've been watching for a number

741
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: of years. Are we really doing this right now? Like

742
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: Monica McNutt, who does a great job for ESPN, she

743
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: told Stephen A. Smith, Hey, you could have been talking

744
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: WNBA more than three years ago if you wanted to.

745
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: And it's like, first off, your ratings were in the toilet,

746
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: no one was watching, right, Like it made sense to

747
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: not talk about the WNBA. Thankfully for the league. Thanks

748
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: have changed. Caitlin Clark comes in, superstar boom, lots of interest, ratings,

749
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: interest like, it's great where it is, But this idea

750
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: and this narrative that's out there where it's like, if

751
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: you haven't watched the WNBA religious for a minimum of

752
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: five years, then I don't want to hear your opinion

753
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: about the league that is so ridiculous to me. It'd

754
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: be like this, You tell me if this makes sense.

755
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm thinking if you owned a restaurant, okay, and you're

756
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: not getting many customers. It's been a long time and

757
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: you're not getting any customers. You have tried and tried

758
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: and it's just not working. And then all of a

759
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: sudden you are getting flooded with people. You've got people

760
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: showing up. It's the buzz in town. We got to

761
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: try this new restaurant. And you you're not gonna be like, oh,

762
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: this is awesome. You're going to be like shaking your

763
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: finger at the customers and saying, wow, it's about time

764
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: you showed up. You could have showed up three years ago. Like, really,

765
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: is that what you're doing to your own customers. You're

766
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 2: working against yourself. You should just be happy they're here finally,

767
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: Like for whatever reason, they're here.

768
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: Good.

769
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: But no, they're like, no, we want it on our

770
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: terms and it's overdue, and it's like that's not gonna

771
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: help you at all going forward.

772
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: Why are you looking at it like that?

773
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 4: Do you guys remember when Apple decided for all of

774
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 4: us that we needed a U two album on our

775
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 4: phones Okay, hey, hey, WNBA, Like, is it cool if

776
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: we just watch Caitlin Clark for a while and we

777
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 4: decide if we want the album?

778
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's what this feels like.

779
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: It feels like I'm being forced by the players and

780
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 4: the media who covers this game.

781
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: Like oh no, no, no.

782
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 4: If you want to use the iPhone, then you need

783
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 4: to listen to you too. It's like the hell I do.

784
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't care about Angel Reese. I don't. I'm sorry.

785
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: She may think she's a superstar in my opinion, and

786
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 4: it's a humble opinion, who, by the way, has not

787
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 4: watched a full WNBA game yet, but has watched more

788
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 4: WNBA as a result of Caitlin Clark being in the

789
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 4: league than I ever have in my life. I don't

790
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 4: care about Angel rees I care about Caitlin Clark, and

791
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: that's my own prerogative. I am the consumer. I am

792
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: the tail that wags the dog. So if you want

793
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 4: the lights to stay on in the arenas, don't shove

794
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 4: me away, welcome me in with both arms, tell me

795
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: about your league, interest me in the other items for sale.

796
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: You know, Apple didn't need to do that.

797
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 4: You know, if people were going to stumble across you

798
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: two on their own and the iTunes store, well they

799
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 4: would have. We didn't need it jam down our neck.

800
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, as a result, that album tanked.

801
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 4: It became a joke, It became a meme. The WNBA.

802
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 4: They think they're helping themselves. These analysts who cover the

803
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: game think they're helping the league by championing the voices

804
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 4: of the voiceless for so long. Meanwhile, you're making yourself

805
00:42:59,160 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: a meme.

806
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: Don't do it.

807
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: You're going down the wrong path. Embrace what Caitlin Clark's

808
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 4: don't for your sport.

809
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: Totally agree. I mean, I think it. There's a simple

810
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: term for it. It's called gatekeeping. Unfortunately, it's the uglier

811
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: side of the human emotional spectrum. It's jealousy, anger, rage,

812
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: all of those emotions kind of congealing into this don't

813
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: talk about my thing. And I deal with this a

814
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: lot in the gambling space. I dealt with this since

815
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: I started in the betting space back in twenty nineteen.

816
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a professional gambler. News flash. I'm not Bill Krackenberger.

817
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Love your crack, I'm not him. I don't have thousands

818
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: and thousands and thousands of dollars in my bankroll. I'm

819
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: not a professional better. I do not derive my income

820
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: from gambling. But I am on national TV and radio

821
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: every week talking about gambling. There are a lot of

822
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: professional gamblers that look at me and say the exact

823
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: same thing. Who's this guy? What is he doing talking

824
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: about my thing on TV? He's not allowed to do that.

825
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: He's not a professional gambler. Newsflash, you're not a professional broadcaster.

826
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: Just because you're good at gambling doesn't mean you can

827
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: talk about gambling on TV and radio. Those things are

828
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 1: mutually exclusive. Cracks one of the few that can do both.

829
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: Great.

830
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: I love getting his insights every week. But to bring

831
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: it back to the WNBA, just because you're not an

832
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: expert on the WNBA doesn't mean you're not an expert

833
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: on basketball or the trends that happen in professional sports

834
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: when new phenomenons come in. So I would say Stephen A.

835
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: Smith is an expert in that, and you know his

836
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: opinion and other media experts, media people's opinions on what's

837
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: happening in the WNBA and how it kind of compares

838
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: to the rest of the sports landscape. I think is

839
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: very relevant even if you haven't watched one second of

840
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: the WNBA. It's all part of this new wave of

841
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: superstar we're seeing in this league. And I don't think

842
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: Angel Reese is a superstar, but I think she is

843
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: a star. I think Cameron Brink, one of the other

844
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: young rookie sensations, is a star. They're not Patrick Mahomes,

845
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: but maybe they're Josh Allen, right, Like, I think that

846
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: is kind of how I compare this. And if there

847
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: are voices that have been covering the league for years

848
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: and years and years that are now upset that bigger

849
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: fish like Stephen a or swimming in the in the

850
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: WNBA pool, Brian, to your original point, it should be

851
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: all good because it means more attention for the league.

852
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: I tweeted this earlier this week. All I saw on

853
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: my feed this week was Caitlin Clark. Even if you

854
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: disagree with whatever's happening, or you know, whatever your opinion is,

855
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: that's net positive for the WNBA that they are in

856
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: the conversation. They have a seat at the table. That

857
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: should be the most important thing.

858
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And it's just it's not it's not laying good groundwork.

859
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: If you're like took you long enough to finally pay attention,

860
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: And if you aren't watching game after game after game,

861
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear your opinion. Really, what are

862
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: you doing right now? I caught something. This was Greenie, Okay,

863
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: Mike Greenberg. He was on Get Up, and he was

864
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: having a discussion with Rebecca Lobo and Monica McNutt about

865
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: the whole Caitlin Clark Kennedy Carter controversy. Kennedy Carter fouled

866
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: Caitlin Hard upgraded to a flagrant one. Lot of conversation

867
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: generated because of that. But listen to what Greenie says

868
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: based on the pushback of hey, this is our thing.

869
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Like you just said, Jared, this is our thing. You

870
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: haven't covered the league. Get out with your opinions. Here

871
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: here's what Greene had to say.

872
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 6: I'm not going to parachute into the middle of a

873
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 6: nuanced debate, in the middle of a sport that I

874
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 6: have not covered as extensively for the last thirty five

875
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 6: years as I have the NBA and the National Football

876
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 6: League and others, and start throwing out opinions based on

877
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 6: things that I've observed over the course of these last

878
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 6: three weeks.

879
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: That is so weak.

880
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: But that's what it turns into, is Okay, I guess

881
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have an opinion based on what I've watched

882
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: and what I can gather here, even though I haven't

883
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 2: watched religiously for the last twenty five years or whatever.

884
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: Of it's insane. It's like, Caitlin Clark is a rookie.

885
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: You can look at what she's facing on the court

886
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: and listen to the comments and gather this goes beyond

887
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: just healthy competition. Oh, this is some jealousy absolutely going on.

888
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: If Kennedy Carter's like, no Caitlin Clark questions after the

889
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: hard foul game, if Angel Reese afterwards like it's more

890
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: than just one player why they're watching the league.

891
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: It's because of me too. Like, there's absolutely some jealousy.

892
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: So don't be afraid to have an opinion if you

893
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: haven't watched every w NBA game in its history.

894
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: It's just silly what it's turned into here.

895
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's ridiculous, I mean, and by that, I

896
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 4: mean it is worthy of ridicule. These players, they they

897
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 4: really they they don't understand the fact that this league,

898
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 4: the only reason why it exists is because the NBA

899
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 4: subsidizes it. It's not because of interest. People don't want this.

900
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 4: The ratings reflect that. That's the reality of the situation.

901
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: The NBA has lost money on the WNBA every single year.

902
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: Now.

903
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 4: Their hope is that potentially one day it'll turn into

904
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: a revenue creating a profit mining circumstance. It hasn't reached

905
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 4: that level yet. And if this is going to be

906
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: the the blowback that people receive for becoming interested in

907
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 4: this sport, it'll never become profitable. Yeah, Like it's almost

908
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 4: it's it legitimately is almost like having a a ticket

909
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 4: booth where somebody gives you a purity test, like are

910
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 4: you really a Jonas Brothers fan?

911
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: Okay?

912
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 4: They name name the three Jonas Brothers by their first

913
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: name in their middle initial Like what why? Why do

914
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: I have to pretend like I know the w n

915
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 4: b A to be interested in the WNBA. I mean,

916
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: imagine if professional wrestling did this to people, you know

917
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: what I mean? Imagine if I mean any sport. I mean,

918
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 4: if if.

919
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: Titus think think about Tiger Woods and golf. Right, you

920
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: don't know golf, You don't know this guy?

921
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: Many courses have you played this year? Have you ever

922
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: played Augusta not. You can't be here. You can't listen

923
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: to this guy. He's he doesn't even know golf. He

924
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: thinks that he thinks that they score points. It's like,

925
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: who can listen to me?

926
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 4: Seems to me, who cares how much I know about

927
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: the WNBA?

928
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: Okay I don't, I'll freely admit now. Don't get me wrong.

929
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: There are some LARPers out there. There are some marpers.

930
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are some live action role players out there

931
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: who are pretending that they've been covering the WNBA for

932
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 4: years and years and years.

933
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: And that is laughable. That is laughable.

934
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: There are certain people who you know, rolled over in bed,

935
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: realize that their phone keeps buzzing with Caitlin Clark updates,

936
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: and they're pretending they're faking the funk. You know, they're

937
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 4: they're they're trying. They're trying to pretend like they've cared

938
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: and been considerate of the WNBA for.

939
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: A long time. Now.

940
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 4: I could see how that could grind certain people's gears

941
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 4: who have been covering this sport for a year.

942
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: I get that. I get that.

943
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: But outside of that, outside of somebody who's pretending to

944
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 4: have a deep understanding of all of the nuances of

945
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 4: the WNBA and the game outside of that, if I'm

946
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: just interested and I'm commenting on a new storyline, and

947
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 4: I'm talking about a human interest aspect of a young

948
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: woman who is trying as a rookie, is trying to

949
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 4: bring more people under the tent, and the the the

950
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 4: not so subtle rebukes from not only the league, but

951
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 4: her teammates as well that I could connect to.

952
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: Let me connect to it.

953
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: Don't force me out by saying, hey, you don't pass

954
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 4: our purities test because you can't name the Jonas brothers.

955
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's pure gatekeeping. And here's the irony of

956
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: all of it. So I have a lot of female

957
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: friends that work in the sports business, as most of

958
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: us do, who work, you know, in this field, and

959
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: they always get upset because when they are either out

960
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: on dates or out with friends and they're like, yeah,

961
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: I work in sports or I'm into sports, the toxic

962
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: masculinity is always, oh, name five players from the nineteen

963
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: twenty seven Yankees.

964
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 3: It's an immediate quiz, yes, yeah.

965
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: And it's the is that on the other side, So

966
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: it's like pot cauling the kettle black hello, and I listen.

967
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: Gatekeeping is a natural human reaction to jealousy. We get

968
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: jealous that someone else is infringing on our territory and

969
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: we push back. It is a natural human emotion. I

970
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: get it, but you have to see you have to

971
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: have the self awareness that it's happening, because it's happening

972
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: at a at the highest level. Brian, you just played

973
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: the clip on ESPN, the highest level, the highest level

974
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: of sports media. One of the most respected sports media

975
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: personalities in our era is abstaining from giving an opinion

976
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: on sports because he's afraid he's gonna get cooked like

977
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: Steven A got cooked. That is the wrong message. We

978
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: should not be afraid people who work in sports media

979
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 1: to give our opinions about any sport. If someone asked

980
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: me about the French Open this morning, I would give

981
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: them my opinion. How many matches have I watched? Zero?

982
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: I still have enough general knowledge of what's happening at

983
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: Roland Garros to tell you who's the favorite and who

984
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: I think is going to win. Does that mean that

985
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm the expert. No, But we are human beings. We

986
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: have opinions. Don't gate keep us on something that should

987
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: be a beautiful thing. Caitlin Clark is revitalizing a sport

988
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: that is in desperate need of renovation. It's like a

989
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: fixer upper the WNBA. It's getting fixed up. It's getting

990
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: the renovation right. We're gutting the kitchen. But it ain't

991
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna work if the contractors are getting questioned by the

992
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: house owner every time they try to make a move

993
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: to make sure they know where every pipe goes. Just

994
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: let them do their job. Let Caitlin Clark do her thing.

995
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: Let her revitalize this league, and let's see where the

996
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: dust settles in a couple of years, and let's see

997
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: where the WNBA is. But it ain't gonna be as

998
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: high as it could be if everyone's gate keying us

999
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: out of having an.

1000
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: Opinion real fast. Caitlin Clark. Yesterday she was asked about

1001
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 2: the hard foul from Kennedy Carter and all the conversation

1002
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: that it has generated, and her answer I thought was

1003
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. Here's a portion of what she had to say.

1004
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 4: Sometimes it stinks how much, you know, the conversation is

1005
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 4: outside of basketball and not the product on.

1006
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: The floor and the amazing players that are on the

1007
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: floor and how good they.

1008
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: Are think about this, She's totally right. Yeah's at that answer.

1009
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: If you think about the conversation about the WNBA, we're

1010
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: not breaking down. Hey, did you see Aja Wilson's statline? Yeah,

1011
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: yesterday and matchups. And I understand that from Caitlyn's perspective,

1012
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: you would like that, you would like to be the

1013
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: focus on the play instead of the drama. But the

1014
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: truth here is drama is what's selling. Yeah, and if

1015
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 2: that gets the interest in the WNBA, so freaking be it.

1016
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: Boss did this with the Lakers. He realized that.

1017
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 3: That that's right, it's a show. We got the Laker girls.

1018
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 4: Absolute Yes, Doctor Buss had it right, he said, he

1019
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 4: said the winning time. The whole documentary is based around

1020
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 4: doctor Buss realizing that the NBA is losing money.

1021
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I have an idea.

1022
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 4: Let's let's build a circus, welcome everybody under the tent,

1023
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 4: and then we'll be able to keep the main thing,

1024
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 4: the main thing.

1025
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: That's right. I just people through the door.

1026
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: That absolutely works.

1027
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: But that's where it comes back to what Jared is

1028
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: talking about with gatekeeping. It'd be one thing if Rebecca

1029
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: Lobo and Monica McNutt just said, hey, I disagree, I

1030
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: think this is just competition. I think it was a

1031
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: hard foul. I don't think it's more than that. I

1032
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: have no issue with it. But instead it's oh, you

1033
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about, and they're patting you

1034
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: on the top of the head like, oh good try

1035
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: you don't understand the context and butt out completely different

1036
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: catch fuck keeping. Nothing wrong with saying I disagree, And

1037
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: here's why. It's as soon as you start saying you

1038
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about, that's where you lose people.

1039
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: It is the scene.

1040
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: It's the reverse of the scene from Anchorman when Champkind

1041
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: says to Veronica Corningstone, she.

1042
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: Can't be there's no such thing as an anchor, lady.

1043
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 3: It's anchor.

1044
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: I am so WNBA.

1045
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: Listen the shoes on the other foot, now, you analysts,

1046
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 4: I mean, instead of boxing us out of the conversation

1047
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 4: and saying the only such person who's allowed to talk

1048
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: about the WNBA is a former WNBA player or a

1049
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 4: longtime WNBA analyst, why don't you welcome us in so

1050
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 4: that we can all share in what you've always known

1051
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 4: and always enjoyed, and maybe there'll be more people under your.

1052
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: Tent and fantastic again. Gatekeeping is I think I see

1053
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: it in my space all the time. You know, someone

1054
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: who's new in the area tries to make a splash,

1055
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: and the sharp community he makes it seem like they

1056
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: should be in a mental institution, like what are you

1057
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: talking about? You don't know any Like it's a person

1058
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: giving their opinion about sports, like gambling isn't now part

1059
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: of the conversation. So they're trying to mix it up

1060
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: and they get pushed out and boxed out. And what

1061
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: it does is it is an attempt to silence their voice,

1062
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: because that is just textbook gatekeeping in this situation. If

1063
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: you silence the voices, nobody hears the conversation, and if

1064
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: nobody hears the conversation, nobody shows up. And that to me, like,

1065
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: you're right, get him in the door, see what happens,

1066
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: and then we'll see where the WNBA is in two

1067
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: or three years. Yeah, I think there's a chance that

1068
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: it could be a profitable leak if this continues.

1069
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 3: That's the voice of Jared Smith right there.

1070
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: FSR Betting analyst Rich Ornberger Penn State All American with us.

1071
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm Brian No coming up next. The schedule has been unveiled.

1072
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: What ala carte selections are you going to be making

1073
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: here in the winter time?

1074
00:57:59,240 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: We'll explain.

1075
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,520
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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: So the ball buffet, we have the college football playoff

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Speaker 2: schedule here, when the days are, when the times are.

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Speaker 2: Of course we don't know the teams, but it gives

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Speaker 2: us a taste of what we're going to be looking

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Speaker 2: at here in December and January. And what caught my attention, fellas,

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Speaker 2: is this. If you look at Saturday, December twenty first, okay,

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Speaker 2: there are a couple of games on the menu. On

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Speaker 2: the college side at noon, we'll have a first round

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Speaker 2: playoff game at one pm Texans at the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Then a little bit later that same day four o'clock

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Speaker 2: another college football playoff first round game at four point

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Speaker 2: thirty Steelers at the Ravens. That is a healthy Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Now you're probably going to be doing the side by

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Speaker 2: some action watching both at the same time. But my

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Speaker 2: question is this, we don't expect the college football first

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Speaker 2: round of the playoffs to outrate the NFL, but how

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Speaker 2: much do you think college football playoff games will cut

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Speaker 2: in to NFL ratings. If you're talking Texans, Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens. Again,

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Speaker 2: we don't know the matchups, but say it's Notre Dame

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Speaker 2: playing in one of those windows and they get great ratings. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know we'd be paying attention to.

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Speaker 1: Oh that get into a little bit of the ratings there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How significant do you think the bite is that the

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Speaker 2: playoff games and college football take away from the NFL

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Speaker 2: that Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I think it.

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Speaker 4: Could be significant, I really do. It's Look, if there's

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Speaker 4: one thing that I learned moving on from college football

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Speaker 4: to the NFL, the fan bases are very different. The

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Speaker 4: allegiances are very different. The colors don't run in college football.

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Speaker 4: You know, there are people who will switch what team

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Speaker 4: they root for based on what city they live in professionally,

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Speaker 4: But when you have a favorite in college it's typically

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Speaker 4: because you grew up in Michigan. Your dad was a

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Speaker 4: Michigan your grandpa was a Michigan fan, and you're a

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Speaker 4: Michigan Wolverine fan.

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Speaker 1: Even if you went to you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I don't know, Eastern Michigan, or you went to

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Speaker 4: Southeast Missouri State, you're still a Wolverine fan because it's

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Speaker 4: more important and impactful to you if you're alma mater

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Speaker 4: like mine and Jared.

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Speaker 1: We went to Penn State.

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Speaker 4: You know in your case, b know you you you

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Speaker 4: grew up in a Notre Dame house, or you fell

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Speaker 4: in love with them because they were on TV as

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Speaker 4: a child, like whatever it is. It seems like those

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Speaker 4: allegiances are aren't tested, right, They're there, So I guess

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Speaker 4: my point is if if we have two big enough

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Speaker 4: brands facing off in a really important moment of their season,

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Speaker 4: going head to head against the NFL, I do think

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Speaker 4: it'll take a sizeable bite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll flip the narrative a little bit. Let's say,

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Speaker 1: because the teams might not align, but let's just say

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Speaker 1: that Saturday, December twenty first it was Lions Chiefs. Right,

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Speaker 1: Let's just take the Texans out for a second. Let's

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Speaker 1: say it was Lions Chiefs and then it was Michigan

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Speaker 1: in the playoff.

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Speaker 3: At that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that to me would be a sizeable chunk. Right.

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Speaker 1: But if it's Texans Chiefs and if it's USC Notre Dame, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't I think those are mutually exclusive fan bases.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it will be as big of a

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Speaker 1: of a of a chunk, and you know, you can't play.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the NFL could care less because they're the

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Speaker 1: NFL and they do what they want. But if they

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Speaker 1: knew who the teams were and they could adjust that

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Speaker 1: Saturday game accordingly, maybe they would like I see the

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Speaker 1: Steelers Ravens game in there. I'm not saying this is

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Speaker 1: gonna happen, but you know, if the Maryland Terrapins. But

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Speaker 1: that's also a bad example because I just don't think

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of crossover between Maryland and the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: I honestly think there's a very small selection of teams,

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Speaker 1: the Lions being one of them, right with Michigan, that

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Speaker 1: have that direct allegiance to a college football team. And

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Speaker 1: to Rich's point, I'm born in New York. I'm a

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Speaker 1: Jets fan, I'm a Yankees fan, I'm a Rangers fan,

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Speaker 1: I'm a Knicks fan. But all of those teams have

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Speaker 1: become less in my heart over the years because I

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Speaker 1: cover professional sports a lot, you know, harder, I bet

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Speaker 1: on professional sports a lot more. Penn State will never die,

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Speaker 1: I will be and I don't bet on Penn State

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Speaker 1: for this reason, like especially when they're a favorite, because

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Speaker 1: I can't stand on the I can't even stomach the

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Speaker 1: thought of Penn State winning a game, not covering and

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Speaker 1: me being upset with the outcome. I can't even fathom

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Speaker 1: that as a Hence Nate guy. But for the Jets,

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Speaker 1: I could care less. I could absolutely care Like, like,

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Speaker 1: the Jets cover the spread as like a fifteen point

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Speaker 1: hunderdog and lose by fourteen and I bet the Jets.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy, You're like Jets baby, Kane Green, let's go.

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Speaker 2: I'll just say this, I think that without knowing the

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Speaker 2: matchups of these first round college football playoff games, let's

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Speaker 2: just say one of these games gets eight million people

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Speaker 2: watching it. I guarantee you a lot of those eight

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Speaker 2: million people would have been watching the NFL profit weren't

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Speaker 2: for a college football playoff game, right, Like, So that's

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Speaker 2: the thing is, you could look at it different ways.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to outrate the NFL, but I think

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Speaker 2: it could cut into the audience pretty significant.

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Speaker 1: And I'm curious you consider college football to be like

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Speaker 1: a national like because I consider it more regional. Where's

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Speaker 1: the NFL? I think is more national.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that. I think that college football, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think college football still is national.

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Speaker 2: It's not even close to on an NFL level. I

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Speaker 2: think it's sports regional, though I don't I think that. Listen,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna if you're in SEC country, that's what you're

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Speaker 2: gonna pay attention to. Way more country, no doubt. But

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Speaker 2: I still think that now that it's expanded to twelve teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with sports regional.

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Speaker 2: I do too, but I think when it's compared to

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Speaker 2: the NFL, it seems like it's like on a baseball level, now,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that's the case. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it's that regional.

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Speaker 4: It's easier to compare it to the NFL than it

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Speaker 4: is to baseball. And I agree with what you're saying,

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Speaker 4: like baseball is hyper regional. Like where if you live

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Speaker 4: in the you know, the southwest corner of this country,

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Speaker 4: I mean, good luck giving any update on the AL.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Braids. People live in Carolina, like the Braids. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly right, exactly right. Yeah, because it's just.

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Speaker 4: Nearby television schedules all that type of stuff. And college

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Speaker 4: football can be that way too. But I do think

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Speaker 4: when the field is whittled and the attention of the

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Speaker 4: national media from a sports standpoint turns to college football

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Speaker 4: to say like, hey, we.

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Speaker 1: Got something cooking here.

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Speaker 4: A we have this group of worthwhile players who are

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Speaker 4: going to be matriculating into the NFL, this very national

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Speaker 4: product that we all care about, uh here coming soon,

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Speaker 4: and maybe a good view of how they're going to

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Speaker 4: look in big games and how that may compare to

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Speaker 4: the NFL is coming up in these playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's.

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Speaker 4: When it it really more mimics the NFL is when

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Speaker 4: we do get to the college football postseason, which is

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Speaker 4: only about a decade old, but but it definitely has

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Speaker 4: ensnared more people from a national standpoint.

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Speaker 1: That's a good media, it'll be a good take your point.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see how much, you know, the

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Speaker 1: ratings change over the next couple of years that we

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Speaker 1: get this new iteration of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Let's dive into this right now.

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Speaker 1: It's back to the futures. Maybe we can voice coming back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared, you you've got betting on your brain here

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Speaker 2: with Yamamoto.

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Speaker 3: What are you thinking, oh.

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Speaker 1: Man, guys, so rarely do I see buying opportunities in

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Speaker 1: the futures market is as delicious as this one. So

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Speaker 1: we have a hype situation brewing in the National League

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year market. Now I give show to

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Speaker 1: Imanaga his flowers. He has been the best I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say pitcher, but definitely rookie pitcher in baseball

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Speaker 1: the first two months of the year. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think he has the staying power to continue pitching at

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Speaker 1: this level. Paul Skins, I mean, goodness, crazis Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: hype train after five starts is off the frickin' Sharks.

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Speaker 1: This guy is almost the favorite to win the Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year is the favorite, and Skiens is like

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Speaker 1: right behind him after five starts. And I love Paul Skiing.

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Speaker 1: There's a chance he's gonna win a cy Young one day.

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Speaker 1: But can we can we slow the brake here? Because

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Speaker 1: the Pirates are not making the playoffs, They're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: be out of it come September first, And if I'm

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's brain traws, there's no way this kid's pitching past

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Speaker 1: September first. Like I just I would not allow it

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Speaker 1: to happen because you need him for future years. You

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Speaker 1: need to milk every inning out of this guy when

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Speaker 1: you're actually in the race in future seasons. So I

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Speaker 1: think the Skeens hype train's gonna get derailed at some

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Speaker 1: point later this summer. And there's Yoshinobo Iamamoto sitting there

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Speaker 1: right now at five to one after a unbelievable start

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Speaker 1: last night in the Bronx. I know they didn't have

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Speaker 1: won Soto, but he shut down the best lineup in

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Speaker 1: baseball for seven innings, and you could still get this

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Speaker 1: guy as the third favorite to win the NL Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year. He had all the hype coming into

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Speaker 1: the season, and then of course had that bad start

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Speaker 1: in the Seal Series and that kind of derailed him.

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Speaker 1: But I think this guy is the best rookie pitcher

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Speaker 1: in baseball right now. I think he will have the

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Speaker 1: full sample. The Dodgers will be in the race for

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Speaker 1: the entire summer. They're probably gonna win the West. I

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Speaker 1: just think this is a great bet to make. I

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Speaker 1: think the odds are gonna go significantly lower over the

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Speaker 1: next month or two, and I think Yamamoto mister at

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Speaker 1: will win the NL Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Make this bet now, guys, interesting stuff?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do we think?

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I love what you're thinking because what you're saying with

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Speaker 2: Skeens makes a lot of sense. Where they they might

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Speaker 2: shut him down. It's more of like a who's the

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Speaker 2: national spitcher?

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of Strawsburg draws right. I consider Skins like

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Speaker 1: a shooting star. He's gonna burn Cotten fast.

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Speaker 2: Right where you don't want to burn him out right,

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Speaker 2: and if you're not in contention, I could see them

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Speaker 2: potentially shutting him down earlier. I think what's really interesting

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Speaker 2: with Shoda Monaga is he was so electric early in

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Speaker 2: the season where that's gonna work against him sadly in

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Speaker 2: the NL Rookie of the Year race, because he's gonna

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Speaker 2: look like he's slipped. He hasn't maintained the same pace.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a weird feeling. Instead of looking at

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Speaker 2: his body of work for the full season, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: feel like, well, he's regressed quite a bit, and that's

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Speaker 2: probably not fair, but you got to take advantage of

1289
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: that in the betting market, and if you know how

1290
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: the votes are likely to go, you can take an

1291
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 2: advantage of that with Yamamoto.

1292
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 3: So I like what you're thinking here.

1293
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: I do too.

1294
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 4: I think that Yamamoto really he I think he splashed

1295
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 4: in Seoul, South Korea, like the last big, big headline

1296
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 4: he had because it was only series going at that point.

1297
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 4: It was the MLB opener, there was a little press

1298
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 4: around it. He really struggled against the Padres when the

1299
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 4: Padres and Dodgers played themselves played each other in that

1300
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 4: weird one off. Since then, I mean he had one

1301
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 4: tough month, he had one bad month, the month of March.

1302
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 4: Since then, he's been on fire. And we know how

1303
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 4: it goes with the Dodgers. This team always gained steam

1304
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 4: down the stretch, and so I do think.

1305
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, look these it's no it's no uh uh,

1306
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: it's no hidden storyline.

1307
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 4: These are popularity contests, you know, Rookie of the Year,

1308
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 4: m VP votes. It goes to an important, impactful player,

1309
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 4: but it also goes to a very popular player. I

1310
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 4: think Yamamoto will be there at the end of the season.

1311
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,839
Speaker 4: I think there's great value on this. I like this,

1312
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: this futures bet.

1313
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: Yama rookie love the name as wells Right off the tongue.

1314
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: I love saying just because that's the whole reason I'm

1315
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: betting you guys. I just want to say the name.

1316
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 2: You just shoehorn some stats and figures and logic. It's

1317
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: just just the name. So we got Jared Smith FSR.

1318
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: Betting analyst rich Orenberger, Penn State, All American. He will

1319
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: blow towards some pork shoulder over there, and I'm I'm

1320
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: Brian though here in.

1321
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: The New York Big Apple.

1322
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, might stop buy and say hi to Aaron

1323
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: Rodgers for you.

1324
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: H Ask him how his achilles is doing.

1325
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 3: He looks a little yeah, yeah, that lit'll ball.

1326
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's all right, hopefully, okay, all right, right around

1327
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: the corner. Prop bets galore. A lot of different possibilities here, NBA, NHL,

1328
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: we got golf going on baseball of course, a lot

1329
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: of options. We'll compare notes coming up. It is Fox

1330
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox

1331
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,639
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1332
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 3: You know what, We're just gonna cut to the chase.

1333
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 3: Let's do this.

1334
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 5: Prop it up player plays.

1335
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, so many prop bet opportunities.

1336
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: Jared.

1337
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,799
Speaker 3: We'll start with you. What is on your menu?

1338
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: Sir, well, I'll give you an NBA prop because I

1339
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: think we haven't talked a little whole lot about how

1340
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: we're betting Game two yet. We did give you some

1341
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 1: thoughts on Game one of this series. But I think

1342
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna trust that the Mavericks give us

1343
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: a better effort offensively, and I'm gonna go to Kyrie

1344
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go over twenty two and a half points.

1345
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy because it goes against everything

1346
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: we saw in Game one, but usually that's where the

1347
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: value lies. And again, what did we see in Game one, Well,

1348
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: the volume was there. He took nineteen shots, if I

1349
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: tell you, and this is without taking a shot in

1350
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter at all because of the blowout. If

1351
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 1: I fast forward to Sunday, guys and I say Kyrie

1352
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: takes nineteen shots again, I feel pretty good. He's going

1353
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: over twenty two and a half points. So we saw

1354
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: Boston switch. They're not gonna overhelp. They're gonna allow Kyrie

1355
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: to get his shot if he wants it. I think

1356
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 1: twenty two and a half points a very fair number

1357
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: for you know, the guy that has to play well

1358
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 1: in order for Dallas to win, So I'll go Kyrie

1359
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: Irving over twenty two and a half points.

1360
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 4: We're both on Kyrie, but different parts of his game.

1361
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 4: I think he's going to have more than the four

1362
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 4: assists that I see him mark that look.

1363
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: That's been a big part of the evolution and the

1364
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 1: maturity of Kyrie Irving's game.

1365
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 4: He's always had good court vision, but I think since

1366
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 4: he's left Lebron James, he's played more hero ball. But

1367
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, playing with Luka Doncic, he realizes, oh,

1368
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes the best shot isn't my shot, And

1369
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 4: so I think he's gonna share the basketball a lot more.

1370
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 4: In this upcoming game, christops porzingis his point total at

1371
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 4: fifteen and a half.

1372
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm taking I'm taking the under there.

1373
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 4: Here's the reason why so Chris stops porzingis he played

1374
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 4: twenty minutes for the first time in forty days.

1375
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: And he had a really good game, highly emotional game.

1376
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: Lot of bender g expenditure. Have you ever heard of doms?

1377
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: It's delayed on set muscle soreness.

1378
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 4: It sets in in about two days after a lift.

1379
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 4: Like if you ever notice, you you know, maybe you

1380
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 4: go really heavy bench press one day or you do

1381
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,440
Speaker 4: a bunch of pushups.

1382
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: Well, it's not usually.

1383
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 4: The next day, it's usually two days later. You feel

1384
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 4: the soreness, you feel the fatigue and the muscle. That

1385
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 4: is what Chris topsportzingis is gonna be feeling. I bet

1386
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 4: those arms feel heavy, and I bet he hits thunder

1387
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 4: on his point total.

1388
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So the first prop I have circled.

1389
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,520
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Derek Lively over six and a half rebounds,

1390
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: and here's what I'm thinking. So he was in foul

1391
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: trouble in game one, he had five fouls, he only

1392
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: played eighteen minutes. He had five rebounds in eighteen minutes,

1393
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 2: and so it was coupled with the foul trouble like

1394
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 2: I mentioned, and some garbage time at the end where

1395
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: he might have been left in the game even with

1396
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 2: those five files late if it's a closer game. So

1397
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: I think heading into game two and Boston shot the

1398
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: lights out, they shot a really good percentage, So I

1399
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: think that getting to seven rebounds for Derek Lively, I

1400
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen.

1401
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 3: So I've got that circled.

1402
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,480
Speaker 2: And if you want a bit of a long shot play, yeah,

1403
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 2: you have Al Horford, who was great in Game one,

1404
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,480
Speaker 2: had two blocks.

1405
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: If you go under half a block, that sounds it.

1406
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: If you go under zero point five blocks, right, you're

1407
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: gonna have probably more playing time for porzingis maybe the

1408
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: MAVs they don't test Horford as much, not as many

1409
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: opportunities to block a shot. It's at plus one seventy

1410
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 2: five for Horford to not have a block. Again, I

1411
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: don't love the idea of him having zero blocks, but

1412
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: it's possible, and at that payout, if you're looking at

1413
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: a little bit of a longer shot, I think that's

1414
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 2: got a possibility to hit.

1415
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 3: If you're looking for that type of payout.

1416
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: I like that. I like searching for plus money on

1417
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: the props because it's like you watch these games, it's

1418
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: all coin flips. And to be on the right side

1419
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: of that plus money. If you can find narratives that

1420
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 1: make sense, I think you get a lot of value there.

1421
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, just dive on in those waters. You know you

1422
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 3: can involve that in there.

1423
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, come it up next, stupid rule or

1424
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: stupid play years.

1425
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: Oh what is going on? Everybody?

1426
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: Hope you having a fantastic Saturday morning. So we've got

1427
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: another gambler gambling gone wrong over here, it would be

1428
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 2: Lukapita Marcano. He has Hawk Harrelson once said he going

1429
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 2: great baseball announcer, former player also shout out to Hawk.

1430
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, Luca pedayh grab some bitch. That was one

1431
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: of my favorites too. But our guy lukapeda ultimate. He

1432
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: was busy betting on baseball.

1433
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 4: He was talking about he was doing a bad job

1434
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 4: betting one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

1435
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: We're talking about one hundred and fifty k bet on baseball. Wow,

1436
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 2: eighty seven thousand was on MLB games and like you're

1437
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 2: talking about rich. He had a four point three percent

1438
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: success rate, which I was he just having like fifteen

1439
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: team parlays, like fifteen leg parlays, and I hope so

1440
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 2: that's the only way that percentage would make any sense.

1441
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 2: But he's banned for life. The official term is indefinitely.

1442
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's one.

1443
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: Of these deals where it's like I just I don't

1444
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: have any patience for any athlete who bets on their

1445
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: own sport yep, because it's clear as day this is

1446
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: what happens when you do that. I have no idea

1447
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 2: why you would literally gamble with your career by gambling

1448
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:45,719
Speaker 2: on your sport.

1449
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 3: It just makes no sense whatsoever.

1450
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.

1451
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 4: And I mean, and I would just stay away from

1452
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 4: it altogether while you're playing.

1453
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. Don't get me wrong. Vices

1454
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 1: are fun.

1455
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 4: You know, people drink, people smoke, People get involved in

1456
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 4: things that they know aren't good for them. I don't

1457
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 4: necessarily think that for everybody, those things aren't necessarily good

1458
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 4: for them. Some people are socially awkward, and if they

1459
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with alcohol, having a couple of

1460
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 4: drinks before a family party or a group gathering, you know,

1461
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,959
Speaker 4: where it's socially acceptable to have a glass of champagne

1462
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 4: in your hand or whatever it may be. Maybe that's

1463
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 4: a social lubricant for you. You know, it's almost medicinal.

1464
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 1: At that point.

1465
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,480
Speaker 4: But like when we're talking about sports betting, it's entertainment

1466
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 4: for this short window that you have. Because baseball players,

1467
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 4: football players, hockey, it doesn't matter, basketball, whatever sport you play, you're.

1468
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: Making other sacrifices to be at that level.

1469
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 4: You know, you're not somebody who's you know, unavailable mentally

1470
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 4: from a bandwidth standpoint to making sacrifices. You've done it

1471
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 4: your whole life, so just add one more sacrifice.

1472
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 2: Right.

1473
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sports bet while I'm doing this thing

1474
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 4: that I'm doing, because if somehow I accidentally click the

1475
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,560
Speaker 4: wrong button, I'm either gonna have to tell on myself

1476
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 4: because those are the rules, or I'm going to have

1477
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 4: to chance fate and hope that I don't get caught.

1478
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: So just stay away from it.

1479
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 4: But to compete Marcano, he joins Pete Rose as the

1480
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 4: only other Major League Baseball player to serve a lifetime ban.

1481
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 4: We'll see you know, like you said, it's in. It's

1482
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 4: classified as indefinite. Maybe it gets overturned. I would highly

1483
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,040
Speaker 4: doubt it, because the other part of this story is

1484
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 4: Major League Baseball and all of these sports leagues.

1485
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: They are looking for examples to be made. They want

1486
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: to make.

1487
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 4: Sure that there are low cost examples, like a guy

1488
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 4: like Marcano, who, let's be honest, he's barely had a

1489
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 4: major league.

1490
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: Heard him this story.

1491
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's he's been a minor leaguer who's bounced

1492
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 4: up to major league rosters here and there. He's he's

1493
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 4: he was injured when he was making all these bets like.

1494
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 4: You know, he's not a name that cuts through at all,

1495
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 4: but he is a low cost example to be made.

1496
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 4: Major League Baseball doesn't lose a high prize talent.

1497
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1498
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 4: This isn't somebody who's going to you know, break through

1499
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 4: and end up hitting forty home runs for the Yankees

1500
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 4: one day, so they.

1501
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: Get to make an example of you and they move on.

1502
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: Don't be the example. Just stay away from him. Yeah,

1503
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 1: So there's two I have two tracks of thinking here.

1504
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: The first track is the initial pushback to the story

1505
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:50,480
Speaker 1: from the national talking heads that say gambling's ruining professional sports?

1506
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: All right, are we going to go back to prohibition

1507
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: every time someone gets killed in a duy like it? No,

1508
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: let's relax on that now, narrative. This is a bad actor.

1509
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: There's bad actors everywhere, and we need to just root

1510
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 1: out the bad eggs and not focus on the actual

1511
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: act of gambling. Because if it's not gambling, it'll be

1512
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 1: performance enhancing drugs. If it's not performance and hancing drugs,

1513
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: it'll be something else that an athlete commits a you know,

1514
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: misstep and and and has to be suspended. So let's

1515
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: not focus on the act. Let's focus on the person

1516
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: in this situation. I think the punishment fits the crime.

1517
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 1: This is a pretty egregious act. There are some other

1518
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: players that were named in this suspension, you know news

1519
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: that dropped earlier this week, low level minor league players.

1520
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 1: One guy bet like one hundred dollars total. Like, these

1521
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: are kids making mistakes and they should be held accountable

1522
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: for those mistakes. But we need to stop with the

1523
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: gambling is ruining for national sports, you know narrative here,

1524
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: because if it wasn't, this is the system working properly.

1525
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: Like if they weren't doing it legally, they're betting legally

1526
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: on shore. If they weren't doing it legally on short

1527
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: you think they wouldn't bet offshore illegally, Like it's still happening,

1528
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: but when you regulate the market, like it is now

1529
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 1: being regulated by our friends at bet MGM and all

1530
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: the other sports books out there in the ecosystem that

1531
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 1: have partners and regulatory partners and you know GEO comply partners,

1532
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: so you're doing it in the right state and the

1533
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: right locale. The system is working properly. Let the system work,

1534
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: Let's weed out the bad actors, and let's then continue

1535
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: with our lives because I don't think this might be

1536
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: a bad example. But I don't think Shoe aotan he's

1537
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 1: out there betting millions of dollars on baseball. I think

1538
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 1: in general, these are a few bad actors that are

1539
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: just breaking the rules and they need to be held

1540
01:22:58,400 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: accountable for. Yeah.

1541
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: It's interesting, man, because if like, alcohol is everywhere, right,

1542
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 2: and if let's say a baseball player got drunk and

1543
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,719
Speaker 2: then compounded it by driving or getting into a fight

1544
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 2: or doing something even more stupid can drink again, right,

1545
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 2: we would look at it and say he made a

1546
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 2: bad choice.

1547
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: Yep.

1548
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 2: I don't know why we don't look at that the

1549
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: same way when it comes to gambling. Why don't we

1550
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: just look at these minor league players and we'll get

1551
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: to the pass and audio. But it's like their names

1552
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: were on their account, Yeah, betting on under their own name.

1553
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: It's like bad, He's made a bad choice. It's a

1554
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 2: horrible decision. So I don't know why you would look

1555
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: at it differently. If it's alcohol, you're like, bad decision.

1556
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: If it's gambling, you're like, well, this is because it's everywhere, ya,

1557
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 2: so is alcohol. I don't understand it's such a disconnect

1558
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: core field, right, like right, yeah, it's just strange. But

1559
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 2: here's Jeff passing a couple of things that he had

1560
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:03,480
Speaker 2: to say. One for anyone who's like, well, these punishments

1561
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 2: are a little heavy handed. Here here's what Jeff Passon

1562
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: had to say on the Pat McAfee show.

1563
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:11,600
Speaker 7: You see, when you walk into a big league clubhouse

1564
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 7: every time, regardless of its spring training, minor leagues, major leagues,

1565
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 7: when you're in a professional clubhouse, do you see rule

1566
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 7: twenty one right there?

1567
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 5: It is plain and simple.

1568
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 7: It is in English, and it is in Spanish, and

1569
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 7: it says unequivocally, do not bet on baseball.

1570
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: Boom right there. There's no excuse for betting on your

1571
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 2: own sport. And the other thing that Passon had to

1572
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 2: say is this on the Pat McAfee show.

1573
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 3: Check this out.

1574
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 7: I think the most surprising elements of this to me

1575
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 7: wasn't that guys for gambling.

1576
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 1: It was that they.

1577
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 7: Were just so brazen in how they put their names

1578
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 7: on their accounts, and they were essentially like narked out

1579
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,520
Speaker 7: by gambling operators.

1580
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: What are we doing? Come on, man?

1581
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: If like, if you're gonna speed on the highway, you

1582
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 2: gotta be a little savvy about it, you know, I

1583
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 2: don't think that you just blow by a cop who's

1584
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 2: on the road, right, Like, what are you doing right?

1585
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 3: If you're gonna gamble on.

1586
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,600
Speaker 1: Your own sport, at least.

1587
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 2: Don't bet under your actual name. What are you doing here?

1588
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 2: So that's where I don't know somebody. It doesn't need

1589
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,480
Speaker 2: to be more complicated than horrible decision.

1590
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 3: Be smarter. It's nothing more complex than that.

1591
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 4: I loved sports as a kid because it gave me

1592
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 4: an outlet for all the energy I had, and it was,

1593
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 4: you know, a great release.

1594
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 1: I looked at it, as you know.

1595
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 4: Football especially as like a sanctuary, Like it was a

1596
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 4: quiet time for me where you didn't you could block

1597
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 4: out all the other stresses you had going on in

1598
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 4: your life and you could just focus on the game

1599
01:25:58,880 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 4: the moment.

1600
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: You were very present in those moments.

1601
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 4: And then as I you know, grew and I continue

1602
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 4: playing sports through college, and I realize, wow, there are

1603
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 4: occupations like completely tied to this game. I really never

1604
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 4: thought about it that way, like, wow, this sport could

1605
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 4: be work, like it could be what you wake up,

1606
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 4: you know, pour your first cup of coffee thinking about

1607
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 4: every single day. I really never cross that line mentally.

1608
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 4: And then you know, as you get into the NFL

1609
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 4: and you start looking around the room and you start

1610
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 4: being asked questions by younger athletes.

1611
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,879
Speaker 1: Like what does it take to get to the NFL.

1612
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 4: You know, you tell them the right things, obviously, working hard, dedication,

1613
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 4: making sacrifices. You're not gonna be the guy who's out

1614
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 4: laid partying every night, because you're gonna have to wake

1615
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 4: up and get in the gym, and you're gonna have

1616
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 4: to do certain things that your other friends aren't willing

1617
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 4: to make sacrifices for. And then that brings you to

1618
01:26:54,920 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 4: this next inevitable step. Sports are by nature unfair, like

1619
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,759
Speaker 4: sometimes I'm telling you right now, the best football player

1620
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 4: to ever live never made it to the NFL. And

1621
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 4: it's not because of the reasons you'd think. It's not

1622
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 4: because of you know, because he was in it wasn't

1623
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 4: the right time, or injury. It's because he flunked out

1624
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: of school, or it's because he got wrapped up in

1625
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 4: a gang, or it's because you know, he had bad

1626
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 4: parents and you know, you know, a situation at home

1627
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 4: distracted him from his college career, or you know, maybe

1628
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 4: it's a player who decided to go home and help

1629
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 4: the family because they were running low on money and

1630
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 4: he had to get a job. Like the best football

1631
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 4: player to ever live, you know, better than Dickerson as

1632
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 4: a running back, better than Randy Moss as a wide receiver,

1633
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 4: Jerry Rice never played the sport at the highest level

1634
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 4: because I'm telling you something else wiped them out. And

1635
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 4: it's Darwinism. It's survival of the fittest. And sometimes it's

1636
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 4: not fair. Sometimes the fittest doesn't survive, and sometimes it's

1637
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:04,720
Speaker 4: just survivor who survives. So with Major League Baseball and

1638
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 4: all these other sports leagues with this gambling aspect, you know,

1639
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,799
Speaker 4: a gambling sports betting aspect that is strictly forbidden.

1640
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: This is just thinning of the herd.

1641
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 4: Good player, bad player, you know, smart player, dumb player,

1642
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 4: ignorant player, you know, well informed player. If you do

1643
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 4: certain things, you're gonna get snuffed, and if you do

1644
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 4: enough stupid things, you're going to be a liability and

1645
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 4: teams won't want you.

1646
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,559
Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter how talented you are.

1647
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 4: This is just another way the third the herd gets thinner,

1648
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 4: and it's interesting to see it play out because we're

1649
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 4: eventually going to see a really important prospect or potentially

1650
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 4: a really important player in one of these leagues get

1651
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 4: wrapped up in one of these scandals and suffer the consequences.

1652
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 4: And it's going to be a storyline for weeks and

1653
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 4: maybe months and maybe be a great cautionary tale. And

1654
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 4: I think it's the one that we need, because I

1655
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 4: don't think this has cut through enough. That's the reason

1656
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 4: why these ballplayers we're so brazen, because I don't think

1657
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 4: the message has been sent, you know, in an ostentatious

1658
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 4: enough way for people to be paying attention to it,

1659
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 4: or at least all ballplayers to be paying attention to it.

1660
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Guess what, guys, Gamba's not going anywhere. No, it isn't.

1661
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 1: This show ain't going anywhere. Gamba's not going anywhere. Millions

1662
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars are being exchanged from the leagues

1663
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: to the sportsbooks and vice versa. With the way that

1664
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: the advertising is built. Do I think we need regulations

1665
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 1: and you know, guardrails for some of the advertising. Yes,

1666
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 1: is it in your face all the time? Absolutely? So

1667
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: is alcohol, So is fast food so or all the

1668
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: other vices that are unhealthy. It is on you the

1669
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: person to have discipline, like being a professional athlete. I

1670
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 1: don't know what that is like rich does, but I

1671
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: know what it's like to wake up every day and

1672
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: to treat what I do as a job. Like I

1673
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: don't make money from you know, I don't derive my

1674
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: income from gambling, but I derive my my livelihood from

1675
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: talking about it and being a responsible actor in the

1676
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: space to be able to, you know, show people that

1677
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: you can do this as a hobby and you don't

1678
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: have to be a degenerate. Like gambling can be fun,

1679
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: it can be entertaining, It can be your instead of

1680
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: spending one hundred dollars to go out to the movies

1681
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: on a Friday night. It could be the replacement for that.

1682
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: But if you abuse it, just like you abuse anything else.

1683
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 1: If you eat a million cheeseburgers from McDonald's, you're gonna

1684
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,799
Speaker 1: get fat. If you smoke a million cigarettes from wherever,

1685
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get lung cancer. If you drink a

1686
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: lot of you know, alcohol every day, you're probably gonna

1687
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 1: get liver poison. Like those are the things that happen

1688
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: when you use of ice and when you are not

1689
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 1: allowed to even touch that advice to begin with, well,

1690
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 1: then it's probably gonna end bad for you.

1691
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 3: No, it's well said. Man, all you guys made great points, and.

1692
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm just we keep talking about this where it seems

1693
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: like we have the next example of hey, don't do

1694
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 2: this because this is the punishment. We just had John

1695
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 2: tay Porter in the NBA.

1696
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 1: That was really bad. He was fixing his own games. Yeah,

1697
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: that was.

1698
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 2: Now we've got a baseball player suspended for life or

1699
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 2: quote unquote indefinitely, and it's still happening, and the reaction

1700
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 2: turns out to be, oh, well, it's the the gambling

1701
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 2: space and this is what happens when it's like, I

1702
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: just think that's the wrong way to look at it.

1703
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 2: It's just making bad choices, bad decisions. And to me,

1704
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 2: in my mind, it goes back to the drinking thing.

1705
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 2: If you look at someone who abuses alcohol hall and

1706
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 2: you say, hey, that was just a bad choice. If

1707
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,879
Speaker 2: you have another example in another sport, and another example

1708
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 2: in another sport, why does your thinking then change to oh, well,

1709
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: it's it's alcohol. It's everywhere. I mean right, Like, no,

1710
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 2: these are just bad choices. It's an even worse choice

1711
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,799
Speaker 2: when you have recent examples of being banned for life

1712
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 2: or suspended for a year by betting on your sport

1713
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 2: and you still do it, that makes it even worse.

1714
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't make it any more complicated than that.

1715
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:37,679
Speaker 2: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR,

1716
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 2: betting analyst. I'm Brian No all right, coming up next.

1717
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: This is a reason that doesn't even sound real. I

1718
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 2: won't lay it out for you right around the court

1719
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 2: or a horrible logic. It is Fox Sports Saturday, right

1720
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,360
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.

1721
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1722
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

1723
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 2: Shout out to Nick Cope with US Today. He had

1724
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 2: this in his update last hour. Caitlin Clark left off

1725
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 2: the Olympic team for women's basketball, obviously, And this is

1726
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 2: a report from Christine Brennan. She does great work for

1727
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: USA Today, and I'm just going to read a portion

1728
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 2: of her latest article.

1729
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: She wrote.

1730
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 2: Two sources, both longtime US basketball veterans with decades of

1731
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 2: experience in the women's game, told USA Today Sports Friday

1732
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: that concerns over how Clark's millions of fans would react

1733
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 2: to what would likely be limited playing time on a

1734
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 2: stacked roster was a factor in the decision making. If

1735
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: that's true, what are we doing? Are you kidding me?

1736
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 2: Just get the best roster possible. And if you look

1737
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 2: at this also and say, hey, what's gonna grow, oh,

1738
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:06,839
Speaker 2: women's basketball more? Is it Caitlyn Clark and her huge

1739
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 2: fan base on the Olympic stage fighting for the country,

1740
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 2: or is it Diana Tarassi who's gonna turn forty two

1741
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 2: on Tuesday? You know, come on, what's gonna do more

1742
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 2: for women's basketball? And yet there's a possibility that Caitlyn

1743
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 2: was left off the Olympic team because the suits making

1744
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 2: these decisions are like, yeah, but her fan base, you

1745
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 2: know how they are, They're gonna be ticked when she's

1746
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 2: not getting minutes out there. I really hope that's not true,

1747
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 2: because that is obnoxiously idiotic.

1748
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 3: If it is true, that's crazy.

1749
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 4: Well, listen, this is the reason why. Then this is

1750
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 4: a part of the conversation that I have with you guys.

1751
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,320
Speaker 4: Often when debates Ray je On about Pro Bowl snubs

1752
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 4: or All Star snubs or this Hall of Famer should

1753
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 4: have been inducted or all fair, it's like it missed

1754
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 4: me with all of it.

1755
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 1: I hate these things.

1756
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the Olympics,

1757
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:11,480
Speaker 4: and I understand.

1758
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 1: How sports work. Like sports are I just said it before.

1759
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: They're unfair. They're innately unfair.

1760
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:21,080
Speaker 4: Like it's survival of the fittest, and sometimes the fittest

1761
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:22,240
Speaker 4: doesn't always survive.

1762
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: And this is one of those cases.

1763
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 4: Where extenuating circumstances is the reason why Caitlin Clark isn't

1764
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 4: going to be an Olympian. Huh, Like, it doesn't make sense,

1765
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel fair, and sports aren't fair.

1766
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 1: But what a missed opportunity.

1767
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 4: I really, the only people you're hurting are the people

1768
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 4: in that room. The US women's basketball team would have

1769
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,799
Speaker 4: so much more buzz heading to Paris than they would

1770
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:55,839
Speaker 4: hit with with her as opposed to without her. It's

1771
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 4: just it's a head scratcher. And I think it is

1772
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:05,799
Speaker 4: a reaction to how volatile a storyline Christ and Clark

1773
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 4: has been, because it doesn't feel like the players, or

1774
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 4: the analysts or the coaches maybe who cover play or

1775
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 4: coach the sport can handle this. And and in the

1776
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 4: pressure cooker, they made the wrong decision.

1777
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, guys, it kind of fits

1778
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 1: the narrative of everything we talked about in the last

1779
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,680
Speaker 1: hour about this story, and not this story, but the

1780
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 1: whole Caitlyn Clark debate, like the gate I mean, she's

1781
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: being gate kept off the off the team of you

1782
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,880
Speaker 1: team us, Like we're being gate kept. I don't know

1783
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,400
Speaker 1: if that's the past tense of the verb, but you

1784
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: understand what I mean. Yeah, we're being you know, the

1785
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:47,600
Speaker 1: gatekeeping is happening to us, the non WA fan, the

1786
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 1: non WWNBA fan, trying to talk about the WNBA in

1787
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 1: a you know, I think logical way, as most sports

1788
01:36:55,320 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: talk people do sometimes. And now Caitlin is being e

1789
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:05,520
Speaker 1: kept off of the team because they're afraid of backlash

1790
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: from fans. Real this this is a this is I

1791
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,600
Speaker 1: don't even really know how to characterize this because I

1792
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: haven't had a whole I've had a whole lot of

1793
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 1: time to digest it because it just got it just broke,

1794
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 1: and I saw Christin Brennant's tweet getting you know, tossed

1795
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: around the you know, the the social media space with

1796
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: the anonymous sources. But it kind of fits what we're

1797
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 1: all hearing here. It kind of fits the narrative of

1798
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 1: the WNBA has no idea. It kind of reminds me

1799
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: actually of like a young star in any industry when

1800
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 1: they get that initial success, sometimes they just can't handle

1801
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:48,080
Speaker 1: it and they make decisions that are not in line

1802
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: with the decision making process that got them to the

1803
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: stardom in the first place. The WNBA has now been

1804
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: given the gift of Caitlin Clark. How does the women's

1805
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: basketball community handle it? They haven't handled it that well

1806
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 1: so far. It's a lot of gatekeeping, a lot of jealousy,

1807
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: a lot of anger. This decision to keep her off

1808
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: the team feels like it's kind of in line with that, right.

1809
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. I think they messed it up on

1810
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 2: both hands. Where if you're just looking for the best

1811
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 2: roster possible again you go to if you could just

1812
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: compare Diana Tarossi what she's done this season to Caitlyn Clark.

1813
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark has more points, more rebounds, more assists. Now

1814
01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 2: the points and rebounds are close, but the assist Caitlyn

1815
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 2: has over six assists per game. Diana has won per game,

1816
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, And so I don't think they have the

1817
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:50,280
Speaker 2: best roster possible and then there's no debate as far

1818
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 2: as buzz traction ratings. What will grow women's basketball more?

1819
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 2: Diana Tarossi's on her way out. I mean, props to

1820
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 2: her for lasting this long. She's about to turn forty two, right,

1821
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: And so if it's the better player, it's Caitlyn.

1822
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 3: She's off the team.

1823
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 2: If it's more buzz and what grows the game more

1824
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,720
Speaker 2: going forward, it's Caitlyn Clark and she got left off.

1825
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 3: They screwed it up twice.

1826
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, however you look at it, it's Caitlyn should get

1827
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 2: the nod. But I don't know, man, That's that is

1828
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 2: the dumbest reason to me, is to think, oh man,

1829
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: there might be backless soft.

1830
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,480
Speaker 3: It's so soft to have a backbone.

1831
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 2: Man, if they complain, they complain, Yeah, why would you

1832
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 2: only look at it from that point of view?

1833
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 4: And also, it really is it's cutting off your nose

1834
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 4: in some ways to spike your face. Like I understand,

1835
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 4: maybe maybe some of the people who are in charge

1836
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 4: of making this decision didn't feel like they wanted to

1837
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 4: deal with the smoke. In terms of the Caitlyn Clark

1838
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,720
Speaker 4: fans complaining maybe misunderstanding her place in this thing.

1839
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 1: Complaining about or playing time. But who knows.

1840
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 4: Maybe you get this group of women together and they

1841
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 4: start practicing and you go, oh, geez, you know what,

1842
01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 4: She's gonna get more playing time than we thought, Like, like, how.

1843
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 1: Do you know before you know?

1844
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 4: Like you know, it's it's so, it's just it's so

1845
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 4: confounding to me to make that decision in the first place,

1846
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 4: especially like you just laid out, Brian, that there are

1847
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:28,520
Speaker 4: women who will make this team who from a statistical,

1848
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:32,759
Speaker 4: a measurable standpoint, may deserve it less than her. It's again,

1849
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 4: it's another chapter in what has been a bizarre start

1850
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 4: to the story of Caitlin Clark's professional career.

1851
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,880
Speaker 1: It feels like every.

1852
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:49,680
Speaker 4: Single thing the WNBA or now Team USA could do

1853
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 4: to gate keep.

1854
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: More people from enjoying their sport, they're doing. So that's fine.

1855
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 4: I enjoy this league being shuddered in a couple of

1856
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 4: years as a result of nobody paying attention to it,

1857
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 4: because that is what happens when businesses start rebuking the

1858
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 4: interest of their consumers, you start losing your consumers.

1859
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: Jealousy is is really tough. And I just got a

1860
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: tweet from a you know, someone who follows me and

1861
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 1: and you know chimes in off the time, and they

1862
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,640
Speaker 1: kept their off the Olympic team because a bunch of

1863
01:41:25,680 --> 01:41:27,799
Speaker 1: older players the wanter on the team. Jealousy and hatred

1864
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. Thank you Jeff Bearder for that tweet. I

1865
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: agree on the surface. I think there's a couple more

1866
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: layers to it than that. But there is got to

1867
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: be a tipping point right like right now, we're at

1868
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: fever pitch. I guess pun intended to the yeah right

1869
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,840
Speaker 1: that Kaitling Clark plays for. But we have reached now

1870
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 1: fever pitch. Of this discourse, it has been a full week,

1871
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 1: like every single day for the last week. This has

1872
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: been top story on most most you know, sports talk shows.

1873
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: Is just discourse in some capacity. I think it's a

1874
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:08,240
Speaker 1: good thing for the league right now, unless they don't

1875
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 1: figure out a way to just move on right Like

1876
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: I asked, I talk about this all the time. In gambling,

1877
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 1: you've got to move on from a bad beat. If

1878
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,720
Speaker 1: you let it simmer and you let it affect your

1879
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 1: next bet, you are making a bad wager like you're

1880
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 1: you're in that case, you are cutting off your nose

1881
01:42:28,120 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 1: despite your face because you're worried about something that happened

1882
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 1: in the past, and you're letting it affect your future.

1883
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 1: At some week to move on from this discourse, because

1884
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: if the story the entire time, the whole time Caitlin

1885
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 1: Clarks in the league is about this, we will never

1886
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: grow as a WNBA fan base, as a league, as

1887
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 1: a you know, there has to be an amicable solution

1888
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 1: or at least a calming a detent in some capacity,

1889
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: and this story just made it worse. They just throw

1890
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 1: a gasoline on the fire. Like at some point we

1891
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 1: have to kumbay a here and just admit that Caitlyn

1892
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 1: Clark is a big reason, if not the reason, why

1893
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,720
Speaker 1: this league is getting all the attention, and we have

1894
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: to just move on and play basketball. But it's been

1895
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:16,839
Speaker 1: a full week, and now we're not gonna play basketball

1896
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 1: for a full week because all we're gonna do is

1897
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 1: talk about now this story with the US. Right.

1898
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 2: It's funny you say that because Caitlyn. I'll say this

1899
01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 2: real fast. Caitlyn talked about that yesterday. So it was

1900
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 2: just you know, interviewing players on the court, and she

1901
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 2: was asked about the the Kennedy Carter hard foul, and

1902
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 2: she said like she was asked a question like are

1903
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 2: you expecting an apology? Do you want an apology? And

1904
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 2: she was like no, I mean basketball is competitive and

1905
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 2: it just makes me think where if you think about

1906
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 2: all the unnecessary drama. It's been a full week, if

1907
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 2: not more, but especially over the last week, it's been

1908
01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 2: unnecessary drama left and right, Hard File the reaction to it.

1909
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 2: What Kennedy Carter has to say, what Angel re says

1910
01:44:06,200 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 2: and says, there's drama, drama, drama, drama, dram drama. You

1911
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 2: know who hasn't been dramatic is Caitlyn Clark. Yes, she

1912
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 2: could be stirring the pot and be like yeah, she

1913
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 2: owes me a bology that wasn't a basketball play at all,

1914
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,560
Speaker 2: and just she's like, nope, it's competitive basketball.

1915
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 3: And she said yesterday, that's why I originally brought it up.

1916
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 2: She's like, I just want to play basketball, yep, I

1917
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 2: love the sport.

1918
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 3: I just want to get back to that.

1919
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 2: And she's like, so does my team, and she said,

1920
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 2: so does the WNBA all these other teams.

1921
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 1: That's the right approach, I think, to this bro, it's.

1922
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 3: A nice thing to say. It's not true.

1923
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Speaker 1: No, it's the right message to send.

1924
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, but that's the whole thing.

1925
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Speaker 2: If you look at all the drama going on here,

1926
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 2: whether it's the hard file, the reaction to it, all

1927
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 2: the comments being left off of Team USA, and the

1928
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 2: ridiculous reasoning as to why that might have happened. The

1929
01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 2: one missing element of drama in this whole thing is

1930
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Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark.

1931
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's as non.

1932
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 2: Dramatic as possible, And I mean that as a compliment

1933
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 2: and so like it's everybody else's fault that we're living

1934
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 2: in dramaville right now, my lord, But we gotta shift

1935
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 2: gears over here. Send the baton over to this guy.

1936
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 2: He is a speed demon running the anchor leg over

1937
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 2: here in the four by one hundred dash. We've got

1938
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 2: Nick Cope with us today, Nick, what is going on?

1939
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Speaker 1: Buddy? Guys?

1940
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 8: If I could quickly, as you said, speed demon here,

1941
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 8: just contribute to the conversation.

1942
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 3: More to Jason's point.

1943
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 8: You know, maybe the animosity going on is good, you know,

1944
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 8: having all this discussion, but eventually you want the older

1945
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 8: players to get over it and so put her on

1946
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 8: the team. Maybe you got some friction, but maybe it

1947
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 8: helps all that in the long run. Also, Christian Laitner

1948
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,600
Speaker 8: was on the ninety two Dream Team, Isaiah Thomas was

1949
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 8: left off. And also Christine Brennan had a great point

1950
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 8: when it comes to coverage of the Olympics, who are

1951
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 8: we watching every night when NBC has their coverage. We're

1952
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 8: watching gymnasts, swimmers, runners, maybe the US women's soccer team.

1953
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,759
Speaker 8: We're not paying attention. And we have not paid attention

1954
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 8: to the USA women's basketball team, largely because they've been

1955
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 8: so incredibly dominant. They haven't lost a game since ninety two.

1956
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 8: You put Caitlin Clark on that team, people are paying

1957
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 8: attention now.

1958
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. So anyways, my two cents Eagles.

1959
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 8: Fiontech has won the French Open for a third straight

1960
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 8: year and for the fourth time in the last five years.

1961
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:38,720
Speaker 8: She dominated Jasmine Paullini an hour in seven minutes. Siontech

1962
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 8: the third woman to win three straight titles in a

1963
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 8: role in Garros, the first since Justin Enna in two

1964
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:46,560
Speaker 8: thousand and seven. You have the college Baseball Super Regionals

1965
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 8: going on this weekend. Number one seed Tennessee needs a

1966
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 8: win today or tomorrow to advance to the College World Series.

1967
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 8: They're already up for nothing on Evansville hit three home

1968
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 8: runs on the first inning. In Major League Baseball, the

1969
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,640
Speaker 8: London Series gets going at one eastern on Fox the

1970
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 8: Phillies and the Mets. That'll be followed by covers of

1971
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 8: the Belmont Stage at four eastern, also on Fox, and

1972
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 8: then later on tonight, eight eastern, Game one of the

1973
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 8: Stanley Cup Final, the Oilers and the Panthers from Florida.

1974
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 3: Guys, back to you, great stuff, Nick.

1975
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Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

1976
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 2: If you missed anything on today's show, be sure to

1977
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 2: check out the podcast. It's at Fox Sports Radio wherever

1978
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. Also, be sure to follow, rate

1979
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 2: and review it again. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1980
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 2: you get your podcasts, and you'll see this show posted

1981
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 2: right after we get off the air super fast. Here

1982
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,879
Speaker 2: some dirty pool, one of my favorite stev Ray Vaughn songs.

1983
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 2: You know, this is just lame. DraftKings, what are we

1984
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 2: doing over here? So this is a couple of nights ago,

1985
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 2: kent to Mayeta was pitching, and he threw two pitches

1986
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 2: and he left the game with an injury. Yep, And

1987
01:47:53,240 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 2: so DraftKings voided all of the underbust on maida props strikeouts.

1988
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 3: If you're like, under, I don't know what the line.

1989
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 2: Let's say it's four and a half, and you're like, oh,

1990
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 2: under that, how it's recorded fifteen and a half? Give

1991
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 2: me the under hits a loud six and a half

1992
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 2: under all right, But they're like, nope, nope.

1993
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 3: He left after two pitches. All bets voided you ever?

1994
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 4: You ever wonder sometimes like margins, when you walk into

1995
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 4: a grocery store and you're like, wow, they're selling I

1996
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:30,599
Speaker 4: don't know, a doctor Pepper twelve pack for three ninety nine.

1997
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 4: They're probably losing money on these twelve packs or you know,

1998
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:36,879
Speaker 4: you you walk through, it's like they got a crazy

1999
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 4: sale on pork shoulder.

2000
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: You know, how are they doing? Whatever? It is like

2001
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 1: you know you not after Arenberger gets through, it'll be

2002
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna clean out the place.

2003
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 4: Damn right, you're damn right, but uh you'll have to

2004
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 4: take it off the circulars. But uh yeah, when when

2005
01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 4: that stuff happens, you think, my goodness, like, why would

2006
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,559
Speaker 4: a business ever do that? And then you start thinking, oh,

2007
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 4: because their business and they're selling more than just pork shoulder,

2008
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 4: they're selling more than just twelve packs of doctor pepper

2009
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 4: they're selling their margins are the fact that you know,

2010
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 4: their people walking into the store because they're looking for

2011
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 4: that sale and on their way to the doctor pepper

2012
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 4: isle or the soft drink ale, they're also picking up

2013
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 4: their apples. They're also picking up you know, their pancake mix,

2014
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 4: and they're picking up their you know, polyo cheese sticks

2015
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 4: and the other things that you have a big markup on.

2016
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 1: They make their money all the way back and then some.

2017
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: It's called a loss leader.

2018
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 4: It's what you do in business to encourage people to

2019
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:40,839
Speaker 4: use your business, You dummy.

2020
01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: So like DraftKings, what a miss?

2021
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 4: What a great opportunity to get some good publicity.

2022
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: And take a loss for the greater good.

2023
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 4: So you get more people in the grocery store buying

2024
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 4: cheese sticks.

2025
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: But they screwed it up. Yeah, I think it's more

2026
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 1: to me that the reason that I don't like it

2027
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 1: when the books do this is because they enable and

2028
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 1: what they mean, and what I mean by that is

2029
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: gambling is supposed to be cruel. It's not fair. Sports

2030
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: life is not fair. It mimics that we've talked about,

2031
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 1: the bad beats. It's there's an entire segment on it.

2032
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 1: You know, Scot Vanpeltz Champion Dad. It's one of my

2033
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,520
Speaker 1: favorite segments in all of sports media. We enable society

2034
01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:28,680
Speaker 1: to think that it's okay to get a freebe handout

2035
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 1: when things don't go your way, whereas in reality we

2036
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 1: need to be a little bit tougher as a society.

2037
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 1: You had a bad break, ma Ada got hurt. It happens,

2038
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: injuries happen in sports. You take the l you move on.

2039
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 1: But we've enabled the gambling public to think that if

2040
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:49,640
Speaker 1: a bad beat happens against you, you deserve to be

2041
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: bailed out.

2042
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bad.

2043
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 2: It's uh like we've all lost on taking the over

2044
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 2: on a player.

2045
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 3: Prop that player gets hurt, you lose your bet.

2046
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 2: They don't say, well, hey, in fairness, he might have

2047
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 2: hit the over if he was healthy.

2048
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 3: It's we've lost that way.

2049
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 2: So when I win, you can't say, well he got hurt,

2050
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:19,360
Speaker 2: bets are avoided. That's garbage. It can't work that way.

2051
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,639
Speaker 2: But they're calling the shots. I just hate that they're

2052
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 2: not crying poor. They're making so much money and yet

2053
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 2: they're still being unnecessarily greedy. That's a terrible look by

2054
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 2: DraftKings come on, gotta be better than that. Right, We've

2055
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 2: got rich Oornberger, Penn State All American. He'll think, man,

2056
01:51:36,080 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 2: they're selling this sports shoulder for this cheap. He thinks

2057
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 2: that at least once a week. At least once a week,

2058
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 2: Penn State All American. There, we've got Jared Smith FSR,

2059
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 2: Betting analyst. I'm Brian No coming up next, Rapid Fire Selections.

2060
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:50,600
Speaker 2: That's on the way. It's Fox Sports Saturday here on

2061
01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday right here

2062
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

2063
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 3: Props to the crew, our guy Lee, Robert.

2064
01:51:59,200 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 2: Nlap the filling in for Bo Benton today, My guy Lee.

2065
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 2: Great to hang out with him again as Packers could

2066
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 2: have a losing record this season. Boy, very possible the

2067
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 2: case a Chris Purfett, outstanding technical producer Nick Cope hanging

2068
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 2: out with us, manning the updates in great style. Top

2069
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 2: of the Hour up on game, LeVar Arrington, DJ Hushman,

2070
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:26,759
Speaker 2: Zada Plexico, Burists. They have got you more than covered.

2071
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 2: They come your way in just less than ten minutes.

2072
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 2: We got some pigs to make.

2073
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

2074
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 5: Rapid Fire, all right.

2075
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 2: Jared Off of three and oh Week very nice with

2076
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 2: the nerfy's last week.

2077
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 3: What do you have for us today?

2078
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll give you a nervy right out of the gate.

2079
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: This is the most insaning. This is almost statistically impossible

2080
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 1: what I'm about to tell you, But it's the God's

2081
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 1: honest truth. The Toronto Blue Jays have not scored a

2082
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: run in the first inning in twenty nine straight games. Again,

2083
01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:00,679
Speaker 1: almost statistically impossible, considering the average scoring in the first

2084
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: inning is about twenty five to thirty percent. So yeah,

2085
01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna bet the neurfy today for them facing the Athletics.

2086
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 1: The Athletics aren't a very good offense either. It's not

2087
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 1: the best pitching matchup in the world, Kevin Gosman against

2088
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:13,880
Speaker 1: Luis Medina. But you just got it. You gotta keep

2089
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 1: riding this street. Blue Jays, a's ner fee and we'll

2090
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 1: go cross sport here. I'll give you NHL Stanley Cup

2091
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 1: Final and then NBA Finals picks for the weekend. I'll

2092
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 1: take the pants. Hey, you gotta get the singular and

2093
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 1: the plural up there. I'll go Panthers money line against

2094
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 1: the Oilers tonight. Listen, guys, I think Florida after losing

2095
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: in the Cup last year, I was there the night

2096
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,559
Speaker 1: that Vegas won it. The look in their eyes they're

2097
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 1: back now. I think they get over the hump, not

2098
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,680
Speaker 1: only in this game, but in this series. So I'll

2099
01:53:40,680 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 1: take the Panthers tonight at home to beat the Oilers,

2100
01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,679
Speaker 1: and I'll bet the over straight game over two fourteen

2101
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 1: and a half MAVs Celtics Game two of the NBA

2102
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 1: Finals tomorrow night. I think Dallas's offense plays better. I

2103
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 1: don't fully trust they're gonna cover, but I think if

2104
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 1: they do play better, it correlates to an over. And

2105
01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:59,680
Speaker 1: I think Boston's not gonna rest all their starters the

2106
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 1: last minutes over to fourteen and a half matt Celtics

2107
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 1: Game two tomorrow night.

2108
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 4: All Right, So everybody knows I follow the Padres living

2109
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 4: in San Diego here on this show, so I'm gonna

2110
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 4: stick with them.

2111
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 1: It's what I've known.

2112
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 4: It's what I've seen all season long from the Padres.

2113
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 4: When they lie dormant for many games in a row,

2114
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 4: they all of a sudden get hot again. It's been

2115
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 4: a back and forth Ebb and flow. Padres. Right now

2116
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 4: minus one and a half on the run line. Take

2117
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 4: it against the Diamondbacks.

2118
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: They're at home.

2119
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 4: They're coming off a five game skid. They just got

2120
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 4: a big win over the d Backs last night, ten

2121
01:54:33,960 --> 01:54:36,800
Speaker 4: runs to three, which brings me to my next on

2122
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 4: rapid Fire Diamondbacks Padres total runs eight.

2123
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm taking the over there again.

2124
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 4: The offense hasn't created many crooked numbers over the past

2125
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 4: five games. I think they're due for another explosion today,

2126
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 4: and then I'm.

2127
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 1: Gonna take you to.

2128
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 4: Tomorrow night, Boston Dallas Game two NBA Finals. The total

2129
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 4: points is set at two fourteen and a half.

2130
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: Like the under, I think this is.

2131
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 4: Gonna be a little bit more of a defensive game

2132
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 4: while the series is still in Boston, and then I

2133
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 4: think it starts opening up a little bit more when.

2134
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 1: They had out to Dallas.

2135
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:17,000
Speaker 2: Okay basketball, Derek White three made three pointers last game.

2136
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 2: Let's fade him this one under two and a half.

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Speaker 2: That's plus money plus one thirty.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Give me Derek Lively. I think he gets to at

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Speaker 2: least seven rebounds. Give me over six and a half

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01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 2: limited playing time five files last game. I think he

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Speaker 2: gets the seven rebounds. The pitching matchup favors the Twins today.

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Speaker 2: The Pirates are only plus one oh five. It's a

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01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 2: stinky line. Roll with the Pirates is what I say.

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Speaker 2: Go Pitchburn, enjoy your name.