1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of My Heart 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Radio Together everything, So don't why Hello, Welcome back to 3 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: the Worst Year Ever. My name is Katie Still, that's wild. 4 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: My name isn't. I've got a different one and it 5 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: is Cody Johnston. Uh. Today we are recording without Robert 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: because he needed the week off like I needed it 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: off last week. And that's just how we roll sometimes. UM. 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Sophie's here though, that's quite never leave, she doesn't. UM. 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Today we have something special for you, guys, and that 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: is an interview with David Kim, who is running for 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: California's thirty four district. Uh. He is wonderful. We just 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: had a very interesting conversation with him about U B I, 13 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: about human centered economy UM, and just challenging the establishment 14 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: and I I found it inspiring. UM. I think I 15 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: won't speak for you guys. Hey, I don't disagree. He 16 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: doesn't disagree. That's different than our catchphrase on even More News, 17 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: which I don't disagree with you completely. Yeah, it was great. 18 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: It was a great conversation. UM, and you're gonna listen 19 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: to it. You're gonna listen to it right now. So 20 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: today we are very excited to be joined by David Kim, 21 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: who is running for California's thirty four congressional district. Hi David, 22 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: Hi Katie, thank you so much for having me. Oh, 23 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: we're thrilled to have you. How are you doing We'll 24 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: start off with an easy one. Maybe that's not an 25 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: easy question. Actually that's hard to die Agraham and dissect. Yeah, yeah, no, 26 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm doing fine. I'm very grateful. Um, definitely very 27 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: one of the few fortunate ones that get to work 28 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 1: from home and then also campaign as well. So yeah, 29 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate, and I think right now the focus 30 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: is just too how do we help each other? How 31 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: do we do this in the short term immediately right now, 32 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: but then how do we do this long term where 33 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: we're not out doing our government and helping each other? Yeah, um, 34 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: I want to I want to hear a little bit 35 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: about your background and you know, how you decided to 36 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: run for office. I'm also curious to know what campaigning 37 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: is like right now. You know, we don't have the 38 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: same traditional methods of going out necessarily, I think, and 39 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: if you guys are going door to door or anything 40 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, because that was a lot of 41 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: questions wrapped into one question background, how did you decide 42 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: to run? What does campaign? So just like, what's up? 43 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: How's it going? Yeah? What's up? How's it going? So? Yeah? 44 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: So my name is David. I am currently an immigration attorney. 45 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: I live here in CD thirty four. I moved to 46 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles in two thousand ten. I've lived here for 47 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: the past ten years. When I graduated from law school, 48 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: I started working at the d a's office at l 49 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 1: A County, UH, and then the county went on a 50 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: firing hiring freeze, and so I started working in labor 51 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: and employment litigation on the plaintiff side. So I would 52 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: sue employers for unpaid wages, sexual harassment, those types of cases. 53 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: And shortly thereafter, I then moved into the entertainment industry 54 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: because I felt that there was a need um as 55 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: a lot of my friends at the times who were 56 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: and even now, um, I mean there's a lot less now, 57 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: but back then there were a lot of writer friends, 58 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: director friends, acting friends just being charged so much with 59 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,119 Speaker 1: excessive high attorney fees and so they would be paying 60 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: several thousand dollars and retainers then get charged a percentage 61 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: and then be afraid to talk to them on the phone, 62 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: so they would ask me for help and I'm and 63 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm a labor unemployment I mean, although there are overlapping areas, 64 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: I found myself doing a lot of their legal counsel 65 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: work for free, which which is fine for me and 66 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: helping them, but it's like, why are you afraid to 67 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: talk to your a thousand dollar in our attorneys, Like 68 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: you should be demanding them to do stuff for you, 69 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: but obviously they can't because of the money and everything 70 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: involved with that. So I felt that there was a 71 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: need there, so I created the Hollywood Lawyer dot Com 72 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand, fourteen October just to fill in the 73 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: need for Hey, we can't be taking money and taking 74 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: an advantage of our creatives because they gave up everything 75 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: to to do creative stuff for us to be the 76 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: thought thought provokers, to be the thought creators, and we 77 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: can't be taking advantage of that. And so I saw 78 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: a need for creating affordable legal services for a creative 79 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: niche um serve uses. And at the time, you really 80 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: couldn't get an attorney just to look over a contract 81 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: before you had to sign it three days later or 82 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: the next day. You had to have paid a two 83 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollar retainer first and then book them on appointment, 84 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: and so it's very inaccessible for a lot of creatives. 85 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: And so we filled that void of creating flat fee services, 86 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: of providing very affordable flat fee rates, contingency rates, uh, 87 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: and just kind of on the ghost things that you 88 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: can just really need, whether it be hey, I need 89 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: a red line written review of all the things that 90 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: need to be changing my contract. Can you give me 91 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: that in the next four eight hours. Yes, we can. 92 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: We'll help you. Do you want an oral consultation on 93 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: top of that, Okay, let's do it. So it's it 94 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: was making these services more affordable and more accessible because 95 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: a lot of our creatives are being taken advantage of 96 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: signing away their rights, um signing away their options without 97 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: getting any value for that. And so we did that, 98 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: or I did that for about four or five years. 99 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: Um I sold the Hollywood lawyer. At the time, there 100 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: wasn't any type of legal practice that that was like ours. 101 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: And so now you have Counsel for Creators and all 102 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: of these other smaller legal practices that are that are 103 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: providing those services. And so I felt, Okay, I think 104 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I've reached my time here in the industry, so UM. 105 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: To be honest, I I kind of wanted to see 106 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: what it was like to be on the other side. 107 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: So I applied to Sony Pictures to be one of 108 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: its legal counsels. I ended up after so many interviews, 109 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: I ended up getting a job there director of music 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Acquisitions for legal Um. I spent my nine months there. 111 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: If I had stayed what several more years, I could 112 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: probablyly now start to pay off my two thousand of 113 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: law school loans that I haven't been able to pay 114 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: off for all these years because I've I've, like most 115 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: of my I've I've I've worked that daily grind and 116 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: hustle life of working two to three jobs. I remember 117 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: there were so many days where I'd worked free as 118 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: an attorney and then drive for Lift and Uber from 119 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: seven pm to three am every day, and so so 120 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: now it was like, yes, David, like a sane mind 121 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: would tell you to just stay at Sony, don't quit 122 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: your job, and just pay off your law school loans 123 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: and do it. But in the reality of my neighborhood 124 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: and where I live, the average rent here for one 125 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: bedroom apartment is two thousand a month, but the per 126 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: capita income is fifteen and so when you have families 127 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: living to to a bedroom apartment, it's like, okay, I 128 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: I felt like I was living in two completely different worlds, 129 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: um kind of. And it was just this, this overall realization. 130 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: And this had started building up ever since I had 131 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: helped out on Kenneth Mahia's campaign in two thou eighteen. 132 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: So that's where I was really activised politically because I 133 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: had missed the two thousand sixteen Bernie Our Revolution moment. 134 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: And so during all of this time and these deeper realizations, 135 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I thought, holy sh it, Like life isn't supposed to 136 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: be this hard or tough for anybody, Like the struggle 137 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't be this real, Like what's going on? Like we 138 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't be working for the all of our lives until 139 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: the last day that we breathe. Like that's not what 140 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: life is supposed to be like. And so it hit 141 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: me on a deeper level. Um And during all of 142 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: this time while doing the Hollywood Lawyer, while working at Sony, 143 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: I was also a local neighborhood council board member of 144 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: MacArthur Park Neighborhood Council. Although um it could have a 145 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: lot more power. It's at least something that we as 146 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: a community members as residents can hold onto. Yeah, I 147 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: wish the neighborhood council system could do a lot more. 148 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: And so for those who are listening, Los Angeles has 149 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: ninety nine neighborhood councils, and each neighborhood council serves forty residents. 150 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: And so what we have the power to do is 151 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to give our opinion on any zoning projects that come 152 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: in any um and so in a way we're able 153 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: to stop gentrification as much as possible so that our 154 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: community members aren't displaced and so um. And so the 155 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: neighborhood council system allows us to actually have a say 156 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: to cling onto whatever status quo is. Although we're not 157 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: fond of status quo. At least this is what we 158 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: know because we don't know if something worse is going 159 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: to come, because we've seen our families and neighbors move 160 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: an hour or two hours away leaving Los Angeles. And 161 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: that's not the city that we need to become. Because 162 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: if we really prioritize the people and find solutions that 163 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: actually work, then we can all still be intact, still 164 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: keep our community safe. Um. But it's a matter of 165 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: what are our communities needs and concerns, And right now, 166 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: our communities are so financially distressed. We have a thirty 167 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: five plus year income wage stagnation, ever increasing widening wealth gap. 168 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: We have people that pre COVID nineteen had two to 169 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: three jobs to make ends meet, and currently they have 170 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: no jobs to make ends meet, and they have no 171 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: health insurance. And yet are elected officials continue to preach 172 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: this message of oh, universal health care. Oh now we're 173 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: going to take it out. Oh yeah, our d NC 174 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: platform just voted to not prioritize Medicare for all anymore 175 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: because we're not in that moment anymore. When when we're 176 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: all more ever in that moment because nobody has health insurance. 177 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: And so so when you see like these elected officials 178 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: just preaching, oh, well, we'll give you medicare for all 179 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: or health care for all, but then they're taking money 180 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: from pharmaceutical companies, healthcare companies. They're saying free education for all, 181 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: but then they're taking money from student decollectors. In a way, 182 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: it's like, how crazy are we to continue reelecting the 183 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: same officials two years after two years after two years, 184 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: it's like I think it's on us now to realize, 185 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: and it's not in an accusatory or judgmental way, but 186 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: it's more of a hey, like they they actually work 187 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: for us, And it's kind of really waking up and 188 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: bringing out that true perspective of they actually work for us, 189 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: and if their job is to represent the will of 190 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: the people and they're not doing it, all right, let's 191 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: vote for somebody else. And so that's why I'm running. Yeah, 192 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: which is actually very interesting in terms of the trajectory 193 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: of your career that you've just laid out, because it's 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: exactly what you were doing with Hollywood. I mean, these 195 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: lawyers that you're talking about that people were afraid to, 196 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, push for the you know, push back on 197 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: the money issues and all of that stuff. That they're 198 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: supposed to work for people. But the system is broken, 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: or you may guess that's the system is designed, how 200 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: it's designed to work. But like, you know, showing an 201 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: alternative path and what you're everything you're saying really resonates 202 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: with me. I've been talking about this a lot with 203 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: people in my conversations. You know, it's easy to say 204 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: to fall into this US versus them mentality left versus right, 205 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: and sure I've got lots of complaints about the right, 206 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: but also we need to step up, we need to 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: be accountable, We need to try harder and keep pushing 208 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: for UH officials that actually worked for us, as you're saying, 209 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: because just saying get the Democrat in isn't cutting it. 210 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: The democrats, so many democrats, the system, the establishment UM 211 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: is serving the same systems that aren't working, you know, 212 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: and they're they're ingrained. So that's why I'm so so 213 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: thrilled to have candidates like you stepping up and and 214 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: talking about some really dramatic, drastic things that need to 215 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: happen to actually be serving the communities. UM. You're running 216 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: on a very progressive platform, which is very exciting to us, 217 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: even endorsed by Andrew Yang and Marian Williamson. Am I right, 218 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: UM your supporter of U B I met a care 219 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: for all green, new Deal homes guarantee UM. And and 220 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to have you walk us through some of 221 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: these issues and and and talk about how you arrived 222 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: on these positions and everything, UM, because we could start 223 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: with you b I. It's it's not a new concept, 224 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: but it's it's relatively new to many Americans. I think, 225 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, Andrew Yang's campaign brought it to the forefront 226 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: of our conversations this election cycle. Um. And of course 227 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: he exited the race before the pandemic hit. But now 228 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: I think we're having these conversations under a new lens. Um. 229 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: You know, many people have been pushing for U B 230 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: I as something as a response to the pandemic, and 231 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: and what we got was far short the U b 232 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: I um or, you know, but now more than ever, 233 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: something like this is imperative and were and when Andrew 234 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: brought that up during his campaign, people laughed at him, 235 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: and now everybody and now everybody's like, hm, hmmm, what 236 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: about that? But could you I mean, I think a 237 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: lot of our listeners have a fairly good grasp on UBI, 238 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: but I'd love to have you walk us through it. Um. I. Also, 239 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we all can have a takeaway of 240 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: of easy ways that we can talk about it with 241 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: our relatives and loved ones, you know, moving forward, destigmatizing 242 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: things in a ways important part of this conversation. But yeah, 243 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear your thoughts. Yeah, for sure. Thank 244 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: you so much for asking that question. Katie. Universal basic 245 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: income is probably one of the most progressive things out there, 246 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: and so for people to suddenly now catch on, it's like, 247 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: oh and and and it's a it's a good thing 248 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: because it's not like, oh, why didn't you catch on sooner? No, 249 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad and happy right that you caught before. It 250 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: was cool kind of stuff, you know, exactly. So it's like, 251 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: why do we have even have to go there? Like, 252 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you know about it now, and and 253 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: so let's talk about ways that we can implement it. 254 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Um but pulling back just for a sight before I 255 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: go back into there. For for our platform, we're focused 256 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: really on empowering the American people in our communities again 257 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: because the focus has not been on our people the 258 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: past thirty forty years. And so for us, it's like, okay, so, David, 259 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: what does putting the focus on the people look like? 260 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: And it's very basic elements of do our people have 261 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: access to good food? Can they eat good food? Like? 262 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: Can they have it? Like? Is it hard to get it? Like? 263 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Do they have access to good healthcare and education? Do 264 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: they have a room to sleep in with the roof 265 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: over their head? Are they able to pay for basic expenses. 266 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: And these are the very basic things and and and ensuring, 267 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: because if a government is one that is of the people, 268 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: for the people, and by the people, then it should 269 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: be taking care of the people. It's not. It's not 270 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: some radical socialist or whatever crazy idea you want to 271 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: put on it. It's a very basic practical result of 272 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: what a government, a representative government, is supposed to be. 273 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: And if we're paying our tax and money into the 274 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: system and we're not seeing this, then we can demand 275 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: for something else. And so now going back into the 276 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: UBI parts, So the UBI part takes care of the 277 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: basic expenses, but I think beyond that, what it really 278 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: represents is it it starts addressing this thirty forty plus 279 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: year income wage stagnation that's been happening, this widening wealth gap, 280 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: even before going to automation, which is probably an equally 281 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: important area and reason, but even before that, our people 282 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: are financially distressed and depressed right now, and that affects 283 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: them not just in their finances, mentally emotionally as well, 284 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: and it contributes to more unrest ease. And and I 285 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: come from a child, and I'm not gonna say I 286 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: come from I come from as a child from domestic violence, 287 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: and my parents fought mostly because of money. UM and 288 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: the fact that we're putting the strain onto our families 289 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: and our communities and saying you deal with it without 290 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: giving them bootstraps or boots even is is is the 291 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: biggest evil that we could be doing. UM is the 292 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: biggest evil that they could be doing to us. And 293 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: I think it's really our time to wake up and realize, 294 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: holy sh it, Like, yeah, we're talking about it, but 295 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: it just doesn't end here at talking where it goes 296 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: a lot further and so what a U b I 297 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: would really do? I mean for those who also aren't 298 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: aware of you b I. Another good reason is for automation, 299 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: because we see a lot of our jobs being automated, 300 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: especially during now in COVID nineteen, because there are a 301 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: lot of people who are afraid to go ahead and 302 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: risk their health and going out and working a lot 303 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: of restaurants. I I forgot what restaurant they were showing 304 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: a video on CNN of how they have robot cooks 305 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: now and what and they're cooking the food and so 306 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: so it was and I'll send you that link when 307 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: I see it. But it's just it's in the sense 308 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: of everything is being automated to the point of like 309 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: if you go to the warehouses and Amazon, or if 310 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: you go um like, you'll see automation in your face happening. 311 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: And even from my legal industry, I know that the 312 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: co founders of legal Zoom, they've created something else that 313 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: will now be displacing even more attorneys. Um who And 314 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: I get that we have this this automatic bias against attorneys. 315 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: But for those who graduate in recent years with the 316 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: legal economy with ship like, they still have two hundred 317 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: thousand dollars loan that and they're unable to pay it. Um. 318 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: So I think there's a different time and era for 319 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: these occupations. And even with that, like with law schools 320 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: pumping in students and pumping out and there's so many 321 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: areas that we can start tackling and addressing in terms 322 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: of where, what are we doing and why are we 323 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: not being efficient in all of these ways. So the 324 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: idea of u b I is to help UH kind 325 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: of buffer the different changes that could happen when automation occurs. 326 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: So that's the second reason. But on an overall skill, 327 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: U b I imagine practically what it would do to 328 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: an area in our district where the per capita income 329 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: is twelve to fifteen thousand dollars, having a ubi of 330 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: even a thousand dollars a month would double their income, 331 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: would be able to increase their ability to not be 332 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: strapped and chained to their minimum wage jobs that they 333 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: hate or whatever other jobs with conditions that they don't prefer, 334 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: and they would it would allow them to have the 335 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: flexibility and freedom and breathing room to actually breathe now 336 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: and to consciously make choices, because we're always making these 337 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: choices in our reactive parasympathetic state, being all in this 338 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: freight fight or freeze mode because of the conditions that 339 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: we've created our people to live in. And so if 340 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: we were able to give our people some breathing space 341 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: where now they have the ability to go ahead and 342 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: take a class, to go ahead and transition into a 343 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: different career, or go ahead and be able to work 344 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: for a job that's part time and still have the 345 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: finances to be able to still pay for their basic expenses. 346 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: And there's the fungibility aspect. What U Katie referenced earlier 347 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: is one of the big keys, not just in terms 348 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: of stigma. But in terms of we as the people, 349 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: we know best what we need our money for. And yes, 350 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: I'm grateful our family lived on safety net programs, but 351 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: like my my food assistance isn't going to help me 352 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: with paying my rent. There are times that the food 353 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: assistance like it'll be so handy and so helpful, but 354 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: there are times where I could be using assistance elsewhere. 355 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: And so why add all of the bureaucratic tape, the 356 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: extra government in between, the all the extra means, testing 357 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: and hurdles to prove that I don't have money to 358 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: pay rent or poop food on the table. Why do 359 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: we do that extra unnecessary pain and suffering to our 360 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: people and then to ourselves on our bandwidth wise, when 361 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: we could actually putting our focus on other things in 362 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: terms of creating an infrastructure for our people, making sure 363 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: that every community taken care of, like this is where 364 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: we could actually be spending more of our time in. 365 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: And so for me, I think what got me to 366 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: go into the entertainment industry and I saw that need 367 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: and what got me to go here was there are 368 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: so many things in areas that we could be cleaning 369 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: up right now on just a practical level, even putting 370 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: party politics aside, like it doesn't make sense that we 371 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: continue in our imperialistic conquests around the world. Although some 372 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: might not think, oh David was didn't imperialism ends, like well, 373 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're still living it out. And it's 374 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: there's no need for us to be pouring money into 375 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: this and that even in and of itself, isn't a 376 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: party politics thing. Everyone's doing, whether you're Republican or Democrat. 377 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: And so it's it's rethinking what are we doing as 378 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: a government, and how are we holding our officials accountable 379 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: and so what I'm very grateful despite what people may 380 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: think of Bernie and oh he's traded or whatnot, I'm 381 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: still super grateful that he let us out of our 382 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: bird cage. I'm grateful that Andrew did to Mary Anne, Tulsie, 383 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: all of these people did. I'm grateful that Ao season office, 384 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: Ilhano Mars in office, Rashida as an office. Uh. I'm 385 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: sorry sorry that I'm saying by the first name. They're 386 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: just Dianna Pressley's in office. But these people are what 387 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: help us. Are are are are the people that empower 388 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: us to become our own true and powerful selves and 389 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: enable us to walk out more in our truth and 390 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: freedom where now we have not just people and a 391 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: year ago, I never would have thought I'd be running 392 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: for office right now, but I am. But it's it's 393 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: it's breaking that whole stereotype of oh, there's a certain 394 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: image that only runs for office, but no, a rep 395 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: resenative government looks like one that is made up of 396 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: from people from all different kinds of backgrounds, occupations and 397 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: facets of life. And that's what we need to move 398 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: towards and how do we get there. And so that's 399 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: the thing that we need to be doing. I told 400 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: my boyfriend, Hey, babe, once we reached the six yeared Mike, 401 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: You're like, you're pulling me out and pull me yanked 402 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: me out because I'm just in and out, like I 403 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: really just want to see change and helps spark that. 404 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: So that's a really important point there. I Mean, there's 405 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: so much to impact on what you just said, but 406 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: touching on that first, Yeah, we need people that come 407 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: in and serve their time and and you know, bring ideas. 408 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: And we also need people do not grow old in 409 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: office and to get stuck in the same and get 410 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: used to having power over people and society. UM, it's 411 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: like that, you know, power, power corrupts, but not me, 412 00:22:50,560 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: not well together everything UBI. I mean yeah, like I said, 413 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: so many things that you mentioned that really stand out 414 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: to me. Uh, the first one being what you suggested, 415 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: like your background or people having different sorts of issues 416 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: at home that on the surface seem unrelated to money, 417 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: but it can all be traced back to money. And 418 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: I think people are palpably feeling this right now as 419 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: tensions are high, and they're feeling their own mental health 420 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: or stability, uh, emotional well being being fraid, as they're 421 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to meet make ends meet. UM. 422 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: And the other thing about UBI, and look, I will 423 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: admittedly say that even I've always I've been interested in 424 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: UBI for a long time, and when we started having 425 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: these conversations, as exciting as it was, it felt daunting. 426 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: It felt like a daunting task to tackle at this 427 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: point in time. But at the same time, you know, 428 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: you look at Bernie's anders. Medicare for all a while back, 429 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: wasn't something that people considered a possibility, and now it is. 430 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: You start talking about it, you start destigmatizing it, and 431 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: you start planting the seeds that this is actually not 432 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: only a possibility but a necessity. Um And and changing 433 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: the general perception in this pandemic one thing has exposed 434 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: all the cracks in this foundation. And the other thing 435 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: that I thought of as we were talking is just 436 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: the basic concept of that our world is changing. Um. 437 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: And with all this turmoil, you have a loss of 438 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: freedom to think outside the box. You know, you're in 439 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: this grind of trying to make ends meet well, and 440 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: how are people going to come up with the next 441 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: big idea? How do we uh free ourselves to continue 442 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: to expand and solve the problems that we're facing because 443 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of them. And and you be 444 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: I feels like a very good start for for laying 445 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: that foundation and fixing our foundation. Um. And it's possible. 446 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how you go about making it happen, 447 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 1: but it is possible. We've been giving out all this 448 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: money to the wrong people during this pandemic when they 449 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: could have authorized something that is a monthly payment to 450 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: people to make ends meet, to to say that you're supported, 451 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: that you know we're protecting you during this time, and 452 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: not sending billions of dollars to you know, huge corporations 453 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: in in in lawmakers anyway, yeah, or the Pentagon, Yeah, 454 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: they they they allocated more funding for fighter jets. Um, 455 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, the relief. That's that's COVID relief, right there, 456 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: more fighter jets that we don't need. Yeah. And and 457 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: and you make a very great point about that, Katie. 458 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: During that time where people don't have money to buy 459 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: food or pay rent, like, you should give the people 460 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: money direct cash relief right now. Um. Whether and whether 461 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: that looks like two thousand dollars a month during the 462 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: pandemic and then after a thousand a month, because everybody 463 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: will still be recuperating. Um. And that's the way to 464 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: get money into the hands of people the fastest, because 465 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: once you do a whole means tested and and go 466 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: through all these departments, like people still haven't gotten there 467 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: one time stimulus check from last time. And it's it's this, 468 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: it's this lack of realization or deliberate ignorance and pushing 469 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: away or or not. I guess ignorance can't be delivered. 470 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: It could be ignorance could be but pushing away the 471 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: fact the fact that our people are the economy. We 472 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: are the economy. If we don't have money, there's no economy, 473 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: like nothing will be running and so and so the 474 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: government they have their own separate economy, which is the 475 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: war industry, military industrial complex economy that they're doing. But 476 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: it's it's a matter of realizing, like we the people 477 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: do matter on a collectively on our own skill as well, 478 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: but then on the government side realizing, holy sh it, 479 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: like we need a conscious check here, like and I 480 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: hate to hate to I'm not bringing any religion into it, 481 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: but there needs to be some sort of spiritual or 482 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: emotional or or a revolution in our conscious that had 483 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: needs to happen in d C right now. And that's 484 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: what Mary Anne kept on driving on of we need 485 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: to have a revival of of actually humanity and self. 486 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: And that's where Andrew Yang brought his whole humanity first element, 487 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: and that's what a lot of these candidates had in mind, 488 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: was we need to remember the human race, like we 489 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: need to help each other right now. Um, I'm getting passionate, 490 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: sim lifting, gesticulating and so so so in a way 491 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: like and it's not it's and it seems crazy at 492 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: first because when I remember when I heard UBI for 493 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: the first time, I thought what are you serious? Nah, 494 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: come on like you know, like your Asian and you're 495 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: saying that you do the math and all of it. 496 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: But because I hadn't heard about UBI until first learning 497 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: about Andrew, which was a while before the debates, a 498 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: lot before that, and once I started going down the 499 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: rabbit hole, rabbit hole, I found, holy crap. Martin Luther 500 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: King Jr. Was preaching about this in his last book, 501 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: Spooking Speaking Tour Where Do We Go From Here around 502 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: nineteen six nine sixty nine when he was assassinated, and 503 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: that was one of the things he was proposing. He 504 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: was saying, we do all of these great things to 505 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: help the poor and to eradicate poverty, and we we 506 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: do all of these programs and implementations, but when it 507 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: comes to the implementation of it all, we solve everything 508 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: else first, and then we come down last to poverty, 509 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: and it's never solved and it's always unaddressed. And he says, 510 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: the only way we can do it with is a 511 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: basic income, and so he had fought for that. It 512 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: almost it passed in the House, didn't pass in the Senate, 513 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: and that happened twice. I think it was nineteen seventy 514 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: one and another year, and so this has happened throughout history. 515 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: Thomas Payne, one of our four founding fathers, supported He didn't. 516 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: He thought it was absurd that a human being could 517 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: own land, let alone in American because even before we 518 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: came over, the first Americans came over from from Great 519 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: Britain and from other countries. The Native Americans were there, 520 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: and they were they were there too, but then before then, 521 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: the land was already there, and so it was this 522 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: idea of nobody can own land, and so he created 523 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: he was proposing creating a lound Land Endowment Tax Fund 524 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: into which those over certain age would pay a land 525 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: tax and from their basic income would be distributed. Unfortunately 526 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: that that didn't pass. But there's been movements along the 527 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: way in history, and similarly, although it's not it's it's 528 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: different types of right. We have the civil rights movement, 529 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: the Women's movement, UH and and different movements and suffrage 530 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: movements along the way. But now is a time where 531 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: we're in that process where it's another revolution, another change, 532 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: another big series of change. That's point that's about to happen, 533 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: and and right now we need to realize whole the crap, 534 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: like we're we've come this far and we need to 535 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: continue more because we do see it building before our eyes. You, UM, 536 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you are aware. There's a party 537 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: that just formed. Um it's called for a People's Party, 538 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: and they're really trying to get on the ball and 539 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: get rolling. By two and and we have probably a 540 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: record number of Downbell congressional candidates running across the nation 541 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: for their primary races this selection cycle. We have many 542 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: more forming chapters and groups in the off spurs of 543 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: the organizations that Bernie started with Our Revolution, that Andrew 544 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: started with Humanity Ford, et cetera. And so we're now 545 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: slowly building a movement that's that can only grow bigger. 546 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: So for us right now, it's an exciting time, but 547 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: it's also a very serious time where we can't lose focus, 548 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: where we can't compromise, like we can't compromise by continuing 549 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: to fund a seven forty billion plus dollar Pentagon military 550 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: budget anymore. We can't compromise in these things. But it's 551 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: a matter of then how do we go up out 552 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: doing it like and this is where we need to 553 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: come and have a deeper conversation with those in our 554 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: communities and those in d C where we're actually talking 555 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,959 Speaker 1: with our communities first and saying, hey, what are your 556 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: basic concerns and needs right now? Okay, how would you 557 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: like that to be responded to? What would help you 558 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: out the most? Right now? What would help you thrive? 559 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Taking that and then articulating that back into legislation in DC. 560 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: And that's the process that should be happening instead of 561 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: their legislating amongst themselves then coming back to our communities 562 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: with the crumbs that they have and saying, hey, look 563 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: what we got for you. Um. And so this whole 564 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: mindset just everything needs to change. But what's the answer, David, 565 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: What should we do? And it's us realizing collectively like 566 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: that we have the power. We are the revolution, no 567 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: matter how much of a cliche it might sound like, 568 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: we are the fucking revolution. We are the economy. We 569 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: as long as we say that we matter and take 570 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: action individually and collectively, we could be so powerful, so 571 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: powerful they're we forget that and they want us to 572 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: forget that. Yeah, yeah, because they control us through poverty. 573 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: That's why they don't want to give us. That's why 574 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: they don't want to give us another that's why they 575 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: want to means test that stimulus check even more. That's 576 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: why they want to cut off the percentage of the 577 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: expanded unemployment benefits. Just so on and so forth. They 578 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: control us through poverty, saying stuff like, you know, people 579 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: aren't returning to work because they're getting so much more 580 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: money on unemployment, instead of acknowledging the fact that we're 581 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic. Also, excuse me, they're 582 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: getting paid not that much money. People aren't getting that 583 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: much money on unemployment. Let's just accept that. And why 584 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: the so some people might be making more money on 585 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: their unemployment than at their job. That's a problem. Why 586 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: is that? Okay? I mean, like and and so using 587 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: that as a as a way to stigmatize people who 588 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: are receiving money from the government to you know, cover 589 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: costs of living is ghoulish to me. Um, you know, 590 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: and back to your point earlier about like, okay, so 591 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: assistance to help with food, that's great, but like I 592 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: need it for rent And why do I have to 593 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: jump through all this red tape to justify how I 594 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: need to spend money to come, you know, to to 595 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: live anyway gets me frustrated. Sorry, Cody, did you had 596 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: something you wanted to say? And I just kind of bold, right, 597 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: it's very very passionate. Um no, I's I mean, there's 598 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: just so much to talk about this and like what 599 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: our America is very skewed idea of what freedom is 600 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: and like rugged individuality and the fact like ignoring the 601 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: fact that we are really all in this together and 602 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: we are You judge a society by how they treat 603 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: their poor, and like if you lift up everybody that's 604 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: the poorest, then everybody above them will be lifted up 605 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: as well. UM. One one one of my so one 606 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: of my things about you, b I actually is um 607 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: And this was more I think maybe more of a 608 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: communication uh issue on Yang's part at least, um where 609 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: if you're giving so like you're giving money, like let's 610 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: say two grand a month everybody. If we live in 611 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: a society where if you add up like rent and 612 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: food and uh and heat and like all all the 613 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: like the basic needs. You know, we have a hierarchy 614 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: of needs that we all kind of understand, like well, 615 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: food and water, shelter, those kinds of things. But if 616 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: you can't if you can't pay for all of those 617 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: things in a month with the two thousand dollars, then 618 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: the UBI seems more like, um, kind of like a 619 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: band aid, like okay, well we'll give you some money. Um. 620 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: And I guess I'm wondering if there's any sort of uh, 621 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: I guess you to be U B I requires looking 622 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: at other aspects of society to bring those costs down too, 623 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: so that if I were to give somebody two thousand 624 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: dollars a month, they can pay their rent, they can 625 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: buy food, they can do all the things that are 626 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: required to survive as a human being with that too. 627 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: Grand Um, if that were to happen, Yeah, I guess YEA, 628 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm still wondering if you have any thoughts about that. Yeah. No, 629 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: those are very great points. And I am I am 630 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: not a believer that one solution will solve everything because 631 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: while and that's why our platform is really addresses each 632 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: of those needs, so for having a roof room and 633 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: a roof to sleep under a home's guarantee, for paying 634 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: your basic expenses, universal basic income for healthcare, Medicare for all, 635 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: for education, free education and vocational schools UH, and cancelation 636 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: of student debt. So for us, it's realizing a U 637 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: b I is not going to immediately solve all of 638 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: your financial needs for the month. But even right now 639 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: or pre COVID nineteen, we had seventy of Americans living 640 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: paycheck to paycheck each month, most having most not having 641 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: savings more than three to four hundred dollars UM. And 642 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: imagine what kind of relief that would do for our 643 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: people on an emotional, on a mental level. First of all, 644 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: on on that level, and then it's also attacking all 645 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: of those areas you mentioned. Why do we have astronomical 646 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical costs and healthcare costs? Like that's crazy. It's because 647 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: we have executives making billions and trillions off of us UM. 648 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: That's why that's where the money is going. Like where 649 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: do you get the money? It's like, will you take 650 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: it from them? Like it's right and simple. These corporate 651 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: interests that have become the main constituents of our elected officials, 652 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: and they're not they're not they're they're their corporate entities. 653 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: They're not human beings. But suddenly they've become constituents of 654 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: our elected officials. So it's changing that um, changing how 655 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: we go ahead and do everything else. With with housing, 656 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: for instance, we have over seventy billion dollars in federal 657 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: public housing that needs improvements right now, and nothing's being 658 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: done with that. We have paid to place schemes in 659 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 1: so many cities across the nation in and even our 660 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: probably a lot of us, our own federal elected officials, 661 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: are engaging in those two. And so it's this turning 662 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: a blind eye to corruption in your face is also 663 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: a thing that drives all of our housing concept, the 664 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: gentrification of it all. And so it's realizing while we 665 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: go ahead and supply all these needs, we also need 666 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: to have a responsibility and a justice element to it. 667 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: And so that's where our campaign platform comes in. So 668 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: instead of naming our committee paid for by David Kimp 669 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: for Congress, one of the things I've learned growing up 670 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: is a name really gives you a lot of power 671 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: and identity. Um, her my mom and what my dad 672 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: told me and so so are the name of our 673 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: campaign committee. It's pretty long. It's paid for by David 674 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: Kimp for Congress. Financial freedom, the financial freedom part empowering 675 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: our people. Love. What does love look like? From an 676 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: elected official? Love looks like taking care of and caring 677 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: for your people, spending less of your money creating these 678 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: regime change, endless wars abroad and taking that money and 679 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: caring for your people. Um and then justice for all. 680 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: We need justice to ensure that everyone continues to be 681 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: treated equally and fairly and have that access. So what 682 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: does that look like. That means banning corporate money from elections. 683 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: We we can't. We need to wash out all corporate 684 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: money from elections. It doesn't make sense that you get 685 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: elected to office because you have the most corporate donors 686 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: behind your campaign war chest and funds you to office. 687 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: And even though you've knocked less doors than your challengers 688 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: combined or or individually, even though you've called and talked 689 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: to less constituents than any of your challengers. And so 690 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a matter of this moral revolution that needs 691 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: to happen on the justice side, not just in the government, 692 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: but now everything that we're also doing, because actions speak 693 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: louder than words. Why are we militarizing our police, Why 694 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: are we invading the rights of our own people by 695 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: allowing espionage rights against our own people through through through 696 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: the BS and excuse of oh no, it's for foreign 697 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: power and foreign national security. But then why are you 698 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: doing that? To your own people, and why are we 699 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: oppressing our communities? And so it's this accountability aspect of 700 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: our platform, which is the justice aspect of No, it 701 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense that more than two thirds of the 702 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: people that are incarcerated are black and brown people. It 703 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense that more than two thirds of the 704 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: people living in federal public housing currently and we're completely 705 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: neglecting the seventy billion dollars and improvements that need to 706 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: be made, two thirds of them are black and brown. So, like, 707 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: we see institutionalized racism before our eyes, but we're not 708 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: doing anything about it. We see this blatant war against poverty, 709 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: but we're not doing about it. And so now it's 710 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: time for us for people to really stand up to 711 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: identify it and just call it out. Um. But obviously 712 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: media won't shine a light on those people, and so UM, 713 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm super thankful that Katie and and you all offered 714 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: me this time to be on your platform because this 715 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 1: is the one of the ways that we can share 716 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: with other people and expanding that knowledge because the main 717 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: media won't do it well. Together everything, so all of 718 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: this seems to go along with you. Another part of 719 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: your website that I was really compelled by which is 720 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: the human centered economy? You know, the adjusting of how 721 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: we think about the economy. And I loved that. Um, 722 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: are there more things you want to speak to that 723 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: specific point? I mean, I do think that we've been 724 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: talking about it this whole time. It's all hand in hand. 725 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: But I love I love that phrasing too. I mean 726 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: these bullet points. Human beings are more significant than money 727 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: and life. I worked, I was working in human resources. 728 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: When I would interview for jobs right out of college, 729 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I want to put the human back 730 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: in human resources for you. I did think that you 731 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: met a past life past life at first, Um, and 732 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: that was like this will be interesting there. I was like, 733 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: were you a human being? I was like, okay, I'll 734 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: go for this. Red. I had a psychic once told 735 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: me that I I was a dolphin in a past life. 736 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: I died in the ocean, and that's why I don't 737 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: like the ocean that much. I do think you were 738 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: a dolphin in past life? The author? Does it does fit? Um? David? 739 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: You also Oh no, sorry, go ahead, No. I was 740 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: just gonna say, dolphins are so cute. I wish I 741 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: can anyhow I want to go see a dolphins scene. Well, 742 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: here I am. You touched on the homes guarantee, which 743 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: is another thing I wanted to to talk about. Yeah, Um, 744 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: on your website you you started this section by saying 745 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: we need to pass HR four three five one and 746 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: S nine nine, which is the MBI Act. Um. I 747 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: want to hear about the homes guarantee, but I also 748 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: I would love it if you could explain that a 749 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: little bit to us. Yeah, yeah, for sure, Um, Before 750 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: I get to that. The human center economy, it's just 751 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: basically the idea of if we are supposed to be 752 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: a government that prioritize and puts the people first and 753 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 1: do all of these things with universal basic income, Medicare 754 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: for all, etcetera, then that's great. But then how do 755 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: we ensure that we actually have gauges, good identifiers to 756 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: make sure that we're doing that on the track we need. 757 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: We don't need measures like GDP of whether measuring whether 758 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: or not our countries in a good state are here 759 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: in stock market went up like we're doing great exactly, So, 760 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: how in the world is that a good gauge and 761 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: indicator of where our country is When most of every 762 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: one of us are frightened and uncertain and not knowing 763 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: what's going to happen or how they're going to pay 764 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: their bills and their rent. Like, that's not a good 765 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: indicator of where we're at. So we actually need a 766 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: job performance evaluation that makes sense. And so that job 767 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 1: performance evaluation of how our government and country is doing 768 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: isn't based on stock market or GDP. It should be 769 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: based on how our people are doing. So what does 770 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: that mean? What does that look like? If we're prioritizing 771 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: our people, that are people should be doing well? So 772 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: what are the factors we should look out for, like 773 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: long life expectancy, health, like where merite, like in all 774 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: of these different ways, if we're able to put the 775 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,799 Speaker 1: focus on our people in terms of um making, a 776 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: focus on job skills, training, on employment, on mental emotional 777 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 1: health care, on taking care of our families, because every 778 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 1: family is a war zone now because we're not we're 779 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: putting the financial strain on all of our families, and 780 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: we're driving our parents so emotionally and mentally burdened now 781 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: they're not able to kind of coincide or exist, co 782 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 1: exists where their emotions and so where does that seem 783 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: to that seems to parents, to the and anti parents 784 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: as well and amongst themselves, and it creates. And so 785 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,840 Speaker 1: that's why our platform also has free I know a 786 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: lot of people might think, oh, how are you going 787 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: to do that? We have money for it. How do 788 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: we just print three extra trillion new dollars and put 789 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: that into currency. And so it's a matter of realizing, no, 790 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: that we matter in so for our platform, we're we're 791 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 1: including free marriage counseling, free family counseling for all because 792 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: a lot of us, majority of us, like believe it 793 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 1: or not, some of us like we were always operating 794 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: in our paris sympathetic state in this freight fight or 795 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: freeze mode, where we should actually be operating from our 796 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: sympathetic state, from a very deep, conscious awareness and responsive 797 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: state where we're able to really be healed from all 798 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: of the trauma that's been going on in all of us. 799 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: And so it's ensuring that our people are not just 800 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: financially okay, not just physically okay, but that they're mentally, 801 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: mentally and emotionally okay as well. And so these are 802 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: the gauges that should be in place for a human 803 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: centered economy. Um. Going now to Homes Guarantee. You are amazing, 804 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, You've got everything, all of these balls that 805 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: you're juggling right now. But yes, I like that. Homes 806 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 1: Guarantee is great. Homes Guarantee. The bills that you reference 807 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: there the ymbi at Yimbie bills. So basically they're about 808 00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: removing exclusionary zoning policies, building residential housing, multi dual units 809 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: in place that we're not originally zoned out for that, 810 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: building multi dwelling accessory units, increasing housing in areas that 811 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 1: that we could see more housing, and not putting these 812 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: arbitrary exclusionary zoning laws and land speculation that occurs where 813 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: the price of our land just keeps on going up 814 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: and there's nobody using that land or the buildings on it, 815 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: and so it's getting rid of that. That's a basic. 816 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: So now what we need to do on top of 817 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: that is called fimby. So we have nimby not in 818 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 1: my backyard yet uh yem b yes, in my backyard uh. 819 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: And then fimby is public housing in my backyard. So 820 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: it's a matter of So what the Homes Guarantee is 821 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: about is providing a set of basic tenants rights for everybody, 822 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: because if you think about it, what's the majority of 823 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: your income going towards Katie Sophie Cody Rent, rent, rent, 824 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,360 Speaker 1: rent number one thing that we're paying but our government 825 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: is not doing. Like when Biden first came out with 826 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: his task forces several months ago, he had nothing on housing, 827 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, are you in touch with the 828 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: people right now? What in the world's Like the one 829 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: of the biggest things that we pay from our monthly 830 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: income is rent. We should be having a conversation around this, 831 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: and why is it that out of forty one million 832 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: renting households in the nation, over twenty million of them 833 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: are paying more than a third of their income. Why 834 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: is it that out of the forty plus million, twelve 835 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: plus million of them are paying more than half of 836 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: their income? Like why is that? So these are the 837 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: things we need to talk about. So it's establishing UM 838 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: guidance and laws, and it's for the majority of our 839 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: people tenants not to be taking advantage of because that's 840 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: not right UM on moral and practical level. And number two, 841 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: improving making expenditures towards the seventy billion dollars in federal 842 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: public housing improvements that need to be made. That's institutionalized 843 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: racism right there. Um. And it's also for for Los 844 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: Angeles and particularly for for those who aren't aware, we 845 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: have less than tenth in public housing units. This is 846 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: very small compared to other cities and counties where they 847 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: have two hundred a couple of few hundred thousand units 848 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: in public housing. And the reason why it's back in 849 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: the fifties, we had a group that was specifically formed 850 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: to stamp out all public housing because they wanted Los 851 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: Angeles to be have a nice landscape to rich people 852 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: and and to live out that Hollywood life and picture. 853 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: And so we don't have public housing, but yet our 854 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: people were. That's why our district is the tenth poorest 855 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: district in the nation. And we continue to be because, 856 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we continue to go downward because we're we're 857 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: completely being neglected. We're neglecting our people where they need 858 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 1: it the most, and that's housing. What has our people, 859 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: What have our city elected officials done with the money 860 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: that we've passed a few billion dollars towards building housing 861 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: and towards homelessness and eradicating it. They've spent seven hundred 862 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: thousand dollars of unit. I think they built a couple 863 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: of units, not even. And so it's it's a matter 864 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 1: of wow, like we could be doing so much for 865 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: our people right now. And so another main component of 866 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,720 Speaker 1: Homes Guarantee is this idea of creating twelve million social 867 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: housing units, just like in Europe where and the twelve 868 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: million number is based on those experiencing homelessness UM in 869 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: our country. And so it's building at least twelve million 870 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 1: social housing units where people won't have to pay more 871 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: than a third of their income. Well, there will be 872 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 1: program in policies in place, um, and so it's allowing 873 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: for those that shortage now to be addressed on a big, 874 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: radical change scale. And so this is these are the 875 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: types of change that we really need right now. A 876 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: second f drum type of era. UM. I'm not I'm 877 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: sure I've mentioned this on one of our podcasts at 878 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 1: some point, UM, but especially like when you were talking 879 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: about the Hindi Act. I mean so much what you 880 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 1: said resonates with me. UM. My father for has worked 881 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 1: in nonprofits. He's retired now, but he was running uh 882 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: A rehabilitation facility in northern californ and in by that 883 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: because of that was you know, on different council boards 884 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: and stuff, and and to talk about homelessness and different things. 885 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: And in half Moon Bay, for example, there was this 886 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: big tract of land and people were we had they 887 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: had a developer or somebody that had a plan for 888 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:24,919 Speaker 1: how to quickly build public housing something something they wanted 889 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: to do. But the but the hurdle was zoning. The 890 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 1: hurdle was getting permission from the city. And it never 891 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,919 Speaker 1: happened because there was no incentive or there was no 892 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 1: like there. It was just too much red tape, too 893 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: many things. And it's like, we have the land, you 894 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: have the resources, you have somebody willing to do it, um, 895 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: And they couldn't pull it together. And and and that. 896 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's more details that I'm missing from this story, 897 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: but it's it's so inherently frustrating and wrong. Um. And 898 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: for years we've been watching in California and Los Angeles, 899 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: in San Francisco the homeless, uh, the in housed population 900 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: explode because of all of the stuff that we've been 901 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: talking about today. And I see this happening and people 902 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: can just walk past it. They don't want to have homelessness, 903 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: you know, a blight on the community. They don't want 904 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: this lower income stuff. Well, now it's something that you 905 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: can't ignore. It's it makes it feel like you know, 906 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: two years ago or you know, you just can't ignore 907 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: the fact that that this is a crisis and it's 908 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: at our doorsteps, and we shouldn't be ignoring it. We 909 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: need to be This needs to be a huge priority 910 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: for all of us. And it goes back to everything 911 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: that we've been saying before. We want our economy to 912 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: boom when we need to have people taken care of 913 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: and have access to basic resources to live their life, 914 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 1: to to make money, to spend money, um and and yes, 915 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: so yeah you're out of steam there, but no, you're 916 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: you're and it's this, it's this, and it's this. We 917 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: we put our communities in such a paralysis state where 918 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 1: now we have so many unhoused neighbors and and people 919 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,279 Speaker 1: we know where we we also want to help, and 920 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: we are and that's why we have mutual aid networks 921 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and other groups that help help out 922 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: like Caton for All and Street Watch and a lot 923 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: of great groups. But there comes a certain point too, 924 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: because we are also using our own resources to give 925 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,359 Speaker 1: the limited resources that our government allows for. And so 926 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: it's become such a serious point now where like people 927 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: are dying, like people are literally dying. Why aren't you 928 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: common during hotels to house our unhoused neighbors right now 929 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: when when they need a place to stay right now, 930 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 1: especially during a pandemic. Why why is that not being 931 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: the first thing being done right now? Um, out of 932 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 1: any elected officials conscious, heart, and mind, why is that 933 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: not the first thing? And it's because they see they 934 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: only see numbers, they only see money, they only see popularity, 935 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: they only see career, job stability to continue to be 936 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,399 Speaker 1: reelected because they don't know anything else besides the six 937 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: digit salary that they're getting. So they're going to do 938 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: all that they can to to hold on to that 939 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: job and position. They're going to do all that they 940 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: can to continue taking the corporate money that will give 941 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 1: them the emotional security and financial security that everything will 942 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: be okay, even though the people are suffering, and they 943 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: don't even view the people as human beings were all viewed, 944 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: let alone viewing our un housed brothers and sisters as ghosts. 945 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: They're viewing now they're starting to view masses of people 946 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: as just ghosts and just as subjects in a way, 947 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 1: as just another number, when we're actually all human beings 948 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: and not one of us is less than another, not 949 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: one soul um. And so it's this moral revolution that 950 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: really needs to happen on such a deep, deep level. 951 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's an element of not seeing them 952 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: as voters, you know, seeing people that don't have a 953 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: mailing address as somebody that they need to reach out 954 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,720 Speaker 1: to for support. UM. The disenfranchiseman is is. The disfranchiseman 955 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: is crazy in the sense of whether it be those 956 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: of our family neighbors, brothers, and sisters that are incarcerated, 957 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 1: whether it be those that are living on housed, whether 958 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: it be those that are living as undocumented workers in 959 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: our Latino communities, are our Korean communities and our Thai communities, etcetera. 960 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 1: They are being taxed without representation. That's tyranny. UM. Los 961 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: Angeles was built on the labor of our brown brothers 962 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: and sisters. They don't have a voice right now, they 963 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: don't have a say. But then what the Democratic Party 964 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: and machine does in California is because we're California and diverse. 965 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: Instead of putting and instead of putting like older white 966 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: people in office to to to go ahead and do 967 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: what they want, they put people that look like the 968 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: people in their communities to this eve them and say, hey, 969 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: they're actually legislating on your behalf. But they're completely not 970 00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: My My opponent says he's all for the immigrant communities, 971 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 1: but he's the one who voted to initially authorizing fund ICE. 972 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 1: And it's like people people don't really go in deeper 973 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: into who they're voting for, and they just think, oh, 974 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 1: the person looks like our community, so we're going to 975 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: vote for him. No, the Democrats, and I didn't mean 976 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: to turn this into a democratic machine, but what I 977 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: was about to do. So that's what that's what they're 978 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,560 Speaker 1: that's what they're doing in California. They're finding little puppets 979 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: to put into place to keep the people under control. 980 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,440 Speaker 1: Like that's not right. Yeah, no, no, no no. I I'm 981 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: thrilled that you brought this up because the next thing 982 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about was Jimmy Gomez. 983 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 1: He's the Democratic incumbent currently holding district um uh and 984 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, I wanted you to talk a little bit 985 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 1: about him. Um. And of your experience is running a 986 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: against a Democratic incumbent more about elucidated, more about what 987 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: you were just saying, essentially, um, what this has been like? 988 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,839 Speaker 1: And yeah, I guess just a uh tag on just 989 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: sort of your perception of dealing with like the Democratic 990 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 1: Party in general. And if there's a sense of you 991 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: can get a sense like everyone like there's a lot 992 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: of frustration from the party when people show up to 993 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: point out that they're not doing anything or enough and 994 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 1: better things are possible. Basically is a message they're they're 995 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: really they're really shy about um, and you can you 996 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: can get that sense in a lot of these races 997 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: across the country where people are challenging incumbents for not 998 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: doing the things that we need to do. Yeah, one 999 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: of the main or one of the very good reasons 1000 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: for running for office and challenging and incumbent is to 1001 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: off the message, hey, like, the people are holding you 1002 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: accountable and if you continue not to do what the 1003 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,640 Speaker 1: people want or what you've promised, then there's a possibility 1004 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: that you can be voted out of office. And so 1005 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: that public accountability is what helps our elected officials come 1006 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: closer to the needle too. Closer to being aligned with 1007 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: why they were elected into office in the first place. Um, 1008 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy might have been a great he's he's I have 1009 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 1: nothing personal against him. I've never met him. He he 1010 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,959 Speaker 1: might have been a great perhaps and even greater leader, 1011 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: or or a leader with qualifications. And I don't even 1012 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: know what the qualifications are. I'm not saying that there 1013 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: are certain qualifications and I fit that. But he probably 1014 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: wasn't even ten times a hundred times potential as as 1015 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: a greater leader than I was when he started. But 1016 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: right now where he's at like it's completely gone. There's 1017 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 1: no fuel left for the people because and how do 1018 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: I know that? Because he continues to vote according to 1019 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: party politic interests. Yes, he's a self alleged progressive. Yes, 1020 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: he's in this EPC, the Progressional Caucus. But what does 1021 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 1: that mean? Does that mean that he co sponsors and 1022 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 1: supports Representative il han O Mar's rent cancelation more rent 1023 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 1: and mortgage cancelation? Nah? What does that mean? That means 1024 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: he supports he supports a hundred billion dollar rent relief 1025 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,479 Speaker 1: fund that benefits landlords and that requires tenants to jump 1026 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: through hoops to prove that they don't have money to 1027 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: pay rent and put food on the table. He's for that. 1028 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: He's not for uh. He's for means tested cash relief 1029 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: UM and not a universal basic income that could go 1030 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,959 Speaker 1: straight to the pockets of people. There's a multiple bills 1031 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: out there, whether it be a Senator Kamala Harris's bill 1032 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 1: or Representative Rashida to Leive her ABC bill, which is 1033 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars recurring monthly cash relief UM. He's not 1034 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 1: the type of person that's doing that yet. He's going 1035 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: around saying I'm progressive. But what we've noticed now since 1036 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: March is he's actually and if he's listening to this, 1037 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're listening. But he's putting he's listening to 1038 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: you are campaign now because once we started doing a 1039 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: life a life stoop for COVID nineteen relief to our constituents, 1040 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,919 Speaker 1: he started doing one. Once we started doing a tech 1041 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 1: banking campaign UM sending sending resources to our constituents on 1042 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: what where to go if they're unable to pay rent, 1043 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: he started doing that. When we started doing ms on Instagram, 1044 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: he started doing that. UM. Interesting the other day I 1045 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: heard that he was very mad that this lefty Uh 1046 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,919 Speaker 1: Progressive writer podcast how he um he that he wrote 1047 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: an article about us and about our campaign, and he 1048 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: was very mad that that he was saying that we 1049 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 1: were more progressive than he was. And so so if 1050 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: that gets him to if that gets him to do 1051 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: his job, I'm glad and happy that he is. And 1052 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: so I was actually surprised that he voted yes to 1053 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 1: defund the Pentagon by ten percent last week, and I 1054 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: was like, a good job, jim, I mean felt certainly 1055 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: take some credit for that. Well, because everything you've been 1056 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: saying up to this point has been like, oh, he 1057 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 1: saw our campaign and he uh is doing the aesthetic 1058 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 1: thing or like the actually the campaign thing. He's looking 1059 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: at your campaign to see what you're doing as a 1060 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 1: function in campaign, not saying like, oh, I should also 1061 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: support medicare for all, Oh I should also support this. 1062 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: But that's actually like kind of wild that he did. Yeah, 1063 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: And then and we're gonna and I'm thankful that he 1064 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: did vote that way, and I give props to Jimmy. Jimmy, 1065 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 1: thank you for voting that way. Um, but we're going 1066 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: to continue pushing him. I know that he was supporting 1067 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 1: the United States Postal service. If that's the case, why 1068 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: did you take twenty five plus dollars in money from 1069 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: UPS a private competitor? So so I so I retweeted 1070 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: that yesterday I tweeted his tweet and retweeted, why are 1071 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,440 Speaker 1: you taking money from UPS? Then? So it's just I 1072 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: get I get that you want to make change and 1073 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: make it happen and show the people that you're really 1074 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: legislating for them. But do that not just in these 1075 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: single occurrence moments. Do that as a career. Do that 1076 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: as a daily lifestyle. Do that in your heart and 1077 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: intention where it's always flowing in every interview that you have, 1078 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 1: like be that person instead of trying to act like 1079 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 1: that person. And so it's also and reacting to the 1080 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,439 Speaker 1: being challenged, right, It's that that Elliott Angle comment during 1081 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: the primary. He says, I if there wasn't a primary, 1082 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even care about this, Like you literally said 1083 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: that that out loud, um. And if you're only doing 1084 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: these things if you're challenged, then maybe it also speaks 1085 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: to why a person decides to be in office. If 1086 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 1: you're just following what you're told from the establishment, then 1087 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,760 Speaker 1: you want to be in office because you want power. 1088 01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: You want to be in office because you like the 1089 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: status or whatever it is, and you're you know, versus 1090 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: being an office because you want to help people. Being 1091 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: in office because you want to make a difference. Um. 1092 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 1: And I mean I think that hearing you speak for 1093 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: this hour and you're in your background, it's clear that 1094 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: that's what your focus is. You know, from your time 1095 01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 1: working in different capacities as a lawyer, you're like, it's 1096 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: not about money. It's a I mean, sure we all 1097 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 1: have to make money, but it's about helping people. And uh, 1098 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,680 Speaker 1: it's just vitally important that more people like you step 1099 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: up and and the bare minimum, we're challenging the establishment. Um, 1100 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,439 Speaker 1: but we're also making significant strides and changing perception of things, 1101 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: and we're going to get more and more of us 1102 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 1: in office. Um. And I think that that is such 1103 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: a positive, hopeful, inspiring thing to be focusing on right 1104 01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: now and focusing our efforts. There's a lot of us 1105 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 1: that are disillusioned with this primary in terms of the 1106 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: presidential race. Fair fine, but there are so many people 1107 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 1: like you all over this country that are stepping up 1108 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,120 Speaker 1: and filling this void, and it's vital that we focus 1109 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,200 Speaker 1: our our attention on these kinds of races so that 1110 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: we can make the difference that we want. It's disappointing 1111 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: that we don't have Bernie or Yang you know, leading 1112 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: the ticket right now, but there's so much progress that's 1113 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: still being made. Um and it's it's I think it's 1114 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: important for us right now, emotionally, spiritually, economically to remember that, yeah, 1115 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,920 Speaker 1: you you nailed it, you closed it very well. They 1116 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: pay me the just fine bucks for that. UM. Can 1117 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: you please tell our audience where they can find you online, 1118 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: how they can support you. I know I'm supporting you. 1119 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 1: I am nine sure, I am in your district and 1120 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: I will be voting for you. Um, but how how 1121 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: can everybody else support you? Yeah? Thank you for asking, Katie. 1122 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 1: One of the biggest challenges for US is campaign finance. 1123 01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: So obviously one of our top priorities is to we 1124 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: form campaign finance where it's not corporate money that's deciding 1125 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: who gets elected, but it's where it's truly the people. UM. 1126 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: So go check out our democracy Dollars on David Hi 1127 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: dot com to learn more about that. But as as 1128 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: a grassroots candidate, a candidate and a campaign, we are 1129 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: a percent people powered So while our opponent has eight 1130 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: percent of his donations being from corporate interests and big 1131 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 1: donors and with a campaign werehist of a million dollars, 1132 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: we don't have that much money. So if you're able 1133 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,240 Speaker 1: to chip in, that's great, go to David dot com 1134 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: board slash donate UM. But if you're unable to, that's 1135 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: totally fine. Please don't donate, like use your money for yourself, 1136 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: like buy food, pay save it for rent, take care 1137 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: of yourself. And there's other ways you can help out, 1138 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: which is volunteering remotely through our text banking or phone 1139 01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: banking volunteer programs, or it's even or if it's even 1140 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 1: calling a friend or family member in Los Angeles, it's 1141 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 1: sharing our websitely and sharing this interview and saying hey, 1142 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: you want to you want more podcasts that there's a 1143 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: great one, worst year ever, check out this episode, So 1144 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: do that. UM. There's creative ways UM to help us 1145 01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,360 Speaker 1: in that sense, and so so volunteer, donate, spread the word, 1146 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: and it will be very grateful. I definitely will be 1147 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 1: doing all of the above. UM. If you've got those 1148 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: little lawn signs, I'll put him in my front yard. Yes, yes, really, 1149 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: really lit up. David, thank you so much for joining this. 1150 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: This has been a delight. Um. We will be following 1151 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: this closely and helping in any way that we can. Okay, great, 1152 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me Katie so fortun 1153 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,919 Speaker 1: all right, bye bye, and that does it for us 1154 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: today on the Worst Year Ever. Please go check out 1155 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,800 Speaker 1: David's website, support him in whatever way you can if 1156 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: you can. Um, you can check us out online to 1157 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,600 Speaker 1: at worst your pod on Instagram, on Twitter, you can 1158 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 1: follow us too if you want, and all that stuff. 1159 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: That's good. It's true. I could agree with you more, 1160 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: but I don't know what that would mean. Does not 1161 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 1: disagree with me completely, and that's how it's important. Cool. 1162 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. Leader Everything, Everything so dumb. 1163 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 1: It's again I tried. Worst Year Ever is a production 1164 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. 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