1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff. 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: I'm there told to your production of iHeart Radio, and 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: welcome to another happy hour that we're actually doing on 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: a Thursday, as it is released on a Thursday. Yes, 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: we are recording on a Thursday, and as you're listening, 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: it is a Thursday. Well actually no, we have no 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: idea when you're listening. But if you're listening to any yes, 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: As I said, it's just a reminder. The company that 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: we are talking about does not sponsor us. We discovered 10 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: them and I didn't get a lot of detail, but 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: because I was in Jacksonville, Florida, I was like, I 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: need female run, female owned, female head of breweries. And 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: we found one called a Bold City Brewing. And if 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: you are drinking, drink response bleep no matter what you drink, 15 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: because as we discussed last time, caffeine can mess with 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: you too. As a reminder, yeah, Samantha recently kindly gave 17 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: me these caffeine. They're not mint because they're not a mint, 18 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: but like a tablets other ments technically like they're like 19 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: the category of ments but not yeah right, um, And 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: last night I could not sleep and I had my 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: two cups of coffee because I'm a two cup cow. 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: But around eleven, I was like, I'm going to need 23 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: more than the two cups today, So I had on 24 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: those mints. But I'm doing it all right. It was 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: half a cup, okay, so two and a half. I 26 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: didn't broach the three. I didn't go past that one, okay, 27 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: but you were up still. Oh I feel it now, 28 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: I'm like wired. The next day, no, no, no no, eleven 29 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: am today So okay, I thought you said yesterday you 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: couldn't sleep, so last night you couldn't sleep. I couldn't 31 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: make it a lot higher now, Okay, I've caught up 32 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: the story. So if you're in caffeine's responsibly on that 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: as well. But today we are featuring a Bold City 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: Brewing which is located in Jacksonville, Florida. Apparently they have 35 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: two locations and we only found the one in downtown. 36 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: There's another one bartender very nice there. We got some 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: little uh stickers, very nice. But the reason we are 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: talking about them and featuring them, it is actually owned 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: by a mother's son team, Susan and Brian Miller. Her 40 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: son is the actual brewer who has been home brewing 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: since early two thousands um. And when he kind of 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: came up with the idea and sold her on it, 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: she quit her day job and she became a creator 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: with him. She became a fair supporter and handles the 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: corporate and business side of the business, so she is 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the brains in that financial part of that. And when 47 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: speaking about supporting her son, she stated that quote the 48 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: risk didn't seem so big when she just considered the 49 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: likelihood of his success, believing in what he could do. 50 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: And he actually took her around to teach her about 51 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: brewing as well as to go to a conference. She 52 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: got really excited and came on board with this idea. 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: And he said about his mother that he couldn't do 54 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: this business without her and talking about her dedication and 55 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: hard work between spending nights in the tap room, helping 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: behind the bar, and her business savvy and helping to 57 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: grow the business. And they are growing indeed, so we 58 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: wanted to feature them. And yeah, they apparently worked really well. 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: It's a whole family business, such a beautiful thing, right 60 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: when they're functioning families. That's how I do it. But 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: today we are drinking two different beers. I actually got 62 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: three because I also got one of their main staples, 63 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: which is a brown nail we had earlier last week, 64 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: but we're not featuring them today. We are drinking two 65 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: different ones, and mine is called Brian's a Beard des Guarde, which, 66 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: by the way, um is a specialty beer. It's a 67 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: seasonal beer and I don't know how much longer it's 68 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: going to be around. And it is delightful. It is 69 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: one of those doctor ales, but golden brown ish and 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: it has a lot of like to me, brown sugar 71 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: ish taste with that barley um multi for sure, and 72 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: it is a delight I ate a corn dog with it, y'all, 73 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: and it was great. She did. I was very happy, 74 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: for very happy. I was very happy. I ate a 75 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: turkey corn dog that feels very similar to me. I 76 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: don't know if it is, but it feels. It was 77 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: against another avenue for me to eat more ketchup and mustard. 78 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: Apparently I'm obsessed with sugary tomatoes and spicy mustard. I understand. 79 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: I went through a period in college where I was 80 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: just eating like essentially ketchup. I would disguise it in 81 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: other ways, right, but I was really there for the ketchup, 82 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: and I even went on the whole deep dive of like, 83 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: why do we crave what we crave? Is there a 84 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: probab what is the time? I'm like, what is my 85 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: body saying to me? But back on this beer de God, which, 86 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: if I'm saying it wrong, correct me? I guess? According 87 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: to Untapped, these are the beer Notes was brewed in 88 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: collaboration with Casque competition winner and home brewer Brian Nusk. 89 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: I guess Brian Miller is going back to that home 90 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: brewing route and his roots. It features a big malt 91 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: presence with notes of caramel and toffee the sweetness along 92 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: with a slightly fruit and citrus undertone from the cubic 93 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: vas yeast. Yes, correct me on that too, which helps 94 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: balance the high A b V and makes this beer 95 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: easy to drink and perfect for the springtime weather. Oh, 96 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: springtime weather. Meanwhile, I am drinking the Psychotic Probiotic, which 97 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: is a barrel formentous sour and the beer notes from 98 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: home Tapped are This is the fourth year of the 99 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: Sour celera barrel project, a very tart and tropical, fruity 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: golden sour. So I have been trying to detect what 101 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: fruit I would think it is because it is very tart. 102 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: It's like the type of tart where your mouth kind 103 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: of puckers and waters. But I mean, I really enjoy it. 104 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: But I think that's one of the things I'm tasting 105 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: was because I can tell it's very fruity. I couldn't 106 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: tell which fruit, but if it's tropical, then there's kind 107 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: of that heavier, almost multi sweetness, but it's it's still 108 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: very refreshing and fruity, but maybe like a pineapple or 109 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: something is going on. I'm not great at, as you know, 110 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: describing taste. I did it that one time saying that 111 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: you do a good job, so I don't think you 112 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: can claim that anymore. I did it. I did it 113 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: the one time, and I'm very impressed. But I I'm 114 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: impressed with myself. Now you do a good job, because 115 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: I think the thing when it comes to and why 116 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: it's called probiotic, is that yogurts or leaning sound. It 117 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: is not your typical so you've got that yeast that 118 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: makes it a little more sour but bready, and it's 119 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily fruit, but you want to associate that with 120 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: some kind of citrusy level. So is that and the 121 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: kimbucha is that same level when you have something soured, 122 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: when you have a kimchi, when you have anything perfermented, 123 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: it tastes sour but not necessarily fruity, but we still 124 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: associate that sour with fruity. So I think you're right. 125 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: It may not be a natural fruit, which is why 126 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: they can't or they don't describe it as a fruit either. Yeah, 127 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: that's a good point. It does. It does kind of 128 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: remind me of like a yogurt or kob level. All right, Okay, 129 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm into it in either case. It makes it almost 130 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: effervescent as well, And I feel the same way about yogurts. 131 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, why is this god? Like a tang pop? Almost? 132 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: What I want to talk about is this mother child 133 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: will relationship because I was a little bit envious so 134 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: they could have a business. And they did say at 135 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: one point in one of their interviews it was a 136 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: make or break. They knew there was going to harm 137 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: their relationship or make it better, but they were able 138 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: to communicate and they're good. And I thought about that too. 139 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: It was like mother child relationships. You don't see many 140 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: that are successful in adulthood and partnerships necessarily. I'm not 141 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that, but I did have some personal 142 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: questions for you, Annie, and because we are called stuff 143 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: mom never told you. And I know this goes back 144 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: to Kristen congress all definition of this not realizing it 145 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: would carry unto now because yeah, there's a lot of 146 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: things where like not everybody has moms and not having 147 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: mom is not a good thing necessarily, or maybe a 148 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: great thing. Or maybe you have a mom who is open, 149 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: or you don't want to be reminding that you have 150 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: a mom, or you have two dads you know all 151 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: of those things, or you were raised by a grandparents. 152 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: And I know that was that conversation. But going back 153 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: to our show, you do have a mom, as do 154 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: I do. What is something sing that your mom didn't 155 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: tell you that you wish she had. I think it's 156 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: hard to put into words, but it's essentially that it's 157 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: okay to say no and like be okay with because 158 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: she was really she was my biggest defender. She was 159 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: somebody who's like my brothers would be making fun of 160 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: me for my love of Star Wars even though that 161 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: love of Star Wars, and she would like step in 162 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: like no, nothing's wrong, like she likes this, nothing's wrong 163 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: with her and been so she was always there to 164 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: do those kinds of things. But I did observe her, 165 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: and one of my favorite characteristics of her is she's 166 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: very nice. But one of the I struggle was saying 167 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: no to this day or knowing what I want to say. 168 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: And I don't blame that on all on her at all, 169 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: but I think like maybe a direct conversation about it 170 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: would have helped. Because my mom, my family in general, 171 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: doesn't have great communication about things that aren't lighthearted, and 172 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: so there were several instances where I would ask. I 173 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: remember I asked once of my mom, like, what the 174 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: hell is going on down here with my anatomy? She's like, 175 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: I'll tell you later. We never returned to that conversation. 176 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: That could be for any number of reasons, but things 177 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I've thought about this a lot because 178 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: it is the title of our show, and I guess 179 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: it's it's sort of hard to name one specific thing 180 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: because it feels like what I'm saying is basically the 181 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: patriarchy sucks. She could have told me that, but I 182 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't have understood it anyway. Really, right, you know, I 183 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: think I have a lot of complicated things with my 184 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: mom and the things that she did do well, I 185 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: kind of wish I could flip it, and I really 186 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: wish she was able and I was able to tell 187 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: her how great she was at some of these things. 188 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: She's probably one of the most creative people I've ever 189 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: met in my life. As well as when it comes 190 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: to like arranging or organizing, she could have been the 191 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Southern Marie Condo, like the way she organizes, the way 192 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: she was able to be so for well, she was 193 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: a coupon mom before there were coupon moms. Like when 194 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: it came down to how to save money, she is 195 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: a genius in budgeting. But she would never recognize all 196 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: of that, and she never taught me how to do 197 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: that myself. She just knew she had to because she 198 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: had four children. At one point in time, there was 199 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: one income, and she was in charge of all of 200 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: the bills and making sure it was done. So I 201 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: really think that she had that. Of course, this came 202 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: with a level of anxiety and constant doubt from her, 203 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: but she did it, and I really wish that she 204 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: was able to see that and that she could have 205 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: taught that to me. Of course, it's my fault because 206 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: we did have like a whole barrier because she wanted 207 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: to be best friends. And I'm not about parents at 208 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: that point in time, because I still mistrusted parents and 209 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm still do to this day a little bit. And 210 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: we've had back and forth conversations, but there's this whole 211 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: level that I'm like, man, I really wish I could 212 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: have learned that from you. And in that same round, 213 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I really wish have taught you how 214 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: amazing you were doing in doing these things, as well 215 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: as that you're missing out because of the fear of 216 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: so many of these things, and because she was a 217 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,239 Speaker 1: genuinely like genius woman, but she's in her mind not educated, 218 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,119 Speaker 1: not smart enough in comparison to those who are educated, 219 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: having self doubt that people actually liked her or wanted 220 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: her to do it, and then also it was so 221 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: scared that she was going to offend somebody that's her level, 222 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: and seeing looking back and like, man, you do some 223 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: amazing shop and I'm really sad that you don't see 224 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: that you did some amazing show, like and if I 225 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: had been able to be as frugal and as aware 226 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: as you are, and of course for her. I'm sure 227 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: it was survival. But I'm like, you have no idea 228 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: how big of a talent that is today? And I 229 00:12:51,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: think about that a lot. What is something that she 230 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: did tell you that you value even more today? There's 231 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: one answer that comes to mind immediately, and I don't 232 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: know why, but she once told me, and this is 233 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna sound kind of grim, especially when I just came 234 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: from like she we only have arted conversations, and we 235 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: only she told me once when I was like nine 236 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: or ten, she said money doesn't buy happiness, but it 237 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: makes it easier. And then she went on to tell 238 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: me that I should question essentially the American dream. Uh. 239 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: And it was the first time I'd ever heard. Because 240 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: for people outside of the United States, you do not know, 241 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: we get like bombarded with this. I think they understand now, 242 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: and that's why they don't like Americans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 243 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: that's that's true. But I mean, like, when from a 244 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: young age we get like this, you could accomplish anything. 245 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you're just gonna set your mind to it. 246 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: And my mom and I are very very open with 247 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: each other now, and it's something I really value and 248 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: were we all talk about all kinds of things, and 249 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: it's meant in the world to me to hear her 250 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: experiences and kind of having these adult conversations. But when 251 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: I was a kid, that just really stuck out to me. 252 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that that's especially I don't know, 253 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: like it's it's wise, but it's not like you can't 254 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: people don't know that. But as a child, was very 255 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: stressed about money, and I think she knew that, and 256 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: it was she was trying to communicate to me, like, 257 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, your your worries are valid, like you see 258 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: this message in movies all the time, and that you 259 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: don't need money to buy happiness. And I think that's true, 260 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: but she was just like, you know, it does make 261 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: it easier. It's stuck out with uh. And that was 262 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: one of the first times where I was like, you know, 263 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: maybe mom's really stressed about stuff. That's real. That's real. 264 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: I think for me, she made a comment without realizing 265 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: she made a comment, which was about the fact that 266 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: when I started traveling, which happened I started. I went 267 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: to Puerto Rico for a summer in senior year. I 268 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: went to California right before my senior year for a 269 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks to hang out with our family in California. 270 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: I had the best time they provided for us. I 271 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: didn't know what they were doing, but they bought us 272 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: tickets to Universal. They bought us tickets to the game, 273 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: like we didn't pay for any of that. And then 274 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: when I went to Europe after college, she made a 275 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: comment about how she never got to travel and I 276 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: should be grateful, Like it was a little bit of jealousy, 277 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: but I think it stuck with me and that as 278 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: much as she loved her family and as much as 279 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: she loved her life, and she does there there's nothing 280 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: in her life. I think she would say she she 281 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: would change ever, But it did seem interesting that she 282 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: said that because she also had said to me kind 283 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: of just saying, you know, after you have kids, things change. 284 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Was that in I think this was after my sister 285 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: had a child, who was the first of the family 286 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: to have a kid of my siblings, and she wasn't 287 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: just trying to imply I don't have any regrets, but 288 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: this is something I wish I was able to do. 289 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: I wish I could do, and I think she was 290 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: trying since then, but with her back pain, she can't 291 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: travel as much. I think she's finally gotten to a 292 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: point she can do a little more. She finally got 293 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: to go to New York. I think she went to California. 294 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: I'll have to go back, and I'm a bad daughter. 295 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: This is a while ago and hazes of things, but 296 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: like being able to actually travel. And and she talked 297 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: about when I went to Italy how jealous she was 298 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: that I had gone to Italy, and it was that 299 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: was playful. The other comments about me going and was 300 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: not as much, but it inspired like, Oh, I need 301 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: to get the things I want done first. I need 302 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: to be able to get to there. Need to be 303 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: able to do these things before it's too late. Because 304 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: there are moments I could feel like that. It is 305 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: whether it is because you have children, it's more expensive, 306 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: you get caught up in your work, like all of 307 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: these things which you and I have talked about with 308 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: trying to take vacation, it is hard. It's actually like 309 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: coming back was successful, even though we had overprepared and 310 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: we worked out all for like through like a month 311 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: trying to make sure we caught up, but then when 312 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: we came back there was so much to catch up on. 313 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: It took us two weeks to get to hear. It 314 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: was kind of that implication that you need to try 315 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: when you can because you don't know what might stop 316 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: you later that is unavoidable. Yeah, yeah, that's well. Yeah. 317 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: We talked about that a lot, about how we had 318 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: these kind of perceptions our lives would be and then 319 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: what they turned out to be. And that has been 320 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: something I've seen with my mom as well. As she'll 321 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: when I'll ask her like, well, what is something you want? 322 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: Like you've focused almost your whole life on what other 323 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: people want, what is something you want? And she'll say 324 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: kind of timidly to me, like I would like to travel. 325 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: We can make this happen for you. We can do this. 326 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: But it is kind of heartbreaking in this sense of 327 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: like she's never asked, had someone asked her that before, 328 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: been asked, even asked herself that before, or you know, 329 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: not not in a serious manner, perhaps not didn't entertain 330 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: in a serious way. I will say, for some reason, 331 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: this really sticks out with me. But one time my 332 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: mom she kept a really detailed scrapbook. I don't even 333 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: know if that's a correct word, but it's like every 334 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 1: year you would update and like during her fourteenth year 335 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: of life or whatever. And I just remember she asked 336 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: me once, like, what is your favorite song? And I 337 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: told her it was P. O. D Sleeping Awake from 338 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: at the time the matrix reloaded, which is where I'd 339 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: heard it, not alive, and she just the fact that 340 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: she wrote it down, She asked me, and she wrote 341 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: it down as if it was important and it matters it. 342 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: That's so sweet, you know what. My mother again, one 343 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: of her talents is scrapbooking. When I say so, we 344 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: had a huge fire that burned a majority of stuff, 345 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: and as a child, I didn't have many things to 346 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: begin with. My photos didn't start till I with seven, 347 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: so I have no pictures of me being a baby, 348 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: none of those things. Being adopted. Literally being taken with 349 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: a small backpack from a home at six five years 350 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: old to an orphan meant that I had nothing, and 351 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: my mother did her best to keep as much as 352 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: she could, and when it burned, she would find the 353 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: scraps that were burned around the edges, cut around it 354 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: and put it into my scrap book. And I'm very 355 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: grateful for that. I don't do photos. I am the 356 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: worst when it comes to things like this I have 357 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: not sentimental and I think it has everything to do 358 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: with that type of background. But my mother is queen. 359 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you she should have had and she did 360 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: have a couple of businesses that she just stopped because 361 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: she got too busy with kids. That she should be 362 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: as successful as Marie Condo. Still in my mind now, 363 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: with like getting older, I don't think she would ever 364 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: attempt it, but she should. And I will post up 365 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: a picture of my scrap book. I think we need 366 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: to pictures of our scrap book any because my mother 367 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: is queen. But it's a talent that I don't have 368 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: and I wish I did. I have several scrapbooks. One 369 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: is from my time in Australia, but the rest are 370 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: from I kid you not my experience loving Harry Potter 371 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: and Star Wars cutouts and pop up They're impressive. I 372 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: gotta say I want to see those as well. My 373 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: mother did quotes and she she even put in there 374 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: I don't. I think we talked about are weird phobias. 375 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: I have a really bad phobia about polka dots and 376 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: the dots and especially misshaping dots um and she put 377 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: that in one of my pictures as as a thought bubble. 378 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, I watched suicide Squads and oh 379 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: my god, Anny, you didn't prepare me. The polka dot 380 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: guy the starfish was worse. I told you about the starfish. 381 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: You didn't tell me had all of your dots and 382 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: like weird shapes on a skin, I was not ready. 383 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: As an argument, we need to have off Samantha, to mother, 384 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: to the things they did not tell us, and to 385 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: the things they did. Cheers and cheers to you listeners. 386 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: If you would like to write to us, we would 387 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: as always loved to hear from you our emails, Stuff 388 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: Media mom stuff at iHeart media dot com. You can 389 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at momst podcasts or on Instagram 390 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: and stuff I've Never told you. 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