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Speaker 1: Yeah, even if it means that Lebron doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: He was hitting this thing so hard. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: Ideal situation that well, maybe not idea that he had

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Speaker 4: It's just hard. It's just so I think. I think

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Speaker 4: guys like Russell Westbrook, who I love watching it Russell

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Speaker 4: Even though the Rockets have been really competitive, they just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And this was a good Westbrook game. I think

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Speaker 1: He's been playing really well for Houston as one of

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Speaker 1: Cool Morris, you know Danny Green hitting threes. That's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just listen to No Dunks.

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Speaker 5: There are some other podcasts out there that will tell

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Speaker 4: Not us.

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Speaker 5: We knew, we knew what was happening here. And Anthony

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Speaker 2: Do the math.

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Speaker 5: That's two points per shot. It's very, very good. And

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Speaker 5: And that's exactly what happened in the second half. The

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Speaker 4: We don't count free throws as shots. I just find

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Speaker 1: Well I was now I forget actually what I was

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Speaker 1: what it was. You said it the Trey. The funny

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Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, Dwa I think with that second unit going

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Speaker 2: Do you still believe in the Rockets make this a series?

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Speaker 4: Ly?

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Speaker 2: Do you know going deep?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I mean again that first off, the Rockets led at halftime,

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Speaker 3: you know, and they led off to three quel game two,

437
00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,200
Speaker 3: so they've certainly shown enough. But it's the forty eight

438
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,159
Speaker 3: minute commitment that's really what it's going to have to

439
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,200
Speaker 3: take from Houston and when they are playing at their best,

440
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 3: and again that ball's moving around, and on defense, they're

441
00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 3: moving around as well and getting out to the Lakers

442
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,199
Speaker 3: shots and making it difficult as difficult as possible as

443
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,879
Speaker 3: they can for Lakers, because I honestly, I think the

444
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 3: Rockets would probably live with twenty nine points from Lebron

445
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,639
Speaker 3: because that means he's doing so much on the offensive end,

446
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 3: and that's not what the Lakers want. They don't want

447
00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,880
Speaker 3: to play that way, So the Rockets probably okay with that, again,

448
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 3: especially because they led. But that's the thing. The real

449
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 3: question here is just is other legs starting to catch

450
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 3: up with the Rockets a little bit in these games,

451
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Speaker 3: because we've seen it now in the last two games

452
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,199
Speaker 3: where they've just not been able to quite maintain that

453
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 3: same energy. But again, a lot of that is just

454
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 3: that the Lakers and Lebron seem to turn it up

455
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 3: in that fourth quarter, So that's going to be the key.

456
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 3: But I, you know, I don't like it's certainly heading

457
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,959
Speaker 3: towards a gentleman a douchebag sweep here for the Lakers.

458
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 3: Game before will be the big one there for the

459
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 3: Houston Rockets, but they've shown enough that they can win

460
00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,040
Speaker 3: another game for me.

461
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, you're calling pot disability of back to back

462
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 1: douchebag from the Lakers.

463
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 2: You called nuchbeg, but maybe.

464
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 3: We should call Lebron and Lebron's sweet not a douchebag

465
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 3: sweight because this is Tim Yeah, this is his m

466
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 3: I isn't that. I mean he just like the feel

467
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 3: out game one here you go, yeah, well then I'll

468
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,119
Speaker 3: then I'll just crush you in the next four games.

469
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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we'll see any any other random observations

470
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Speaker 1: or notes from this one.

471
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Speaker 4: I just want to say the Lakers, playing their version

472
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 4: of small, you know, without a big on the floor,

473
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 4: did a great job of taking away the threes from

474
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Speaker 4: the Rockets. They only got up thirty. They want to

475
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 4: hit thirty then, Yeah, twelve of thirty, even though it's

476
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 4: a good percentage, even though they're their main guys like

477
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 4: Harden eleven for twenty three, Westbrook thirteen for twenty four,

478
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 4: Jeffy Green seven for eleven from the floor, Robbie Bobby

479
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 4: Cove four for seven, Like, they all shot pretty well,

480
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 4: but lept Derek Gordon Yeah skip that on the box score.

481
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah he was the only one who really had a

482
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 4: bad night. Yeah, it wasn't feeling it. They ran him

483
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 4: off the line really well. But that's they did a

484
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 4: good job. Really they were. They were getting out there

485
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 4: and that's how they win ball games. They ran Russell

486
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 4: Westbrook off the line pretty well. I still love seeing

487
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 4: a Russell Westbrook banker, especially on that camera angle we get.

488
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: He goes right to the left. Oh baby, There's just

489
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 4: not too many guys who go to the banker. People

490
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 4: were saying, maybe he's got a bank his three so

491
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 4: he'll have a better percentage. It's possible, because yeah, it's

492
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Speaker 4: it's it doesn't look like it's going in.

493
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Speaker 2: No, it does.

494
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 4: You don't trust it. But then bang way high off

495
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 4: the glass. There's just not too many dudes left. Drag.

496
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Speaker 4: It's just still doing it. There's just not a lot

497
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 4: of dudes who go bank anymore.

498
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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially guards, for sure. It's rare to see the

499
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: point guard, whatever shooting guard you want to call Westbrook. Yeah,

500
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: just explode to a spot, rise up, get super high,

501
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: and then just rifles it off the glass.

502
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Speaker 2: Because that's the thing.

503
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: His shots are not the prettiest, you know, softest, highest

504
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: arcing shots in the world. So he just ricochetes it

505
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: off the rim. But he had it going all right.

506
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: It was a decent Westbrook game, and may he had

507
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: some fight left him and left in him late in

508
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 1: that game. I thought he was fired up after every

509
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: like the sort of garbage timish like basket he's trying

510
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: to keep them around, but he is. I couldn't believe

511
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: he didn't get tech. It felt like he was just

512
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: screaming at the ref or maybe it was the opposition

513
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: he was screaming at every time he scored there late,

514
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: like just trying to will this team back into the game,

515
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: but they were just down a little too much at

516
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: that point. Good win, good good win from the Lakers

517
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: up to one in that series. Like I said, all right,

518
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: let's move over to the Eastern Conference game from yesterday.

519
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: The Heat topped the Frea Cliss Bucks to win the

520
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: series four to one, reached the East Finals, Miami Heat

521
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: going to the East Finals. So we can talk about

522
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: the Heat getting there in this game, and we can

523
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: also talk a little bit more about Milwaukee Bucks and

524
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 1: the honest situation if we want.

525
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 2: But task has started. Where do you want to go?

526
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? I want to get to Yatis because the Heat

527
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 4: took care of business. No doubt they had the Tyler

528
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 4: hero ball going at the end. Oh got a few

529
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 4: Jimmy minutes. So yeah, it's nice for the Heat to

530
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 4: be able to rely on guy that beyond their three stars,

531
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: beyond their big three of Jimmy Butler, dragatchm bam. It's

532
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 4: oh yeah, this guy can create his own shot and

533
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 4: get it whenever he wants it. He's a rook it's it.

534
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like a rookie now when he's like

535
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: pulling out baseline floaters and transition pull up threes and

536
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: he had that slick like left handed and one like

537
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: he is, he does not play like a rookie. He's uh,

538
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: he's composed out there. He's he's got that swag as

539
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: everyone said. So I thought, yeah, that was he was

540
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: awesome for them. I thought yeah, And they trust him.

541
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Speaker 4: They trust him, oh yeah, to just do whatever he

542
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: wants out there, and that's that is something for a

543
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 4: rookie and for Eric Spolture to be able to do that.

544
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, let's just get to the other side because

545
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 4: the series is over. They took care of business there

546
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 4: in Game five, even though it wasn't a pretty basketball game.

547
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 4: Jannisto is going to be the story for now and forever.

548
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 4: But I thought he said all the right things if

549
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 4: you're a Milwaukee Bucks fan after the game, talking about

550
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 4: wanting to be there long term, as saying, some see

551
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: a wall and go in another direction, I plow through it.

552
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of jokes made about that quote. It's like, yeah,

553
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: you do that on the floor a lot too.

554
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: That's what coach said, Yeah, yeah. And he talked a

555
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: lot about culture, which I think is not a great

556
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 4: sign for the future of Mike Budenholtzer. When you talked

557
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 4: about culture, as he's saying, either he's saying one of

558
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 4: two things, saying, either our guy's got to be in

559
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: better shape to be able to go like the Miami

560
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 4: Heat every minute of every quarter, or he's saying the

561
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 4: culture needs to be not everybody has to touch the

562
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: ball every possession. My man, we get the ball in

563
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 4: the hands of the good guys. And so I'm definitely

564
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 4: skeptical of Mike Budenholzer's future, but I'm not so skeptical

565
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 4: of Giannis's immediate future. I think he'll be there for

566
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 4: at least the next year, two three. He's not going anywhere,

567
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: And I think it's also good for the NBA that

568
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 4: a small market team will likely keep it soon super

569
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: star and because you know, the general fan, if you

570
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: talk to somebody outside of our little sphere, always thinks

571
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 4: there's a player in Milwaukee, get him out of there,

572
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 4: got any arc. You know, there's a lot of a

573
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: big town bias. And you know, we'll even get to

574
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: Billy Donovan's leaving the Oklahoma City Thunder and that small

575
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 4: market franchise and how Sam Presty thinks a small market

576
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 4: team has to be built. It's a similar thing going

577
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 4: on in Milwaukee. It's hard to keep stars, and so

578
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: it's a good sign if Joannis wants to stay around,

579
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 4: and I do believe his words that he wants to

580
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 4: be a loyalist to that team. There was the rumor

581
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 4: that we talked about yesterday with Damian Lillard in Portland

582
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 4: and potentially those two guys meeting matching up. I think

583
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: they're a lot. They're very much more similar than they

584
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 4: are different in that they want to stick around their

585
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 4: small market and want to make it work. So I

586
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: think it's a good sign for Bucks fans going forward.

587
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: But do you think task he signs a five year supermax,

588
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: then this offseason expected to be what like two hundred

589
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollars because you were thinking he does

590
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: something different where he puts a little more pressure on

591
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: the organization, more immediate pressure on the organization, signing smaller

592
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: deals like we've seen from some of these superstars, and

593
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: he goes that route instead of the five year supermax.

594
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: You think that's the case.

595
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I think the front office says to him, hey,

596
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: you'd also be helping us if you put your name

597
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: on the dotted line, even if it's for just another

598
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 4: one plus one or two years, because that signifies the

599
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: free agents that you're at least going to be around,

600
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 4: and that would help us. And so I think he

601
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: wants to help the franchise. But five years, even though

602
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 4: it's a the jillion dollars, because they can offer him more.

603
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, I just maybe I'm just I'm reading

604
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 4: into the believing the smoke, I guess with all this

605
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: talk about him leaving a little bit. But I don't know,

606
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 4: you guys think, but five years just seems like a

607
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 4: long time.

608
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 5: He shouldn't sign a five year deal. He should not

609
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 5: sign a five year deal with the Bucks. They had

610
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 5: a chance to bring back their entire squad from life season,

611
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 5: and they cheaped out on signing Eric or on signing

612
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 5: Malcolm Brogden, and they chose Bloodsoe instead. And I mean,

613
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 5: if you're Yannis, you look at that and you say,

614
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: you see the way that things went down in the playoffs,

615
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 5: and say, our first real chance at winning a championship,

616
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 5: they cheaped out. What's gonna happen in the next five years?

617
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 5: I would I would do a one in one. And

618
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: I mean it is encouraging to hear the words that

619
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 5: Giannis has said, but we've heard a lot of the

620
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 5: similar things from similar players in the past. I never

621
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 5: thought Kevin Durant was gonna leave Okay, see see you later.

622
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 5: I never thought Lebron would leave Cleveland the first time,

623
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 5: see you later. Never thought Lebron would leave Miami.

624
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: See you later.

625
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 5: Kyrie Irving said, yeah, I'll sign back with the Celtics

626
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 5: if you guys will have me see you later. They

627
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 5: like to say the right things, yeah, And I mean,

628
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 5: surely Giannis does want to create a culture and win

629
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 5: a championship in Milwaukee, but he needs to really start

630
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 5: flexing his muscles here and say and bring in good guys,

631
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 5: get what you can do everything you can trade our

632
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 5: draft picks. We don't need another Dante DiVincenzo around here.

633
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 5: We don't need another Pat Connatan. We need some guys

634
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 5: who are going to show up in the playoffs. We

635
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 5: can't be playing forty year old men out here with

636
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 5: me the entire time. So he should be on short contracts.

637
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 5: He should be in the Lebron scenario where you're putting

638
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 5: pressure on the front office to spend and to get

639
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 5: better every single season. Because we just saw the Bucks

640
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 5: come up short in the playoffs again, and I mean

641
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 5: it's only their second year of really being a title contender,

642
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: but in their first shot after last year finishing with

643
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: the best record in the league.

644
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: You've got the reigning MVP.

645
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 5: To not sign a guy like Malcolm Brogden, I think

646
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: was a huge error and we're all seeing it now

647
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 5: that now you have to rely on Bloedsoe. So Giannis

648
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 5: has got to be a superstar here and say I'm

649
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 5: the superstar. Do everything you can to keep me around

650
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 5: here because I will leave eventually.

651
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: Lee.

652
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three options through the Bucks here

653
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: heading into the offseason.

654
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: One, just run it back, Okay, you.

655
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: Just go all in on what you have, which is

656
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: obviously an incredible regular season team both offensively and defensively.

657
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: You basically keep the same roster, you keep the same coach.

658
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: That's option one. Option two you're keeping Giannis duh. But

659
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: you're trying to upgrade the roster. Okay, whatever that entails.

660
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: What you can do is gonna be easy, I think

661
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: with that roster, and or you fire Budenholzer and you

662
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: bring in a new boss, a new head coach. And

663
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: then the third thing I guess you could say is like,

664
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: if he doesn't sayin the extension, you look to trade honest,

665
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's really You're not gonna get

666
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: the value back for, of course, trading a two dame

667
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: MVP here.

668
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: So what do you do of those? Do you run

669
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: it back?

670
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: Do you just try and upgrade the roster and maybe

671
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: keep Boonholzer, or do you move off of Boonholzer and

672
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: bringing someone else to try and see if you can

673
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: get more potential out of them in the playoffs.

674
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely not option three. There's it's between one

675
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: or two. Now, I mean we talked about playoff rundo,

676
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: but playoff coach but is also a thing for the

677
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: wrong reasons. Really, I mean he comes up short. So

678
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: if you are the Bucks, and again on all those

679
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: things you guys are saying are right that they need

680
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: Jannist needs to flex his muscles and basically say I'm

681
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: the star. He had put me surround me with talent.

682
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: But if you look at their regular seasons, the Bucks

683
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: have been the best team, So something is happening come

684
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: playoff time. So I think that points back to the coach.

685
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 3: So I think I think Budenholzer is probably the one

686
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: on the hot seat the most. But then who is

687
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: the guy that can can do what Steve Kerr did

688
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: for the Warriors and get that team to perform. You know,

689
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 3: there's not a Phil Jackson available. Popovich is not going

690
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: to go to that team, so you need someone else

691
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: who can come in and really get the best out

692
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: of everyone. Because I think Budenholzer, to his credit, has

693
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 3: done a fantastic job with basically saying, Yanna, sure the

694
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: best player, go out and go crazy because he's going

695
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: to be the two time MVP. So that's smart coaching there,

696
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: but it's come playoff time. Bud seems to be just

697
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 3: unsure of then how to change things up when things

698
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: get a bit crazy. But the first thing the Bucks

699
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: have to do for me is not fire him, is

700
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: to get rid of bled soap. He's had long enough.

701
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: Now another dud yesterday. He's been a dud in the

702
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: playoffs the entire time he's been there. He is now

703
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: just he's just a dead weight come playoff time. So

704
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: he's got to go first, and then you got to yeah,

705
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: you've got it. You can't rely too much on guys

706
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 3: like Kyle Korver, who as much as I love him,

707
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: he should only be out there for like, we need

708
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: one basket here, and this is what you do. You

709
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: shoot threes. George Hill's another guy coming off the bench.

710
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 3: He was shooting the three. I think he shot the

711
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: highest percentage for threes this season. He was okay, but

712
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: we didn't really see him step up in the playoffs either.

713
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: So I think Middleton survice. Even though he wasn't great yesterday,

714
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: I think he's shown he's been an All Star, potentially

715
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: an All NBA player. He's he does need to step up,

716
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: and he's on the hot seat somewhat as well, But

717
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 3: certainly the biggest thing for the for the Bucks is

718
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: to bring in that that extra talent, that younger talent

719
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: that can compliment Yannis and help him reach that next

720
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: level and go from there. Budenholza, Budenoza might just survive.

721
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: I sort of have a feeling that they might just

722
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: give him one more season, but clearly they need to

723
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: improve that rosterus again, and that that's the pressure on

724
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 3: the Bucks is because they're going to have to do it.

725
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: I guess through free agency, you know, I don't. I

726
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 3: don't know, sort of. I don't think they've got the

727
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: pieces there to make a big trade that can bring

728
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 3: in what.

729
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: The inside of moving Middleton exactly, I'm not sure really

730
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: what you would do, Like what are you really getting

731
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: for again, so Gaspebia Brook, There's some could be some

732
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: interest they need they need what do they need though?

733
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Do they need a point guard? They need a playmaker

734
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: like Brogden?

735
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: They were trade they would trade Brogden for Bledsoe and

736
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: a heartbeat if they the places are not going to

737
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: do that. That was clearly a mistake and that was

738
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 3: clearly you know, financially, we don't want to pay him

739
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: this money.

740
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: But Brogden.

741
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: The one thing about Brogden, even though he wasn't great

742
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: himself in that first round series, he is a steady

743
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: hand at lad in games and he's a reliable player ledso.

744
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: When he plays because there are injuries, yes.

745
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah there was. It was no doubt about it. But

746
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't mind Brogden having the ball in his hands

747
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: when Bledsoe's out there. It's like again, bledso yesterday was

748
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: the perfect opportunity for him to say, right, I'm just

749
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm getting thirty five today. I don't care how, I

750
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: don't care how many shots. I'm just getting thirty five.

751
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: And he went two for nine. I think in the end,

752
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: you know if by now it's like, all right, Bledsoe,

753
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 3: you know this is not your first season, this is

754
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: not your second season. Like you've had long enough here.

755
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: There was talk about Bledsoe being an All Star this year,

756
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 3: but again in the playoffs, the same guy turned up

757
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: and let his team down.

758
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, brain fare Bledsoe. I hear some people in

759
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

760
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, I mean, like, honestly, even in that

761
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: game yesterday, it was a close game.

762
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: It was a four point game.

763
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Bucks need to stop it was like a forty five

764
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: to go gets kicked to the corner Jimmy Butler and

765
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: but and Bloods. He just went for the impossible steal

766
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: exactly and he just barreled over Butler and it was

767
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: a foul. It was like, it was like, what are

768
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: you doing?

769
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: Man?

770
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: Like, I get it, you like the intensity, but that's

771
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: just dumb in that part of the game. That's a

772
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: you're not getting the ball there. I don't know what

773
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: you were thinking you were gonna do there. It was

774
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: just silly, a brain fart there. But uh yeah, they're

775
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: gonna try and maybe move off Bloods. So hey, look

776
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: Chris Paul come in there. Could it help their chances

777
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: to move further on? What do you think? He's an

778
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: old guy. I know that, Yes, I think it helps.

779
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: It would It definitely would help. But it's also a

780
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 3: little bit of shockdown to the calves at the end

781
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: of his career. I think, like, you're only going to

782
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: get You're only going to get a year or two.

783
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: I think Giannis needs someone who he can sort of

784
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: see there with him for the next you know, five

785
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 3: or six years more. So that's myself like.

786
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: The perfect world, but maybe your window your windows.

787
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: We just got done talking about pressures on possibly from

788
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: depending on what contract he signs. Hey, we got win

789
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: now this year, the next year, two year windows.

790
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: Sounded like Steven A. Smith Lee, maybe they need to

791
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 4: get Damian Lillard in there.

792
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, I'm just I'm just saying, like, like

793
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: I understand that the Bucks is like, listen, we've got

794
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: to keep you honest for these next two years, no

795
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: matter what. But you've also got to have someone who

796
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: can potentially be there with him for a while. But again,

797
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: that's like finding a young guy and he's prime, who's available.

798
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's not easy. So, uh, you know,

799
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: decisions made.

800
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, trade Middleton, get rid of him. I mean, he's fine,

801
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 5: he's a fine player. He's got an all star reputation,

802
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 5: and having that reputation, you might be able to get

803
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: something nice for him. Like I would take two years

804
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 5: of Chris Paul. I cannot believe I'm saying this. I

805
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 5: would take two years of Chris Paul rather than Chris Middleton.

806
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 5: If you're talking straight, Chris is give me Paul over

807
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 5: Middleton just because, uh, you know, Chris Paul has been

808
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 5: there before and he's done things a little bit. He's

809
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 5: gone a little further, I feel like than Chris Middleton,

810
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: a little bit more respectable come crunch time. And maybe

811
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 5: Middleton's enough to lure a bigger fish. Chris Paul, you know,

812
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 5: is near the end of his career, no doubt about it.

813
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 5: You're not getting six years of him, but you can

814
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 5: get a good two years of him, and maybe that matters,

815
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 5: pretty honest.

816
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

817
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: Couple other notes just from this game or the fallout

818
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: task one to get your reaction to Bucks forward Marvin

819
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: Williams retiring from the NBA. I guess after what fifteen seasons?

820
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: Is it says he's hanging them up.

821
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: He's done, He's done. You know, he's one of those

822
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 4: guys that sort of floats by then, even the most

823
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 4: devoted NBA fans. You know, Spectrum really because he is

824
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: a number two pick way back when behind Andrew Bogan

825
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 4: in two thousand and five, and he was picked by

826
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 4: the Hawks, picked out in North Carolina where he had

827
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 4: a big shot. Didn't live up to his draft spot,

828
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 4: but at the same time, he was a really good

829
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: player in this league for a really long time. And

830
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 4: he had a good game in his final game and

831
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure that helped him hang it up there. Right

832
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: after the game, as he told Mark Spears, I'm done

833
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 4: fifteen years. I thought he was going to go longer.

834
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 4: It's it's wild to see how young he still is

835
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: because he only played one year in college, and I thought.

836
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: How old is he? Thirty three? Thirty four?

837
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just thirty three. Wow, how that's possible?

838
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 5: Wow?

839
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 4: Forty he is thirty four.

840
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: He's thirty four barrel Oka in June. Still he's way

841
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: older than that.

842
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, he like you know, Trey mentioned Kyle Korver and

843
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: the oldies on the Bucks. I thought he could get

844
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 4: to that age. I thought he could be a twenty

845
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 4: year guy with the way he plays, because he's he's

846
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 4: still you know, taking it in the post and banking

847
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: went home yesterday. Unfortunately, he didn't pick himself at the

848
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 4: two spot. So there's a lot of people who who'll

849
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 4: say he wasn't a number worthy of a number two pick,

850
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: but had a decent career and yeah, just just wasn't

851
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 4: a number two pick in that draft where there were

852
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: some other guys taken behind him who had really good careers.

853
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: All right, is that the Chris Chris Paul draft.

854
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't want to mention that name. Yeah, Chris,

855
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: Chris Paul, Darren Williams.

856
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he ended up spending five years in Charlotte. On Williams,

857
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: I sort of think of him as Atlanta in Utah

858
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: and then like, oh, yeah, he was in Charlotte for

859
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 3: a bit, but five years.

860
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, he spent too much time a lot of Hornets games. Yeah,

861
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 5: way too much time on the Hornets. And that's the thing.

862
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 5: I feel like, Marvin Williams should have been a guy

863
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 5: who was showing up on random playoff teams like the Bucks.

864
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 5: You know, it's probably a little disheartening if you're a

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Speaker 5: Bucks fan to see Marvin Williams out there closing games

866
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Speaker 5: and then when you're eliminated, he immediately retires. That cannot

867
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Speaker 5: be a good sign. But Marvin Williams shouldn't have spent

868
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 5: five years on the Hornets. He should have been, you know,

869
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Speaker 5: show up on the Pacers as a guy off the

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Speaker 5: bench for a couple of seasons or something like that.

871
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Speaker 5: It's tough to put a finger on your favorite Marvin

872
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 5: Williams moments. He should have had more more Marvin.

873
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Speaker 1: Yeah, more, Marvin, make a whole Marvin Room a couple

874
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: other notes. The heat number five seed. They're going to

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00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: the conference finals here. The last team to do that?

876
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: I asked Schumann on Twitter last night. He came through.

877
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: It was the Grizzlies. The twenty twelve thirteen Grizzlies as

878
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: the fifth seed, went to the conference finals that year.

879
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: That was a big part of Patrick Beverly. I believe

880
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: hurting Russell Westbrook unless I have that wrong, but that

881
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: was that year. Also hilarious. Shout out to the TNT

882
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: broadcast for going with the mad close ups on all

883
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: those Bucks players at the end of this game, just begging,

884
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: hoping to see some tears, to see some emotion from somebody.

885
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: They were cutting to everybody. Oh, camera on camera two, ready,

886
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: let's try them.

887
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Speaker 2: It was a great call.

888
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: Didn't really get what they wanted, I think, but I

889
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: did love in this game Jannis shaking his head. I

890
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: felt like we were all Yannis for a second after

891
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: Jake Crowder hit another three pointer and it's like, what is.

892
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 2: Going on with this guy right now?

893
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: And it was perfect, perfect shot of like, be honestly,

894
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: come on, I mean, Jay Crowder's hitting all these threes.

895
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Speaker 2: What are we gonna do.

896
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: This was such an ugly game. Though I'm so happy

897
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: the series is over. It was brutal. I mean, the

898
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: Heat were letting the Bucks hang around in this game.

899
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: They were like giving the ball over at one point

900
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: midway through the fourth quarter on twenty five percent of

901
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: their possessions a turnover, and you know, the Bucks couldn't

902
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: really capitalize. But it was not a pretty game, and

903
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't helped that the entire game, it felt like,

904
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrongly. There were some kids screaming

905
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: in the broadcast throughout this entire thing.

906
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Speaker 3: Once the I didn't really notice.

907
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 5: I mean, god, people were saying they brought back a

908
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: screaming Spurs Lady from a few years ago.

909
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Speaker 1: I mean at the top of a long game, long

910
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: especially at the beginning, leader you could hear kids. Yeah,

911
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean, but I saw some of the people that

912
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: are in the bubble. I think Tim Reynolds was tweeting

913
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: at me. He's like, yeah, I'm like twelve feet away

914
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Speaker 1: from it. If you can hear it on the broadcast,

915
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Speaker 1: put yourself in my shoes right now, it's out loud there.

916
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Speaker 3: I've just kind of gotten used to this sort of

917
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: fake noise so I don't really take pay too much

918
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: attention to it these days, but yeah, it was. It

919
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: was a bad performance. You talk about the fourth quarter

920
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: there in the third quarter, the Bucks went about seven

921
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: minutes without scoring, and Middleton was just flinging up shots.

922
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: He hit those in Game four. But poor man, that

923
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: that was and the and the Heat weren't scoring. That

924
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 3: was the thing that was. The door was open there

925
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: right there for Milwaukee to maybe build an eight to

926
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: ten point cushion and they couldn't do it. And it's

927
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Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, in this end this game

928
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: and in this series, for Milwaukee, please like it was.

929
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Speaker 3: It was just a horrible end. I mean, you know,

930
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: obviously without Yannis, they're a different team, but they shouldn't

931
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Speaker 3: have been that bad really in that in that situation

932
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 3: where they're playing for their playoff live. So yeah, I

933
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: was hoping after that first quarter we were going to

934
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Speaker 3: get all crazy, and I was like, oh my god,

935
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Speaker 3: I would love it if the Bucks win this game.

936
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Speaker 3: This would just be so wild game Game six would

937
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: be incredible then.

938
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Speaker 2: But yeah, Jimmy was just waiting for it.

939
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 3: Man.

940
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: He was pulling another rat out there. He didn't really

941
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 5: he didn't really do much. I didn't think in Games

942
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 5: four or Games five, But in the last two minutes

943
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 5: of Game five, it was a free throw fast. He

944
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 5: was in the lane every single time it was a kickout.

945
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 5: At one point, it took about three minutes of Jimmy

946
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 5: Butler playing hard and being Jimmy Butler to.

947
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: Close out this series.

948
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Speaker 5: But uh, you know, he was great through the three

949
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 5: games and then a little underwhelming, no doubt in games

950
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 5: four and five. Is he saving it for the next

951
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 5: round most likely, but we gotta see it in game one.

952
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 5: We got to see it in Game one or else

953
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: we're gonna crush him, baby.

954
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we won't look too far ahead here.

955
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: We'll save it for another podcast where we start talking

956
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: about the Heat, find out who the heck they're playing.

957
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: Is it gonna be the Celtics after tonight, No, because

958
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: the Raptors are forcing a Game seven. But I'm excited

959
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: to eventually break down that series with you guys, because

960
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear what you think of the Heat

961
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: and their chances versus either a Celtics team or a

962
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: Raptors team in the conference finals, because they've been pretty

963
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: damn dominant here in the bubble. All right, we'll get

964
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Speaker 1: to the Dawnovan News. We'll do a little beach step in.

965
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Speaker 2: But first, football is back this week, and I know nothing.

966
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967
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968
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970
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971
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972
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: so out of touch. I used to know a lot

973
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974
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975
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976
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977
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Speaker 4: Okay, sign up to DraftKings. It's easier gonna beat Skeets.

1024
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: Doesn't know anything about football. You just think you just

1025
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 4: James loftened up a softball for knock it out of

1026
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 4: the park.

1027
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: I know him, I remember him.

1028
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put a Darryl Tally in tasses column for

1029
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 5: that one.

1030
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: Oh, baby, Cornelius Bennett, don't have it don't have line,

1031
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 4: but I'm just gonna say a name can't hold.

1032
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: That was a fantastic Andre Reid of that copy.

1033
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Oklahoma City coach Billy Donovan will not be returning

1034
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: to the Thunder next season. The team said in a

1035
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: statement that both parties mutually agreed to part ways. Billy's

1036
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: contract expired at season's end, and the sides decided the

1037
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: side's decided against pursuing an extension. Here so Donovan took

1038
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: the Thunder guys to the playoffs all five years and okay, see,

1039
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: he was a finalist this here for NBA co the year.

1040
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: I guess he was a winner. He was the co

1041
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: coach of the Year when it came to the coaches vote.

1042
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: But you know, he really got this team to a

1043
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: perform expectation, especially from earlier in the year.

1044
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: What do you think about this?

1045
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: A bit of a surprise, I guess for a lot

1046
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: of people out there, Tray Donovan not gonna be with Okay.

1047
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: See, definitely a surprise because, like you're saying, Skeets, he

1048
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: just won the Coaches Coach.

1049
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: Of the Year.

1050
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 5: We know the other winner of that one was Mike Budenholzer.

1051
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: Not looking good for those two guys right now. But yeah,

1052
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 5: the Thunder overachieved. As we heard numerous times during the broadcast,

1053
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 5: they only had a one point four chance of making

1054
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 5: the playoffs. According to the experts. They did make the playoffs.

1055
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 5: They came down to a James Harden block of a

1056
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 5: low dort three pointer of advancing to the second round.

1057
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 5: So all those things considered, and the fact that Donovan

1058
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 5: seems to be well liked and that this was by

1059
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 5: all accounts and amicable parting, the rebuild is on. You know,

1060
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 5: we saw Chris Paul's basically goodbye video to the Thunder

1061
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: despite the fact that he's still under contract with them,

1062
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 5: and now this with Donovan, you just have to think

1063
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 5: that they are going to really be moving into the

1064
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 5: next phase. They give it a shot with Chris Paul,

1065
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 5: c if they could maybe steal a playoff series, just

1066
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 5: how far they could go. It ended up not being

1067
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 5: the case, But the rebuild has to officially be on

1068
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: at this point.

1069
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would think.

1070
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: So, okay, see has thirteen first round picks and three

1071
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: sets of swap rights across the next seven years.

1072
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 2: Sweats, Yeah, they are feeling this.

1073
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: The good picks though. You know, people say that well,

1074
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: and I saw, I saw. The one that was highlighted

1075
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: was the Nuggets pick this year. That's not a great yeah.

1076
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 3: But it's an asset. Though it's an asset.

1077
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Speaker 2: It's a bite at the Apple tax.

1078
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, lum, Yeah, never know.

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00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: Tyler Herro just went thirteenth, right, look at him performing

1080
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: in the playoffs.

1081
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 4: If there's any team that makes good picks though, it's

1082
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: definitely the OKAC Thunder. If you look at all the

1083
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 4: guys that have come through there, it is phenomenal. So yeah,

1084
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 4: I definitely think that this is a new phase of OKA.

1085
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 4: See and when you look at a headline and you

1086
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 4: read a story that it was amicable between a GM

1087
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: and a coach that they mutually parted ways, it's always skeptical,

1088
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: always as a guy just stepped down, just doesn't want

1089
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: this million dollar position. But this one's believable. For for

1090
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: some reason, that Sam Presty and Billy Donovan talked about

1091
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 4: the future, I'm guessing and that Billy Donovan said, I

1092
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: don't know if I can do a rebuild. And if

1093
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: you remember last year, Sam Presty wrote an op ed.

1094
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 4: He decided to go to the paper The Oklahoma and

1095
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: wrote about how it's so tough as a small market

1096
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: team to be able to just get free agents from

1097
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 4: here and there. So we got to decide. We got

1098
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: to decide to invest in all those draft picks and

1099
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: probably trade Chris Paul while his value was at a

1100
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 4: ridiculously high value. That was probably surprising to even Sam

1101
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 4: Presty when he traded for him last year. So I

1102
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: would assume that was the conversation and Billy Donovan said, yeah,

1103
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 4: not my competee. I don't think I want to do

1104
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: this for another seven years. And now he's a candidate

1105
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 4: for the Philadelphia seventy six ers job. Already. It went

1106
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: from Twitter, it went from Billy Donovan's gone, Billy Donovan

1107
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: is a candidate.

1108
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: Billy Donovan's going to get another job. I have no

1109
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 3: doubt at all about that if he wants one, and

1110
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: maybe he wants to take a little time off after coaching,

1111
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: take the season off. But there are plenty of jobs.

1112
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 3: It might have been one in Milwaukee that he might

1113
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: be interested in as well. So I have no doubt

1114
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: that Billy Donovan is going to be coaching next season.

1115
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: It's just where he wants to go. New Orleans is

1116
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: still in an open a vacancy. It's kind of a rebuild,

1117
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: but you've already got the pieces there in place. So yeah,

1118
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: I think Billy Donovan this season was fantastic for his reputation.

1119
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: He got a lot out of that team. I think

1120
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of where he signs next with

1121
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: the maybe Chicago trow Maybe he's the one of the Bulls.

1122
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: What do you think?

1123
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 5: That was the rumor they want Billy Donovan. But I

1124
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 5: also remember when John Paxson was fired, the Balls were

1125
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 5: very interested in bringing in Sam Presty never did an interview.

1126
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 5: I have a feeling that Billy Donovan might be a

1127
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 5: little bit too rich for their blood. I know what

1128
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 5: you're thinking, isn't Chicago a huge market? Couldn't they afford

1129
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 5: a coach like Billy Donovan? They could, Let's see if

1130
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 5: they do it right. Yeah, I guess there's right now.

1131
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 5: You're right about the Bucks. They could have an opening here,

1132
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 5: But there's four other teams with coaching vacancies right five

1133
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 5: now if you count, okay, see Bulls, Pacers, Pelicans, and

1134
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 5: then the Sixers are the teams that.

1135
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: Need a head coach right now.

1136
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: So Billy Donovan, yeah, could be an available candidate for

1137
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: any of those teams if they're interested. And I do

1138
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: believe I agree with you Tasks, that this is one

1139
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: of those rare ones where it's like, yeah, they just

1140
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: sort of got together and said, all right, we're going

1141
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: to be doing this, We're going this route, and you

1142
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: didn't sign up for that, because let's remember, he signed

1143
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: up to lead a Durant Russell Westbrook.

1144
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: Team to a title.

1145
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: Now he didn't and things fell apart, but that's what

1146
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: his job was. And then the Thunder changed into a

1147
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: completely different team a couple of times, and he did

1148
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: a pretty damn good job, especially this here, you know,

1149
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: just like outperforming again these expectations. So this is just

1150
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: something completely different. And if they're really going to lean

1151
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: into this, the rebuild and really investing in the young guys,

1152
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: then yeah, he's just probably not down for it, and

1153
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: he wants something different. I'm sure he wants to compete

1154
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: for a title. So maybe he sees a Sixers team,

1155
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: maybe a Bulls team.

1156
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: A man all right, Yes, I hope that's the case.

1157
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, son, So I believe I do believe that

1158
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: this was, you know, a mutual parting of ways, and

1159
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: I know, we have some fun with what happened with

1160
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: them in their meeting a little bit later, probably for

1161
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: tweet of the night.

1162
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Speaker 5: Dude, Okay, Billy Donovan's a good coach, Does anybody really

1163
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: have a fa for it? Because I'm like, he showed

1164
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 5: up the last Kevin Durant season in Oka See, which

1165
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 5: now is pretty weird to think that they brought in

1166
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 5: a first time NBA head coach trying to save Kevin

1167
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 5: Durant staying in Oka See. They obviously blew a three

1168
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 5: to one lead, that's usually a huge mark against you

1169
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 5: in the NBA. And then after that it was The

1170
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 5: Westbrook Show that was a Westbrook team and the question

1171
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 5: was always how can they be better than the sum

1172
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 5: of their parts? And then this year it was Chris

1173
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 5: Paul's team. I don't know that you necessarily think Billy

1174
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 5: Donovan put his imprint on any of those teams, except

1175
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 5: for to say point guards are certainly empowered in a

1176
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 5: Billy Donovan system.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I agree one hundred percent with that trait. I'm

1178
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: not really sure if he's all that good at coach.

1179
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: He just seems like an average sort of coach to me,

1180
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: which isn't at times a bad idea. If you have

1181
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: the right players, like you said, if you if you've

1182
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: got if you've got a player, coach and Chris Paul,

1183
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: then you're sort of laughing.

1184
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. He he won two championships with Florida, didn'ty, Is

1185
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 3: that right? That's where he came from. So and those

1186
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: teams were I guess Noah, Holford and uh and Bruce.

1187
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 3: So he didn't have a He didn't really have a

1188
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: solid point out in the college system at least did he?

1189
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: Is that right? He probably knows better than me.

1190
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about you don't like cook and

1191
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 5: Teddy du pey. I mean, uh, but he did have,

1192
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 5: you know, three lottery picks. Yeah, you should win a

1193
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 5: championship if you have three lottery picks.

1194
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, But to do twice is still pretty tough, no doubt.

1195
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: No doubt. But I'll give the credit to Horford and Noah.

1196
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1197
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think any dupay and Don Babe might have

1198
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: to call the show that.

1199
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Speaker 3: I just I think I think overall this season again,

1200
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: coming off this season, I think, Okay, yeah, he's had

1201
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: a he had a pretty good season this year. How

1202
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 3: much of that was Chris Paul A lot? But Again,

1203
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: it always comes down to the talent of the players

1204
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: you have around you. So you know, if he goes

1205
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: to a situation where the talent is already there, like Philadelphia,

1206
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 3: if he can get something out of that, then I

1207
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 3: think that would really enhance his coaching credentials. But if

1208
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 3: he goes there and it's the same sort of thing

1209
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: with Philadelphia, who knows, you know, But I like say,

1210
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: I think he's he basically can pick which job he

1211
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: wants for the ones that he's going to get interest from. Anyway,

1212
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: we will see, we'll see.

1213
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's get ready for today's Beach step In

1214
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: podcast that's coming up a little bit later by doing

1215
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: doing a few cues right now, let's at the beach.

1216
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'll try and.

1217
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: Make these somewhat quick here. But first one, hey, guys,

1218
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: got a last minute question. Any objections with the MB

1219
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty All defensive teams that were announced last night

1220
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: or did the global panel of one hundred sports writers

1221
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: and broadcasters get it right. That's from Sean All Defensive

1222
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: first Team, Jiannis ad Ben Simmons, Gobert and Marcus Smart

1223
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: All Defensive second Team, Kawhi Brook Lopez bam, Patrick Beverly

1224
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: and Eric Bledsoe tass objections to.

1225
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 4: That, Sean, I do think the global panel of one

1226
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: hundred sports writers and broadcasters did a decent job. I

1227
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 4: think the backcourt for the second team, Patrick Beverley and

1228
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: Eric Bledsoe get him out of it. I think that

1229
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 4: Drew Holliday is always a guy that is a little

1230
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 4: disrespected when it comes to his defense. I think he's

1231
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: one of the few guys that can play one on

1232
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: one and play it really, really great. He wasn't on

1233
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 4: a great defense with the Pelicans this year, but I

1234
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 4: think he belongs there over a guy like Eric Bledsoe.

1235
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 4: And I'm taking Kyle Lowry over Patrick Beverly. I think

1236
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 4: you need a representative of the second best defense in

1237
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: the league with the Toronto Raptors, who don't have any

1238
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: anybody else on these two teams. Am I playing the

1239
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: homework card? I don't think so. I think Kyle Lowry

1240
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: and his thirty six minutes per game is a lot

1241
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: more valuable than Patrick Beverly in his twenty six minutes

1242
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 4: per game. Should I be saying that? Should I just

1243
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 4: be giving so much weight to a guy playing minutes? Yeah?

1244
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: I think it matters. I think that matters that Kyle

1245
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 4: Lowry played a seven hundred and fifty more minutes than

1246
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 4: mister Beverly, who wasn't on the floor as much and

1247
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 4: can be a guy who gives a lot of fouls

1248
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: in his time because he doesn't play as heavy minutes.

1249
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: I would sub out those two guys. But Sean, thanks

1250
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 4: so much for that last second question.

1251
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait to get that in there.

1252
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a lot of clippers on these teams,

1253
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: had a lot of bucks on these teams. What do

1254
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: you think, Lee? Do you agree with what tasks saying there?

1255
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: Would you switch anything else up?

1256
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 3: Certainly I'd get Drew Holliday, You and I have a

1257
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 3: bled sie and then Patrick Beverly and Kyle Lowry.

1258
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 4: Mean.

1259
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: Patrick Bevly's is known for his defense, but I think

1260
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: that a lot of that is how much attention he

1261
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 3: brings to himself. You know, where is Kyle Lowry. He

1262
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: likes to get that big boost in the way and

1263
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: take as many chutes as he can. That should be overlooked.

1264
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: That's that's a big part of the defense.

1265
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: You can't overlook that boose. No, you can look at

1266
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: boost see it.

1267
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 3: No, I mean PJ Tucker, I think is certainly these

1268
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: last few weeks, people have looked at PJ. Tucker said, man,

1269
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 3: this guy is a great defensive player, but on the

1270
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: Rockets it probably gets not as noticed as much. So

1271
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: but then again, who you're gonna take out certainly not

1272
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 3: Kawhi Brook Lopez was fantastic and Bam was also fantastic,

1273
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure tougher who Yeah, who PJ gets

1274
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: in over those guys. But yeah, Bledsoe, no thanks, Uh,

1275
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 3: definitely Drew Holiday for that. But I'm I'm just anti

1276
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: Bledsoe right now.

1277
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 5: I just it's tough to see three bucks on the

1278
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 5: teams as they're being eliminated. My big, my big one,

1279
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 5: just like you guys as Lowry over Beverly. You know,

1280
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 5: Beverly is a great one on one defender and he

1281
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 5: gets a lot of highlight clips because he's always gonna

1282
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 5: be up in your face. But Kyle Lowry is just

1283
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 5: a better defender, and the Raptors are a better defensive team.

1284
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 2: So that would be my one change.

1285
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 5: The other thing, I like to see four big guys

1286
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 5: on the All defensive first team.

1287
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1288
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 5: Ben Simmons is a guard, but he's also six foot ten,

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Speaker 5: markus smart. You can even know he's a big guy.

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00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 5: He guards fives a lot. But if you want to

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00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 5: have a good defense, you're gonna need some tall guys.

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Speaker 1: Eventually, you said you brought up Drew Holliday task because

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00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of the NBA players come in

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Speaker 1: to his defense. I guess on Twitter last night pointing

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00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: out like what the disrespect? I think JJ Reddick maybe

1296
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: got it started, and Damian Liller retweeted that. You know,

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00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: we've had debates before of like who should vote on

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00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: these awards? You know, should it be this global panel

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00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: of one hundred sports writers and broadcasters or should it

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00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: be the players. I thought about it last night when

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Speaker 1: I was seeing those tweets go around, I was like,

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00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: I would actually be okay with the players voting on

1303
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: all defensive teams because they are the ones playing these guys,

1304
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: and they know who are the lockdown guys and who's

1305
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: a nightmare that you see on the calendar. You're like, God, damn,

1306
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: yet play this guy to night, Like is this gonna

1307
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: be a long night? I would be all right with it.

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00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the panel got it wrong here,

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Speaker 1: I'm with your task for the most part day they

1310
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: knocked it out of the park. I mean, it's not

1311
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: that hard to do. You sort of know who the

1312
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: best defensive guys in the league are if you watch

1313
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: the games. But sort of makes some sense that a

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: guy like Damian Leonard or whoever is like, yeah, he's

1315
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: the toughest guard to go against him, and why is

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00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: he not in the mix here?

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00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: Any opinions on that from you guys.

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00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be angry about it, but I think you

1319
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 4: would get a lot of reputation awards or a reputation

1320
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 4: selections like the coaches do at All Star weekend and say, oh,

1321
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 4: this guy, you know, we have to game plan against him.

1322
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 4: But if JJ Redick is playing against you know, Kyle

1323
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 4: Lowry two or three times a year, maybe Kyle Lowry

1324
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 4: doesn't even play and he just had a real tough

1325
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 4: game against Kyle lower he's going to say, oh, yeah,

1326
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 4: it's tough. If we were going to do it right,

1327
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 4: I think you would do what they do in the

1328
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: All Star Game now and have media coaches and not fans.

1329
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 4: Media coaches and players vote unlike the All Star Game,

1330
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 4: but you'd have a it probably separated, but that's not

1331
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 4: as interesting. It's not as fun to talk about it.

1332
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 4: You can't poke the blame at somebody, like on these

1333
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 4: sports panels that gave James Harden a first place All

1334
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: Defensive vote. Get out of it here, Wow.

1335
00:57:59,440 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: That was me.

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 5: How dare you say that the best defense is a

1337
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 5: good offense if.

1338
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: You like shoulder defense? James, Yes, so I hear what

1339
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: you're saying. But are they gonna stick with the times? Actually,

1340
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: when I saw JJ Redick, I saw Matt Barnes, I

1341
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 4: saw these videos of players coming to Drew Holiday's defense,

1342
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 4: I thought, oh, man, maybe I'm not making a good

1343
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 4: pick here picking Drew Holliday as a guy because I've

1344
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 4: always been a fan Drew Holiday. But I think the

1345
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: players are they know, like you said, skates, they know

1346
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 4: who the toughest defenders are. But I think it sort

1347
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: of takes a little time to catch up with with

1348
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 4: the times. Drew Holliday has been underrated now for like

1349
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 4: five years running. We've been talking about it, so I

1350
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 4: was even a little hesitant because their defense was the poops.

1351
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, playing the playoffs, man, he's a lockdown.

1352
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that part is tough though, Like when you're a

1353
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: good defender, but your team sort of is average or

1354
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: below average defensively. It's I think that's difficult for some

1355
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: of the people that actually have the votes to say, Okay,

1356
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: let's give him a vote. It's just tough to like

1357
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: separate the two. It honestly is. Though you should be

1358
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: able to do it if you want to give him

1359
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: the vote. And he's obviously a great defender, and he

1360
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 1: proved it, like you said at the playoffs in times.

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00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: All right, one more here saw this at my local

1362
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: sport check today. I think we got the photo here.

1363
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: Have you seen this type of jersey ever before? Maybe

1364
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: Pascal needs to play with that lowry energy. Who are

1365
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: two other NBA players you would like to combine?

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00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 2: And why?

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00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: This is from at Addiel Hooksha two by way of Twitter.

1368
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: Now we're showing everybody here on YouTube a Raptor's jersey

1369
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Speaker 1: number forty three, but it says Lowry. So we've got

1370
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: a Siakam Lowry like mash up here. This is like

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Speaker 1: a girl Talk jersey, remember girl Talk.

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Speaker 2: The Animals? Baby?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw him live. I had fun, I almost

1374
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: got on stage. So yeah, that's a fun question. Though,

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Speaker 1: two other NBA players you'd like to combine and why Trey,

1376
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: what do you got?

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Speaker 2: Who are we going a girl talk here? What a

1378
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 2: great question? What a reference? I'll love it might turn

1379
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: that on today. Is it still hold up? I don't know.

1380
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: That'd be a great throwback.

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01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 5: But a couple of guys, a couple of my favorites

1382
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 5: that I actually think would be a perfect mix together.

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 5: If you could somehow combine James Harden and Jimmy Butler,

1384
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 5: you would have the perfect two guard. You would have

1385
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 5: a player better than Kawhi Leonard because if you have

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 5: James Harden's offensive skills with Jimmy Butler's drive to be

1387
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 5: the best and work hard and give it defensively, you

1388
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 5: would have an incredible two guard. I mean, you're having

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01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 5: a guy who's, you know, an all defense level defender

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01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 5: who's averaging thirty five points per game. That's basically the

1391
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan template right there. And the best part about

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01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 5: it is the names work perfectly. You could either go

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01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 5: with James Butler, which is funny because as we all know,

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 5: he said, my name is literally Jimmy. When Brett Boon

1395
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 5: called him James, He's like, I'm not James. But now

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01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 5: he could be James and on the flip side, I

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01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 5: don't even want to say it, but you could call

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 5: him Jimmy Harden.

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Speaker 2: Straight up, Jimmy Harden.

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01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: I was gonna say your leans right into our manscape

1401
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: if we want to, But I sort of want to

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01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: hear some other answers here. That's fantastic, James Butler. I

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01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: love it, Jimmy Harden. That's a good combo. Can any

1404
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: of you tassorly beat that?

1405
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: Well? I'm going to try to combine a couple outed Utah.

1406
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 3: I think turn these two into one player. It's Joe Gobert,

1407
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: because I think then you get the defense of Rudy Gobert,

1408
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 3: but then you also have a seven to two guy

1409
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: coming down. Just shooting those slow release three pointers can

1410
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: be a bit of a facilitator on offense. I think

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01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 3: I think he's a walking MVP if you can have

1412
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: all that, because you couldn't stop that shot. You could

1413
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: go inside any Tommy once and then he's got the defense.

1414
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, give me the French Aussy connection.

1415
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 2: There, Joe Gobert be task.

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01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: You want to merge the two Bogdanovich's together, You want

1417
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: to get really crazy.

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01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 4: Well, similarly, I want to merge the two Morrises, the

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01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: more Markith and Marcus, the twins, Why the heck not,

1420
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 4: you'd have a super player. They would be a me

1421
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 4: and they're just going to cancel each other out next

1422
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: series when the Clippers face the Lakers, and that way

1423
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: no one will be confused by who's playing. Actually, moda

1424
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 4: Kuille or colleague at the Athletic brought this up that

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01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 4: Marcus Morris, who's balling for the Clippers, this would be

1426
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 4: the absolute perfect time to just sub him in for

1427
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 4: the Lakers. No one would know, and he would provide

1428
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 4: a lot more for Marquef than Markuif is providing, and

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01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: he would be their third best player on right immediately.

1430
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 4: I mean, he has been playing really, really well. It's

1431
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 4: going to be weird, and I'm not I would look

1432
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 4: forward to it because then I can't couldn't confuse the two.

1433
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 4: It's tough. It is tough to n one. Yeah, Marcus

1434
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 4: is more more the baller. But let's shout out sports check.

1435
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 4: Love love that check on those black jerseys. He used

1436
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 4: to wear it every day of my life. Never wash

1437
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 4: it in between shifts. I washed it. Shout out to

1438
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 4: sports check and also on the sweat check. Yeah, those

1439
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 4: polyesters they evaporated pretty well, so they didn't smell that bad. Also, yeah,

1440
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 4: girl talk great, but just listen to your boy Brian.

1441
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 4: I mean he's He's a.

1442
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: Million songs in like five minutes of them. It's amazing.

1443
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 2: He is the best. Yeah, great, Jersey, thanks for sharing

1444
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: that on Twitter. Very very funny. I mean I would

1445
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 2: buy a Lowry siakam mash up Jersey.

1446
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: Sure, that's sort of unique. It's like why not great answers. Yeah,

1447
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: just back to your Morris comment there, your mashup test.

1448
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: I was on the Buckets podcast with our friend of

1449
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: Mere Bluemenfeld his podcast yesterday and we talked about that.

1450
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: We talked about this is the perfect location for the

1451
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: Morris twins, especially if they were to meet in the

1452
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 1: next round Clippers Lakers, for them to do the twin swap,

1453
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: Like they could just mess around and like be playing,

1454
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, one night for the Lakers one of them,

1455
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: and then they could just switch and play for the Clippers.

1456
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: Like they could totally get away with this if they

1457
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: really want to. They used to do this, I guess

1458
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: for like math tests and stuff like that, Like why

1459
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: couldn't it happen there, Like, I don't thing, there's no

1460
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: way us the viewer would know what's happening. Maybe the

1461
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: guys around them would know, but I don't know even

1462
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: how different their personalities are there, so maybe it's something

1463
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: they'll try.

1464
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 2: Got to keep our eye on it. Let's keep her

1465
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 2: eye on it.

1466
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: You want to tell your grandkids a story? How about

1467
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 4: that time in the bubble where we switch teams.

1468
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 2: That's a damn good story.

1469
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and like yeah, they're flipping coins to see

1470
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: who's playing for like the Lakers that night, or the Clippers,

1471
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: whatever way, whatever team is up, Like who's gonna like

1472
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: like if they got to a game seven, it's like,

1473
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean, who's going to go on to the title

1474
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: all right? Because one of them got to leave the

1475
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: bubble at that point, it's like, oh.

1476
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: Is it Marquis for Marcus? Who knows? Man? Really?

1477
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: How do you feel about twins? Identical twins? They creep

1478
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: you out late, some people are creeped out, But I

1479
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: went to school with it twins and twins. I bet

1480
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: we can tell them a pot So I went really

1481
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: like the Mars twins.

1482
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what their names? What were their names?

1483
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 4: Well?

1484
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: No, no, don't worry about that.

1485
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: I'll tell you.

1486
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one funny twins story, though, when what

1487
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: another names? I don't worry because they might be listening.

1488
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: That's the first names you can make up a name?

1489
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 3: Then, okay, Samantha and Jane, that'll do, Father and Sherry

1490
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: in my school.

1491
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: I'll tell you Eric, he's got some twins.

1492
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 3: When Sebastian was about eighteen months old, We're in a

1493
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,479
Speaker 3: playground one day and there was a little kid there playing.

1494
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: He was running around and they were sort of just

1495
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: playing with each other. But he was one of a twin.

1496
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 3: So a few minutes later, the second one came over

1497
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: dressed exactly the same, looked exactly the same. Sebastian was

1498
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: just kind of like, what the hell is going? It

1499
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 3: was like him back to the future where old Biffs's

1500
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 3: young Marty and and other Marty as well, and he's

1501
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: real confused.

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01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: Exactly hess I love it all right, Well, we got

1503
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: to get to tweet the night still.

1504
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: We'll get your suffering to these games.

1505
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: But first a word from our sponsors.

1506
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Speaker 3: Some people saw during Game five of the Raptor Celtics series,

1507
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 3: I was rocking a pretty sweet tonytail while I was

1508
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 3: standing with Skeets, I prompted a comment from our friend

1509
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: and former colleague, Matt, who said it was a very

1510
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 3: casual travalter in pulp fiction.

1511
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: That's quite fun of it.

1512
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Anyway, got me thinking about Matt and how

1513
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 6: proud he always is and was of his hairdo, and

1514
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 6: I was wondering if any of our manscaped ads had

1515
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 6: convinced him to buy any of the products and keep

1516
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 6: the rest of his hair as well groomed.

1517
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: Because he's a modern man. He likes to take care

1518
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 2: of himself.

1519
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 3: You know, in this quarantine situation, he's still getting his

1520
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 3: workouts in and so if he's listening, and we know

1521
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: that he is, he always likes to listen. He sent

1522
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 3: us a nasty little message in the WhatsApp the other

1523
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 3: day when he thought we were making fun of him.

1524
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 3: But I think Matt would get pretty good use out

1525
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 3: of the lawnmower three point zero. I think it'd be

1526
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 3: perfect for him.

1527
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: I think he would kill the battery. He's got a

1528
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: minster a pit.

1529
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 3: But he wouldn't just want the law because he wouldn't

1530
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: want to do half a job. He'd like it done

1531
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: properly or not at all and the Perfect Package three

1532
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: point zero comes with a new and improved lawn mower, waterproof,

1533
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 3: cordless body trimmer, performance box of briefs and we know

1534
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,479
Speaker 3: Matt's performs at a high level, and a travel bag

1535
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: which is perfect if he has any overnight stay Sam.

1536
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's one or two of those on the calendar,

1537
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 3: and there has been. The perfect package three point I

1538
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 3: also comes with a crop preserver and crop reviver. He's

1539
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 3: getting on a little bit. He's nearly forty is he

1540
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 3: forty eight?

1541
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: Man?

1542
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: It's got a year.

1543
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: A year's so easy. He's getting up there. He's getting

1544
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 3: close to that. And also, I think Matt would like

1545
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 3: to experiments. I think he would like to experiment with

1546
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: the crop reviver. That's spray on tona. Yeah, it's made

1547
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: with that alo and witch hal extracts. Oh my god,

1548
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 3: doesn't that.

1549
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 2: Mean I put it in a smoothie?

1550
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 4: Hey?

1551
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 3: We saw him drink that Lin shake which had all

1552
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 3: sorts of crazy stuff and it maybe he'd try something different.

1553
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: He likes to experiment. I would recommend that anyway, Matt.

1554
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: You can get twenty percent off free shipping with the

1555
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 3: code the Apple twenty at Manscape dot com. That's right,

1556
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 3: twenty percent off and free shipping with the code the

1557
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 3: Athletic twenty at manscape dot com. When that off with

1558
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 3: free shipping at manscape dot com and use code the

1559
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 3: Athletic twenty. Take your grooming game to the next level

1560
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 3: and tell him your boys sent you over there, Matt,

1561
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: and let us know how it goes, because then maybe

1562
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: we can get another adreed out of you for this.

1563
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 3: That'd be oh wow, that.

1564
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: Would be nice.

1565
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: You're right, like, get them the products, let him use it,

1566
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: and then you can rate one of our adrees for Minskip.

1567
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 2: Okay, great stuff. We know he's listing.

1568
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: There's the Pony Times, the Travolta Casual Travolta. Wow, that

1569
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: is a spot on from Maddie. This is the reason

1570
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: why they're after his last skame fight.

1571
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 3: Come on, man, come on, I'm trying. I'm trying to

1572
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: mix things up. I'm like Nick Nurse. I like to

1573
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 3: experiment with things. What am I going to do for

1574
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: game six?

1575
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 2: You gotta bread that tiny little ponytail?

1576
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to get Rocksander to

1577
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 3: do that. I'm not sure she'd be up for braiding it.

1578
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 3: She wasn't thrilled about me putting into a ponytail. No,

1579
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 3: she was just like, what are you doing this for?

1580
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what for the gram?

1581
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: For the cram? All right, let's get to tweet.

1582
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 4: Of the night, tweet over night wow Twitter.

1583
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: Well, Lely, I sort of teased it when we were

1584
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: talking about Billy Donovan because you've got a great one here.

1585
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1586
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: So Billy Donovan, obviously that situation there with Oklahoma City

1587
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: ended last night. And Royce Young, of course, the Oka

1588
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 3: See Beat writer, he was connected to what was happening,

1589
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 3: and he tweeted out this and he said, having an

1590
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 3: idea of the direction it was probably headed. Presty says

1591
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 3: he brought a cooler of beer to his office during

1592
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 3: his meeting with Donovan and they spent some of the

1593
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 3: time reminiscing on memories of the last five years. So yeah,

1594
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 3: I think what task was sort of alluding to there

1595
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 3: as well, Like it was amicable and they both kind

1596
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: of knew it was coming to an end and they decided,

1597
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 3: you know what, let's just pop few beers and talk

1598
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:01,879
Speaker 3: about the old.

1599
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: Times and what's better than this.

1600
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 3: So it also brings up the question Sam Presty.

1601
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 2: What sort of what sort of beers he.

1602
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 3: Bring him in there? Billy Donovant local, I p a

1603
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 3: for sure, you think so? Yeah, I don't. I don't

1604
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 3: think he's bringing in Budweiser. He's not.

1605
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: It's like, well, I saw someone tweeted like replied to

1606
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: Royce Young and said, what did anybody ask what type

1607
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: of beer they were drinking? And the answer was cheap beer?

1608
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: So it could have been, but he could have been.

1609
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 3: I think I think Sam's got a little bit more

1610
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 3: class though. I think he's uh, he's bringing in something

1611
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 3: pretty nice.

1612
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 2: Wears classes, he must drink a very fine beer.

1613
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 3: He does wear Elton John glasses though, doesn't he Sam Presty.

1614
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 4: He does?

1615
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: He does.

1616
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 2: They suited him.

1617
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 5: Though, said well, it'll be better if he worked for

1618
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 5: Houston and he could be a rocketsman.

1619
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: How many beers do you think we're in the cooler?

1620
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: Is it just a classic six pack?

1621
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 3: I think I think he brings in a dozen, but

1622
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 3: they don't plan on it. Yeah, but I don't think

1623
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: they plan on going through them unless unless I decide

1624
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 3: to just you know what the hell, let's just really ruins.

1625
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think Billy Donovan or do you think

1626
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: Sam Presty, I guess is a better way to put it.

1627
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: Could have got Billy Donovan so drunk that he could

1628
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 1: have convinced him to just continue to keep going.

1629
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 3: That's signed the contract.

1630
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, slick move.

1631
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: Maybe they both wanted to part ways. Okay, anything to

1632
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 1: add to that task. That great story there.

1633
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 4: Now, No, Billy don't even had to drive. I mean

1634
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 4: a dozen a lot.

1635
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: I'm just saying they wouldn't have necessarily got through them,

1636
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 3: just depending on how the conversation's going. You know, how

1637
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: many how many fun times they're talking about? How long

1638
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 3: about you?

1639
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: Five years?

1640
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? How many fun times do you think you can

1641
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 4: have in five years? That's you know about seventeen hundred days,

1642
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 4: eighteen hundred days. How many fun times can you have

1643
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 4: in eighteen hundred days together? At least ten?

1644
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: Wow?

1645
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 4: So that's a beer per Yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe

1646
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 4: they had a dozen beers in there.

1647
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: So they did this not in the bubble like they

1648
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: did this like when he left obviously, and this happened

1649
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: in in Oklahoma City. It's always I think, Yeah, I guess, yeah,

1650
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know if Sam Presty was there.

1651
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: I saw him in the bubble. Yeah, they would have

1652
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 3: left because Chris Bowl had that video the other day

1653
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 3: when he was so Yeah, they wouldn't be hanging around

1654
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 3: for sure.

1655
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: So just go.

1656
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: You just had to go back to the office, clean

1657
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 2: up his stuff.

1658
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and here comes Sam door open door policy comes

1659
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 1: on in.

1660
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got what he's carry's carrying it. Yeah, he's

1661
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: carrying like a like that.

1662
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 3: That's how you carry a slab in the in Australia.

1663
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 3: Just come in with it on shot and just slap

1664
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: it down on the table.

1665
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, slab.

1666
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: I always did like that that. You called it that

1667
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: in Australia, case a case in Canada, twenty four beers

1668
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: or whatever. All right, great story, great tween of the

1669
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: night task, get us ready for today's games. Here, we're

1670
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: running a little long because we got another podcast to record.

1671
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: So what we got here raptors trying to stay alive.

1672
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 2: I guess it's the big story.

1673
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he s BN doubleheader starting with that game against

1674
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: the Celtics six thirty Eastern, the longest reign of a

1675
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 4: single season champion could come to an end. Yeah, they

1676
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 4: get that extra time here because we're in September. The

1677
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 4: longest run he got include all these records here for

1678
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 4: the Toronto Raptors, cuz I don't know if they're going

1679
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 4: back to back. Boys, they're down three to two here.

1680
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 4: Sergebaka questionable at last check with an ankle injury as well.

1681
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in a boot.

1682
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 4: He was booting it, but you never know, you never know.

1683
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 4: That's protocol. You're leaving the arena, you gotta put a

1684
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 4: boot on. True.

1685
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: True.

1686
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 4: So we did see Giannis leave with the boot on,

1687
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 4: obviously not a great sign. He didn't play in game

1688
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 4: five there, but he was warming up. So we'll see

1689
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 4: what Surge can do. I've got not a lot of

1690
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 4: faith right now, just the way things ended there. But

1691
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 4: what do you guys think Leo's start with you.

1692
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 3: It's going to seven?

1693
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: Do I really believe that?

1694
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 3: No? But I'm hoping, so let's go. I just think

1695
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: the Celtics really did hammer the Raptors in game six

1696
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 3: and they want to end it. They don't want it

1697
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 3: to go to seven, So I think the Celtics win.

1698
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 3: But I'm pulling for the Raptors, of course, I am.

1699
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 3: Who cares, why not? I'm getting the pony tail at tonight.

1700
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: I'm buddy rapt tail plays. Just do your slick look.

1701
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: Go back to Michael Douglass. I don't want.

1702
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 4: Casual Michael Dames.

1703
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: The Raptors are winning this obviously, this is going to seven,

1704
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: just like we told you right from the get go.

1705
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: You know, I'd like to see what Kyle Lower we

1706
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: get right from the jump again. Will it be like

1707
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: Games three and four? But I assume Marcus Smart is

1708
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: going to be on him again like Game five, and

1709
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: that obviously, uh, you know, limits him a little bit more.

1710
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 1: Just gonna need some of these guys to hit some

1711
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: shots on the wraps van Vliet. We could really use

1712
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: the magical.

1713
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 2: Van Vleet game. Let's be honest. He has a he's had.

1714
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 2: He's been fine. I know there's a when he's driving.

1715
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: He's actually finishing most for the most part inside, but

1716
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: his three ball, his moonshot's not dropping right now. But

1717
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: I believe in Freddy, and I believe we do get

1718
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: a Game seven here in this series. I think it'll

1719
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: be a close one. Though I said that about Game five.

1720
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: I said, hey, hey, here's one thing you can guarantee

1721
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: there will be no blowouts in this series. I was

1722
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: wrong about that, But give me a Raptors win be

1723
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: standing regardless hashtags stand with skeets. If you're a real

1724
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: Raptors fan, you still believe can overcome this adversity to

1725
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: give us a Game seven that would happen on Friday night,

1726
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: So Raps in a win Trey.

1727
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 4: You're a Celtics man to start the series, would you

1728
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 4: dare say that this is going to seven games?

1729
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: This series was destined to go seven games. We going

1730
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: to games.

1731
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 5: The barn yonni is already ready won a championship for

1732
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 5: the Raptors last season. If they can't win a game

1733
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 5: six with the barn Yanni, I'm no help to them

1734
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 5: at all.

1735
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: It's gotta be Lowry and Van Vliet. If Siakam shows up,

1736
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: that's awesome.

1737
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 5: If Siakam has his first really good game of the playoff,

1738
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 5: that would be huge for the Raptors. But to me,

1739
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 5: it's gonna come down to Lowry and Van Vliet. One

1740
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 5: of them's got to out play Kemba Walker, and most

1741
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 5: likely that's gonna be Kyle Lowry.

1742
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 2: So let's see it. The Raptors are the best.

1743
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 5: It feels like when they have their backs against the

1744
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 5: wall and their season is almost over.

1745
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: So the backs are very much against the wall.

1746
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 1: The backs are so much against the wall. You can't

1747
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: even see the Barnionnie.

1748
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: Jersey, That's right, you can't even see the ponisail.

1749
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 4: What do you got to You could be a Kyle

1750
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 4: Lowry number seven. Just pretend I'm in the same boat

1751
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 4: that I said it with your skeets the other night,

1752
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 4: that we're only gonna get close games in this series.

1753
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 4: So I'm just gonna double down. All I know is

1754
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: that it's gonna be a close game. No one is

1755
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: going to blow out the other team. I got no

1756
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 4: idea what's going to happen down the wire to the

1757
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 4: coming down to the wire. So looking forward to that baby.

1758
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 4: Before the nine o'clock Eastern game Clippers Denver, who the

1759
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 4: heck knows what we're gonna get in this game? The

1760
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 4: Clippers are up to one. I don't know if anybody

1761
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 4: even wants to make a prediction for this one, because really,

1762
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 4: with these two teams, I don't know. All I'll say

1763
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 4: for me is that I think we'll get a better

1764
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 4: Jamal Murray game. I think if you are gonna win,

1765
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 4: you need your best player to play somewhat like your

1766
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 4: best player. He's gone twelve twenty seven fourteen loss win

1767
01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 4: loss in this series. So I think we're gonna get

1768
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 4: back to a good Jamal Murray which could mean the

1769
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 4: Nuggets win, and hey, the Clippers do take quarters off,

1770
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 4: so why not Let's say the Nuggets are gonna win

1771
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 4: this game. Why the heck not, I'll take them.

1772
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 1: It would for a more exciting Thursday podcast here and

1773
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: no dunks if the Nuggets win. I mean, this is

1774
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: what I'm worried about. Celtics win. It's not gonna happen.

1775
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: But if the Celtics win and the Nuggets or the

1776
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: Clippers win, it's like tomorrow show. I guess we could

1777
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: start looking ahead to the Eastern Conference Finals in that situation,

1778
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: but otherwise it'd be a bit of a dud if

1779
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: the Clippers go up three one. So I'm with you

1780
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: to as I'm almost rooting for the Nuggets and a

1781
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: huge Jamal Murray game to give us a bit more

1782
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: juice to that series.

1783
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 2: That'd be nice.

1784
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: But you're right, who knows what Clippers team shows up.

1785
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they obviously can beat them, it's just whether

1786
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: or not they're like really locked in from the get go.

1787
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 4: What about you, Lee?

1788
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: Are you.

1789
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 3: I am rooting as much as I can these days,

1790
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: full of the Denver Nuggets. So yes, I'll be rooting

1791
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 3: for them tonight. And yeah, on the side, it's great

1792
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: when you're in neutral because you just want to see

1793
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 3: a great game and a great series. So yeah, if

1794
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 3: Denver wins tonight, the series is on. If they lose,

1795
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of when this clip is closed

1796
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 3: it out. So give me the Nuggets, Trey, what do

1797
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 3: you think.

1798
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1799
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 5: I think that we're going to get a good game,

1800
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 5: and that's all that really mattered. That's all that's all

1801
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 5: that matters is that everybody has fun out there. Give

1802
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:20,839
Speaker 5: me the Clippers.

1803
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1804
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 5: The Nuggets are inconsistent, just like the Clippers are, but

1805
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 5: the Clippers tend to win. As Gigi three No points out,

1806
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 5: the Clippers win when the Lakers win. So we saw

1807
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 5: the Lakers win last night, maybe the Clippers do it

1808
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 5: as well. You got Patrick Beverley, he's going to be

1809
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 5: fired up proven people right saying, yeah, I should have

1810
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 5: been on the first team, not even on the second team.

1811
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 5: You guys wanted to leave me off completely in your face,

1812
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 5: and then they'll probably get kicked out of the game.

1813
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,680
Speaker 1: Before we go, Lee, I just wanted to circle back

1814
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,799
Speaker 1: to something because I had it wrong. I said Auckland

1815
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: instead of Adelaide. Was that Adelaide strip club underground? In

1816
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: Adelaide they have a lot of like underground like mining

1817
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: things like for opals and stuff. Yeah, that Adelaide once

1818
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: upon it?

1819
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, my crazy Yeah, I think you were in Cooper

1820
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 3: Pete probably that's where they do it. I was, yeah, yeah,

1821
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 3: I don't think this strip club was underground. I mean

1822
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 3: it's a long time ago. It was a few boozy

1823
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 3: nights there or about fifteen years ago.

1824
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 4: But sometimes even name they even throw wise at the

1825
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 4: end of the locations Cooper, Yeah, Cober, Couber, Couber, pd

1826
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 4: p E d YEH didn't think that a bunch of

1827
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 4: underground rocks.

1828
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 3: Some of those guys when they go underground, they spend

1829
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 3: like like weeks underground. Yeah, you know, like it's they

1830
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 3: get well. But yeah, anyway, we'll take we'll take the

1831
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 3: show out to our Radelaide one day when we when

1832
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 3: we do, you get my Australian to a one day,

1833
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 3: We're going to do it. I guarantee we'll hit up Radelaide.

1834
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 3: It's a fun city. It's a it's a good bachelor

1835
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 3: bachelor party weekend, like we would say Bucks party in Australia,

1836
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 3: but for the audience, I'll say bachelor party. Have a

1837
01:19:59,160 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 3: good time.

1838
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah great, Well we won't be underground later today, we'll

1839
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: be on the beach, stepping it up, kicking the sand,

1840
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:10,879
Speaker 1: splashing around, listening or I'm not listening, reading and answering

1841
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: your questions. Keep the coming, no dumb set the Athletic

1842
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: dot com. If you listen to the podcast on iTunes,

1843
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: come on, leave your boys, leave your bucks a five

1844
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 1: star rating and review clipper Buck.

1845
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

1846
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 4: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us. And remember,

1847
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: in the words of the Bare Naked Ladies, I can

1848
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 4: get a job. I can pay the phone bills. I

1849
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 4: can cut the log, cut my hair, cut off my cholesterol.

1850
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 4: I can work over time, I can work in of mind,

1851
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 4: in cooper pet I can do it off of you.

1852
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: But I don't want to embrace the day. People. You

1853
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: could stay every day and Dangie happy every minute. It's

1854
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: been so long with your funna inform, It's happened already.

1855
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 4: It's gonna be goody