WEBVTT - Episode 104 w/ Busy Bee & Capone 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.880 And it's drink Chats, motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.279 He's agree, it's your boy in the r He's a 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:23.560 Miami hippop pioneer. Up his dj e FN. Together they 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.320 drink it up with some of the biggest players in 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:30.960 the most professional unprofessional podcast. And your number one sorts 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.320 for drunk fat drink chas, motherfucking every day is New year' z. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:46.280 That's for drink Champs, drink up mother Hey, heys agree, ups, 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.400 it's your boy. What up is dj e F and 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.120 it's drink Chats, motherfucker happy. I will make some fun 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.920 right now he is in the building. We have a pioneer. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.400 We also have a component here. I want a big 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:08.280 a components the other guest host that we have tonight, 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.319 I wanted him to be the guest host, but now 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.200 we're switching it up so that component is gonna be 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.280 the guest Holsers. Right now, we have a hip hop pioneer, legendary. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:25.800 We would think of goldfathers, and there's certain goldfathers, but 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.800 he's not a golfather. He is a fall up hip 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:38.280 hop and this is busy motherfucker. Also who we have 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.679 in the building. I want to be clear. We have 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:45.080 a person who has four and a half micx, who 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:49.640 has platinum and gold albums. He's part of the best 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:55.680 group ever. His partner is the best man. We got 0:01:55.680 --> 0:02:10.800 compone and we love both, y'all. Yeah, y'all listening that? 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.600 Oh yeah, I like, I don't want them to share 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.639 the like, can they can get another one? You got it? 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:22.200 You got? I want you to talk whatever? Yeah, y'all. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:30.280 So you're not a legend like Busy Be tonight betting 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:34.200 for people like Busy Be. What's happening. Let's take it 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:35.960 from the beginning of the hip hop All right, let's 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.400 do that because you're want the Bronx. Correct, Yeah, we're 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:41.040 I'm from the boogie down Bronx where the only ship 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.200 really started from. You know what I'm saying. Bull Street, 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:49.720 Boston Road, Prospect Avenue to the Avenue Union Avenue, you know, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.040 stuff like that with the Grand Master Flash was doing 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.520 this thing Melly Mail did or She Dealer was a 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.480 little kid at this time, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.040 I think Grand Wizard did or what he was a 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.400 little kid at this time when Grand Master Flash and 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.920 Mean Jene was rocking and they had only three m 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.240 c s at this time. They had Mellie Mayle, Kick 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.120 Creole and Keith Cowboys. So it was just a handful 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.640 of m c s. It wasn't an old bunch of 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.160 m cs, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't old solo. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.040 It was a lot of DJ. Dcs were for the 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.880 DJs at then. It was it was it was it 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.520 was more classier, that more fashionable to be a DJ 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.639 because promoting the DJ right because today there's no more 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.720 m C You know, the m C has came with 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.840 the DJ. You know, I'm m C that and this 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.160 DJ bloom. You know, the DJ came with the MC. 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.960 Today you just got the m C or you got 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.520 the rapper. Now put the CD in, make the music 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.600 and here going. He eliminated the DJ so you don't 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.480 have to pay him, you know what I'm saying. And 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.000 I'm on my own. But see so the MC's is dead. 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:48.200 You know, you have the m c s and the DJs, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:50.560 and you got rappers. So you know, I go with 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:54.320 hip hop, I tweet and the rapper or the m 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.320 C came with the DJ. You know what I'm saying, 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.760 I'm m c blocks and this is DJ because the 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.920 DJ wasn't talking on him, so he needed someone to 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.200 rep him, right, And I'll give you a few MCS 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:05.560 that's you know that's still wrecked today. You've got LLL 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.920 cool J with the Creator, you got DJ Polo and 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.640 uh coolg rap You know you got me with did 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.880 or you got um um. Let me see all the 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.960 MCS with with DJ you you got being rock him, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.200 you know right, So so you know you have that 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.360 right now you have the new MCS and the new 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.400 generation coming out. They just got music and they're just 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:32.320 rapper us. Well, what happened to the DJ, right that 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:41.400 made the music? Ain't nobody business? That's DJ. That's my partner, right. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:47.480 He hates rapp up goes on there. Thanks everybody, right, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.880 all the guys that we're not even we're not saying 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.560 look at us, we do the backbone, that's right. But 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.120 and I agree. So you know at the very day, 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:00.400 you know, we need our DJ to help the rapper, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.000 and the rapper need the DJ to do his thing too, 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.599 because you got to promote that this DJ helped me 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.479 make this beat to make y'all right, you know it's 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.359 the crazy I'm so sorry everybody. I got two of 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:24.320 my partners here, see an ye DJ, you have to 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:29.360 describe the situation earlier. Today, I see busy Bee busy 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.400 Be seat me and said he looked at me because 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:37.320 we both champagne people, right bottle, Yeah, crack, be careful 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:42.120 with us. Very hot this today? You talk about today today? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, listen, 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.120 don't have to add the auto wrap that auto wrap, 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:49.039 Iced tea big up Mickey Bixon? Right Ali, who else 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.680 we got a big up once? That didn't We did it? 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:56.680 We did it Iced Tea Iced team. And I seen 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:58.800 busy Be walking to the crowd and you had that 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.960 V booklicko and you got and you filled me up. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.760 That's what I'm doing. I gotta fill you up right now, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:09.280 my whole bottom take that problem. But I how to 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:24.080 do this ship? So we all right, all right about listen, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.560 Mike Booth, Mike Boom is a champagne nigger. We all 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:33.520 Jake baking champagne nigger, champage niggs. We got the call. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:39.000 He killed that, okay, So busy me, let me ask 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:44.839 you a question right right right now. These brothers, the 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.720 new generation, it's out and they don't want to do 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.880 their history. They don't want to know who you are. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.960 I don't want to know who I don't want to create. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.360 They don't want to know who is. How you feel 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.480 about that, well, I don't feel about it, but I 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:01.960 tell you what they do. All they're doing, they just 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.040 it's just a green thing. It's just about a greed thing. 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.360 And everybody is happy that they being recognized at this 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.040 period of time in our culture. So at the end 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:13.920 of the day, like you said, I might be the father, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.640 but then you're an icon, and then they got to 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.400 respect that because of who you are and when you 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.400 do what you do, you still do what you do. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:23.440 And then they and at the end of the day, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.600 they fans, They actually fans of what you do because 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:30.360 some of them is made up. We was born to 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:34.240 do this. Our fans created what we do to give 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.360 us the energy to do what we do. So those people, 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:42.400 some of the new generation, it's actually being made you know, 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.440 because you look like a Noriego, I'm gonna make you 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.760 do that. You just say these couple of rhymes and 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.920 then that's what it is. But then the real m 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.200 c s stand out. I've been doing what I've been 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:56.680 doing three long not too long. So I go back 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.680 nineteen seventy seven, before records before to yell, it's more 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:08.680 busy be We're gonna do it two no I was born. 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.000 You know, all I do is just reinvent myself every 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:13.600 two or three years. You know what I'm saying, to 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.200 keep it rolling until we're right now today, I'll still 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:18.520 roll with the snoop dogs to wish Khalifa was you. 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.360 You understand what I'm saying. Smoking good and drinking champagne. 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.560 That's what I did. Let me just tell you something 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:27.320 about dude. Two o'clock in the morning I landed. After that, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.200 you already know what I'm gonna two o'clock in the morning. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.640 I landed answer that. The only thing I didn't do 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.480 was think about how I'm going to smoke the weed. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:43.040 So I brought all the weed in the world. I 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.920 went to every every week. I had all of it. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:52.960 Busy Beak. I'm descending there and I said, holy ship, 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.319 busy something, noise something that how you're doing? I said, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.840 I got all the weed in the world. He goes, 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.600 you ain't got hit to smoke of that? Right? Yeah? 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:10.640 Why did I'm not thinking that? He goes, follow me 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.360 and we an incident we walked through. I'm following, busy Bee. 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.880 And not only did he show me when against the guards, 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:24.560 I also got Marlborough Greens for people who smoke. If 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:30.320 you're smoking, New Boys, Marlborough Green's and Europe is the 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.920 same exact ship as Boys. And this nigger grabbed me. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.040 I felt like in my mind he smacked me in 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:39.679 the back of my head and say, just follow me. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.679 But that's that's experience. Here's the deal. Here's the deal, 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.680 busy Bee, right, what it is is that experience. I 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.120 was proud to follow you. I was proud to ask 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.520 you for help. I was proud. Do you think this 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.680 new generation isn't proudly because I am supposed to be 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.320 the busy beast to of the Asad Rockets, to the 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.600 little boozy verts. Do you think that that that they 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.079 would do the same thing that I did with you, 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.079 because I know they don't. I know they won't because 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.959 I mean, they still think that they came into this game. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:16.920 And that's why you know, I put together my own 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.360 you know, like you know, I followed the Melly Males 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.600 and stuff like that in the hip hop and I say, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.319 and I always wear black and I always will because 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.280 I dress up for their fender rules and now heads 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.400 will roll when rappers will die. And whoever won the battle, 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.320 I would give him a trial because I know I'm fresher. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.480 I was born to never but be lesser more than 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.160 the record in the show to me, I came here 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.480 to said the world free from around the ways. Back 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.720 in the days, I got beat so you can get paid. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.439 I made this a job YouTube bit slobs, and now 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.520 you the world learned. Still all robs. You got a 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.959 little bit of fame and wealth. Now you think you 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.679 did that all by yourself. I am you, but you 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:10.280 ain't me because started rapping to two thousand three. I 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:19.240 just tried to stay together. You know. I let them know. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.240 You know I've been doing this for a little while. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.959 Respect the culture, just like when you're smoking weed now, 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.200 you know, because for a new generation of smoking weed, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.200 you have people that sixty seventy years old been smoking 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.760 we call it pot marijuana before y'all start calling it 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.400 loud and all that. Respect those people that smoked that weed, 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.679 because they was doing this before you even got to 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.680 the legalizations came into this planet. And this is the 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:43.319 reason why I'm sorry to cut you off. This is 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.080 the reason why I love when we're doing today, because 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.400 it was a brother that walked in here. And now, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.800 earlier today, I was doing a show and a brother 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:55.880 walked in here and said, so, when you're gonna have 0:11:55.920 --> 0:12:01.280 more pioneers on your show? And I said, do you 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.200 watch my show? And he said yeah, And I said, 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:08.320 it's Caress, not a pioneer. And I started naming names, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.640 and he assisted that you know, you don't what you're right, Nolor, 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:14.920 but at the same time you're wrong because I want 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.640 the people that came before wants the herbs. He wants 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:23.080 the herb wants the busy will be considered the icons, 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.920 you know. But I appreciate it, like I appreciated what 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.520 he said. I appreciate because he wasn't hating. He was 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.120 just like, yo, look, GLORI like you guys basically because 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.080 we don't interview with anybody on the third. If you're 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.640 on the thirty, you gotta I'm a double nickel. I 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.760 ain't afraid of my show. I look good. It's a 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.120 double nickel, that's and you're looking good out here. What 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:50.520 I'm saying, goddamn again, I see busy be not only 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.400 in Amsterdam, but we've seen them in l A in 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.840 l A and he and Roscoe's and you're still looking good, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:04.400 still smoking with many I drink grapes and I smoke good. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:11.760 Got that, sir, rock You know how many stuffing hard drugs. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.400 I never did in my in my culture, so I 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.800 always did to find the grapes, you know, because I 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.360 always stood around the people that said this is the 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.640 rich stuff. I wanted the rich stuff that's that's exclusive balls. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:25.719 Right yeah, yeah, this is in case you want to 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.840 some flash it right here, right now. You're doing some 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:36.520 flysh it right now, right now, now, right you as 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.200 a person that was there in the eighties, you as 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.600 a person that was dead from the inception from the 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:43.560 I don't even know what that word was, in the 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:52.360 beginning of the very beginning, right, it's like that. So 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.760 I got you you as being there from the beginning 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.840 right when you listen to the music. Now, are you 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.920 just appointed or do you understand? Well, I'm not too 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.120 much of disappointed because some of the guys I do 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.640 understand that I do have some of the New generation. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:14.640 I mean, if you call like ludicrous new generation to 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:20.000 where he's coming from, you know to I listened to 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.000 some of those. If you're making sense to the Kendrick Lamars, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.800 you know, I can understand that he's when you're just 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.160 doing that what they call in Atlanta, that that that 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.600 crump all. I don't even know. You know, it's just 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.920 good music. Music speak for itself. So if you're putting 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.280 something behind it, then then you got an exclusive. You 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:46.720 wind up having a class if you take music the 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.600 day I used to. I'm sorry, I don't know if 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.600 I'm letting you down right, no, no, no no, But 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.800 for years that the end of the day, it's about 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.760 the DJ and the producer. The music is right, then 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.200 it speaks for itself because the DJ knows and then 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.400 the DJ helps the producer to tell the people, hey, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.760 this is what they But now the consumer became the DJ. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.040 But we can change what. We can change that because 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.040 we're speaking on it now. You know, the DJ is 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.360 demand period period in hip hop. But I feel like 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:21.000 DJ became castrated. But I'm saying in hip hop, please 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.560 talk in hip hop, don't. The DJ is still the 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:30.360 god that should be now a rap rap he killed 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:39.080 that he did he now wrap is a different scenario. So, 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.640 like you say, when you're driving, you stay in your lane. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.040 You're in hip hop, stay in your lane because you're 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.240 the god. As long as you got an m C 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.200 that will follow your rules, you still to god and rap. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:53.640 It's a different scenario because you've got so many industries 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.760 now that this is a billion dollar industry. Hip hop 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.160 took over planet Earth. If you're not doing nothing in 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.360 hip hop, you're not even making no money. You either 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:07.720 a fast food worker, a janitor, Wendy, or doing something 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:12.840 that illegal because hip hop took over the planet. If 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.960 you're not working in the industry of hip hop taking 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.080 care of a person like me or Noriega or an 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.200 MC that's worth that money, you ain't getting a dime. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.760 And I'm sorry to say that. But the hip hoppers 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.640 and the hip hop ats, how y'all saying we killed it? 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.560 You know what I'm saying. So that's what it is 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.680 to hold your hip hop man. That's all I can say. 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:38.280 It's peace, love, unity and having fun. And we took 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.000 over the planet. There's no place on planet Earth that 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.320 there's not a B boy, a break SI based on 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.920 graffiti artists something we don't took over. So busy for me, 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:54.360 let me ask you, like, as a person that I 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.640 would have to call you a pioneer even more than 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:58.640 Caress because we have cararasts on here, we have Big 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.120 Daddy came on here, but the can is coming out soon. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:05.040 But was there ever a moment in this music industry 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:10.320 where you was disappointed when you were just like, no, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.760 because okay, I never hate it. I'm not a hater. No, 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:18.280 I ain't say if you disappointed about something in hipop, 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.120 then okay, yeah you could be a hater. You might 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.200 not call it that, but then a guy like me, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.560 somebody that they're call it that because you guys are older. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.360 Somebody look at at the end of this day. I'm 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.080 not that I look at some people get lucky breaks. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.840 Like I said, again, you don't even have to be 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.560 a rapper. You could just look like one if somebody 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.840 can put that money in you and make you say 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:43.479 two or three rounds that you've ben't been in. And 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.200 it happened. It happened with Grand Master Cash in Big 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.920 Bang Hank. Let me stop you right there. Um. Jermaine 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.800 the pri got on our show and said he looked 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.800 at Criss Cross and he wrote he said, he wrote 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:01.320 every lyric old criss Cross Hole for problem just because 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.439 he looked at the alright, but hold up, but Rappers 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.199 the Light one of the biggest the records that at 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:07.720 the end of the day, even Rappers the Light, it 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.760 only lasts six months. If you ain't real, I'm good, okay. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.639 If it ain't real, it ain't gonna last. You understand 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.520 what I'm saying now, you can be made up Milly 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.600 for Lily. If you' that record is skip, y'all be 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:24.879 fucked up to day. You don't think you understand what 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:33.359 I'm my feelings when I was like, I'll be a 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.879 perfect example of the realness because I go back that 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.800 far and it's two thousand seventeen, right, I'm still standing 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:46.760 still to speak only and I probably think this is 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.800 the best question, and you're probably the best person to 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.600 answer this because real hip hop living Europe more than 0:18:54.760 --> 0:19:00.400 living they would they respect. He's gonna says at out 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.000 love so much, man, I mean, dressed by myself, I 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.440 can go pack the house at eighteen hundred by myself 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:09.960 to where I didn't know that until I got there 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.960 and thought I looked in the crowd, I would like 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:14.920 the Blues Brothers and Ship and saw all the people 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.800 and said said, yeah, who who else on the card? 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:25.520 He said you nobody? I said, what? Just me? They 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.719 said yeah. I said, oh ship. So you know you 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:32.400 can't get that right here in the US. Right now. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.040 You know, I'll get y'all my homies, friends, they girls, 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.119 and then we got a pack house. You know what 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.560 I'm saying. But as far as the people that paid 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.960 that money and came to see and appreciate that respect, 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:48.000 they're not going to come into America. But in Europe 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:54.320 they spending euros. They got four months saying when he 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.480 was and now couple on to me ask you the 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.800 same question. I apologize, um, because you know this we 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.080 got we got busy beat. But I want to ask 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.200 you the same question. Does hip hop actually exist more 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:12.160 in Europe than in America? I would have to probably agree. 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:17.120 But do you what do you mean fans or the culture, coach, 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:20.359 because it might be a different No, I think is 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:24.359 a culture you no? No No, no, you corrected with you 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:27.960 how you applied that, because when you said fans on 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.479 the culture. But let me take the fans await, let 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.560 me just just just deal with the culture. Do you 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.560 remember we went we was in Germany and the promoter. 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.520 We just we couldn't see him for thirty minutes because 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:46.280 he went and put up with CNN the bait, and 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.840 then went and did good Feed you. He did a 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:58.000 whole piece piece big we win, and we're worried about 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:02.920 our money. We're not. We're not. We're understanding when the 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:06.240 brand is that there like it's coming, and he wanted 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.560 to show us. So he went out there and did 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.280 a whole piece. All right, I thought, I'm Puerto Rican. 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.400 A thrope is when you just a piece, is when 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.639 you letters box letters. Right, he did a piece for 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.359 piece that's me and me and this nigger is like, 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.040 that's why he like, right, you can never get that right. 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:29.960 You never get that in America. You don't. You don't. 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.120 You don't you get fans that are drawing you and 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.639 and spend time on doing something for you and to 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.360 come to give it to you, to show you what 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:43.080 they do. In America. I mean, guys come to the show, 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.359 they're looking for the girl to go home with. They 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.879 heard you, and they're gone. You know what I'm saying. 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:53.159 In the beginning, it wasn't like that the commercialize and 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.840 the and the industry took over That's what I say. 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:59.000 Now to to this day, you can push your button down. 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:03.040 We could be millionaire. It's no more discrimination in hip hop. 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.560 You could be green, black, purple, whatever, and then say 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:08.760 I'm a millionaire. Because you could press a button. You 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:10.240 can go on the internet. You can just be on 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:15.040 TV YouTube right now and DJ and make ten thousand dollars. 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.480 So I'm saying, the hip hop culture took over. We 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.920 are the world right now. Yah, it took over so much. 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.080 And sometimes you don't even know, right because it's just 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.560 like and they're talking hip hop lingle right, So that's 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.760 all I'm saying. It's over. We took over the planet. 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:35.080 I remember thirty years ago, you had to wear that 0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:38.240 suit tip for CNN and you couldn't talk like that. 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.200 They would talk with us down like these people here 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:45.600 is doing that. Oprah Winfrey is a perfect example. She 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:48.600 was she was fat with the AFRO and then Baltimore. 0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.560 They talked about her. She's a billionaire, you know, and 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:55.800 at one time she didn't like hip hop. Donald Trump 0:22:55.920 --> 0:22:59.720 didn't like hip hop at one time. Yeah he's now 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.960 he old little Kim, He know us, he knows who 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.040 we are. And now all of a sudden. He don't 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:08.080 know nobody. Now you understand what I'm saying. So, I mean, 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:11.320 you know our culture is strong man. So when you 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.560 being from the beginning, right, did you ever think that 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.160 we would lose control the way we lost control? Now, 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:22.360 let me explain what I mean, because what I mean is, um, 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:24.680 when we were doing hip hop, when Marv Deeper doing 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:28.159 hip hop, NOAs doing hip hop, it was untraditional. It 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:32.520 wasn't just the way hip hop and all that, right, 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.679 But now we us, we're supposed to be who you 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:40.240 guys were or who you guys is still to this day. 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.720 And we can't control these these new guys. But but 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.560 you are controlling because we look where we're at right 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:50.320 now and some of them new guys can't do this. 0:23:51.080 --> 0:24:02.840 We're on the podcast millions right now. You know what 0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.760 I'm saying. So I mean, we're still winning. It's no, 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:09.439 it's no more losing. We already won and we win it. 0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:11.840 So now I do it like this. We want to 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:15.760 go to the playoffs to get to the championship. Right now, 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:18.080 You're always going to be in the playoffs, Norway, because 0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.920 you already won the championship a couple of years ago. 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.480 When you when you was at your people, so you 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:32.919 got your propers. Brother. You know, don't keep rolling. You're 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.520 gonna get money for the rest of your life. To us. 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.080 As long as you keep telling the people what you're doing, 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:39.879 and you can show that you can still do what 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.520 you do, they're gonna come see you. And this is 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.400 the reason why I funk with you. Because you don't 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.320 know why I funked with you, It's because after you 0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:52.680 have ten years in this game, it's either you're gonna 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:56.440 get up or you're gonna be better, right, Because the 0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.480 thing about it is we them ten years. You can 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:04.720 never ever judge those ten years of loyalty. But what I 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.160 I mean by that is if you work for Makingdonald's 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:09.560 and you there for ten years, you can take up 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:13.040 your MacDonald's hat and nobody will ever bother you when 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.280 after you leave. But you can do ten years in 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:17.440 hip hop and you do ten yars in hip hop, 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.919 you can never take your mask, especially if you was 0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.320 if good in hip hop when you came out. When 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.760 you came out and the people expect that you then 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.600 then those people growed up just like you rolled up, 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.000 and they're gonna tell late people your ship. My man, 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:34.119 Noughty was this ship back then. In some cases they 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.520 grow up with you. So there it is. So don't 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.680 never think that you lost nothing, Norvy. And you know 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.760 what I'm saying. You're still the champion of your coachure. 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.240 You're still the champion your people keep still that flash. 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.399 You know what I'm saying and what you're doing. So 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.119 you know, you don't know. You ain't composed, you know 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.800 what I'm saying. So I meant everybody and the whole team, right, 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.600 so everybody is happy, you know what I'm saying. So 0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.800 you ain't never lost me. No, no, no, I'm thinking 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.879 all week when I think about it, I think I 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.000 think of that. I think that a young generation because 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:09.119 the thing about it is right, I was fortunate enough 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.240 to come into era where you we had to respect y'all. Right, 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:17.760 we had to look up to y'all. Now this error 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.480 is it's like fatherless. No, it was like I gotta 0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:25.680 look at the person who came out two months before them, 0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.840 but they didn't, you know, look at that saying that's 0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:33.920 my hero. And those guys came out to months. How 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:48.120 is he the two months came out yesterday? You First off, 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.960 I like that record it. But at the end of 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.880 the day, then you're just going to get the run. 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:56.800 I've seen the video. I did not as long as 0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.440 they're going to get it, and then it's a rap. 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.800 Such a person like you, such a person as I 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:04.320 twenty years from late career, they're going to talk about 0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.159 the same as they're gonna keep talking about me. You 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.240 know what I'm saying. And that's the difference. But do 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:11.240 you ever try to like reach out to like a 0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:14.360 person from the younger? Yeah? Yeah, like who let's give 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:18.600 us what's my man? Um? No, no kill? But in 0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.480 here from the South he did type of weight make 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:31.480 is that? I like that ship? I funk and I 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.399 never met him personally, and he's very humble, right, but 0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.359 he saw me, his boy said, a busy b I 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.600 left the mess because I mean me, if I like 0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:41.840 your ship, I'm gonna find one of the guys in 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.000 your crew that do know me and tell them, Yo, 0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.200 tell them, Hey, okay, tell tell about Let's describe that 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.199 a little more than death. So you've seen him at 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.479 the BT hip hop a war, okay, because I do 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:58.639 all the hip hop shi and you smoke every right, 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.159 So I go there and then I look for the 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.320 guys like such a squamie and find all the guys 0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:07.120 that I hear on the radio that's that's right for me, 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:10.080 and go and give them their props to let them know, hey, 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.520 you on the right track. Keep doing what you're doing. 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:15.239 I love that ship. And if you haven't heard from 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.800 the Icons or the Pioneers, and one of them mentor 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.560 you got my motherfucking blessing and then they say, my nigga, 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.520 busy bee, that's what's up. Man. I appreciate that, and 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.040 that's it, and that's all I asked for. Man. Respect. Now, 0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.879 at the end of the day, when I came up again, 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:32.720 I didn't make a lot of money millions and thousands 0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:36.199 of dollars, but I got two point three billion in 0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:47.640 respect and I'll take that all day. What yo, Let 0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:52.680 me tell you something about you, because I just miss 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:57.520 But I've seen you everywhere every time, me and Capone, 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:03.440 and you always smile, You always was happy. You never 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.040 you never was better. Why is that the case? Because 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.480 they always say never let them see you sweat, Now 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.960 see you cry, keep a smile on your face, keep 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.680 it feeling good, and something to always have happened good. 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:17.880 You know what? I'm saying so, and here I am 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.400 right now. I was at all rap chilling and you 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.360 said your bits. You know, man, I'm want you up, 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.239 my show man. So I'm right here. You pull up 0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:29.440 because you know why. You know why my father's cutting 0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:34.080 you off. But you know why we owe your generations. 0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:41.760 They owe us. But instead of me telling them to 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:45.120 owe us, I want to show a perfect example. I 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:47.880 don't want to show love to my forefathers. I want 0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.920 to show love like, not just your forefathers, it's hip 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:55.560 hop's forefathers. Thank you. If it's all of us, is 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:58.200 it's drink champs or none of the things? None should 0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.120 we do if y'all wouldn't pave the way for all 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.400 of us. So we want to show love to the 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.440 people that came before us, the big Daddy Kings, the 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:12.880 rock camps, the busy beings, the chuck chillouts, Uh who 0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:14.760 else we've seen to that We've seen so many people, 0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.360 brucey Bean, we Uh. We want to show love to 0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.480 y'all because the thing is, we don't ever mut y'all 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.200 to feel un welcome. Why do it to myself when 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.560 I see y'all, brothers, Even if I don't know, y'all, 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.480 I run up to you, hey, because I'll be a 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:35.280 fly motherfucker sometimes sometimes my giant ship right now. You 0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.440 know you always got some and you always got liquor. 0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.000 So I run up on the brothers let them know. 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.840 So they might have seen the Beach DVD or they 0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.320 might have seen something. Say oh yeah, that's busy. You 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:47.800 know what I'm saying, And then I'll let them know, hey, 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:49.719 though love is love, man, I'm not no no hay 0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.800 to ship. Be. I congratulate, I appreciate what you're doing. 0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.440 I'm here, come and have a drink with me, smoke something. 0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:57.640 And then they said, yo, be that ship was dope, busy. 0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.880 He came here, he smoked champagne. You smoke that good 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:02.640 ship with us. And it's because some of them they're 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:07.520 gonna smoke good, but they don't. They be smoking like 0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.840 a motherfucker man, but they don't smoke good. Man, I 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.880 smoke good. What I'm saying, I want you to break 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:20.320 down the difference from rap and hip hop, okay, because 0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.520 earlier we alluded to it, right and you said it, 0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:28.000 but I would like you to detail it. Okay, whoever 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:32.160 speaking back there, I love y'all. But can you coming lick. Okay, Well, 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:37.479 the difference now because okay, rapping now everybody's just rapping 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:41.840 about what they got, who they fucking, how much money 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:45.040 they got and and and what kind of car they're driving. 0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.320 When we started, we was telling yall stories about just 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.480 make believe stories, fairy tale that sounded good to the 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.040 beat and made you rock to it, such as the 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:59.760 Jimmy Spicers to Slick Rick, the Rulers, the heavy Ds, 0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.240 you know what I'm saying. People like that would tell 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:06.000 you all stories to the funky beat, and such as myself, 0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.360 I keep you smilling and rocking to the funky beat. 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.320 You know what I'm saying. To right now, they're just 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.680 talking about what they got, who they getting ready to 0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:15.680 have sex with, how many babies they got, and then 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.320 at the end of the day they're going to jail, 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:19.920 You're going to child support. You know what I'm saying. 0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.200 They're making a TV just like that, you know what 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:26.120 I'm saying. So you know, hip hop then was fun 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.760 with the peace, love, unity and having fun. To now 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.600 rap is just about how much money a person is getting. 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.320 At the end of the day, all you gotta do 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:35.960 is make a mistakes and then the lawyer you're gonna 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.800 take it away. Producers are gonna take it away, you know, 0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.080 so you're gonna lose, you know what I'm saying. So 0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.480 me myself again, I just like having fun. I make 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.880 my money, I take care of my family and enjoyed myself. Man. 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.400 That's it, man, That's what it's all about. That's what 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.280 we came in here when we started was peace, love, 0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:57.480 unity and having fun. If you're not doing that and 0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:00.000 then you're not doing it, man, that's not hip hop. 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:04.320 Do you think you think industry divided the culture? Yeah, 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.320 well the industry Like again, the industry could be anywhere 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.840 and again like right amongst us and say, hey, you 0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:14.080 look like busy bee. Man, I want to do something. 0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.719 You think you can talk to me? Yeah, And that 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.680 person is gonna say yeah, because that's an opportunity for that. 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.239 You know what I'm saying. I can be ready to 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:24.200 feed my family for ten minutes because soon they catch 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.840 on that I ain't really busy be and I can't 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.600 really do that ship busy to be doing because you 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.200 don't know what to be doing because at the end 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.720 of the day, you don't even know busy be you 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:36.400 know what I'm saying, So, you know, commercialize that money 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.200 as a motherfucker. But at the end of the day, 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:40.400 I appreciate it all because at the end of the day, 0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:45.240 they're feeding black folks. They're feeding families of the black folks, 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:47.400 and some of the white folks is getting some of 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.719 the money. You got, eminem you got you got to 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:53.840 frost you, I mean, you got white mcs. They're making money, 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:59.480 but it's feeding us, it's helping us. One kind of 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.560 said at the US. I think I'm pretty sure he 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:07.080 said wrapping something you do right, So you know, we Parkers, 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.239 I'm just David Parkers. That's Chris Parker. He didn't Kenny. 0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.799 So we like the Jackson's, we just split up on 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.440 that side. I'm on this shote, you know what I'm 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.480 saying first, So let me just say we're in sting 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:29.000 Rays right now. What's the advent Stingrays to the best host? 0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:33.840 He got on Spurs on his show, here got on Cowboy. 0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.919 I love this this guy, and listen, you gotta come 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.359 out here. You gotta get the whole experience and do it. So, now, 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.319 what's your favorite ever hip hop busy bee? Um, the 0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:49.120 early nineties. You think you would say that. I'm gonna 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:52.160 be honest, I had this question in my mind as 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.400 soon as I knew he was coming here. So she's 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.879 gonna say eighties. No, man, come on, man, I can't 0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.560 keep it no really than what it is. Man, I'm 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.879 not going front. They said the Early Night, So what 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:08.279 groups to mark that? The EP M D s, you know, 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.840 like try yeah ship That ship was fun. Man. You 0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:14.920 know what I'm saying to Easy and the n W 0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:19.879 They changed the whole ship because before before that you said, 0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.319 before that, I've always said, well guess what. I'm sorry, 0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.520 Well guess what was it? And when they said NAS 0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:28.560 album and it was and you said, oh, you're not 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:33.959 telling n W A because for me relaxed, he said 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:38.840 exactly the same. He didn't finish. They changed it, might change, 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.839 you said, you said it, but I'll tell you how 0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.720 they change it because I see from the East Coast. 0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:49.439 We were scared they're not gonna use that worst sime. 0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.040 But we were scared to say, hey, bitch, get the 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:58.160 off the record. We wouldn't say that on the record. Easy, 0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.399 You know what I'm saying, Hey, bitch sucking my dick, 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.440 Come onto the pot and people weren't crazy for that ship. 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.920 That changed you easy. I want to you too, and 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:14.040 I changed everything now now now East Coast wrapping now 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.840 oh yeah we're okay, bitch, yeah, and now we started 0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:24.000 that that changed everything. So so I apologize because these 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.719 people hate me when I cut people off. I needed 0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:32.240 a cigarette. That's something yourself off right now. But you know, 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:38.480 in your opinion, gangster rap was invented where on the 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:44.279 West explaining that brother, because Iced Tea was from the 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:47.080 Iced Tea was first. What's one nigga from the Bronx 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:58.360 name just Tim Dog, Just Tim Dog, Tim Dog do 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:03.120 it before Tim him Dog went to l A back then. Hey, 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:12.360 y'all talking to the icon, I was tea in New York, 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.280 in New York back in the day. Okay, oh, everybody, 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:22.600 everybody be quiet, please so busy busy listen to your 0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:27.640 pioneer Busy be your icon. Right. We've been debating this 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:32.120 on the podcast for so long, okay, And you're saying 0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:36.440 that the gangster when it comes to gangster rat one 0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:42.439 hundred percent, the first top you witnessed gangster rat came 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.200 from the West Coast, came from the West and they 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.960 came to ice Tea with six in the morning, so 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.759 he was on this show We Love Iced Tea. One 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.960 of the favorite story bro came with ice Tea was 0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:55.880 because he was from the West, but he recorded a 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:58.319 ship over here on the east because that's where the 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.799 vibe was. That okay, okay, so I'm sorry, So can 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.200 you tell us what we were recording at that time 0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:09.440 on the East coast because we were still recording party flavors. Um, 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.520 we was talking on reality because you had to drive 0:38:11.600 --> 0:38:14.160 called quest. You had every you had rock Kim, Rock 0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.560 Kim was talking to the guards pieces of what I'm 0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.040 saying and then so so now we was cool right there. 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.719 So now you had the guards had a little something 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.040 to talk about. Then you had the regular people that 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.279 have something to talk about. And then when you mixed 0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:29.680 the daylight, souls in it and uh holes in their lawns, 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.640 right you know. So so now we have a whole 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:36.080 rainbow of culture. You have everybody now so far in 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:40.280 this movement. It'll be now now on the West coast, 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:45.640 you had iced Tea, that was it. Then give it 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.239 about four years because this is like eighty three. Then 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:56.160 you got eighty nine. Easy too short, you know, my bad, 0:38:56.600 --> 0:39:00.880 bad brother. But describe the first gangster rap rap you 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:05.880 heard in w A so nice was six in the morning. 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.319 So it wasn't it wasn't actually against the song. It 0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.800 was just a real story because we knew about Larry 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:16.480 Davis in New York from SCHOOLI dans right. We knew 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:19.240 about when when I said six in the morning, police 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.359 at my door right away. Everybody in New York knew 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.640 about Larry Davis because that's when it happened. So we 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.719 we threw that in. It was something about Larry Davis. Yeah, yeah, 0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:35.439 I never knew that, Okay, So you know that little 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.839 story right there went for Larry Day who made him 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:41.399 famous and known and made Iced T famous. No and nice. 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.319 He had the kind of voice now and hip hop. 0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.080 The difference between the rappers. When somebody asked me that 0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.520 the difference is voices in hip hop, you have strange voice. 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.440 You have to the day your favorite rapper has a 0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:57.680 distinct voice. Facts, so every day everybody want to sound 0:39:57.680 --> 0:39:59.640 the same. You're only gonna last six months, get your 0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:02.919 money for asked, so let me ask you. They say 0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:08.080 someone that's reality rap or gangsters, when they really mel 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:11.319 did the reality rap first? What came first reality rap 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:17.680 for gangster rap reality? And who was the first reality 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:20.160 rapper because you said the first gangster rapper had to 0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.200 be Iced Tea. I would say Slick Rick because he 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.120 had the story with Lotti Dotty. We want the party. 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.480 We don't trouble, we don't, we don't bother. Nobody know, 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:35.399 just that when we get up on the message. My line, 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.520 the message to me, real wouldn't be real reality rap, 0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:42.719 but message wouldn't It wouldn't be reality rap for the 0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:48.600 elder cocaine cocaine nis doing cold back then. You know 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:57.239 what when agree with everybody could call that. You can 0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.719 say that, but Lotti Dotty would agree because it's for 0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:04.040 ever your body, you know. And then you had a 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:10.080 London person rapping and you never had nobody talk like that, 0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:14.440 and you had a different it's the voice of pronunciations, 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:19.040 that one, not one. I love to interview people like you, 0:41:19.160 --> 0:41:22.880 the people who came prior to it, because it doesn't 0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:24.320 sound like me, don't. They ain't gonna tell you the 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.319 truth because they don't know. I'm not gonna tell you what. 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.400 They got to relax. You gott you know what. You 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.879 gotta relax because we love you busy be and this 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.400 is your format and this is this is where you 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.880 gotta do. But this is a thing. This is the 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:43.239 reason why I love the You're our first pioneer. Right 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:48.680 we had Careress, he's like you know, damn there, yeah, 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:55.399 but Caresses but he's a paroneer. But he's your little brother. 0:41:55.520 --> 0:42:01.320 But I one love pick to people like you, because 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:07.520 back then, going to l A was a totally different experience, 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:12.200 right Like, they enjoyed you motherfucker's coming out there. They said, 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:16.800 you know what New York motherfucker's. They embraced nobody shot 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:21.560 nobody back then switched. I would love, I would love. 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.759 What do you mean? Ship was going down, yeah, but 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:31.960 but it was love but killed. You're talking about the 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:36.040 music because we're talking just like he said before before 0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:39.000 that we can go to l A and were it 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:42.480 was still known for you, I get robbed whatever. But 0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.560 if a MC came from the East Coast and went 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:48.040 to l A, you was like the guard that day. 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.920 Or that we appreciated hip hop, they appreciate kind of 0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:52.920 like the European thing y'all talk about. The West Coast 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.640 was appreciated hip right right now. Now, after that you 0:42:56.680 --> 0:43:00.160 know what, Pop and big started the feud because it 0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.759 wasn't none of that ship. It was just like you said, 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:04.520 you we can go to l A and have a 0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.640 ball because it was a different mix. Now we bought 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:10.960 some East Coast girls. That's West Coast girls. Now you know, 0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:15.040 we all partying together. But then when Pocket Pop started 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:18.720 that West Coast and East Coast and Biggie fed into 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.799 it again, it sucked it all up because then when 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:26.000 somebody died, it was like East Coast guys was like targets. 0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.399 If you go over there and you somebody and you're 0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.839 talking at gangster ship, they talking if you got out 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:35.360 of there safety, okay, good, But you didn't have a 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:38.080 good time. And before then we had a good time 0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:42.040 in that Like you know what I'm saying, we had 0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:52.040 a good time was exactly the way when so Sore was. 0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:57.319 Now I love you, just just a little bit more 0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:03.920 details to describe how much La was loved because prior 0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:07.160 to us, we used to hear like New York was 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:13.960 just they loved us, right, And I never got to 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:17.480 experience that. I never got the serious somewhere, So you 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:24.560 got the part where you was a target age, know 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.520 what I'm just saying. But I never I never got 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.879 this apperience where he just described what he means is 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.080 when I went to hoods, I went to was the birthplace. 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.720 And Andy appreciated that, appreciated that I went to hoods 0:44:37.800 --> 0:44:40.880 and went to the neighborhoods you know where describe some people. 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.080 I guess, like you said, I can't go now because 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.279 it's not good. But back then, I went where people 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.839 were selling the crack, at where the hoods was at. 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.800 Brothers was on the corners and stuff like that. You 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:53.560 know what I'm saying. I was in hoods where they 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.200 had the cars that jump up and down and stuff 0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.399 like that. I hung around with two dogs, the pit 0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:02.200 bulls and ships like that. But they shooting dice and 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:04.319 I was doing all that. You know what I'm saying. 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.000 It was good. It was love because they say my 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.480 bills in town. So everybody put out the grills. It 0:45:09.520 --> 0:45:13.040 was like a block party. It's like Monty Gros East 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.640 Coast rapper with no really little respect, and you come 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:19.960 in their persons hood ship whoever ran that hood were like, yo, 0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:24.080 we put out you're good for that. That day it 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.680 was just love. But then after that, you know, even 0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:29.719 some of those guys, you know, they either went to 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:34.080 jail or died or they don't run the hoods no more. 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.400 You know what I'm saying, Things change, you know, so me, 0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:41.160 I rolled with it. Man, I try to reinvent myself again. 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.719 Do what I gotta do. You know who is who 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.759 respect that? Because me, I'm not the one thing to 0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.560 go around trying to I'm a boss. I'm just a person. 0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:51.480 At the end of the day, the boss to say 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.480 that person is all right with all of us, and 0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.879 then I'll get loved from everybody. You know what I'm saying, 0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:58.719 And that's that's That's me. That's all I ask for. 0:45:58.840 --> 0:46:01.000 You know what I'm saying, Some must busy be You 0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:09.200 got that you're busy be your Bronx legend, right, But 0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:14.680 let me just actually like why it's hip hop so 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:20.200 different from every five years? Why do we change hip hop? Well, 0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:24.480 hip hop don't change, it's just the industry change. You know, say, 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:28.480 the industry took over some of us rappers and m 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.279 c s, which like, I don't have a contract with 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:34.640 a record company today because the record company can't tell 0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:38.080 me what my culture due. I'm telling you you can 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:41.160 follow me and still pay me, But you can't tell 0:46:41.200 --> 0:46:43.120 me to get up at six in the morning, because 0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:45.320 my people not up at six and old goddamn morning. 0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:48.040 My people up at five in the afternoon, party and 0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:51.320 the chilling. So you know, they don't know, they assume 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.840 they know. And then for people who's not real or 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.399 who's been made up, they gotta follow that because they 0:46:58.400 --> 0:47:01.200 don't know, so they think that what it is. And 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.399 then they get and they getting paid, so they think 0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:07.879 that's what it really is till they tell a crew members, Hey, 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:09.600 this is what it is. This is how we get 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.000 down to when you find out the real ship is 0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:15.480 too late, you're too far in, you don't talk the 0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.719 wrong stuff, you made people mad, and you didn't even 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.799 give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. So then 0:47:23.160 --> 0:47:26.319 you got one hit wonders that don't last. You have 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:35.560 a few guys I'll be seeing in the way spot 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:40.000 buying juice. Right. So you people of the culture are 0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:45.239 running the industry, are running industry right, and they care 0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.479 less about cultivating the culture. That's the bottom line. Because 0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.160 at the end of the day, the person that's giving 0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.640 you that big check, they're telling you, hey, listen, I'm 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.040 giving you this money. Make sure you don't give you 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.960 If you give that to your Tony, that's not going 0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.120 to be good. You know what I'm thinking. They know 0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.440 Tony gonna do the right ship with that money. You're 0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:06.759 just getting paid and you're happy. Tony gonna take that 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:08.399 money and turn it over and do the right ship. 0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:11.839 And we ain't gonna need us, you know what I'm saying. 0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.000 So don't funk with Tony. But go ahead and pay 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:16.719 your family, make sure everybody good, make sure the kids 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:19.840 is good. And you're happy with that at that moment 0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:22.799 because he right, I ain't had no money. I make 0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:26.040 your family right, have a few extra dollars too. That's 0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.319 the American dream to pay the bills and have a 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:32.319 coup of extra dollars. But I mean, you know, it 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:38.160 is what it is. I don't hate. Once again, I congratulate. Yeah, 0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:42.800 but listen, we actually the best error to the nineties, 0:48:43.040 --> 0:48:48.560 the nineties, nineties, the early nineties as a pioneer, right, 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.839 I wouldn't be a guy doing a good job if 0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:54.600 I didn't ask you this. We'll come on. What is 0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:58.759 the worst ever? Right now? You who you're going to 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:07.400 say that, Let's make some noise for him? Saying that, 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:11.080 why is it the worst ever? Because nobody, nobody following 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:15.319 now no money, they're just following the money right now, 0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:17.360 you know what I'm saying. They're not even thinking about 0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:20.479 what's really real. But you know, they said it sound 0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:23.480 good to put it out It's a melody. You look good. 0:49:23.520 --> 0:49:26.040 Put it out here. Even some pictures. Put them with 0:49:26.040 --> 0:49:30.319 one of them and you got a good melody right now? 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:34.200 Is that it could be social media, but at the 0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:35.719 end of the day, it's still the person that got 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:39.920 that money. So it is that? Is that? It? Is it? Nowadays? 0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:43.920 It's just like a melody in luck. Yeah, yeah, because 0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:47.120 the real ship is underground. We're the ones that's looking 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:49.360 for the real people underground. We're looking for that diamond 0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:51.240 in the row. And then it's not even the diamond 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:53.520 because they're coming right at us. We just have to 0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.560 have time. And then you're still so busy, you see. 0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.359 That's how busy you still is. You can't even see 0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:01.880 the diamond in the rough at times. That's why they 0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:06.560 call him the diamond and the rough because they're hard 0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:12.440 to find, and when you're looking for one to three, 0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:18.520 you're busy being man. Let me tell you something you're pioneering. 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.320 I'm trying to roll up and roll up, hold on 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:23.880 and let me just tell you something. Let me just 0:50:23.920 --> 0:50:28.840 tell you something. When we started hold On, everybody relaxed 0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:32.480 when we started this podcast. We started this and we 0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:36.680 wanted to do something for our pioneers, for our kings, 0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:39.319 for our legends. When you do something for me, I'm 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:44.440 happy for it. You know we needed you, well, we 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:46.960 didn't want you, We needed you. The spirit brought me 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:51.600 right here. Yeah, because you're a great person. This is 0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.880 how we always bumping each other always. We don't have 0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.640 to call each other nothing always whatever had your number, 0:50:56.640 --> 0:51:04.440 but I hear you for thirty Yeah. Right, you know 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:09.319 what I say. You're a great guy. And why don't 0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:15.280 people salute all legends the rock and Rolled. I really 0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:17.920 can't answer that one question because I'm still trying to 0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:23.000 figure that out myself, because you know, you know, I've 0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:25.960 been inducted to the Hall of Fame, so they say, 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:30.439 but then it's not recognized as I am the Hip 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:34.960 Hops first solo m C. You know that when I 0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.120 came in this game, it was no solo, it was 0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:41.720 three m c s. You had Grandmaster Flash with Mellie 0:51:41.719 --> 0:51:46.200 Male t. Creole and Keith Cowboy. Then you had if 0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:49.520 you want to use bandbody, he had Mr Biggs and 0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:54.960 mc globe in power. There was no solo MC and 0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.840 for me to be that, I didn't have a friend 0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:02.240 to say, come on you, me and you Tom and Jerry, 0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:04.880 or me and you saw Skin and Hutch. You know 0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:07.359 what I'm saying, Let's do something together. So I didn't 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:10.239 have that, but I liked it what they was doing 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:12.680 on the microphone, so I know I can do that. 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:18.360 And then again I have that distinctive voice that people 0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:21.880 remember because I mean, you know, at the end of 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:24.879 the day, they still remember that ball with the Ball 0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:28.960 Danger dangg get do the bang bang bo, get the 0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:32.319 ball with the Ball and the day, So that that 0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:36.880 went from seventy seven it's two thousand and seventeen. You 0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:45.480 understand what I'm saying, and right now good yeah. See. 0:52:45.480 --> 0:52:48.920 And this is where I got my props from when 0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:51.160 I made the record. The original record was called making 0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.560 Cash Money on sugar Hill label. But then Kid Rock 0:52:55.239 --> 0:52:58.000 re and did the song and he used my Ball 0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:02.160 with the Ball and we sold eleven million copies. You 0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:04.879 gotta say that again, so I gotta say you gotta 0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.880 say it again. So I made kids trumps Trump's hold me. 0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:12.920 Ki made kids got a household word, make something. So 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:19.080 I got that busy because kid Rock had two albums 0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:23.120 before on Warner Brothers. He had two albums. It's sold 0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.279 sixty units. You know, he made an a noise. But 0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.759 when he did the Devil without the Cause and then 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:33.040 my song Ball, what's the main song? I mean, it 0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:35.920 proves in the pointy certified. I gotta I gotta diamond 0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:41.000 out that out. I never went down. Just I'm diamond, 0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:50.399 the only thing I ever ever did. So kit Rock 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:54.200 became a household word off of some black ghetto hip 0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:57.040 hop ship. Don that lets you know that even if 0:53:57.120 --> 0:53:59.719 he had to sample that, he has a doll about. 0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:05.120 But he came to me. He came to me. I 0:54:05.160 --> 0:54:07.239 was in the l a doing the Wild Style, this 0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:09.360 movie called The Wild Style, and we was doing the 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.920 reunion and Kid Rock was there and and me, I 0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.279 was on my starship and White Boy came up to me. 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:16.719 You know, busy be you know, I want to use 0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:18.000 the ball with the ball, I want to put it 0:54:18.040 --> 0:54:20.800 on the record, and I'm on my starship. I'm paying 0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.120 it no mind. Yeah, go ahead, put you on. He said, no, 0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:24.840 be I need you to come. I want you to 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:26.879 sign so there don't be in no trouble. I said, 0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.520 my hat fucking If I make some money, then you 0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:32.640 fucking you. You came to me. I want some guddamn money. 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:34.719 He said, hey, be okay, I'm gonna treat you right, 0:54:34.719 --> 0:54:38.920 man if And then all of a sudden, I heard 0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:41.080 the song. I was in the cab doing the ready 0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:44.279 I would get ready to a podcast ship. I never 0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:57.359 signed right. He did me right, I'm rich, shout right, 0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:00.640 shout off the kid rock because he definitely kept a 0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:09.040 hip hop He's the most import he kept his world 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.240 when he definitely kept his word. Because he's told his word. 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.520 I said, yo, just go ahead and do this ship. Man, 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:16.920 if we make some money, I called you, motherfucking you 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:18.640 hit me off. He said, be okay, no doubt, no 0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:20.799 that work. Because I was in my starship. I was 0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:23.120 doing what hout style, you know, and I was on 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:25.439 my show I'm smoking and drinking. He got the funk 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:30.600 out of here. But the ship blew up and then 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:32.680 and then I was doing the podcast. I was going 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.160 to eight eight point nine in New York with me 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.040 day I saw he was going to do the same ship. 0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:40.239 And I was in the camp and the song was 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:42.359 on the radio, and all of a sudden, I kept here, 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:46.520 ball with the ball, but I'm singing along, right, Wait 0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:53.360 a minute, and then you know, so I called Mon 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.160 and he said, be I told you the white boy 0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:58.840 kid Rob. I said, oh, ship yo, but I didn't know. 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:01.440 I didn't know what. So you know, it's many copies. 0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:03.880 So at that point of time, it was already a 0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.799 million copies with million point five and I was like, 0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:11.560 oh ship wow. And then ship time went on. When 0:56:11.560 --> 0:56:14.160 I got the plaque, it was three point five, so 0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:18.000 I'm like, oh ship. And then I finally gotta check. 0:56:18.760 --> 0:56:23.800 I gotta check for the first check to keep it on. 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:28.840 My first check was seventy five thousand dollars. I never 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:31.919 I never throw hip hop. I've never received a check 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:36.200 over ten thousand dollars. So when I saw that, I 0:56:36.760 --> 0:56:39.200 fell to pieces because I know I don't have a 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.200 bunch of kids, and I know nobody gonna get learned 0:56:41.239 --> 0:56:46.040 this money but from me, my wife and you know 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:49.640 what I'm saying, and my friends like that. Right. So 0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:51.960 I didn't have no kids. I had two daughters and 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:55.160 I was, so I was cool with that, and I 0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.279 went on with that, and then after that time went 0:56:57.280 --> 0:56:59.880 on and they said, b well, it's still climbing and 0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:03.360 this is like two thousand two. I'm like, still climbing. 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:07.160 That's not damn what the fun? And then kid Rock 0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:09.160 was blowing up, you know if he was on TV 0:57:09.440 --> 0:57:14.759 every fucking where and every time, and I'm being mine, 0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:21.640 so my ship is real like today you so, so 0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:24.800 then when he did that, like after a while, I 0:57:24.920 --> 0:57:26.960 just forgot about the ship for a while because you know, 0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:28.760 it wasn't my ship. I've seen him on TV. I 0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:32.960 was happy. And then they hit me with seventy five million, 0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:37.680 I said, they said, I said, that's more than three platinum. 0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:41.040 They said, be y'all on the almost a diamond And 0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:48.240 I didn't know where the diamond was, Well, diamonds millions. 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:52.240 So the only person that was ten million was hammer Shaggy. 0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:57.040 Shaggy did what uh was that ship? Um? It wasn't me. 0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:04.520 It wasn't me, and that at that time, at that time, 0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:08.600 that was the only people that was dying. I'm like, wow, 0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.800 we're almost that. So that's cool. And out of that, 0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:14.880 I'm gonna see damn near half a million dollars. I 0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:18.120 said what, and I just went, you know, it's just 0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:21.680 time went on. Then we let record. That's that's the 0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:26.200 point of the story. And that kid Rockings a real motherfucker. 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:30.360 We can't say kid Rockers a real motherfucker. I'm just 0:58:30.400 --> 0:58:33.120 not saying not ba trying to run for seeing some 0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:41.120 crazy right now, That's what the thing is. He did represent. 0:58:41.760 --> 0:58:46.160 But at the same token, it was like Viz didn't know, 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.960 he didn't know how far it was gonna go, right, 0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:53.000 but he did keep it real. And this is what 0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.040 I say about to Komo D. I go back to 0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:59.960 Kumo D started. Yeah, because Kumo D started that bullshit. 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:05.200 Yo bj B put the bob to the ball bullshit 0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.680 on hold. I put it on hold. I put it 0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:11.640 on hold, and then I bought it back out and 0:59:11.680 --> 0:59:19.160 I saw leven million. I hit Kumo D back with 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:23.320 his ship because Coumo D, alright, look like me now right, okay, 0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:27.880 because you gave me the alley. Okay, you gave me 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:32.320 the alley. How did you start with you? He was 0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:35.000 jealous because I was getting money. I was a flying motherfucker. 0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:37.600 He was he he was with the Treacherous Three. He 0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:40.600 wanted to be a solo mc SO in order to 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:43.320 do that. Wait, wait, because y'all was down together at first, 0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:47.640 he wanted to be sold from his group right because 0:59:47.640 --> 0:59:49.960 they had to split that money. Man they made five 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:57.920 hundred dollars. Man three, motherfucker's man was back then. I 0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:00.880 was the highest paid couple the solo mc SO. If 1:00:00.880 --> 1:00:03.760 I made five hundred, I made five hundred dollars. You 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:06.400 gotta remember, you got the Cold Crush, the Cold Crust 1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:15.680 four they made five dars advantage. You have to funk 1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:21.280 you four plus one more before they made it. I'm saying. 1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:25.520 So I'm with these groups while they're getting checks and 1:00:25.600 --> 1:00:28.320 they see me get my check. They're going to White Castle. 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:36.600 I'm going to be stay Charlie Steak. You know we 1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:40.200 have the Sizzlers And then it went on the Apple 1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:42.479 Bees and all that other ship. You know what I'm saying. 1:00:42.480 --> 1:00:46.320 But I would I was doing it like that all 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:48.560 on one second, Busy Be, you're all love. You live 1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:54.440 on the podcast Happy Birthday. You live on the podcast 1:00:54.520 --> 1:00:58.080 where you're at all off. That's where I love def jam. 1:00:58.120 --> 1:01:01.800 Oh that's my dog, That's why you're on house. Then 1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:07.440 I have no idea why you you gotta come uptown 1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:13.080 Sting Rays. We over here with Busy Beat Niggles, I said, 1:01:13.200 --> 1:01:15.320 I went here with Rob Love. You know what Busy 1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:17.960 Beat said. He said, robbed up from death Jam. You 1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:20.120 gotta come up here with your fake death jam card. 1:01:24.240 --> 1:01:26.920 Sting Rays come through. Happy birthday, Rob Love, you love you, 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:30.720 Robt Scorpio like Busy Beat on your way. Let's go 1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:35.360 alright one love Lil you know him and pop was 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:36.880 the only thing is that they had the great ship 1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:42.880 right there, the great sho the great part to go. 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:50.400 I feel like I went to so busy be hip 1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:56.440 hop has grown so much. You've seen that from this 1:01:56.760 --> 1:02:02.640 infant stage. Is there anything that you could say? You 1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:05.080 know what if I, if I could do it over again, 1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:09.200 I would help change this part of hip hop. Yeah. 1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:12.800 I would try to keep the the corporate people out 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:16.400 of our business. They jumped into our business and then 1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:19.480 they did that for their sake, for their agreed to 1:02:19.600 --> 1:02:23.200 save their companies, to save their jobs. Because the producer 1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:26.200 that found that guy saved his job because he was 1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:29.320 about to lose it because he wasn't creative enough to 1:02:29.360 --> 1:02:33.400 find out something commercialized to make us some money. So 1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:35.760 he found the fake rapper, or he found the real 1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:38.880 rapper and put him on TV and made him some money. 1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:43.160 Now again, I'm not mad at that, but real is 1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:46.520 real and and that other stuff is what y'all want 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:50.960 to call it, So separate that too. Here here is 1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:55.920 a real m c for hip hop celebrating Coca Cola 1:02:56.320 --> 1:03:00.840 or Sprite or or Sony, whatever the case. Maybe well 1:03:00.960 --> 1:03:07.120 here is uh God we found that look good? Blis bliss. 1:03:08.640 --> 1:03:11.880 Separate that. Let us know because hip hop is strong man, 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:14.800 you come to us for everything. Y'all need our help. 1:03:15.120 --> 1:03:17.360 We got the black people, we got the white people 1:03:17.600 --> 1:03:19.520 that are do anything we tell them to do on 1:03:19.560 --> 1:03:22.800 the record if we if they agree, But if y'all 1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:25.240 do it the wrong way, y'all use us at the 1:03:25.320 --> 1:03:27.840 end of the day to blame us for your fault. 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:32.680 And that ain't our fault. Wrapp is something we do. 1:03:33.040 --> 1:03:36.040 Hip Hop is something we live. That's what it is. 1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:41.240 So if you could change anything and the ship, what 1:03:41.320 --> 1:03:45.640 would it be Again, the corporations tell them to come 1:03:45.760 --> 1:03:50.320 come see the real roots of what y'all are producing 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:54.360 on the street that's not real. You can help the 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:57.400 real people because the real people need that help. With 1:03:57.520 --> 1:03:59.880 that same thing that you have, that same idea you have. 1:04:00.720 --> 1:04:02.760 There's a real guy that can do that, and if 1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:06.000 the real people see him do that, then they're believe 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:09.000 in what you're saying. But you got a fake guy 1:04:09.120 --> 1:04:11.480 doing that, then don't you believe him? Because that fake 1:04:11.480 --> 1:04:14.800 guy was on TVMZ that wasn't on your commercial at 1:04:14.840 --> 1:04:18.400 this time and told us the real ship we don't 1:04:18.480 --> 1:04:23.520 want him. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, do 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:26.440 you think that without the corporate people coming in the 1:04:26.480 --> 1:04:29.960 way they came and you think that like rap musicians 1:04:29.960 --> 1:04:33.400 will make will be as will make as much money 1:04:33.440 --> 1:04:38.320 as then yeah, because the talent speaks for ourselves. Music 1:04:38.360 --> 1:04:41.800 speaks for uself. You got Stevie, one of the records, 1:04:41.880 --> 1:04:45.040 Ray Charles records that y'all still rocking to today, James 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:48.520 Brown today. They made them forty years ago, some of 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:52.080 them older than y'all, So it speaks for itself. The 1:04:52.160 --> 1:04:55.520 talent speaks for itself. Authenticity Glass. You know, the fake 1:04:55.600 --> 1:04:58.400 stuff don't last. It will last two years, three years. 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:01.080 If you're lucky, then you get give them something and 1:05:01.080 --> 1:05:08.320 then it's over right. God damn. From seventy seven, y'all, 1:05:08.840 --> 1:05:17.000 it's seven seven I'm forty years old. I was born 1:05:17.000 --> 1:05:24.480 and I was Yeah, let me tell you. I'm gonna 1:05:24.480 --> 1:05:30.240 tell you something about yourself, busy be. I've seen you everywhere, 1:05:32.160 --> 1:05:36.360 different countries, different states, different properties, different cities, different or whatever. 1:05:37.080 --> 1:05:40.080 And you're always happy, and you always got the weed 1:05:40.200 --> 1:05:44.800 to you always got the weed. You're always happy. And 1:05:44.840 --> 1:05:48.200 in case you don't understand how important you are to 1:05:48.320 --> 1:05:52.240 the culture or important you are to hip hop, important 1:05:52.280 --> 1:05:55.240 you all, we're gonna tell you tonight, and we're gonna 1:05:55.280 --> 1:05:57.800 tell you in front your face how much we fucking 1:05:57.840 --> 1:06:02.640 love you, how much that at anywhere I see you, 1:06:02.800 --> 1:06:06.400 I dropped whatever the funk I'm doing, I'll give you 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:11.320 a fucking hug, and I'll let you know I love you. 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:16.760 But in case you didn't know that, or you didn't 1:06:17.400 --> 1:06:21.160 understand how much hip hop has to sit down and 1:06:21.280 --> 1:06:26.760 bow to you. Literally, everybody that's doing hip hop, from 1:06:26.840 --> 1:06:31.280 a Boogie to Jim Jones to whatever, when they see you, 1:06:31.320 --> 1:06:38.240 they should literally like this. And if they don't, I'm 1:06:38.280 --> 1:06:44.760 gonna do it right now. But that's what it is, man. 1:06:44.840 --> 1:06:46.680 I mean, at the end of the day, again, that's 1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:50.480 just respect. I respect that and and and all I 1:06:50.480 --> 1:06:52.520 can do is just keep going. No but your hip 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:56.760 hop royalty. And the thing about it is if we 1:06:56.800 --> 1:07:01.040 should all bow down to you every single time receive you, 1:07:01.520 --> 1:07:05.000 because you don't ask for you about that, You don't 1:07:05.080 --> 1:07:07.760 ask for your respect. You just sit there and you 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:10.520 show love to everybody. I see you, I watch you 1:07:10.840 --> 1:07:16.800 show up to everybody's regardless. But that's not tonight. Tonight 1:07:17.840 --> 1:07:22.000 is we're showing love to you with Diamond what's up? 1:07:22.520 --> 1:07:29.840 And he's still getting kid rock money. That's this thing. 1:07:29.920 --> 1:07:34.840 And listen, man, you gotta be respected, You gotta be saluted. 1:07:35.440 --> 1:07:39.200 You have to be because in every other genre of music, 1:07:39.280 --> 1:07:42.640 when a person gets old or a person has a 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:47.440 certain amount of years, they salute them. Hip hop is 1:07:47.480 --> 1:07:51.400 the only jarmer, the only generation where you get older. 1:07:52.040 --> 1:07:57.840 And the motherfuckers when we got this guy just got 1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:02.560 want to change that. That's what this podcast is about. 1:08:02.800 --> 1:08:05.720 That's what this this this ship is about. It like, yo, 1:08:05.840 --> 1:08:09.720 let us let us a lout us right because we 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:12.480 now know that. So they've been conticking us. They've been 1:08:12.480 --> 1:08:16.400 telling us you don't know me, yoyo, why you don't 1:08:16.439 --> 1:08:19.599 interview new artists? And I said they got any seven 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:25.080 got power want to fire. I choose the interview Motherfucker's 1:08:25.120 --> 1:08:28.280 thirty and upright because I want to interview legends. You 1:08:28.320 --> 1:08:30.800 want to hear the real stories, and I want to 1:08:30.840 --> 1:08:36.640 interview people that innovated me, that motivated me. Right and 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:38.479 you know, you know I come to the brown You're 1:08:38.520 --> 1:08:51.720 brown Motherfucker's but block smoking. But busy be, I don't 1:08:51.760 --> 1:08:56.479 want you to ever forget or ever loose focus on 1:08:56.560 --> 1:09:02.320 how much hip hop owes you. That's the only person 1:09:02.360 --> 1:09:04.880 paid me. It is kid rock. Hip Hop never gave 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:07.960 me no you know, I traveled around. They found like that, 1:09:08.439 --> 1:09:11.439 you know, I never got no what shows and stuff 1:09:11.479 --> 1:09:15.760 like that regularly on TV show hou We can change that. 1:09:16.120 --> 1:09:18.639 We're gonna change something like that, you know. But that's 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:22.519 what it is. But busy Being, I just want you 1:09:22.520 --> 1:09:28.200 to be clear. You're a legend, right, capone knows your legend. 1:09:28.720 --> 1:09:31.880 If it knows your a legend, we all know your 1:09:31.880 --> 1:09:34.200 a legend. And we're gonna sit here and we're gonna 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:37.439 celebrate your life. We're gonna celebrate your accolades. We're gonna 1:09:37.439 --> 1:09:41.400 celebrate your accomplishments, and we're gonna celebrate you and for 1:09:41.560 --> 1:09:44.240 you being who you funk you are and giving your 1:09:44.240 --> 1:09:47.519 fucking whole life to fucking hip hop because that's the 1:09:47.600 --> 1:09:53.840 history month, right, It's just like perfect, it's my birthday. 1:09:53.880 --> 1:09:59.120 I'm a scorpio, so my birthday Saturday was Saturday the 1:09:59.160 --> 1:10:02.479 bottom and we gonna pop out. We didn't. We're doing 1:10:02.520 --> 1:10:05.200 it like that. You know, well, give me, give me that, 1:10:05.280 --> 1:10:11.400 give me that time. What does that time's so? Because 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:15.679 how how did the battle go with you with? Uh see, 1:10:15.760 --> 1:10:18.760 that wasn't a battle. It wasn't. It was called it 1:10:18.840 --> 1:10:21.560 was called a DJ convention. It was an m C 1:10:21.720 --> 1:10:26.439 and DJ convention was in and that was like when 1:10:26.439 --> 1:10:28.639 me and a J we we did all of those parties. 1:10:28.680 --> 1:10:31.160 Back then we was the one hiring everybody, using one 1:10:31.240 --> 1:10:33.839 paying everybody. And then again it was only a handful 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:35.960 of us. We had the Cold Crush had did or 1:10:36.120 --> 1:10:39.679 the Fantastic fives four d s. It was. It wasn't 1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:43.600 a lot of hence pioneers, right, so and then you 1:10:43.640 --> 1:10:45.680 know you didn't have a lot. So we used to 1:10:45.720 --> 1:10:48.920 always give conventions and MC convention, so everybody that was 1:10:48.960 --> 1:10:52.080 in m C and the DJ come on that original 1:10:52.200 --> 1:10:55.760 out conference and show love for everything. And then we 1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:57.800 have a little contest on the mic and see who 1:10:57.840 --> 1:11:01.240 do that? And that's what that was. That's that's all that. 1:11:03.400 --> 1:11:06.080 You know. He came at me because I didn't know 1:11:06.160 --> 1:11:09.880 nothing about it. It was like a h ambush. I 1:11:09.920 --> 1:11:13.679 got ambushed it that night by Cool Mo D. Two 1:11:13.680 --> 1:11:16.719 ways that. After all the thing's over and everybody happy, 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:18.680 and we get any party, and then the person get 1:11:18.720 --> 1:11:20.280 on and I say, ho, hol, y'all, hold up, don't 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:23.519 go away, don't go away. We got one more at 1:11:23.560 --> 1:11:27.120 your event, right, we got one more person. We got 1:11:27.120 --> 1:11:29.880 cool Mo D from the Treacherous Street. I want to 1:11:29.920 --> 1:11:32.680 get damn and everybody okay because they know about the 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:34.920 treacher Street. And then you know, so cool mo D, 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:38.800 so cool more D get on stage. Right, Hey, y'all 1:11:38.840 --> 1:11:40.840 heard about Busy b rocked the party. I'll give it 1:11:40.880 --> 1:11:42.960 to him. He's the greatest who doing this this. But 1:11:43.160 --> 1:11:45.200 I just want to say this about this and this 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:47.920 and that. Excuse me bee to beep, and I don't 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:50.000 mean to be bold. Put the ball, put the ball 1:11:50.040 --> 1:11:52.800 bullshit on hold, And everybody just starts back there. You know, 1:11:52.920 --> 1:11:55.360 when they say laughing, we just say, oh, he's snapping 1:11:55.400 --> 1:11:57.879 on you. So we said, oh shit, he just snapped 1:11:57.880 --> 1:12:00.880 on busy, be crazy and everybody crazy, and then he 1:12:00.920 --> 1:12:03.799 went into his a little rhyme and everybody just went crazy. 1:12:04.000 --> 1:12:07.080 And I'm downstairs, I'm smoking weed and drinking champagne, doing 1:12:07.080 --> 1:12:10.040 the same ship right now, and I'm hearing all the 1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:12.639 ship upstairing. I'm like, what the fu? And they said, 1:12:12.760 --> 1:12:16.800 yoh ship yo mo D upstairs he going off on you. 1:12:16.960 --> 1:12:20.800 I'm like, you knew D. Yeah, I knew from okay, 1:12:20.920 --> 1:12:22.840 you know. But he was no friend of mine, no 1:12:22.920 --> 1:12:30.160 ship like that you know right now. No, the promoter 1:12:30.240 --> 1:12:32.360 has something to do with that. No, nope, nope, I'm 1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:36.519 telling you what. He wanted to leave his group. He 1:12:36.600 --> 1:12:41.639 got tired of spending that money. Motherfucker. Then you see 1:12:41.680 --> 1:12:46.439 this mine and doing getting money all the time, right 1:12:46.479 --> 1:12:48.639 I was the only I was the highest paced solo MC. 1:12:49.080 --> 1:12:51.880 He said, ship, I gotta try to get some of 1:12:51.920 --> 1:13:04.280 this ship. Somebody retrospect because he's fat and ugly. Today 1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:10.120 we didn't get down, but you know the facilities, you know, 1:13:10.640 --> 1:13:13.040 I didn't even get to hear the whole scenario, and 1:13:13.120 --> 1:13:15.599 to the tape I had to tape the next day 1:13:15.840 --> 1:13:18.960 and I'm like, oh wow, So I had to call 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:21.320 him back out to come on. You want the battle now, 1:13:21.800 --> 1:13:24.160 We're going to battle now, motherfucker. We're going to go 1:13:24.200 --> 1:13:26.360 to the Fever where everybody was at knowing for the 1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:33.519 disco Fever. Bring your ass on your ome avenue. Yeah, 1:13:33.600 --> 1:13:36.639 bring your ass to the Motherland and let's you get 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:42.080 down right. So and then after that people understood, Okay, 1:13:42.520 --> 1:13:48.400 she rockets back. It's cool from hem from Haran. Remember 1:13:48.439 --> 1:13:50.200 what the juice? You better remember where the juice with 1:13:50.800 --> 1:13:55.200 tupats right right from there? You know what You've made 1:13:55.240 --> 1:13:57.800 him color the bron right, So you gotta come to right. 1:13:57.800 --> 1:13:59.800 You gotta come to the Bronx now. But this is 1:13:59.800 --> 1:14:02.840 what everybody's going to be at, mother and let's do 1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:05.920 this should start from a scratch, it would happened and 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:09.760 then I just did what the funk I do. So, 1:14:09.920 --> 1:14:11.960 so what was the bass like when you when you came? 1:14:12.000 --> 1:14:15.679 What was the boss I got? What was the balls 1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:18.120 like when you went't at? What? What was the first 1:14:18.120 --> 1:14:22.439 thing you said? The first things? It's deep you wanted. 1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:25.719 It was still wrong. I think I'll be again telling 1:14:25.800 --> 1:14:28.640 him from the streets to California to the shore is 1:14:28.680 --> 1:14:31.240 the main people there like the way I run my 1:14:31.360 --> 1:14:34.280 game because I got style, and I got class, but 1:14:34.400 --> 1:14:38.000 I don't pop my ship too fast. Got the pH d, 1:14:38.040 --> 1:14:41.400 got the master's degree. I'm being talked about over coffee 1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:43.840 and tea, and I float like the butterfly, sting like 1:14:43.840 --> 1:14:46.639 a beach. And there is no other than rocks like me. 1:14:46.840 --> 1:14:58.840 And I think that was about it. It was it wasn't. 1:14:59.360 --> 1:15:04.559 It wasn't a I don't no, no, no now. But 1:15:04.640 --> 1:15:07.080 you know you know that. Also, he's involved in one 1:15:07.120 --> 1:15:10.519 of the first hip hop movies, also Wild Style. We 1:15:10.520 --> 1:15:15.240 didn't talk that. That said a whole new right as well, 1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:18.160 because at the end of the day, you got fabulous 1:15:18.600 --> 1:15:24.040 who is which is crazy? And then so I run 1:15:24.040 --> 1:15:26.880 into people like fabulous to say, b I watched that 1:15:26.920 --> 1:15:31.559 movie Wu Style. And see, people don't understand when we 1:15:31.560 --> 1:15:35.240 was rapping back in the days after the party, people 1:15:35.280 --> 1:15:38.840 went home and stuff like that. I came to the 1:15:38.840 --> 1:15:42.480 parties because see, you know, we got over the day. 1:15:42.720 --> 1:15:45.879 But back then we had old Jays, the gold Fathers. 1:15:46.400 --> 1:15:49.439 Those was our Oover's. Today, you know what I'm saying, 1:15:49.760 --> 1:15:51.960 we could pick out a luxury car called Goldfall, the 1:15:52.080 --> 1:15:57.080 Cold Jack. He's from the Bronx. To get the nicest right, 1:15:57.120 --> 1:16:03.040 which right. So I when when they called me to 1:16:03.080 --> 1:16:06.400 do that scene, I came in that and then when 1:16:06.439 --> 1:16:09.760 I pulled up in that, they said, oh ship, yo, 1:16:09.840 --> 1:16:13.160 we're gonna keep that right there. Yo, that's the documentary 1:16:13.439 --> 1:16:16.800 right My My my cab driver made a couple of 1:16:16.800 --> 1:16:18.720 extra dollars because I say, hey, listen, they're gonna pay 1:16:18.720 --> 1:16:20.639 you a couple of dollars. Stay with me and back 1:16:20.680 --> 1:16:23.320 then with this twenty dollars for one hour and I'm 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:25.840 riding around in town. Give him forty dollars. I'm riding 1:16:25.840 --> 1:16:29.960 around the limo looking like Hollywood. Anyway, I'm TV now, 1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:32.120 I'm just trying to play you know what I'm saying. 1:16:32.600 --> 1:16:34.840 I'm going to the scene in the limos, and they 1:16:35.000 --> 1:16:37.320 was fucked up with that, so I said, let's keep 1:16:37.400 --> 1:16:40.559 that right there. So you know, pull up in that. 1:16:40.800 --> 1:16:42.760 Then you get in the car, put licaly and all that, 1:16:42.880 --> 1:16:45.120 y'all drink the champagne, and y'all stay in the car 1:16:45.360 --> 1:16:47.519 and talk. And that's that's how that scene came in. 1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:50.360 While staffs like fabulous, and I'm saying, be that was 1:16:50.439 --> 1:16:53.320 the fly shipped up. The more you get to the hotel, 1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:55.599 you put the money on the bed so I'm talking 1:16:55.640 --> 1:16:58.960 to be ship. So they used that as swag back 1:16:58.960 --> 1:17:01.600 then for me to they say, yeah, that's some flashes 1:17:02.760 --> 1:17:05.599 because everybody started doing that after the whole after they parted, 1:17:05.600 --> 1:17:08.759 they go to hotels, get some girls, smoke some weed, 1:17:09.120 --> 1:17:11.439 get some champagne, and go to the the hotel. Because that's 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:14.720 what I did in the scene, and I would throw 1:17:14.720 --> 1:17:20.519 it out there. My pet was Burgundy. Just now definitely 1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:25.320 stick in a different way. Go to the clinic. It 1:17:25.439 --> 1:17:28.240 came out Burgundy. That's it came out looking like that 1:17:31.920 --> 1:17:36.920 has your stuff back. You gotta last drink. Drink way 1:17:37.000 --> 1:17:39.800 too loud over there, so you see you through the 1:17:39.840 --> 1:17:44.960 Hennessy ship. You know what I'm saying. Almost Yampaign got me. 1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:49.000 That's why we connected. Get that. Don't get that every 1:17:49.000 --> 1:17:55.320 time you drinking because you're a champagne old school drink. 1:17:57.360 --> 1:18:07.280 You do some rocket you drink. You know, Rob Delio Rose, 1:18:07.600 --> 1:18:11.719 you said, nor me drink flowers. Listen, listen, I gotta relax. 1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:17.800 The reason why we start on this show is we 1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:20.599 want to give our legends. They flowers when they could 1:18:20.640 --> 1:18:25.800 smell them, they they trees and they can hit hell 1:18:25.840 --> 1:18:29.040 them the trees when they get hell them and drinks, 1:18:29.160 --> 1:18:31.720 and they thoughts when they can think of them, and 1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:36.800 they drinks when they can drinking. I'm drinking mine, man better, 1:18:44.240 --> 1:18:47.320 little weird a sting Rays. Let's stop. Forget where we are. 1:18:50.160 --> 1:18:55.479 How sting race chances? You know? Look? Do you see 1:18:55.880 --> 1:19:00.479 the owner? He got spurs that jingle? I think you're 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:18.920 walking around like you know, but sperm the only the 1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:25.600 only country, sting Rays, what's the address? Give us the 1:19:27.320 --> 1:19:32.439 avenuefty fifth Avenue. If you never had lemon wings, I 1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:36.320 don't know what kind of wings this is, Rocher. I'm 1:19:36.360 --> 1:19:38.559 not gonna lie. I think I like to my lakers. 1:19:39.920 --> 1:19:42.080 I have no idea what I meant, but in so 1:19:42.360 --> 1:19:47.639 fantastic the winds and this guy is such sting Rays. 1:19:47.720 --> 1:19:52.200 You gotta come up. You gotta visit stem I'm here 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:54.720 in hall of y'all. You this the first time the 1:19:54.760 --> 1:19:57.560 sting Race, Yes, my first time. Okay, it won't be 1:19:57.640 --> 1:20:00.360 your last, it won't be the last of many. And 1:20:00.479 --> 1:20:03.200 you see we got the magnums might move Happy birthday. 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:13.160 We love you know. But but I didn't see it 1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:16.479 that far in the beginning, Okay, I didn't think like that. 1:20:16.880 --> 1:20:20.680 I just thought it was almost almost something like what 1:20:21.200 --> 1:20:24.000 our parents were talking about. It's a fade, it's not 1:20:24.120 --> 1:20:27.720 gonna last you like that. No, I didn't. And then 1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:32.599 because I saw the Pepsi commercial quick, you know Mr 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:36.120 Freeze from the Breakdancers, he did a commercial with Pepsi 1:20:36.840 --> 1:20:39.760 and they had a movie called flash Dance. And when 1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:43.120 I saw that, I said it's on. I knew it 1:20:43.200 --> 1:20:45.240 was on because if they started with the Breakdancers, they're 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:48.919 going to get to the mcs. And they did with Sprite. 1:20:49.560 --> 1:20:53.120 Sprite made us rich, Sprite made us happy, you know, 1:20:53.200 --> 1:20:59.599 and then it went on from Sony Sponsors and then 1:21:00.000 --> 1:21:02.280 out you know, they start they start reaching out. Then 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:05.320 Gap you got ahold of it. So whoever that was 1:21:05.439 --> 1:21:08.840 in those industries, that was the corporate person that had 1:21:08.920 --> 1:21:12.880 to make commercials or to make their person some money, 1:21:13.520 --> 1:21:17.200 they came to hip hop to save their jobs and 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:20.160 to save you know, help us get money, but to 1:21:20.240 --> 1:21:23.880 save their jobs. So if they was making a hundred 1:21:23.920 --> 1:21:26.439 thousand a year for what they was doing, when they 1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:29.280 finally found a wrapper or a breakdancer or an m 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:32.879 C to help their people make some more money, they 1:21:33.040 --> 1:21:36.680 probably presidents now somewhere, you know what I'm saying. Now, 1:21:36.800 --> 1:21:39.559 most artists. I problized for cutting you over my brother, 1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:43.280 but most artists that's been down as long as you've 1:21:43.320 --> 1:21:47.240 been down. People say that they're better, right, They say 1:21:47.280 --> 1:21:50.160 that most of these guys, some of them are. Some 1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:53.080 of them are I bumped into my my peers. Yes, 1:21:53.160 --> 1:21:55.760 stay on, and they have a good reason to be better. 1:21:55.880 --> 1:21:59.280 Do you think you know? Because again, if I can wait, 1:21:59.560 --> 1:22:04.719 I'm just like you, I am you be together your period. 1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:07.360 If you haven't just bumped into the right person at 1:22:07.439 --> 1:22:10.240 the right time, or if you're not running around to 1:22:10.439 --> 1:22:13.400 chase what what we invented to let people know who 1:22:13.520 --> 1:22:16.080 you are, then you're not going to get it because 1:22:16.120 --> 1:22:18.080 nobody's gonna wake up and say, oh well I thought 1:22:18.080 --> 1:22:21.080 about blow and call you. But if they see you, 1:22:21.400 --> 1:22:23.200 you got to create your own look. And if they 1:22:23.280 --> 1:22:25.960 see you and you look like you're supposed to look, 1:22:26.160 --> 1:22:30.719 because I mean again, I'm a double nickel, I'm still happy, 1:22:31.600 --> 1:22:35.200 I'm still drinking champagne, I'm still smoking the same ship. 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:40.280 I mean, what what the fuck? But but but why why? 1:22:40.400 --> 1:22:43.840 Because I mean to be honest with you, your attitude 1:22:43.920 --> 1:22:46.960 is one of the most beautiful ast pioneers ever, right, Like, 1:22:47.640 --> 1:22:50.559 so what why are like you you're like to pick up? 1:22:53.280 --> 1:22:56.920 Why are you pick up? Like Okay, I'll do it 1:22:57.040 --> 1:23:01.840 like this, Okay, hip hop change when and will be 1:23:01.960 --> 1:23:05.599 the Negro League, not the major League, not the major league, 1:23:05.600 --> 1:23:09.280 and you got the Nero League, and then I would 1:23:09.320 --> 1:23:12.080 be sat you page in the Negro League and I'm 1:23:12.960 --> 1:23:17.280 he's a famous picture still top grade. He was at 1:23:17.320 --> 1:23:22.719 the top of his prime when he was forty. Jackie Robinson, 1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:27.920 Jackie Robinson was twenty. He was younger that would be 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:33.680 running in d m C for me. They came out 1:23:33.760 --> 1:23:40.200 with the sucker I'm sorry to when they said, Okay, 1:23:40.720 --> 1:23:42.920 we want to make records and put our stuff, but 1:23:43.479 --> 1:23:46.519 you two because maybe I had face shoes stuff on 1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:52.200 my face and you cut that. That wouldn't appeal to 1:23:52.439 --> 1:23:56.400 the people as we put on TV for our stuff. 1:23:56.720 --> 1:23:59.560 So these young guys can save the sucking MC. And 1:23:59.560 --> 1:24:02.679 then they after leaders with no strength. Nobody was doing 1:24:02.760 --> 1:24:06.519 none of these things to people start. We coaches start 1:24:06.640 --> 1:24:10.320 changing because people started hearing these songs and hearing these 1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:14.479 people they saw visualizing seeing it. It was a difference. 1:24:14.520 --> 1:24:18.280 He MTV wasn't showing what we was doing. They got 1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:21.559 a chance to people start seeing that the Beastie Boys 1:24:21.600 --> 1:24:24.320 didn't even wasn't on the radio. So they sold a 1:24:24.439 --> 1:24:27.960 million copies of records how because they was being seen 1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:32.040 on TV where we couldn't see it. Black folks and 1:24:32.160 --> 1:24:34.519 have cable. So let me ask you a question. Right, 1:24:35.880 --> 1:24:39.439 that was y'all hip hop? Right, and in my in 1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:43.800 my mind, I could be wrong, correct me anytime. But 1:24:43.920 --> 1:24:46.840 then NAS came out with his outum right, And when 1:24:46.920 --> 1:24:49.120 Nas came out of his album, in my mind, but 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:52.800 we had MTV, we had your MTV rats, we had 1:24:52.920 --> 1:24:59.360 Ralph McDaniels, we had more rights social to me, it 1:24:59.439 --> 1:25:01.519 felt like to me and I could be wrong, and 1:25:01.560 --> 1:25:05.120 you can tell me, Nori you're totally wrong, but I 1:25:05.240 --> 1:25:08.719 want I would love your opinion. When Nas that album 1:25:08.840 --> 1:25:11.960 came up, did it change the error like it changed 1:25:12.000 --> 1:25:14.240 the course of hip hop? You know, it changed the 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:17.120 east Side. It came back to it the east side. 1:25:17.840 --> 1:25:20.160 It helps what you just came back with the east 1:25:20.200 --> 1:25:23.400 Side to. Yeah. Yeah, Now you gotta talk that fly ship, 1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:27.559 that real ship, because this kid here is Banannas. If 1:25:27.600 --> 1:25:30.400 you ain't talking with this motherfucker talking about then you 1:25:30.600 --> 1:25:32.760 just making records. But if you're trying to be a hit. 1:25:33.360 --> 1:25:37.960 Follow this motherfucker right hit, and that's what's happened. Yeah, 1:25:38.040 --> 1:25:40.639 I feel I feel so hip hop right there, because 1:25:40.720 --> 1:25:47.280 that's exactly the way I would have answered that question. Yeah, 1:25:47.400 --> 1:25:51.920 now you're here, how are you? How are you doing? 1:25:52.600 --> 1:25:54.760 How are you doing? Black man? I'm good, you got 1:25:54.800 --> 1:25:59.120 you and you're looking good. And we made you change 1:25:59.120 --> 1:26:03.320 your shirt earlier. Keep it read. I didn't change it. 1:26:05.280 --> 1:26:10.759 Don't say why. I'm not gonna say why we got swamps. 1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:21.880 I don't so hip hop change my show. So hip hop, 1:26:22.080 --> 1:26:28.120 so hip hop. Hip hop gave so much to everybody, right, 1:26:30.280 --> 1:26:34.240 what does hip hop owe anybody? Well? Hip hop and 1:26:34.360 --> 1:26:40.360 owe me nothing? Really, because I mean hip hop anybody anything? Well, 1:26:40.400 --> 1:26:43.240 I doubt it because I've been around the planet and 1:26:43.880 --> 1:26:47.559 I'm not in the Army, never been in the army, Navy, Marines, 1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:51.760 and I've seen all I've seen. I've been around the planet. 1:26:51.800 --> 1:26:53.479 The only place I haven't been on this planet Earth 1:26:53.560 --> 1:26:57.080 is Russia. I've been the Russia. It's not great. It 1:26:57.160 --> 1:26:59.280 was the worst experience of my life, Okay, And I 1:26:59.320 --> 1:27:01.400 don't want to go. Don't go, trust me, don't go 1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:04.560 in Africa. In Africa, I mean, everybody said you gotta go, 1:27:04.920 --> 1:27:06.680 but I don't want to go because they say you 1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:08.519 gotta take needs, and I'm scared of it. I'm gonna 1:27:08.520 --> 1:27:11.880 be you gotta get you to come to the needs. 1:27:15.080 --> 1:27:17.240 So those are only two places I haven't been. I've 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:20.160 been in Australia, I've been Germany. I've been to London. 1:27:20.280 --> 1:27:23.680 I've been several places there with you right right, So 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:28.759 I've been everywhere. But other than that hip hop, donmely 1:27:28.800 --> 1:27:31.040 not because I saw the I saw the world to 1:27:31.120 --> 1:27:33.680 where I can come home and tell my friend, I 1:27:33.800 --> 1:27:36.560 understand why that Chinese person don't want to talk to you, 1:27:37.040 --> 1:27:40.519 because I understand. I've been to China to where it's 1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:43.840 like now I understand where I'm in America. Yeah, y'all 1:27:43.920 --> 1:27:47.280 got me now because I said, hey, you give me 1:27:47.920 --> 1:27:51.360 French fries and and you don't understand me to where 1:27:51.479 --> 1:27:54.720 you're in America. You just know shrimp fried rice and 1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:56.560 that's what you want, and they're gonna serve you that 1:27:56.960 --> 1:27:59.280 now when you ask for something different. I said, hey, 1:27:59.520 --> 1:28:01.960 do you know where Tony City at. I gotta go 1:28:02.040 --> 1:28:05.200 to the and they say shoes Shane change shang. Hey. 1:28:05.640 --> 1:28:08.560 I said that that way, Hey, that means no motherfucker. 1:28:11.120 --> 1:28:14.800 I'm going that way. He said, yeah, Hei, Hey, I'm thinking, yeah, 1:28:15.080 --> 1:28:17.920 that's the right way to go. That's the wrong motherfucker way. 1:28:19.280 --> 1:28:26.160 So you know, you learn. Yeah, so when you come 1:28:26.200 --> 1:28:29.120 back there and you go to certain places and say, 1:28:29.160 --> 1:28:31.880 all right, hold up, I'm respect everything you want me 1:28:31.960 --> 1:28:35.280 to do, so I get the right ship. You know 1:28:35.320 --> 1:28:37.280 what I'm saying, because at the end of the day, 1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:39.439 you ain't trying to listen to what they're saying. They're 1:28:39.479 --> 1:28:42.200 trying to talk to you decent. You still distance your 1:28:42.400 --> 1:28:45.040 this and them. They hear that ship, but you don't 1:28:45.080 --> 1:28:47.760 hear that ship they're telling you. So you know you 1:28:47.920 --> 1:28:51.519 have the bandage. So he's told us the truth because 1:28:51.600 --> 1:28:56.160 I kid you not. I know, I said the story earlier. 1:28:56.840 --> 1:29:01.599 But I went to the bike lane. Does bad bike lanes, 1:29:01.720 --> 1:29:03.720 So I stopped somebody in the bike lanes and you 1:29:03.760 --> 1:29:10.200 know what, to get cigars. The busy bee came downstairs 1:29:12.080 --> 1:29:15.599 and I was stressed. He looked at me, said, what's wrong? 1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:19.720 Little in my mind, that's what he said. I said, 1:29:20.680 --> 1:29:25.519 fucking cigars, no one please, And he said you want papers, 1:29:25.560 --> 1:29:28.479 because you have papers? What papers? I said, I'm a cigar, 1:29:29.600 --> 1:29:32.760 Come on and then they said follow me, and he 1:29:33.000 --> 1:29:37.799 and not only gave me right cigars, but he also 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:42.080 showed me that Marlborough Greens. It's new points in your 1:29:42.479 --> 1:29:48.960 right makes some noise to that said the same ship, 1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:54.360 the same word he said. He started smoking. He said, 1:29:54.880 --> 1:30:01.599 oh ship, don't give me another pack. I'm just thinking 1:30:01.840 --> 1:30:05.320 what I'm doing. They don't listen. Man, I can't appreciate 1:30:05.360 --> 1:30:07.160 you so much because the thing about it is this, 1:30:08.120 --> 1:30:11.400 But me and my partner, the e F started this podcast. 1:30:11.880 --> 1:30:16.120 We wanted to honor our legends. It wants to our pioneers. 1:30:16.240 --> 1:30:20.479 We wanted to honor the people that most people don't 1:30:20.520 --> 1:30:23.320 really look at and say, salute you and the people 1:30:23.400 --> 1:30:27.320 inspired us and the people that inspired us. So when 1:30:27.360 --> 1:30:30.519 we have a person like you in the building, busy 1:30:30.680 --> 1:30:33.840 want to be we want to salute you. I want 1:30:33.840 --> 1:30:35.880 to let you know how much you appreciate. I want 1:30:35.920 --> 1:30:43.280 to thank you all for the block party. I feel 1:30:43.360 --> 1:30:45.400 right part of you if I have that magnum too, 1:30:45.720 --> 1:30:47.960 because these two, those two it's going with like both, 1:30:48.439 --> 1:30:53.160 I feel right part time. No, we can't cop that. 1:30:53.160 --> 1:30:54.800 I'm gonna take this to the cribs like to keep that. 1:30:56.320 --> 1:31:05.280 I'm gonna dropping that right, drink that drink that busy Yeah, 1:31:11.920 --> 1:31:16.160 I gotta gotta give right yeah, justus to me, right yeah, 1:31:16.680 --> 1:31:18.200 right back to me and the wife. But we don't 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:20.720 got no more about us. Yeah, we gotta take a shot. 1:31:20.760 --> 1:31:22.560 We got take a shot down. Come on, take a 1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:26.000 shot and take a shot because Leon, come on with 1:31:26.720 --> 1:31:28.880 the shot glasses. Come on, brother, you've been looking at 1:31:28.920 --> 1:31:30.840 me the old time to make sure I'm good. And 1:31:31.080 --> 1:31:34.400 the shot glass part, you're not. You're not involved. He 1:31:34.520 --> 1:31:40.280 did not kill that, didn't you have a busy beat? Man? 1:31:40.560 --> 1:31:42.599 Let'm gonna tell yourself again. I thank you all man, 1:31:42.840 --> 1:31:47.000 and then I in mind like this, let's not get 1:31:47.080 --> 1:31:50.120 it twisted. I am hip hop and I have always 1:31:50.200 --> 1:31:54.599 existed throughout these physical forms and these new presents and times. 1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:58.160 I am still the chief rock a busy beat, and 1:31:58.280 --> 1:32:07.120 I want to thank y'all for y'all mother time. I 1:32:07.200 --> 1:32:09.160 want to pick up. I want to pick up my 1:32:09.280 --> 1:32:12.679 people zero minus, want the big up my people, Mike Booth, 1:32:12.720 --> 1:32:15.560 I want to pick up Chang Bang because at the 1:32:15.680 --> 1:32:20.160 end of the day, we didn't know that hip hop 1:32:20.280 --> 1:32:24.719 started out in the Bronx and Queen's all right because 1:32:25.320 --> 1:32:28.519 we listened to MC shann reckon right, and he said 1:32:28.600 --> 1:32:33.040 hip hop started out on the dock, and we thought 1:32:33.360 --> 1:32:37.360 we really did started there. But then when we did 1:32:37.439 --> 1:32:40.800 our research and we realized that it didn't start in 1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:44.840 the bronx. The only thing we can do as human 1:32:44.960 --> 1:32:48.760 beings is big that up right and sit there and 1:32:48.960 --> 1:32:52.599 prospect what it is. But let me let me finish. 1:32:52.640 --> 1:32:54.560 Because you know why I want you to let me 1:32:54.640 --> 1:33:02.080 finish is because all legends don't be so looting. Are 1:33:02.240 --> 1:33:11.800 legends never has looked upon as if as if they should. 1:33:12.920 --> 1:33:16.760 This is the problem with hip hop, busy be is 1:33:17.439 --> 1:33:21.400 when you get old, when you get whatever, these people 1:33:21.520 --> 1:33:25.280 wanted to tell you to go home, Let's change that 1:33:25.720 --> 1:33:27.240 me and you can do this. I tell you what. No, 1:33:27.360 --> 1:33:30.240 we're changing it right now, changing it right something. This 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:32.160 is what we're doing because you can. Let let me finish, 1:33:32.200 --> 1:33:37.679 busy me because you know why bus because and drink chips. 1:33:38.040 --> 1:33:41.360 You don't have a fucking age, you don't have a 1:33:41.520 --> 1:33:46.240 fucking liability. We're sitting here and we fucking respect off 1:33:46.880 --> 1:33:50.080 legends and we love them. Got on the yellow hat. 1:33:50.200 --> 1:33:56.880 I have no idea. Why just do that out there right? 1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:07.040 Ship hard yellow hats all for Busy Meat, You're one 1:34:07.080 --> 1:34:12.120 of the pioneers I see everywhere, and you always smiling, 1:34:12.680 --> 1:34:16.400 You're always happy, you always sit there and you show 1:34:16.520 --> 1:34:21.519 me love. And if I have a platform where I 1:34:22.080 --> 1:34:25.760 can give love back, efn could give a love back. 1:34:26.080 --> 1:34:31.760 There's no motherfucking way in the history of niggerdom that 1:34:32.240 --> 1:34:35.960 I will not have this platform and not show you 1:34:36.080 --> 1:34:40.480 the love that you fucking respect you deserve. I appreciate 1:34:40.600 --> 1:34:48.880 that and you fucking honored. We on behalf of all 1:34:48.960 --> 1:34:59.160 of us because the CN p CN Drink Champs, Murder Unit, 1:34:59.720 --> 1:35:05.280 so down, malitatement hood, crazy hug one left, Frack City 1:35:05.439 --> 1:35:11.719 right fifty seven and Vernon Boulevard, Tim Street, Twelfth Street. 1:35:13.040 --> 1:35:18.280 We all want to collectively come together and say, Busy Beat, 1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:22.600 we love you. We're going to continue to love you. 1:35:23.760 --> 1:35:26.000 And tonight I wanted you to be my guest host. 1:35:26.400 --> 1:35:30.760 I wanted him to help host rock him. But but 1:35:36.520 --> 1:35:40.320 but guess what that means, That that that that this 1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:43.320 is not gonna end. We're gonna continue to do it. 1:35:43.439 --> 1:35:51.599 It's sting race. What's the addressing race? Come over here, 1:35:52.120 --> 1:35:58.920 Come over here, Eve, We're gonna come here to stay 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:02.920 and hall and we're gonna do it because you know why, 1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:06.360 if the people ain't gonna respect all people, guess what 1:36:07.000 --> 1:36:10.240 them people, And we're going to continue to respect our 1:36:10.280 --> 1:36:13.120 own people. And busy Be, we want you to know 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:15.680 you could come any time you want to come, right. 1:36:16.320 --> 1:36:19.800 You can guess host, you can co host, you can 1:36:20.240 --> 1:36:23.240 bro host. I'm coming, man, you can do whatever you want. 1:36:23.360 --> 1:36:26.680 That's what I like, because you want to see the 1:36:26.960 --> 1:36:31.400 impact that this has when you on here. But we 1:36:31.600 --> 1:36:35.679 love you, busy Be, thank you. We will never ever 1:36:36.080 --> 1:36:41.760 ever stop loving you. And hip hop has to love 1:36:41.800 --> 1:36:55.439 you as well. That has one cocaine just so he 1:36:55.479 --> 1:36:59.080 got his give me my Oh my god, I feel 1:36:59.080 --> 1:37:08.639 like I got to relax. You're ready, shallow sallow, busy 1:37:08.760 --> 1:37:14.960 Bee to a great business. He killed that he give 1:37:15.200 --> 1:37:26.280 that Oh no death dearly y the other stuff this 1:37:26.400 --> 1:37:38.360 time cheese hang babydad that one. I feel like mug 1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:45.160 dark day. Hold on, we gotta let meet y'all to 1:37:45.280 --> 1:37:52.360 my going Swarty Dias where you at Monday. You go 1:37:52.400 --> 1:37:55.720 over there right right right, you gotta get right right 1:37:57.000 --> 1:38:03.240 one nig on Swarty Deans st Yeah yeah, big dud 1:38:03.280 --> 1:38:05.519 s putty thieves, rest in peace, mall and Brando. We 1:38:05.680 --> 1:38:17.360 love everybody makes him know salute, So what's going on 1:38:17.479 --> 1:38:20.559 my brother being a part of the legendary You were 1:38:20.600 --> 1:38:25.160 signed a boltor correct? No, we were signed to initially 1:38:25.800 --> 1:38:31.120 rough House, rocket Block Columbia initially, and then rough House 1:38:31.280 --> 1:38:34.960 dropped out and then it was Rocket Block Columbia. So 1:38:35.120 --> 1:38:39.600 how does it fail? Man'll be because you're still a 1:38:39.680 --> 1:38:42.560 hip hop legend. People, you gotta respect you asself. I 1:38:42.600 --> 1:38:44.960 don't know if for your legend, but what one thing 1:38:45.000 --> 1:38:46.800 that I want to say is rest in peace to 1:38:46.880 --> 1:38:50.519 my main, Malon Brando. We salute a lot of a 1:38:50.600 --> 1:38:55.040 lot of our falling heroes. Um my man Brando died 1:38:55.080 --> 1:38:59.479 a hero. A lot of people playing to that explain that, well, 1:38:59.640 --> 1:39:02.400 you know, we we should, we should look a lot 1:39:02.479 --> 1:39:09.439 of um hip hop heroes. Debt got murdered, my man 1:39:09.680 --> 1:39:13.760 died saving a child, God bless you know what I mean. 1:39:14.520 --> 1:39:16.400 So he's a hero, you know what I mean? And 1:39:17.320 --> 1:39:21.880 you want to detail that exactly how that happened. Well, um, 1:39:22.200 --> 1:39:24.519 so that would be somebody in the hip hop culture 1:39:25.000 --> 1:39:29.200 that represented we we we we we remember, I remember 1:39:29.439 --> 1:39:34.000 what what what what? Chris right right right and and 1:39:34.120 --> 1:39:36.600 be more right so so so so at the end 1:39:36.640 --> 1:39:38.479 of the day when when you say that that's one 1:39:38.520 --> 1:39:42.679 of the members of the group, they passed away, Okay, 1:39:43.720 --> 1:39:47.920 Chris hitting me with that. And so so when you say, um, 1:39:48.640 --> 1:39:50.759 because he is a member of the hip hop culture, 1:39:51.040 --> 1:39:54.680 you know, doubt and sporty Thieves are exactly that and 1:39:54.880 --> 1:39:58.040 and and we shout out that. But then you said 1:39:58.439 --> 1:40:03.080 that he did something, and my brother, he did a 1:40:03.120 --> 1:40:12.320 selfless a selfless, selfless act, which is super dope, super dope. Right. Unfortunately, 1:40:12.520 --> 1:40:19.680 the culture that we live in, right, Um, no, no, no, no, 1:40:19.960 --> 1:40:22.920 what what I'm saying is for hip hop, right, a 1:40:23.000 --> 1:40:28.000 lot of people get killed. It's part of it's part 1:40:28.040 --> 1:40:31.840 of the culture that we live. Right. For someone to 1:40:32.280 --> 1:40:37.400 to see a car coming, push a little kid out 1:40:37.439 --> 1:40:41.360 the way and take that head as super dope, that's 1:40:41.680 --> 1:40:47.479 that's super dope, you know what I mean. We didn't 1:40:47.680 --> 1:40:51.000 you know, sporty Thieves, chief skate Pigeons or all that. 1:40:51.160 --> 1:40:55.800 We didn't have a lustraous career whatever. But we have 1:40:55.960 --> 1:40:59.000 a we have a hero for hip hop, right, And 1:40:59.200 --> 1:41:01.519 that's what you know, I mean, that's not that's what 1:41:02.160 --> 1:41:11.400 and that's what k was gonna Happy birthday, King Kurt, 1:41:12.040 --> 1:41:14.320 you know, And what I gotta say to you because 1:41:14.360 --> 1:41:16.800 I feel like you need to hear this as well. 1:41:18.640 --> 1:41:21.519 You shouted us out on the podcast before when he 1:41:21.600 --> 1:41:27.560 was talking about the whole Um hip Hop Union and 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:31.280 all that, which was super dope, which we need, we need, 1:41:31.439 --> 1:41:33.600 we need. Well, I want to say it to you 1:41:33.760 --> 1:41:38.679 in your face. Okay, sporty thieves, you, your whole brother, 1:41:38.920 --> 1:41:44.360 your union, y'all appreciate it, of course. Right. We love yes, right, 1:41:44.520 --> 1:41:47.000 and we love hip hop's and we love hip hop 1:41:47.080 --> 1:41:50.000 and we love him, love love my brother. You know 1:41:50.040 --> 1:41:53.120 what I want to do is gonna make hip hop shoulders. 1:41:53.439 --> 1:42:02.960 I love you, and we also have wrong. Hold on, 1:42:03.000 --> 1:42:04.960 hold hold hold on, hold on. You know you know 1:42:05.080 --> 1:42:06.960 we did shows to give all that, y'all. I just 1:42:07.080 --> 1:42:09.519 want to say, yo, I'm proud of you, my brother, 1:42:09.880 --> 1:42:14.240 thank you. So I'm proud of you, my brother. Ya 1:42:14.760 --> 1:42:18.040 do your thing. Thank you. Someone up. We got robbed, 1:42:19.640 --> 1:42:23.840 and then I didn't let me tell you something, Cashana, 1:42:25.439 --> 1:42:30.439 let me tell y'all something. Robbing, busy. We're gonna going 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:37.519 rob robber love Puff Daddy and my mother has the 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:41.920 same fucking birthday, so I always text you two days 1:42:41.960 --> 1:42:46.080 before your birthday. I always be like season here. I 1:42:46.160 --> 1:42:50.080 always hit robbing motherfucking rob Love in the building and 1:42:50.240 --> 1:42:52.760 rob Love when he when he had it, he had 1:42:52.840 --> 1:42:57.599 it that he was holding us down. He's the artist, 1:42:57.640 --> 1:43:00.240 tapped me on the on the promo side, and we 1:43:00.439 --> 1:43:07.160 love girls a birthday bay like he loved a drink chap, 1:43:07.680 --> 1:43:11.439 thank you? How are you feeling? Robbingly great? Great? Nineteen 1:43:11.880 --> 1:43:17.400 nineteen and a half half holders, Let me have somebody 1:43:17.520 --> 1:43:26.559 rose day? Can we go a birthday shop? Birthday choice? Say? 1:43:26.600 --> 1:43:31.280 Don't you gotta be on my love? He DeLeon is 1:43:31.320 --> 1:43:38.040 good with me? Did he did? He don't work? Oh? Yeah, 1:43:38.040 --> 1:43:40.559 that's that's that's that's how I get it. You gotta 1:43:40.600 --> 1:43:46.080 take it. You're really good? Yeah, you know? Not a ticket? 1:43:46.479 --> 1:43:50.920 And I'm waiting. I represent so Did he changed his 1:43:51.040 --> 1:43:53.600 name the love of money? And probably so? Did he? 1:43:53.840 --> 1:43:56.160 Did he change his name in love? Did he change 1:43:56.200 --> 1:43:59.480 his names? I appreciate that. I respect that. I appreciate 1:43:59.560 --> 1:44:05.160 that well. I respect that is in front of you. 1:44:05.479 --> 1:44:14.160 And let everybody, everybody yo up. Yet I need some 1:44:14.280 --> 1:44:20.080 weights and my other trip joints, trip choice to change? 1:44:22.600 --> 1:44:29.720 You want to chalist another fuck? Chalice shot? Hold me 1:44:30.520 --> 1:44:32.599 so listen, let me tell you something let me tell 1:44:32.600 --> 1:44:37.439 you something. I gotta speak. I gotta speak single yea, 1:44:37.520 --> 1:44:42.040 y'all tell these be black days. They gotta relax. Holdup, 1:44:42.840 --> 1:44:49.240 got listen, go ahead. The fact is we are representing 1:44:49.360 --> 1:44:54.519 hip hop every single moment of our fucking show, and 1:44:54.680 --> 1:44:58.639 hip hop will be represented every single morning. Fucking shut 1:45:00.120 --> 1:45:04.559 robbing up. If we don't represent you, we ain't hip hop. 1:45:05.760 --> 1:45:08.559 Rob Love, we love you. I don't know why I'm 1:45:08.600 --> 1:45:21.920 taking another shot. That's not the business. Thank you? Got 1:45:22.000 --> 1:45:31.160 her not win. It's not good. At is amazing, but 1:45:31.240 --> 1:45:35.200 not right now. I'm sorry. That's not good. That's not 1:45:36.120 --> 1:45:38.800 what you did today. What's going on? What you to fight? 1:45:38.920 --> 1:45:40.559 You know what I'm saying. It was like the Tyson 1:45:40.680 --> 1:45:44.719 fight Blyn was real, real ship. You know what I'm saying. 1:45:45.640 --> 1:45:48.240 It was exciting, you know what I mean? First thing 1:45:48.439 --> 1:45:51.120 they'd got out let us actually actually, because you know 1:45:51.320 --> 1:45:54.920 this is industry ship. How did you get in the 1:45:55.400 --> 1:45:59.519 musically business? Rob Block? However, first and foremost, I wanted 1:45:59.560 --> 1:46:03.519 to be like y'all, I wanted to rap. You got right, 1:46:03.760 --> 1:46:10.439 I got bars. So what I'm gonna do it? Come on, brothers, 1:46:12.800 --> 1:46:15.400 come on the busy being him was doing the thing. 1:46:15.439 --> 1:46:19.720 I'm hunt the ropes, watching attention, said, sneaking up on 1:46:19.920 --> 1:46:25.920 the Bronx and all the last few bars. Yeah, but 1:46:26.120 --> 1:46:29.040 you know there was a better Bars out there, So 1:46:29.160 --> 1:46:33.120 I said, hey, let me go behind the scenes. You 1:46:33.160 --> 1:46:35.040 know what I'm saying. I know what the bars will do, 1:46:36.160 --> 1:46:37.800 But if you do it better than I do it, 1:46:38.120 --> 1:46:40.120 I'm gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna say no, 1:46:40.280 --> 1:46:41.960 I'm gonna do it, and I'm just gonna be better 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:44.560 than you. I'm gonna say, yo, I'm gonna let you 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:46.920 do it, but I'm do it this way or go 1:46:47.280 --> 1:46:48.760 or put it over here, you know what I'm saying. 1:46:49.600 --> 1:46:51.599 And that's how I kind of like caught the bug. 1:46:51.640 --> 1:46:53.000 And I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying. 1:46:53.040 --> 1:46:56.240 You need promotion, don't killing it, and then you need marketing. 1:46:57.160 --> 1:46:59.240 Then you need a budget, then you need a platform, 1:46:59.439 --> 1:47:02.439 then you need to able and you need T shirts. 1:47:02.520 --> 1:47:04.760 You need you know what I'm saying. You throw your 1:47:04.840 --> 1:47:07.519 dudes in the hoods and T shirts. That's definitely the 1:47:07.760 --> 1:47:11.479 greatest market and plan I've ever heard. Just he just 1:47:11.560 --> 1:47:14.960 broke down the whole market, the greatest marking, the plan ever, 1:47:16.040 --> 1:47:18.439 most and most most of most of the cats that 1:47:18.560 --> 1:47:23.200 worked with me a depth chance they were all rappers 1:47:23.479 --> 1:47:27.200 or producers, you know, kids old because on my team 1:47:27.760 --> 1:47:30.360 he started producing for the set. You know what I'm saying, 1:47:31.240 --> 1:47:34.639 you know, shock the zulus on my team. You're trying 1:47:34.640 --> 1:47:37.920 to say, you know what I'm saying, No, you know 1:47:38.320 --> 1:47:49.400 I helped it. We're not. You gotta pass. Tell them 1:47:49.400 --> 1:47:54.439 you made that? Bro to who you said? No, I 1:47:54.520 --> 1:48:00.080 didn't make that um getting together? No, no, No, that 1:48:00.200 --> 1:48:07.680 wasn't my doing, not at all. Just the energy, just 1:48:07.800 --> 1:48:10.280 the energy of the people that was you know, I'm saying, 1:48:10.360 --> 1:48:13.519 supporting the team. You know, you know went on to 1:48:13.600 --> 1:48:18.800 do different. What's your favorite hip hop rock? I don't 1:48:18.840 --> 1:48:23.639 think I reached it yet. He's optimistic now he's dope. 1:48:24.080 --> 1:48:26.280 You want to say that when you wasn't running around 1:48:26.320 --> 1:48:29.880 with death jam, that wasn't your favorite. I think that 1:48:30.080 --> 1:48:32.599 was my sleep ever, you know what I'm saying, because 1:48:33.160 --> 1:48:35.800 you know you were so pulled up, caught up in 1:48:35.880 --> 1:48:38.439 the passion of it. You know what I'm saying. You know, 1:48:38.840 --> 1:48:41.040 the light wasn't bright enough for me to be wake 1:48:41.200 --> 1:48:44.559 to see all the business things that opportunities that could 1:48:44.680 --> 1:48:47.600 and the other opportunity know we created other opportunities. But 1:48:48.200 --> 1:48:51.280 you know what I'm saying, Just like, just like hip hop, 1:48:51.520 --> 1:48:56.320 when people were putting Hennessy and different products into their lyrics, 1:48:56.760 --> 1:48:59.720 they didn't know that there was a check that they 1:48:59.760 --> 1:49:02.080 were supposed to get. Even the people that made Hennessey 1:49:02.120 --> 1:49:05.000 didn't know why they was, you know, selling a whole 1:49:05.040 --> 1:49:07.920 lot of more Hennessey for something apparent reason. I wasn't 1:49:07.960 --> 1:49:10.759 in their marketing and playing. That ship came from the streets, 1:49:11.400 --> 1:49:13.720 you know what I'm saying. So once they started evaluating 1:49:13.760 --> 1:49:18.800 the street, then they say, hey, the street guys that understanding, 1:49:19.439 --> 1:49:23.080 we need to for some money into them. And hip 1:49:23.120 --> 1:49:27.080 hop started eating everything that was. Let me get you, 1:49:27.360 --> 1:49:30.120 Robbed Love story, after you I got, I want to 1:49:30.160 --> 1:49:33.320 I have a personal busy beat. Come over here, busy 1:49:33.320 --> 1:49:44.320 you ain't got you gotta see yo. Look look let 1:49:44.400 --> 1:49:46.200 me tell you. Let me tell you Rob Love right, 1:49:50.000 --> 1:49:53.200 I had a record, Little Records. You're not gonna tell 1:49:53.280 --> 1:50:00.960 us home board. I came to party you had, you know, 1:50:01.040 --> 1:50:03.559 and I went to everybody and I played it to them. 1:50:04.160 --> 1:50:07.400 It was like, that's it go. When I went to 1:50:07.560 --> 1:50:13.600 Rob Love's office and I played it and Rob and 1:50:14.120 --> 1:50:17.560 you you can stop me anytime, Like, I played it 1:50:17.640 --> 1:50:22.400 for Rob Love. Now mind you, I'm supposed to play 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:25.839 it for le or I'm supposed to play for Kevin Liles. 1:50:26.640 --> 1:50:31.120 I came to Rob Love's office and Rob Love said, 1:50:32.240 --> 1:50:34.720 I played it for Rob Love. You tell me from 1:50:34.800 --> 1:50:38.479 lying at any moment. And Rob Loves said, we're going 1:50:38.520 --> 1:50:45.639 to flex tonight. You stopped me from lying at any point, 1:50:46.520 --> 1:50:49.360 and I said, damn, I kind of played for Leo 1:50:50.120 --> 1:50:59.479 and Kevin lives and Rob said, fuck him. Stop at 1:50:59.520 --> 1:51:03.360 the point you stopping me, I didn't say the check 1:51:03.479 --> 1:51:09.240 right now. He didn't say that. You know. I'm like, 1:51:09.439 --> 1:51:13.519 I'm freaking what happened? What happened was okay, what happened? 1:51:15.520 --> 1:51:20.360 You know? So you know, we just did came up 1:51:20.400 --> 1:51:24.160 the Grimy tour and we went all across the country. 1:51:24.720 --> 1:51:26.680 We should get up, shipped the streets up, you know, 1:51:26.760 --> 1:51:30.280 it was dark. And then we came back and it 1:51:30.400 --> 1:51:34.439 was trying to schedule the album. Right nobody stopped. No 1:51:34.640 --> 1:51:39.280 one was scheduling the album. And it was like, okay, 1:51:40.080 --> 1:51:43.240 he was no he was concerned. So I'm like, yo, 1:51:43.360 --> 1:51:44.680 what do you got? What do you got in your 1:51:44.720 --> 1:51:46.280 back pocket? And he was like, you know, I got this, 1:51:47.360 --> 1:51:51.280 let me hear it. So I throw it in. Two 1:51:51.400 --> 1:51:55.400 seconds later, I'm like, so I called flects automatically, just 1:51:55.600 --> 1:52:01.920 like I said. I was saying, yo, yo, if he 1:52:02.120 --> 1:52:08.680 got the record, that's ridiculous, let's be clear. He says, Yo, 1:52:08.960 --> 1:52:13.800 bring it to me. So at the time, now the 1:52:13.920 --> 1:52:21.960 station was a little off limits. What had happened. Happened 1:52:22.120 --> 1:52:24.679 was just shut out to happen. I have no idea 1:52:25.040 --> 1:52:28.880 that happened was but anyway, okay, he wasn't allowed to 1:52:28.960 --> 1:52:38.040 come into the hot night it was anyway. So we 1:52:38.120 --> 1:52:40.920 get to the station, We run out the building, you know, 1:52:41.200 --> 1:52:45.599 fools beat ahead. Get to the station and Flex opens 1:52:45.960 --> 1:52:50.479 a crap to the door, like a crap, like, YO, 1:52:50.920 --> 1:52:53.040 give me the record. So we just lit it through 1:52:53.080 --> 1:52:57.280 the crack of the door and we went back downstairs. 1:52:58.240 --> 1:53:00.439 So were listening, like you know what I'm saying. Seven 1:53:00.479 --> 1:53:07.920 o'clock comes, I mean, hunting going on. There's nothing going on, 1:53:08.840 --> 1:53:10.360 you know, it's like, yo, funk that I'm out in. 1:53:10.760 --> 1:53:13.680 So he leaves back. I said, I'm gonna get some mice. 1:53:15.040 --> 1:53:18.439 So and then basking Robbins getting mice, and then and 1:53:18.560 --> 1:53:22.040 then calls me like yo, you know listening to the radio. 1:53:22.760 --> 1:53:25.160 Why He's like, Yo, you're gonna turne on the radio. 1:53:26.880 --> 1:53:30.880 Flex was just talking for about half an hour straight, 1:53:32.000 --> 1:53:34.639 just telling people. I think this is where he probably 1:53:34.720 --> 1:53:36.839 got the YO. If you're on the West side, always 1:53:38.080 --> 1:53:40.439 if you, if you, if you, if you, if you're 1:53:40.479 --> 1:53:45.519 doing something right now. It was a different it was 1:53:45.640 --> 1:53:50.519 a different way right to announce this records. It was 1:53:50.600 --> 1:53:54.400 so disgust. He was telling this pole over so nigers 1:53:54.439 --> 1:53:58.400 don't deserve to be driving and still listen to this. 1:54:00.080 --> 1:54:04.680 So he's like, you're not going to commercial so he 1:54:04.760 --> 1:54:07.719 sucked up hot night. He's having money on the advertisement side. 1:54:07.760 --> 1:54:11.000 He's like, y'all listen, I was gonna talk about this 1:54:11.200 --> 1:54:16.200 record right now. And then he goes, Yo, Nori, I 1:54:16.360 --> 1:54:19.960 need the hold this. So now everybody you know was 1:54:20.080 --> 1:54:22.880 listening to Flex. Whenever you play there and drop bombs on, 1:54:23.720 --> 1:54:26.760 They're like, Yo, that ship better be in my inbox. 1:54:31.000 --> 1:54:38.200 Everybody's calling me yo, something just record because because Flex 1:54:38.360 --> 1:54:40.840 is playing my record and saying pick up rob Love. 1:54:41.680 --> 1:54:48.240 So now that's FLEXI, what's it mean? So did he 1:54:49.200 --> 1:54:53.600 was on me for the record right So when I 1:54:53.760 --> 1:54:55.880 was like when they pulled me in the office, Yo, 1:54:56.600 --> 1:55:01.680 what's up? He's just taking records going the radio. You 1:55:01.760 --> 1:55:05.080 think I can No, I didn't why because the world 1:55:05.120 --> 1:55:07.280 needed to hear that record. The world needed to hear 1:55:07.360 --> 1:55:09.800 what the funk I heard, which was nothing. Now that 1:55:09.880 --> 1:55:14.440 sounds crazy, hearing nothing but dash it. It was the 1:55:14.920 --> 1:55:19.120 boy listen to me. Rob looked at me and said, 1:55:19.480 --> 1:55:22.560 we gotta go tonight. This is I went and played 1:55:22.600 --> 1:55:26.680 the record for a while and then all the CEOs 1:55:26.800 --> 1:55:30.480 was like, this is this one? And then Rob Loves 1:55:30.640 --> 1:55:34.640 came to me and said, listen, funk everybody, we're going 1:55:34.680 --> 1:55:40.080 to flex tonight. I said sure because we had just 1:55:40.200 --> 1:55:44.160 got the master back, and Rob said, yes, we're going tonight. 1:55:44.960 --> 1:55:49.400 Fuck them and I could want of the centil Me 1:55:49.520 --> 1:55:53.640 and you was both in. He was so in trouble 1:55:53.680 --> 1:56:02.120 with that. I mean sure that there was no technically, 1:56:02.200 --> 1:56:09.720 you're definitely I'm getting the definitely blamed it on me. 1:56:10.160 --> 1:56:14.640 It was my idea, but they never ever ever complained 1:56:14.680 --> 1:56:20.720 about it. Because it worked and love that thou plus 1:56:20.920 --> 1:56:25.440 plays on commercial radio. It opened up the budget, the 1:56:25.520 --> 1:56:28.520 album was scheduled, he went on another tour. The money 1:56:28.840 --> 1:56:34.600 opened up. We just it was nothing, but we love you, 1:56:34.800 --> 1:56:37.120 We love you. For I want to take it down 1:56:37.160 --> 1:56:41.400 Twain notes because this personal actually a personal question. No, no, 1:56:42.040 --> 1:56:45.040 it's not that serious. Maybe maybe Revolt's not gonna probably 1:56:45.040 --> 1:56:54.560 air this party but online Virgil, But when when, um, 1:56:55.280 --> 1:56:58.680 when you hired us to be me to be the 1:56:58.680 --> 1:57:03.840 street team manage in Miami. Let me let me just yeah, 1:57:03.840 --> 1:57:08.040 because I'm gonna say, my brother, my younger brother, I'm 1:57:08.120 --> 1:57:10.720 the old man. We're born on the same day and 1:57:11.080 --> 1:57:16.680 you know, you know, but definitely w I don't even 1:57:16.720 --> 1:57:20.240 know where he's going with yeah, we just ship. If 1:57:20.280 --> 1:57:25.240 it wasn't definitely wasn't ship, so that my boy is 1:57:25.280 --> 1:57:27.240 good too. I ain't gonna you know, But there's my 1:57:27.360 --> 1:57:29.720 question because this is I've been debating this in my 1:57:29.920 --> 1:57:32.800 I don't know where this goes. I know when because 1:57:32.800 --> 1:57:36.640 I was working the Tommy Boy account when when there 1:57:36.720 --> 1:57:40.200 was a penalty and when he moved over, he told me, 1:57:40.240 --> 1:57:42.320 I'm gonna bring you over. I want you to work 1:57:42.560 --> 1:57:46.960 my ship deaf Jam but also my homie rest in peace, 1:57:47.000 --> 1:57:50.000 Doc Fresh Yes, and a matter of fact, his birthday 1:57:50.120 --> 1:57:54.840 is today too. That is my brother. And he told 1:57:54.880 --> 1:58:00.720 me also, e, I'm gonna give you the account. So 1:58:01.080 --> 1:58:03.320 so I want to know because it's it's like, I 1:58:03.360 --> 1:58:06.920 don't know how did it happen? Was it a combination 1:58:07.000 --> 1:58:09.800 of both? I can tell you yeah, absolutely, I'll tell 1:58:09.800 --> 1:58:12.840 you exactly what happened. But let me just salute Eugene, 1:58:13.200 --> 1:58:18.240 Doc Fresh, Robinson and fact green Eyes shut out him, 1:58:18.880 --> 1:58:26.839 DJ will trust Miami. And the interesting thing about Doc Fresher, 1:58:27.880 --> 1:58:30.640 he told me he had a rapper fat Man Promotions, 1:58:30.840 --> 1:58:33.840 his fat Fat Man promotion. He told me he had 1:58:33.880 --> 1:58:36.040 a rapper that he wanted me to look at because 1:58:36.080 --> 1:58:38.160 he he knew that he'd be a great fit for 1:58:38.240 --> 1:58:41.720 death tim And before I can go down and sign 1:58:41.800 --> 1:58:46.240 floor rider, Doc Fresh passed away. So rest in peace 1:58:46.280 --> 1:58:51.720 to darc Fresh Fat Man Promotions. But to answer your question, yes, 1:58:52.240 --> 1:58:57.840 he said to me. He said to me, uh, he 1:58:58.000 --> 1:59:02.000 said to me, if anybody has a car parked on 1:59:02.120 --> 1:59:11.040 Fifth Avenue goes down, I got a marathon tomorrows, just 1:59:11.160 --> 1:59:13.920 talk to me. Let me, let me tell you, let 1:59:13.960 --> 1:59:15.840 me tell you, let me tell you what happens. It 1:59:15.960 --> 1:59:23.760 was a combination of freshest approval without a doubt, and 1:59:24.040 --> 1:59:29.200 definitely you know, because me and Norri were so insnct 1:59:29.560 --> 1:59:34.240 on what was needed to win. If I needed that 1:59:34.320 --> 1:59:35.920 a you know what I'm saying, like that was a 1:59:35.960 --> 1:59:38.839 no brainer. You know, if he was cool and comfortable 1:59:38.880 --> 1:59:41.880 with you, he was cool and comfortable with me, his 1:59:42.040 --> 1:59:46.000 people with my people. So that's how it was. So whenever, 1:59:46.760 --> 1:59:50.160 you know what I'm saying, it was like, yo, who 1:59:50.240 --> 1:59:53.480 you quit? I rock with here, Fenn. But let me 1:59:53.560 --> 1:59:59.080 describe that moment. Listen that moment I had. I had 1:59:59.160 --> 2:00:03.440 the record. I knew the record was crazy. I went 2:00:03.520 --> 2:00:09.120 to Rob Loves office and I said, Rob, and then 2:00:09.240 --> 2:00:12.200 Lee all and everybody said, I like to other version. 2:00:14.840 --> 2:00:17.600 I played it, but now Leo doesn't hear this version. 2:00:18.280 --> 2:00:21.440 Kevin lives is heard the version, the only version horror. 2:00:21.520 --> 2:00:24.840 The version is just me and Rob blah. So I 2:00:24.960 --> 2:00:28.120 come and play. Rob says to me. He looks at me. 2:00:28.240 --> 2:00:31.360 He says, nobody heard this. I said, nobody heard this. 2:00:32.400 --> 2:00:35.440 He says, are you ready to love? And I knew 2:00:35.520 --> 2:00:39.000 he meant we could get a dropped if it doesn't work. 2:00:40.560 --> 2:00:44.120 If it doesn't work, we can all go down the 2:00:44.800 --> 2:00:49.280 worst river we ever went down. But he looked at me, 2:00:49.360 --> 2:00:52.040 he said, you sure you love it. I don't even 2:00:52.080 --> 2:00:55.120 remember if he actually listened to the record. He looked 2:00:55.160 --> 2:00:59.080 at me and said this is it, Yeah, this is 2:00:59.120 --> 2:01:07.320 it Flex to Night. I did not agree with him 2:01:07.480 --> 2:01:10.200 at all, but I wanted to be like yes. I 2:01:10.320 --> 2:01:14.680 was like yes, Flex to Night, and we went to 2:01:14.800 --> 2:01:20.400 Flex one but said I never agree with anything that Rob. 2:01:22.720 --> 2:01:26.600 That's the first time I'm even telling you, And Rob said, 2:01:26.760 --> 2:01:29.680 funk that if you believe it. I really did believe 2:01:29.720 --> 2:01:33.240 in the record. I didn't agree with going to Flex 2:01:33.400 --> 2:01:38.320 at that moment. And then this after This is the 2:01:38.360 --> 2:01:42.040 beautiful thing about that record is Flex played it three 2:01:42.160 --> 2:01:45.920 times and you can tell Flex didn't listen to No 2:01:46.480 --> 2:01:49.280 three times when he played He just played it. He 2:01:49.440 --> 2:01:52.800 just going like this, and then the third time he goes, 2:01:53.680 --> 2:01:59.840 hold up, Rob Nor, you motherfucker's really kind of reck 2:02:02.320 --> 2:02:06.920 and then he played it for three more hours and 2:02:07.080 --> 2:02:09.560 they all looked at me and Rob Love prior to 2:02:09.720 --> 2:02:12.880 that and said, you motherfucker's don't ever come back to 2:02:13.000 --> 2:02:16.040 the belt. Then I got a question for you, you know. 2:02:17.000 --> 2:02:20.880 And then after Flex played it sixteen times, it said 2:02:21.360 --> 2:02:26.920 be in the building, first thing in the wall, because 2:02:26.960 --> 2:02:28.680 you put your job on the life for me, and 2:02:28.800 --> 2:02:31.280 I did it every fucking day I walked into that building. 2:02:31.400 --> 2:02:34.560 Man if if I didn't believe in what I was doing, 2:02:34.960 --> 2:02:38.200 then I would say, fire me if I didn't believe 2:02:38.640 --> 2:02:43.520 in you know, the Red Man mascot, and fucking fire me. 2:02:44.240 --> 2:02:47.839 I'm saying, if I ain't believe in Rapping Shine's Phantom, 2:02:48.640 --> 2:02:52.080 then fire me. So so all this the ship that 2:02:52.720 --> 2:02:54.640 I did while I was there, I believe, I really 2:02:54.720 --> 2:02:57.200 believed in it, and you know, and I stood behind it. 2:02:57.800 --> 2:03:01.680 But I gotta question for you when you, okay, when 2:03:01.760 --> 2:03:05.320 you was recording that record, right, because this is kind 2:03:05.360 --> 2:03:10.320 of hey, it's kind of dumble meaning right, hey, it's 2:03:10.360 --> 2:03:13.800 called nothing, and then your lyrics were it was about 2:03:13.880 --> 2:03:22.520 nothing exactly, so so I just thought it was genius. 2:03:23.240 --> 2:03:28.080 Oh god, no I was. I got ain't got on 2:03:28.160 --> 2:03:31.920 my nerves. So he told me to do something that 2:03:32.040 --> 2:03:37.280 I did it and that's it. You gotta relax, tell me, 2:03:37.320 --> 2:03:43.720 I gotta relax. Tell me. I got your new single, 2:03:43.840 --> 2:03:51.640 Cayenne Baby, what's up? Make it to the baby? Happy birthday, 2:03:52.480 --> 2:03:56.200 Rob Love, thank you, appreciate it. I love the dream. Cheers. No, 2:03:56.400 --> 2:03:59.600 we love you. We love you. We're wrapping up family. 2:03:59.720 --> 2:04:02.520 We I'm not dead while we're still here in seventeen 2:04:02.600 --> 2:04:06.080 hours later. We've been here since this o'clock. We're doing 2:04:06.120 --> 2:04:10.120 what we gotta do Tall TV. We love y'all and 2:04:10.240 --> 2:04:13.240 this is how we gotta do it. Happy Birthday, one love, 2:04:13.440 --> 2:04:15.720 and y'all want to take another shot, I'm in. I'm 2:04:22.320 --> 2:04:26.720 kill next shots were building