1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Take a look at Draftking shares kind of up one percent. 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: It's been a choppy session after the company reported fourth 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: quarter results announcing that they would buy the lottery app 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: jack Pocket for seven hundred and fifty million dollars in 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: a cash and stock deal. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Delighted to say to walk us through the. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: Numbers, CEO Jason Robbins, Actually where I want to start, Jason, 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: and good morning to you. There's a note out from 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Morgan Stanley that says the results in the court are 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: gone were impacted by unfavorable sports results, and it just 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: goes back to the idea that that there's a marketplace 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: you operate. 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: What do you make of that, Well, I. 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 3: Think that you know, when you're taking action on sports, 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 3: then sometimes you're subject to those outcomes, and sometimes they 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: swing the better's way, and sometimes they swing the books. 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: Where this happened to be the worst two week stretch 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: of I should say, the most customer friendly two weeks 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: stretch of outcomes we've seen since becoming a public company. 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 3: And you know that happens over the course of time. 22 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: It certainly swings, you know, either way, and it evens 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: out but in a quarter, you know, you can get 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: bit and in this case, we had just issued guidance 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 3: and reaffirmed it in our investor day literally the week before, 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: and so you know sometimes that happens timing wise, But 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: if you adjust for that, the underlying fundamentals of the 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: business were incredibly strong. I mean, that was why we 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: were able to raise our guidance for this year by 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 3: so much. On the revenue side, we increased our adjusted 31 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: even the guidance by fifteen percent. That was really due 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 3: to a record customer acquisition quarter as well as really 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: strong engagement from our existing players. 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: So the M and A piece was really interesting, and 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: you know, I guess do you just see it as 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: a new market that you wanted to move into. What 37 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: was the motivation there? 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: Well, we did some analysis to directly compare our customer 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: base with theirs, and there was significant overlap. So we 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: feel good that it's an audience that really crosses over 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: and with actual CRM and real cross sell marketing, we 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 3: think we can increase that significantly. 43 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: The other thing we saw. 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: Was that the customers that overlapped actually spent more by 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: about fifty percent with DraftKings on average, and the customers 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: who did not overlap with Jackpockets audience. So not only 47 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: is there good crossover, it's also a higher value customer 48 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: that we can cross sell. 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to like there. 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: And we think this really, you know, this is all 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 3: about CAC and LTV. 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: That's the nature of the business. 53 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: How do you get the customers on the platform as 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: efficiently as possible, and then how do you engage them 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: and keep them and get the highest LTVs over time 56 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: as possible. And so anything that helps on either side 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: of that equation, let alone both like this does I 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: think really will strengthen our ability to compete and win 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: in the US online gaming industry. 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: And so that's really what it's about. 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 3: That's our focus, and we feel like this is a 62 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: huge step forward for that. 63 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: Tell us about the equation that you have to decide 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 4: on whether to build or buy. Why buy in this occasion, Jason. 65 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: Well, the team that we got is incredible. Pete in 66 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: his team are really sharp and understand this market and 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: understand this customer better than anyone I've ever met. Also, 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: the technology they've built is hard. You know, it's not 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: easy to build a system that can scale to fulfill 70 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: in multi state and this type of setup, so really 71 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: that is tough. We looked at, you know, potentially different options, 72 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: and we felt like this team was the best, and 73 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: also the technology they built is the best, so well. 74 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: I certainly think there's always different ways to approach things, 75 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: and of course we think we got a good deal. 76 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: Too, that always part of it. But I think there's 77 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: always different ways to. 78 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: Approach things, and in this case, we felt like the 79 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: combination of the team we were getting and the technology 80 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: they've built was just too good to pass up. 81 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: Talking of different ways to approach things, and we are 82 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: indeed speaking with Jason Robbins, Draftking CEO to our TV 83 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: and radio audiences. What about this new sports streaming? What 84 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: about Disney getting into bed with Fox with Warner Brothers. 85 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 4: What do you make of it? Do you think you'll 86 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: get through the regulators? 87 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: Well, it'll be really interesting to see. 88 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, I'm not surprised that you're 89 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: seeing deals like that. Obviously, we've seen the media industry 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: get really disrupted by streaming, and sports has sort of 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: been that thing that everybody's kind of still waiting to see. 92 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: How does this evolve, how does this shake out? 93 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 3: And so You're going to continue to see more innovation, 94 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: more disruptive deals, and. 95 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: You know where it all shakes out. I don't know. 96 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: If I did, i'd be you know, I'd be making 97 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: more bets on those spaces than I am. 98 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: But it's not our world. 99 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: We're kind of watching and waiting to see and I think, 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: you know, usually in those situations, opportunities to partner with 101 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: new interesting ventures can emerge. 102 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: So we'll have to see how it all shakes out. 103 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: But certainly a fascinating time in the sports media space. 104 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: Jason, what's the next step in DraftKings technology story? 105 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: Now? What is it you want to do with the 106 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: platform and what do you want build? Well? 107 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: First, I think we still have a lot to do 108 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 3: to just continue to create an incredible product in OSB 109 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: and I gaming for our customers, Jack Pocket. Hopefully when 110 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: we close that that'll be something that there's a lot 111 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: of runway. They still have only launched Scratchers in one 112 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: or two states and a lot more to go there. 113 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: I think, so tons to do on the product side, 114 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: just to continue to build out and reach a wider 115 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: audience and also provide more interesting things for people to 116 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: engage in. 117 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,239 Speaker 1: I think on the sports betting side. 118 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: Live betting and game betting continues to be a big 119 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: untapped opportunity. We're seeing it naturally increase, and that's without 120 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: I think a lot of the core piece of the ecosystem, 121 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: like broadcast latency totally figured out across sports, So a 122 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: lot of room i think still to grow in many 123 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 3: areas of the product, and we're going to continue focusing 124 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: on the customer, listening to what our customers say and 125 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: try and deliver a great experience for them. 126 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: Jason Robbins always great catching up with you. Thanks so much,