1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: I am all in again. Oh that's just you. I 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Smell pop Culture with Eastern Allen and iHeart radio podcast. 3 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: The hills are live with the sound of Gilmore. Hey, everybody, 4 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: it's Easton Allen. It's I Smell pop Culture. That's right, baby. 5 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: We are dancing through the lush, green hillsides of podcast land, 6 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: and we are going to do something really, really fun 7 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: here this week. If you're just joining us, if you're 8 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: just landing here for the first time, if you dropped 9 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: out of the sky, you don't know where you are. 10 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: You don't know who I am. Don't worry about that. 11 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Who I am does not matter. I am an enigma, 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: I am a mystery. I'm a force of nature, and 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I am here to take you through the pop culture 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: references in Gilmore Girls, of which there are a plenty 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: of which there are diverse and interesting, complex our references 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: all over history, all over the world, music, movies, songs, celebrities. 17 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: We are going to take one or two of them 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: and go put it under the microscope, dive deep, figure 19 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: out who made this a pop culture reference? How do 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you become a pop culture reference? How do you take 21 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: a movie, a piece of media and elevate it to 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: the point where something as incredible as Gilmore Girls is 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: referencing it. A few months ago, we talked to Don 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: Most who is Ralph Mouth on Happy Days, and Happy 25 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: Days stands out because it is the most referenced show 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: in Gilmergirls. They referenced it like a million times. But 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't have the exact data, but coming up second 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: or at least top three, has to be the Sound 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: of Music. Check this out. The Sound of Music was 30 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: referencing Gilmore Girls. I'm counting here one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: eight times, everybody eight times. I hope you have a 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: pen and paper out Season two episode six, Season four, 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: episode ten, Season five, episode eleven, seven, Season five episode twenty, 34 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Season six episode fifteen, Season seven episode four, Season seven, 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: episode twenty, and fall on Netflix. Sound of Music is 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: all over the place in Gilmore Girls. Amy Sherman Palladino 37 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: absolutely loved this musical. She loved it. It's all over 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: the place. We're not going to go through every reference here, 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: but we are going to highlight this one from season two, 40 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: episode six, presenting Laura like Gilmour. You probably remember this 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: is at the very beginning of the episode Lorlai and 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Rory are at Emily and Richard's house and they meet 43 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: the new maid, Lisel, and Lorlai introduces herself and Rory 44 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: as two of the Von Trapp children from Sound of Music. 45 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Lurlei says you're new, and Lisa says, oh, sorry yesterday, 46 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and lour Lea says, what's your name? The maid says Lisel, 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: and Lourally says, okay, Lisel, I'm Brigita. This is Gretel, 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: and Emily and Richard are expecting us. And Brigita and 49 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: Gretel are two of the von Chapped children from Sound 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: of Music. Check this out, everybody, brace yourselves. We are 51 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: going to talk to Brigida herself. Brigida von Trapp played 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: by Angela Cartwright. Angela Cartwright such a star and icon. 53 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: She was lost in space after she did Sound of Music. 54 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: She was in sounda Music when she was eleven years old. 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: This movie won five Academy Awards. It's celebrating its sixtieth 56 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: anniversary this year. How incredible is that we are going 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: to talk to Angela right now. She is I can 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: see her in the waiting room. Now she is doing 59 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: She's spinning across the Austrian Alps. Right now, she's running 60 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: around in the waiting room, and I'm going to let 61 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: her in so we can get some of this magic 62 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: here on the podcast. Angela, thank you so much for 63 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: doing this. 64 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: Wow, it's my pleasure to be here. 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Okay, well, I have so many questions 66 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: for you. I read a Tiger Beat interview with you 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: from September nineteen sixty seven. Those Tiger Meta interviews are great. 68 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: I love it. But you're like, I think you're like 69 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen when you did this interview, and you 70 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: sound like a seasoned veteran actor, Like the stuff you 71 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: had done to that point is just tremendous and astounding. 72 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: You started when you're three years old, is that right? 73 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: That's right I did. I started when I was three. 74 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: That's incredible. I mean literally growing up on sets. I 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: mean that, what a wild childhood to have. 76 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy, especially because it was totally by accident. I 77 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: was born in England. It was the farthest thing from 78 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: what my parents ever imagined for Veronica and myself, that's 79 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: my sister, and we came here to live by the 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: beach and the dream of coming to America. I mean, 81 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: we immigrated through Canada. Took us a year and we 82 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 2: arrived and it was just like my fate was already 83 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: laid out for me and I started working right away, 84 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: as did my sister, who looked all American with freckles, 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: and we just you know, kind of took off it. 86 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 2: It was just kind of crazy. 87 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: It's so nuts, I mean, And again I watched I 88 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: love that this is out there by the way. I 89 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: watched the screen test you did for Sound of Music, 90 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: and it's so fun to watch because like you're in 91 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: such command of the character already, and I have to 92 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: remind myself, like you're eleven years old, and I'm just like, 93 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm like you were, You're just born to do this. 94 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: But again, with so much Sound of Music stuff to 95 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: talk about, did you were you a singer before that role? Like, 96 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: what's your singing background? You have such a beautiful voice. 97 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. I did sing I took you know, 98 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 2: singing lessons. I was on the Danny Thomas Show for 99 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: seven years and they have me do some singing on 100 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: that show. I did some singing. I did some dancing. 101 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: Of course. You know the song the Balan k Yes 102 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: or my album Angela Cartwright sings. 103 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I have been trying to get that my hands on 104 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: that album for a while now. Okay, I'm in an 105 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: eBay war right now with somebody. 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: The thing that's so heartwarming about that is I do 107 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: two songs with my dad who's no longer with us, 108 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: and one is Starlight, Starbright. Every time I hear it, 109 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: I cry. The other one is he is the Voice 110 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: of Mister Jumbo, which was a show on The Danny 111 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: Thomas Show where they all thought I was making up 112 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: this person that was like really tall and everything. Cute 113 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: story anyway, that was so I did sing, I sang, 114 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: I danced. You know, I took lessons doing that tap 115 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: dance ballet. But you know, it all kind of came 116 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: naturally really to me. So I guess it was my 117 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: dad did sing when he was younger, so maybe that 118 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: was part of it. 119 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: It's just you don't see that kind of performer anymore really, 120 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: like like someone like like you just have such a 121 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: command of of just being an entertainer and like hearing that, 122 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: like all this stuff just came naturally the God. Some 123 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: people are just touched by God to do this stuff. 124 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: It's really really incredible stuff. Now, Brigita von Trapp. What 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: a role, Like, I'm so curious how that developed and 126 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: like what you went to Austria for three months? Is 127 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: that right to film that? To film Sound of Music? 128 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Danny let me out of my 129 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: contract so that I could start the Sound of Music. 130 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: Because we had been on our seven years, he'd been 131 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: on eleven. He wanted to try other things producing and 132 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: stuff like that. He let me out of the last 133 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: show so that I could be Brigita. I auditioned with 134 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: everybody else, you know, I went on an interview, I 135 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: had to sing, I did this screen test. I felt 136 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: you say that, you know, it just felt like I 137 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: had command of it. Brigita was me. I mean I 138 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: did test also for Louisa with a blonde wig, which 139 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: was the older one. But I always just really felt 140 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: like she was an old slipper, you know, I just 141 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: put her on and she had curiosity. She you know, 142 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: was faultless to tell the truth several times in the movie. 143 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: So I felt like it was very much me, and 144 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: I think Robert Wise kind of felt that also. You know, 145 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: I did have dark hair. I'm glad they didn't make 146 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: me die my hair. They did with Nicholas who played Frederick, 147 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: and also Louisa Heather. But it was good because Chris 148 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 2: Palmer had dark hair, so I think it kind of 149 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: made it more real. He made that the children relatable, 150 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: which I don't think in the original play they were 151 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: as relatable. They were just these little mechanical children. And 152 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: that has a lot to do with why this movie 153 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: is so successful. 154 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And like I remember being a kid watching sound 155 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: of Music and connecting so much with your your character. 156 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: The other children, they're they're really stand out and they're 157 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: just such a shining part of that movie. Yeah, So 158 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: what was filming it like? Because like it's when you 159 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: adapt like a stage musical to a movie, it's so 160 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: much of that performance comes through. I mean what, like 161 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: you had to rehearse a million times? I'm sure, Like, 162 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: how did that go? 163 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: We did? We rehearsed for a good couple months before 164 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: we even were in front of the camera. They just 165 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: don't do it like this anymore. We knew those songs inside. 166 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: Now we went in the studio, we recorded with a 167 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: full orchestra. For me, it was heaven. I had been 168 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 2: on a show with an older boy, Rusty Hamer, who 169 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: you know, used to trip me up and pull my 170 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 2: hair and stuff like that. And so for me, I 171 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: instantly connected with Heather, who was the one that played 172 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: the older sister. The two of us were absolute Beatle 173 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: fans and we just connected and it was just a blast. 174 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: We became instant friends, and so we were kind of 175 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: on this adventure together. 176 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: You know. 177 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: We went to this country where you know, we did 178 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: our school work and outdoors on the lawn and then 179 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: we would go and do field trips to all the 180 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: places in Austria. It was just it was such a 181 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: wonderful year out of my life. It was just great. 182 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: I love hearing that. That makes me so happy because 183 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: because that's as a fan, that's what I want to hear, 184 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, oh god, what if it 185 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: was terrible or something? You know, that makes me so 186 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: happy now. Julie Andrews, I'm like working with her. First 187 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: of all, I wanted is there anything about her that 188 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: might that you know, that might shock us, Like did 189 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: she like eat a lot of TUTSI rolls or something? 190 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Is there anything weird about Julie Andrews that we need 191 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: to know? 192 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: You know, we connected as kids to her being our 193 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: fraud line right in the beginning. It just come off 194 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: of Mary Poppins, and she taught us all those songs. 195 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: Between takes, she would, you know, we would, we would 196 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: sit around and sing. I loved her. I think it 197 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: was a part of strategy that she had this connection 198 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: with all of us, But sometimes that leaves when a 199 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: movie is over, and we've continued to, you know, stay 200 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: in contact and and be a part of her a life. 201 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: I mean, this movie catapulted her to you know, the 202 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: success that she well deserved. What a voice. But we 203 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: were there for the Lifetime Achievement award that she received, 204 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 2: and she was so gracious and so lovely. And afterwards, 205 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: you know, we talked all of us and she asked 206 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: how we were doing. And that is who she is. Now. 207 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: Can I say anything bad about her? Well, I hear 208 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: she swears, although I don't remember her swear all out 209 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 2: of that, but bless her heart, No, she was. She 210 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: was lovely but not saccharine, not funny at all, straightforward 211 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: shooter wanting to do a good job, showing up, professional, 212 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: knew her lines and embraced all of us, which made 213 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: the movie so magical. 214 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: I love I love hearing that I love that so much. 215 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: Now. 216 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: The sound of music is about like a relationship between 217 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: mothers and mother figures and their children, which is also 218 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: inherently what this is a Gilmore Girls podcast, what Gilmore 219 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Girls is about. And it sounds like you had that 220 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of connection on set with Julie. Did you feel 221 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: those themes as you were making the movie, like, like 222 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: relationship between mothers and children. Was that something that affected 223 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: you when you were making it. 224 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't think I really thought of it that way. 225 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 2: I mean, we're on the set with us because you 226 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: have to have a guardian, and my mom was always 227 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: there through all my childhood. While I was on the set, 228 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: I think we always thought of her as our fraud line. 229 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: I think we really did. She just you know, was 230 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: it wasn't like, you know, we hung with her, you know, 231 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: all day long. But when the movie was over, she 232 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: threw a pool party at the house she was living 233 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: at at the time in Los Angeles, and I remember 234 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 2: she gave Heather and me a Beatle book that was 235 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: Love Letters to the Beatles or something. 236 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: I still. 237 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 2: Signed it in the in front. And you know, she 238 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: was just endearing to us. So I can't say anything 239 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 2: bad I'm not going to make up anything because she 240 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: was you know, she was just a lovely human being 241 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: and believing. I think she still is. Yeah. 242 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Well, now I have to know who's your favorite Beatle. 243 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: Oh it was Paul, of course. 244 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved Paul. Heather liked George, but I just 245 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: loved Paul, and I just the music just resonated with me. 246 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 2: I just loved it. I remember the day that my 247 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: sister ran down the stairs in the house with this album. 248 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: If you remember the very first Meet the Beatles album, 249 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: they all had kind of red hair if you really bad. 250 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that. 251 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: Actually, Oh my gosh, I got my album from KRLA, 252 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: you know, and we put it on and just loved it. 253 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: And my parents loved Beatle music too, which I think really, 254 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: you know, made it kind of interesting. We always had 255 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: music on in the house, so that was nice that 256 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: we could play that. 257 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a special thing to share with your parents, 258 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: I know, especially like with the Beatles, that was a 259 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: divisive thing in a lot of families. 260 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: Oh the hair, it was my dad did say, I 261 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: just wish they would get a hair, Okay, Dad, I mean, 262 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: now we look at that with all the things and 263 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: the trends that have gone through with the haircuts and 264 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: stuff like that. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But 265 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: you know, in those days in the sixties that was 266 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: so long hair was like, you know, you were renegade 267 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: or something. I don't know. 268 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: It's so funny too, because like you look at every 269 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: picture of them when like the long hair days, and 270 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: they were like they're still like wearing suits and stuff, 271 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: like they looked great. They're just like they had this 272 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: crazy hair. Oh, I know, is there a memory from 273 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: making the Sound of Music that, like what was the 274 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: most challenging part of making that movie that you can remember? 275 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: I guess being away from my family for so long 276 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: because we were only supposed to be gone I believe 277 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: about a month. Oh and my mom I had a 278 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: two year old brother. Yeah, and my mom was very brave. 279 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: She had never been a part for my family. We're 280 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: very close knit. And you know, went to Austria and 281 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: the rain was pretty bad in Austria and changed a 282 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: lot of the shoot days. Actually interesting, so all the 283 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: outside stuff was done there and when it was the 284 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: sun was out. It was glorious, you know. But Robert Wise, 285 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: who was our director, he did have a lot of 286 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: challenges with the weather, and I think probably that was 287 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: the most difficult part. My parent, my dad, my sister, 288 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: and my brother did fly over. I'm sure my mother 289 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,359 Speaker 2: was terrified of the three of them being in an airplane. 290 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: It did come over and stay with us. I'd have 291 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: to look in her little diary. She had this little 292 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: tiny diary where she wrote a sentence, you know, of 293 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: every day special, which is so it's so wonderful to God. 294 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: I love five year diaries anyway. They're one of my 295 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: special little things that I love. Just a word here. 296 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: It's so much fun to look back, yes, Ben, and 297 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: what you've done. And I don't know when they came 298 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: and when they left. I'm sure it's in there and 299 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: I should look that up. But that was really great. 300 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: I remember we were all together then, and then my 301 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: sister had to fly back because she was gonna play 302 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: Jemiah in Daniel Boone show. She had gotten the Daniel 303 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: Boone Show. And I remember her writing me because who 304 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: called in those days and saying, guess who was on 305 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: our plane? Ringo star was on the plane when they 306 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: went home. Oh, I was so ghouous. 307 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, wow, I mean, how proud must your 308 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: parents be and like your parents weren't in show business? 309 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: Right? 310 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: They like no, wow, And then both her daughters just 311 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: get catapulted to start him incredible. We were hanging out 312 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: with Angela cart Right, the star of the Sound of Music. 313 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: We have so much more to get into. This is 314 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: the Ice Smell Pop Culture podcast. Stick around, everybody, just 315 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: a few commercials here, it's Ice Smell Paul Culture. My 316 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: name's Easton. We're hanging out with Angela Cartwright, Righetta von Trapp, 317 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: herself from the Sound of Music. She is here, she 318 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: is real. We're doing this. The hills are alive with 319 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: the Sound of Music. Well, I know you've been asked 320 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: this a trillion times, and I apologize, but I just 321 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: have to know what was your favorite like sequence make 322 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: to film for that movie, Like, was there a specific 323 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: song that you really enjoyed performing? 324 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: Well, i'd have to say, and you know what, kind 325 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: of blurred The lines are kind of blurred because I 326 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: love do Riingney. I think it's just brilliant and if 327 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: you think about it, nothing like that had ever been 328 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: done before that time. Robert Wise kind of did the 329 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: first music video we shot in all these different locations, 330 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 2: just little snippets of the song. You know, here we're 331 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: in a carriage. Here we're at the market. You know, 332 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: here we're running down you know, the archway in Marabell Gardens. 333 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: We went all over the city and just did the 334 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: one line. Can you imagine all the setups? But Robert Wise, 335 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know. That's maybe a lot 336 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: of people don't is that Robert Wise was an editor 337 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: before he was a director. 338 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: I did not know that. 339 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually edited Citizen Kane, so he, in his mind, 340 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: I think, knew how it was going to go together. 341 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: He did a storyboard. You know, we didn't know. We 342 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: just you know, they'd say, okay, now you're going to 343 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: sit in this carriage and you're going to go dome 344 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: me me, me, me so so you know, and we'd like, oh, yeah, 345 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: we know that part because we'd rehearsed it so many times, 346 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: you know. The shot on the steps was was so 347 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: funny about this. When I go back to Austria and 348 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: I usually go every year, I lead a tour there 349 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: actually every year, and we go to all the locations 350 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: and I talk about my memories and it's really fun. 351 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: It's through crap oh, that's gonna be great. 352 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: But that routine on the steps, I can still remember 353 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: it today. It's like if you were you know, when 354 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: you were in school and you had to do like 355 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: drill team or something, you know, and if you remember 356 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: doing that routine or the cheerleading routine at the football game, 357 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: it's it just is there. I mean, I just can't 358 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: forget my part. It's crazy. That was quite intricate, actually, 359 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 2: that that whole scene. But they had built fake steps 360 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 2: back at twentieth Century Fox before we even left or 361 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: started filming, and so we practiced on those steps so 362 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: long farewell we had practiced. I like that song too. 363 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: I also love a device the song. I think it's 364 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: so moving and so pure and just a beautiful song. 365 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: It's like when you look at the songs from the 366 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: Sound of Music, it's just like it's it's it's staggering, 367 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: like like every single song is not just like not 368 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: just a good song, but the best musical songs of 369 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: all time, Like when the earth is a barren rock 370 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: floating through space, there will still be a record player 371 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: playing like my favorite things, you know, Like it's this 372 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: I cannot believe it. And the fact that You're part 373 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: of this legacy. Is just is so incredible. Sixty years 374 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: of the Sound of Music this year that is so awesome? 375 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? And I'm only fifty No, yeah, sixty 376 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 2: years and you know, we just the five of us. 377 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: We've lost two of our members sadly. But the five 378 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 2: of us just returned from Florence, Italy. Wow, where they 379 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: showed the Sound of Music at the Teatra nicol Leni, 380 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: which is one of the oldest theaters in the world. Wow. 381 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: And they've totally restored it and they played it for 382 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: an Italian audience that it was packed, and they put 383 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: Italian subtitles and then they asked us questions afterwards. And 384 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, you realize the reach of this movie. It's worldwide. 385 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's huge in South America, and it's huge, 386 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 2: you know, all over the United States of course, and Europe. 387 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: And the only place it's not as huge is Austria yourself. 388 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Interesting, I know, isn't that odd? That's fascinating. 389 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's reasons for that. But I think the 390 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: sixtieth we are going back there in October where the 391 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: five of Us are going to celebrate at the Salzburg gala, 392 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: which is a huge celebration. The place where we shot 393 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: the last scene, the festival scene. Wow, it's still there. 394 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: It's still a huge theater. It used to be open air, 395 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: but now it's got a roof on it. That's the 396 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: only change in sixty years. Maybe they're more comfortable. I 397 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: don't know, but that's going to be a thrill. I'm 398 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: really looking forward to to flying there and doing that. 399 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: That would be really really fun celebration. Wow. 400 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that will be great for anyone that gets to 401 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: attend that, And I can't wait to hear about it 402 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: all when you get back. Well, I mean, yeah, it's 403 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: just such the legacy lives on. It's one of those 404 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: things that like if you pull just a random young 405 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: person off the street and like start naming movies from 406 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: the sixties, they're probably you know, they might not know 407 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: that many, but if you say sound of music, they're 408 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: going to know, like the Hills are, Like they could 409 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: sing at least one, two, three songs from that movie. 410 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: It's just one of those things that are like I 411 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: think it's burned into the DNA of a popular culture forever. 412 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of things about that statement. First, 413 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: of all, in school, if you're in theater at all, 414 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: you probably have played one of the kids in the movie. 415 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: There are seven roles after all, along with all the 416 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: nuns and you know, you know, you captain, so there 417 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: are many roles to that, and it's usually done in 418 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: all the schools. So that's one thing. The other thing 419 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: is the songs itself, I think have kind of it's 420 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: skipped generations. So the moms and the dads, they maybe 421 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: you know, you maybe had to take dad the first time, 422 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: but then they loved it afterwards. It becomes a Christmas thing. 423 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: It becomes an Easter thing all the time. I hear 424 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: we always gather for, you know, Christmas, and we should 425 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 2: put the movie on. I also hear that when people 426 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: are kind of down and out and don't feel great, 427 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: or maybe they're recovering from something, they always put on 428 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: the sound of music. It lifts their spirits. So, you know, 429 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 2: Rogers and Hammerstein. It was the last thing I think 430 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: that Rogers wrote, or it might have been Hammerstein, don't 431 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: quote me on that, but it was brilliant. It was 432 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: brilliant music and I Am Confident was a new song. 433 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: And also something Good was a new song. That they 434 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: wrote for the movie. 435 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: Oh wow, I did not realize that that's I mean, 436 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: those are great songs. Yeah, yes, definitely, so you do 437 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: sound of Music. It's just this incredible experience. The movie 438 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: wins five Academy Awards, and then what do you go 439 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: directly into Lost in Space? Is that like the next 440 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: thing you do? 441 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: It went directly into Loss in Space? I did. I 442 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: went on. I was called into Irwin Allen's office. He 443 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: was a big fan of me in Danny Thomas show. 444 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: And I went in the office and he went, oh, 445 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: thank goodness, I thought you'd come in smoking a cigar. 446 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: That was Irwin. He was strange, but I mean, I 447 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 2: think he kind of mixed up that Danny used to 448 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: smoke cigars and how old I was going to be. 449 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: I might have been a lot older, but I was 450 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: kind of perfect for the part of Penny, and I 451 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 2: didn't have this fascination with space, even though Penny was 452 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: much braver than me. And I think it was another 453 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: really interesting combination of people. You know, we started off 454 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: a very serious, dramatic show and it kind of elevated 455 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 2: itself because Jonathan Harris became a very popular kind of 456 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: character and I loved Jonathan what. He was great, best 457 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: story teller I've ever met, but he knew that he 458 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 2: would be written out of the show if he didn't 459 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: create some character, and Doctor Smith was kind of his 460 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: creation and people, you know, it kind of went into 461 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: a more cult kind of show, kind of you know, 462 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: kind of weird and kind of funky and corny. But 463 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: it was the time of Batman and that came on 464 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: to the screen totally in color and you know, poo 465 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 2: and bam and all of this crazy stuff, so it 466 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: kind of fit in with that genre more than a 467 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: more serious show did. 468 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I personally loved the space that of the space 469 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: that it occupied because it was just like it was 470 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: so stylized and it was cool science fiction, but it 471 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: was also it was a lot of fun. The robot 472 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: looked so cool. I loved. You know, I'm I'm hearing 473 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: a Kiss FM in Los Angeles and I was walking 474 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: up on the halls of kind of going like, I'm 475 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: talking to Angela car right today, I'm talking and everyone 476 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: everyone's like starts poking their head out of their office, like, 477 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: oh my god. I had such a crush on Penny 478 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: on Lost in Space. You're talking to Penny. Yeah, so 479 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: that made me a hero here at the office. But 480 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: it really everybody like latched onto that show. And yeah, 481 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: and there's you know, they're they're doing reboots of it. 482 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: There's there's new versions of it. Everyone saw. That's another 483 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: one that like really stands the test of time. I 484 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: think is Lost in Space. 485 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know at the time when we haven't been 486 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: to the moon, it was dream that people were like, 487 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 2: what's beyond what's in the stars? You know, with star 488 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: trek and stuff. So I think, excuse me, he grab 489 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: the imagination of a lot of people. 490 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know for me it did. 491 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: I thought, what is there on other planets? You know? 492 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: And I'm supposed to be this genius zoologist. I don't 493 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: know that, but I love that. And I had my Bloop, 494 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: my Debbie, who I dored. So it was it grabbed 495 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: a lot of people's imaginations. And then they rebooted it, 496 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: and I think the first one, the first movie, lost 497 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of the magic that was part of it. 498 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: But the second one, which Kevin Burns, who was such 499 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: an advocate for the show, bless his heart, he's the 500 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: one that kept all those Irwin Allen shows going he's 501 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: no longer with us. Sadly miss him a lot, but 502 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: he had something to do with that Netflix show. I 503 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: mean he got it, he got who the characters were, 504 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: and I thought it was wonderful. That second one, I 505 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: thought it was you know, it was quite the twist, 506 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: and I love seeing Bill in there. Bill should have 507 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: been in the first one. I don't know why they 508 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: didn't that. I mean, there was an older Will. What 509 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: better could you get them? The real Billy? 510 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: Really? I mean, why wouldn't you go for that? 511 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I never got that myself. But the 512 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: second one I thought was great and it's still out 513 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: and I got to be a little cameo in that. 514 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: Did you know that I did it? I was going 515 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: to ask you, say, you had a cameo in that one. 516 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, like kind of a wicked person. I mean, I'm 517 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: the reason those people were so screwed up. I loved it. 518 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 2: It was a small part, but I loved being a 519 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 2: part of it. 520 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: And I knew the fans would love that also, absolutely, 521 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: and the you know, the Lost and Space fans are 522 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: very passionate, and I know that they love seeing the cameo. 523 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: I saw that reaction online that was just such a blast. 524 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: Angela Cartwright, You're just the coolest person who has ever 525 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: walked to the earth. We love hanging out with you. 526 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: I have one more question for you, and this is 527 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: kind of weird, I apologize, but what does pop culture 528 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: smell like to you? Like, if you had to describe 529 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: the scent of pop culture, how would you describe it? 530 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: Oh? I think probably petrick door, which is the smell 531 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: after rain as if the ground. That's probably the smell 532 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: to me. 533 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: I that gave me chills my hair that I love 534 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: that answer. That's great. 535 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's one of my favorite things. I 536 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: love pop culture. That's great. 537 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: Well, you are an indelible part of pop culture and 538 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: we appreciate your contributions. Thank you for bringing Brigida to 539 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: life in the movie and everything you do for the fans. 540 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: We just appreciate it so much. You're You're the best, Angela. 541 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: Thank you again for doing this. 542 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: Thank you lovely. Talking to you 543 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Everybody, and don't forget Follow us on Instagram at I 544 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: Am all In podcast and email us at Gilmore at 545 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio dot com.