1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:08,388 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,308 --> 00:00:26,908 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. What's up? 4 00:00:27,028 --> 00:00:27,908 Speaker 3: Joe and Audio? 5 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:29,148 Speaker 4: We love you, buddy. 6 00:00:29,508 --> 00:00:32,868 Speaker 3: Welcome into gmt B. We're live in LA and New York. 7 00:00:32,908 --> 00:00:34,948 Speaker 3: When we have so many people at the table, you 8 00:00:35,028 --> 00:00:37,268 Speaker 3: got to make sure everybody can hear and we can 9 00:00:37,348 --> 00:00:39,908 Speaker 3: hear them. It's a beautiful day. I'm Jamie or at all. 10 00:00:39,908 --> 00:00:41,588 Speaker 5: You know the O g's in the back, Peter Schrager 11 00:00:41,588 --> 00:00:43,428 Speaker 5: and Kyle Brant, they're holding it down to New York. 12 00:00:43,588 --> 00:00:46,948 Speaker 5: We got veteran fullback Jason Cabinda at the table again 13 00:00:46,988 --> 00:00:47,828 Speaker 5: today running you back. 14 00:00:47,828 --> 00:00:48,108 Speaker 2: What's up? 15 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:50,988 Speaker 3: Cabinda doing great? He's back at the building. 16 00:00:50,988 --> 00:00:52,828 Speaker 5: And now you are the veteran at the show because 17 00:00:52,868 --> 00:00:57,748 Speaker 5: Isaac Rochelle at the table today, veteran defensive lineman feeling great. 18 00:00:57,788 --> 00:01:02,988 Speaker 6: I wish that a name is cool as. 19 00:01:00,948 --> 00:01:02,388 Speaker 3: I know it's the best name ever. 20 00:01:03,268 --> 00:01:07,228 Speaker 5: It's rightfully so, Isaac, you recently retired? 21 00:01:07,388 --> 00:01:07,988 Speaker 3: Is this correct? 22 00:01:08,028 --> 00:01:10,948 Speaker 5: Can you just give us a twelve second synopsis on 23 00:01:10,988 --> 00:01:13,708 Speaker 5: the Isacroschelle football experience top tier? 24 00:01:13,828 --> 00:01:16,068 Speaker 6: I mean, first off, retirement, By the way, you can't 25 00:01:16,068 --> 00:01:18,268 Speaker 6: call it retirement when you have a one year old daughter. 26 00:01:18,308 --> 00:01:21,188 Speaker 6: But yeah, I had a great experience, thankful for everything 27 00:01:21,228 --> 00:01:21,908 Speaker 6: that I got out of it. 28 00:01:21,988 --> 00:01:22,668 Speaker 3: Notre Dame guy. 29 00:01:22,748 --> 00:01:24,908 Speaker 5: We'll get to it with Isaac Rochelle and Cabinda, but 30 00:01:24,988 --> 00:01:27,988 Speaker 5: first let's check in with Ian Rapoport, because already somebody 31 00:01:27,988 --> 00:01:28,588 Speaker 5: in my years. 32 00:01:28,628 --> 00:01:29,188 Speaker 3: Keep a movment. 33 00:01:29,548 --> 00:01:32,308 Speaker 5: Tom Pellisaro's there too, gentlemen, where we stand with a 34 00:01:32,348 --> 00:01:34,228 Speaker 5: couple of the biggest names in the game. Rap Sheet 35 00:01:34,228 --> 00:01:38,068 Speaker 5: start us off with the latest on of course Aaron Rodgers. 36 00:01:39,068 --> 00:01:42,188 Speaker 7: Yeh, Dave Ford and we're still waiting for Aaron Rodgers 37 00:01:42,228 --> 00:01:44,148 Speaker 7: or day one hundred, I don't know, it's whatever. And 38 00:01:44,268 --> 00:01:46,628 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers is certainly in his own world right now, 39 00:01:46,908 --> 00:01:49,508 Speaker 7: is in Australia, actually walking on the beach. 40 00:01:49,308 --> 00:01:51,388 Speaker 2: As was captured by a tabloid. 41 00:01:51,148 --> 00:01:53,748 Speaker 7: Taking his time short and through options, trying to make 42 00:01:53,748 --> 00:01:56,828 Speaker 7: a decision. As we've talked about two strong options. He 43 00:01:56,828 --> 00:02:00,908 Speaker 7: has the New York Giants who expressed interest and essentially 44 00:02:00,988 --> 00:02:03,828 Speaker 7: told him that they want him to be their guy. 45 00:02:03,908 --> 00:02:06,428 Speaker 7: He has to Payburgh Steelers, who's in the same situation. 46 00:02:06,428 --> 00:02:07,908 Speaker 7: I don't get a sense that it's going to come down 47 00:02:07,948 --> 00:02:11,948 Speaker 7: to money. It does seem like wherever Rogers chooses. The 48 00:02:11,988 --> 00:02:14,188 Speaker 7: money has worked out, that will take care of itself. 49 00:02:14,188 --> 00:02:16,148 Speaker 7: It's not gonna be an issue. It's just where does 50 00:02:16,188 --> 00:02:18,748 Speaker 7: he want to play? It's just simply whose team does 51 00:02:18,788 --> 00:02:19,788 Speaker 7: he want to be quarterback of? 52 00:02:19,948 --> 00:02:21,148 Speaker 2: And that does seem to be. 53 00:02:21,148 --> 00:02:24,348 Speaker 7: Tom holding up everything right now. The backup plan for 54 00:02:24,508 --> 00:02:28,508 Speaker 7: both of these teams seem to be Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson, 55 00:02:28,508 --> 00:02:31,228 Speaker 7: by the way, has some quarterback visits coming up. He 56 00:02:31,348 --> 00:02:34,148 Speaker 7: starts with the Cleveland Browns today as the New York 57 00:02:34,228 --> 00:02:37,508 Speaker 7: Giants tomorrow. It is rare, very rare that we see 58 00:02:37,748 --> 00:02:41,748 Speaker 7: a player take a non medical visit during free agency. 59 00:02:41,908 --> 00:02:44,628 Speaker 7: Used to be something like ten years ago, now really. 60 00:02:44,428 --> 00:02:46,268 Speaker 2: Does not happen. Russell Wilson knows. 61 00:02:46,148 --> 00:02:48,628 Speaker 7: He's got time, probably because Aaron Rodgers is in Australia, 62 00:02:48,948 --> 00:02:51,588 Speaker 7: so he wants to make sure that he is diligent 63 00:02:51,668 --> 00:02:54,548 Speaker 7: in his search as well. The only interesting thing here is, 64 00:02:54,748 --> 00:02:57,628 Speaker 7: let's say the Browns visit goes so well they decide 65 00:02:57,628 --> 00:03:00,788 Speaker 7: to try to sign him. Does that speed up the process? 66 00:03:00,988 --> 00:03:02,708 Speaker 7: We'll find out Tom later today. 67 00:03:04,468 --> 00:03:07,068 Speaker 8: It's also rare to see a wide receiver the caliber 68 00:03:07,108 --> 00:03:09,988 Speaker 8: of Cooper Cup dropped onto the market on the first 69 00:03:10,068 --> 00:03:12,388 Speaker 8: day that free agency officially is open. But that's what 70 00:03:12,508 --> 00:03:15,828 Speaker 8: happened yesterday. After trying to figure out if there was 71 00:03:15,868 --> 00:03:20,468 Speaker 8: a trade opportunity for Cooper Cup, the Rams officially released 72 00:03:20,508 --> 00:03:23,748 Speaker 8: Cup after four pm Easter time yesterday, which allowed them 73 00:03:23,748 --> 00:03:26,548 Speaker 8: to use a post June one designation, meaning an accounting 74 00:03:26,588 --> 00:03:28,748 Speaker 8: trick that frees up a little bit more twenty twenty 75 00:03:28,748 --> 00:03:31,268 Speaker 8: five half space. Now, the reason that they could not 76 00:03:31,308 --> 00:03:33,428 Speaker 8: trade Cup, there's several of them. He's thirty one years old, 77 00:03:33,668 --> 00:03:37,148 Speaker 8: he's missed times with injuries three consecutive seasons, and he 78 00:03:37,228 --> 00:03:39,468 Speaker 8: was due to twenty million dollars. It's hard to get 79 00:03:39,468 --> 00:03:41,788 Speaker 8: teams one of those circumstances to take on all that 80 00:03:41,988 --> 00:03:45,388 Speaker 8: salary and give up a draft pick. However, now the 81 00:03:45,428 --> 00:03:48,068 Speaker 8: Cooper Cup is officially a free agent, you don't have 82 00:03:48,108 --> 00:03:51,028 Speaker 8: to worry about the draft pick compensation. He is going 83 00:03:51,068 --> 00:03:53,708 Speaker 8: to have a significant market. I can tell you the 84 00:03:53,748 --> 00:03:56,628 Speaker 8: Cooper Cup and his agent, Ryan Toldner already have been 85 00:03:56,668 --> 00:03:58,628 Speaker 8: in communication with multiple teams. 86 00:03:58,828 --> 00:04:00,708 Speaker 2: We'll see how quickly this moves. 87 00:04:00,788 --> 00:04:03,868 Speaker 8: Is an important move for Cooper Cup at this stage 88 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:06,068 Speaker 8: in his career, but in any year where there's not 89 00:04:06,148 --> 00:04:08,508 Speaker 8: a lot of top tier wide receivers in the draft. 90 00:04:08,668 --> 00:04:10,628 Speaker 8: There was really not a lot of top tier wide 91 00:04:10,668 --> 00:04:14,468 Speaker 8: receivers available in free agency. Cooper Cup should be able 92 00:04:14,508 --> 00:04:17,948 Speaker 8: to find a new suitor whenever he's ready to take 93 00:04:17,988 --> 00:04:18,388 Speaker 8: that lead. 94 00:04:18,588 --> 00:04:21,708 Speaker 5: Tom Ian, it's fantastic stuff and a Cooper Cup would 95 00:04:21,708 --> 00:04:23,788 Speaker 5: be a great addition to any team. Listen, when you 96 00:04:23,868 --> 00:04:25,548 Speaker 5: run these teams, gentlemen, thank you. 97 00:04:25,548 --> 00:04:26,228 Speaker 3: You want to be in. 98 00:04:26,108 --> 00:04:29,228 Speaker 5: Control of every little thing. Peter, if you are the 99 00:04:29,268 --> 00:04:31,508 Speaker 5: Giants and the Steelers, you are fully out of control 100 00:04:31,588 --> 00:04:34,708 Speaker 5: right now with this Aaron Rodgers decision making tree, Peter, 101 00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:37,588 Speaker 5: is there a certain moment in this timeline that you 102 00:04:37,628 --> 00:04:40,388 Speaker 5: feel like the teams should just move on? Or how 103 00:04:40,388 --> 00:04:43,188 Speaker 5: do they navigate this with this one quarterback and two 104 00:04:43,228 --> 00:04:44,148 Speaker 5: teams that need them. 105 00:04:45,468 --> 00:04:48,588 Speaker 9: This is the dance partner you're dancing with. He's going 106 00:04:48,668 --> 00:04:50,548 Speaker 9: to go at his own timeline and you know that. 107 00:04:50,668 --> 00:04:55,068 Speaker 9: Going in yesterday, widely it was reported that Rogers are 108 00:04:55,068 --> 00:04:56,868 Speaker 9: going to have some decision by the end of the day. 109 00:04:56,868 --> 00:04:58,348 Speaker 2: I was on our show Good Morning Football, im. 110 00:04:58,268 --> 00:05:00,668 Speaker 9: Like, this might take a week, this might take two weeks, 111 00:05:00,748 --> 00:05:02,788 Speaker 9: this might take three weeks, four weeks, and it's being 112 00:05:02,788 --> 00:05:04,388 Speaker 9: sarcastic about two week three weeks four. 113 00:05:04,548 --> 00:05:05,908 Speaker 2: But it certainly wasn't going to happen on. 114 00:05:05,908 --> 00:05:08,668 Speaker 9: The timeline of NFL reporters in the New York market 115 00:05:08,788 --> 00:05:11,308 Speaker 9: or NFL reporters in the Pittsburgh market. It's going to 116 00:05:11,348 --> 00:05:15,108 Speaker 9: happen on Aaron Rodgers's timeline. And the Giants and Pittsburgh 117 00:05:15,108 --> 00:05:17,668 Speaker 9: Steelers are two of the most historic franchises with a 118 00:05:17,668 --> 00:05:19,868 Speaker 9: ton of pride run by families. 119 00:05:19,948 --> 00:05:21,828 Speaker 2: These are families that run these Is it not. 120 00:05:21,788 --> 00:05:25,308 Speaker 9: Some conglomerate or private equity or some newfound wealth. 121 00:05:25,068 --> 00:05:28,268 Speaker 2: That was made in the Wall Street. This is families 122 00:05:28,388 --> 00:05:30,588 Speaker 2: who have decades and decades. 123 00:05:31,268 --> 00:05:36,628 Speaker 9: Do they like waiting? Well, here's the alternative. You move on, 124 00:05:36,988 --> 00:05:39,348 Speaker 9: you bring someone else in that's your second choice. And 125 00:05:39,388 --> 00:05:42,308 Speaker 9: what was really sacrificed. You didn't get a fourth string 126 00:05:42,348 --> 00:05:45,508 Speaker 9: wide receiver, You didn't pick up your nickel corner that 127 00:05:45,588 --> 00:05:48,028 Speaker 9: might play on special teams. If I'm looking at the 128 00:05:48,028 --> 00:05:50,748 Speaker 9: Steelers and the Giants and this is holding up any 129 00:05:50,788 --> 00:05:53,228 Speaker 9: sort of transaction that they really want to do but 130 00:05:53,308 --> 00:05:56,188 Speaker 9: they just can't, well then fine, you can make that 131 00:05:56,308 --> 00:05:58,788 Speaker 9: line in the sand and say, look, we're giving ourselves 132 00:05:58,788 --> 00:06:01,468 Speaker 9: till three pm today and if we don't hear from Rogers, 133 00:06:01,468 --> 00:06:01,988 Speaker 9: it's time. 134 00:06:01,868 --> 00:06:02,308 Speaker 2: To move on. 135 00:06:02,908 --> 00:06:05,748 Speaker 9: But really, both those teams made their big moves already 136 00:06:05,868 --> 00:06:08,628 Speaker 9: besides quarterback, and usually you get the quarterback first and 137 00:06:08,628 --> 00:06:13,028 Speaker 9: you build around it. In this case, DK Metcalf, Javon Holland, 138 00:06:13,028 --> 00:06:16,228 Speaker 9: those were big swings, those were big moves. Giants and 139 00:06:16,228 --> 00:06:19,188 Speaker 9: Steelers still already got them done. Do you move on 140 00:06:19,228 --> 00:06:22,428 Speaker 9: to Russell Wilson. Well, it's such a contrast Aaron Rodgers. 141 00:06:22,668 --> 00:06:25,508 Speaker 9: We don't know what his timeline is, We don't even 142 00:06:25,588 --> 00:06:28,068 Speaker 9: know what his numbers necessarily have to be hit. 143 00:06:28,348 --> 00:06:30,348 Speaker 2: And this is how he's going to dictate the situation. 144 00:06:30,588 --> 00:06:33,668 Speaker 9: Russell Wilson is getting on a plane himself and flying 145 00:06:33,708 --> 00:06:35,148 Speaker 9: to Cleveland today to be like, I want to be 146 00:06:35,148 --> 00:06:37,308 Speaker 9: a quarterback man, I just want to play football. That 147 00:06:37,388 --> 00:06:39,468 Speaker 9: might resonate, but at the end of the day, you 148 00:06:39,548 --> 00:06:42,268 Speaker 9: made your board, you major list, and both those teams, 149 00:06:42,308 --> 00:06:45,428 Speaker 9: the Steelers and the Giants, they had Rogers above Wilson. 150 00:06:45,588 --> 00:06:47,348 Speaker 2: There's a couple of days of waiting gonna matter. 151 00:06:47,788 --> 00:06:50,348 Speaker 9: Maybe I also think it's gonna come from those teams 152 00:06:50,388 --> 00:06:51,988 Speaker 9: internally to have to draw a line in the sand. 153 00:06:52,028 --> 00:06:53,628 Speaker 2: And I don't see that happening right now. 154 00:06:53,628 --> 00:06:55,668 Speaker 9: They've already waited this long, they might as well wait 155 00:06:55,668 --> 00:06:57,228 Speaker 9: as long as it takes to get their quarterback. 156 00:06:57,508 --> 00:06:59,868 Speaker 1: I agree with Peter, and I agree wholeheartedly. And this 157 00:07:00,068 --> 00:07:03,428 Speaker 1: don't buy into any timelines at all. If you're potentially 158 00:07:03,548 --> 00:07:06,748 Speaker 1: entering your twin first NFL season and you're a guy 159 00:07:06,828 --> 00:07:09,228 Speaker 1: like Rogers who is a wise ass and who is 160 00:07:09,468 --> 00:07:12,548 Speaker 1: very cynical about the media, I think you get bored. 161 00:07:12,548 --> 00:07:14,308 Speaker 1: And I think he like messing with the media, and 162 00:07:14,348 --> 00:07:16,068 Speaker 1: I think he's done it for years, and I think 163 00:07:16,068 --> 00:07:18,028 Speaker 1: he gets off on it, and I think he likes this. 164 00:07:18,228 --> 00:07:20,748 Speaker 2: And when I see him standing there in the. 165 00:07:20,708 --> 00:07:23,708 Speaker 1: Sand contemplating, you know what, I think. I think the 166 00:07:23,828 --> 00:07:25,868 Speaker 1: ultimate mess with the media, which is take a few 167 00:07:25,868 --> 00:07:29,228 Speaker 1: more days and say, you know what, bye bye, I'm done, 168 00:07:29,348 --> 00:07:31,748 Speaker 1: I'm walking around, I'm not playing anymore. That would be 169 00:07:31,788 --> 00:07:37,188 Speaker 1: the ultimate Aaron Rodgers walk off and we're waiting Giants, Steelers, Giants, Steelers, Vikings, Giant. 170 00:07:37,548 --> 00:07:39,908 Speaker 2: No, I'm actually gonna walk away after twenty seasons. 171 00:07:39,908 --> 00:07:42,908 Speaker 1: And in terms of his reasons for coming back, why 172 00:07:43,068 --> 00:07:45,348 Speaker 1: is he coming back again? Like I want to make 173 00:07:45,348 --> 00:07:48,028 Speaker 1: sure I say this, I don't think he knows what 174 00:07:48,068 --> 00:07:50,428 Speaker 1: he wants to do after football. That's just my opinion. 175 00:07:50,748 --> 00:07:52,108 Speaker 1: I do not think. 176 00:07:51,908 --> 00:07:53,988 Speaker 2: If he walks away, he's going to be sitting on. 177 00:07:53,868 --> 00:07:56,628 Speaker 1: Some network desk talking about Dak Prescott. I think he 178 00:07:56,708 --> 00:07:58,708 Speaker 1: hates that stuff mostly. I don't think he's going to 179 00:07:58,788 --> 00:08:01,308 Speaker 1: be doing that. This is a guy who, due respect, 180 00:08:01,388 --> 00:08:04,068 Speaker 1: is in his forties, does not have children, does not 181 00:08:04,108 --> 00:08:05,908 Speaker 1: have this thing begging at him to get. 182 00:08:05,748 --> 00:08:09,388 Speaker 2: Away from football, So why not keep playing? At the same. 183 00:08:09,148 --> 00:08:11,748 Speaker 1: Time, what a pain in He has to start a 184 00:08:11,788 --> 00:08:14,028 Speaker 1: new team again two years later. 185 00:08:13,828 --> 00:08:15,068 Speaker 2: So Rogers joins the Steeler. 186 00:08:15,108 --> 00:08:16,908 Speaker 1: He's gonna do the same thing we just saw him 187 00:08:16,948 --> 00:08:18,468 Speaker 1: do where the Steelers social team. 188 00:08:18,348 --> 00:08:20,868 Speaker 2: Is like here, he is walking in in slow motion. 189 00:08:21,308 --> 00:08:23,548 Speaker 1: He's at the press conference, sitting next to the coach 190 00:08:23,588 --> 00:08:26,188 Speaker 1: and the owner and the GM. He's at Promanthe's with 191 00:08:26,268 --> 00:08:28,908 Speaker 1: George Pickens, He's at a Pirates game with dk Metchev. 192 00:08:28,988 --> 00:08:33,148 Speaker 1: That is a lot of work, emotionally, physically, all of 193 00:08:33,188 --> 00:08:35,628 Speaker 1: that to start over again and say what a great 194 00:08:35,628 --> 00:08:38,028 Speaker 1: group of guys this is and we can really does 195 00:08:38,068 --> 00:08:38,748 Speaker 1: he have that in him? 196 00:08:38,788 --> 00:08:39,708 Speaker 2: As he's been there on the beach? 197 00:08:39,748 --> 00:08:41,868 Speaker 1: So I do that one more time for someone who's 198 00:08:42,228 --> 00:08:46,388 Speaker 1: wildly wealthy, incredibly successful and has done everything, or do 199 00:08:46,468 --> 00:08:47,428 Speaker 1: you just walk off? 200 00:08:47,508 --> 00:08:48,748 Speaker 2: I'm ready to entertain that. 201 00:08:48,868 --> 00:08:49,068 Speaker 4: Now. 202 00:08:49,228 --> 00:08:50,588 Speaker 1: We still think it's gonna be one of these two, 203 00:08:50,628 --> 00:08:53,268 Speaker 1: and everyone insists that it will be. Don't underestimate a 204 00:08:53,308 --> 00:08:55,868 Speaker 1: clown prince Joker like him, who is an agent of 205 00:08:55,948 --> 00:08:58,548 Speaker 1: chaos with the media, which surprised me not at all, 206 00:08:58,628 --> 00:09:00,948 Speaker 1: if he announced a day from now, a minute from 207 00:09:00,948 --> 00:09:02,108 Speaker 1: now that he's played his last down. 208 00:09:02,148 --> 00:09:03,908 Speaker 9: We have the scene in the door, Joker is leaning 209 00:09:03,908 --> 00:09:04,468 Speaker 9: out the car. 210 00:09:07,548 --> 00:09:09,348 Speaker 1: And that's him on the beach, and it's just like, 211 00:09:09,428 --> 00:09:10,428 Speaker 1: I'm done, I'm out. 212 00:09:10,348 --> 00:09:12,108 Speaker 2: Of here, Peter good call. I like it. 213 00:09:12,508 --> 00:09:12,708 Speaker 4: You know. 214 00:09:12,988 --> 00:09:15,948 Speaker 10: I believe that these teams need to make a decision 215 00:09:15,988 --> 00:09:18,348 Speaker 10: by April first. I mean, the Super Bowl's played just 216 00:09:18,388 --> 00:09:20,828 Speaker 10: in the February teams. The off season is only getting 217 00:09:20,868 --> 00:09:25,188 Speaker 10: shorter and shorter. Combine Draft all these things coming up. 218 00:09:25,388 --> 00:09:27,668 Speaker 10: These teams have to know what type of approach they're 219 00:09:27,708 --> 00:09:30,108 Speaker 10: going to take to this offseason in Otah. Are they 220 00:09:30,108 --> 00:09:31,628 Speaker 10: going to have a veteran quarterback? Are they going to 221 00:09:31,668 --> 00:09:34,308 Speaker 10: have a rookie quarterback? Because these approaches are different. The 222 00:09:34,348 --> 00:09:36,548 Speaker 10: playbook style and how you're going to teach it is different. 223 00:09:36,548 --> 00:09:38,948 Speaker 10: How wide open are you going to be allowed to be. 224 00:09:39,228 --> 00:09:41,308 Speaker 10: If you have an Aaron Rodgers, you can throw everything 225 00:09:41,388 --> 00:09:44,308 Speaker 10: at him because all the lingo and vernacular of football, 226 00:09:44,348 --> 00:09:46,388 Speaker 10: they may be different, but it's all the same. So 227 00:09:46,428 --> 00:09:48,388 Speaker 10: a guy like Aaron Rodgers, he's seen it all, you 228 00:09:48,388 --> 00:09:50,628 Speaker 10: could throw everything at him. If you have a rookie quarterback, 229 00:09:50,668 --> 00:09:52,548 Speaker 10: you may take a different approach. You may limit that 230 00:09:52,548 --> 00:09:54,668 Speaker 10: playbook a little bit. See how much that skuy can 231 00:09:54,708 --> 00:09:56,628 Speaker 10: soak up, and things of that nature. So I think 232 00:09:56,668 --> 00:09:59,668 Speaker 10: it's very important to have this answer early because there's 233 00:09:59,788 --> 00:10:02,308 Speaker 10: so much planning to the off season that goes into 234 00:10:02,388 --> 00:10:04,708 Speaker 10: all of this, and everything starts from the end side 235 00:10:04,708 --> 00:10:07,188 Speaker 10: out from the center to the quarterback and outwards. And 236 00:10:07,228 --> 00:10:09,068 Speaker 10: you don't want to build a team outside in with 237 00:10:09,148 --> 00:10:11,468 Speaker 10: receivers and then go inside. So I think you need 238 00:10:11,508 --> 00:10:13,348 Speaker 10: an answer by April first. 239 00:10:13,588 --> 00:10:15,548 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you guys have been spot on with 240 00:10:15,588 --> 00:10:18,548 Speaker 6: this as far as Rogers deciding on this, And because 241 00:10:18,588 --> 00:10:20,388 Speaker 6: of that, I think the Giants need to move on 242 00:10:20,548 --> 00:10:23,028 Speaker 6: because I think if Rogers is deciding and it's on 243 00:10:23,108 --> 00:10:25,748 Speaker 6: his clock, he's going to the Steelers. When you think 244 00:10:25,748 --> 00:10:29,228 Speaker 6: about his history, all the successful seasons he's had, he. 245 00:10:29,148 --> 00:10:30,388 Speaker 4: Wants his Jordy Nelson. 246 00:10:30,468 --> 00:10:34,188 Speaker 6: He wants his toy Davante that he can have and 247 00:10:34,228 --> 00:10:36,268 Speaker 6: have a connection with. I think he sees that in 248 00:10:36,268 --> 00:10:40,228 Speaker 6: this Steelers offense with DK metcalf Pickens, He's got the 249 00:10:40,228 --> 00:10:42,748 Speaker 6: threats that he needs to be successful and not to 250 00:10:42,828 --> 00:10:46,868 Speaker 6: mention as much as the Giants might like Aaron Rodgers. 251 00:10:46,908 --> 00:10:49,828 Speaker 6: I think Dave Ball wants his project. He wants a 252 00:10:49,868 --> 00:10:52,588 Speaker 6: young guy. He hasn't had that yet, and I think 253 00:10:52,628 --> 00:10:56,068 Speaker 6: he wants to create a system around something that he chose. 254 00:10:56,228 --> 00:10:59,548 Speaker 5: Two vastly different head coaching experiences, just with the scenarios 255 00:10:59,548 --> 00:11:02,908 Speaker 5: they find themselves in in Tomlin and Brian Dabele. Kyle, 256 00:11:02,988 --> 00:11:04,708 Speaker 5: you're showing your hand a little bit. You know, it's 257 00:11:04,748 --> 00:11:06,828 Speaker 5: well documented on this show when it comes to your 258 00:11:06,868 --> 00:11:10,268 Speaker 5: willingness to engage in certain social situations. I don't think 259 00:11:10,268 --> 00:11:12,548 Speaker 5: it's that big of a deal. When Rogers has to 260 00:11:12,628 --> 00:11:15,828 Speaker 5: jump teams, you're like another team another two years later, 261 00:11:15,908 --> 00:11:17,228 Speaker 5: it's like it's a new locker room. 262 00:11:17,228 --> 00:11:18,268 Speaker 3: But he's Aaron Rodgers. 263 00:11:18,348 --> 00:11:20,308 Speaker 5: He's Aaron Bleepin' Rodgers, if you will, Like guys are 264 00:11:20,348 --> 00:11:22,428 Speaker 5: going to come to him, extend their hand and want 265 00:11:22,428 --> 00:11:23,108 Speaker 5: to get to know him. 266 00:11:23,148 --> 00:11:25,308 Speaker 3: I think he does come back, and I hope that 267 00:11:25,308 --> 00:11:25,668 Speaker 3: he does. 268 00:11:25,708 --> 00:11:28,988 Speaker 5: I know we're talking constantly about played his last snap, 269 00:11:29,028 --> 00:11:31,948 Speaker 5: but I think the Aaron Rodgers experiences I've fully come 270 00:11:31,988 --> 00:11:34,988 Speaker 5: full circle as entertaining at this point. Peter Schrager, you're 271 00:11:35,028 --> 00:11:38,788 Speaker 5: a good check in on X the X Machine sometimes 272 00:11:39,068 --> 00:11:40,948 Speaker 5: all the time actually, and if you want to follow him, 273 00:11:40,988 --> 00:11:44,948 Speaker 5: you would see posts like this from Wednesday, three teams 274 00:11:44,988 --> 00:11:47,508 Speaker 5: that were interested in Cooper Cup, who is now fully 275 00:11:47,508 --> 00:11:49,548 Speaker 5: available to all thirty two or thirty. 276 00:11:49,268 --> 00:11:50,948 Speaker 3: One from the one that just released him. 277 00:11:51,068 --> 00:11:53,348 Speaker 5: The question is what it will cost him to sign 278 00:11:53,388 --> 00:11:55,068 Speaker 5: him and what he and his reps are looking for 279 00:11:55,108 --> 00:11:57,548 Speaker 5: money wise. He certainly will be motivated and has good 280 00:11:57,548 --> 00:11:59,708 Speaker 5: football left in the tank. Peter, I totally agree with 281 00:11:59,748 --> 00:12:02,748 Speaker 5: that last part of the statement. Which team you think 282 00:12:03,108 --> 00:12:05,188 Speaker 5: Cooper Cup would want to play for next year? 283 00:12:05,188 --> 00:12:06,468 Speaker 3: Who do you think you'd want to see him in 284 00:12:06,468 --> 00:12:06,948 Speaker 3: a jersey? 285 00:12:08,108 --> 00:12:11,348 Speaker 9: Let me give a little more context on the tweet there. 286 00:12:11,388 --> 00:12:15,228 Speaker 9: So he gets cut and it's everyone saying he's washed, 287 00:12:15,268 --> 00:12:19,308 Speaker 9: he's done. I had many different teams text me because 288 00:12:19,308 --> 00:12:21,468 Speaker 9: they know my connection with the Rams may have been like, 289 00:12:22,548 --> 00:12:24,788 Speaker 9: what don't we see it seems like we see on 290 00:12:24,828 --> 00:12:26,588 Speaker 9: tape that he could still play. He had a good 291 00:12:26,668 --> 00:12:29,428 Speaker 9: year last year, and it was just a money issue 292 00:12:29,468 --> 00:12:31,988 Speaker 9: that Cooper Cup was making twenty million dollars. They were 293 00:12:32,028 --> 00:12:34,428 Speaker 9: trying to trade him, couldn't find a trade partner who 294 00:12:34,468 --> 00:12:36,748 Speaker 9: would take on that salary, so they end up releasing him. 295 00:12:36,868 --> 00:12:40,428 Speaker 9: Now the question is what number can Cooper Cup get. 296 00:12:40,788 --> 00:12:44,028 Speaker 9: I think we will see when these teams are inquiring. 297 00:12:44,068 --> 00:12:46,668 Speaker 9: But a lot of teams can't afford what Cooper Cup wants. 298 00:12:46,668 --> 00:12:49,028 Speaker 9: Some teams can. The team that I would like to 299 00:12:49,028 --> 00:12:51,348 Speaker 9: see him go with, because I also like a little 300 00:12:51,388 --> 00:12:55,268 Speaker 9: bit of this sprinkling of sauce here, I'd like to. 301 00:12:55,268 --> 00:12:56,268 Speaker 2: See him go to Seattle. 302 00:12:57,308 --> 00:13:00,868 Speaker 9: He is a Washington state guy, and Seattle just said 303 00:13:00,868 --> 00:13:04,388 Speaker 9: goodbye to two really good wide receivers and DK Metcalf 304 00:13:04,548 --> 00:13:08,908 Speaker 9: and Tyler Lockett, and you insert Cooper Cup, who went 305 00:13:08,948 --> 00:13:12,948 Speaker 9: to Eastern Washington, is from the state of Washington and 306 00:13:13,188 --> 00:13:17,228 Speaker 9: is in the division quit the Rams. And Bobby Wagner 307 00:13:17,268 --> 00:13:19,468 Speaker 9: did the same thing in the reverse when the Seahawks 308 00:13:19,508 --> 00:13:21,308 Speaker 9: were like, we're done with Bobby Wagner, the Rams signed 309 00:13:21,348 --> 00:13:23,468 Speaker 9: him and he's like, I cannot wait to play Seattle 310 00:13:23,788 --> 00:13:25,908 Speaker 9: and beat them twice a year. This is going to 311 00:13:25,908 --> 00:13:27,828 Speaker 9: be the opposite of that Cooper Cup, who's had some 312 00:13:27,868 --> 00:13:30,348 Speaker 9: of his best days of pro at the Seahawks. I 313 00:13:30,428 --> 00:13:33,188 Speaker 9: just feel like Sam Darnold is going there with Jackson 314 00:13:33,228 --> 00:13:35,948 Speaker 9: Smith and Jigma, and we've got who Jake Bobo was 315 00:13:35,988 --> 00:13:38,508 Speaker 9: the number two guy. All due respect to Jake Bobo, 316 00:13:38,588 --> 00:13:41,308 Speaker 9: like Cooper Cup's a huge upgrade from that. Seahawks also 317 00:13:41,308 --> 00:13:44,068 Speaker 9: have some salary cap money they can spend. I'm not 318 00:13:44,108 --> 00:13:45,908 Speaker 9: going to put a number on Cup because there have 319 00:13:45,948 --> 00:13:49,708 Speaker 9: been so many wild numbers as to what he should get, 320 00:13:49,948 --> 00:13:52,708 Speaker 9: what he will get, and what teams are willing to spend. 321 00:13:52,948 --> 00:13:53,708 Speaker 2: I will just say this. 322 00:13:53,788 --> 00:13:56,308 Speaker 9: I spoke to multiple teams who inquired with the me 323 00:13:56,428 --> 00:13:58,428 Speaker 9: who does not work for the Rams or for Cooper 324 00:13:58,468 --> 00:14:03,188 Speaker 9: Cup to say what's the catch why? It was simply 325 00:14:03,268 --> 00:14:05,748 Speaker 9: money and Saldarka they love him. In Los Angeles they 326 00:14:05,788 --> 00:14:08,308 Speaker 9: went with Devantae Adams, they brought back to two out well, 327 00:14:08,428 --> 00:14:09,588 Speaker 9: and they've got Pooka Nakua. 328 00:14:09,908 --> 00:14:10,828 Speaker 2: I think Cooper Cup. 329 00:14:10,668 --> 00:14:12,508 Speaker 9: Would be a great Seahawk and would be a real 330 00:14:12,548 --> 00:14:13,788 Speaker 9: great security. 331 00:14:13,268 --> 00:14:15,668 Speaker 2: Blanket for Sam Darnold going to a new home. 332 00:14:16,628 --> 00:14:19,508 Speaker 10: I believe Cooper Cup goes to the Detroit Lions. 333 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:21,828 Speaker 2: You know, he has familiarity with Jared. 334 00:14:21,628 --> 00:14:23,908 Speaker 10: Goff from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty on the way 335 00:14:23,908 --> 00:14:25,948 Speaker 10: to that Super Bowl run that they made back then. 336 00:14:26,228 --> 00:14:28,428 Speaker 10: You know, Detroit Lions has fifty five million dollars in 337 00:14:28,468 --> 00:14:31,548 Speaker 10: cap space to spend right now. They use an offense 338 00:14:31,588 --> 00:14:34,268 Speaker 10: that has a lot of motions and shifts and Isaac 339 00:14:34,348 --> 00:14:36,308 Speaker 10: you know this. You know, the tight end determines the 340 00:14:36,308 --> 00:14:38,988 Speaker 10: strength of the formation and the speed is determined. 341 00:14:38,668 --> 00:14:39,468 Speaker 4: By the slot receiver. 342 00:14:39,708 --> 00:14:41,428 Speaker 10: You have a guy like Aman Ross, Saint Brown and 343 00:14:41,468 --> 00:14:44,428 Speaker 10: Cooper Cupp that can both play inside and outside with 344 00:14:44,508 --> 00:14:47,068 Speaker 10: all these motions and shifts that can confuse the Nickels 345 00:14:47,068 --> 00:14:48,868 Speaker 10: which side he should be on the left of the right, 346 00:14:48,988 --> 00:14:50,988 Speaker 10: things of that nature. You have Jamison Williams, you have 347 00:14:51,068 --> 00:14:54,428 Speaker 10: Jamier Gibbs. There's just so many problems for this offense 348 00:14:54,468 --> 00:14:56,468 Speaker 10: that defenses have to look out for. And then you 349 00:14:56,468 --> 00:14:58,708 Speaker 10: look at the defense of the Detroit Lions. They've hit 350 00:14:58,748 --> 00:15:02,028 Speaker 10: on so many picks. Brad Holmes has hit Aiden Hutchinson, Kirby, 351 00:15:02,148 --> 00:15:05,348 Speaker 10: Joseph Brian Branch, Jack Campbell. So on the defensive side, 352 00:15:05,388 --> 00:15:07,228 Speaker 10: I mean, this is a unit before they hit this 353 00:15:07,308 --> 00:15:09,348 Speaker 10: injury bug that was the top five unit by the 354 00:15:09,388 --> 00:15:11,868 Speaker 10: middle of the season before this injury bug hit. So 355 00:15:11,908 --> 00:15:14,668 Speaker 10: I think offensively, Cooper Cup can really take this offense 356 00:15:14,828 --> 00:15:17,668 Speaker 10: to another level, especially with the departure of Ben Johnson, 357 00:15:17,708 --> 00:15:18,628 Speaker 10: the offensive coordinator. 358 00:15:18,908 --> 00:15:22,228 Speaker 6: We got to get Jason and stopped talking about the Lions. 359 00:15:21,428 --> 00:15:24,548 Speaker 6: He's a Lions. 360 00:15:23,988 --> 00:15:27,228 Speaker 3: Theory nitny to the Detroits, it's a whole experience. 361 00:15:27,428 --> 00:15:28,748 Speaker 4: It's a Lions doing through. 362 00:15:28,948 --> 00:15:31,188 Speaker 6: But either way, I think that Cooper Cup needs to 363 00:15:31,188 --> 00:15:33,588 Speaker 6: be with the Patriots. When I picture Cooper Cup and 364 00:15:33,628 --> 00:15:36,148 Speaker 6: I do this Jersey test, I see him there. 365 00:15:36,548 --> 00:15:36,748 Speaker 8: One. 366 00:15:36,908 --> 00:15:39,468 Speaker 6: Vrabel has built a great defense, so this team has 367 00:15:39,508 --> 00:15:43,268 Speaker 6: a good foundation to win games. Also, we have to 368 00:15:43,348 --> 00:15:47,188 Speaker 6: talk about Josh McDaniels. Josh McDaniels has coached a number 369 00:15:47,228 --> 00:15:50,628 Speaker 6: of receivers that fit the same mold that Cooper Cup fits. 370 00:15:50,908 --> 00:15:53,268 Speaker 4: Wes Welker and Mondola, all. 371 00:15:53,148 --> 00:15:56,228 Speaker 6: These great receivers that he's built offenses around. And I 372 00:15:56,228 --> 00:15:58,988 Speaker 6: think Cooper Cup can be successful in a system with 373 00:15:59,028 --> 00:16:01,068 Speaker 6: the offensive coordinator that really favors him. 374 00:16:01,148 --> 00:16:04,548 Speaker 3: Running it back again, Kyle, Yeah, I. 375 00:16:04,548 --> 00:16:05,108 Speaker 4: Mean, listen this. 376 00:16:06,348 --> 00:16:07,988 Speaker 2: He looks like a Patriot to me too. 377 00:16:08,348 --> 00:16:12,588 Speaker 1: Certainly during the Belichick area and somewhere, Welker and Danny 378 00:16:12,708 --> 00:16:14,188 Speaker 1: and Julian and I who. 379 00:16:14,068 --> 00:16:16,308 Speaker 2: Am missing Hogan all those guys. 380 00:16:16,508 --> 00:16:18,068 Speaker 1: They can start a whole boy band and they all 381 00:16:18,068 --> 00:16:19,068 Speaker 1: look like paper downs. 382 00:16:19,108 --> 00:16:20,708 Speaker 2: I love to see Cooper Cup there too. It just 383 00:16:20,708 --> 00:16:21,548 Speaker 2: looks like it fits. 384 00:16:21,708 --> 00:16:25,388 Speaker 1: However, I go, I go full circle, and first of all, 385 00:16:25,948 --> 00:16:27,628 Speaker 1: this Cooper Cup thing hits me differently. 386 00:16:27,748 --> 00:16:30,308 Speaker 2: This free agency is just money, money, money, and you're gone. 387 00:16:30,348 --> 00:16:33,468 Speaker 1: You're gone, You're gone. There's no pregnant moment to stop 388 00:16:33,508 --> 00:16:35,508 Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god. Cooper Cup was an 389 00:16:35,548 --> 00:16:38,228 Speaker 1: amazing RAM. I can't believe he's not on the Rams anymore. 390 00:16:38,348 --> 00:16:40,628 Speaker 1: The Rams have been around as an organization for eighty 391 00:16:40,668 --> 00:16:42,988 Speaker 1: eight years. He is one of the best Rams ever 392 00:16:43,148 --> 00:16:45,828 Speaker 1: of all time. This is a guy who did crazy 393 00:16:45,868 --> 00:16:48,468 Speaker 1: things as a third round pick coming out of that 394 00:16:48,548 --> 00:16:50,948 Speaker 1: small school, and like, to me, he is like an 395 00:16:50,988 --> 00:16:53,388 Speaker 1: all time Ram that I It's just it amounts to 396 00:16:53,468 --> 00:16:55,348 Speaker 1: a little bit more than a tweet from the Rams 397 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:56,348 Speaker 1: saying we'll miss you Coop. 398 00:16:56,428 --> 00:16:57,948 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I'm attached to. 399 00:16:57,908 --> 00:16:59,948 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup and so I want good things for him, 400 00:16:59,948 --> 00:17:02,068 Speaker 1: and I want Dare I say a word that I'm 401 00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:05,348 Speaker 1: loath to use in this segment, in any segment, revenge 402 00:17:05,348 --> 00:17:05,668 Speaker 1: here you go. 403 00:17:05,828 --> 00:17:06,388 Speaker 4: I like it. 404 00:17:06,428 --> 00:17:07,108 Speaker 2: I don't think. 405 00:17:07,348 --> 00:17:10,588 Speaker 1: I hate the term revenge game, and I really really 406 00:17:10,628 --> 00:17:13,388 Speaker 1: hate using it because it's usually wrong. Peter says it 407 00:17:13,468 --> 00:17:15,468 Speaker 1: simply about money, and it is a lot about money. 408 00:17:15,668 --> 00:17:17,628 Speaker 1: It's also about his play and maybe it's not as 409 00:17:17,668 --> 00:17:19,428 Speaker 1: good as it used to be, and maybe his production 410 00:17:19,468 --> 00:17:21,828 Speaker 1: has dropped off. It's not a maybe, it definitely has. 411 00:17:22,188 --> 00:17:24,028 Speaker 1: So I think the rams are like, we love Coop. 412 00:17:24,308 --> 00:17:25,988 Speaker 1: It's a lot of money, and I don't think he's 413 00:17:25,988 --> 00:17:27,428 Speaker 1: as good as he was a couple of years ago. 414 00:17:27,548 --> 00:17:30,228 Speaker 1: That's football, So let's move on. Cooper Cup has heard 415 00:17:30,228 --> 00:17:32,548 Speaker 1: that he's on record. I'm not a descending player. I'm 416 00:17:32,548 --> 00:17:35,468 Speaker 1: an ascending player. He's thirty one. I would love to 417 00:17:35,508 --> 00:17:38,188 Speaker 1: see Cooper Cup go down to Sofi Stadium and have 418 00:17:38,308 --> 00:17:40,428 Speaker 1: nine catches for one hundred and one yards in a touchdown. 419 00:17:40,508 --> 00:17:41,908 Speaker 2: I root for him. I like him. 420 00:17:41,948 --> 00:17:44,708 Speaker 1: I am in Seattle too, Sam, exact thing where it's 421 00:17:44,748 --> 00:17:46,668 Speaker 1: obvious and Peter did the whole breakdown and you don't 422 00:17:46,708 --> 00:17:48,388 Speaker 1: have to be a genius to do it. They maybe 423 00:17:48,428 --> 00:17:51,628 Speaker 1: need a little wide receiver help, all right, exactly, Sam Donald. 424 00:17:51,628 --> 00:17:54,428 Speaker 1: Going from those vikings, guys to Jake Bobo and JSN 425 00:17:54,508 --> 00:17:57,468 Speaker 1: is fine. But someone who is that experience, that good 426 00:17:57,628 --> 00:17:59,828 Speaker 1: hands is Cooper Cup. I would put him there. I 427 00:17:59,908 --> 00:18:01,428 Speaker 1: cannot eat. That's one of those things where when the 428 00:18:01,468 --> 00:18:03,788 Speaker 1: schedule drops, when we do our schedule release shows, you're. 429 00:18:03,588 --> 00:18:06,308 Speaker 2: Like, ooh, Seahawks at ramsday night. 430 00:18:06,668 --> 00:18:10,308 Speaker 1: Time, Thursday night on the zon Cooper Cup to Seattle. 431 00:18:10,308 --> 00:18:11,708 Speaker 3: That's what I want to add to that. 432 00:18:11,908 --> 00:18:13,948 Speaker 5: It was not too long ago when Kevin O'Connell got 433 00:18:14,028 --> 00:18:16,188 Speaker 5: hired in Minnesota and Justin Jefferson was the first guy 434 00:18:16,188 --> 00:18:18,988 Speaker 5: calling him saying, how did you scheme up Cooper Cup 435 00:18:19,388 --> 00:18:21,308 Speaker 5: so open within this Rams offense. 436 00:18:21,388 --> 00:18:22,508 Speaker 3: Now he has a chance to. 437 00:18:22,468 --> 00:18:25,188 Speaker 5: Maybe play with Donald and if Donald's looking at it, 438 00:18:25,308 --> 00:18:27,748 Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson type not comparing the two, but they are 439 00:18:27,868 --> 00:18:30,548 Speaker 5: very skilled rode receivers. He could rely on Cooper Cup 440 00:18:30,548 --> 00:18:32,428 Speaker 5: pretty well and of course a good guy to learn from. 441 00:18:32,468 --> 00:18:39,348 Speaker 5: For Jackson Smith and Jigbell, it's. 442 00:18:39,228 --> 00:18:41,668 Speaker 2: Time for trivia there we go do it every Thursday morning. 443 00:18:41,668 --> 00:18:45,228 Speaker 9: And there is a huge list of really reputable, well 444 00:18:45,268 --> 00:18:48,388 Speaker 9: known wide receivers in the NFL who are still free 445 00:18:48,388 --> 00:18:51,268 Speaker 9: agents and on the market, so much so that we 446 00:18:51,348 --> 00:18:55,748 Speaker 9: could build a full trivia segment around their accomplishments, their accolades, 447 00:18:56,428 --> 00:18:58,548 Speaker 9: and what they still have left in the tank. This 448 00:18:58,668 --> 00:19:02,668 Speaker 9: week on trivia, we're doing wide receivers who are still 449 00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:04,788 Speaker 9: available for your team? 450 00:19:05,268 --> 00:19:09,068 Speaker 2: Jason Cabinda, Are you ready? We're gonna start you us. 451 00:19:10,668 --> 00:19:11,228 Speaker 3: He's ready? 452 00:19:11,268 --> 00:19:17,188 Speaker 2: Are you ready? First time in the cauldron? Welcome? All right, Jason, 453 00:19:17,588 --> 00:19:20,348 Speaker 2: go to Jason. Jason's the other new guy. Let's go 454 00:19:20,388 --> 00:19:24,748 Speaker 2: to Jason. Please. Hi, that's Isaac. 455 00:19:26,908 --> 00:19:27,508 Speaker 4: All right? 456 00:19:28,028 --> 00:19:30,628 Speaker 9: All right, Jason, you mentioned Cooper Cup and how you 457 00:19:30,628 --> 00:19:32,148 Speaker 9: want to see him at the Detroit Lion. Do you 458 00:19:32,148 --> 00:19:35,148 Speaker 9: know that Cooper Cup led the NFL and receptions in 459 00:19:35,228 --> 00:19:38,708 Speaker 9: twenty twenty one with one hundred and forty five catches. 460 00:19:39,748 --> 00:19:42,468 Speaker 9: One hundred and forty five catches in twenty twenty one. 461 00:19:43,028 --> 00:19:45,988 Speaker 9: He was unbelievable in the Super Bowl, making huge plays. 462 00:19:46,148 --> 00:19:50,188 Speaker 9: He actually was the NFL's Triple Crown winner that year 463 00:19:50,828 --> 00:19:55,668 Speaker 9: and actually was the Super Bowl MDPs. All right, So, 464 00:19:55,868 --> 00:19:59,828 Speaker 9: Jason Cabinda, when I ask you, Cooper Cup had one 465 00:19:59,908 --> 00:20:03,948 Speaker 9: hundred and forty five catches who finished second behind Cooper 466 00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:07,908 Speaker 9: Cup in receptions in the year twenty twenty one. 467 00:20:08,628 --> 00:20:10,668 Speaker 2: All four of these names are veterans. 468 00:20:10,708 --> 00:20:14,188 Speaker 9: You know, Marii Cooper on the Cowboys, Tyreek Kill on 469 00:20:14,228 --> 00:20:18,788 Speaker 9: the Chiefs, Keenan Allen on the Chargers, or DeVante Adams 470 00:20:18,828 --> 00:20:22,388 Speaker 9: on the Green Bay Packers, who finished second in receptions 471 00:20:22,508 --> 00:20:23,788 Speaker 9: to Cooper Cup that season. 472 00:20:24,108 --> 00:20:26,508 Speaker 10: This is a tough one in between B and D. 473 00:20:26,788 --> 00:20:28,868 Speaker 10: But Tyreek's more of a deep ball guy. I'm gonna 474 00:20:28,868 --> 00:20:30,948 Speaker 10: assume he had less receptions, maybe more yards. 475 00:20:30,948 --> 00:20:31,628 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with D. 476 00:20:31,908 --> 00:20:33,828 Speaker 10: DeVante Adams, Green Bay Packers. 477 00:20:35,268 --> 00:20:36,828 Speaker 2: How confident are you with that answer? 478 00:20:36,948 --> 00:20:37,588 Speaker 4: I'm confident. 479 00:20:38,908 --> 00:20:47,268 Speaker 9: Okay, let's reveal the answer to number one. 480 00:20:48,788 --> 00:20:49,988 Speaker 4: Man. Let's go. 481 00:20:51,388 --> 00:20:53,068 Speaker 2: Let's see the board. 482 00:20:53,188 --> 00:20:56,668 Speaker 9: Who were the receptions leaders in the year twenty twenty one. 483 00:20:57,668 --> 00:20:58,988 Speaker 2: Let's roll out. 484 00:21:00,508 --> 00:21:02,788 Speaker 9: Was very good. 485 00:21:02,908 --> 00:21:03,868 Speaker 2: There we go, There we go. 486 00:21:03,908 --> 00:21:06,748 Speaker 9: Of course we got rookie Justin Jefferson on the list 487 00:21:06,748 --> 00:21:07,348 Speaker 9: at four. 488 00:21:07,708 --> 00:21:10,068 Speaker 2: But these are the most receptions that season. 489 00:21:10,428 --> 00:21:13,988 Speaker 9: Cup had twenty two more than the guy next year. 490 00:21:14,028 --> 00:21:17,188 Speaker 1: On myceievable year from Cooper thrty three catches in the 491 00:21:17,228 --> 00:21:18,028 Speaker 1: playoffs that year. 492 00:21:18,188 --> 00:21:22,348 Speaker 2: Unreal answerable MVP. But Davonte was pretty. 493 00:21:22,108 --> 00:21:23,228 Speaker 4: Nasty that year too. 494 00:21:23,268 --> 00:21:26,428 Speaker 9: If you remember, the Packers rolled through everybody and then 495 00:21:26,468 --> 00:21:29,428 Speaker 9: went to San Francisco on a Saturday night in the 496 00:21:29,428 --> 00:21:31,468 Speaker 9: playoffs and then lost into the Visional Round. 497 00:21:31,828 --> 00:21:35,508 Speaker 2: But Davonte Adams and Rogers. Rogers was the MVP that season. 498 00:21:36,228 --> 00:21:39,068 Speaker 4: All right, now we're. 499 00:21:38,908 --> 00:21:42,148 Speaker 2: Bringing on Jamie Ardle one for one. Come on, Jamie, Jamie, 500 00:21:42,188 --> 00:21:42,708 Speaker 2: are you ready? 501 00:21:43,228 --> 00:21:43,788 Speaker 3: I am ready. 502 00:21:43,788 --> 00:21:45,348 Speaker 5: I was a little annoyed that I didn't go first 503 00:21:45,348 --> 00:21:46,988 Speaker 5: like I usually do, but now convind us at the 504 00:21:46,988 --> 00:21:47,868 Speaker 5: standard case. 505 00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:49,388 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right. 506 00:21:49,548 --> 00:21:51,068 Speaker 9: Well, I thought we were going to show a picture 507 00:21:51,108 --> 00:21:52,468 Speaker 9: of Kyle when I asked for Jamis. 508 00:21:52,508 --> 00:21:53,188 Speaker 2: So we're fine. 509 00:21:53,268 --> 00:21:54,508 Speaker 4: Let's keep rolling here. 510 00:21:55,108 --> 00:22:02,068 Speaker 9: Free agent Stefon Diggs famously scored on the Minneapolis Miracle touchdown. 511 00:22:02,668 --> 00:22:04,348 Speaker 9: Just to get your back in the mood as a Viking, 512 00:22:04,428 --> 00:22:07,988 Speaker 9: Oh good, you have aeron purple. Let's relive the experience 513 00:22:08,268 --> 00:22:10,748 Speaker 9: and do so through the lens of our friends at 514 00:22:10,868 --> 00:22:12,628 Speaker 9: NFL Films. 515 00:22:14,988 --> 00:22:18,588 Speaker 11: Twenty four to twenty three, New Orleans. Ten seconds to go. 516 00:22:19,028 --> 00:22:20,508 Speaker 12: This is all nunder right, hair. 517 00:22:22,108 --> 00:22:24,188 Speaker 11: Vikings at their own thirty nine. It's third down. 518 00:22:24,628 --> 00:22:25,748 Speaker 4: Everybody on their feet. 519 00:22:26,628 --> 00:22:28,548 Speaker 2: It's quiet, they're letting the offense operate. 520 00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:31,388 Speaker 4: Yep, here we go. This is one. This is one. 521 00:22:31,468 --> 00:22:32,188 Speaker 2: Legends are made. 522 00:22:32,228 --> 00:22:32,468 Speaker 8: Paul. 523 00:22:35,668 --> 00:22:41,348 Speaker 11: We need a Greg Lewis moment. We need a Minnieappolis miracle. 524 00:22:43,348 --> 00:22:43,868 Speaker 2: Here we go. 525 00:22:44,788 --> 00:22:45,388 Speaker 13: Case on a. 526 00:22:45,308 --> 00:22:49,028 Speaker 11: Deep drop, steps up in the pocket, You'll fire to 527 00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:50,748 Speaker 11: the right side. 528 00:22:51,508 --> 00:22:54,028 Speaker 4: Oh, my dad gets it down. 529 00:22:55,428 --> 00:23:03,348 Speaker 3: Touchdowns six. 530 00:23:05,308 --> 00:23:06,988 Speaker 11: Spaarricle Oh. 531 00:23:07,348 --> 00:23:07,588 Speaker 14: Mine. 532 00:23:09,068 --> 00:23:13,188 Speaker 11: One of the most amazing finishes, not only in the 533 00:23:13,348 --> 00:23:15,028 Speaker 11: history of Minnesota Vikings football. 534 00:23:18,388 --> 00:23:21,788 Speaker 2: That man right there is a free agent at the moment. 535 00:23:21,868 --> 00:23:24,228 Speaker 9: Sefon Diggs still has football left to play. 536 00:23:24,708 --> 00:23:27,028 Speaker 2: Stefon Diggs one of the greatest moments, not only in 537 00:23:27,028 --> 00:23:30,948 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings history. That's Paul Allen tells us NFL history. 538 00:23:31,028 --> 00:23:33,868 Speaker 9: So Jamie, first I ask you before we bring up 539 00:23:33,868 --> 00:23:35,908 Speaker 9: the question, where were you when that play happened? 540 00:23:36,908 --> 00:23:40,268 Speaker 5: January of twenty seventeen. I was coming off the NFL 541 00:23:40,348 --> 00:23:43,188 Speaker 5: sideline about to take my job on the SEC sideline. 542 00:23:43,228 --> 00:23:44,908 Speaker 5: So I was still paying attention to the NFL a 543 00:23:44,948 --> 00:23:47,708 Speaker 5: little bit. I was not yet living back home in Minnesota, 544 00:23:47,868 --> 00:23:49,148 Speaker 5: but still paying attention to the Vikings. 545 00:23:49,148 --> 00:23:52,628 Speaker 9: Okay, good to note where you were mentally and physically. 546 00:23:53,508 --> 00:23:56,308 Speaker 9: What happened on the point after that touchdown, we. 547 00:23:56,388 --> 00:23:57,268 Speaker 2: Have four choices. 548 00:23:58,348 --> 00:24:01,708 Speaker 9: The Vikings took a kneel down and just said we're done. 549 00:24:03,388 --> 00:24:08,348 Speaker 9: The Saints the extra point. Fullback CJ. Ham took a 550 00:24:08,428 --> 00:24:13,028 Speaker 9: direct snap for a two point conversion, kicker Jason Myers 551 00:24:13,108 --> 00:24:15,908 Speaker 9: through an unsuccessful two point conversion and just got them 552 00:24:15,948 --> 00:24:19,908 Speaker 9: off the field. What happened there was a well, I'll 553 00:24:19,948 --> 00:24:21,868 Speaker 9: first let you just guess and then I'll explain it 554 00:24:21,988 --> 00:24:22,868 Speaker 9: all okay. 555 00:24:23,148 --> 00:24:25,668 Speaker 5: I was also living in Pennsylvania at the time, so 556 00:24:25,788 --> 00:24:28,348 Speaker 5: I got to go to the next playoff game. 557 00:24:28,228 --> 00:24:31,268 Speaker 3: Against the Eagles at home, which was a joy and a. 558 00:24:31,308 --> 00:24:31,708 Speaker 4: Half to do. 559 00:24:31,988 --> 00:24:34,508 Speaker 5: Unfortunately, the Vikings lose that game, which they often do 560 00:24:34,588 --> 00:24:37,428 Speaker 5: when they have to go to Philadelphia. The sweet sweet 561 00:24:37,468 --> 00:24:40,348 Speaker 5: dulcintones of Paul Allen telling us before that play even 562 00:24:40,428 --> 00:24:43,588 Speaker 5: happened as a Minneapolis miracle is just a stunning moment 563 00:24:43,668 --> 00:24:46,148 Speaker 5: in Vikings history. And if I could call my dad 564 00:24:46,268 --> 00:24:48,308 Speaker 5: right now, I would to say I don't really need 565 00:24:48,348 --> 00:24:50,348 Speaker 5: your help, Dad, I just want to tell you that 566 00:24:50,468 --> 00:24:53,668 Speaker 5: I know the answer is a they took a kneel 567 00:24:53,748 --> 00:24:56,228 Speaker 5: down because they made the Saints come back out of 568 00:24:56,388 --> 00:24:59,188 Speaker 5: the locker room for the ultimate band aid rip and 569 00:24:59,308 --> 00:25:01,348 Speaker 5: say you must watch this play happen even though the 570 00:25:01,388 --> 00:25:02,428 Speaker 5: Vikings were going to win the game. 571 00:25:03,788 --> 00:25:06,908 Speaker 2: You are I'm Jamie it was an eight minute delay. 572 00:25:07,188 --> 00:25:08,828 Speaker 2: The Saints were all off the field. 573 00:25:09,188 --> 00:25:12,268 Speaker 9: Thomas morp said, the punter comes out nobly, and but 574 00:25:12,388 --> 00:25:15,348 Speaker 9: let's go to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman to really 575 00:25:15,548 --> 00:25:16,788 Speaker 9: sell how this thing was. 576 00:25:16,868 --> 00:25:19,348 Speaker 2: From Minnesota fans in front of their crowd. 577 00:25:21,188 --> 00:25:36,068 Speaker 14: Skull chap led by the new hero case Keenum, the 578 00:25:36,188 --> 00:25:39,828 Speaker 14: most anti climactic moment in the history of the NFL. 579 00:25:41,268 --> 00:25:44,748 Speaker 14: Four lead changes over the final three minutes, one second, 580 00:25:45,908 --> 00:25:50,068 Speaker 14: Diggs Keena, the Harrows and the Vikings are moving on. 581 00:25:52,668 --> 00:25:53,308 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 582 00:25:53,388 --> 00:25:56,548 Speaker 5: Peter fifty one on the Saints roster, and that video 583 00:25:56,708 --> 00:25:59,388 Speaker 5: is Manti so he also relives it often with me, 584 00:25:59,788 --> 00:26:01,468 Speaker 5: but not in a very painful way. 585 00:26:01,588 --> 00:26:03,828 Speaker 3: I do it like, yeah, man, maybe I was miracle. 586 00:26:03,868 --> 00:26:05,948 Speaker 3: He's like to run the entire length of the field. 587 00:26:05,988 --> 00:26:07,828 Speaker 3: System to get back on the field is terrible. 588 00:26:10,548 --> 00:26:13,548 Speaker 9: Yeah, not a great, not a great night for Saints fans, 589 00:26:13,588 --> 00:26:16,508 Speaker 9: but a legendary one from Minnesota. One's Jamie, well done, 590 00:26:16,628 --> 00:26:17,748 Speaker 9: Kyle Brant, You're up next. 591 00:26:17,788 --> 00:26:18,788 Speaker 4: I'm on the hot seat. 592 00:26:18,868 --> 00:26:20,348 Speaker 2: But all right, what do you got, Peter? 593 00:26:20,388 --> 00:26:24,228 Speaker 9: All right, we're gonna tep In Week four of the 594 00:26:24,388 --> 00:26:28,428 Speaker 9: twenty fourteen NFL season, Keenan Allen went off. He had 595 00:26:28,548 --> 00:26:32,668 Speaker 9: ten catches and one hundred and thirty five yards versus 596 00:26:32,748 --> 00:26:37,348 Speaker 9: a windless Jaguars team. Now Keenan went nuts. Keenan Allen 597 00:26:37,428 --> 00:26:39,428 Speaker 9: is a free agent right now. Okay, but this was 598 00:26:39,508 --> 00:26:41,628 Speaker 9: twenty fourteen, and he's still one of the young guys 599 00:26:41,668 --> 00:26:44,308 Speaker 9: in the league, just racking up catch after catch. At 600 00:26:44,348 --> 00:26:48,268 Speaker 9: your catch perennially one of the top leading receptions guys league. 601 00:26:48,308 --> 00:26:50,188 Speaker 2: I miss Phil Peter, I miss Phil. I'm sorry, fans, 602 00:26:50,188 --> 00:26:51,428 Speaker 2: you have a moment for philm I mean we're waiting 603 00:26:51,468 --> 00:26:53,668 Speaker 2: on Rogers. I'm waiting on philm So liar, come on, 604 00:26:54,068 --> 00:26:57,308 Speaker 2: get backfield. I love Rivers coaching somewhere in Alabama. 605 00:26:57,308 --> 00:26:59,628 Speaker 9: I'd rather have him as my quarterback the ninety percent 606 00:26:59,668 --> 00:27:03,468 Speaker 9: of the guys I'm watching every Sunday anyway, Kyle. 607 00:27:04,788 --> 00:27:05,308 Speaker 2: So True. 608 00:27:05,548 --> 00:27:10,588 Speaker 9: The night before that game, Week four of the twenty 609 00:27:10,628 --> 00:27:16,308 Speaker 9: fourteen season, SNL premiered it's fortieth season, not fifty. 610 00:27:16,348 --> 00:27:18,268 Speaker 2: We're at forty so ten years ago. 611 00:27:18,748 --> 00:27:20,708 Speaker 4: Forty forty fu who. 612 00:27:22,188 --> 00:27:27,388 Speaker 9: Were the host and the musical guest for the premiere 613 00:27:27,708 --> 00:27:31,348 Speaker 9: of Sartain Night Live's fortieth season, Keenan Allen. 614 00:27:31,388 --> 00:27:33,348 Speaker 2: This is all because you had a big game against 615 00:27:33,348 --> 00:27:38,908 Speaker 2: the windless Jaguars the night the day after. Sorry, all right, 616 00:27:39,188 --> 00:27:41,348 Speaker 2: I'm trying to do some eliminating. 617 00:27:42,588 --> 00:27:47,228 Speaker 1: Breaking Bad ended in twenty thirteen, so I don't think 618 00:27:47,308 --> 00:27:48,908 Speaker 1: Cranston would come after. 619 00:27:48,788 --> 00:27:50,588 Speaker 4: The series was over and be the host. 620 00:27:50,628 --> 00:27:51,988 Speaker 2: I think it would have been durned. I think c 621 00:27:52,268 --> 00:27:55,868 Speaker 2: is out. I thought maybe Princeton passed, but I think 622 00:27:55,908 --> 00:27:56,948 Speaker 2: that's a couple of years later. 623 00:27:57,068 --> 00:28:00,748 Speaker 9: Prince famously performed at the after party fortieth so he 624 00:28:00,868 --> 00:28:01,988 Speaker 9: was still with us, all right. 625 00:28:04,428 --> 00:28:07,068 Speaker 2: And I also remember Cranston hosting with Kanye. 626 00:28:07,188 --> 00:28:08,268 Speaker 4: Maybe that's a different eppor R. 627 00:28:08,788 --> 00:28:11,028 Speaker 1: When I'm going to though is I'm trying to concentrate 628 00:28:11,068 --> 00:28:13,748 Speaker 1: on the year twenty fourteen, when the Jaguars are winless 629 00:28:13,748 --> 00:28:16,948 Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen was great. The biggest star in the 630 00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:20,148 Speaker 1: world emerged as b and I'm not talking about Ariada. 631 00:28:20,228 --> 00:28:23,548 Speaker 2: Chris Pratt. That is Guardians in the Galaxy, that is 632 00:28:23,668 --> 00:28:26,148 Speaker 2: star Lord. He made Walkman. 633 00:28:26,068 --> 00:28:28,828 Speaker 1: Popular again, and if I remember right, I don't think 634 00:28:28,828 --> 00:28:31,468 Speaker 1: it's dress in part. That same year he also did 635 00:28:31,548 --> 00:28:34,748 Speaker 1: the Lego movie. Now he's doing the Garfield movie. But 636 00:28:34,948 --> 00:28:38,708 Speaker 1: I think Pratt was massive then. He had two huge 637 00:28:38,788 --> 00:28:41,348 Speaker 1: hits and Ariana Grande as well. I think you start 638 00:28:41,428 --> 00:28:46,348 Speaker 1: this season not with Pine or Evans or Helmsworth, with Pratt, 639 00:28:46,428 --> 00:28:48,548 Speaker 1: and I say B final answer. 640 00:28:48,708 --> 00:28:51,388 Speaker 9: The process of elimination is incredible. Keenan Allen, if you're watching, 641 00:28:51,468 --> 00:28:53,708 Speaker 9: we know you're a free agent. You will forever be 642 00:28:53,828 --> 00:29:03,148 Speaker 9: linked with B. Well, go on, Well done, Kyle. That 643 00:29:03,468 --> 00:29:06,908 Speaker 9: was the snn ELL's fortieth season premiere, and that was 644 00:29:06,948 --> 00:29:08,548 Speaker 9: the duo. That's what they looked like at the time, 645 00:29:09,028 --> 00:29:11,668 Speaker 9: Young Arion, right before Wicked, and that would. 646 00:29:11,468 --> 00:29:12,868 Speaker 2: Define Gravity, my friend. 647 00:29:12,948 --> 00:29:15,948 Speaker 9: That's right well before Pete Davidson, before whoever she's with 648 00:29:16,148 --> 00:29:16,788 Speaker 9: now this is it. 649 00:29:17,108 --> 00:29:17,708 Speaker 2: And then Pratt. 650 00:29:18,388 --> 00:29:20,348 Speaker 9: Of course, Chris Pratt has been in our lives since 651 00:29:20,388 --> 00:29:22,908 Speaker 9: Parks and rec and now he is still very much 652 00:29:23,108 --> 00:29:24,068 Speaker 9: in the Hollywood site. 653 00:29:24,148 --> 00:29:26,948 Speaker 2: Is it Thanksgiving Dinner with Arnold Schwartzenegains. I love it. 654 00:29:28,228 --> 00:29:30,308 Speaker 9: Isaac Broachhell, I don't think we're going to leave you 655 00:29:30,388 --> 00:29:31,188 Speaker 9: out of about Isaac. 656 00:29:31,308 --> 00:29:34,548 Speaker 2: We've got you involved as well. Let's go, Isaac. 657 00:29:35,148 --> 00:29:37,788 Speaker 9: You played with Keenan Allen for many years, so I'm 658 00:29:37,828 --> 00:29:40,788 Speaker 9: sure you know his connection to Chris Pratt and Ariana Grande. 659 00:29:40,908 --> 00:29:45,228 Speaker 2: But we talked that was it that was it. 660 00:29:46,068 --> 00:29:49,668 Speaker 9: Uh, Tyler Lockett's a free agent right now, really good 661 00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:53,948 Speaker 9: wide receiver. He had this epic catch on a Thursday 662 00:29:54,028 --> 00:29:56,668 Speaker 9: night versus the Rams in twenty eighteen. 663 00:29:56,748 --> 00:29:57,228 Speaker 2: Take a look. 664 00:29:58,428 --> 00:29:58,948 Speaker 9: Look right. 665 00:30:00,788 --> 00:30:07,828 Speaker 2: On first down, Wilson keeps surveys nowhere to go and 666 00:30:08,788 --> 00:30:13,748 Speaker 2: back of the end zone. Touchdown. What a catch by 667 00:30:13,868 --> 00:30:14,828 Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett. 668 00:30:15,548 --> 00:30:16,748 Speaker 13: How in the world did. 669 00:30:16,668 --> 00:30:17,428 Speaker 4: That just happen? 670 00:30:17,988 --> 00:30:20,348 Speaker 2: Flings it into the back corner of the end zone 671 00:30:20,468 --> 00:30:21,988 Speaker 2: and that was magic. 672 00:30:25,628 --> 00:30:27,908 Speaker 9: One of the best catches you've ever seen, guys, And 673 00:30:27,988 --> 00:30:30,028 Speaker 9: you look at the cleats in the neon. It was 674 00:30:30,068 --> 00:30:33,108 Speaker 9: a Thursday night game. Jared Goff would lead the Rams 675 00:30:33,148 --> 00:30:35,668 Speaker 9: all the way back when it wasn't enough, the Seahawks 676 00:30:35,668 --> 00:30:38,308 Speaker 9: would win that evening in twenty nineteen. IA think I 677 00:30:38,388 --> 00:30:41,308 Speaker 9: say all this because we got to appreciate Tyler Lockett's 678 00:30:41,308 --> 00:30:44,308 Speaker 9: career as a Seahawks And yet the all time leader 679 00:30:44,468 --> 00:30:48,548 Speaker 9: in receptions, receiving yards, and receiving touchdowns, it's Hall of 680 00:30:48,628 --> 00:30:52,308 Speaker 9: Famer Steve Largin. So my question to you, Isaac christ 681 00:30:52,388 --> 00:30:56,708 Speaker 9: and Isaac who is second all time in Seahawks history 682 00:30:56,948 --> 00:31:01,508 Speaker 9: in receptions, receiving yards, and receiving touchdowns. 683 00:31:02,148 --> 00:31:06,308 Speaker 2: Steve Largin is first? Who is second all three of 684 00:31:06,388 --> 00:31:07,348 Speaker 2: those categories? 685 00:31:07,948 --> 00:31:11,428 Speaker 9: Is it Dk Metcalf, Is it Doug Baldwin, is it 686 00:31:11,588 --> 00:31:12,468 Speaker 9: Tyler Lockett? 687 00:31:13,268 --> 00:31:17,068 Speaker 2: Or is it Ohio State? And Buck Eye legend Joey Galloway. 688 00:31:17,908 --> 00:31:18,708 Speaker 4: This is a tough one. 689 00:31:18,828 --> 00:31:22,188 Speaker 6: I want to say Dk Metcalf, but I feel like 690 00:31:22,348 --> 00:31:26,388 Speaker 6: his his tenure there wasn't long enough, so I'm eliminating him. Also, 691 00:31:26,548 --> 00:31:28,108 Speaker 6: before I answer this, we do have to take a 692 00:31:28,188 --> 00:31:30,668 Speaker 6: second to just appreciate those jerseys. By the way, those 693 00:31:30,708 --> 00:31:38,028 Speaker 6: were unbelievable. All right, I think I'm gonna go. I 694 00:31:38,348 --> 00:31:40,468 Speaker 6: feel like for the for the culture, and for the question. 695 00:31:40,548 --> 00:31:40,948 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. 696 00:31:41,028 --> 00:31:41,588 Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett. 697 00:31:41,668 --> 00:31:43,468 Speaker 4: Why would I not low hanging fruit? 698 00:31:43,668 --> 00:31:45,628 Speaker 3: He saren By, Come on, it makes. 699 00:31:45,468 --> 00:31:52,428 Speaker 2: Sense, right, you tell us The correct answer is Tyler Lockett. 700 00:31:56,228 --> 00:31:57,868 Speaker 4: Was kind of trick it. 701 00:31:58,948 --> 00:32:00,268 Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett is right. 702 00:32:00,868 --> 00:32:03,988 Speaker 9: Tyler Lockett, one of the great Seattle Seahawks, makes all 703 00:32:04,108 --> 00:32:09,308 Speaker 9: time second in receptions, second in receiving yards, and second 704 00:32:09,348 --> 00:32:12,748 Speaker 9: in receiving touchdowns. Old time for this team again, Russ, 705 00:32:12,788 --> 00:32:15,548 Speaker 9: of course had many years. He and Gino had many 706 00:32:15,628 --> 00:32:19,148 Speaker 9: good years. Shout out to Tyler Lockett, a free agent 707 00:32:19,188 --> 00:32:20,548 Speaker 9: who still wants to play. 708 00:32:21,068 --> 00:32:23,748 Speaker 2: He could be had by your team as early as today. 709 00:32:23,788 --> 00:32:25,228 Speaker 2: You know what if Russ starts for a team this 710 00:32:25,348 --> 00:32:26,868 Speaker 2: year that you're bringing Lockett as that, if you bring 711 00:32:26,948 --> 00:32:28,948 Speaker 2: them in, yeah, I would love that. All right. 712 00:32:29,468 --> 00:32:31,748 Speaker 9: Now we've got one more and there's another free agent 713 00:32:31,868 --> 00:32:33,668 Speaker 9: wide receiver who still has yet to be signed. 714 00:32:33,788 --> 00:32:37,468 Speaker 2: We got to play with here. Free agent Brandon Cooks. 715 00:32:37,668 --> 00:32:42,908 Speaker 9: Oh yes, always has had one thousand yards seasons, okay, 716 00:32:43,468 --> 00:32:49,668 Speaker 9: with four different NFL franchises. He's caught a million touchdown passes, 717 00:32:50,028 --> 00:32:54,508 Speaker 9: but he's only had two rushing touchdowns. My question for 718 00:32:54,628 --> 00:33:01,028 Speaker 9: you guys, which quarterback hand in Brandon Cooks his first 719 00:33:01,228 --> 00:33:05,508 Speaker 9: rushing touchdown in Week eight, twenty fourteen. Is it A 720 00:33:05,868 --> 00:33:09,628 Speaker 9: Drew Brees, Is it B Jared Golf? Is it C 721 00:33:09,948 --> 00:33:14,428 Speaker 9: Tom Brady? Or is it D Davis Mills. We're gonna 722 00:33:14,468 --> 00:33:19,708 Speaker 9: go horizontally and we're gonna start with Jason. We're gonna 723 00:33:19,748 --> 00:33:23,748 Speaker 9: go to Jamie then and then Kyle, then Isaacs Jason. 724 00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:26,668 Speaker 9: Those are four quarterbacks that all played with Brandon kutz 725 00:33:26,748 --> 00:33:27,828 Speaker 9: down who handed him. 726 00:33:27,748 --> 00:33:30,068 Speaker 2: The ball on his first rushing touchdown. 727 00:33:30,628 --> 00:33:34,148 Speaker 10: This is a really tough one. Oh no, it's not 728 00:33:34,348 --> 00:33:37,908 Speaker 10: TV twelve. I know it is not Jared Golf. I'm 729 00:33:37,948 --> 00:33:39,708 Speaker 10: gonna go with a Drew Brees. 730 00:33:41,788 --> 00:33:43,908 Speaker 3: Why do you know it's not TV twelve. I was 731 00:33:43,948 --> 00:33:44,868 Speaker 3: gonna go TV twelve. 732 00:33:44,868 --> 00:33:47,668 Speaker 5: I was just finishing my tenure in Boston and he 733 00:33:47,948 --> 00:33:49,428 Speaker 5: was there and they were there, and I'm gonna go 734 00:33:49,508 --> 00:33:53,028 Speaker 5: see so I'm Brady, I'm up. 735 00:33:53,188 --> 00:33:54,588 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been going over across the board. 736 00:33:55,708 --> 00:33:58,548 Speaker 1: I hope that it's Davis Mills because I love Davis 737 00:33:58,628 --> 00:34:00,148 Speaker 1: Mills for all kinds. 738 00:33:59,948 --> 00:34:02,428 Speaker 2: Of history reasons on the show. But I will go 739 00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:04,748 Speaker 2: Drew Brees A Drew Brees. 740 00:34:05,108 --> 00:34:06,948 Speaker 4: Uh is that Chargers Drew Brees still? 741 00:34:07,028 --> 00:34:10,148 Speaker 2: Either way, Drew Brees a Saint Drew Brees. 742 00:34:10,948 --> 00:34:13,308 Speaker 6: I mean, for me, it only makes sense based on 743 00:34:13,388 --> 00:34:14,108 Speaker 6: which you guys chose. 744 00:34:14,108 --> 00:34:17,068 Speaker 4: I'm going Golf. I'm gonna rock with Golf. I'm a 745 00:34:17,108 --> 00:34:19,388 Speaker 4: fan of him, heared Goff. Final answer. 746 00:34:21,388 --> 00:34:23,468 Speaker 9: All right, Brandon Cooks is currently a free agent. He 747 00:34:23,548 --> 00:34:26,188 Speaker 9: could be had by anybody. One guy he will not 748 00:34:26,468 --> 00:34:29,908 Speaker 9: be catching or heading offs from is this guy. Let's 749 00:34:29,948 --> 00:34:31,948 Speaker 9: go to Collinsworth and Tariico for the. 750 00:34:32,028 --> 00:34:37,348 Speaker 13: Ensign Green Bay is the show pointed out before the 751 00:34:37,428 --> 00:34:40,508 Speaker 13: game Linus sam Shield, So we'll see a lot of house. Tonight, 752 00:34:40,708 --> 00:34:43,628 Speaker 13: we'll also see a lot of Brandon Cooks who goes 753 00:34:43,708 --> 00:34:49,508 Speaker 13: into the touchdown their number one draft choice a a receiver, 754 00:34:49,668 --> 00:34:51,628 Speaker 13: and he runs into the end zone. 755 00:34:53,588 --> 00:34:56,308 Speaker 12: The old jet sweep where you saw Percy Harvin in 756 00:34:56,388 --> 00:34:58,428 Speaker 12: the Super Bowl. Here it comes and before you can 757 00:34:58,468 --> 00:35:01,388 Speaker 12: figure out what happens, you got him in the inZone. 758 00:35:01,468 --> 00:35:05,108 Speaker 12: Brandon Books one of those guys that Shan Payton said, 759 00:35:05,148 --> 00:35:08,028 Speaker 12: we just have to get him the football more often. 760 00:35:08,108 --> 00:35:10,708 Speaker 12: I don't know how exactly, but I have to find 761 00:35:10,748 --> 00:35:12,588 Speaker 12: a way. I feel like I'm slowing. 762 00:35:12,348 --> 00:35:12,948 Speaker 2: Him down. 763 00:35:15,988 --> 00:35:19,748 Speaker 4: Ten years ago. Man. Let's go. 764 00:35:21,188 --> 00:35:24,668 Speaker 9: Hey Jason, well done, you got both their questions right. 765 00:35:24,708 --> 00:35:25,748 Speaker 2: But everybody, well done. 766 00:35:25,828 --> 00:35:28,468 Speaker 9: And to the viewers at home, all of these wide receivers, 767 00:35:29,028 --> 00:35:31,068 Speaker 9: they could all still be had by your teams. 768 00:35:31,348 --> 00:35:33,108 Speaker 2: Hank type, Fridge and Frenzy. 769 00:35:32,868 --> 00:35:33,428 Speaker 4: Is not done. 770 00:35:34,028 --> 00:35:36,828 Speaker 2: Hopefully they will all fight home soon. Thank you, everybody. 771 00:35:36,868 --> 00:35:38,508 Speaker 2: Great job, job, Peter, my great. 772 00:35:38,348 --> 00:35:40,668 Speaker 3: Favorite week of trivia. Well time, Peter. 773 00:35:41,188 --> 00:35:41,388 Speaker 4: Job. 774 00:35:41,668 --> 00:35:44,468 Speaker 5: There you go, Isaac take it home on the jerseys, buddy. 775 00:35:45,348 --> 00:35:47,508 Speaker 6: We should just all stare at these for a second. 776 00:35:47,548 --> 00:35:50,148 Speaker 6: And I also love watching Prime Russ. 777 00:35:51,828 --> 00:35:59,748 Speaker 5: He's also available, everybody, Yes he is. We're back on VMFF, 778 00:35:59,948 --> 00:36:02,188 Speaker 5: and the beauty of having guys like Jason Convinda sit 779 00:36:02,268 --> 00:36:03,868 Speaker 5: at the table is that we get to go back 780 00:36:03,908 --> 00:36:06,388 Speaker 5: and unearth moments that we talked about on this show. 781 00:36:06,468 --> 00:36:08,268 Speaker 3: But now that you're here, you have to talk about them. 782 00:36:08,308 --> 00:36:09,788 Speaker 5: So we're gonna go to the twenty twenty two Hard 783 00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:13,268 Speaker 5: Knocks episode and the whole season in training Camp feature 784 00:36:13,268 --> 00:36:16,988 Speaker 5: the Detroit Lions. There was a moment a staredown that Cominda, 785 00:36:17,028 --> 00:36:19,068 Speaker 5: you just said in the break we will never get 786 00:36:19,108 --> 00:36:19,468 Speaker 5: over this. 787 00:36:19,708 --> 00:36:21,588 Speaker 3: So walk us through what was happening here Dan Campbell. 788 00:36:22,388 --> 00:36:25,108 Speaker 10: Dan was actually at this time talking about what kind 789 00:36:25,148 --> 00:36:27,468 Speaker 10: of mentality we were gonna have as a team, and 790 00:36:27,508 --> 00:36:30,668 Speaker 10: I remember he was talking about, you know, we're gonna 791 00:36:30,828 --> 00:36:33,188 Speaker 10: play faster, we're gonna play harder, We're gonna be the 792 00:36:33,268 --> 00:36:35,788 Speaker 10: tougher team, we're gonna be the smarter team. And then 793 00:36:35,868 --> 00:36:37,508 Speaker 10: you got to talking about what kind of team we're 794 00:36:37,508 --> 00:36:39,108 Speaker 10: gonna be and how we're gonna drag teams. 795 00:36:38,948 --> 00:36:39,468 Speaker 4: Into the water. 796 00:36:39,708 --> 00:36:42,868 Speaker 10: Now, some teams they thrive in shallow water, but some 797 00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:45,308 Speaker 10: teams they can't tread water for long. We're gonna drag 798 00:36:45,428 --> 00:36:48,268 Speaker 10: every team we face into the freaking deep end and 799 00:36:48,348 --> 00:36:50,908 Speaker 10: we're gonna see who can tread the longest, and we 800 00:36:51,028 --> 00:36:53,268 Speaker 10: are gonna be the last team standing. And for those 801 00:36:53,388 --> 00:36:56,428 Speaker 10: guys who don't know, like football is a really emotional game, 802 00:36:56,588 --> 00:36:58,228 Speaker 10: like the amount of emotion you have to channel in 803 00:36:58,348 --> 00:37:00,348 Speaker 10: your heart to go to war. Like we we joke 804 00:37:00,388 --> 00:37:02,348 Speaker 10: and say like, yeah, we play a children's game like this, 805 00:37:02,508 --> 00:37:05,068 Speaker 10: this game is war every single time you go out 806 00:37:05,068 --> 00:37:08,348 Speaker 10: there on Sunday. And you know, just him describing how 807 00:37:08,428 --> 00:37:10,508 Speaker 10: we were gonna tread water the longest, we were gonna 808 00:37:10,548 --> 00:37:12,108 Speaker 10: have the most endurance, and we were. 809 00:37:12,108 --> 00:37:14,428 Speaker 4: Gonna be the ones the last one standing. Man. 810 00:37:14,468 --> 00:37:16,748 Speaker 10: It just had me fired up, man, And I was 811 00:37:16,828 --> 00:37:19,548 Speaker 10: just channeling that emotion I was gonna have on game day. 812 00:37:19,548 --> 00:37:22,268 Speaker 10: As you can see there, Man, I'm freaking fired the 813 00:37:22,388 --> 00:37:22,788 Speaker 10: hell up. 814 00:37:22,908 --> 00:37:25,508 Speaker 5: So Kyle, I can confirm that this is what Kabinda 815 00:37:25,548 --> 00:37:28,548 Speaker 5: looked like during trivia, during Schrager's trivia, he was so 816 00:37:28,948 --> 00:37:29,388 Speaker 5: into this. 817 00:37:31,148 --> 00:37:34,068 Speaker 1: This you never mind, listen, That's how I look right now. 818 00:37:34,508 --> 00:37:38,308 Speaker 1: Cabinda start start gonna start talking again about like how 819 00:37:38,388 --> 00:37:40,628 Speaker 1: football is like a battle and everything, and how you 820 00:37:40,708 --> 00:37:42,028 Speaker 1: got to go out there like a gladiator. 821 00:37:42,108 --> 00:37:42,908 Speaker 2: Just start talking about it. 822 00:37:43,028 --> 00:37:45,548 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, it's war you know, every single play 823 00:37:45,628 --> 00:37:46,788 Speaker 10: you go out there and you have a one on 824 00:37:46,868 --> 00:37:48,588 Speaker 10: one battle that you gotta win, and you got to 825 00:37:48,628 --> 00:37:50,148 Speaker 10: depend on the man to your light left. 826 00:37:50,148 --> 00:37:53,348 Speaker 4: You got to depend on the man. You're right, every single. 827 00:37:57,668 --> 00:38:02,428 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the energy, man, every single play, that's the energy. 828 00:38:02,988 --> 00:38:05,588 Speaker 2: Straight up. Listen the fact that you're sitting there in 829 00:38:05,628 --> 00:38:07,148 Speaker 2: those seats and you're like. 830 00:38:07,148 --> 00:38:09,308 Speaker 1: A couple of seats away from Jamal Williams who's on 831 00:38:09,348 --> 00:38:11,268 Speaker 1: the team at the time, and you're stealing the scene 832 00:38:11,268 --> 00:38:12,708 Speaker 1: because that guy has electricity. 833 00:38:12,868 --> 00:38:14,868 Speaker 2: But we're looking at you. What a room that was? 834 00:38:15,108 --> 00:38:15,668 Speaker 2: It really was. 835 00:38:15,788 --> 00:38:15,948 Speaker 11: Man. 836 00:38:15,988 --> 00:38:18,068 Speaker 10: We had a lot of characters all the time. Man, 837 00:38:18,508 --> 00:38:21,068 Speaker 10: oh my god, that still shot is crazy. 838 00:38:21,148 --> 00:38:21,268 Speaker 4: Man. 839 00:38:21,988 --> 00:38:23,588 Speaker 10: I don't know what was going through my head right 840 00:38:23,628 --> 00:38:25,428 Speaker 10: then and there, but I was definitely ready to run 841 00:38:25,428 --> 00:38:26,188 Speaker 10: through a brick wall right there. 842 00:38:26,188 --> 00:38:30,748 Speaker 9: I'll tell you what, Cabinda, you kind of personified what 843 00:38:30,948 --> 00:38:33,628 Speaker 9: those early Lions Dan Campbell's teams were. 844 00:38:33,788 --> 00:38:35,988 Speaker 2: The caps, you know, kneecaps and all that stuff. 845 00:38:36,028 --> 00:38:39,188 Speaker 9: But it was also like Malcolm Rodriguez, right, like Rodrigue, 846 00:38:39,548 --> 00:38:41,908 Speaker 9: Like it was like those types of guys and Jamal 847 00:38:41,948 --> 00:38:44,828 Speaker 9: Williams and yourself, and it was we're gonna give you 848 00:38:44,988 --> 00:38:48,468 Speaker 9: everything we give you for sixty minutes, and you might 849 00:38:48,548 --> 00:38:50,028 Speaker 9: you might beat us, but we're gonna. 850 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:51,668 Speaker 2: Beat you up in the process, and we're never gonna die. 851 00:38:51,828 --> 00:38:54,388 Speaker 9: I love those early Lions teams when they started turning around, 852 00:38:54,668 --> 00:38:57,868 Speaker 9: and now now they're the darlings of the NFL and 853 00:38:57,948 --> 00:38:59,988 Speaker 9: they're the number one seed in the NFC going into 854 00:38:59,988 --> 00:39:00,508 Speaker 9: the playoffs. 855 00:39:00,588 --> 00:39:02,308 Speaker 2: But I would say this too, Jason. 856 00:39:02,708 --> 00:39:04,308 Speaker 9: I shout you out when you came on the show 857 00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:06,548 Speaker 9: bunch when you were a current player, and a lot 858 00:39:06,588 --> 00:39:08,228 Speaker 9: of it was because you were one of the Walter 859 00:39:08,308 --> 00:39:09,668 Speaker 9: Payton Man of the Year nominees. 860 00:39:09,708 --> 00:39:11,428 Speaker 2: Also, you were huge in that community. 861 00:39:11,828 --> 00:39:14,348 Speaker 9: So I think your place on those early Lions teams 862 00:39:14,388 --> 00:39:17,508 Speaker 9: cannot be understated. Both intensity and full back and all 863 00:39:17,548 --> 00:39:19,828 Speaker 9: that stuff, but also true man of the community, and 864 00:39:19,828 --> 00:39:20,908 Speaker 9: we always respected you for that. 865 00:39:21,228 --> 00:39:23,748 Speaker 10: I appreciate that man. That team was all about grit, 866 00:39:23,828 --> 00:39:26,868 Speaker 10: man and grit. It just means that whatever adversity comes 867 00:39:26,908 --> 00:39:29,508 Speaker 10: your way in life, you gotta be persistent, you got 868 00:39:29,588 --> 00:39:31,388 Speaker 10: to persevere through it, and you gotta find a way. 869 00:39:31,428 --> 00:39:33,228 Speaker 10: And that's the kind of team that we were and 870 00:39:33,388 --> 00:39:35,548 Speaker 10: that Detroit Lions has personified. 871 00:39:35,588 --> 00:39:37,388 Speaker 4: And that's just the identity of that team. 872 00:39:37,428 --> 00:39:39,308 Speaker 2: Man, it's grit and it's written all. 873 00:39:39,268 --> 00:39:41,588 Speaker 10: Over the walls inside of that building, over the Detroit 874 00:39:41,668 --> 00:39:42,388 Speaker 10: Lions facility. 875 00:39:42,628 --> 00:39:44,708 Speaker 5: And sitting next to you now on the second day, Jason, 876 00:39:44,748 --> 00:39:46,588 Speaker 5: I can truly believe that you could have done anything 877 00:39:46,708 --> 00:39:48,228 Speaker 5: post playing and you could have been a coach in 878 00:39:48,308 --> 00:39:50,388 Speaker 5: that room with that man, because if you look like 879 00:39:50,468 --> 00:39:52,788 Speaker 5: that when he's talking, that means you personify it. 880 00:39:52,868 --> 00:39:54,388 Speaker 3: Jason committed to everybody. Well done,