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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to a brand new season

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Speaker 1: of Point Game Season two. I am so so excited

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Speaker 1: because we are joined by my brand new co host,

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Speaker 1: because we all know we're not tuning in because of me,

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Speaker 1: despite all the stuff I've done in the league and

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Speaker 1: around it. But I'm so so excited. When there was

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Speaker 1: talks about getting this guy, I was like, we can't

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Speaker 1: do the show with Adham. Probably see him on screen

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Speaker 1: right here, right now, but I'm going to give you

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Speaker 1: some credentials here. Twelve year NBA pro, one of the

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Speaker 1: best guards of the twenty ten's going to the twenties era,

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Speaker 1: two time All Star, one of the lowest draft picks

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Speaker 1: to ever make an All Star team. He holds a

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Speaker 1: regular season for points in a fourth quarter, with twenty

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Speaker 1: nine of his fifty two coming in over a win

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Speaker 1: over the Heat in twenty sixteen. We'll get to that's

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Speaker 1: a nickname Why nickname got creative later on, But please,

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Speaker 1: everybody welcome my new host for Point Game Season two,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas.

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Speaker 2: It what's up, man, man?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? I appreciate you having me. This should

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Speaker 3: be a fun season. I'm excited about all of this.

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Speaker 3: Man my first time. I'm a rookie right now, I'm

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Speaker 3: a rookie all over again.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into I mean, you've never failed to impress,

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Speaker 1: and I know we've been always so excited NB fan.

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Speaker 1: I've been a fan my whole life, and when you

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Speaker 1: came into the league, it was just like all eyes

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Speaker 1: on you. You've been on some incredible teams, You've had some

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Speaker 1: insane playoff victories. I'm just like putting up crazy scoring.

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Speaker 1: You just have a very rich career in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So one, I'm excited to hear those stories, and two,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear your take on today's game. And

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Speaker 1: so that's just like a little bit of a preview

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Speaker 1: we're going to see this season. So I just want

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Speaker 1: to I guess I want to give a reminder to

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Speaker 1: the fans out there. You know, I said, have all

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Speaker 1: your accomplishments, and you're probably gonna acomplish even more coming up.

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Speaker 1: But I would love to hear like you've been up

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Speaker 1: to and why now for a podcast.

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Speaker 2: First off, like I said, thanks for having me. This

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Speaker 2: is this is super dope.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about this opportunity to you know, be able

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Speaker 3: to talk the game of basketball, to be able to

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Speaker 3: talk today's game when I was playing all of those things,

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Speaker 3: and then just the everyday life. But for me just

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Speaker 3: you know, being around my family, raising my kids. I

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Speaker 3: got three beautiful kids. I got a high schooler now,

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Speaker 3: so life is life is going very fast. Then I

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Speaker 3: a full house. There's no there's no breaks at all.

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Speaker 3: Other than working out daily, I'm taking care of them,

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Speaker 3: being their uber, being their driver, their taxi, all of that. So,

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Speaker 3: like I said, other than staying on the slow grind, bro,

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Speaker 3: I'm just really doing what my kids need me to

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Speaker 3: do and being a family for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well let's talk about that, the slow grind, because you

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Speaker 1: got to sign behind you and anyone who's been following

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Speaker 1: me the last few years, it's been cool to see

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Speaker 1: slow Grind kind of take off. I'd love to hear

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Speaker 1: sort of the definition of that and why you created that,

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Speaker 1: and you know, because it's also another presenting sponsor of

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Speaker 1: the show, so we'd love to hear more about slow

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Speaker 1: grind man.

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Speaker 3: Slow grind is just really it came about when I

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Speaker 3: friends with I was really good friends with Nipsey Hussele

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Speaker 3: who had his mantra was the marathon. So it just

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Speaker 3: it just made since, man, and it's for all walks

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Speaker 3: of life. It's not just for basketball. So you know,

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Speaker 3: anything that you want, any type of success, never comes

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Speaker 3: made that my brand. Man, That's something that I live by.

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Speaker 2: We got to meet.

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Speaker 3: We got a production company as well, so we we like,

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Speaker 3: we like building and making content. We've done a lot

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Speaker 1: I love that. I mean I'm excited to see you

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Speaker 1: take that approach with this podcast already. It's like I

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Speaker 1: feel like I've been podcasting with you for a few

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Speaker 1: years now, so it's only going to get better of

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Speaker 1: the season. Now we we last all you play some

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Speaker 1: to hear, like, how are you touching the game of

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Speaker 2: First off, like I'm staying ready.

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Speaker 3: I want to play one more year in the league,

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Speaker 3: So other than staying ready and staying in the gym,

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Speaker 2: So being able to.

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Speaker 1: Now, So that's crazy. I mean that's I got two kids,

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Speaker 1: the fact that you're still staying ready, you know, you're

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Speaker 3: They're they're pretty good, like they My oldest is starting to,

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Speaker 3: he's into everything, but he he he's really good at

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Speaker 1: How often are they pulling up old game tape or

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Speaker 3: Every now and then they're like, I'm I'm so much

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Speaker 2: So it's like, my oldest really likes watching the game

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Speaker 2: He's like, Dad, can you hop on this beat that

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Speaker 2: So just being there for them along their journey is

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Speaker 2: Clips of me. They think I'm really old man. They don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't, they don't. They don't show me the love

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Speaker 2: I feel like I deserve. But it's all good, man.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because the thing is like half the dudes

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Speaker 3: So that's what I tell them too, is like, man,

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Speaker 2: That's you.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing like that I could tell my kids,

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Speaker 1: but uh, you know, so we're gonna go through this

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Speaker 1: you break down that, just you know, on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 1: Here one more thing, because this is out of curiosity.

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Speaker 1: When I was just doing a little bit of research,

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Speaker 1: you know, when we were starting this podcast with you,

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Speaker 1: obviously I knew the one nickname you had King of

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Speaker 1: the fourth Quarter, which is you know, you went off

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. It was like, no, no lead

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Speaker 1: was safe with you guys or playing against you guys,

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Speaker 1: But this one I saw pizza guy. Can you please

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Speaker 1: give some context as to why people called you pizza guy.

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Speaker 3: Look, the pizza guy came from I had, I had

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Speaker 3: a good I had a nice little One of my

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Speaker 3: first endorsement deals was with a pizza company called Pizza

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Speaker 3: Guys back in Sacramento, and it was my first three

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Speaker 1: I promise to you right now, I'm not gonna call

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Speaker 2: So we do the best we can with just like

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Speaker 3: I got a basketball tournament called the Zeken, this big

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Speaker 1: I love that. I mean nothing beats nineties Sonics gear.

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Speaker 1: back to Point Game, my co host Isaiah Thomas. Now

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Speaker 1: it this season. It's underway, only two weeks, but I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, you know, when guys like that

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Speaker 3: one one dimensional on the game of basketball no more.

436
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,879
Speaker 3: And he's showing you at any height you're able to

437
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 3: do any and everything.

438
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it's so funny you talk about him

439
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: not primarily going loan in the post. It's like the

440
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: more we people hackle him about that, he's gonna come

441
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: back one summer with that post game. It was like

442
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: jan it is the same thing, like and like joann

443
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: Is it took a few years, Like he got to

444
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: go in the jam like Wenby already has that. So

445
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,959
Speaker 1: it's like the more criticisms to this guy, the more

446
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: he's just gonna go and work on his game and

447
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: pick up those tricks for his arsenal.

448
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt.

449
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 3: You could just tell if you listen to his interviews

450
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: or if you just ever interacted with him, that he's

451
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 3: a student of the game and that he wants he

452
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: wants to get better. That's why he done so many

453
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: things this summer. Like he really tapped into things that

454
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 3: nobody would tap into. He's he met with people that

455
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: you might be scared to ask questions too, Like he

456
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: doesn't care. And I feel like like that was something

457
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 3: I did at a high level as well, you know,

458
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: not to talk about myself, but like reaching out, reaching

459
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 3: out to guys before me, reaching out to guys I

460
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: looked up to, like having no pride in doing that,

461
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 3: and I think half the battle, Like, especially as a

462
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 3: young player, if you're able to have no pride or

463
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: no ego in asking questions. The guys you've looked up

464
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 3: to are guys you compete with. It's like, man, you're

465
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 3: the only going to get further. The guy with the

466
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: most information, especially at a young age, usually is the

467
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 3: guy that is a little further ahead when it comes to,

468
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: you know, his progression in the game of basketball.

469
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean those things that you were describing off season,

470
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: it was like not even basketball related, it was like

471
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: spending time in a Showlin temple, you know, playing soccer.

472
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: Like maybe that's what it is. I mean, obviously you

473
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: got to grind, play hoop and you know, got a

474
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: hoop and whatnot. But sometimes it's probably good to just

475
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: go experience life a little bit.

476
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is, because so much of your life,

477
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 3: especially once you get to the NBA, is about the

478
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 3: game of basketball. You got to find other walks of

479
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: life that are similar to your drive in the game

480
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 3: of basketball, if that makes sense, Like finding guys in

481
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 3: other sports, talking to guys at the level that you're at,

482
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: talking to guys people that are in different professions and

483
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: seeing how they how they work through their journey. Those

484
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 3: are all ways to get better at the at at

485
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 3: your mental side of the because at some point, especially

486
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: at the professional level, you got to find ways to

487
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 3: be different from the next guy. It's not all about

488
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: you know, your physical your physicality, your athleticism. It's like

489
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: what's in between your ears is most important once you

490
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: get to that level. And I think he's mastered that

491
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: at a young age. Like and if you see like

492
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: he's reading books all the time, like he's doing stuff.

493
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 3: Guys his age are not even thinking about that's crazy.

494
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: Well, I did want to give props also to the

495
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: supporting cast that they're building around him. Is also just

496
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 1: I think someone said it was like, this wasn't supposed

497
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: to be the year where we're keeping an eye on

498
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: them as a contender, but they've already made the lead

499
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 1: because you know, they have Castle, they just drafted, doing

500
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: Harper's already making you know, impact right off the jump,

501
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: like six games in, and then they have a new

502
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: head coach. This is gonna be his first full season

503
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: because Papovich, as we all know, step down Mitch Johnson,

504
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: who before the recording you actually drop some knowledge that

505
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: you have a connection with Mitch.

506
00:23:59,480 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

507
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: I got a real close connection with miss Mitch. We

508
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: played in the same AAU program when he was I

509
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 3: was a young buck at that time. He was a

510
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: senior in high school going into a senior year. But

511
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: that's a guy that you know, that I've looked up

512
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: to since I was young. You always vision him being

513
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 3: a coach at some point. Stanford graduate really really smart

514
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 3: point guard, Like I said, somebody in this area people

515
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: talk highly of in the game of basketball. So it's

516
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: super cool to see him have success not only be

517
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: the coach of the San Antonio Spurs at a young age,

518
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: but have the early success that they've had this year

519
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: because I know his preparation is is a one I know,

520
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: I know he's he's learned so much from you know,

521
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 3: legendary coach and pop a vision just being around the

522
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 3: Spurs organization. So like you said, they're they're they're role players,

523
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: and their guys around Winby are are really good. Like

524
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: even though, like like you said, this might not be

525
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: the year that they were suppor to be good, but

526
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: it's like their best player has take leaps and bounds

527
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 3: in terms of his progression that they can only follow

528
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: suit and becoming better and being good and everybody's development

529
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: going faster. So I'm excited to see where the Spurs

530
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: go this season. Before the year, I was one of

531
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: those guys that was like, man, they're a couple of

532
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 3: years away. But it's like, man, from like you said,

533
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: it's only been two weeks, but from what we've seen,

534
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 3: it's like they have that energy of a team that's

535
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: like really trying to prove that they're here right now.

536
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's perfect segue into just this younger generation

537
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: that has been playing for a couple of years, and

538
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: then these new rookies this season, because you know, we

539
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: were talking about like the Thunder only two years that

540
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, yeah, they made the second round, you know,

541
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: they whatever, and now they just won the title last year.

542
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: So I guess, like, who are some of the newer

543
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: guys even starting with this rookie class that you've been

544
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: really enjoying and think are gonna, you know, make a

545
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: big impact in the league.

546
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: I think overall, Cooper Flag is going to be a

547
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: really good NBA player. Obviously, he's going to have his

548
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: early struggles with being on a really good team to

549
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: start and to be thrown in the fire of playing

550
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: point guard to start the year off, which is something

551
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 3: he's probably never done before. So I expect him to

552
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 3: have struggles, But for an overall career, I think he's

553
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: gonna have an amazing career. One of my favorites is

554
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: Dylan Harper with the Spurs. I went to go see

555
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: him play my alma mater in Washington last year when

556
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: Rutgers came down and played in Seattle, So it was

557
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: it was dope to see him in person and see,

558
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 3: you know, how good he can be, how good he is,

559
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: So that's one the kid over in Philadelphia, VJ.

560
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: VJ.

561
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: Edgecombe who is like, oh my, I watched.

562
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 3: Him last year though, and I can I can honestly

563
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: say last year when I seen him at Baylor, I'm like, man,

564
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 3: he's gonna be He's gonna be an amazing pro because

565
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: the game, once you get to the NBA and you

566
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: got handles, you can shoot your athletic, the game opens

567
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: up for you where the game is going to be

568
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 3: a little easier for you than it was in college.

569
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see where his where his future

570
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: takes him. He's had a hell of a start to

571
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: the season. I don't think anybody expected this out of him,

572
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: you know, to start the year. I think when those

573
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: guys do come back in and being and Paul George,

574
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: he will have an adjustment period where he's going to

575
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 3: have to adjust because he's not going to be.

576
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: Where he's you know, basically the second option right now.

577
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 3: But I think overall, like Philly's gonna have some the

578
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: decisions to make soon and in terms of what direction

579
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 3: they're going to go in with somebody like him, because

580
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: he's I don't think anybody expected what he's shown so

581
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: far out of him right now, like he's he's surprising

582
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: a lot of guys in the league, and I'm I'm

583
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: I'm happy for his future for sure.

584
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because I've been watching VJ and first

585
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: all that Celtics game the other night. I don't know

586
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: if you saw that, but like late game shots, just

587
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: like some clutch shots already, that's a rookie and so

588
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: and you got on the bench, you got Paul George's recovering,

589
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: you got even Jared McCain, who they were saying was

590
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: next up, you know, like it just to cut you off.

591
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a tough one.

592
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: I know when I say about decisions to make, I

593
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 3: know he's hurt right now, but it's like that's tough,

594
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: Like he was supposed to be the guy coming in,

595
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: but he's been hurt the last two years now, a

596
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: guy that just taking the league by storms.

597
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: Like those are tough little decisions. Not saying you got

598
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 2: to make any right now.

599
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: Obviously it's early, but when those guys come back, it's

600
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: gonna be like you only got one basketball and you

601
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 3: only got a certain amount of minutes. You guys can

602
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: you guys can have so not to cut you off,

603
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 3: but that's that's that's a good topic to talk about.

604
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, for future future conversation.

605
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: Well, I guess what's on my mind is like a

606
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: lot of these the guys who are are sitting right

607
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: now because they weren't healthy to start season, who are

608
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: vets and they're superstars and they're seeing their team have success.

609
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Like what even putting yourself in that position? Like like,

610
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: what what's your mindset when you get ready to come back?

611
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Is it, hey, I'm a VET, I'm an you know,

612
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: is it a pass the torch situation? Or is it

613
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: like no, it's my time. You know, I still got

614
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: I still got you know, juice, Like I still gotta play.

615
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Like even I'm talking about even like Lebron over in

616
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: the Lakers, who has played you know, season twenty two

617
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: and like you know all these plays. Even Darren Fox

618
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: is young, but like he's a VET who's still waiting

619
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: to play over in San Antonio. So, like, what what's

620
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: sort of the mindset that some of these guys are

621
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna have coming back healthy and their team's already off

622
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: to a great start.

623
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 3: Honestly, I the like the superstar type of guys I

624
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: think it would be more of adjustment for the other

625
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: players because you know, he comes back, say it's Paul

626
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: George or Lebron, he comes back in you got to

627
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: make stuff happen for that guy. So like it's not that, yeah,

628
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: when you come back, you don't want to step on

629
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: anybody's toes, especially if the team has been playing well.

630
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: That's something that's always in the back of your mind,

631
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 3: like I don't want to mess things up. But at

632
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: the same time, when you're one of those the star

633
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: guys or you're one of the franchise guys, everybody else

634
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: kind of got to adjust to how you're gonna play,

635
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: and there's going to be an adjustment with the coaching staff.

636
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: There's gonna be adjustment with guys minutes and how they

637
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: play it and how they're going to play for now

638
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: one that the guy is back.

639
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: So it's a it's a tough situation.

640
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: But I think a guy like Lebron is like everybody else,

641
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: kind of got to adjust and see what check his

642
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: temperature and see how he's playing and how he's going

643
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: to do. A guy like Paul George over in Philly,

644
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: it's going to be an adjustment for VJ. Because he's

645
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: the rookie, and you got to see how healthy Paul

646
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: George will be, how how in shape he's going to

647
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: be coming back, So you got it. I mean, it's

648
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: different situations for different scenarios. So, but if you're a

649
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: role player, that's always tough, especially if guys are playing good.

650
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: You're coming back and you don't want to step on

651
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: nobody's toes. You don't want to mess things up. You

652
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: feel like if things start to happen bad, is your fault. Yeah,

653
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: so it's it's it's a lot that goes into it,

654
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: but you gotta be good at controlling what you can.

655
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: Like the coach is going to try to put you

656
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: in put position to be successful. You got to take

657
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Speaker 3: advantage of that opportunity.

658
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Speaker 1: I just think it's you know, we kind of have

659
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: seen guys like in history of this league, you know,

660
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: where they could have been a superstar from the jump,

661
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: but they were sort of just like playing the waiting game,

662
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: coming off the bench and whatnot. And I'm speaking about

663
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: guys like James Harden even SGA, like you know, the Clippers,

664
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Speaker 1: and then the second you know there's situation changes, they're superstars.

665
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think it's incredible that VJ has

666
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: found this confidence right away that it's going to figure

667
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: itself out, you know. And it's like also, like you said,

668
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: it's like there's some great mentorship on the way, you know,

669
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Speaker 1: with a lot of these a lot of these teams

670
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Speaker 1: and players coming up. Okay, great. So we're gonna take

671
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: another break here when we come back. There's another superstar

672
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: that I wanted to get your take on in John

673
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Moran over in Memphis, Chrissy. So and we'll come back

674
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: here on one game and talk more about that. All right,

675
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: back on point game. Our producer actually reminded us of

676
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Speaker 1: a great before we move on from the topic of Wemby,

677
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: I have a great Winby tweet that you sort of

678
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: dropped that has a little bit of controversy. You said

679
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: that this season Wemby, people are saying MVP, but you

680
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: said that he could also potentially get most improved Player.

681
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Why why are you thinking that, Like the guy is

682
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: already I don't know if you can improve from superstar

683
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: to this guy shouldn't play basketball because he's unfair.

684
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: So look this how I break it down, I said,

685
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: I said, I think Wemby's up for he can get MVP,

686
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the.

687
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: Year, and Most Improved in one year. How he came

688
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: out the gate.

689
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: So an average fan or somebody might be like, Okay,

690
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: well he was the number one pick, He's an All Star.

691
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: How is he going to be most improved? Leave that

692
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: for somebody that maybe changed roles or gat more minutes.

693
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: Because it's like, if you break it down like this,

694
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 3: say it I average twenty points a game, twenty and

695
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 3: five in one year, then the next year I come

696
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: back and average thirty and ten.

697
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: How can Why am I not in consideration for most improved?

698
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: Like I'm saying that the significant jumping improvement should have

699
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: somebody in consideration, no matter if they were second team

700
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: All NBA last year, if they were an All Star, like,

701
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: they's still a jump you can make. Now, I say,

702
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: if it's from twenty points a game to twenty three, No,

703
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: it got to be like a huge jump to where

704
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: somebody like Weinby that can possibly average twenty eight, fifteen rebounds,

705
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: nine assists, six blocks. How is he not in consideration?

706
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: He should get every award? Like, So that's how I

707
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: want to like break it down to an average fan

708
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: that you know, questions my take on if he should

709
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: be most improved or even in consideration.

710
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: No, it's just it's not ridiculous. I genuinely just think

711
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: fans are like save the awards for other people. But

712
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: like again, we're we're we've met to get there.

713
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 3: I get that, but but that's if it's a huge jump,

714
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: like just put me in consideration at least, like, don't

715
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: take that away from me at all.

716
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean, people that the argument comes up for like

717
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: giving Yokic winning MVP again, They're like, he can't give

718
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: it to him.

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Speaker 3: That's what sucks because everybody is like they get bored

720
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 3: with how things are, Like he if he if he's

721
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: supposed to win MVP five years of row, give it

722
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 3: to him. I even say that even about Lebron. Lebron

723
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: hasn't won the MVP in what twelve years and he

724
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: has four of them. That's crazy, Like that's just the

725
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: world getting bored. Like even Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan should

726
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: probably have more than six or having any MVPs he

727
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: has like six. You know, the world, the world gets

728
00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: bored with with with things that are with our consistently great.

729
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: People love to when the MVP conversation happens, it's a

730
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: lot people forget. It's like so narrative based. It's like,

731
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think like even going back

732
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 1: to that Rust year where he averaged a triple double,

733
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: like he averaged a triple double more than one year

734
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: and he only won the MVP one year. But it

735
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: was like part of that was you know, KD left,

736
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: James left, and they were like, oh, it was in trouble,

737
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: he is doing it, but he did it again.

738
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 3: You know.

739
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: It's like which in in ways it is cool. It's

740
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: like putting spotlights on different players in the league. But

741
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: you're right, if you earn it, you earn it.

742
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 3: Especially in the Big Boy League. It's like this saying,

743
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 3: everybody get a trophy. Yeah, if he's the best, like

744
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: just let's let's not question that he's the best.

745
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: Now the awards ceremony will be real sure will just

746
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: be like Wemby with all this ches on the table.

747
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: Now, in a few years, it's over for anybody, you know,

748
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: getting awards him.

749
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: I wanted to shift gears here. I wanted to talk about, uh,

750
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, there are some teams struggling out there. One

751
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: of them being Memphis Grizzlies and John Marian and John

752
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Moran just re some stories have been coming out that,

753
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, one he got suspended for conduct detrimental and

754
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: saying that there's been several reports that him and his

755
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: coach aren't getting along. What do you think about the

756
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: situation over there with jaw And you know, I think

757
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: some places are even saying that he could be shocked around,

758
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: which to me, I think is ridiculous. Would love to

759
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: hear your.

760
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: Taking crazy crazy. It's tough because, like.

761
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: It's hard to comment on those things because I'm not

762
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: in the locker room, but obviously I experienced those things

763
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 3: as a player, not only like individually, but teammates and

764
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: as well. So to see that and obviously to see

765
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 3: he get a one game suspension, so it had to

766
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: be some type of back and forth in front of

767
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 3: people or in front of the whole team, which always

768
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: can't happen, but things like that do happen in professional sports.

769
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: Things like that do happen after a heated game where

770
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 3: you know a player or coach doesn't see eye to eye,

771
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: or a player or a player doesn't see ida.

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00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: I think in his situation as being the franchise player.

773
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: You gotta be better.

774
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be better, not just only for yourself,

775
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: for your teammates, for your coaching staff, or your organization.

776
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: I think I've seen some quotes on talking about it.

777
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: So he didn't have the best game that he would.

778
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: Like to have. What went wrong for you today?

779
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: Or go as stout.

780
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: From the outside and that I said, maybe wrong. But

781
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: from the outside it didn't look like you had your

782
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: usual energy tonight.

783
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: Start okay, he said, like you should play more.

784
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: It's hard to speak on it because I wasn't in there,

785
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: but from experience, John, you gotta take those to the chin.

786
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: You gotta.

787
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: You gotta being the franchise guy, sometimes you gotta take

788
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: the blame. I remember sometimes I would be having when

789
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: I was in Boston, have sit downs with Brad Stevens.

790
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: We didn't see eye to eye.

791
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: All the time, but at times like we would have

792
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: heated battles during the game before the game, I mean

793
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 3: not before the game, but after the game at times.

794
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: Then we'll hug each other later down the line, because

795
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: it's two competitive spirits going against each other. Sometimes I

796
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: feel like what I got going on is right, and

797
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: what you're saying is not and vice versas.

798
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of heated battles in his locker room.

799
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 3: I think there's ways to go about it, and being

800
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: a franchise guy, you got to limit those distractions from

801
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: your teammates. And I think, I mean, with experience, Jobs

802
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: just going to continue to get better. But you can't

803
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: get suspended. You can't get suspended, especially early on in

804
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: the season. You got to be a better leader and

805
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: a better example of what leadership is. So I mean,

806
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: I think he's going to continue to learn. I don't

807
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: think this is the last time they get into it,

808
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: but it gotta be better on both sides for sure.

809
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: I think that's really interesting what you said of like

810
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: it's almost a trait of a franchise guy or a

811
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: super star. It isn't just the numbers you're put up

812
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: on the paper. It's like, you know, it's overcoming, like

813
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: when things are bad, no one had to like stick

814
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: through it, overcome.

815
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: It, you know.

816
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: Like because I don't think anyone will blame job for

817
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: the fact that there's been a big personnel change, There's

818
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: been some major roster moves over there. Desmond Bain has gone,

819
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: like I think they always were like, oh, the young,

820
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: the young core is here, and then it's like a

821
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: lot of those guys are gone now too, and it's

822
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: kind of just been him and Jaron Jackson who's been

823
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: the only consistent sort of pieces over there. So I

824
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: would say, I mean, like again, like I'm not in

825
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: that locker room obviously, but it's interesting. You know, things

826
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: haven't been consistent for a jobs, so obviously there's gonna

827
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: be struggles, but it's just kind of how you deal

828
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: with that mentally.

829
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would say, like from the outside looking in,

830
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: it seems like this little hostile over there. It seems

831
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: like even with the surprise firing at the coach last year,

832
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: with the direction they're going in, like you said, Bain

833
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 3: has left, it seemed like that was their core. Yeah,

834
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: it don't really seem like he has any saying what's

835
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: going on, And maybe he doesn't, and maybe that's how

836
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: they're running the ship. But obviously we don't know because

837
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: we're not in those locker rooms or in those meetings

838
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: or in the front office. But we got a question

839
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 3: what's going on over there? For sure, Like for a

840
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: young team that's supposedly exciting and it got a lot

841
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 3: for the future. These things shouldn't be happening, Like this

842
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: is something that happens on losing situation teams, not something

843
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: that happens on a team with a superstar player like

844
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 3: a guy like joh But we got to be on

845
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: the lookout for this team for sure, because this is

846
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 3: something that shouldn't happen this early in the season. And

847
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 3: I know after tough losses like the loss that they

848
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 3: had against the Lakers. Yeah, you know, things can spark

849
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: and spark quick, that's right.

850
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's early in the season, so we can

851
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: very well be seeing them at the top of the

852
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: West or in those first three spots.

853
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: And things like this might you know, it might spark them,

854
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 2: like it might. It might.

855
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: Like I've been on teams where we've had these situations

856
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: early on in the season, and I've been on a

857
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 3: team where it kind of took turns for the worst,

858
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: and I've been on a team where we nipped everything

859
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: in the button, got to it, got straight to it.

860
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: So we it'd be cool to see where this goes,

861
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: you know, in the next few weeks for sure.

862
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: All right, we'll be watching. Okay, we're gonna take one

863
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: more quick break on point game and we'll be back

864
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: with more lighter stories and a little rapid fire at

865
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: point game tradition bucket brick. We're gonna play it here

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Speaker 1: All right, it's time for our DraftKings King of the

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night, and if you get it right, you split

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Speaker 1: Court is probably gonna be Steph in that Sun's Warriors game,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, Steph is always putting up numbers, so

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Speaker 1: that's who do you think is gonna get it on

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna probably go with Polo, the hometown favorite. I know.

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Speaker 1: We are gonna play a one of our favorite games

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Speaker 1: from last season called Bucket or Brick. And so if

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Speaker 1: you guys forgot how this works, it t I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you a quote or a story that's happened in

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Speaker 1: the league right now, and you say bucket if you're

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Speaker 1: with it, or brick if you're not, and you got

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Speaker 1: to describe what you got to explain why you're not

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Speaker 1: with it?

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Speaker 2: Okay for sure? All right.

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Speaker 1: So for the first one, Chicago Bulls rising star Matis Buzellis,

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Speaker 1: they got he got caught using a janitorial mop bucket

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Speaker 1: to ice his knees after dropping twenty seven and five,

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Speaker 1: and it went over the kings. So they were clowning

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Speaker 1: him because his knees were in the mop buckets like

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Speaker 1: he was an old vent and they're like, dude, you're

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Speaker 1: like twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Look that's a bucket because he's smart, like those are

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Speaker 3: like he's icing his ankles or his feet.

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Speaker 2: We don't know if he got bad feet or ankles.

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Speaker 3: The top of I think he had a good game

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Speaker 3: where he played a lot of minutes, so he's only

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Speaker 3: doing what's right. Obviously that looks crazy and it looks funny,

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Speaker 3: But like, I'm proud of him because he's a young dude.

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Speaker 3: You won't really see a lot of young dudes doing

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Speaker 3: that that early. That's that's for guys my age for sure.

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Speaker 1: I guess all I gotta say is, Chicago Bulls. You

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Speaker 1: guys are a storied franchise. Get some real ice buckets.

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Speaker 2: Look, they ain't the trenches with it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what that is.

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Speaker 3: They definitely need. Come on, you should have a bucket

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Speaker 3: with the Bulls logo all of that. Yeah, no, that's bad.

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Speaker 1: You got six trophies behind them and their legs are

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Speaker 1: inside janitorial equipment. Okay, this next story, shout out to

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Speaker 1: my Dodgers. I know you're wearing a Mariner's cap there. Actually,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you, did you enjoy watching the Blue

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Speaker 1: Jays lose?

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Speaker 2: I did? I did? You know?

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Speaker 3: I'm a Mariner fan, but look, my family's from La,

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Speaker 3: so I'm watch Dodger fan too, Laker fan all of that,

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Speaker 3: So I get it.

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Speaker 2: I'm shout out to the Dodgers for sure, but just

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Speaker 2: because Mariners for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Well, so the reason why I brought

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Speaker 1: that up Brandon pot Pajenski. He said this quote. He said,

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Speaker 1: I think I could be the White Show. Hey, I

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Speaker 1: think I could do both. Maybe not the degree degree

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Speaker 1: he can do it, but I think I could for

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Speaker 1: sure do both pitch, play the field, hit all those things.

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Speaker 1: So do you think pods is the White Show?

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Speaker 2: Hey, come on, man, that's a brick. Don't do that.

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Speaker 3: We can't do that one, like you could have said

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Speaker 3: somebody else, like you went, you went from you went straight,

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Speaker 3: zero two, one hundred, you went to the best guy.

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Speaker 2: It's like, I get it, but you ain't him. We

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Speaker 2: can't do that one.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Finally I wanted to end on this one. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this. There was a viral

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Speaker 1: clip where Jalen in the middle of the game. I

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Speaker 1: think he's against Jalen Brown. I think he was in

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Speaker 1: like triple threads, swung it around his head, hit the

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Speaker 1: jersey of his of the defender, and his hair spray

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Speaker 1: or I don't even know what to call it. His

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Speaker 1: hair rubbed off on there and that went viral and

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Speaker 1: then his response was, Hey, I should get on twitch

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Speaker 1: and stream me getting my hair fixed. So bucket brick,

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Speaker 1: did Jalen respond to that embarrassing moment correctly.

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Speaker 3: He responded correctly, for sure, Okay, but dang, Jaylee, I

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Speaker 3: thought I taught you better. Come on, man, that's my

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Speaker 3: rook right there. We can't be seen with the Beijing

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Speaker 3: in the hair. That's what it's called. When they got

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Speaker 3: the little black stuff in the air. Come on, man,

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Speaker 3: you too young to be putting that in the hair.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown, I like how you saved yourself though, clown

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Speaker 3: to yourself, laughing about it because it is funny. But

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Speaker 3: come on, JB, I thought I taught you better than that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with a bucket

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00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: for how he responded. But Brick, come on, we can't

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Speaker 3: do that. And so you said he was your rook

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00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: what was that like?

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Speaker 2: He was hard headed. He was not trying to do

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Speaker 2: anything at all, not trying to do any rookie duties.

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Speaker 3: One of like one thing I would say on the court,

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Speaker 3: and when it came to basketball, he asked questions. He

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Speaker 3: wanted to be great so to see his progression and success.

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00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: Now it's a no brainer because he thought he was.

989
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: He thought he was the best at that point, and

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00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: that was amazing. To have that mindset. But come on, Jaalen,

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00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: I thought, I thought I taught you better. On top

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00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: of that, I got to tell the people what I

993
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: did to you. You know, rookie year, he wasn't doing anything.

994
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: And when I say not anything, not bringing the soap

995
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: on the road for the showers, he's not bringing he's

996
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: not having a lotion for everybody. These are little rookie

997
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: duties that you know, every rookie gotta do. You gotta bring,

998
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: you got you gotta have towels for everybody after the game.

999
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 3: Little things that, okay, if you do them, nobody's gonna

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00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: mess with you. If you don't, we're gonna be on

1001
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: your helmet. And he thought he was just bigger than

1002
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: the program. Nobody's bigger than the program being a rookie.

1003
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: So every time it would pile up, every road trip,

1004
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: he's not bringing the soap, he's not bringing the towels,

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00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 3: he's not doing this.

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00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 2: So one time, towards the end of the year, we

1007
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: all got together. I forgot who it was it was.

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00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: I got we had a home game. It was like

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Speaker 3: towards the end of the season, and he didn't he

1010
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 3: didn't do nothing. Maybe the game before, so I'm like, okay,

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00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm popcorning in his car.

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00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: It's over. I gave him.

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00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 3: I gave him chance after chance popcorning it. So I

1014
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: got the people who work in the locker room. Throughout

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00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: the game, I'm like, okay, I pay you to go

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00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 3: get popcorn from upstairs during the game, please popcorn Jalen's car.

1017
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: So after the game, and it.

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00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: Sucks because he had a bad game too, so he

1019
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: was already mad. We end up winning the game, but

1020
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: he already had a bad game. So he was the

1021
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: first one out, first one out the locker room, storming out,

1022
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 3: go to the car, and I'm always usually the last

1023
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 3: guy out, so I'm not in no rush. I remember

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00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: Danny Ainge coming into Danny Ainge coming in the locker room.

1025
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 3: He's like, I t did you popcorn Jalen's car. I'm like,

1026
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: who told you that?

1027
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: Like, I didn't do it. I didn't do anything. I

1028
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. It became a joke.

1029
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 3: It was so funny that when I go to my

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00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: car to get to get my car, all the people

1031
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 3: who got the popcorn, like the guys, the locker room attendants,

1032
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 3: they're the ones cleaning it out. So I go and

1033
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: help them too. I'm like, I didn't want y'all to

1034
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: get in trouble. They got in a little bit of

1035
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: trouble from following my direction. So shout out to you know,

1036
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 3: the Celtics locker room attendants.

1037
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Speaker 2: We got.

1038
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 3: We're like this always. Jalen was hot and it was

1039
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: funny because it was his rookie season and he had

1040
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: family in town. He had one car, so everybody.

1041
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: Was in that car.

1042
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: They were just outside the car like this, so mad,

1043
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: trying to leave and they couldn't leave. To all the

1044
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: popcorners out, I love it for anybody watching this, your rookie,

1045
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: please just do what you're ass Nobody's doing nothing to

1046
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: embarrass you.

1047
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: You just gotta fall in line. You're not bigger than

1048
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: the man you.

1049
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: Heard it from.

1050
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: I t it.

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Speaker 1: This has been the first episode of point game.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: This is like, those stories are why we've needed you

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00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: on this mic.

1055
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Speaker 3: This is super dope. I told you I'm a rookie

1056
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Speaker 3: all over again. I didn't know what to expect. I'm

1057
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Speaker 3: happy I'm in this space. We're going to do it

1058
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 3: bigger and bigger each and every episode. But we got

1059
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Speaker 3: so many stories Like so many experiences I've been through

1060
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Speaker 3: in the game of basketball, whether that be high school,

1061
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Speaker 3: college pros man. I can't wait to be able to

1062
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Speaker 3: spill those beings to everybody who's tapping in love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. We got a whole NBA season ahead of us. Hey,

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Speaker 1: shout out to iHeart, Shout out to Slow Grund, shout

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Speaker 1: out to follow Through for making us happen. We got

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Speaker 1: more shows for you all, so please don't forget to

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Speaker 1: subscribe to Point Game with Isaiah Thomas and CJ. Toldonno,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you guys in the next show.

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Speaker 2: Yanks do it.