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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. All Right,

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Speaker 1: I hope everybody had a great holiday weekend, short week

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Speaker 1: this week as a result, it's Tuesday already, everybody, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 1: Players back on the field as well for ota sessions

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Speaker 1: and still out there now as Steve and I have

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Speaker 1: ducked inside and it is so hot out. Steve was

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Speaker 1: melting out there. Apparently the thick blood from the winter

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Speaker 1: is not thinned out, for it.

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Speaker 2: Is so hot. It is like like dangerous hot.

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Speaker 1: I am never ever going to complain that it's too

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Speaker 1: hot here. I will not do it. Why not, because

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Speaker 1: we barely get enough of it. We don't get any

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Speaker 1: of it in comparison to other cities. So when it's here,

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Speaker 1: I'll deal. I'll soak it all up.

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Speaker 2: You don't, let's face it, you don't have any choice

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Speaker 2: but to deal even when you don't like it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, but I don't. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: anger the weather gods and complain when we actually have

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Speaker 1: warm weather. If you know what I mean, if it.

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Speaker 2: Ain't perfect, I'm complaining. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of warm weather, it was a spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Specta holiday holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: Even though you and I were hard at work with

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Speaker 1: chores and getting caught up on yardwork and stuff, my.

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Speaker 2: Goodness that time of year, you know, it was great. Great.

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Speaker 2: We hope everybody had a great Memorial weekend. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: all those people out there, the friend's family and those

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Speaker 2: of you who actually did serve. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for your sacrifice, both at home and abroad. Our country

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Speaker 2: owes you a great debt of gratitude. And sometimes one

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Speaker 2: day out of the year doesn't seem like enough, but

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Speaker 2: thank you so much, and it was. It was a

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Speaker 2: spectacular weekend, and I hope for all of you out

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Speaker 2: there who have served or who have loved ones who served,

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Speaker 2: I hope it was a spectacular weekend for you as well.

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Speaker 1: What is usually on the grill for you on that weekend?

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Speaker 2: Actually, for me, I think hot dogs burgers are a

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Speaker 2: must on an American holiday like Memorial.

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Speaker 1: Day, right, But that's a staple on the fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: But I think the menu is a little wider.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one was a huge pork thing, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: marinated and that was one of the days too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you can kind of go all the way down

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Speaker 2: pork loin, I think is more apt.

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Speaker 1: My daughter's birthday weekend. So she got to pick, and

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Speaker 1: she went with Chavetta's chicken.

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Speaker 2: Which that that is and that is a buffalo That

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Speaker 2: is a buffalo st buffalo staple in summertime. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: I was exposed to it first of the Erie County Fair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hit it there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. I'm we had we always go through

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Speaker 2: this during the time when we were a young family

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Speaker 2: growing up. We always did like four things with the

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Speaker 2: All Everybody Yeah, a Bison's Game, the Erie County Fair,

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Zoo, and Darien Lake. All four of those

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Speaker 2: were on our bucket list for every summer we did

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Speaker 2: at least once. Yeah, and the Erie County Fair, well,

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Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, probably right now is still my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, And that's where I was exposed to the

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Speaker 2: Chavetta's chicken for the first.

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Speaker 1: Time, probably because of the food. If I had to guess, yes.

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Speaker 2: It is. Actually I was gonna say something. I was

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Speaker 2: going to say some snide remark, but the truth is best. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the food is awesome.

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Speaker 1: The the funniest thing that happened in our weekend. So

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Speaker 1: I got my my pool open. I am officially the

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Speaker 1: So we had family coming over, daughter's birthday whatever.

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Speaker 1: My dog, who it's been well documented, is not the

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Speaker 1: sharpest tool in the shed. And I'm sure a lot

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Speaker 1: of other dogs do this when they're around a pool.

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Speaker 1: When they see the people they live with going underwater

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Speaker 1: and swimming and stuff, they get a little freaked out.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they get freaked out, like they went under

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Speaker 2: The dumb ones do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And I have one of those, so

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Speaker 1: and we're just sitting pool side, feet in the water.

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Speaker 1: Whatever he dropped your guard, my my I think it's

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Speaker 1: think they had a piece of food in their hand,

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Speaker 1: just snacking on something in the pool, right, So my

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Speaker 1: might fall in the water or whatever. And we're usually

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Speaker 1: worried about the front paws going in because once those

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Speaker 1: go in, the back legs can't keep the dog from

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Speaker 1: you know, now they're submerged, they're inverted. You got a problem,

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Speaker 1: especially for a dog who inexplicably hates water in a pool.

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Speaker 2: Sense is a lab mix too, Oh she's a pit.

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Speaker 1: Our older dog was a Lab. She hated the water too,

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Speaker 1: somehow her back legs fell in first. It was the

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Speaker 1: biggest laugh of the entire weekend. Do you have you

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Speaker 1: ever seen a pit bull's eyes when they are utterly

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Speaker 1: terrified of something. I mean, it looks like they've like

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Speaker 1: it's like right out of Tom and Jerry. Those were

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Speaker 1: leave her edge like not happening, Yes, no way, not happening.

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Speaker 1: So fortunately somebody rescued her and lifted her up and

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Speaker 1: we laughed for about ten minutes. She is just she

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Speaker 1: is a knobbe What is your I don't have a pool.

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Speaker 2: What is the etiquette for like a beer? A pool

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Speaker 1: No bottle, no bottles?

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Speaker 2: Cancer, Fine, that's it, they'll just walk on in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cancer, fine, cancer. Fine?

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Speaker 2: About food?

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Speaker 1: The coozies are popular in years.

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Speaker 2: Where does it h where does it change over like

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Speaker 2: from like from snacks and stuff like that. I mean

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Speaker 2: usually had snacks around the pool, you know, around the pool,

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Speaker 2: not in it preferably, right, because it's just do you

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Speaker 2: swimming with potato chips? And that's what I'm asking. I

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Speaker 1: I would I would tend to lean against zero snacks.

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Speaker 2: But all the drink have.

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Speaker 1: A pool side, you know, if you're hungry, get out

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Speaker 1: of the pool. Okay, I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: Right, I don't know, that's fine. Yeah, I'm just asking

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Speaker 2: because I don't know these things. So you have a

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Speaker 1: The back, that's right, you got the water hole?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can do whatever. Yeah, you can feed the fish,

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Speaker 2: no worries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if any fish would bother you in

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Speaker 1: the same way my dog did it just from just

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Speaker 1: from below as as opposed on top. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: good weekend, great weather, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We also have a fantastic show in store for you today,

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Speaker 1: and it's because mainly the players are back on the

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Speaker 1: practice field. OTAs continue week two and media had availability

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Speaker 1: to watch practice today, so we'll cover that in earnest.

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Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey spoke to the media earlier today,

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Speaker 1: as did linebackers coach Bobby Babbage. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you, Steve, what would you say your biggest takeaway

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Speaker 1: from coach Dorsey's comments was were what was your biggest takeaw.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting. It was kind of like a nice

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Speaker 2: reset for me because sometimes doing our job, we talk about,

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Speaker 2: and we're thinking, oh, wow, this is gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: we got Latavius Murray. What's gonna happen is all this

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Speaker 2: fun stuff and he just he was like, we're just

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Speaker 2: pumped the brakes for all the Dalton Kincaid Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 2: comparisons lits seny what you really want and he said

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Speaker 2: it in not so many words I'll paraphrase. He said, listen,

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Speaker 2: we want dalton Kin Kid to be the best Dalton Kincadie.

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Speaker 2: We're not trying to make him into Travis Kelcey. Just

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Speaker 2: be the best version of you you can be, and

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Speaker 2: we'll live with the results. And we got to find

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Speaker 2: out who that might be. Certainly, a young player like

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Speaker 2: dalton Kin Kid's got all the potential in the world,

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Speaker 2: and all these other players they drafted and have signed

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Speaker 2: as well, and guys from last year and the players

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Speaker 2: they brought in, they all have some certain amount of potential.

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Speaker 2: And he's right. The question is where would the best

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Speaker 2: version of that potential end up being. And that's where

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Speaker 1: Find out about this year or just long range every year.

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Speaker 2: Certainly they're gonna take steps, he said it too, We're

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Speaker 2: just trying to find out who the guy is. How

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Speaker 2: he plays, how he practices, what's he like in meetings?

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Speaker 2: You know kind of questions. He asked, you know, what's

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Speaker 2: he looked like when he's on seven on seven, and

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Speaker 2: what's he looked like in team? How different are those things?

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Speaker 2: All that stuff. There's so much they don't know about him,

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Speaker 2: and there's so much he doesn't know about the offense

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Speaker 2: and the nuance and all that stuff going into it.

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Speaker 2: So it was nice by Ken Dorsey and his remarks

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Speaker 2: not you know, and we say it's trite now, it's

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Speaker 2: been said so many times, stereotypical. Let's not give the

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Speaker 2: guy a can't a bust and can'ton just yet right

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Speaker 2: and his first ota. But having said that, when you

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Speaker 2: I like the guy. He looks good to me. He

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Speaker 2: catches the ball well, runs good routes, crispy, He does

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Speaker 2: things the player his size. He does things better than

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Speaker 2: you think he'd be able to. Certainly catches the ball great.

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Speaker 1: So it seems to be a spatial awareness to his game.

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Speaker 1: And we heard Brandon Bean talk about that after they

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Speaker 1: drafted him, saying that he has a feel for coverage.

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Speaker 1: And I realize we're miles away from real football right now,

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Speaker 1: but just in the way you see him move find

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Speaker 1: Just because of that. It's almost like a eyes beyond

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Speaker 1: his years kind of spatial awareness out.

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Speaker 2: There, like I've said, like I was talking about last week,

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Speaker 2: when you want to run a route, kin Kaid has

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Speaker 2: that ability to think and give the quarterback what the

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Speaker 2: quarterback is looking for, not you know a body, you know,

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Speaker 2: body language, hand placement, eyes, the way he runs the route,

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Speaker 2: the way he works the top of the route and

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Speaker 2: gets into the second part of that life. If he's

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Speaker 2: the post, you give a little something, But when you

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Speaker 1: to renegotiate his deal in a trade scenario, and that

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Speaker 1: made trading him difficult because there was no team out

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Speaker 1: there that was capable of stomaching that that was interested

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Speaker 1: in acquiring him, let alone giving up draft capital.

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Speaker 2: So that's that seems to be the reason why he's

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Speaker 2: available now. They released him because they were trade. We're

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Speaker 2: going to get a trade partner. Now what's the market?

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Speaker 2: You know that that's the real question. What's he going

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Speaker 2: to take and what's he gonna want it to look like?

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Speaker 2: I would say if I'm DeAndre Hopkins, unless you hit

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Speaker 2: a home run deal like a like a you know,

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Speaker 2: a Tyreek Hill kind of deal where you're getting thirty million,

444
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Speaker 2: or I wouldn't take that. If it was seventeen million

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Speaker 2: a year guaranteed for four years, that kind of a

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Speaker 2: long term contract, his agents didn't take it. But I

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Speaker 2: would think more often, more likely is it'll be a

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Speaker 2: short deal with less guarantees, but giving him the chance

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Speaker 2: to hit another home run if he comes in and

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Speaker 2: hits it out of the park with the team that

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Speaker 2: he signs with. And of course now he's like everybody else.

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Speaker 2: He wants to play for the Bills or the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: right so.

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Speaker 1: And the reports from Jeremy Faller of ESPN is while

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Speaker 1: those two teams are not pulling out all the stops

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Speaker 1: to sign him, they are staying involved to make sure

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Speaker 1: the other team doesn't get That's the way it's being

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Speaker 1: pitched by ESPN's Jeremy Faller, which I find to be

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Speaker 1: very interesting. It's like, well, we don't want to compromise

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Speaker 1: our future just to get the guy, but we also

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Speaker 1: don't want that other team to get him either.

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Speaker 2: Right, And they want to make sure that if the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs are gonna if the Chiefs are in the bidding,

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Speaker 2: you want to know exactly what they're bidding, if possible.

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Speaker 1: And what made this story even more interesting was Hopkins

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Speaker 1: did not he does not have an agent like a

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Speaker 1: formal agent. He hasn't through most of his career. He

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Speaker 1: has an advisor, but not a certified agent per se. Well,

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Speaker 1: that has changed. As of this morning, NFL network Sean

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Speaker 1: Rapaport is reporting that Hopkins has hired an agent who

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Speaker 1: will represent him here in this free agent process. So,

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Speaker 1: as we said, he's previously represented himself, but now he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have an agent do the work for him. So

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Speaker 1: we'll have to see how that turns out, whether that

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Speaker 1: facilitates or accelerates the process or maybe allows it to

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Speaker 1: get mired in the muck of haggling over dollars and cents.

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Speaker 1: You would like to think that Hopkins has made his

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Speaker 1: money in this league to a large degree. Well, I'm

479
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Speaker 1: not saying he doesn't want.

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Speaker 2: More absolutely, but it is right.

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Speaker 1: But is squeezing a team for the most money priority

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Speaker 1: number one right now? Or is winning because he's ten

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Speaker 1: years in the league and he hasn't won much. He's

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Speaker 1: only been to the playoffs a few times, so has

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Speaker 1: the priority shifted.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting It's an interesting question. Only he can

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Speaker 2: answer it, because we've heard guys on both sides of

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Speaker 2: the coin. Either they've made a ton of moneys. I

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Speaker 2: got I want to win something now. Reggie White did

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Speaker 2: it when he went and left Philly and went to

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Speaker 2: Green Bell.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm not saying take below market value, but something

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Speaker 1: that's fair that puts you in the best situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever the numbers are. If there's a higher number

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Speaker 2: out there and it's the Houston Texans or the you know,

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Speaker 2: or you name it, a team that's down, a Indianapolis

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Speaker 2: Colts or whoever, if it's one of these teams that's

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Speaker 2: struggling and it's a little bit more money, how much

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Speaker 2: is it worth to you? Because I'll say this at

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Speaker 2: the end of late in my career, and I know

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Speaker 2: I've seen other guys exhibit this exact same mindset. It's

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Speaker 2: it's barely worth it, even with the money. If you're

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Speaker 2: not winning, even if you get the big contract and

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Speaker 2: you're late in your career and you're not winning, it's

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Speaker 2: really hard to go to work, really hard to go

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Speaker 2: to work. But if you're winning, the money's irrelevant. It's

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Speaker 2: irrelevant to the equation because you the money is a

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Speaker 2: given because you know what it is going in. You're

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Speaker 2: not gonna sign for anything that you're unwilling to play for.

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Speaker 2: So if you get the money, and if in down

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Speaker 2: there Hopkins, instead of fifteen million, he gets ten and

512
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Speaker 2: he comes to Buffalo once he signs that for that ten,

513
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: he doesn't care. He wants to win now. He got

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Speaker 2: to win. And I think it's a really interesting question

515
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Speaker 2: because it's because every team wants him to play. Goodness gracious,

516
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Speaker 2: they're thirty one other teams that want him to play

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Speaker 2: for the right number, and it's to him to choose

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Speaker 2: where he wants to play. Now. It's just a question

519
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Speaker 2: of what's going to cost that team and what he's

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Speaker 2: willing to accept, because it is so difficult for a

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Speaker 2: great player to keep going year after year and just

522
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: you just can't win. There's nobody's win. You're not winning.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's soul crushing. It's soul crushing. So a

524
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Speaker 2: guy like d Hob you'd have to think somewhere in there. Man,

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Speaker 2: he wants to experience the other side for a minute.

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Speaker 2: He wants to get in ano the win column.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but we do

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Speaker 1: want to let you know that we will have one

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Speaker 1: of the Bills players off the practice field joining us

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Speaker 1: in studio. Had Damian Harris and Latavius Murray in previous weeks.

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Speaker 1: We will have linebacker AJ Klein joining us here in

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Speaker 1: the next segment or two, so be sure to stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. We take a break here, come back

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Speaker 1: with more on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on a

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Speaker 1: Tuesday Ota Tuesday players back on the field, just about

538
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Speaker 1: wrapping up practice now, as we will be hearing from

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Speaker 1: some players at the podium addressing the media in the

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Speaker 1: second hour of our show. We are waiting now to

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Speaker 1: have Aj Klein join us here in studio. Plan to

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Speaker 1: talk to him about Sean McDermott as a defensive play caller,

543
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Speaker 1: as well as the middle linebacker competition, which you know

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Speaker 1: he is witnessing firsthand. You know, I kind this is

545
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Speaker 1: no disrespect to Aj, but I kind of see him

546
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Speaker 1: as the veteran insurance policy at the position, because outside

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Speaker 1: of him, it's Milano and then a bunch of guys

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Speaker 1: that haven't played a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: Right, Dodson is a guy who's been around for a minute, has.

550
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Speaker 1: A handful of starts under his.

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Speaker 2: Belt, specter, no reps almost at all at middle linebacker.

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Speaker 2: But he was here last year, and you know it

553
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Speaker 2: was in meetings and he was a little bit like me.

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Speaker 2: You play linebacker, me wide receiver for six days a week,

555
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Speaker 2: then when Sunday comes, you're covering kicks. And that's because

556
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Speaker 2: there's a bunch of guys like that. Dotson would fall

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Speaker 2: into that category as well. So what Aj Klein for

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Speaker 2: that matter. But these guys in this competition, let me

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Speaker 2: think back now, for five years, ain't nobody taking any

560
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Speaker 2: meaningful reps at all at that spot. Ever, ever, we

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Speaker 2: haven't seen anybody but Tremaine edmondst middle linebacker for the

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Speaker 2: Bills in five years. Yeah, unless the game is health

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Speaker 2: unless the game was forty one to ten second half

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Speaker 2: of the fourth courter. That's it. So I don't know

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Speaker 2: how good these guys are, and I don't think the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff does either man have it idea, But man,

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Speaker 2: oh man, there's that's a big question mark. It's a

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Speaker 2: big question mark. Yeah. For just it's been five years

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Speaker 2: since I had to go through this conversation.

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Speaker 1: And I asked Bob Babbage, the linebackers coach today, you know,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about it on the show Steve. You

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Speaker 1: got probably three candidates for the job right now that

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Speaker 1: are rotating through. When do you whittle that down from

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Speaker 1: three to two? And when do you have a drop

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Speaker 1: dead date to go from two to one? And Coach

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Speaker 1: Babbage said, it's kind of dangerous to have a drop

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Speaker 1: dead date when you know you know, so to fix

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Speaker 1: a date to when you should know is a little unnatural.

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Speaker 1: At least it was the feeling that I got from him.

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Speaker 1: But we do tell, we do mention. There is only

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Speaker 1: a finite period of time before you have to have

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Speaker 1: a starter not only named, but ready for the opener.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'll say this, and I said that last week.

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Speaker 2: I said, you got it. You don't want to get

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Speaker 2: like three guys thirty three percent ready to play. You

586
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Speaker 2: want to get one guy one hundred percent ready to play.

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Speaker 2: But knowing what I know about this coaching staff, Brownie,

588
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Speaker 2: you know this too. I mean, they are shockingly patient

589
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Speaker 2: with some of these guys. So it might not be

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Speaker 2: just because player X lines up at the mike linebacker

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Speaker 2: in week one. They still might not be sold. They

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Speaker 2: still might be thinking, I don't we'll give We'll just

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Speaker 2: see he thinks I think he's our best option this week.

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Speaker 2: But I this guy, this other guy, I think he's

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Speaker 2: got more potential. And they're This organization under Brandon Bean

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Speaker 2: and Sean McDermott is nothing if not if not about

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Speaker 2: taking the long view. They don't throw guys out there

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Speaker 2: when they're not ready to play. They sit guys with

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Speaker 2: their not one hundred percent or they don't like where

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Speaker 2: they're at physically. They do not get caught up in

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Speaker 2: the moment of like this game is the most absolutely

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Speaker 2: most important point in the universe, of the history of

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Speaker 2: the universe. It was like, wait, this is a game

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Speaker 2: this week, but we got we got a careers and

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Speaker 2: games all the time. They are shockingly and almost sometimes

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Speaker 2: uncomfortably patient, So I'm not even sure that Week one

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Speaker 2: is the deadline.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting the most interesting comment that Coach Babbage

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Speaker 1: made with regard to the middle linebacker position and what

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Speaker 1: they're looking for. Coach Babbage said, with the way the

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Speaker 1: game is going, if you can have two matchup linebackers,

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Speaker 1: that's very beneficial. I think we all know that Milano

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Speaker 1: is a matchup linebacker. You can cover, you know, in

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Speaker 1: pass coverage, run with people, that kind of thing. So

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Speaker 1: he Coach Babbage made it clear today they're looking for

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Speaker 1: a similar skill set at the mic linebacker position as well.

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Speaker 1: And how many true candidates are in the pool to

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Speaker 1: compete for that spot we'll have to see. But that's

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Speaker 1: the reason I asked Babbage the question, because are there

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Speaker 1: four candidates, Because it's gonna be tough to get the

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Speaker 1: reps for all of those guys, not only to adequately evaluate,

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Speaker 1: but to get one of them ready to start. And

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Speaker 1: and let's not forget this, you're not just talking about

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Speaker 1: finding a starter at a position. You're finding the guy

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be running your defense.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty important extra element.

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Speaker 2: This isn't like plugging one guy front. This is a

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Speaker 2: guy who has to look every other player on the

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Speaker 2: defense in the eye and tell them how it's gonna be. Plus,

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Speaker 2: when the offense shifts and moves, he's making sure the

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Speaker 2: guys in the back understand what's going on in the

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Speaker 2: front because those two things have to mesh. And Plus

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Speaker 2: he's got to know his place in it and you

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Speaker 2: know it's just and he's got to say it in

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Speaker 2: like a half a second and make sure everybody's on

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Speaker 2: the same page. I mean, he's got to run meetings

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Speaker 2: during the week. He's got the clicker in his hand,

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Speaker 2: talking to his teammates at other positions, saying, hey, when

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Speaker 2: this happens, do this. I don't want to have to

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Speaker 2: tell you. Right, it's a big dude, it's a big

642
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Speaker 2: job with some responsibility that other players have to go

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Speaker 2: in on it with.

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Speaker 1: It's hard break time for us here, but when we return,

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Speaker 1: veteran linebacker A. J. Klein joins us here in studio.

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Speaker 1: Next on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health, It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Here on Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and

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Speaker 1: joining us in studio, has promised linebacker a J. Klein

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Speaker 1: fresh off the practice field. AJ, how you feeling feeling good?

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys having me on.

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Speaker 2: It's so hot out.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a buff it's a buffalo, blistering summer day.

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Speaker 1: It was blood's all thick from the.

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Speaker 2: Wind on Friday morning, not for nothing, but on Friday

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Speaker 2: morning there was a frost delay at a local golf course.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't play because there was frost on it. And

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Speaker 2: now today it's nine thousand degrees.

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Speaker 4: I will say, when I flew out last week or

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Speaker 4: two weeks ago, they had a de ice to play

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Speaker 4: before we took off the report. So quick, quick change,

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Speaker 4: quick change, that's even quick change in weather.

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Speaker 3: But it's good. It's good.

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Speaker 4: It's good to get outside. No, it's just good to

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Speaker 4: be back on the football field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Easier to get warm too, when you know practice starts

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Speaker 1: when it's that hot out. You've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: football in your time. You've seen a lot of coach

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Speaker 1: McDermott in your time. You began your career under him

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Speaker 1: as your d C. So how I guess in general terms,

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Speaker 1: because Bill's fans are curious, like what is what do

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Speaker 1: you anticipate coach McDermott to be like as a defensive

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Speaker 1: play caller here based on your experience four years under

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Speaker 1: him in Caroline.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think if you go back and look at

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Speaker 4: my four years there in Carolina was thirteen to sixteen,

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Speaker 4: we were strong defense. The defense was what ran the team.

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Speaker 4: Obviously had Cam Newton on the other side of the football,

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Speaker 4: but his leadership and his ability to gets in the

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Speaker 4: right defenses at the right time. Not discounting anything, we

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Speaker 4: have a lot of talented players back then, but if

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Speaker 4: you go back and watch that tape, you're going to

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Speaker 4: see an aggressive defense and that's his mindset. And I

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Speaker 4: think him being in charge, there's not gonna be a change.

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Speaker 4: In my mind, I think he's going to go back

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Speaker 4: to the old defensive play calling Sean fit right and

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Speaker 4: do it, even him being head coach at the same time.

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Speaker 2: One of the big question marks is what is going

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Speaker 2: to look like because under Leslie and maybe Sean had

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Speaker 2: probably had a voice in this as well. I mean,

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Speaker 2: there was the same eleven guys out there, except for

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Speaker 2: the rotation of the defensive line. You had two linebackers,

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Speaker 2: five dbs, four defensive linemen of the time and now

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Speaker 2: that you take Tremaine out of that mix and put

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Speaker 2: a new defensive coordinator in Sean McDermott in there. Do

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Speaker 2: you think that changes with personnel and their usage.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think right now it's it's a lot of mixing. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: guys are getting a lot of reps out there, a

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Speaker 4: lot of different guys moving positions, right. We want a

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Speaker 4: knowledgeable defense, especially at the linebacker position. We want guys

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Speaker 4: that know multiple positions can be plugged and played, because

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Speaker 4: we don't want to be a drop off.

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Speaker 3: Obviously.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations to Tremain in his new deal with the Chicago Barriers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did, all right, he did alright. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: he's not hurting.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, So there are some question marks and those

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Speaker 4: are the things that we're going to be working through

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Speaker 4: this spring and seeing who can be in there and

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Speaker 4: obviously can rotate around, and I think to your point

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Speaker 4: you said, not many guys have rotated in those same

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Speaker 4: eleven guys are on the field other than the defensive line. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: all we see offenses attacking us, right they bring in

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Speaker 4: It's just how offenses are changing. In general, the league

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Speaker 4: has changed completely in the ten years I've been in

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Speaker 4: the league based defense is now extinct. You've got these

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Speaker 4: pass catching tight ends. You rarely see a guy that's

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Speaker 4: in there to block, and so I think us matching

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Speaker 4: body on body, it's just a matchup game. So I

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Speaker 4: think that's that could be a thing that the coaches

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Speaker 4: are thinking about when we go into game both.

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Speaker 1: It's funny you say that because coach Babbage literally just

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Speaker 1: told the media that today. He said, because they're naturally

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Speaker 1: asking him question about, you know, the position left behind

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Speaker 1: by Tremaine and how that all shakes out, and he

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Speaker 1: was saying, it would be beneficial if you could have

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Speaker 1: two matchup linebackers with the way the game is going today,

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Speaker 1: and we know Matt can do that, and now in

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Speaker 1: an ideal world, you guys have somebody else that can

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Speaker 1: do that and middle linebacker when it all shakes out, right.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, I mean, like you said, it's a matchup game, right.

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Speaker 4: We drafted Dalton Kinkaid for example. He's a pass catching

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Speaker 4: tight end. I mean, dass, he's out on the route

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Speaker 4: probably eighty five percent of the time. I don't know

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Speaker 4: the statistics. Have to ask Dlock about that, Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: it feels that way. And that's across the league, right,

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Speaker 4: you got these athletic tight ends that can run make plays.

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Speaker 4: The linebacker position is evolving with that, so we obviously

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Speaker 4: have to be able to play the run. But now

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Speaker 4: more so than ever, the emphasis of being a matchup

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Speaker 4: linebacker manaement coverage is huge.

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Speaker 2: So you get out there. You've got all these draft

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Speaker 2: picks out there, the young guys, tell us have a

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Speaker 2: little thumbnail of this rookie classes have a personality. Yet,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are these guys? I mean, who's are they?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 1: Stay quiet?

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, I said, I said, majority of them are quiet,

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Speaker 4: but they seem good. I come in pretty early every

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Speaker 4: morning and eat, I eat breakfast and they all start

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Speaker 4: rolling in and we we lift together. But they're pretty

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Speaker 4: quiet around the breakfast table. Last week we had a

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Speaker 4: couple of guys come over. Gabe had some guys come

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Speaker 4: over to his house just to hang out a little bit,

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Speaker 4: get to get to know some of them. But I think,

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Speaker 4: to your point, a lot of them are staying pretty

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Speaker 4: quiet until they start to feel the room and see

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Speaker 4: where they fit in. But they see all like they

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Speaker 4: all seem like good kids.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just the opposite of the media. All

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Speaker 2: attention is bad attention at this point, right, you want

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Speaker 2: to you want to draw it. You're supposed to be good,

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Speaker 2: just play. Yes, Yeah, it's hard. It's a hard balance

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Speaker 2: to strike.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that Coach Babbage said this morning to

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Speaker 1: the media that I found interesting AJ was he and

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Speaker 1: he's been around Shawn, as you know, for several years

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Speaker 1: also about nine years, I think, he said. And he

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Speaker 1: had spent some time with him in Carolina too, and

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Speaker 1: he said, I think Sean will be different in some

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Speaker 1: ways as the DC now from the DC he was

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Speaker 1: in Carolina because he's because coach is very big about

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Speaker 1: being transformational. You know, we know we hear him preaching

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Speaker 1: to you guys all the time, be the best version

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Speaker 1: of yourselves. You know, that daily growth mindset that he's

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Speaker 1: always talking about be one percent better the next day.

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Speaker 1: But he he practiced what practices what he preaches on

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Speaker 1: that front. So, if you could say, just being around

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Speaker 1: him for a period of time here in Buffalo as

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Speaker 1: the head coach and also seeing him as a DC

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Speaker 1: in Carolina, where do you feel he's been maybe transformational

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Speaker 1: in his own skin, you know, as a as a

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Speaker 1: leader of men.

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Speaker 4: Well, I to your point, like you said about being

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Speaker 4: transformational growth mindset, right, it's not an easy transition. I

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Speaker 4: can't imagine. I remember I talked to him when I

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Speaker 4: first got here. It's like, yeah, how is it being

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Speaker 4: a head coach versus a DC? And obviously you can't

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Speaker 4: have your your hands in on the defensive side as

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Speaker 4: much as what he would necessarily like to. Now that

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Speaker 4: he's getting back to that, I think he does a

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Speaker 4: great job delegating leadership. He trusts the coaches in the room,

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Speaker 4: He trusts guys to make the right decision, and I

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Speaker 4: can say that he's doing that from a leadership position

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Speaker 4: though he's out in front, but he's delegating. And obviously,

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Speaker 4: when you have that trust between the coaches, between the

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Speaker 4: head coach the DC, that just has a trickle down

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Speaker 4: effect into the players. And I think with that at

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Speaker 4: our forefront, you're going to see this, hopefully this defense

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Speaker 4: start to blossom.

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Speaker 3: Even though right he's got a lot on his play.

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Speaker 1: Because I would think young coaches, young coaches in roles

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Speaker 1: like that DC or even a young guy that ascends

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Speaker 1: to head coach quickly. I always feel, and I could

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Speaker 1: be way off on this, but you tell me, I

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Speaker 1: always feel like when they know it's their name on

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Speaker 1: the product and they're putting their stamp on it. There's

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Speaker 1: this inherent human nature. I got to control everything, and

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Speaker 1: I want to. Based on what you're saying, I get

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Speaker 1: the sense that he's done this long enough, whether it's

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Speaker 1: DC or head coach now where he feels comfortable enough

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Speaker 1: in his own skin and his own track record to say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to hand this off to coach.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to hand this off to coach back.

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Speaker 4: Ye think that's I think that's where he's learned from

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Speaker 4: obviously being in the DC. Come to a head coach job.

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Speaker 4: You have to deal with the whole team, right you

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Speaker 4: just you can't have to. You have to delegate.

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Speaker 3: You can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't try to control everything. And if you try

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Speaker 4: to control everything, your team's going to fail. And that's

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Speaker 4: just my perspective, and you could probably say that from

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Speaker 4: places across the league or talking to players that have

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Speaker 4: been in systems or places that the coach tries to

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Speaker 4: control everything.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work out well the.

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Speaker 2: Last one for me. And it goes back to what

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Speaker 2: some of what babbitche said today as well. He said

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Speaker 2: they ideally their guy with the green dot, which is

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Speaker 2: the guy that calls a defense and says that is

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Speaker 2: that is that middle linebacker guy. Give us some insights,

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Speaker 2: like what added responsibilities and leadership stuff goes with it.

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Speaker 2: You mean, you saw Tremaine do it. You've seen other

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Speaker 2: guys doing it as well. You've done it. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot extra in that. Give us an idea what that

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Speaker 2: means to you, how it affects the way you prepare

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Speaker 2: every week, how you interact with other guys. Because you know,

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Speaker 2: you're the guy that calls the demens. You're the guy

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Speaker 2: everybody looks at. You're the guy that's on the field

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the time. Give us an idea

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Speaker 2: of why that guy's different, what goes along with that?

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Speaker 4: I think, just to tie that into the head coach up,

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Speaker 4: it's the leadership position on the defense, right, just like

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Speaker 4: Josh has it on the offense. When the call comes in,

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Speaker 4: guys look to you. When the check needs to be made,

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Speaker 4: guys look to you. You have to be able to

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Speaker 4: have great situal rational awareness. You you got to know

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Speaker 4: the job of everybody on the field because you're orchestrating

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Speaker 4: what's going on and when things go bad. You've got

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Speaker 4: to be willing. You got to be willing to fail, right,

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Speaker 4: But you also have to be willing to take that responsibility.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's what the leader of the defense

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Speaker 4: has to do, is take that responsibility whether it's good

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Speaker 4: or bad result, and you have to lead in the front.

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Speaker 2: How does that change your way? Like during the week,

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you got to do extra you know,

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Speaker 2: do you have extra private meetings? Do you hold the

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Speaker 2: clicker at these meetings and say, listen when I do this,

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Speaker 2: you do that, when they do this, I want to

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Speaker 2: do that. All that goes into Yeah, during the week.

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00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's things during the week lead up wise that

864
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 4: the back seven guys right, safeties, DBS linebackers get together,

865
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: watch tape, pull out the call sheet and we'll go

866
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: through our call sheets and we'll make calls and we'll

867
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 4: make checks. And it's just small things like that, for instance,

868
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 4: throughout the week in preparation. So it's your responsibility to

869
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: get everybody on the same page. And if you're not

870
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: doing those small things by game day, you're gonna have chaos.

871
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 6: Right.

872
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this then, because you, as

873
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: a rookie had to know that stuff. I know you

874
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: were behind Louke Keith, well he as a rookie, but

875
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: you had to know that stuff. What kind of knowing

876
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: this scheme and all that didn't entails and the responsibilities

877
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: in calling it are? How big a learning curve is

878
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: that for a Dorian Williams who's in your situation nine

879
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: years later here in Buffalo.

880
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think the learning curve is as big

881
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 4: as what it seems because this defense has a lot

882
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 4: of buckets. Once you learn the basics of one scheme

883
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: or one coverage, that stuff tends to stay together, right,

884
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: So once you learn one system or scheme, it kind

885
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: of trickles down to the other calls. So I don't

886
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 4: think the learning curve is that big. I think it's

887
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: just the studying staying on top of it, and at

888
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: some point it's going to click for him, right, the

889
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: light bulb will go on and usually probably halfway through

890
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: training camp, towards the end of the training camp and

891
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: the live bullets start flying. That's when it starts to

892
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 4: click and the game starts to slow down a little bit.

893
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: And I'm sure you could talk to TV and balin

894
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: last year them coming in as rookies a lot of

895
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: stuff is just moving really fast, and the best thing

896
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 4: you can do is put things in the buckets and

897
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: try to slow things down and slow down your process.

898
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: It happens in steps because you come in you don't

899
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 2: even know what you don't know exactly. Then when you

900
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 2: realize what you don't exactly, you've got to figure out

901
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: how you're going to learn it. And you know what

902
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Yeah, it's a constant.

903
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 4: Even for me going to year eleven, I'm learning stuff

904
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: defensively and schematic wise of like why certain things are

905
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: called here.

906
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just you're always learning.

907
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 4: And just like McDermott as a head coach, always learning

908
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 4: growth mindset, there's gonna be things. Doesn't matter how long

909
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 4: you're in this league. You're gonna have to change, You're

910
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: gonna have to evolve, you're gonna have to continue to

911
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 4: learn because of the lows, you're gonna get left behind.

912
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: And then the last thing I got for you being

913
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: the veteran in the room, kind of to his point,

914
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: you don't know what you don't know. These guys might

915
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: not even know in the meeting room, what questions to

916
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: ask if they see something on tape they like they

917
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: know they want to ask a question, but maybe they

918
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: don't even know how to phrase it because they don't

919
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: know the nuances of this scheme yet. Are there times

920
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: where you're almost I gotta believe you're asking next level

921
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: questions that they're not even at yet, But that by

922
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: doing that in the room, you're you're helping those guys

923
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: that may not even know how to ask the question.

924
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

925
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 4: I'm a very big believer on clarity. And if you

926
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: can have clarity, you can play faster, you can play

927
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: with a clear mind. And if you're out there thinking about, well,

928
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,479
Speaker 4: what did coach say in the meeting on this play?

929
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: What if this happens? If I don't put the question

930
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: I have answered in the meeting, it's just gonna slow

931
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: me down the field. So I and you could probably

932
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: ask the guys in the room. I ask plenty of questions.

933
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: If I have to stop the meeting and ask Bobby

934
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 4: to explain something for myself, I know it's just going

935
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 4: to help you other guys. So going back to you

936
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 4: can't be afraid to fail. You can't be afraid to

937
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: be wrong. If you're wrong, I mean, you have to

938
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 4: fail to learn right. So if you get something wrong

939
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: on tape, ask the question, get it corrected and move on.

940
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 4: A thanks for coming in, No, I appreciate it, appreciate

941
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: you guys.

942
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: Ready to have you good.

943
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: Luck out there through ot as and obviously getting ready

944
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: for training camp which will be here before.

945
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not too far away, not too far away.

946
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: That's Aj Clin joining us here in studio. We will

947
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: take a break, come back in hour number two with

948
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: some of the players fresh off the field at the

949
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: podium addressing the media, including Dawson Knox. When we return

950
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live presented by coll Lot of Health,

951
00:48:41,440 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

952
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: This One Bill's Live presented by Kaleida Health.

953
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: Here we are our number two on a Tuesday. Chris Brown,

954
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. A good conversation there with Aj Flyin,

955
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: who we thought would be a good guest because not

956
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: only can he speak to the middle linebacker competition, having

957
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: been in this defensive system for more than half of

958
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: his ten year career, but he's also a guy that

959
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: knows Sean intimately well, having played his first four years

960
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: in the league under him as a defensive coordinator and

961
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: play caller, So it was really good to kind of

962
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: get his insight not only on Sean, but on the

963
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: system and on the role of the middle linebacker.

964
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's obvious too when he spend time talking

965
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: with him, even off camera, like we had a chance to,

966
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: when he's coming in and leaving, you understand why they

967
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: want him around too.

968
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: Oh.

969
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: He's a quality guy. He's in it for everybody, not

970
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: for himself. Although you know, I think a guy like

971
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: aj Klein you can point to his personality as one

972
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: of the reasons he's had such a nice, long, long career.

973
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 2: He helps the guys around him play better. And he's

974
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: a really good player himself. Although he hasn't started many games,

975
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: if any, for the Buffalo Bills play special teams, does

976
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: what they want him to do, comes in and he

977
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: said it himself. His attitude in the in the meetings,

978
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: on the practice field, and obviously in games is all

979
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 2: about helping the guys around him play their best. That's

980
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: a great example, not only a great example for young

981
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: players that if you can be secure enough in your

982
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: own abilities to say, let me play my best, I'm

983
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: sure I'm gonna have a place on this team. Let

984
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: me play my best, but also I want us to

985
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: be successful as we can. Yeah, that attitude and the

986
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: way his personality you understand why I mean he did.

987
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: He was in Carol, started in Carolina last year and

988
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 2: ended up back in Buffalo for that reason. Quality guy

989
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 2: and a great example for young players to say, this

990
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: is how you is how you be a pro. And

991
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: it's it's fun to talk to him because he does

992
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: have so much intimate knowledge about Sean McDermott his time

993
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: as a defensive courtator now as a head coach too.

994
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 2: He's a great resource.

995
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: So a good conversation with aj. If you missed it,

996
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: you can check it out after we're off the air today,

997
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: probably about a half hour after the show is over.

998
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: You go to the bottom of Buffalo bills dot com

999
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: and you'll see the one Bill's live show listings and

1000
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: you can just pull it up there, or you can

1001
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: go to the Bill's YouTube channel to check it out

1002
00:51:54,880 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: as well. We turn now to the post practice table

1003
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: where the players addressed the media after practice is over,

1004
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: and we begin this afternoon with tight end Dawson Knox.

1005
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 5: You know, there's.

1006
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: There's four personalities they feel that you've gotten to know

1007
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: you for more than's draft. I know there's always competition

1008
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: in this league, but I don't think a lot of

1009
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: people will focused on tighten Some made.

1010
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 5: You sit there.

1011
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 7: So that actually told me before the draft even happened

1012
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 7: that that was a possibility. And and after like kind

1013
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 7: of hearing what we're going to be focused on if

1014
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 7: that was the pick, I was super excited for it.

1015
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 7: So I was sitting there watching the first round with

1016
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 7: Josh and some of the guys, and you know, I'm

1017
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 7: kind of in the back of my mind hoping he

1018
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 7: doesn't get picked up, so we can, you know, get

1019
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 7: him on the team and start doing some of this

1020
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 7: twelve personnel stuff like that's gonna be really fun. I

1021
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 7: think it's going to create some mismatches for both of us,

1022
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 7: something that we might not have had in the past.

1023
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 7: So I think that, you know, he's an incredible offensive weapon.

1024
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 7: Anytime he can get a quarterback like Josh more weapons,

1025
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 7: you know, you should do it.

1026
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: Always know what the team is thinking of the draft.

1027
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I feel like that's got to be one

1028
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: of the hardest things those the front office. You know,

1029
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 7: they could probably have gone fifteen different routes depending on

1030
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 7: what picks were made before them, but you know, big

1031
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 7: baller Beans got it all under control. He knows what

1032
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 7: he's doing, so we got all the trust in the

1033
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 7: world and him and I was, you know, I've been

1034
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 7: super excited to have adult on the team with us.

1035
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: What are your exist.

1036
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 7: Uh, just being more intentional with some of the new

1037
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 7: guys is kind of bringing him to the side. Like,

1038
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 7: you know, if the two's are going and Josh has

1039
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 7: done for that period, he can bring one of the

1040
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 7: receivers up next to him and kind of go through

1041
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 7: certain signals or certain calls that he might give up

1042
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 7: at the line of scrim It's just kind of being

1043
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 7: more direct with some of the guys on just specifics

1044
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 7: of whether it's a hand signal when he sees a

1045
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 7: certain coverage or whether it's you know, if there's a

1046
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 7: hot route because of a blitz or a pressure, what

1047
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 7: he expects in terms of eyes when when to look

1048
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 7: back at him. Just very little intricate details that he's

1049
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 7: very direct with. I'm kind of in between periods. Definite probably,

1050
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 7: I mean, he's always been great at doing that, but

1051
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 7: it's definitely these OTAs I've seen a little bit more

1052
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 7: so that's probably been a point of emphasis for him,

1053
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 7: but he's always been very intentional, so maybe just a

1054
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 7: little more often now with some of the newer guys.

1055
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 5: I think that's an extensive extension of As players get older,

1056
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 5: Josh is more far more comfortable to playbook and he's

1057
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 5: able to do more, and so he start looking at

1058
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 5: other things that you can do.

1059
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure. I think anytime you're in the same

1060
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 7: system for multiple years, you're gonna get more comfortable and

1061
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 7: then you can kind of graduate to an upper level

1062
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 7: of understanding. So I mean it's basically been the same

1063
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 7: system for him for what five or six years now,

1064
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 7: So I think it's it's like a college course, you know,

1065
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 7: you start at one on one and you just keep going.

1066
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 7: And now he's at a graduate level and he's playing

1067
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 7: incredible football, so he can kind of hone in on

1068
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 7: some of those more advanced things and some of those

1069
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 7: more intricacies that he's going to communicate well.

1070
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: With us too.

1071
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 8: Dawston Knox looking to evolve within Ken Dorsey scheme year two.

1072
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: Just.

1073
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 7: Being able to do a little bit of everything, you know,

1074
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 7: maybe a few more option routes here and there, and

1075
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 7: just getting on the same page with Josh, and you know,

1076
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 7: if me and Dalton are in there at the same time,

1077
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 7: you know we might be switching up roles here and there,

1078
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 7: just kind of keeping defense on their heels and hoping to,

1079
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 7: you know, really get some good man on man and

1080
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:02,919
Speaker 7: man coverage matchups that we can.

1081
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: You know, take advantage of.

1082
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 7: But I just see myself kind of growing on last year,

1083
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 7: being a reliable target for Josh when he comes to me,

1084
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 7: whether it's once a game, we're ten times a game,

1085
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 7: and just kind of continuing to grow that chemistry because

1086
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 7: the better time you can get on with the quarterback,

1087
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 7: the better he trusts you, the better the connection is

1088
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 7: gonna be.

1089
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 4: Do you see any difference in Ken as an offensive

1090
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 4: coordinator going into year two and year one, anything he's

1091
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 4: learned or changed unless year.

1092
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 7: I think he's just gotten you know, he's got to

1093
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 7: feel for what he likes and doesn't like. Him and

1094
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 7: Josh have been, you know, inseparable. They're always telling each

1095
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 7: other what they think works and doesn't work, and kind

1096
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 7: of just taking stuff from last year and building on

1097
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 7: that and that relationship with him and Josh has been

1098
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 7: pretty awesome. So I think just growing on the things

1099
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 7: that work from last year and adding then a few

1100
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 7: new wrinkles here and there.

1101
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: Sweet.

1102
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 5: Thanks.

1103
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: So that's Dawstin Knox addressing the meat. Yeah, after practice

1104
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: today OTA session that began week two of OTA's and

1105
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: I think naturally he was anticipating he beginning a lot

1106
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: of questions about Dalton kincaid. Interesting that he was apprised

1107
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: of the fact that drafting a tight end was possibility

1108
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: going into.

1109
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 2: The draft and he was excited about it.

1110
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice when you get a heads up like that.

1111
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: I guess what would you have to tell Dawson Knox

1112
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: do you get him excited about taking somebody number one

1113
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: in the draft, number one pick of the draft for

1114
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: the team at his position.

1115
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: I think you have to tell him it's not going

1116
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: to impact your time on the field, right, I think

1117
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's kind of what I got twelve right.

1118
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: I mean, if Dawson Knox isn't, well, they talked to me,

1119
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 2: told me it might be a possibility.

1120
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: And Dawson's also the ultimate team guys.

1121
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 5: Yes he is.

1122
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: That's true. It could all be you know, fluff. But

1123
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: he's we're watching him right here, We're watching him say

1124
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: this stuff as you're listening to it on the radio.

1125
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: He seemed he always does. He seems genuine, so I

1126
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: was excited about it up. Okay.

1127
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: He also commented on Josh, you know, and being more

1128
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: demonstrative in the drills, more authoritative, and the other interesting

1129
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: thing there was. He said that he and Ken Dorsey

1130
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: have been inseparable since they came back to the listen.

1131
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: You and I were sitting there watching practice today, and

1132
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: I know Bill's mafia always believes this seventeen is unbelievable. Yeah,

1133
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: he's the dude.

1134
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: He's a freaking nature as he's a freak, as von

1135
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: as One freak, freak of nature says in von Miller.

1136
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a freaking nat.

1137
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: He's a freaking nature and he's a force of nature.

1138
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: The guys that guy, and he's he's a Bill for

1139
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: the entirety of his career. And as long as that

1140
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: guy is taking snaps, they're in the conversation for the

1141
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 2: best team out there. Yeah, that's so. I think the

1142
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: fact that he's spending time with Ken Dorsey, I think,

1143
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: you know, a lot has been said Hayes focus his

1144
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: personal life. Thatt that I thought all this stuff going

1145
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: on and you're seeing him all over the country at

1146
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: golf outings, at this event or that event. I know this.

1147
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: He's not forgetting to work out.

1148
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's I also I also think he's

1149
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: one of those guys. And I know you had some

1150
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: teammates like this over the years. He's what you call

1151
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: country strong, you know what I mean. You get raised

1152
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: on a farm and I don't know what happens. I

1153
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: don't know what's in the water. But he can jump high,

1154
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: he can run fast, he can throw the ball a mile.

1155
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he does the offseason workouts here with the team.

1156
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: He like wins the competition every year. He's he's beating receivers.

1157
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: They got these little agility drills. They saw him they

1158
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: were doing the other day, and they have all these

1159
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: guys mixed in, you know this offensive line, different position,

1160
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: defensive backs, wide receivers. The guy's winning them again, no

1161
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: matter who's in the drill.

1162
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's lifting, he's beating line. If they got

1163
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: like he's beating receiver.

1164
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: If they got like ten guys going at the same time,

1165
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: he's finishing first. He's the he's the race horse that

1166
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: has to be the first one to the trough, and

1167
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just that's just the way he is.

1168
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: And and this thing you said, you're right, work ethic.

1169
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: He did grow up on a farm. And I think

1170
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: one of the things about it is, and I thought

1171
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: about it a lot during my career, is I knew

1172
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: guys like this they grow up and will put in

1173
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: a full day's work on the farm whatever. I mean,

1174
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: a full day's work. Oh yes, but if it's the

1175
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: right kind of work, they'll put in a twelve hour

1176
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 2: day and they sink, man, it's a day off. It

1177
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: was a twelve hour day. That's that's the kind of

1178
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: different work.

1179
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: Hard work is expected.

1180
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if not, if it's the work that's that's

1181
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 2: easier than this other work, or if it's funner than

1182
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 2: this other work, you put in a full day's work

1183
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: doing stuff around the farm, it's like, wow, that was

1184
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: a good, that's fun day. Right. Everybody else is like

1185
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to go home at like ten am, you

1186
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 2: know when's lunch. Right, But for guys in that environment,

1187
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 2: they wake up and if it's the right and believe me,

1188
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: football would be considered the right kind of work. Right,

1189
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: it's not it's not work, it's not a twelve hour

1190
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: but that's that's the way they were, you know. Built.

1191
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 2: You get these guys that grow up on the farm

1192
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 2: and then they do hard work. Is really hard work.

1193
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 2: But if it's if it's a different kind of chore

1194
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: on the farm, if you're if you're you know, if

1195
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: you're picking cotton on the farm, or if you're picking

1196
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: oranges on the farm, or if you're riding on a

1197
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: tractor on the farm, one of those things is really

1198
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 2: fun and easy to do. It's a twelve hour day

1199
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: that most peop were like, going, you're gonna do this

1200
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 2: for twelve hours? Better than the other stuff I had

1201
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: to do, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, that's

1202
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: the mentality. And these guys do this job, this football stuff.

1203
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 2: They don't know what, you know, their idea of a

1204
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: hard day's work is different than everybody else's.

1205
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: We have another player that has addressed the media at

1206
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: the post practice table. It is veteran safety Micah Hyde.

1207
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: Good to see him back in the fold on a

1208
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: regular basis after he missed most of last season with

1209
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: a neck injury suffered in Week two. Here is Micah

1210
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: Good as a guy who is so personally In the

1211
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: second play inside outside of the second level.

1212
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: Galley Taylor raptors like, you can do all.

1213
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: Of those same things, how can you help him to

1214
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: have you can see those similarities so that you're dead well.

1215
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 9: I think the best thing for me in my early

1216
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 9: years playing playing Nickel, you know, was was getting reps

1217
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 9: at safety. Also kind of learned that the complete defense

1218
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 9: knowing what they're doing the other side of the field,

1219
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 9: knowing what the defensive line is doing, knowing what the

1220
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 9: linebacker's doing, and then from there, once you know everybody's doing,

1221
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 9: you can play fast.

1222
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: So it's really more about understanding how everything.

1223
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 9: Fits together exactly exactly, so I in this defense that

1224
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 9: we play, it doesn't matter if it's strong safety free

1225
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 9: safety nickel sometimes will you know it's it's basically the

1226
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 9: same position. You get put in the same position every

1227
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 9: now and then, so you got to know everything you.

1228
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 5: Take on with Sean kind of more directors calling the

1229
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 5: shops on that side of the phone, or what's different,

1230
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 5: familiar act.

1231
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 9: It seems the same to me right now, just just

1232
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 9: being out there ot practice, it seems the same. Obviously,

1233
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 9: Sean is is someone in the meetings a little more now,

1234
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 9: and he's a he's a very very intense guy. Go

1235
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 9: get a guy, which you know we've we've experienced that

1236
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 9: us since twenty seventeen. So love to work with him

1237
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 9: and and you know he he loves to talk ball

1238
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 9: and he you know, wants us to be wants us

1239
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 9: to be smart. And then from their playfast What new

1240
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 9: What new things are.

1241
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 5: You finding out about Victorman now that he's a round

1242
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 5: a little bit more?

1243
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 1: What new things, yeah, that you didn't know or didn't notice.

1244
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 9: I'm you know, I guess just as a fan of football,

1245
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 9: I'm curious. You know, I've had I've had an offensive

1246
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 9: uh minded coach before in Green Bay that called the

1247
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 9: plays and was in the offensive room a lot. So

1248
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm speaking for the head coach. So now

1249
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 9: just as a fan of football, and now I'm kind

1250
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 9: of just learning from him how he's how he's approaching

1251
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,479
Speaker 9: this role of being the head coach and also calling

1252
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 9: plays and and being in a defensive room and all

1253
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 9: that and at the same time still showing love to

1254
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 9: the offense. So yeah, I'm just just a fan of

1255
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 9: football seeing how he's getting it done.

1256
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: There's always be at least the last safety tray, the

1257
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: linebackers and now one of those guys, has anything changed

1258
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 2: for the other four players that have been here really

1259
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: for his last year.

1260
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 9: I think everybody just has to uh to ramp it

1261
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 9: up a little bit, you know. I think that we've

1262
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 9: all in the last how many years with those with

1263
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 9: those Corps guys. You know, at the end of the day,

1264
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 9: we haven't won a Super Bowl yet, so we've come

1265
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 9: up a little bit short. So I think just all around,

1266
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 9: whether it's the core guys or guys just getting here,

1267
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 9: I think everyone just has to ramp it up a

1268
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 9: little bit and understand that what we've been doing these

1269
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 9: last couple of years isn't getting it done.

1270
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: We all got to get better in every area.

1271
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 9: And it doesn't matter if guys have come and gone

1272
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 9: throughout the throughout the years, just continue to to work

1273
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 9: together and get better.

1274
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 10: You guys haven't been together amazingly, all three of you, U,

1275
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 10: Tray and and Po for what a year and a

1276
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 10: half or something. I know understand the setting out here,

1277
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 10: but what it's been. What has it been like you

1278
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,919
Speaker 10: guys reuniting and sharing the field again.

1279
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 9: It's awesome, It's amazing. Obviously today's made it back last

1280
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 9: season Thanksgiving, and I was loving every minute of that

1281
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 9: see him go out there and compete. You know, even

1282
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 9: though he wasn't he felt like he wasn't one hundred percent,

1283
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 9: he was still put putting his body online and trying

1284
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 9: to help this team. So for this season, for us

1285
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 9: to get back all being healthy can bring us here.

1286
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 9: To my eyes, I love playing with these guys.

1287
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1288
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 9: It's uh, we were just talking about the other day.

1289
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 9: Today is coming in twenty seventeen. The first day he

1290
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 9: walked in, didn't talk to nobody, didn't say anything to anyone.

1291
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 9: I had to approach him, say what's up. So these

1292
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 9: are guys that throughout the years we've we've all grown together,

1293
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 9: you know, from today's rookie year to Poe and I

1294
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 9: being our fifth year coming in, trying to make a

1295
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 9: name for ourselves, and just you know, tearing coming in

1296
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 9: the following year and playing a bunch of snaps together,

1297
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 9: all having kids and getting married and all that type

1298
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 9: of stuff. So just became matured together, became men together.

1299
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 9: So to be back out there means the world.

1300
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 10: But new appreciation maybe for what maybe you took for granted,

1301
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 10: maybe unknowingly that you guys were just to set it

1302
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 10: and forget it for so long, and it hasn't been that.

1303
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 5: Way for a while.

1304
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, you know, I think

1305
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 9: this it's safe to say that this this place is

1306
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 9: a better organization when when you know we're all healthy.

1307
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 9: It is what it is, and so we're just going

1308
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 9: to continue go out there and compete and try to

1309
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 9: help this team win win ball games.

1310
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 11: Speaking of that of comebacks, when Dumar is ready for contact,

1311
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 11: I just have to ask as a as a person,

1312
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 11: like is there gonna be any hesitancy to engage him

1313
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 11: physically or because he's he's obviously clear to play, but

1314
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 11: is there a mental aspect of getting fully one hundred

1315
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 11: percent into contact with your teammate.

1316
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure there is.

1317
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 5: I'm sure there is.

1318
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 9: You know, anytime you no one's been to that situation before,

1319
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 9: but anytime someone's someone's injured or whatever, there's a little

1320
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 9: mental block to get out there and go out there

1321
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,959
Speaker 9: and play fast such a violent game. I can speak

1322
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 9: from my perspective having next surgery last season, go out there.

1323
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 9: I think I prepared myself last season knowing that, you know,

1324
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 9: if we would have won that playoff game, I was

1325
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 9: gonna be out there, So I already you know, trained

1326
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 9: my mind so gone throughout this whole off season, like

1327
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 9: I'm I'm ready to go, I'm ready to I'm ready

1328
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 9: to hit, I'm ready to tackle, I'm ready to do whatever.

1329
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 9: So I can't necessarily speak for for for d Ham,

1330
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 9: but I know that he is probably training his mind

1331
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 9: right now to mentally get out there and and when

1332
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 9: the time comes to tackle and to hit, he'll be ready.

1333
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: Whatever. Work his way back then.

1334
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: But to see him out there, to be around him work,

1335
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:19,880
Speaker 1: but he's doing.

1336
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 9: What are your thoughts, Well, I said this last year,

1337
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 9: even when he came back, it was good to see him.

1338
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 9: But every time I see him, it's just it's just

1339
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 9: a it seems like a bright light.

1340
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: You know.

1341
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 9: He just brings positivity, fun to be around. I was

1342
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 9: joking with him today. He was looking swollen.

1343
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

1344
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 9: He said he got a little lift in last night.

1345
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 9: So it's just good to have d him back and

1346
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 9: and and talking ball and him going to practice, getting

1347
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 9: reps and stuff like that. But I think all in all,

1348
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 9: he's just a great dude to be around. And you

1349
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 9: could be off the football field and he's just fun

1350
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 9: to be around. So it's good to have him back

1351
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 9: in the meeting rooms joking around and uh as d

1352
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 9: M kind of.

1353
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 8: Has your communications been with the linebackers these past couple

1354
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 8: of weeks in OTAs and I don't as Tyro Dobson

1355
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 8: merged as that guy.

1356
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 9: I think that, uh, I think that the the last

1357
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 9: couple of weeks just they've kind of been rotating. So,

1358
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 9: you know, I think on for us in the back

1359
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 9: end communicating with guys, Like we just talked about the

1360
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 9: core guys being here, we understand, we see, you know,

1361
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 9: what each other sees, and the communication aspect of of

1362
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 9: making calls and all that type of stuff is it's

1363
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 9: pretty I don't want to say easy, because no matter

1364
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 9: what it's it's never easy, but it's it's easier. But

1365
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 9: when you have guys that are rotating, it's you know,

1366
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 9: kind of unfamiliar making calls and stuff like that. See

1367
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 9: the same things. But they're doing an amazing job. You know,

1368
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 9: t Dots out there being vocal, which is which is

1369
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 9: something that you know, I'm sure they had to get

1370
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 9: on him about about being more vocal, especially being the

1371
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 9: middle linebacker and getting the defense lined up and stuff

1372
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 9: like that. So but they're all doing an amazing job.

1373
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 9: And I know that with my past experience with Bobby Babbage,

1374
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 9: you know he's gonna get those boys right. He's gonna

1375
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 9: he's gonna talk so much too, and he's gonna get

1376
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 9: on their nerves. And I hope he sees this to

1377
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 9: to where they're making the right calls. That's what he

1378
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 9: he does. He's an awesome coach. He took you know,

1379
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 9: obviously Poe and I to to where we are today

1380
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 9: Maine in Milano to where they to where they are today.

1381
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 9: So he'll do the same with those young guys.

1382
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: Probably said that it's a competition and they're not set

1383
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: the thing. So you mentioned that, you know it's meditating

1384
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: kind of guys.

1385
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 2: How does that?

1386
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 3: I mean, ye's been there calling the plays and been

1387
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 3: that guy, and how.

1388
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: Much does that impact you?

1389
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1390
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 9: I think ultimately all we can do is just do

1391
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 9: the best we can communicate. We work with from the

1392
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 9: from the back step when we work together. Obviously every

1393
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 9: single play making calls like that, we got to see

1394
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 9: the same things. But at the end of the day,

1395
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 9: I think this OTAs is important because it's really the

1396
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 9: middle linebacker show. Like if you make a call and

1397
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 9: it's wrong. We're all playing that wrong call no matter what,

1398
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 9: We're on the same same sheet of music. So I

1399
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 9: think it's just about being confident and having those young

1400
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 9: guys just being precise, make a call and let's go

1401
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 9: out there and play fast.

1402
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 6: Process ready for this.

1403
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: To content all that. What was that like, Like, how

1404
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: do you step back into You.

1405
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 9: Gotta be crazy. You gotta be crazy. No, you know,

1406
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 9: I'm joking around, but I'm being kind of serious. To

1407
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 9: play this game each and every week, you gotta be

1408
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 9: wired different, and uh, you gotta have a chip on

1409
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 9: your shoulder. So for me almost getting back last year

1410
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 9: but then having this whole off season to prepare, I'm excited.

1411
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 9: I'm thirty two. What thirty two year old comes back

1412
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 9: after next surgery and and balls out. That's what I'm

1413
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 9: trying to do. So, you know, you gotta gotta be

1414
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 9: a little wired different. But a lot of guys around

1415
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 9: here like that, and that's what's That's what you know,

1416
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 9: cool to be around a bunch of different guys like

1417
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 9: last year when maybe.

1418
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 6: Out there, like what are you thinking, like can you

1419
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 6: picture yourself out there?

1420
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 9: Like what kind of likes I pictured myself from when

1421
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 9: I got surgery and I was, you know, back in

1422
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 9: San Diego, and I was talking to my wife about

1423
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 9: trying to convince my doctor to eventually let me get back.

1424
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 9: I knew the window and I and I just told myself,

1425
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 9: you know, AFC Championship Game, I'm gonna be out there

1426
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 9: and be ready. So I had a timeline that was

1427
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 9: building up until then. And I think that that's what

1428
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 9: a lot of guys do when it comes to injuries.

1429
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 9: You know, they have a timeline of when they want

1430
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 9: to get back, and you just you keep me meeting

1431
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 9: those goals, you know, throughout the process, and eventually it

1432
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 9: comes and you just got to, you know, mentally be

1433
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 9: ready to go. But a lot of the time, I

1434
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 9: think it's said to say, physically, you you'll feel, you'll

1435
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 9: feel better and you'll feel ready to go, but mentally

1436
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 9: you have to really prepare yourself. And the NFL is

1437
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 9: really a mental game each and every week. You got

1438
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 9: to be committed to go out there and play fast,

1439
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 9: and on top of that, watch a lot of films.

1440
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 9: So I think the guys that play a bunch of years,

1441
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 9: you know, ten plus years, are mentally just that much

1442
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 9: better than everybody else means I helped you being.

1443
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 11: Around last year, like standing in the facility around you,

1444
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 11: play that practice, and so how us you can that

1445
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 11: help mentally the heart the same.

1446
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I was joking around the other day,

1447
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 9: but I was doing too much. I was doing too much,

1448
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 9: but you know, it just kept me engaged. I feel like,

1449
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 9: you know, I needed it more than what the what

1450
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 9: the team did. And so, you know, just speaking to

1451
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 9: some guys that said it was cool that I was around,

1452
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 9: but I just think mentally, for me, I didn't want

1453
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 9: to get you know, I didn't want to be a

1454
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 9: way too long and kind of forget whatever it's a

1455
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 9: playbook or my job or whatever. So I try to

1456
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 9: stay engaged being the meetings each and every week, and

1457
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 9: I think mentally you always have room to grow, whether

1458
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 9: if you can't get on the field or not. I

1459
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 9: think last year it helped me out. I learned, you know,

1460
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 9: a few more things scheme wise, football wise, kind of

1461
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 9: put myself in the offensive coordinator position going against our

1462
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 9: defense and understanding the weaknesses of our defense or or

1463
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 9: matchup wise what they're looking for. So I'm not gonna

1464
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 9: be a coach one day. I'm gonna say that right now,

1465
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 9: but mentally it prepared me for for this season.

1466
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked you since Aaron Rodgers traded

1467
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: to the Jets. Teammate.

1468
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:56,799
Speaker 9: Great friends yet.

1469
01:13:58,960 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: Year.

1470
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 9: It's gonna be fun, gonna be fine. I joke around already.

1471
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,719
Speaker 9: I got I got a trophy case back in San Diego.

1472
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 9: I got some pretty good interception balls in there. I

1473
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 9: got Pat Mahomes, I got Tom Brady, and I'm looking

1474
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 9: to get I'm looking to get Aaron. So I can't

1475
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 9: wait to see him to tell him that. But uh no,

1476
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 9: just great friends. And and I love the competition, love

1477
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 9: the compete. See obviously seeing them guys do what they

1478
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 9: did in Green Bay for all those years. I was

1479
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 9: a part of it four years, and you know, it's

1480
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 9: just playing remarkable ball. So, like I said, great friends,

1481
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 9: But what comes Sunday or Monday night, opening weekend, Uh,

1482
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 9: we'll be ready to go. It's no no hugs and laughing,

1483
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 9: it's gonna be it's gonna be game time.

1484
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 5: Where you're not gonna You're not gonna remember you said

1485
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 5: that when we ask you about it.

1486
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: Probably yeah, yeah, it's probably gonna.

1487
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: Happen for sure, all Right, that's Mike Hide addressing the

1488
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: media already playing coy on, saying he wants to get

1489
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: a pick off Aaron Rodgers in week one to add

1490
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: to his trophy case. Uh, since he's got one on Brady,

1491
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: he's got another on my homes. I would love to

1492
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: add Rogers. That would be three for three in the

1493
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,560
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame category in terms of picks off of quarterbacks.

1494
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: You would think, Yeah, I think that's what every dB

1495
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: would have as their highest standard would they pick off?

1496
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: And also it was it was nice to hear him

1497
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: say how much he missed being away. When he was

1498
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: away due to the neck injury. It's kind of the

1499
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: old don't know what you got till it's gone kind

1500
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: of thing. He just he's really really happy to be back.

1501
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: And you know, Poyer was here last week at least

1502
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: during the day that we were able to watch, but

1503
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: was not participating. He was kind of observing. This week,

1504
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Speaker 1: he was back in the fold participating. So it was

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01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan and Micah, you know, the band was

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01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: back together again, I guess so to speak.

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01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan, Micah, Trey, Tarn, Tarren, the whole crew, and

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: then Elam and Benford and the Dane Dane. I mean,

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01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: it's like getting the band the boy are back in

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 2: town kind of thing. But it's it's gonna be fun

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01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: to think think about. And we were talking to Aj

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Speaker 2: Klein as he was in here on the last segment

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Speaker 2: about how nice it is and how good he feels.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: It is may right, so nobody's hitting yet, right, nobody's hitting,

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01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: but to have to be able to think about how

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01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 2: good those guys have been in the past, and to

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01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: have them all back intact, all healthy at once. No

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01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: telling how long it lasts, of course, but man, oh man,

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01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: it gives you some gives you some comfort knowing that

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01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: Sean mcdermot's going to be calling the plays and you

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01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: got some pretty good players out there running them.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. When we come back,

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01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: more of the discussion on OTA sessions. Your phone calls

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Speaker 1: if you want to join us at eighth three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty eighty five, fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 1: and perhaps a little time for some NFL true false.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute here on One Bill's Live. We

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Speaker 1: may be bringing that to you next here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back Chris Brown, Steve taking with you

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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday, and Steve, I think it's time that

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01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: we fire up a little NFL True False, which, as

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01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:17,799
Speaker 1: you know, is presented by Patron Tequila, the official tequila

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills.

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01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: I should say something. Let's light this candle, do something.

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01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: What's what is the proper what are the proper you know.

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01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 1: Something like that.

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01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 2: Whatever, Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So NFL True False number one, Steve, the Jets

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01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: would be the top candidate for HBO's Hard Knocks this year. Now.

1542
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: The last time they were was the Rex Ryan Jets

1543
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: Let's go get a gd snack if you remember that

1544
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: was the trademark line from that edition.

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01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm just going down the list of better candidates, and

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01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm having trouble coming up with as the Lions last year,

1547
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: sure they're done. All the playoff teams don't have to

1548
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: do it. Who would be? Maybe the Giants might be

1549
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: a good one too, but there is.

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01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: Did you see Dable and Shane signing off on that.

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01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 9: I don't know.

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01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 2: Let me just say this, the Jets on Hard Knocks

1553
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: would be absolutely delicious, and I don't even watch that show.

1554
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: I would tune in for that. That show would do

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl numbers. It wouldn't do There's no way, but

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01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm telling you what it would people, It would kill

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01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: it in the numbers. Yes, oh my goodness.

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01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: They have to be the top candidate for HBO.

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01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: You know it comes down if I'm a if I'm

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01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: a betting man and I'm not, I would expect Salah

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01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: to say no way, Jose, because the expects they're already

1563
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: through the roof.

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01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. You might say we want all guess

1565
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: and no breaks that I don't know, maybe just because

1566
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: if it all, if it all goes south, the real

1567
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 2: reasons will be shown. It won't be you. You gotta

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01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 2: have confidence. Ain't gonna be you that messes it up?

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: Right, league, go full send on it.

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01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 2: Go full guess. Absolutely, we'll do it because Salah is

1571
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 2: let's face it, sala is a guy that there's a

1572
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: lot of respect for him around the league. His players

1573
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:30,679
Speaker 2: love him, his coach is loving his competitors and fellow

1574
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: head coaches have a lot of respect for the guy,

1575
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: both as a coordinator now as a head coach. If

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01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: it goes belly up in New York. If I'm Sala

1577
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: I would have enough faith in myself to say, you

1578
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: know what, I know what I'm doing. I'm gonna make

1579
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: this happen and let it go, because if it does

1580
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 2: go belly up, there's gonna be thirty one other owners going.

1581
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 2: You know what, Salah was actually a guy that really

1582
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 2: tried to keep it afloat. I like that guy, you

1583
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Yeah, Now do I think it

1584
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 2: would add gasoline to it? Is already stands to be

1585
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: one spark away from a bonfire towering inferno? Exactly, it's

1586
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 2: gonna be one spark away. There's gonna be so much

1587
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: fuel in that locker room. You're going to be smoking

1588
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: a big fat cigar sitting on top of an open

1589
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 2: pool of gasoline. So I don't know how much you know,

1590
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you.

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01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: Want to you know, highly flammable, right.

1592
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to like just totally

1593
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: throw away the ashtray in that situation, but I think.

1594
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: You would be if you if you agree to beyond

1595
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: that show, you.

1596
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 2: Were absolutely sitting in a pair of underwear over a

1597
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 2: pool of gasoline smoking. If you if you bring hard

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01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: k not I just.

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01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: Think you're you're only asking, You're inviting the New York

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01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: media to ask you about more stuff that they otherwise

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01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: would have no clue about. In a year of unbridled

1602
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: and insanely lofty expectators.

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01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 2: Though, what would be the jetsiest thing to do to

1604
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 2: say yes? Oh yeah, oh yeah, yes, and not only

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01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: not only say yes, but go and double down say

1606
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 2: not only are we going to say yes, it's gonna

1607
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: be the greatest, it's gonna be, It's going to be

1608
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: the the most unbelievable hard knocks of all time watches.

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01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 2: That would be the jetsiest thing to do.

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01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: You have any and all access and no restrictions.

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01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: We will okay all footage. Oh my gosh, that'd be

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01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 2: something that would.

1613
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: So are you saying? I say they are the top Canada. Absolutely,

1614
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm still not convinced they're going to take.

1615
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: They may not be, they may not get it, but

1616
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: I'll say words gonna come out. They're going to be asked.

1617
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: They are going to be asked, for sure, And I

1618
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: would say, HBO.

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01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: Would over the moon if they could.

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01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: Yes. Now, I'm sure the Jets will say yes, except

1621
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: that you know, they get final say in what's going

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01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 2: to be aired? Of course they're you know, all that.

1623
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: Stuff NFL true false. Number two Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott

1624
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: is facing a make or break season in twenty twenty three.

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01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 2: Now, that's false. Dak could come out and stumble and

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: bumble his way through the entire season. He's still going

1627
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 2: to be their starting quarterback for the foreseeable future. His

1628
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 2: deal demands it, and I think it does. Anyway, Dak

1629
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 2: Prescott's not going anywhere no matter how this season goes.

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01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 1: There there is an out in his contract in twenty

1631
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: twenty four. This is his age thirty season, and the

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01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:48,679
Speaker 1: Cowboys can get out from under it in twenty twenty four,

1633
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 1: so next off season, which would only leave the final

1634
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 1: year of his deal on the books. Dead cap sixty

1635
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: one point nine million. Do you remember when it was

1636
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 1: like unheard of to have a dead cap of like

1637
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: twenty million on a player, And then the Carson Wentz

1638
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: trade happened. The Eagles absorb thirty seven million in dead cap,

1639
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, yeah, it's just dead cap,

1640
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Oh, we got a potential out

1641
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: in the contract for Dak too. Oh yeah, how much

1642
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: is it? Ah, it's about sixty two million in dead cap.

1643
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 1: It's not a big deal.

1644
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: Come again, He's got a four year, one hundred and

1645
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 2: sixty million dollar deal guaranteed. One hundred and twenty six

1646
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: million of it is guaranteed, and it expires in twenty

1647
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 2: twenty five. He's not going anywhere. He's not going anywhere.

1648
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: How far do you think he has to get to

1649
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: keep Here's the thing, it's not to make his best,

1650
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: not to win the NFC.

1651
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: Right, it's not his make or break here for him,

1652
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: Like they got to go to and win the Super

1653
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 2: Bowl or they got blah blah, blah blah. They don't

1654
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 2: even have to go to the playoff, depending on what

1655
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 2: happens around what Depending on what happens around him. There's

1656
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 2: a scenario there where he plays well, the team flops

1657
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: tough injuries, or two or three other teams in the

1658
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: East go off unexpectedly. Philly plays well, the Giants play well,

1659
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: and Dallas is left out of it by the skin

1660
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 2: of their teeth because the other division winners play well. Right, Like,

1661
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 2: they go ten and seven, right exactly, they go ten

1662
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 2: and seven, they get shut out or eleven and six

1663
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 2: and they go shut get shut out because there's you

1664
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 2: know seven tie break right that that could happen. So

1665
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 2: it's not a make or break year for him. And

1666
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 2: even even though if he plays like he has, he's okay.

1667
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: I would tend to say false too, not so much

1668
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: because of Prescott, but because of past precedent with Jerry

1669
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: Jones and the Cowboys organization. Tony Romo didn't win him

1670
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: a hill of beans, and they kept going back to

1671
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: him year after year after year and didn't change or

1672
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 1: make a change at the quarterback position. So for those

1673
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: reasons of past precedent, yeah, I will say false as well.

1674
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they tend to, yeah, get their favorite quarterbacks named

1675
01:24:58,040 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 2: tattooed on.

1676
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: Them and go yeah, all right, NFL true false Number

1677
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: three Steve, The Seahawks should have drafted a quarterback with

1678
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: at least one of their two first round picks. They

1679
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 1: picked five and twenty. They were one of five teams

1680
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: with two first rounders, and they did not take a

1681
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: quarterback in what was deemed to be a relatively quarterback

1682
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,759
Speaker 1: rich draft at the top.

1683
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 2: I would say no, because next year has every indication

1684
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 2: that it's going to be a quarterback rich draft. Geno

1685
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 2: Smith earned the job. You don't want to throw a

1686
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to throw a wrench into

1687
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: that machine. That Geno Smith came out had his best

1688
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: year as a pro by far, and was it maybe

1689
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 2: well he was he the comeback player of the year.

1690
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 2: Did they.

1691
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: I can't remember.

1692
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: He came back from being obscure into prominence because he

1693
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: played well. That was probably as big a surprise as

1694
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 2: any surprise in the league this year was Geno Smith's

1695
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: play at quarterbacks in Seattle Seahawks. He was the comeback

1696
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 2: player of the year. And he came back from being obscure,

1697
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 2: not from being injured. He came back from mediocrity. Yeah,

1698
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 2: he came back from irrelevancy. That was his comeback. I mean, seriously,

1699
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 2: big that what are you? That's the criteria. Now you

1700
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: have to suck for a decade and then come back

1701
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 2: and get a shot at it and you can be

1702
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: comeback player of the year because you stunk and now

1703
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: you don't. That's so yes, I think because of Geno Smith.

1704
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: And they just gave him a new deal. No ride him.

1705
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 2: He at some deep part, I don't know Geno from anybody.

1706
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 2: I know what his reputation was with the Jets. It

1707
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 2: didn't go well. He was a little entitled, he was

1708
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 2: hard to get along with. He had his teammates and

1709
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: breaking his jaw. I mean, he was not a fun

1710
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 2: guy to be around. And I'm all about second chances,

1711
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: and Seattle gave him one and he has made the

1712
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 2: most of it. So for all of those things, there's

1713
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 2: got to be something inside Gino Smith that says, man, omanna,

1714
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: I owe it to this organization, I owe it to myself,

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Speaker 2: to my organization, to my teammates. I'm gonna be this guy.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. So No, I don't think the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 2: should have drafted a guy to start replacing him just

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Speaker 2: after they've discovered him and he's rediscovered himself.

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Speaker 1: I think the players they drafted will say a lot

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Speaker 1: about whether this was the right or the wrong call.

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Speaker 1: They got Devin Witherspoon one of the best corners in

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Speaker 1: the draft, and Jackson Smith and Jigba arguably the best

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Speaker 1: route running receiver in the draft. If those guys pan

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Speaker 1: out for today's Seahawks, they're gonna look really, really smart

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Speaker 1: and people aren't going to care that they skipped out

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Speaker 1: on That's right, you know, Levis or anybody else, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, Hendon Hooker. We got to take a break here,

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Speaker 1: but that was NFL True Falls presented by Patrona Tequila,

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Speaker 1: the official tequila of the Buffalo Bills. We take a break,

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Speaker 1: some final thoughts and maybe a phone call when we

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Speaker 1: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colia Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. One final segment. We're going to take a

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Speaker 1: quick call here. We'll go to Mark in West Seneca. Mark,

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Speaker 1: you got about thirty seconds? What you got for us? Oh?

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Speaker 6: Then quickly, guys, I wanted to ask this question for

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Speaker 6: a long time, and you both have a unique perspective

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Speaker 6: from the media standpoint, from the locker room. If there's

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Speaker 6: any kind of trait that you've noticed that it's similar

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01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 6: between Jim Kelly and Josh something behind the scenes that

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01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 6: wouldn't be apparent to the fans, or if you know,

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01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 6: the obvious stuff of from looking at it, from watching

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Speaker 6: games and whatever and seeing interviews, but just something behind

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Speaker 6: the scenes that you've noticed that they're very similar in

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01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 6: whatever way, because they're both obviously Jim Kelly. Besides you,

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Speaker 6: Steve is one of my favorite all time players. And

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Speaker 6: if you're a Bill's fan who doesn't love Josh these days, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's a good question, BROWNI you want to go first.

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Speaker 1: I'll just be brief and say for me, it's the

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Speaker 1: ability to rally people around them. They are magnetic personalities

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Speaker 1: in a locker room, which is not always easy, even

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01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. But they're both very good at

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01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 1: pulling people together and moving them in one direction.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was going to say. Jim and

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01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: Josh are the same in one respect. Guys want to

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Speaker 2: join them, they want to jump on with them, and

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01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: let's go both very different personalities but the same effect.

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Speaker 2: Everybody wants to play football with them.

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Speaker 1: That's it for us on a Tuesday. We'll catch you

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday at one