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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast taking applications for Mark's next

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Speaker 1: pet team.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL

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Speaker 2: AFC NFC Championship Game preview edition. How about that? Dan

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Speaker 2: Hans is here with heroes, Mark Sessler, Rag Rosenthal. Boys,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at this. I'm looking. I'm looking and Mark,

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Speaker 2: I know you got you like new things. You always

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Speaker 2: like something new, sure like any like not a takedown,

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Speaker 2: just the reality. No, but it's a reality. Many humans

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Speaker 2: would agree. So if we get Baltimore and San Francisco

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Speaker 2: at the end of this weekend, that's a rematch of

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl forty seven. We get new If we get

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Speaker 2: Casey at San Francisco, that's a rematch of Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: fifty four. Detroit a whole new world where's somewhere else

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Speaker 2: never appeared in a super Bowl. In fact, I believe

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Speaker 2: this is their second NFC title game period.

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Speaker 3: We also are getting a rematch of thirty eight to six,

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Speaker 3: the classic Ravens beat down from Week eight Ravens Lions.

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Speaker 3: If that happened, just saying from this, we don't that

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Speaker 3: was tough that that does not count as as a remiss.

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Speaker 2: Week eight feels so far away. But yeah, so the

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Speaker 2: Lions are the nubie here now. The Chiefs are the

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Speaker 2: old guard. The Chiefs are if you are somebody that

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Speaker 2: don't wants something fresh. And as much as I love

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Speaker 2: America is growing a bit weary with the Chiefs. I

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Speaker 2: feel like Mark, even if you're a Ravens hater, which

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Speaker 2: you are, it might be it might behoove us if

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Speaker 2: we want something new to get even though the Ravens

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Speaker 2: have been in this game periodically throughout the century, to

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Speaker 4: I think the Lions are the great hope of newness.

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Speaker 4: Don't try to sell me on any of the other

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Speaker 4: three teams. And I like, you know, the intro talked

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Speaker 4: about my pet teams or this way, and Ravens haven't

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Speaker 4: even been in this week and you have a Ravens

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Speaker 4: fetish and I acknowledge that, like I have a different relationship.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: But you're saying new for a long time. I was

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Speaker 3: two days ago to me.

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Speaker 2: We I we were just there. The lights, you know,

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Speaker 3: We we we It feels like we've been doing this

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Speaker 3: Conference Championship preview here.

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Speaker 2: Wow, first time.

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Speaker 4: But I did write the NFL dot com when the

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Speaker 2: Out you did the blackout store. Yeah, it was like

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Speaker 2: you write this, It's like, I don't what's happening is is?

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Speaker 2: How is you know why you were the super because

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Speaker 2: I wrote the Beyonce halftime show article. Right, just people

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Speaker 2: getting banged left and right. We're all about to die.

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Speaker 2: Who's on this one? Just off? All right? I'll never

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Speaker 2: forget that. And by the way, Jim Harbaugh was the

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Speaker 2: be coming up in conversation a little bit later today.

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget that Super Bowl because my father, with

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Speaker 2: But if you had a chance to do that with

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Speaker 2: That was like my first fear that we were all

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Speaker 3: My dad's first Super Bowl as well, was it shared it?

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Speaker 4: Were you frightened for your dad? I generally it was

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Speaker 4: assigning articles to you and me. He was not concerned

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Speaker 2: I'm optimist. This is such a greg outlook, but it's

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Speaker 3: I think it's as someone that lived in New Orleans

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Speaker 2: one of our favorites with NFL Network. He is been

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Speaker 2: embedded with the Chiefs covering that team and covering this

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Speaker 2: AFC finale. It is the season finale of the AFC

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Speaker 2: The Great Cynthia Friedland will be in studio. So let's

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Speaker 2: get to it without further ado. Game one. Oh, there's

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Speaker 2: two games. How about that? There's only two games on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: We're still doing clearly going way over an hour, just

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Speaker 3: We've got two guests, We've got news at the back end.

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Speaker 3: It's oh, it's it's gonna be Oh, it's a slam dunk.

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Speaker 2: First game, three pm, Eastern CBS Nance Romo Wolf sent

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Speaker 2: and you hear our boy mad Dog. Get after Roma,

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Speaker 2: mad Dog, I would say, I think you said it. Well.

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Speaker 4: When mad Dog is right, he's right when he gets

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Speaker 4: He went after Tony Romo, who dropped a attempted to

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Speaker 2: Like, just make it clear. So he says, immaculate reception

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Speaker 3: And I think of some Patriots years like six when

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Speaker 4: They they're like, they're these sort of polar opposite of

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Speaker 4: This is like this is a huge test of Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: They became a completely different offense the last two weeks.

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Speaker 2: And you're on the road.

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Speaker 2: would not be surprised that the Ravens have their way.

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Speaker 2: That said that said, there is the Mahomes component of everything.

436
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, as you may have heard, Mark, played his

437
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Speaker 2: first road game, true road game in the playoffs last

438
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Speaker 2: week and as you can imagine, a lot of fuel

439
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Speaker 2: to the fire to be on the road, to be

440
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Speaker 2: an underdog and all that. This is his postgame locker

441
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Speaker 2: room comments to his teammates after the big victory in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Hey, they asked for it, and they got what they

443
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Speaker 1: asked for.

444
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Speaker 3: But he said it this day done.

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Speaker 2: All right. And with that said, let's welcome in our guest,

446
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Speaker 2: because that's of Patrick Mahomes that these guys the great ones,

447
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: they're always looking for a new challenge. It's like James

448
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 2: Palmer in his personal life. Uh. And for Patrick Mahomes

449
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 2: right now, it is this idea of being doubted, being

450
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Speaker 2: on the road, being viewed as the guy. Let's get

451
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Speaker 2: them out of here so we get some fresh blood

452
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Speaker 2: in James Palmer. Welcome to the show. How are you, buddy.

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Speaker 6: I'm good, guys. I'm glad we're starting with this because

454
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Speaker 6: I've gotten a lot of heat on the Twitters and

455
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Speaker 6: the exes about this. Patrick Mahomes playing on the road.

456
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Speaker 6: If you bring this up, the Chiefs Kingdom will attack you,

457
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Speaker 6: like nobody's business.

458
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Speaker 2: What's got the fired up.

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Speaker 5: I don't just think of it as a storyline, because this.

460
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Speaker 2: Is what I know.

461
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Speaker 6: But this is what they say. Hey, guys. They go, well, oh,

462
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Speaker 6: that's Super Bowl in Tampa. That wasn't a road game.

463
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Speaker 2: Well that was a home.

464
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Speaker 6: Game for Tampa. I was like, well, well listen, guys,

465
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Speaker 6: that went terribly wrong, like your offense could not function.

466
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Speaker 6: I was in that stadium. It was half full. I

467
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 6: was in some sort of box with the girl from

468
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Speaker 6: Pitch Perfect and the guy from Pitch Perfect was his

469
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Speaker 6: name Adam Divine of some sort.

470
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Speaker 2: I think, wow.

471
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Speaker 6: And there were very few of us watching. I don't

472
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Speaker 6: I don't understand why they were so angry.

473
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Speaker 2: We don't need to just bringing this, but we don't

474
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Speaker 2: need to talk about the COVID Super Bowl. James, like,

475
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 2: the COVID Super Bowl was in the middle of a

476
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Speaker 2: global health catastrophe. So let's just throw that out as

477
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Speaker 2: an opinion or an example of anything.

478
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Speaker 6: Come on, Yeah, I get the weekend Walls by himself.

479
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Speaker 4: It was weird, Adam divine though, nice hang for you

480
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Speaker 4: during a strange Super Bowl event.

481
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Speaker 3: And the difference of one of the many differences, like

482
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Speaker 3: at that point, their offensive line is falling up, and

483
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: you've been covering this team all year and one reason,

484
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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone should have been digging any dirt

485
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Speaker 3: on them.

486
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Speaker 2: As rough as the offense has looked.

487
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Speaker 3: It's like, the fact is it's still Mahomes with Andy

488
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: Reid and the best defense he's ever had, and their

489
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: offensive line playing outstanding. And I guess that was If

490
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Speaker 3: you have Mahomes and an offensive line, I don't care

491
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Speaker 3: how poorly the rest of the group is playing. They

492
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Speaker 3: got to have a chance, like, how has the vibes

493
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: been this week and everything around this team in terms

494
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Speaker 3: of this challenge, because they got to feel like this

495
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Speaker 3: challenge against the Ravens defense is another step up from

496
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Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks.

497
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's great.

498
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Speaker 6: It's a massive step up from the walking wounded they

499
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Speaker 6: faced at that game. I was in Buffalo I mean,

500
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Speaker 6: this group is far and away different than that Buffalo

501
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Speaker 6: group that they figured out a way to put eleven

502
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Speaker 6: guys on the field. I think this group is completely different.

503
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Speaker 6: If Joe Toney can't play, and talking to people that

504
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Speaker 6: I know that are in the know in Kansas City,

505
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Speaker 6: it's going to be a long, long stretch for him

506
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Speaker 6: to try to go in this game on Sunday. And

507
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Speaker 6: I've talked to a number of people that sayd he's

508
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 6: really the guy over the last couple of years that

509
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 6: has made this offense go. If you remember they brought

510
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 6: him in that big free agent contract I think it

511
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 6: was after that game in Tampa we're talking about, and

512
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 6: he's been that mentor to Creed Humphrey and Tray Smith,

513
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 6: the center and the guard on the other side, to

514
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 6: really give them that anchor of the offensive line and

515
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 6: the way that he's kind of run that entire group.

516
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Speaker 6: He's really the guy that.

517
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Speaker 2: Makes it go.

518
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Speaker 6: So I do think that interior has been a big

519
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 6: part of some of the success that they've struggled through

520
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 6: some of this guys. I do think they've just tried

521
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 6: to help out their offensive line a bunch. I heard

522
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 6: you guys talking about in a number of tight ends

523
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Speaker 6: that they've been putting out there. You haven't heard Donovan

524
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Speaker 6: Smith's name at the left tackle spots since he's returned

525
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Speaker 6: from the neck injury. I think you know, the body

526
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 6: was benefiting from getting off those legs for a couple

527
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Speaker 6: of weeks. He's been a little bit better than he

528
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Speaker 6: was during the season, and Wanye Morris was out there

529
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Speaker 6: for him. But if he has time, Patrick Mahomes has time,

530
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Speaker 6: he's gonna find ways to make plays. I think that's

531
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Speaker 6: the part that we're always kind of of bringing up

532
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 6: and specifically in the postseason. It's it's not just this

533
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 6: the scrambling ability, it's he runs more on his own,

534
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 6: like he puts the offense on his back at times.

535
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Speaker 6: It's just gonna be and we can talk about it

536
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 6: the matchup of Kelsey if he can get free, and

537
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 6: then it's really him and Rashi Rice and Isaiah Pacheco

538
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 6: that that's kind of their offense. They ran it the

539
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 6: best they did this entire year. They think in Buffalo

540
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Speaker 6: it's probably the best game plan Andy Reid thought Matt

541
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Speaker 6: Nagy has had this season. But again, it's really kind

542
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 6: of been those three guys. I'm going on here, But

543
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Speaker 6: I do want to make this point. They feel like

544
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 6: the offense has been better since Sky Moore and Caadarius

545
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 6: Tony have been injured. Like, no, Lie, it's.

546
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Speaker 2: It's just make and it makes sense.

547
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Speaker 6: They have the receiver spots. Yeah, it's it's better for us. Yeah,

548
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 6: they thought they were playing too many players, honestly, rotating

549
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 6: too many receivers. Nobody was getting in a rhythm, and

550
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 6: that kind of those two injuries happening. They feel like

551
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 6: that's actually benefited the offense.

552
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Speaker 4: All right, So let's go off of that, because right now,

553
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: cut to Kansas City, sixty feet below the complex. You've

554
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 4: got Andy Reid surrounded by like six boxes of Chinese

555
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: food cooking up some sort of trick play.

556
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Speaker 2: They love to do this on a weekly basis.

557
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Speaker 4: Well, right, so, like you're talking about like two players

558
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: are better not being part of the offense on some level.

559
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: You got your your Kelsey's your obvious guys, what's the

560
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: X factor? Like I want you to predict a guy

561
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Speaker 4: that we're going to be talking about Sunday night that

562
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: we were not expecting last week was MVS. It's like

563
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 4: these guys have been hot and cold all year what's

564
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 4: the trick, what's the happening, what's thee like the secret

565
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 4: sauce individual that they're building around.

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Speaker 2: James, before you answer that question, Before you answer that question,

567
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Speaker 2: I'm curious since you brought it up, because I didn't

568
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Speaker 2: know about this underground bunker. Yeah, the guy that delivers

569
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Speaker 2: the Chinese food, does he get access down like an

570
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: elevator shaft or is Andy have to go up to?

571
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Speaker 7: No?

572
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 4: No, that's a middleman, a middleman obviously, who knows you

573
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 4: got codes? You got handprints, an intermediary little option scam.

574
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, good optical scan for Chinese food.

575
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: All right.

576
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Speaker 6: I had to take yesterday the elevators weren't working and

577
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 6: I had to take the Taylor Swift path, the underground

578
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 6: path to get to uh, to get to where it

579
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 6: needs to be. So these things are are a big,

580
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 6: big HAPs. I'm not sure if that the delivery guy

581
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 6: and Taylor ever have cross paths down there in the

582
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 6: you know, the secret bunker?

583
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 4: Uh?

584
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: Have you crossed path but with Taylor through all this, James,

585
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: but Taylor.

586
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Speaker 6: Yeah, a number of times I got some free jeans

587
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 6: because of one of my encounters with.

588
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 2: Wow. All right, we're going to get to the X men.

589
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: Let's know, ye, no, tell me about him now, Well,

590
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: you know.

591
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 6: If if you, if you are lucky enough to get

592
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 6: to get a primo spot to do the video of Taylor,

593
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 6: which I've done it by accident a couple of times.

594
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 6: I was trying to get Josh Allen and then all

595
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 6: of a sudden she walked by, and then and then

596
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 6: my video goes viral, and then she was wearing a

597
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 6: pair of jeans, and the company hit me up on

598
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 6: the GRAM and was like, hey, can we use your video?

599
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: We want a profile.

600
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Speaker 6: She's wearing our jeans, And I said, uh, sure, I

601
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 6: guess this is the world I'm not a part of.

602
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: I guess in the video.

603
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 6: And then they said then they said, uh, what what

604
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 6: size are you? We'll send me some cloth. And so

605
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 6: that's that's how this world works, I guess.

606
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, moderately disappointing. So I thought maybe Taylor was the

607
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: source of the jeans, but it was the Okay, it's

608
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 2: still cool though. Sure all right now to Mark's uh.

609
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: Well, no, I mean it's you know, you can go

610
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: in any direction you want at this point.

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00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, now we've we've derailed Listen, I do think

612
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if they have that player, Mark, I

613
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 6: really don't. And when you say like a secret sauce,

614
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 6: it might be like what teams have used against them.

615
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 6: I mean, I thought Joe Brady had a brilliant game

616
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: plan for what he was working with with the Buffalo Bills,

617
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 6: and it was keeping Patrick Mahomes on the offense off

618
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 6: the field. And that might be something that that the

619
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 6: Chiefs are looking at in terms of can we control

620
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 6: this game we're seeing we have seen and this is

621
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Speaker 6: something in this postseason, guys, I've really been curious about.

622
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 6: Like Patrick is obsessed with Tom, like upset break in

623
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 6: terms of learning from him. It's a big reason why

624
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 6: he wanted the backup quarterback that he has right now

625
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 6: in his building because he just got done working with

626
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 6: Tom Brady. It's just he wants to emulate his game

627
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 6: and can he find ways like we've seen Brady do

628
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 6: in the past in the postseason to where if something's

629
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 6: not there, does he just not care about stats, not

630
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 6: care about anything, and lean on something else. And we

631
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 6: are kind of seeing that, Like he's wanted and encouraged

632
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 6: the staff to lean into Pacheco, to lean into this defense,

633
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 6: to play possession game, all of these different things that

634
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 6: we just haven't heard in Kansas City over the years.

635
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 6: They've just been something you just start going, like a

636
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 6: possession game, like no, like run the ball, like that's

637
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 6: not Andy, that's not Patrick. But that is the way

638
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 6: Mahomes has been thinking in terms of other ways to

639
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 6: find ways to win. And I think that Gene we're

640
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 6: all kind of looking at if that's there, because we're

641
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 6: calling him kind of the next Brady. If that's there

642
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 6: on finding other things to lean on to just win

643
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 6: a game. I think they've had to do that at

644
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 6: times this season, and we'll see if they can find

645
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 6: a formula against Baltimo.

646
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Speaker 2: I gotta say I've seen that.

647
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: I know I've seen Clyde Edwards Hilaire taken out of

648
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: mothballs the last couple of weeks and have a little

649
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: more juice that I can remember him seeing he's a

650
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: couple of weeks away from being a free agent four

651
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: years after you know, taking.

652
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: Him in the first round, maybe making blitz.

653
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Speaker 3: Maybe he'll be the surpris or maybe maybe it's on defense.

654
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: I was shocked last week Samari Connor, who I wasn't

655
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: familiar with a fourth round rookie showed up and he

656
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 3: made a lot of plays for that defense as as

657
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: an injury replacement.

658
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: I was like, man, they did it again.

659
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: They found another mid round guy in the secondary who's

660
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: like this is kind of how Lagerius Sneed became a

661
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: guy suddenly in the playoffs as a rookie. He was

662
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: doing things. And then Jamari Connor was awesome just defensively. Uh,

663
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Speaker 3: talking to them this week, like what have they talked

664
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Speaker 3: about being the keys because because one thing that it

665
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: struck me watching the Ravens game, they made pretty huge

666
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: lineup changes that no one really was talking about. Like

667
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: Justice Hill just became their starting way more touches. He's

668
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: a little bit of a different offense than Gus Edwards

669
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: last week.

670
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Speaker 2: And Odell Beckham was benched.

671
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Speaker 3: I know he started the game, but Rashad Bateman kind

672
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: of became their second receiver. Nelson Aguilar is the guy

673
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: in three receiver sets and Beckham only played about twenty

674
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: snaps in that game to forty five for Bateman. I

675
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: think they see Bateman having a little higher upside. So

676
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: the Ravens actually rolled out some different stuff in their

677
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: playoff game what does the Chiefs defense talked about wanting

678
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: to stop.

679
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Speaker 1: Greg?

680
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Speaker 6: I think it really is, how can you confuse Lamar

681
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 6: pre snap? I mean, and that's really going to be Spags' biggest,

682
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 6: biggest goal, And it's because they have and I've talked

683
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 6: to Trent McDuffie about this, who and this is going

684
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 6: to be a big part of this game. I think

685
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 6: him blitzing from that corner spot. When I talk to

686
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 6: people in Buffalo prepping for that game, they were like,

687
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 6: we think he's the best blitzing corner in football. That's

688
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 6: the way the Bills went about it. And him coming

689
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 6: from that inside, from that slot spot, bringing some extra

690
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 6: pressure might be a part of this game plan. But

691
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 6: the point is, talking with Trent, it's like I play

692
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 6: three positions just and Reid plays three positions. Lagarius Sneed

693
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 6: does that, Willie Gay does that. And if we have

694
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Speaker 6: the ability to have these late rotations on Lamar and

695
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 6: we can do it even after the ball is snapped

696
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 6: to where he doesn't know who's playing where and we

697
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 6: can get the ball out of his hands quickly, that

698
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 6: to me seems like they're game plan and there is

699
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Speaker 6: some similarities. I'm not gonna say Josh Allen and Lamar

700
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Speaker 6: Jackson run the football in the same manner. But they

701
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 6: did feel like some of the things they wanted to

702
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 6: do to Josh Allen they can use against Laar, which

703
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 6: is the way you rush with your lanes upfront, and

704
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 6: if you're gonna bring pressure, you're just eliminating some of

705
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: the lanes that he can run through. But if you

706
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Speaker 6: can be disciplined upfront, which they weren't in the first

707
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Speaker 6: half against Allen, and they made some adjustments and were

708
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Speaker 6: in the second half, that you can make sure he

709
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Speaker 6: doesn't get out wide and you kind of shut the

710
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Speaker 6: pocket in from both this I'm in a tiny box,

711
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 6: so you can't see my hands. You gottaqueeze it in

712
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 6: from the s gets there you get a little tiny Yeah,

713
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 6: now we've taken it wide. If you bring it in

714
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 6: from both sides and you don't let them escape kind

715
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Speaker 6: of out wide and you kind of force him up front,

716
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 6: that's kind of the plan they had for Allan. I

717
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 6: would see that being somewhat similar for Lamar as well.

718
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Speaker 2: You saw right through that, James. Actually people don't realize it.

719
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: We have the box get four percent smaller every minute

720
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a weird power play. We do it. Yeah,

721
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: guess yes, you picked up on it. I like that.

722
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Speaker 2: It's like Willie Wonka. Yes, you've said it all, James,

723
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: and I will say one more thing before we say goodbye.

724
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Speaker 2: You've dealt with some weather stuff the last couple of weeks.

725
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: It looks like we got Baltimore. It's gonna be warm,

726
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: unseasonably warm, but rainy, so you're gonna get potentially out

727
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: of the bitter cold, but you're gonna have to get

728
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: that slicker out once more.

729
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 6: I get the slicker out listen. In Buffalo, that was

730
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 6: like all the talk in the postgame locker room.

731
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Speaker 2: It wasn't like we won.

732
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 6: It was like everybody on the Chiefs team was like,

733
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 6: what's the temperature in Baltimore? Like that's all the guys

734
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 6: care about that? Can we get out of the frigid temperatures?

735
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: All right? Buddy, Well, thank you so much for stopping

736
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: by and giving us the info, and hopefully we'll see

737
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: in Vegas in a couple weeks.

738
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Speaker 7: Guys, this is real nice.

739
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: This has been a guest. That hair is going to

740
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Speaker 2: stay perfect. James. I love that man. James Palmer Gold

741
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: see you guys. Very nice love James JP one of

742
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: the good guys.

743
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 4: Quality head of hair. There's no question the hair. That's

744
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: just the way it is.

745
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: You know what, hair respects hair, He's got it. You're

746
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: referring to yourself respecting him. Okay, let's let's make the pick.

747
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: Let's pick this game. Uh, it's it's for me. It's

748
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: the easier of the two games. I think this is

749
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: the Ravens moment. I think I think Baltimore, like I said, uh,

750
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: survived the whatever butterflies there might have been and any

751
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: kind of demons from their early their past with Lamar

752
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: in the playoffs by really kind of burying the Texans

753
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: in the second half. And I just think their depth

754
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: on both sides and the way they swarm on defense

755
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: and Lamar just having the that year is what you

756
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: need a team like this to take down Mahomes in

757
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs. And I think Mahomes will be back on

758
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: this stage, maybe as soon as next January, but I

759
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: think this year he's gonna take a back seat. In fact,

760
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lock up the Baltimore Ravens uh to go

761
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: back to the super Bowl. How about you, guys.

762
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I like the Ravens to win. I

763
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: like the Ravens to win by more than three and

764
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 3: a half. I do think it'll be close, though, I mean,

765
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: can you just imagine the Chiefs getting blown out? I

766
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 3: guess I just can't do it, like because it never happens.

767
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: I know that happened in the Super Bowler Bowl.

768
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: Another defense.

769
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 8: Find other great defense in Tampa Bay that got after

770
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 8: the even like even this regular season where they were

771
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 8: this lesser version and they lost a lot of games,

772
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 8: like all of them were close, except for that one

773
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 8: Broncos game.

774
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Speaker 3: Like, I just think they will be in it. I

775
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: think they will make the Ravens earn it. There is

776
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: something about this Ravens that as the game goes on,

777
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 3: they just get heavier and heavier and stronger. So I

778
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me if the Ravens are loose, like heady

779
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: into the fourth quarter or something like that, that it's

780
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: a tight game, but that the Ravens do pull away.

781
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: Let's go low scoring game twenty four to seventeen.

782
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: I think the Joe Toney injury.

783
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: If you point to that Super Bowl, what was the

784
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 4: like the core reason the Kansas City. Yeah, they were

785
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: just a different team without without in that case that

786
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: we sure tackles, but the two ny injury is huge.

787
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 4: That said, I'm going to go against the grain here

788
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: against you guys. I think the Kansas City Chiefs are

789
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: not the better team holistically, but I think they have

790
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: this something about them where they don't care where they're playing,

791
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 4: they don't care what they're doing. You've got this obsession

792
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 4: with Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes finds a way, whether injured, healthy,

793
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: whatever the weather is, to get it done. And I

794
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: think they nip the Ravens twenty seven twenty four.

795
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, keep picking against the Ravens. You might be

796
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: right one day.

797
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say, if you're listening to this

798
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: and I picked your team to win, you are doomed.

799
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Don't even witness the game.

800
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: I like it though it's a three and a half way.

801
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: I don't like it when we're on the same side.

802
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just did. I want to go get it.

803
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: What camps their respect? I like Baltimore thirty one twenty

804
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 2: That's where I'll go with Ravens.

805
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 5: By the way, the money line there is minus one two.

806
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna take a break and when we

807
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: get back. We're going to talk about the other big

808
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: game this weekend and hit some big news and the

809
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: coaching carousel rankings. All right, we'll be right back, all right,

810
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: welcome back. Who it is Championships Sunday this weekend and

811
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: we are excited to talk these two big games. Mark

812
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: update on the de Giorno front anything? And have you

813
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: heard from the ever since we talked about them again

814
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: on the last show the Pizza Giant. Did they connect

815
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: with you? No?

816
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: Radio silence? I think it's you know, a bit of

817
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: a psychological tug of war. Accept that, and so my

818
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: move is to stay in, you know, silent and wait

819
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 4: and see what they do.

820
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: But you did hear from a shadowy league figure.

821
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: As I understand, I was told that my attempt to

822
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: complain about not receiving product or literally just side money

823
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: from the company was out of place because per our

824
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 4: contract us reading these ads.

825
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: There's literally how we get paid. That's what I guess.

826
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: I was out of place, and I apologize, not only

827
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: but to okay that individual.

828
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, not to You're not wrong, you know why?

829
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: Because yes, the money is one thing, but how about

830
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: a couple of thes in here? I don't think that

831
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: would be so hard A couple. Uh what do they call?

832
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: And they what are this? What's their specialty? Mark? What?

833
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: I know they have some Well, they have a wide

834
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: range of specialties. Just like I'm just asking for one

835
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 2: Toyota grand Highlander. Like I'm not asking for like ten

836
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: or or a million dollars, not a sack of money. Right,

837
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 2: you could argue my request is even lesser. One highlander. Right,

838
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: that's it anyway, It is time now for the NFC

839
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: Game of the Week, presented by Draft Kings. And yes

840
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: there's only one game to choose, and it is a

841
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: humding on. It's the Detroit Lions. And speaking of the

842
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, Michigan native Cynthia Freeland will be in in

843
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: just a little bit to break down the game and

844
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: where she's at headspace wise going into this. They head

845
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: now the Lions to Santa Clara. They'll beg bell bottom

846
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: to get the forty nine ers. Great. The spread also

847
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: stayed right where it was when we talked about it

848
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: last or earlier this week. It's the Niners getting seven

849
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: the money line minus three forty. So the betting public

850
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 2: seems to feel strongly that the Niners as the number

851
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 2: one seed. We'll carry on here and beat the Lions.

852
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. I like this Lions, the juice

853
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 2: around this team. I have to say, if you go back,

854
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: not even to Week one when they beat the defending

855
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: champion Chiefs, if you go back, greg Ee, to Week

856
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: eighteen last year when they beat the Packers and Aaron

857
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: Rodgers and ended their season, that to me was the beginning,

858
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: the true beginning of this kind of rock ride that

859
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: the Lions are on now. And they survived a long season,

860
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: they navigated their way through the playoffs with two electric

861
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: home games, and now I just have a hard time

862
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: seeing as much as I think San Francisco is the

863
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: better team, Detroit going down easy at this point, not

864
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: with this coach and not with what we've learned about

865
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: this organization over the last year and a half.

866
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: Me and I hope you're right, because it'd be one

867
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 3: of the great football stories we've had since we started.

868
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,240
Speaker 2: Imagine the Lions in the super Bowl in two weeks.

869
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: What a five that would be.

870
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: And it wouldn't just be Hayd Detroit's back. That would

871
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: be a great story. Anyways, it's this particular team and

872
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: the way they do it, And I just think they

873
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 3: have to attack San Francisco when the Lions have the ball,

874
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: like that's the mismatch. They have to be special. Jared

875
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: Goff made a lot of great throws last week, like

876
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 3: he has to be even greater. They won up front

877
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: last week. I thought the Packers won up front last week.

878
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to do that again. They're gonna have

879
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: to play their best offensive game and just hope that

880
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: the defense can make a few plays. But this is

881
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: ultimately an offensive team. That's how they've gotten this far.

882
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: That's how they're going to get further. And I think

883
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: they're gonna look at the edges of San Francisco because

884
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: when you watched that game from a week ago Packers

885
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: against the forty nine Ers, the Packers threw a lot

886
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: of different run schemes at them, kind of like the

887
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: Rams do as well, and they mostly worked and they

888
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: got a little away from it, and the forty nine

889
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: Ers made some adjustments late in the game, but man,

890
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: when they threw the ball to the outside on those

891
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: pitches to Aaron Jones or they had the swings like

892
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: they won basically every single time. A lot of it

893
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 3: was to chase Young's side of the field. It was

894
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: a way to kind of stay away from all that

895
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: power in the middle of the forty nine ers. And

896
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: I think the Lions are very well built to do that.

897
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: You have Panee Sewell, who's an All Pro right tackle.

898
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 3: You have Taylor Deck who's a great left tackle. They're

899
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: very coordinated in terms of their offensive line. They will

900
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: be without Jonah Jackson, which is a huge loss for them.

901
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: Their their replacement last week o Ska really struggled, so

902
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: that that's a big loss. But can they keep attacking,

903
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: especially the run game on the outside and lean into

904
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: where their best players are?

905
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 5: And to me, that's Sewell and that's Gibbs. Can that

906
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 5: combo just come at you over and over again.

907
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 4: Yes, like they were built when they you know, this

908
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 4: whole operation began. The priority was put on offensive line,

909
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 4: and we're gonna win in a way that you.

910
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: Know matches what Detroit's about.

911
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 4: Jackson out is a big deal, Frank Ragnow is your

912
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: center is dealing with an ankle injury, a toe injury,

913
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: a knee injury, and a back injury. So even if

914
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: he somehow the Crans get in there, he finished the

915
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: game though, so he probably, but that I mean, these

916
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: guys at this point you're dealing with like there's no

917
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 4: part of your body that's not hurting. But I love

918
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 4: what they did last week. And I know it was

919
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: against the Bucks defense. It's a different situation against the Niners.

920
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 4: But they made a statement with a fourteen play seventy

921
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: five yard touchdown drive.

922
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: They had two other ten play touchdown drives.

923
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: They had another scoring drive that was sixty five plus

924
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 4: yards long marches keeping the ball out of the hands

925
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 4: of the Niners. And I think they can win by

926
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 4: just simply doing and being who they.

927
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: Are, like the way that they were built. Is a

928
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: good opponent for the Niners.

929
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 4: And to me this a little bit, this game is

930
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: one where unlike the one we just talked about, it

931
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: moves beyond for me, like next gen stats and all

932
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 4: the numbers and all the compiled figures and facts like

933
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions just feel like this kind of sports

934
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 4: team that you look back on, like baseball teams from

935
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 4: certain teams from the seventies and eighties that captured the city.

936
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: We've seen that in football, We've seen it in every sport,

937
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: and not to be general about it or you know,

938
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: Pine the Sky, but the Lions, to me, it's like

939
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: I kind of love the fact that Jared Goff is

940
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: just from California, the idea that you're gonna go to

941
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 4: the West Coast and be awed by the fact that

942
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: you're playing at a different time in a in a

943
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 4: visiting stadium, and I don't think any of them there.

944
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: He did californ game, like literally it is his home.

945
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 4: And it's like something about this Lions team feels like

946
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: a team of destiny to me, and I I think

947
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 4: that the way that we look at the Bills is

948
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: the way I look at Shanahan and the Niners just

949
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: a little bit.

950
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 2: There.

951
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 4: There's every reason to think that they're the better team

952
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 4: in multiple levels, but like there is pressure on the

953
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: Niners because their postseason journey has been rough and tumble.

954
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 4: Shanahan has this deal, he's he's seven and three in

955
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: the playoffs, I believe with the Niners, but they have

956
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 4: lost in big moments and it's like there's just I

957
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: think that I could see their butts getting tight if

958
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: the Lions hanging around there in that third quarter, early

959
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 4: fourth quarter, I think I.

960
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: Like it, Like your passion, Mark, you think about the

961
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: game too, because the Lions are this levable underdog within

962
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: the context of this game right now, but it's the

963
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: Niners are weird in the sense that they are this

964
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: goliath right but their quarterback is I don't know if

965
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: you heard this, mister irrelevant, Like, I think we're so

966
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: used to it now that we're sleeping on The guy

967
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: that was the last pick in the draft last year

968
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: could be going to the super Bowl if he if

969
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 2: his team has has their way on Sunday against the

970
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: first overall pick. Well, yeah, there's that angle of it too,

971
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: And it's just like, and I'm not going to be

972
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: labor it because I hit it pretty hard last Sunday

973
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: and during the week, But it is Perdy, that's the question.

974
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't feel like the rest

975
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 2: of the San Francisco operation is going to crack under

976
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: the pressure. And I'm not even necessarily saying it's it's

977
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: pressure with Purdy, but it's just has any doubt crept

978
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: into his mind. It's quarterbacking, and really any sport, especially

979
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: in quarterbacking, it's so much mental and his confidence allowed

980
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: him Greg to soar and become a true MVP candidate

981
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: this year. But what happened on Christmas night in Baltimore,

982
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: what happened in last week's game for three and a

983
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 2: half quarters? What headspace is the QBN going into this game?

984
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 2: Because now he's playing to go to the damn Super Bowl.

985
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: It's a massive stage for a guy that was never

986
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 2: a pristine prospect, has had his issues in recent weeks.

987
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 2: It's a huge, huge responsibility to take a team all

988
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: the way to the Bowl.

989
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, last week was concerning because he wasn't seeing the

990
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: field well. To me, he's pretty consistent in who he is.

991
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 3: He's aggressive, he's not a game manager. He's gonna go

992
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 3: for it, and he did last week. Like rewatching it,

993
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: it wasn't quite as bad as I remembered, but it

994
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: was particularly bad in the in the three drives before

995
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: the game winning drive. And there's another world. The Packers

996
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: had the ball three times through No you know, party

997
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: wouldn't have done anything different. The Packers had the ball

998
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: two or three times where they could have put the

999
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 3: game way, and they just didn't. They kept giving them chances,

1000
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: and then perty did step up. And I do think

1001
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 3: that's that should you know mentally, that will help. And

1002
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 3: then and then I think it's the rain. The rain

1003
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 3: was a factor too, although it was also his decision making,

1004
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: so you can't just put it on his throne. But look,

1005
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: he made the right reads in that final matchup. And

1006
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: as much as you don't think of the Packers as

1007
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 3: a good defense, maybe that's even a better matchup because

1008
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: one thing that I think has been pointed out when

1009
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: Trent Williams was out, and then I was reminded of

1010
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: it again last week. It's like this offensive line is

1011
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: really not that great like the Packers. I thought kind

1012
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 3: of one up front on both sides of the ball,

1013
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: which was really surprising. They have, but they have, but

1014
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 3: it kind of makes sense because they have talented players

1015
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: up front and they just won their matchups. They won

1016
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: it in the run game and made life hard for

1017
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey made some plays, but in terms of

1018
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: the yards before contact it was extremely low. They weren't

1019
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: getting much push and they were putting a lot of

1020
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: pressure on Party and that's what you have to do.

1021
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 3: Pretty Fritz is out a little like most quarterbacks. I

1022
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 3: know his numbers are good against pressure, but this was

1023
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: a different sort last week, and I just don't see

1024
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: the Lions doing that because they're one of the worst

1025
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: just teams in terms of just front four getting pressure.

1026
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: Hutchinson is that dude, But otherwise they have to send

1027
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: a lot of pressure. So it's to me it's gonna

1028
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: be a very boomer bust defensive approach where they throw

1029
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 3: a lot of blitz.

1030
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 5: Is they throw a lot at them, They're willing to

1031
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 5: give up some big plays.

1032
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 3: They hope to make some big plays and enforce some

1033
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 3: turnovers and hopefully that'll work. And you get Burt if

1034
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 3: Debo's in the game, and maybe you don't get if

1035
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: Debo's not in the game, Well that's.

1036
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 4: A huge So that's so big. And what you know,

1037
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: like how healthy will Deebo Samuel be? That is we've

1038
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: they've been so different. I think last week obviously we

1039
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: know by now the Deebo Samuel was baked heavily into

1040
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: the game plan. That affected what happened against the Packers

1041
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: because they had to shift and use different players. If

1042
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: I'm the Lions, though, Aiden Hutchinson is the one guy

1043
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 4: getting sacks, the one guy really making a difference. You

1044
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 4: don't want to just station them against Trent Williams snap

1045
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: after snap, I tried to find a way to move

1046
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 4: them around. But this Lions team, with all their ups

1047
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 4: and downs on defense, has been good against the run though,

1048
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: the number two team against the run. They've held fourteen

1049
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 4: to nineteen opponents to under one hundred yards on the ground.

1050
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 4: They've gone twelve and two in those games. So if

1051
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 4: you can find a way to suppress, to nullify Christian

1052
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: McCaffrey to some extent, and you force brock Perty into

1053
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 4: having to make big throws. Right now, the forecast, I

1054
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 4: kind of think this matters for party just because of

1055
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 4: what we've seen this season. It is suggesting light rain.

1056
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 4: That's what they said a week ago too. But like then,

1057
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: you know you're dealing with an incredible nature is just

1058
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: erupting on you.

1059
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: We'll see, maybe it's sunny. We don't have the latest update.

1060
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: What's the weather on the weather corner? Yeah, love this

1061
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: weather corner. Maybe well, we're running out of time, weather,

1062
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: give us a little drop for weather corner in post

1063
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: Eric the producer. Right now looks like seventy three seventy

1064
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 2: three am clouds pm sun, only a six percent chance

1065
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: of precipitation. So the small brock hands probably not going

1066
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: to be an issue. That sounds more like borrow. It's

1067
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: some change.

1068
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: Goff has sort of famously struggled in the rain and

1069
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: in inclement weather.

1070
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: That's true too.

1071
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 3: Another small hands guy. I mean, this is this is ridiculous.

1072
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 3: That's calling him small hands guy. In the scheme of things,

1073
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: it's compared to like the average, it's all relative.

1074
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: It is all relative. Speaking of Jared Goff, we had.

1075
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: This is again it's being positioned as David versus Goliath

1076
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: on some level, but it's not quite that. The Lions

1077
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: have a lot of big time players. Lines had a

1078
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: huge year. They're in the NFC title game for a reason.

1079
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: This is a fun little back and forth between golf

1080
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: and a reporter. I think something wires get crossed a

1081
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: little bit here. This was enjoyable.

1082
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 4: Guy's got a lot of got a lot of really

1083
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 4: good players, obviously.

1084
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 7: Maybe oh thank you, I said thank you.

1085
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: Maybe that you though as the superstars, like.

1086
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 7: All right, never mind, I mean guys like same Brown

1087
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 7: was first team All Pro.

1088
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: So right, so.

1089
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 7: Sorry, continue, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

1090
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: That's a great way to kind of have some fun. Also,

1091
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 2: by the way, show that you're loose like there's Jared.

1092
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 2: He's in a different chair of he's ready, he is

1093
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: ready for this game, but also pointing out, yeah, stop

1094
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 2: looking at us like we can't match up on any

1095
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: level to the mighty San Francisco team. We got studs

1096
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: on this team, including a first team All Pro at

1097
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: our offensive line at number one wide receiver. We're ready.

1098
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 3: You're wrong, right, And I think games i've been I

1099
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 3: think he's the second best running back in the league

1100
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: right now, I think And it wasn't even referring to

1101
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 3: him like so that's I would get Gibbs as a monster.

1102
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: Sewell is right there with Trent Williams as like the

1103
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: best tackles in the NFL. Sam Laporta was second team

1104
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: All Pro as a freaking rookie.

1105
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 5: It was a really well lang Well made point.

1106
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 3: I think by golf, because they are extremely talented, they're

1107
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 3: cohesaid that they've been together well and you mentioned it's

1108
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: a different golf. You're right, But he's also different on

1109
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: the field, like he was different in in LA. I

1110
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: don't think it like they should feel bad about getting

1111
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: rid of Jared Goff, obviously because of the results, but

1112
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: also because of the way he's playing. But the way

1113
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: he's playing now, and you give credit to Ben Johnson,

1114
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: but you mostly give credit to Jared Goff. He I

1115
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: think he makes his reads faster. I think gets to

1116
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: his second and third read faster. I think he buys

1117
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 3: time just a little bit better. He's obviously not going

1118
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: to be Lamar Jackson, but he moves a little better

1119
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 3: in the pocket. There were a couple throws last week

1120
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 3: where he's back pedaling.

1121
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 6: Uh.

1122
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 3: They're obviously better against the blitz. That's coaching and that's

1123
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: Jared Goff. But they're great against the blitz that used

1124
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: to be as bad thing. And there's more outside throws.

1125
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 3: Think of some of his most impressive throws last week.

1126
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 3: One of them was like deep into the outside to Reynolds,

1127
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 3: another one to Saint Brown, Like that was not something

1128
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 3: you saw Jared Goff doing. So he is a legitimately

1129
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: better quarterback. He is a top ten quarterback, eight quarterback,

1130
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 3: whatever you wanna be. Then we when we last saw

1131
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 3: him eight right now in many ways, and he has

1132
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: been for last year.

1133
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: I buzzed up against that. I would have to kind

1134
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: of go through it, but certainly on the fringe of

1135
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: the top ten, which is again looking where he was

1136
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 2: when they Los Angeles dumped him to where he is now.

1137
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: I want to talk to someone who knows all about

1138
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 2: this team. Oh yeah, she knows everything. Yeah, I mean,

1139
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: but she is a Michigan native who has a chance

1140
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: to do something that's never happened in her lifetime. I mean,

1141
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: this person could be one hundred and forty four years

1142
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: old and it would have never happened in their lifetime

1143
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: because the lines have never been to the super Bowl.

1144
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: But now in her Lions T shirt, Cynthia Freeland is

1145
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 2: ready for the game of her life as a fan. Cindy,

1146
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 2: welcome back to around the NFL.

1147
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 9: Well, let's just hope I don't get the last time.

1148
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,959
Speaker 9: I don't I don't make any headlines like the last time.

1149
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 2: Oh well, don't worry about that. I believe that was

1150
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: exercise from the show. How are you?

1151
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 9: I'm great. I just got back from Detroit. It was

1152
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 9: really special.

1153
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: We had Colleen on the show on Wednesday, and she

1154
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: obviously spent that game with you and said it was

1155
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 2: a very special experience to be there with someone that

1156
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: was It meant that much to them the game, it

1157
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 2: meant so much to me. Why did it mean so

1158
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: much to you as a Michigan native.

1159
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 9: Well number one, I'm the daughter of a General Motors

1160
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 9: employee for his entire career, and in no way, like

1161
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 9: the whole thing just got blown to shreds. It wasn't great.

1162
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 9: It was sad, and you know, especially my dad has

1163
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 9: a lot of pride, you know, this GM American muscle

1164
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 9: all that, and to see it take this big hit

1165
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 9: felt so like very parallel to the Lions having recently

1166
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 9: come off an OH to sixteen season. So it was

1167
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 9: kind of this like amazing parallel between this like city

1168
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 9: and like things were just bad, like it was not

1169
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 9: good for a while, and now to see like this

1170
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 9: turnaround and to have some hope hope is a terrible

1171
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 9: investment thesis, but it's pretty fun.

1172
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: Very Cynthia there, Wow, you were getting.

1173
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 5: So much, but you had it. You had it.

1174
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 3: You had that moment in Detroit, Like, now does it

1175
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: feel like it's a little no house money or now

1176
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 3: this is the biggest game of your your fan life.

1177
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 9: It feels a little like kind of as it's kind

1178
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 9: of both because I wasn't expecting to win two home games,

1179
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 9: to have two home games, let alone to win two

1180
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 9: home games but it's it feels like there's this opportunity

1181
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 9: now and it's like we're please, like Jordan Levin is

1182
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 9: a great yet like wait till because this division is

1183
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 9: gonna get better, like like let's just like like capitalize

1184
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 9: on the moment. So it does feel special. I was

1185
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 9: actually talking to some of my friends on the team

1186
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 9: that are in like the operations part, and you know,

1187
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 9: they're they didn't even already have in place, like what

1188
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 9: would happen if they went right? Like so this week

1189
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 9: they had to go, like the team had to like

1190
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 9: go to Detroit, go to Las Vegas and like pick

1191
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 9: the hotel, Like.

1192
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: Don't even have that. Wow, that's wild.

1193
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 9: But a lot, I mean, to be fair, a lot

1194
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 9: of teams, it's not that's not a normal thing. But

1195
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 9: like you know, I'm sure Andy Reid has like well let.

1196
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: Me just com through.

1197
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 9: That's okay, but like you know, some some people don't

1198
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 9: have that luxury.

1199
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 4: I want to ask you somebody because like my first

1200
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 4: growing up on the East Coast, my first kind of

1201
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 4: concept of Michigan and Detroit was that Michael Moore documentary Roger,

1202
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 4: which you said, your dad is attached to GM and

1203
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 4: it painted a very bleak picture of what was happening

1204
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: to that part of the country, and it always kind

1205
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: of colored my thought of what the Lions were and

1206
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 4: their fans, and like, this is happening now and you're

1207
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 4: you know, you're drenched in analytics and like it's how

1208
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 4: you like, it's your point of view through football. But

1209
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: then something about this Lions team we just talked about it.

1210
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 4: It's like there's this inevitable kind of energy around them

1211
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: and belief in themselves, and like you've got your your

1212
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: models and how you like would break down a game,

1213
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 4: but like, how do you factor in what is happening

1214
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 4: with the Lions from like a human energy front into

1215
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 4: how you analyze football.

1216
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 9: Well, there's a couple of things. Thank god, I do

1217
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 9: all of my coding blind, Like I don't know which.

1218
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 9: I mean, I can probably guess if I were to

1219
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 9: look into it, but I do it all blind because

1220
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 9: that's the only way you can do it. You have

1221
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 9: to just you name it weird things that mean nothing

1222
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 9: to you. So then that pops out and you're like,

1223
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 9: darn it, it's the Niners because they are in terms

1224
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 9: of the analytics, they are absolutely the stronger team. They

1225
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 9: should be favored, and they're they're all the things that

1226
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 9: are in there, but you look at the things that

1227
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 9: are recent trends and the fact that the Lions are

1228
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 9: able to buck the things that have been wrong for them. So,

1229
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 9: for example, this last game, instead of giving up really

1230
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 9: deep plays, actually we're pretty vulnerable to the intermediate level

1231
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 9: of the middle of their defense. So it's not to

1232
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 9: say that it's better, it's just different. And that was

1233
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 9: able to give them just enough of a push to

1234
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 9: go up ahead of the Bucks and stay there, which

1235
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 9: was kind of cool to see them addressing some of

1236
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 9: their issues. So the math does support that they're addressing

1237
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 9: some of their issues. It's it's this game is not

1238
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 9: to what my math says. It's closer than seven points,

1239
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 9: but it's not a game. It's not I can't factor

1240
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 9: in grit. I mean I literally was the most I

1241
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 9: was like the most inappropriate person. I'm fine with this.

1242
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 9: I'm happy to get in trouble for it because I

1243
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 9: stand by at the after the game was over, I

1244
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 9: went down. I just had to see a Dan Campbell

1245
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 9: presser in person, and I'm like, in a Lion shirt.

1246
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 9: I don't think you're all these like really like very

1247
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 9: like serious, really good journalists, like people. Mitch album was there,

1248
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 9: and I'm like sitting here like and I'm like, does

1249
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 9: anyone want to take a shot with me? Like like

1250
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 9: I'm like, I don't care, Like this is cool, like

1251
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 9: it's positive, it's you know, like let's just have a

1252
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 9: little fun in this room for until he walks in.

1253
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: So what was the album? Book? People you talk to in.

1254
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 9: These days with moriar?

1255
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: Multiple books?

1256
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I like the.

1257
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 9: World on him. I was like, I'm so happy to

1258
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 9: meet you. I'm sorry, but I want to take shots

1259
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 9: with somebody. I'm like, I can't find my friends yet.

1260
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 9: So he was like, that's great. We should all be

1261
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 9: so happy because they were all trying to be serious.

1262
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 9: You know, I wasn't gonna ask any questions. I just

1263
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 9: wanted to see Dan Campbell's energy album. Sure, yeah, no, No,

1264
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 9: he was great. He was great. They were all great

1265
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 9: to me. No one was mad at me for saying that.

1266
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 9: But it probably just not what you're supposed to do in.

1267
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: That Mitch actually texted me is like Cynthia can comport herself.

1268
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 9: With that girl. So lack of professionalism right there.

1269
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: So your your study, your models say this is a

1270
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: close game, but but everything as much as you don't

1271
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: want it to be. The analytics tells that the Niners

1272
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: are the team that escapes and gets to Vegas.

1273
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not happy about it.

1274
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 5: Like how much is the last four weeks?

1275
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 3: Because that's where I don't think it's as unique as

1276
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: it feels that, like the Chiefs often suddenly found itself,

1277
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 3: or that the Packers suddenly to me looked like they

1278
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: were they had a chance to win the Super Bowls.

1279
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 5: It feels crazy, but they could have.

1280
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: Won that game.

1281
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: They won the next game, And so how much is it?

1282
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: Like you you take all the numbers from the season,

1283
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: but then you just look at like the last three

1284
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: week because that is how sometimes Super Bowls are decided.

1285
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 9: So my models weight recency a little bit more so

1286
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 9: because all of the coaches tend to watch about four

1287
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 9: weeks of film heading into games, I overweight the most

1288
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 9: recent four weeks of data just a little bit, so

1289
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 9: they count as extra if you will, right, So you're

1290
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 9: looking at that My bigger problem in this matchup, there's

1291
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 9: two things that really stand out are the biggest things

1292
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 9: that the lines have to overcome. One, their O line

1293
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 9: is banged up, there's no two ways about it. They're

1294
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 9: gonna have a backup of the guard position. Yikes, yikes.

1295
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 9: And Frank Gragnew is not one hundred percent. He seems

1296
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 9: to be doing better, and he's an awesome.

1297
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: Guy, like against Armstead who's healthy. Finally, Hargrave ran Law

1298
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 3: played well last week against their strength.

1299
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 9: That's a problem. The other problem is Jared Goff is

1300
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 9: awesome at throwing in breaking routes.

1301
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: Right.

1302
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 9: We saw Jordan Love show us kind of the formula

1303
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 9: to upset the Niners, which is outside of the numbers passes.

1304
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 9: That is not what this Lion's team. Doesn't mean they

1305
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 9: can't do it. It's just saying it's a lower probability

1306
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 9: because we haven't seen them do it as frequently, not

1307
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 9: to say they can't, just to say it's harder to

1308
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 9: imagine that happening. And then, lastly, the best area of

1309
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 9: the defense in the back is the middle third of

1310
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 9: the back, which is right where those inbreakers go. So

1311
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 9: it's just unfortunate that those things again, they could figure

1312
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 9: things out. Ben Johnson, those teams that have their grubby

1313
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 9: paws all over him.

1314
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: Last game, I do love that angle like that to

1315
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: me is one of the most intriguing things, like Ben

1316
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 3: Johnson versus Kyle Shanahan. If you were going to power

1317
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 3: rank play callers in the NFL right now, certainly McVeigh

1318
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 3: and McDaniel would be in that mix. But this might

1319
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 3: be the top two battle of the play callers against

1320
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 3: I think could be vulnerable defenses. I know the forty

1321
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 3: nine ers have a lot of stars, but to me,

1322
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: everything you're saying about like the Lions defens, I hear that,

1323
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: and it is like, I'm just like, just outscore them,

1324
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: just win.

1325
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 5: Thirty three to thirty could be the rout I.

1326
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 9: Actually do as a So I'm taking my analytics hat

1327
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 9: off here for a second and putting my fan hat on.

1328
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 9: And I'm actually really glad it's not the Packers, to

1329
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 9: be fair, because that Packer team coming into Detroit on Thanksgiving,

1330
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 9: that just I understand. You know, I know you your

1331
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,479
Speaker 9: your gripes with the defensive coordator. We got it, Greg,

1332
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 9: like but but you know, like the.

1333
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: The only show where my.

1334
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 3: Get very annoyed with me no check out debut on Friday.

1335
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 9: But but the truth is, there's something about teams that

1336
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 9: know each other and it just makes it closer, right

1337
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 9: like your Ravens. Think about it. For the Ravens, you

1338
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 9: felt like maybe the Browns had a better chance of

1339
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 9: knocking them off than perhaps another opponent would. Right, So

1340
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 9: because of that knowledge of each other, it just and

1341
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 9: and the poetry of the stupid Packers being alliance would

1342
01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 9: have been terrible.

1343
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: You have to worry about it. You're in the on that.

1344
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: How do you factor in?

1345
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: Because like I think one thing I love and how

1346
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,919
Speaker 4: you could make the Niners in a close game late

1347
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: when they're thinking about their playoff history, uh, you know,

1348
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 4: concerned about themselves, like the Dan Campbell aggressive nature of

1349
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 4: all things, Like I love that?

1350
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: Do you how do you fact I want to come.

1351
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:17,959
Speaker 2: I've always said I want.

1352
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: To come see whatever is happening like this, you know

1353
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 4: motherboard that.

1354
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 5: I just want to know what it looks like.

1355
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 4: Like how do you like enter Dan Campbell's aggressiveness into

1356
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 4: your computer system?

1357
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 9: Just like that?

1358
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: Actually, don't go behind the curtain.

1359
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 9: No, No, you can come and you till you want.

1360
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 9: You just have to come to my house because I

1361
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 9: can't lift all this stuff and bring it elsewhere.

1362
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: The incredible amount of their you've.

1363
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 9: Moved out of the boudoir, you know, it's not the

1364
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 9: the the in fact, the the like the main like

1365
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 9: house of the computer still in the boudoir, but the

1366
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 9: screens are not.

1367
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 2: It's multiple rooms now. It's going theology's turning into a

1368
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 2: robit fortress now, and I'm.

1369
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 9: Really just trying to get it as close to the

1370
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 9: router as possible and then he can plug it. It's

1371
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 9: really not that way. Actually, as we speak, it's cleaning

1372
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 9: my house. That's why I had to leave it, and

1373
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 9: that's why I came into the office exactly.

1374
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 2: It's just it's basically the entire thing is just a ruma.

1375
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 9: The good news about Dan Campbell is that he has

1376
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 9: a regular cadence to his aggressive play collar nature, which

1377
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 9: means it's not to say we can accurately predict it,

1378
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 9: but it's probably likely that they have plays on the

1379
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 9: play sheet that there are specifically for certain situations. So

1380
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 9: it's less about like he's not like we think of

1381
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 9: it as this gamble, like he's rolling it. I don't

1382
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 9: really think he's rolling the dice as much as it seems.

1383
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 9: I think they're planning this ahead of time, they're practicing it,

1384
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 9: they have.

1385
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 4: Well, they're telling the refs ahead of time, and the

1386
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 4: refs are not comprehending.

1387
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: Apparently, I don't want.

1388
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 9: To talk about that. But it didn't matter, it did

1389
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 9: It ended up not matter.

1390
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: Justice was served in the end, right, baldell. I let's

1391
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 2: let's pick the game, and Cynthia, I'm gonna save you

1392
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: for last, even though I know you now have to

1393
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: go potentially against the room, but which we shouldn't do. Yeah,

1394
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: but it's compelling. It's a tough setch for you. Mark

1395
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: get us going.

1396
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 4: I why I've kept asking these questions about the human conditions,

1397
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: condition versus technology, Like I have long had a Shanahan,

1398
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 4: you know, fascination, and I can't help but root for

1399
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 4: the Niners in many situations. But in this situation, not

1400
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 4: only am I picking the Lions to win in overtime

1401
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 4: thirty four to thirty one, but.

1402
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm locking them up. You take it to the bank,

1403
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: and my lock.

1404
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 4: Record tells you that's that's uh. There's a lot of

1405
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 4: viability to that. I'm indued me in last place.

1406
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 2: If this doesn't go your way, you're flirting with going

1407
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: winless in the playoffs, So we you're due. I'll put

1408
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 2: it that way.

1409
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 4: I have chosen from what happens right in here in

1410
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 4: the center of the world, like over and over and

1411
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 4: serve you.

1412
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 3: But it's gonna serve me this time. I know this

1413
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 3: is one of these days, though, one of these days.

1414
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: I do think there is a path here. I think

1415
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 3: James Jamison Williams has been getting better every week. Maybe

1416
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: he gets some big bus like that play where Laporta

1417
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 3: is on the outside and a mon Ras on the inside.

1418
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: Laporte is a weak, healthier I feel like it works

1419
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 3: every single time, where laport is essentially like they know

1420
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 3: what's coming, the defenses know what coming, they can't stop it,

1421
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: and that they could keep up. And seven points even

1422
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 3: does feel like a little too much. But I'm going

1423
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 3: head over heart. It's a rare case where I'm rooting

1424
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: hard against the Lions, but I am locking up the

1425
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 3: forty nine ers because I believe that's what's gonna happen.

1426
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 2: Interesting, you're rooting for the Lions. Absolutely, you're locking the Niners.

1427
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm rooting against my own rooting interest right now.

1428
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 5: I do believe they're the safest pick of the weekend.

1429
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: And I'll say the same thing. I want the Lions

1430
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: to win, thank you. I want people like Cynthia. I

1431
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 2: want Cynthia I appreciate, and I want Parry Sanders to

1432
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: be happy. And I want Marshall Mathers to be happy.

1433
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: I want Kirk Gibson to be happy, Alan Trammel, Bu Whittaker.

1434
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: I want everyone connected to Michigan sports to be happy.

1435
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 4: Leiah Coca Leya Coca. Isn't that Sue's best friend? I

1436
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 4: don't know who he's best friends with anyway. But however,

1437
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 4: what about Big Sean, Big Sean?

1438
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't need it, Big Sean, I can't give

1439
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: him the love that he wants.

1440
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 5: Big Sean's been on Dan's radar that I got a.

1441
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 2: Big issue with Big Sean standing on the shoulder of

1442
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: giants put it that way. But that's a whole other conversation.

1443
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: It is.

1444
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 9: What about Bob Seeger love seg Okay, yes, just make

1445
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 9: sure against the wind YEP that's what we're gonna have

1446
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 9: to do.

1447
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: What a Heartland rocker that Sieger is? That said I'm

1448
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 2: gonna pick the Niners. And as much as I do

1449
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 2: have reservations about Purdy, I'm nervous about this game. I

1450
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: can't go off on Purdy and then not have the

1451
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 2: same reservations about GoF who can get cooked up by

1452
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 2: a defense and start making some funky decisions himself. And

1453
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: because of that, I do think San Francisco is just

1454
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: the better team. I don't know if they cover, but

1455
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: I think they win. Let's go, Let's go twenty seven

1456
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: to twenty. You know, Campbell do some crazy shenanigans with

1457
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 2: a two point conversions, so we'll make the score weird.

1458
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: Twenty seven to twenty five. Niners to the Bowl.

1459
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, So while I told you that, look,

1460
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 9: any good analytics professional will tell you the math gives

1461
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 9: a five point win to the Niners. However, sometimes, much

1462
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 9: like the Eagles at the end of the Super Bowl,

1463
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 9: you have to take the low probability play. And there

1464
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 9: is no way on God's green Earth that I am

1465
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 9: going to have any audio or video of me ever

1466
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 9: not picking my lines in this situation. God knows that

1467
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 9: we won't be back here very It's not it's not

1468
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 9: a sure thing.

1469
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: This is your time, this is your moment.

1470
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 9: Sypia upset Lions twenty seven twenty six.

1471
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: Love it. You're gonna go. You're gonna get home, and

1472
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: all your doors, the locks will be changed. The lights

1473
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: don't work.

1474
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 3: I feel like this is like the script of a

1475
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: romantic comedy or something. At the very end, she after years,

1476
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: she finally goes against the model. Right as she's like

1477
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: a matrimony. She found her guy. It also is coming

1478
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 3: for together.

1479
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 9: Hey, listen, you want to know the weird connections here?

1480
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 9: Are you ready?

1481
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: Okay?

1482
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 9: Number one, I stayed in the hotel at the Renaissance Center,

1483
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 9: which is where my dad worked. That's where GM's headquartered,

1484
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 9: right on Center this week. Number two, my first marathon

1485
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 9: was in Detroit. You know who was in town that weekend,

1486
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 9: The Tampa Bay Bucks. I ate a sausage with tailgaters

1487
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 9: before the Bucks game after my marathon. That was my

1488
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 9: very first marathon.

1489
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: Number two.

1490
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 9: Number three, I get my dog Gordy. How Gordy introduces

1491
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 9: me to my fiance. Gordy did so. It's all about

1492
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,600
Speaker 9: Detroit sports. That's really all that matters.

1493
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: I love it.

1494
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 9: I've been to that. I went to that two thousand

1495
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 9: and four when the the upstart, the Pistons who didn't

1496
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 9: have like one star, they had like a few Rip

1497
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 9: Hamilton with the with the thing on his face, you know,

1498
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 9: the whole to and you know who they beat They

1499
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 9: beat the Lake Show exactly, and I was there. So

1500
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 9: sometimes Michigan gets the best of California.

1501
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the flashy playboys from California will tick a dirt nap. Yeah,

1502
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: you know, I'm from a coal town.

1503
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 9: I oh, you'll get there next. What I can't imagine

1504
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 9: what's going to happen when the Jets are in this position?

1505
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, weekend? Tell me? Tell me? What would I think?

1506
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 2: It would be a human victory for all of us.

1507
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 9: You're gonna cry. I mean, I'm telling you. I most certainly.

1508
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 9: I was like, is this for real?

1509
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: That's why I am. I'm really I'm hoping. I'm hoping

1510
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: Cynthias that it happens. Okay, I'm hoping it happened.

1511
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 9: I know people literally it was so funny in this

1512
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 9: bar that we're in. It's so loud, and people were

1513
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 9: walking in with Bucks jerseys on and and Michigan. This

1514
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 9: is this is who Lions fans are. For the first second,

1515
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 9: they're like, boo okay, you want to beer? Boo okay,

1516
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 9: what I want to beer? Anyone?

1517
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,800
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Speaker 2: The crown is yours, Cynthia. Do you want to stick

1522
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: around to do a little news before we go? You

1523
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: know it all right? By the way, check out, let's

1524
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,879
Speaker 2: check in on the lock standings. By the way. Oh

1525
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: why why should we just where we're at? Oh? The

1526
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: Westling brothers, they're holding tight for second place. Look at Rosenthal,

1527
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 2: she's stealing with this on a weekly basis.

1528
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 9: Does he have that smug little picture with a little

1529
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 9: crown in this show?

1530
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 2: Now that's oh god, that's how many graphics do you have.

1531
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 5: Of he's got out? He's got this PM Eastern work.

1532
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 9: He's got this smug little headugine and then it has

1533
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 9: this little tiny this has this little tiny crown that comes.

1534
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 5: And you just look like, I don't crown.

1535
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that would be back to back back.

1536
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: Can we say, let's see the second half standings too

1537
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 2: while we're here? Oh wow, you created these? Well look

1538
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 2: at the trophy too. You gotta check this out. Is

1539
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,759
Speaker 2: on the fashund That's an impressive trophy.

1540
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 4: Just to let you know, by the way, I like

1541
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 4: you're looking at my score thinking this person doesn't belong

1542
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 4: in the building, But like.

1543
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: Here a the standing the best doucer and Greg tied

1544
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 2: at seven and two. The second half title Wesling. Let

1545
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: me get through the podcast the Westling Brothers. They don't

1546
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 2: even get the right spelling on their last name anymore.

1547
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 2: They're four and five and Sesta three and six. The

1548
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: reverse show Himan at three and six.

1549
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 9: He's just waiting.

1550
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 4: I am ready to pounce when the time is right,

1551
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: which could be two seasons.

1552
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah pounds. Oh yeah.

1553
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 3: It's funny because someone a birdie from the NFL research

1554
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,679
Speaker 3: department contacted me during that because you had said second

1555
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 3: half standard since week nine, and they pointed out that

1556
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 3: you were two games behind since week nine, so you

1557
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: you've adjusted even the cuttings.

1558
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 2: Wait what that he was actually two games behind?

1559
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 5: He is, But someone was like, like, to be fair,

1560
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 5: he had said after week and actually your two games up.

1561
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 2: Since they reached out you out of pocket.

1562
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 5: They just came not really my sources, but uh.

1563
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 9: They reached out.

1564
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 2: Told to me it wasn't really the NFL reason. This

1565
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: is what well, this is what you need to know.

1566
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 2: I mean, if I said week nine that I misspoke.

1567
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 5: It is at the midway, second half of that season.

1568
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: No, the season with the trust me, I have this

1569
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 2: all figured out, the regular season plus the playoffs twenty two. Okay,

1570
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: that's good.

1571
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 3: Congrats to the Bears they won the NFC North and

1572
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,480
Speaker 3: Raiders are your AFC West champions.

1573
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work well with Greg on this. He's

1574
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: not gonna You have no idea how well it's working.

1575
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: It's driving him. All right, let's get to the news. Uh,

1576
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: Cynthia a lot going on, a lot. All right, let's

1577
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: take a break and then we'll hit the news. D

1578
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 2: welcome back. It is the AFC NFC Championship game preview.

1579
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 2: See they're used to it, you're not. We just went

1580
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: through both games, picked both games, and we're excited to

1581
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: watch how it all unfolds. But with Cynthia Freeland still

1582
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: in the house, she went against the machine. Just like

1583
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: just like Rocky went against Drago, Casparov went against the robit,

1584
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: Cindy goes against her own machine picking the Lions.

1585
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,959
Speaker 9: I sometimes you got to take the lower probability outcome, buddy,

1586
01:12:58,479 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 9: I love it.

1587
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that Adan's not gonna be happy. That's

1588
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: when you get home. The machine will let you know.

1589
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: I picture various highly dangerous circumstances involving cutlery, and you know,

1590
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, a meat cleaver goes flying by.

1591
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 2: I've your machine has those like in the cartoons of

1592
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: the metal tubes with the hands that can do things.

1593
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 4: Right the final twenty minutes of like two thousand and

1594
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 4: one Space Odyssey where like the entire operation turns against

1595
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 4: you rental apartment.

1596
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 2: So yep, they'll be careful. I'm just saying, head on

1597
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: a swivel. Let's get to the news, and we'll start

1598
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: with the big one. Obviously, Jim Harbaugh is indeed coming

1599
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,879
Speaker 2: back to the NFL. How about that the Los Angeles Chargers,

1600
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 2: And I got to give the Charges a little bit

1601
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 2: of credit here, Cynthia, because everything I've been led to

1602
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: believe about the Charges is that in the end they're

1603
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: gonna cut a corner and they're not gonna go all

1604
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: in and and and they'll just continue to exist as

1605
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: an organization. But this to me, Cynthia, this move the're

1606
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 2: bringing Jim Harbaugh a deal for five years, according to reports,

1607
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: kind of completely reframes this organization. And with Justin Herbert

1608
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: in place maybe a bright tomorrow.

1609
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's a few things that I really like about this.

1610
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 9: But I have to give a nice little shout out

1611
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 9: to the Chargers social because that whole like evoking like

1612
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 9: signs of like the pope, them picking new pope was

1613
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 9: really funny.

1614
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 2: So coming from the coming that.

1615
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 9: Was really good. That was really good.

1616
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 2: They're feeling themselves.

1617
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 9: As they should. Yes, I mean I feel not that

1618
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 9: it was a foregone conclusion. I think they went through

1619
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 9: the process and they did the things that they needed

1620
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 9: to do to make sure and vet that this was

1621
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 9: the right choice. But I feel like this was their

1622
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 9: goal all along and they wanted to kind of make

1623
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 9: sure they were doing the right thing. To me, this

1624
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 9: is a huge difference maker. I think Justin Herbert will

1625
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 9: now have some stability. A five year contract is hopefully

1626
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 9: a long time. I mean we don't we know that

1627
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 9: sometimes that hasn't worked out in the past, But in

1628
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 9: this case, I believe them that they're going to give

1629
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 9: him a nice long leash in order to hire the

1630
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 9: right people do what he needs to do. And I

1631
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 9: think that they probably feel like, you know, look, we

1632
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 9: know that Patrick Mahomes is still in this division, but

1633
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 9: there are some opportunities here, especially with the Raiders are

1634
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 9: still confusing. The Broncos are pretty confusing. I think that

1635
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 9: they're like, Okay, we you know, just get into the

1636
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 9: to the dance. Doesn't necessarily mean we need to always win,

1637
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 9: but get into the dance, and this gives them the

1638
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 9: best opportunity to do so.

1639
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 4: I think it's it's going to be really interesting to

1640
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: watch the team building side of this because we we're

1641
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 4: gonna get the Harbaugh offense, and that's their tight end

1642
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 4: room is gonna change vastly, Like they're gonna want to

1643
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 4: be big sets, heavy sets, and like their running back

1644
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 4: room is going to change. And it's like, I think

1645
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,839
Speaker 4: what Justin Herbert has been asked to do through multiple

1646
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 4: play callers is going to change a lot. And I

1647
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 4: think that the relationship between Justin Herbert and the coaching

1648
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 4: staff for years has been a big problem here and

1649
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 4: that changes entirely now. They are two totally different personalities

1650
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 4: based on what little we know about Justin Herbert, what

1651
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 4: we do know about Jim Harbor. My question always with

1652
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 4: Harbaugh is like, cool, everyone's super excited right now.

1653
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 2: You know, when we when we started the show.

1654
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 4: Harbaugh was, you know, phasing out of the Niners, and

1655
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 4: by the time he left, people weren't that unhappy to

1656
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 4: see him go, Like it came and went, and that's fine,

1657
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:19,759
Speaker 4: that's NFL coaching.

1658
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: But it's like, where will we be three years from now?

1659
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: That's all.

1660
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 4: That's my only concern with the Harball experience a little bit.

1661
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 4: But otherwise, the Chargers have an identity.

1662
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: The people he did. He did.

1663
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 3: The people that weren't happy to see him go, though,

1664
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 3: I think were primarily his general manager Trent Balk and

1665
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 3: his boss Jed York, like where he got into these

1666
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 3: battles with them. I don't think the players were, like

1667
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: maybe they they got sick of it.

1668
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 2: What he went after.

1669
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 3: But it's just hard to argue with the guy that's

1670
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 3: been successful literally everywhere that there's there's no exception to

1671
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 3: him hitting like a home run essentially in every single spot,

1672
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 3: and it's always with quarterbacks. As a justin Herbert fan,

1673
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 3: I'm really excited even if he brings in Greg Roman,

1674
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,720
Speaker 3: and it's like, I don't love Greg Roman if he's

1675
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 3: the play caller, but maybe he'll have a different role.

1676
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 3: And then you think about, well, Greg Roman was the

1677
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 3: coordinator with Alex Smith, who's very different than Colin Kaepernick,

1678
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 3: and they turned Alex Smith's career around, like Alex Smith

1679
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: had that game against the Saints with Greg Roman and Harborton.

1680
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 5: So I just gotta if he brings to Joe Berry right.

1681
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 3: Give some credence. Pep Hamilton's available. Does he have a

1682
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 3: history with Joe Berry?

1683
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1684
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm just David Shaw's around. No, then I won't be

1685
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 3: happy a gero. Everro all of those guys have coached

1686
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 3: with Harbaugh before, and so you have to assume he

1687
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:43,839
Speaker 3: is getting personnel say and or control will be involved

1688
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 3: in the GM higher, so that it's all something to watch.

1689
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 3: But in a way that even though they have Herbert,

1690
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 3: I still think Harbaugh will break through in a bigger

1691
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 3: way here in Los Angeles and it'll be really great

1692
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 3: for them just as a as an organization.

1693
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: The Home Run Higher, it's a no brainer. It's when

1694
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 2: we started the NFL, That's when he came in in

1695
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, during the lockout season, we went through his

1696
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 2: whole career. He disappears now he's back. I just feel

1697
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 2: like football is a weirder, more interesting place with Jim

1698
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 2: Harbaugh back in the NFL. I'm excited. You know who

1699
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: else is excited? This is one of the best missives

1700
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 2: I've ever seen released in terms of the passion jumping

1701
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: off the page. Here's Dean Spanos, who you know, we

1702
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 2: heard a lot of passionate Spanos. Jim Harbaugh is football

1703
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: personified and I can think of no one better to

1704
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 2: lead the Chargers forward. The son of a coach, brother

1705
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: of a coach, and father of a coach, who himself

1706
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 2: was coached by names like schem, Beckler and Ditka. For

1707
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: the past two decades, Jim has led hundreds of men

1708
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: to success everywhere he's been as their coach. Stylized he

1709
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 2: I tal on there. Good job by Dean, and today

1710
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh returns to the Chargers. This time is our

1711
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: coach who has better than us. He is excited. What

1712
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: am not for that? Of course the old Harba.

1713
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 3: Can I just sound am one for Michigan sports. It's

1714
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: kind of lost in the shuffle that most of these lines,

1715
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 3: a lot of these Lions fans are Michigan fans too,

1716
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 3: and they got a title there and they got to

1717
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 3: be very happy that Minnesota and Denver weren't interested in

1718
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh over the last two years. Then it also

1719
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 3: lost the time. I think that made it work. I'm

1720
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 3: just saying, but they got their title, they got that.

1721
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 2: Well.

1722
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 9: The one thing I will point out is if Jim Harbaugh,

1723
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 9: what we see how he's evolved as a coach over

1724
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 9: these years at Michigan, I will say it's probably even

1725
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 9: not as evident for us what he is capable of doing,

1726
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 9: because all of the time that you have to spend

1727
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 9: recruiting your guys and then keeping them and then making

1728
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 9: sure they're happy going to go in the transfer portal,

1729
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 9: and then making sure that they get paid enough for this,

1730
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 9: and I like all of that's now taken off bye bye.

1731
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 9: I would hate that would be really hard to be

1732
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 9: a head coach.

1733
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: Well, that job changed during his time, and he was

1734
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: ready to go for a couple of years, and now

1735
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: finally it lined up.

1736
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 9: Now actually devoting his time to coaching, we'll probably see

1737
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 9: even more of how he's evolved than we would have.

1738
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 3: Tough spot for Antonio Pierce. You got Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh,

1739
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 3: and Andy Reid twice.

1740
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 9: I love Antonio. I will, I will, I will punch

1741
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 9: anyone for I don't know. I won't actually punch anyone,

1742
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 9: but I will go to the map for him, because yes,

1743
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 9: I'll pop sham paper. No, he's he's a really great leader,

1744
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 9: really great leader. I've known him for a long time.

1745
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 9: He's like those guys will run through a wall for him.

1746
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 9: And it's not even a joke.

1747
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 2: You could tell that. I mean they changed dam invention.

1748
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 2: All right, Another big hire here. The Panthers are expected

1749
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 2: to hire Bucks offensive coordinator Dave Canalis.

1750
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 9: Callas Canalis, not like so hard with the A, but

1751
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 9: like canals Canals.

1752
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: Canal, it's actually Canalos. Dave. I'm gonna say, Dave, you

1753
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: say his last Nallie. Dave can Alice is the new

1754
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: head coach of the Panthers. Uh. He is formerly of

1755
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: the Buccaneers, the offensive coordinator. There. Rap sheet had this

1756
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: on Thursday, like the higher Cynthia because of it makes sense, right,

1757
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: He's a guy that's respected. He got Baker coached up

1758
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: and turned him into someone that thinks faster, plays faster,

1759
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: and that's what Bryce Young needs to do. Right.

1760
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean here's the thing. He doesn't have a

1761
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 9: long track on.

1762
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 2: Dave, just begin to make she's just begun to make

1763
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: her point.

1764
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 9: She did, he said one year as an OC. I

1765
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 9: don't have a huge lengthy track record for him, So

1766
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 9: there's a little bit more of unknown here. And the

1767
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 9: unknown factor he did figure out. I know that Todd

1768
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 9: Bowles like was banging his head against the while trying

1769
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 9: to figure out a run game for like several years now,

1770
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 9: and he figured out maybe it's short passes to running back,

1771
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 9: but that's still is a proxy for a run game.

1772
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 9: So he's had some things to figure out and some

1773
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 9: challenges to work through. This to me, will will really

1774
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 9: be dictated by who else he hires. Is he going

1775
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 9: to surround Bryce Young with the talent that like so

1776
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 9: you saw last year in Texas for the Texans they

1777
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 9: had Gerad Johnson, who was this you know he came

1778
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 9: from Atale eleven. He was a quarterback himself. He was

1779
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 9: there specifically to work with C. J. Stroud. You saw

1780
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 9: Bobby Slowick, he had a whole game. So it will

1781
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 9: really sure. I'm sure he could be great and he's

1782
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 9: had a just doesn't have the track record where I

1783
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 9: can feel so so wonderful about it. It will depend

1784
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 9: on the hires and who he surrounds.

1785
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 3: It's a meteoric rise. He was just a QB coach,

1786
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Attal and even then didn't

1787
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: have a ton of experience doing that and did a

1788
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 3: great job with Gino. And you can see some similarities

1789
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 3: between Geno and and Baker in terms of getting the

1790
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 3: ball out quicker an offense that all made sense. It's

1791
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 3: kind of crazy though, because Bucks fans were they were

1792
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 3: unhappy with Canalis for a large part of this season,

1793
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 3: and I think maybe the expectations were too high, but

1794
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 3: I think it was like play sequencing that that's something

1795
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: like a lot of good plays but a lot of

1796
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 3: early down runs that just weren't working.

1797
01:22:59,479 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: They just stuck.

1798
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: They stuck with it. They stuck with it, and eventually

1799
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 3: it got to the point where it was like okay

1800
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 3: instead of just being bad. And then you go from

1801
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 3: that and they were frustrated as late as like week

1802
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 3: eighteen in that game where and I think that's unfair.

1803
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: They did well with the talent that they have to

1804
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 3: having a couple of big playoff games, and he certainly

1805
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 3: must have won them over in the interview room because

1806
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 3: they interviewed everyone, and his track record was less than

1807
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: some and they go with an in house guy's GM

1808
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 3: and Dan Morgan and Dave Canao. So it's a little

1809
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 3: different than maybe we were expecting. But the whole point

1810
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 3: was he must have convinced them he's the right guy

1811
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 3: for bright youung. That was all they really cared about,

1812
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 3: and that's what he sold them.

1813
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 4: Well, I think it like, yeah, you like you did

1814
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 4: this with Gino Smith, he did this with Baker Mayfield,

1815
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 4: two guys that were on the out career wise. I

1816
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 4: don't know this organization stands out to me other than

1817
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 4: others because it's just like, cool, you took the job.

1818
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 4: But I think other candidates would have looked a little

1819
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 4: sideways at the ownership, the whole structure there, the way

1820
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 4: that things have happened, and so what is his power structure?

1821
01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: How much?

1822
01:23:58,479 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 4: And you know, part of it is you have to,

1823
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 4: like you said, you have to convince ownership that you

1824
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 4: can bring the right staff.

1825
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that conversation happened. We don't know.

1826
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 3: You know, what's inddressing is he worked with Dan Morgan

1827
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 3: for seven years. I didn't eve think about that because

1828
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: he was a receivers coach, forever in Seattle and Dan

1829
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 3: Morgan was in Seattle in the front office, so they

1830
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 3: have a working relationship. That's what it comes down. And

1831
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 3: sometimes like just people that you've worked to.

1832
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 2: Get gress well.

1833
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 9: I will say the thing about Dan Morgan that's interesting

1834
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 9: is despite not doing TV, he has a John Lynch

1835
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 9: like personality. If I had to like say, kind of

1836
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 9: what he acts like like former player, really good communicator.

1837
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 9: I got a chance to talk to him pretty extensively,

1838
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 9: So great communicator, understands kind of what they're looking for.

1839
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 9: So in that regard, I think the communication will be great.

1840
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 9: But again, to me, this comes down to who's your OC,

1841
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 9: who's your DC, who are you, how are you, what's

1842
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 9: going on with your old line? Because that wasn't great

1843
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 9: last year, that old line, and that's going to be

1844
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 9: like even details like that they matter a ton. So

1845
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 9: and it also shows you that this year offensive coaches

1846
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 9: are are what people are looking for. High demand offensive

1847
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 9: coaches because the fact that Mike Vrabel's out there without

1848
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 9: a job and a guy with no track record getting

1849
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 9: one because he's known as an offensive mind. That shows

1850
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 9: you something, right, It gives us some information on how

1851
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 9: how that that works.

1852
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: What do you like?

1853
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 4: Because so he became an OC and he's calling his

1854
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 4: own place, and there's a lot of narrative around like

1855
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 4: when you have to do that for the first time

1856
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 4: in a season or in a game, or in a

1857
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 4: critical moment in a game, it's like your head is

1858
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 4: spinning and that comes to experience. Like but for him

1859
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 4: to go from where he was a couple of years

1860
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 4: ago to be now the head coach and forget all

1861
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 4: the personality business, but like, just to manage a game

1862
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 4: like that leap to me, seems there's no proof he

1863
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 4: can do that.

1864
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: Well.

1865
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: The biggest concern is to me and Morgan might be

1866
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 2: a Lynch type and be a good leader and have

1867
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 2: a good nose for talent, and this guy might work.

1868
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 2: But the guy they're answering to, there's man if I'm Dave,

1869
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: no canalis Uh, first call I'm making before I take

1870
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 2: the job is like Frank Reich, like what so what

1871
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: am I getting into here? Like You're not do That's

1872
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: what I would do.

1873
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 9: I'm saying, why are you looking for negative things?

1874
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: I guess I got to be a realist.

1875
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 9: And I would call anyone who works for David Tepper's

1876
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 9: hedge fund and be like, how did you make so

1877
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 9: much money? Because that's gonna be what he wants to

1878
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 9: talk to me about, is whatever that translates to, because

1879
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 9: I need to figure out how to speak his language.

1880
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 9: Because this guy isn't like a lot of the other

1881
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, is a billionaire.

1882
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: There's only there's only thirty two of these jobs, so

1883
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be surprised that, you know, Canalis or anybody else.

1884
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 9: You've pert you nailed it.

1885
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 2: Is jumping is jumping toward it. I would just be

1886
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 2: very very nervous anybody that organization.

1887
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 9: Better not to know, Like maybe maybe it's better not.

1888
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: To waste to look at it like Frank, which.

1889
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 9: Had come off of an exit very recently, so maybe

1890
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 9: it's better not to be like, Hey, this is all

1891
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 9: new to me, this will be fun.

1892
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: Why not this guy's gonna ruin my life.

1893
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 9: It's not going to ruin it.

1894
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: It's like a little heads up by the way.

1895
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 4: You you get paid if you don't make it through

1896
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,959
Speaker 4: a year or two any but the dream.

1897
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 2: Is to be a head coach. I would just say,

1898
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: if I've never been a head coach before, you never know.

1899
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 9: To get south to you, and that is a very.

1900
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:08,959
Speaker 2: Entering a healthy situation.

1901
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 9: Think about it. Okay, well go get therapy. I mean

1902
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 9: we all do. We don't necessarily work at the healthiest place.

1903
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 9: I go to therapy every week, Like let's just go

1904
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 9: with that. So but but look like better help, better

1905
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 9: help ye one option one option A great A great one.

1906
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 9: Actually I really like better help. But the reality is is,

1907
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 9: you know, you're in the NFC South. People get pretty

1908
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 9: happy when you get w's. So if you you're in

1909
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 9: a thing, I hear all that.

1910
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 2: I think it's.

1911
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 3: That's really like kind of overlooked in the like it's

1912
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 3: tough for any human to not take a one thousand if.

1913
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 9: You wanted to hire as your as your general manager.

1914
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 9: Heck yeah, like I mean, but also like roll the dice,

1915
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,759
Speaker 9: like have faith in yourself, especially in a division that's

1916
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 9: did anyone really want to win that division this year?

1917
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 9: I mean the Bucks made it far like it just

1918
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 9: felt like we were kind of like this one. No

1919
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 9: one thought that that was going to happen. So that's

1920
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 9: a good spot to be in.

1921
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 2: I hope. Listen, if you have one of the thirty

1922
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: two chairs, it's a good spot.

1923
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 9: If you have one of the thirty two chairs in

1924
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 9: a down division. It's even better spot some you.

1925
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Know, some coaches. Quiet is for real. But yeah, some

1926
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 2: coaches I would imagine out there would passing this job

1927
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 2: for the reasons that I'm illustrating we're pointing out. Sure,

1928
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: but not Dave. Though not speaking of Dave, I won't

1929
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: say who it was, but just threw that name out there,

1930
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: but someone that works in the newsroom that's known to

1931
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: be a Panthers fan historically. One year his favorite team

1932
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl. I'm not going to say

1933
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 2: who my sources, but he had a bottle of champagne

1934
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: and the night ended after a Carolina loss in Super

1935
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 2: Bowl fifty with him sitting alone in a hot tub

1936
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 2: with a bottle of champagne, and his girlfriend left him

1937
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 2: shortly thereafter. It's on brand all that is just to

1938
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 2: say person. That's so I won't say because I don't

1939
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 2: reveal my sources.

1940
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he's also been a multiple time guest of

1941
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 3: the show, so right, listen, please show please.

1942
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 9: I didn't hear about that, though, I have to figure

1943
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 9: it out.

1944
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 5: Though he didn't mean you I mentioned left him that night.

1945
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 2: I don't recall that. Yeah, hend that time. Maybe I'm conflating.

1946
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 9: I don't want someone that's going to be with me

1947
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 9: when things are down. Let me know, fine, whatever kick

1948
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 9: me when I'm down makes it easier with this good call.

1949
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: Tempted In coming back, this person texted me Panthers now

1950
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 2: have a sneaky hot HC and Dave Canalis he is hot?

1951
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: U m dash analyis I don't I'm gonna be as

1952
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 2: with you?

1953
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 9: Wow?

1954
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: He is.

1955
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 4: But you know what I've noticed, like the nice now

1956
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 4: like unattractive dumpy head coaches are not being hired as

1957
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 4: head coaches anymore.

1958
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: That Wayne Fonx isn't getting hired anymore. They're being dismissed

1959
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 2: not to go after Wayne, but you know.

1960
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 9: You just leave him alone this way out of this.

1961
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:51,719
Speaker 3: That's a good uh connection, because I believe was canallics

1962
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 3: I know is Mexican American, so he's one of the

1963
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 3: first Latino had coaches in the history of the sport.

1964
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 3: And Wayne Fonce isn't he as well?

1965
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: My crazy I don't know, man, We're gonna to check

1966
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: out the old family tree on that one. Let's move on.

1967
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio is playing a little hot potato because he

1968
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 2: is now going from Miami, where he is out as

1969
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 2: their DC is now locked in. Is it official yet?

1970
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 5: But he's the If it's not, the reporting is yes, okay,

1971
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:20,719
Speaker 5: so happening.

1972
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there you go, Fangio, who is a well

1973
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 2: known figure in this realm. Remember we were throwing flowers

1974
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 2: at the feet of the Dolphins for getting Fangio with you.

1975
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 9: Whoever gets that job, give him to someone without less experience.

1976
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 9: That's a good defense. They got a lot of pieces there.

1977
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 2: So Vic, it didn't work out Miami. But Philly's like,

1978
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 2: you got to be better than our last guy and

1979
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 2: the other guy that we booted upstairs but kept the

1980
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: camera on him. He humiliated the guy for a couple

1981
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 2: of months. Anyway, Fangio to Philly thoughts, it's unique that

1982
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 2: it happened this late. I want to know the backstory.

1983
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 3: My guy tells me that Vic vondiode, and I know

1984
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 3: there's all these reports that he wasn't getting along with

1985
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 3: some of the players, and I don't know if there

1986
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:09,560
Speaker 3: was any conflict with the coaching stuff all that. Like,

1987
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 3: I believe all that, but I still am guessing because

1988
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 3: of the timing and everything.

1989
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 2: It's like he just.

1990
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 3: Wanted to go to Philadelphia and he got his way,

1991
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,479
Speaker 3: and he got his way out and that and they

1992
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 3: wanted to hire him last year. They would have hired

1993
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 3: him last year if not for this whole confusing setup

1994
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 3: that they couldn't hire him because he had come in

1995
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 3: for the Super Bowl and they had to do all

1996
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 3: the interview. It was all this stuff with Jonathan gand

1997
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 3: and they lost the draft pick because of it. And

1998
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 3: so I think his family's in Pennsylvania too. He wanted

1999
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 3: to be closer to that, And I think it was

2000
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,839
Speaker 3: just a rare case of a guy kind of forcing

2001
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: his way out and getting to where he wanted to go.

2002
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 2: And it's good for the Eagles.

2003
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it came so close to happening before, and that's

2004
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 4: what he wanted. And it's like you kind of look

2005
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:51,879
Speaker 4: back at like the earlier week cleaning out of everyone

2006
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. They must have known, like this is, we've

2007
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,000
Speaker 4: got this guy in our back pocket and he's proven.

2008
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 4: I would say, you're also walking into a situation where

2009
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 4: if things go south on Nick Sirianni, you know over

2010
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 4: the first couple of months next year, it's like, all right,

2011
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 4: we'll see how long that coaching stuff lasts.

2012
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 2: But I mean fit found you at this age, Go

2013
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 2: do what you want to do. He could be the

2014
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 2: UH interim coaching by October. You never know.

2015
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 9: When I look at this, I think Mike McDaniel's kind

2016
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 9: of reshaping and retooling. He's not the only person to

2017
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 9: exit Miami right now. So if you're not happy, don't

2018
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 9: force someone to be there. You know, like, like, it's

2019
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 9: not like he's going to be.

2020
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 2: Like he never seems happy, right Mark, You've had nice interest.

2021
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 2: I wouldn't belabored, I said.

2022
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 4: I told him that, like when the Niners went to

2023
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl, you have these like rooms where you

2024
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 4: go in interview and they's sitting alone at a table,

2025
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 4: and I thought, well, there's no one else there. I

2026
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 4: can talk to the defensive coordinator. And I know this

2027
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 4: is not holistically who he is. But he couldn't have

2028
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 4: been grumpier or more agitated that I had sat down

2029
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 4: to visit with him and wanted me gone as quickly

2030
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 4: as a human could be gone.

2031
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 9: So I was like, ask him if it was a

2032
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 9: must win game.

2033
01:32:57,520 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 2: I well, I did not.

2034
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 4: I asked, you know, I asked pertinent question, one pertinent question.

2035
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 4: So this is not working out, and like I don't

2036
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 4: want to force the remate a journalistic decision to I

2037
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 4: mean to pursue, you know, someone else and move away

2038
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 4: from mister sunshine.

2039
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, sovon Davon Holland their safety. There was a bunch

2040
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 3: of little social media posts from Dolphins players seeming to celebrate,

2041
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,360
Speaker 3: not as much as the Bucks did, where they did

2042
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 3: like a dance that their coach got fired before the game,

2043
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 3: which I've never seen that in sports.

2044
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 2: That was amazing.

2045
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 3: Wednesday night, Uh, Javon Holland did a video where he

2046
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 3: kicked rocks and uh, which is like go kick rocks.

2047
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 2: Uh fo.

2048
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 3: But in case anyone didn't understand it his to get

2049
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 3: that guy like his dad is coaching his dad, who's

2050
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,759
Speaker 3: a coach, Like retweeted and said everyone loves the iPhone,

2051
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:46,360
Speaker 3: but no one wants the iPhone one point zero hashtag upgrade.

2052
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 2: It was like whoa they did?

2053
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 3: They were in fans hold on no fond Joe, But

2054
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 3: uh as a good coach and I think they did

2055
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 3: a good job defensively this year.

2056
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 2: Little some red flags there by the way.

2057
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 9: But but if it's not working, I think it's smart

2058
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 9: to cut ties fast, right, you know, like like let

2059
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 9: him go it seems like a win win here. He

2060
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 9: seems to be happier and more near his family paying

2061
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 9: a higher tax bracket than they're happier down there figuring

2062
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 9: out someone new, this is a really attractive job if

2063
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,759
Speaker 9: I'm a young defensive coordinator or someone that's like maybe

2064
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 9: like on my way up that this, I'm like, somebody

2065
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 9: get me to Miami. Like that's a great that's a

2066
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 9: great job. You have really great assets on that team.

2067
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 2: Finally, in the news, here we go, what is it?

2068
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 2: Congratulations Greg for all your moral grand style grand standing

2069
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: when we talk about the hot butts and all pious

2070
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 2: always getting on me for celebrating guys losing their job.

2071
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 2: Joe Berry is out kind Bay. So there you go.

2072
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,599
Speaker 2: Do do a little dance, Greggie, you got the DC canned.

2073
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:52,839
Speaker 3: I'm hardly a unique on the island that they uniquely.

2074
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 9: You've you've called for everyone's head who's gotten fired this year.

2075
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 9: I've on game deview you have you're you're like.

2076
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 5: About calling for you talk about criticized, you.

2077
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 9: Talk about that standing for.

2078
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 2: For the lock of the week, his personality, you know what.

2079
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,520
Speaker 9: His standing for. He's one hundred percent on this guy's getting.

2080
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 2: Cant wow, Greg, what's more predictions?

2081
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 9: Your predictions?

2082
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 5: You can seen this coming from for Joe Barry.

2083
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 2: That's not the way she put it. You called for

2084
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 2: heads to wow anyway, Joe Barry is out just a

2085
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 2: human man. Let's bring this. Let's bring this everybody.

2086
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,920
Speaker 9: I want to know what gy your out standers doing there, like,

2087
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 9: like I think there's a couple of things here, Like

2088
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 9: we'll see if they can.

2089
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 2: Get I say, make him the DC.

2090
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 9: Wouldn't it be great?

2091
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 2: What I do?

2092
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 6: Uh?

2093
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:42,679
Speaker 2: Cynthia, you're a gem. Good luck to you this weekend.

2094
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 2: What's your fans? You work in the game? What? Uh?

2095
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 2: You know?

2096
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 9: I'm going to watch from home. I need my emotional

2097
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 9: support dog with me at all times, not the dog

2098
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 9: with you, and I will not have any social media

2099
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 9: on This is very nice.

2100
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 4: So you're recently engaged in and so does your partner

2101
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 4: he is he.

2102
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 9: Not a linesman, he's from New Jersey.

2103
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 4: Do you do you want him in your realm when

2104
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 4: this is happening or do you just have to do

2105
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 4: this on your own?

2106
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 2: It's a dangerous place to be. Maybe.

2107
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 9: Well he's pretty supportive about it. He's like very chill.

2108
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 9: So he's got a nicer. Yeah, he's like surfer but

2109
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 9: like also a banker. It's kind of a strange mixed

2110
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:24,519
Speaker 9: surf and banker. Surfer, banker, banker, you know. And so

2111
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,280
Speaker 9: he's kind also a crime fighter at night, yes, also,

2112
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 9: but he goes about it early, so you have to

2113
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 9: fight crime like between the hours of like five to

2114
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 9: seven because he works.

2115
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 2: Sure, a dusk crime fighter.

2116
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 9: Dusk crime fighter.

2117
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,560
Speaker 2: That really where all the crime goes down in the

2118
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 2: big city. Yes, all right, well enjoy that. And like

2119
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 2: I said, head on swivel with the rumba coming to

2120
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 2: get me. We'll be back on Sunday. It is the

2121
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 2: big one. It is Championship Sunday. So we'll recap those

2122
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 2: games and until then, you know what you gotta do.

2123
01:36:58,320 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 2: The call