WEBVTT - TIGER WOODS ARREST 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:13.160 Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, fifteen times Major Golf Championship, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:22.200 The Works, the PGA, Pebble Beach, The Masters, Tiger Woods arrest. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.919 I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:28.600 thank you for being with us. Tiger Woods and the Can, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:34.360 the Pokey, the big House. That's right, golf legend. Tiger 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:40.040 Woods arrest straight out to Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter. 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.440 What this time? 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.040 Nancy Friday afternoon, around two o'clock, Tiger Woods is driving 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.519 his Range Drover near his home on Jupiter Island, Florida. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.160 He's on a small two lane road and he decides 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.840 to pass a truck carrying a trick. As he goes 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.720 to speed up to get around the trailer, he clips 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.160 it on the back, causing his Range Rover to flip 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:08.039 on its side and slide. Tiger climbs out of the 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:12.280 passenger side window, and of course police are called and 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.280 he appeared disheveled, not able to really make a lot 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.920 of sense. But you know they didn't smell alcohol in 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:20.400 his breath. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:25.360 Nancy Tiger Woods golf ledgen now facing a legal dog 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:30.720 fight against Florida prosecutors. Will they quote make an example 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:36.440 out of him. What really happened? This is what I 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.480 do know. I do know, and correct me if I'm wrong, 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:44.600 Dave Mac. He refused a year analysis. Law enforcement came 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:49.720 to the scene, believe and state in police reports they 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:55.400 believed that he was under the influence, not of alcohol, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.200 but some sort of drug, be it prescribed or not. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.160 Isn't that true? 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.120 Absolutely, he did take a breath. I want to know 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.280 that he took a breathalyzer test and blew zero point 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:13.720 zero zero. That is why after a roadside limited sobriety test, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:19.080 detectives determined he was under the influence of something. But 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:23.320 Tiger Woods refuses to do the blood test. In Florida, 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.200 that's a misdemeanor. So he gets a charge for not 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.360 taking the blood test, and they are charging him with 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:33.560 driving under the influence for failing at the roadside sobriety checkpoint. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.840 Dave mac, I believe he refused to give a urine 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:41.359 sample twice. But you're right, he refused it on the roadside, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.919 and he refused it at the jail. That in itself 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:51.919 is an infraction of your driving privileges. Here's my concern. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.760 I love Tiger Woods. I always root for Tiger Woods. 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.320 I can never get the image of him coming up 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.680 on the last hole. He'll be wearing a red shirt. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:07.920 His dad in life would be wearing a red shirt 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:13.160 and they would meet, and the dad would walk the 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.880 course with him. Remember that. That has always been in 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:24.000 my mind. And I remember distinctly his first golf competition 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.799 after his father had passed away. He walked up the 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.720 hill and there was no dad, and I and every 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:40.680 other commentator noticed it. It's very much etched into everyone's mind. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.600 He is in media darling. Everybody loves Tiger Woods. But 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.640 this is what I cannot ignore. Let's see his history. 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.160 Put it up. This is by far not the first 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.280 time Tiger Woods has had a let me just say, 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.800 that's not his driving history. Put up his driving history. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.240 I can only vamp along waiting for you to push 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:07.440 the right button. This is not by far his first 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:12.960 driving infraction, and that is certainly a euphemism. Two thousand 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.400 and nine. These are the ones we know of the 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:21.240 fire hydrant crash. He collided with a fire hydrant and 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:27.039 a tree after leaving his own home. Can't get away 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:34.159 from that. DUI number one asleep behind the wheel, driving 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.719 under the influence doesn't refer just to alcohol. It's the 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:44.400 influence of drugs or alcohol. Twenty twenty one eighty seven 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.599 miles an hour, and what I recall off the top 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:52.760 of my head was a forty five mph zone in 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.880 that case. To doctor Kendall Crown's joining US renowned medical 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.400 examiner out of Terrance County, that's fort worth ever a 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.800 lack of business at the Morgue. He is an esteemed 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.440 lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU, and 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.440 he is the star of Mayhem in the Morgue A 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:18.039 hit podcast Dodger Kendall Crowns, do you recall what happened 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:23.640 to Tiger's leg? Tiger Woods's leg in that incident? He 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.200 was this close to having his leg amputated. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.320 Why so, in that one he had massive fracturing of 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.280 I believe is to be amphibula that actually ended up 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.080 having to be have a rod put in place, which 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.880 means these fractures were so severe that the bones were 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:44.880 not connecting anymore, or a compound type fracture, which if 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:47.760 you pushed that a little bit further, you the muscle 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.880 and the skin are the only thing holding the leg 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:53.840 into place. So potentially his leg could have been completely 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.760 ripped off in that accident and he had to have 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.000 significant surgery to repair it. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.080 Okay, a year going too fast for as mirror mortals. 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.479 Can you take it more slowly and explain to me 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.280 why tiger woods and he has said this, that's where 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:14.640 I'm getting it. This close to having his leg amputated. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.720 I mean, that would have taught me stay away from 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.400 the drugs and the alcohol, but it didn't. Okay, slow 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.560 it down for us and explain what happened in that incident. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:29.160 So in that incident, he had what is called a 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.280 compound fracture of his tibianphibula, which are the two bones 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.360 in your lower leg, and a compound fracture means they're 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.159 completely separated off of each other instead of being close 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.520 to one another. So they had to use rods to 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.480 repair it. But the problem is is when you get 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:49.480 those compound type fractures, all that's keeping your leg together 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:55.720 is your skin and muscle and your vascular and those 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.800 if those get torn even further, your leg completely comes off. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.960 Because really your bones are what's keeping your leg together, 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.120 and once those are fractured in displaced, the only thing 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.280 left keeping it together is your skin and muscle, and 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.320 it doesn't take much force to rip those apart. So 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.280 he was really close to having an amputation at that moment. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.360 Doctor Kendall Crowns, this reminds me of the oj Simpson 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:25.800 murder trial where Nicole Brown's head was only still attached 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.040 to her neck because of the little bit of skin 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:34.080 in the back her. Everything, the bone, the muscle, the 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:39.360 everything was severed. And you're telling me in this case 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.040 with Tiger Woods, it was just the skin and the 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:49.800 blood vessels holding his leg on his body and the muscle. 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.240 Yes, more likely than not, that's why all that was 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.200 keeping him intact, because the bones were completely fractured. 0:07:55.400 --> 0:08:00.360 Golf legend Tiger Woods arrest for a car crash in Florida, East, 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:06.280 the fourth auto related incident of his the second in 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:11.600 which he's charged with duy and duy is drugs or alcohol. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.960 According to the police report, he showed size of impairment 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.640 and was arrested there. At the scene, he struck another 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.520 vehicle he was trying to pass, not just a vehicle, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:27.560 but a vehicle dragging a vehicle behind it. His land 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.040 rover rolls over and he's not far from home, as 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.920 was the case in a prior incident. He did a breathalyzer, 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:41.040 it's negative. He refused a urine test. Why why refuse 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:46.440 the urine test? He refused to submit to a lawful test. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:52.560 That is a misdemeanor. Now, back in twoenty seventeen, that's 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.480 when he has found asleep at the wheel, engine running 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:03.680 in a traffic lane, damage to the driver's side. At 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.680 that time, he stated he had taken a mix of 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:12.400 prescription painkillers. He said he had a bad reaction. Yeah, 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.720 that bad reaction was he fell asleep at the wheel 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:21.440 and hit something. Nobody really knows what, So Dave Matt 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.520 was that his first driving infraction that we know of. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.520 Well, the two thousand and nine infraction is the first 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.320 one we know of Nancy, and that was the fire 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.120 hydrant collision at two thirty in the morning. That's with 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.880 his first wife. You know, El catches him outside and 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.240 has to beat the back window in with the golf club. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.720 This was right outside the house when that actually happened, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:49.880 and he had a bloody lip, blood in his mouth. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:55.040 The next one was twenty seventeen and Nancy that crashed 0:09:55.080 --> 0:10:00.320 there that DUI in twenty seventeen. He had Tiger Woods, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:04.640 had a lot of medication in his system, a lot 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:09.600 of different types of medication, including vicodin, dilauded, xan x, 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.560 ambient anti marijuana. I'm sure that. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:20.240 Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Dave Matt, don't just 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:27.840 roll it off. Okay, you said vicodin, delauded, I heard pot. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:29.240 Was there pot in his system? 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:30.200 Yeah? There was? 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:36.160 Okay, what else vikod in, dilauded, xanax, and ambient beyond 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:36.800 the pie. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:38.760 Yeah, all at the same. 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:46.920 Time Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:56.080 Vikod in, dilauded, xanax, and ambient beyond the pie. 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:59.400 To doctor Kendall Crowns, could you explain which each of 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:00.559 those substance are? 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:06.600 Certainly so, Vicodin is, hydrocodone and acetamenifen together, hydrocodone being 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:13.600 an opioid, cetamenoven being like tylanol or an analgesic. Delauded 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.480 is also known as hydromorphone. Again, it's another one in 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.400 the opioid category, which would go along with the hydro codone. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:26.000 Xanax is an anti anxiety drug that's a benzodiazepine also 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.880 known as alpas lamb. So it kind of sedates you 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.400 and then of course ambient is used for insomnia. All 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.720 four of these medications together would be a very bad 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.959 mixture that we see in drug overdose is quite common 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.199 and it's not something that you want to mix a 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:46.280 put together or mix commonly because you can easily overdose. 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.040 And what they usually do is cause drowsiness or sleepiness, 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.079 which would cause him to crash his car. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:58.760 Straight out to doctor Bethany Marshall, joining us renowned psychoanalyst. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.400 She's the author deal Breakers. You can see her now 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:07.320 on Bravo and Peacock and find her at doctor Bethanymarshall 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:13.960 dot com. Doctor Bethany, that's a lot of drugs, some prescribed, 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.320 some illegal. What do you make of it? 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.320 Well, I have so many thoughts about this. One of 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.800 the things we see with athletes is that they have 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:25.439 a lot of injuries over time, and because of that, 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.640 they might be prescribed opiates, which then begins the process 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.319 of an addiction. People can become addicted to opiates very easily, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:37.640 and the benzodiazepines, like the ambient. Often with opiates there's 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.520 a nodding off quality, like there'll be a wake one 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:44.280 minute and they will just nod out, okay. So in 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.840 the two thousand and nine DUI was fascinating as I 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:50.680 covered that with you, Nancy. I remember being in the 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.720 waiting room or the green room at CNN and all 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.600 of Tiger Wood's girlfriends were coming in, so I was 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.880 able to hear all the Pine Scenes stories from them. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.719 But what was clear was he took Ambient at two 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:08.080 thousand and nine, fell asleep, his phone kept blowing up. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.960 Elin Nordegren looked in the phone and saw that they 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.120 were all these girls. She grabs one of his golf clubs. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:17.680 I don't think she hit him with it, but she 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.200 grabbed him, woke him up. He ran out the door 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:26.199 on Ambient, climbed into a golf cart and hit a tree. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:30.400 So you already have you know the benzos in his system, 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:34.360 poor judgment, impulsivity, and then you see the next one. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.520 He just kind of nods off in the car. By 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.240 the third time where he almost had to have his 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:44.800 leg amputated, he's really escalating in his behavior. And I 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:48.319 think the layering on of all these medications, my guess 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.040 is that he would take one doesn't feel high enough, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.280 and then would then add another one in still doesn't 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.319 have the desired effect. If you've ever heard of the 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:00.679 term chasing that first high, it's the term when people 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.640 suffering from substance use disorders tried to create that initial 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.720 euphoric effect when they first take a drug, and that's 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.400 why they take more and more and eventually. I think 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.400 what doctor Kendall Crown's is referring to in terms of 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.120 a du in terms of overdoses, I call it pulling 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.760 a heath Ledger, because pretty much your breathing is suppressed 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.760 and you just drift out, drift out of this world, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.880 and then that's it. And so at this point he's 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.680 kind of lost a sense of where he is, who 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.200 he is, how much he has taken. I guess he's 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.400 just sober enough to say he wants to refuse the 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:42.240 ur analysis, but he's definitely extremely impaired. 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:46.880 You know, remember doctor Bethany after the incident in twenty 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.160 one where he shattered his leg. He had to have 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.760 a hospital bed put in his home and he was 0:14:54.840 --> 0:15:01.120 completely immobilized for three months. I think that would have 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:04.920 taught most people stay away from the booze and the drugs. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:10.440 On the other hand, his leg had been shattered and 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.560 that the pain must have been intense, and it's probably 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.960 ongoing forever for the rest of his life. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.760 Yet I'm thinking that what might have happened is we 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:21.000 don't know of any rehabs or I haven't heard of 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.040 any or any kind of treatment he's interest. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:27.920 But in twenty seventeen he went into a drug addiction facility. Dr. 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:29.560 Bethany twenty seventeen. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.200 Well, good for him, But in that drug addiction facility, 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.960 you know, if his leg was almost amputated, they would 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:41.040 have to prescribe opiate's pain medication, maybe morphine. So perhaps 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:47.080 paradoxically the accident re addicted him by reintroducing him to 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:51.600 these kinds of pain medications. Oh, these substances act on 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.800 the reward centers of the brain, which becomes a powerful 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.560 motivator for taking more and more and more substances until 0:15:58.600 --> 0:15:59.960 the person is completely addicted. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.840 Joining us now out of New York p R guru 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:07.320 to the Stars and Celebrities, Rob Shooter. He is also 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.320 the author of a brand new book, It Started with 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:15.920 a Whisper, that is now number one on the Amazon 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:19.720 charts for new releases. You can find him at Robshooter 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:25.880 dot substat dot com. Rob if and when will the 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:31.600 public get fed up with second chances for Tiger Woods. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.440 When I think he's happening, Nancu, I really do think 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.600 it's happening. There's an epidemic of drugs of substance abuse 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:43.240 amongst the rich and the famous and the powerful. And 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.560 what the sad story here is that not only has 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:51.360 Tiger not learned his lesson, he's continuing to put other 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.800 people at risk here. If he wants to do drugs 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.880 and stay home and pass out, up to him, he 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.920 can live that life. He's got plenty of money. He 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.040 doesn't need to worry about going to work tomorrow. However, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.480 to get in the car, to drive on public streets, 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:11.480 to put other people at this danger is so galling 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.920 to me, is so wrong to me. And I think 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.320 that's what the public is going to get sick of, 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.520 not Tiger. If he wants to kill himself, if he 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.880 wants to mess with his own life, that's up to him. However, 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.520 he can't take us down with him. That's what's going 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:25.960 to stick. 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.600 He is a media darling. Everyone has a soft spot 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.920 in their heart for Tiger Woods. We've watched him grow 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.440 up and become the champion that he is. You said 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.959 he hasn't learned his lesson, but apparently he learned not 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.280 to take a year analysis. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.000 Yeah, really good point, Nancy. So he learnt the law here, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.919 or maybe how to avoid the law. He knew not 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:51.720 to take that test. And you gotta ask why this 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:56.320 is not a dumb person. I've met Tiger, I've interviewed him. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.360 He's a very very smart person who has worked extremely 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.920 hard to get where he is. But he's also too 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.440 riddled with demons and he's never ever really dealt with them, 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.840 and it feels crisis after a crisis, he just picks 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.199 himself up and moves on. Maybe this time will be 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.800 the final warning. However, my experience with celebrity is that 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.679 it won't be. Nancy, We're going to be talking about 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:24.119 this again, I fear sooner than later. 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:26.320 Well, I get a lot of my sports news from 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:31.760 Dave Portnoy at Barstool Sports. Portnoy is tearing into Woods 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:36.200 and demanding he go to jail. Quote, you're gonna kill somebody. 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:42.399 So here's my next question to you, Rob Shooter. Have 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.760 you noticed how the media and the public turn a 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:53.920 blind eye to Tiger Woods, But if it's someone let's 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:59.879 just say Britney Spears, for instance, they go hog why 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.160 trying to crucify her? And I'm not saying she should 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:08.399 get special treatment. I'm saying I see a difference in 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:11.880 the way she's treated and the way he's treated. 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.560 There's no doubt, Nancy, it's a double standard here. Is 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.360 it because he's a sports star rather than being a potician? 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.480 Is it because he's a man rather than being a woman. 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.640 I don't know if I know the answer to that, 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.600 but I do agree with you, Nancy the recent ower. 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.960 I'm just a trial lawyer. You're the pr guru. You're 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.159 the one with the number one book on Amazon. It 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:40.800 started with a whisper. Don't pontificate and throw the question 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.400 back at me. I want an answer. You know the answer. 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.920 What is the answer? Why is he treated with kig 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.120 gloves and she's thrown under the bus. 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.720 I think it's because it's easier to punch Britney Spears. 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:59.200 Britney is out there, more sloppy, more messy. She posts 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.560 these videos. Tiger is a very private person. So I 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.280 think with Tiger, he's managed to keep this illusion that 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.800 he's still the guy that we want him to be. 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.000 Were in reality, we now know that is not the case. 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:17.760 You're right, she is being vilified because she dresses the 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:21.400 way she does and puts videos of herself buck naked 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:26.919 twirling around on Instant while he remains dignified out of 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.840 his gourge at home on the sofa. He's a man, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.800 she's a woman, she's a mother. It goes back to 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.200 doctor Bethany Marshall, the whole Madonna horror thing. 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.920 It's heartbreaking, Sorry, Bethany. 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.440 So I'm spoonfeeding you here, shooter. How did your book 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.679 get to number one on Amazon? When I'm having to 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:51.000 spoon feed you? What the difference is? She wears a 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.320 cameousol that falls off when she dances. He stays behind 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:58.240 closed doors on his sofa, high as a kite, I mean, 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:03.359 really with endlessly when Britney spears and this is bad, 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:06.640 drives over the center lane and then like three seconds later, 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:12.200 here comes a car. We don't see all those videos 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:17.240 and pictures of Tiger Woods crash into a fixed object. 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.280 For Pete's sake, really, and all the places you can go, 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.920 you crash into a fixed object. Now we've got him 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:28.639 passing a big truck dragging a vehicle behind him. What 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:30.880 if that had had a roll over and all those 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.840 people died. Do you think about that shooter? 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:36.440 I do, I do, Nancy, we're agreeing on this here. 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.639 I think I've I've made these points. Says, there's lots 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.120 lots of factors. He is a man, and I think 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.800 too that he keeps his private life private. Brittany is 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.920 much more out there. Brittany is somebody who enjoys the spotlight. 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.920 She enjoys social media. He does not. If you try 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.760 to follow him on social media, good luck. He doesn't 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.240 pose a lot of stuff. He posts very, very carefully 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.359 curated photographs, normally of him on a golf course, always 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.919 with children, always looking respectable. So the image he's putting 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:08.119 out to the world is the one he wants us 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.960 to believe. And we have, Nancy, we believe these photographs 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.880 we're seeing. They're partially true, they're not lies. That's part 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:18.879 of his life. But he also too has an incredible, messy, 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.960 sloppy part of his life, of his history, and that 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:26.280 he doesn't want us to talk about. However, now, because 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.480 of what's happened, it's the only thing we're going to 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.520 be talking about. It doesn't matter how many of these beautiful, 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:34.199 beautiful shots he puts up. Now we're going to be 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:38.200 talking about what is really going on and how did 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:39.680 he fool us for so long? 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.760 Well, I haven't been for since day one. 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:47.760 You love to day one you said you loved him, Nancy. 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:51.920 I do, but I don't like it. I don't love 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:57.720 Tiger Woods, but I don't love vehicular homicides in any 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.880 in any other jurisdy. This would be what we call 0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:07.680 an HV habitual violator. And there is no way when 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:13.800 I prosecuted that an HV walked free, because an HV 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:18.600 means that you've had DUI's driving offenses time after time 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.800 after time after time, and you've always walked free. But 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.040 then when you're charged with HV habitual violator, you're not 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.000 walking free again. Now Portnoy's saying it, I'm saying it. 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:34.119 Why is he not behind bars? And it pains me. 0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.480 I wanted to see his big comeback at the Masters. 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:41.040 I wanted him to succeed to overcome everything that has 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:45.240 happened to him with all the public support, he does 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.800 it again. Could you explain another thing to me, Rob Shooter? 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:54.600 Why is Tiger Woods set to profit you? Heard me right, 0:23:55.000 --> 0:24:02.280 profit from the Dui arrest because fans are clamoring. They're 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:07.160 fighting to buy the Polo shirt he was wearing when 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:13.520 he flipped his suv and nearly caused a vehicular homicide. 0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:15.840 Why do they want the shirt? 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.479 It's horrific. We see this with popstars too, and when 0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.679 they're get in trouble, their music charts, when they do 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:27.000 something awful, their t shirts sell. And so he's a brand, Nancy. 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:30.000 He's not just a golfer. He's one of the first 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.960 billionaires in the business of sports, and he got there 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:38.080 by being an incredible marketer. You can buy so many 0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.679 of his products. I went on eBay this morning and 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:44.880 checked and that his stuff has absolutely spiked. The clothes 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:47.520 that he wears now people want. I think they want 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.160 to support him. I think people want to support him. 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.080 I also think too, this is a way of people 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.080 not believing what's in front of their very eyes. It's 0:24:56.160 --> 0:25:00.800 really hard to get people to get angry shooter. 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:03.920 Did you buy one of the shirts? 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:05.600 I did not see none. 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:11.320 His clothing brand is sun Day Red, and it is 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:15.919 the shirt is sold out. Let's see the mugshot he 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:19.040 is wearing one of his branded shirts. It's one hundred 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.040 and twenty five dollars. I sound like a commercial. It's 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.199 a distinctive blue polo shirt. He was wearing it at 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.639 the time of his DUI arrest, and it has sold 0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:31.159 out after all of his flans. Fans flocked to his 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:35.520 website to get the item of clothing. Now, I want 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:39.480 to I want you Rob Shooter to hear this from 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.400 the Martin County Sheriff. 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.240 As he was trying to move to the side of 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:49.320 the road. Our investigation reveal as follows. Shortly, our investigation 0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:54.560 revealed as follows shortly again before too the pressure cleaner 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.480 truck truck pulling a trailer or a small trailer was 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:02.600 northbound on South Beach Road and was pulling kind of 0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.280 to turn into a driveway. It was slowing down starting 0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.639 to turn into a driveway, and the driver of that 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.320 vehicle looked in his mirror and saw a land Rover, 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.480