Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, fifteen times Major Golf Championship,
Speaker 1: The Works, the PGA, Pebble Beach, The Masters, Tiger Woods arrest.
Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to
Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Tiger Woods and the Can,
Speaker 1: the Pokey, the big House. That's right, golf legend. Tiger
Speaker 1: Woods arrest straight out to Dave Matt Crime Stories investigative reporter.
Speaker 1: What this time?
Speaker 2: Nancy Friday afternoon, around two o'clock, Tiger Woods is driving
Speaker 2: his Range Drover near his home on Jupiter Island, Florida.
Speaker 2: He's on a small two lane road and he decides
Speaker 2: to pass a truck carrying a trick. As he goes
Speaker 2: to speed up to get around the trailer, he clips
Speaker 2: it on the back, causing his Range Rover to flip
Speaker 2: on its side and slide. Tiger climbs out of the
Speaker 2: passenger side window, and of course police are called and
Speaker 2: he appeared disheveled, not able to really make a lot
Speaker 2: of sense. But you know they didn't smell alcohol in
Speaker 2: his breath.
Speaker 1: Nancy Tiger Woods golf ledgen now facing a legal dog
Speaker 1: fight against Florida prosecutors. Will they quote make an example
Speaker 1: out of him. What really happened? This is what I
Speaker 1: do know. I do know, and correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: Dave Mac. He refused a year analysis. Law enforcement came
Speaker 1: to the scene, believe and state in police reports they
Speaker 1: believed that he was under the influence, not of alcohol,
Speaker 1: but some sort of drug, be it prescribed or not.
Speaker 1: Isn't that true?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he did take a breath. I want to know
Speaker 2: that he took a breathalyzer test and blew zero point
Speaker 2: zero zero. That is why after a roadside limited sobriety test,
Speaker 2: detectives determined he was under the influence of something. But
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods refuses to do the blood test. In Florida,
Speaker 2: that's a misdemeanor. So he gets a charge for not
Speaker 2: taking the blood test, and they are charging him with
Speaker 2: driving under the influence for failing at the roadside sobriety checkpoint.
Speaker 1: Dave mac, I believe he refused to give a urine
Speaker 1: sample twice. But you're right, he refused it on the roadside,
Speaker 1: and he refused it at the jail. That in itself
Speaker 1: is an infraction of your driving privileges. Here's my concern.
Speaker 1: I love Tiger Woods. I always root for Tiger Woods.
Speaker 1: I can never get the image of him coming up
Speaker 1: on the last hole. He'll be wearing a red shirt.
Speaker 1: His dad in life would be wearing a red shirt
Speaker 1: and they would meet, and the dad would walk the
Speaker 1: course with him. Remember that. That has always been in
Speaker 1: my mind. And I remember distinctly his first golf competition
Speaker 1: after his father had passed away. He walked up the
Speaker 1: hill and there was no dad, and I and every
Speaker 1: other commentator noticed it. It's very much etched into everyone's mind.
Speaker 1: He is in media darling. Everybody loves Tiger Woods. But
Speaker 1: this is what I cannot ignore. Let's see his history.
Speaker 1: Put it up. This is by far not the first
Speaker 1: time Tiger Woods has had a let me just say,
Speaker 1: that's not his driving history. Put up his driving history.
Speaker 1: I can only vamp along waiting for you to push
Speaker 1: the right button. This is not by far his first
Speaker 1: driving infraction, and that is certainly a euphemism. Two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine. These are the ones we know of the
Speaker 1: fire hydrant crash. He collided with a fire hydrant and
Speaker 1: a tree after leaving his own home. Can't get away
Speaker 1: from that. DUI number one asleep behind the wheel, driving
Speaker 1: under the influence doesn't refer just to alcohol. It's the
Speaker 1: influence of drugs or alcohol. Twenty twenty one eighty seven
Speaker 1: miles an hour, and what I recall off the top
Speaker 1: of my head was a forty five mph zone in
Speaker 1: that case. To doctor Kendall Crown's joining US renowned medical
Speaker 1: examiner out of Terrance County, that's fort worth ever a
Speaker 1: lack of business at the Morgue. He is an esteemed
Speaker 1: lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU, and
Speaker 1: he is the star of Mayhem in the Morgue A
Speaker 1: hit podcast Dodger Kendall Crowns, do you recall what happened
Speaker 1: to Tiger's leg? Tiger Woods's leg in that incident? He
Speaker 1: was this close to having his leg amputated.
Speaker 3: Why so, in that one he had massive fracturing of
Speaker 3: I believe is to be amphibula that actually ended up
Speaker 3: having to be have a rod put in place, which
Speaker 3: means these fractures were so severe that the bones were
Speaker 3: not connecting anymore, or a compound type fracture, which if
Speaker 3: you pushed that a little bit further, you the muscle
Speaker 3: and the skin are the only thing holding the leg
Speaker 3: into place. So potentially his leg could have been completely
Speaker 3: ripped off in that accident and he had to have
Speaker 3: significant surgery to repair it.
Speaker 1: Okay, a year going too fast for as mirror mortals.
Speaker 1: Can you take it more slowly and explain to me
Speaker 1: why tiger woods and he has said this, that's where
Speaker 1: I'm getting it. This close to having his leg amputated.
Speaker 1: I mean, that would have taught me stay away from
Speaker 1: the drugs and the alcohol, but it didn't. Okay, slow
Speaker 1: it down for us and explain what happened in that incident.
Speaker 3: So in that incident, he had what is called a
Speaker 3: compound fracture of his tibianphibula, which are the two bones
Speaker 3: in your lower leg, and a compound fracture means they're
Speaker 3: completely separated off of each other instead of being close
Speaker 3: to one another. So they had to use rods to
Speaker 3: repair it. But the problem is is when you get
Speaker 3: those compound type fractures, all that's keeping your leg together
Speaker 3: is your skin and muscle and your vascular and those
Speaker 3: if those get torn even further, your leg completely comes off.
Speaker 3: Because really your bones are what's keeping your leg together,
Speaker 3: and once those are fractured in displaced, the only thing
Speaker 3: left keeping it together is your skin and muscle, and
Speaker 3: it doesn't take much force to rip those apart. So
Speaker 3: he was really close to having an amputation at that moment.
Speaker 1: Doctor Kendall Crowns, this reminds me of the oj Simpson
Speaker 1: murder trial where Nicole Brown's head was only still attached
Speaker 1: to her neck because of the little bit of skin
Speaker 1: in the back her. Everything, the bone, the muscle, the
Speaker 1: everything was severed. And you're telling me in this case
Speaker 1: with Tiger Woods, it was just the skin and the
Speaker 1: blood vessels holding his leg on his body and the muscle.
Speaker 3: Yes, more likely than not, that's why all that was
Speaker 3: keeping him intact, because the bones were completely fractured.
Speaker 1: Golf legend Tiger Woods arrest for a car crash in Florida, East,
Speaker 1: the fourth auto related incident of his the second in
Speaker 1: which he's charged with duy and duy is drugs or alcohol.
Speaker 1: According to the police report, he showed size of impairment
Speaker 1: and was arrested there. At the scene, he struck another
Speaker 1: vehicle he was trying to pass, not just a vehicle,
Speaker 1: but a vehicle dragging a vehicle behind it. His land
Speaker 1: rover rolls over and he's not far from home, as
Speaker 1: was the case in a prior incident. He did a breathalyzer,
Speaker 1: it's negative. He refused a urine test. Why why refuse
Speaker 1: the urine test? He refused to submit to a lawful test.
Speaker 1: That is a misdemeanor. Now, back in twoenty seventeen, that's
Speaker 1: when he has found asleep at the wheel, engine running
Speaker 1: in a traffic lane, damage to the driver's side. At
Speaker 1: that time, he stated he had taken a mix of
Speaker 1: prescription painkillers. He said he had a bad reaction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that bad reaction was he fell asleep at the wheel
Speaker 1: and hit something. Nobody really knows what, So Dave Matt
Speaker 1: was that his first driving infraction that we know of.
Speaker 2: Well, the two thousand and nine infraction is the first
Speaker 2: one we know of Nancy, and that was the fire
Speaker 2: hydrant collision at two thirty in the morning. That's with
Speaker 2: his first wife. You know, El catches him outside and
Speaker 2: has to beat the back window in with the golf club.
Speaker 2: This was right outside the house when that actually happened,
Speaker 2: and he had a bloody lip, blood in his mouth.
Speaker 2: The next one was twenty seventeen and Nancy that crashed
Speaker 2: there that DUI in twenty seventeen. He had Tiger Woods,
Speaker 2: had a lot of medication in his system, a lot
Speaker 2: of different types of medication, including vicodin, dilauded, xan x,
Speaker 2: ambient anti marijuana. I'm sure that.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Dave Matt, don't just
Speaker 1: roll it off. Okay, you said vicodin, delauded, I heard pot.
Speaker 1: Was there pot in his system?
Speaker 4: Yeah? There was?
Speaker 2: Okay, what else vikod in, dilauded, xanax, and ambient beyond
Speaker 2: the pie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all at the same.
Speaker 1: Time Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
Speaker 2: Vikod in, dilauded, xanax, and ambient beyond the pie.
Speaker 1: To doctor Kendall Crowns, could you explain which each of
Speaker 1: those substance are?
Speaker 3: Certainly so, Vicodin is, hydrocodone and acetamenifen together, hydrocodone being
Speaker 3: an opioid, cetamenoven being like tylanol or an analgesic. Delauded
Speaker 3: is also known as hydromorphone. Again, it's another one in
Speaker 3: the opioid category, which would go along with the hydro codone.
Speaker 3: Xanax is an anti anxiety drug that's a benzodiazepine also
Speaker 3: known as alpas lamb. So it kind of sedates you
Speaker 3: and then of course ambient is used for insomnia. All
Speaker 3: four of these medications together would be a very bad
Speaker 3: mixture that we see in drug overdose is quite common
Speaker 3: and it's not something that you want to mix a
Speaker 3: put together or mix commonly because you can easily overdose.
Speaker 3: And what they usually do is cause drowsiness or sleepiness,
Speaker 3: which would cause him to crash his car.
Speaker 1: Straight out to doctor Bethany Marshall, joining us renowned psychoanalyst.
Speaker 1: She's the author deal Breakers. You can see her now
Speaker 1: on Bravo and Peacock and find her at doctor Bethanymarshall
Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Bethany, that's a lot of drugs, some prescribed,
Speaker 1: some illegal. What do you make of it?
Speaker 5: Well, I have so many thoughts about this. One of
Speaker 5: the things we see with athletes is that they have
Speaker 5: a lot of injuries over time, and because of that,
Speaker 5: they might be prescribed opiates, which then begins the process
Speaker 5: of an addiction. People can become addicted to opiates very easily,
Speaker 5: and the benzodiazepines, like the ambient. Often with opiates there's
Speaker 5: a nodding off quality, like there'll be a wake one
Speaker 5: minute and they will just nod out, okay. So in
Speaker 5: the two thousand and nine DUI was fascinating as I
Speaker 5: covered that with you, Nancy. I remember being in the
Speaker 5: waiting room or the green room at CNN and all
Speaker 5: of Tiger Wood's girlfriends were coming in, so I was
Speaker 5: able to hear all the Pine Scenes stories from them.
Speaker 5: But what was clear was he took Ambient at two
Speaker 5: thousand and nine, fell asleep, his phone kept blowing up.
Speaker 5: Elin Nordegren looked in the phone and saw that they
Speaker 5: were all these girls. She grabs one of his golf clubs.
Speaker 5: I don't think she hit him with it, but she
Speaker 5: grabbed him, woke him up. He ran out the door
Speaker 5: on Ambient, climbed into a golf cart and hit a tree.
Speaker 5: So you already have you know the benzos in his system,
Speaker 5: poor judgment, impulsivity, and then you see the next one.
Speaker 5: He just kind of nods off in the car. By
Speaker 5: the third time where he almost had to have his
Speaker 5: leg amputated, he's really escalating in his behavior. And I
Speaker 5: think the layering on of all these medications, my guess
Speaker 5: is that he would take one doesn't feel high enough,
Speaker 5: and then would then add another one in still doesn't
Speaker 5: have the desired effect. If you've ever heard of the
Speaker 5: term chasing that first high, it's the term when people
Speaker 5: suffering from substance use disorders tried to create that initial
Speaker 5: euphoric effect when they first take a drug, and that's
Speaker 5: why they take more and more and eventually. I think
Speaker 5: what doctor Kendall Crown's is referring to in terms of
Speaker 5: a du in terms of overdoses, I call it pulling
Speaker 5: a heath Ledger, because pretty much your breathing is suppressed
Speaker 5: and you just drift out, drift out of this world,
Speaker 5: and then that's it. And so at this point he's
Speaker 5: kind of lost a sense of where he is, who
Speaker 5: he is, how much he has taken. I guess he's
Speaker 5: just sober enough to say he wants to refuse the
Speaker 5: ur analysis, but he's definitely extremely impaired.
Speaker 1: You know, remember doctor Bethany after the incident in twenty
Speaker 1: one where he shattered his leg. He had to have
Speaker 1: a hospital bed put in his home and he was
Speaker 1: completely immobilized for three months. I think that would have
Speaker 1: taught most people stay away from the booze and the drugs.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, his leg had been shattered and
Speaker 1: that the pain must have been intense, and it's probably
Speaker 1: ongoing forever for the rest of his life.
Speaker 5: Yet I'm thinking that what might have happened is we
Speaker 5: don't know of any rehabs or I haven't heard of
Speaker 5: any or any kind of treatment he's interest.
Speaker 1: But in twenty seventeen he went into a drug addiction facility. Dr.
Speaker 1: Bethany twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5: Well, good for him, But in that drug addiction facility,
Speaker 5: you know, if his leg was almost amputated, they would
Speaker 5: have to prescribe opiate's pain medication, maybe morphine. So perhaps
Speaker 5: paradoxically the accident re addicted him by reintroducing him to
Speaker 5: these kinds of pain medications. Oh, these substances act on
Speaker 5: the reward centers of the brain, which becomes a powerful
Speaker 5: motivator for taking more and more and more substances until
Speaker 5: the person is completely addicted.
Speaker 1: Joining us now out of New York p R guru
Speaker 1: to the Stars and Celebrities, Rob Shooter. He is also
Speaker 1: the author of a brand new book, It Started with
Speaker 1: a Whisper, that is now number one on the Amazon
Speaker 1: charts for new releases. You can find him at Robshooter
Speaker 1: dot substat dot com. Rob if and when will the
Speaker 1: public get fed up with second chances for Tiger Woods.
Speaker 4: When I think he's happening, Nancu, I really do think
Speaker 4: it's happening. There's an epidemic of drugs of substance abuse
Speaker 4: amongst the rich and the famous and the powerful. And
Speaker 4: what the sad story here is that not only has
Speaker 4: Tiger not learned his lesson, he's continuing to put other
Speaker 4: people at risk here. If he wants to do drugs
Speaker 4: and stay home and pass out, up to him, he
Speaker 4: can live that life. He's got plenty of money. He
Speaker 4: doesn't need to worry about going to work tomorrow. However,
Speaker 4: to get in the car, to drive on public streets,
Speaker 4: to put other people at this danger is so galling
Speaker 4: to me, is so wrong to me. And I think
Speaker 4: that's what the public is going to get sick of,
Speaker 4: not Tiger. If he wants to kill himself, if he
Speaker 4: wants to mess with his own life, that's up to him. However,
Speaker 4: he can't take us down with him. That's what's going
Speaker 4: to stick.
Speaker 1: He is a media darling. Everyone has a soft spot
Speaker 1: in their heart for Tiger Woods. We've watched him grow
Speaker 1: up and become the champion that he is. You said
Speaker 1: he hasn't learned his lesson, but apparently he learned not
Speaker 1: to take a year analysis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really good point, Nancy. So he learnt the law here,
Speaker 4: or maybe how to avoid the law. He knew not
Speaker 4: to take that test. And you gotta ask why this
Speaker 4: is not a dumb person. I've met Tiger, I've interviewed him.
Speaker 4: He's a very very smart person who has worked extremely
Speaker 4: hard to get where he is. But he's also too
Speaker 4: riddled with demons and he's never ever really dealt with them,
Speaker 4: and it feels crisis after a crisis, he just picks
Speaker 4: himself up and moves on. Maybe this time will be
Speaker 4: the final warning. However, my experience with celebrity is that
Speaker 4: it won't be. Nancy, We're going to be talking about
Speaker 4: this again, I fear sooner than later.
Speaker 1: Well, I get a lot of my sports news from
Speaker 1: Dave Portnoy at Barstool Sports. Portnoy is tearing into Woods
Speaker 1: and demanding he go to jail. Quote, you're gonna kill somebody.
Speaker 1: So here's my next question to you, Rob Shooter. Have
Speaker 1: you noticed how the media and the public turn a
Speaker 1: blind eye to Tiger Woods, But if it's someone let's
Speaker 1: just say Britney Spears, for instance, they go hog why
Speaker 1: trying to crucify her? And I'm not saying she should
Speaker 1: get special treatment. I'm saying I see a difference in
Speaker 1: the way she's treated and the way he's treated.
Speaker 4: There's no doubt, Nancy, it's a double standard here. Is
Speaker 4: it because he's a sports star rather than being a potician?
Speaker 4: Is it because he's a man rather than being a woman.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I know the answer to that,
Speaker 4: but I do agree with you, Nancy the recent ower.
Speaker 1: I'm just a trial lawyer. You're the pr guru. You're
Speaker 1: the one with the number one book on Amazon. It
Speaker 1: started with a whisper. Don't pontificate and throw the question
Speaker 1: back at me. I want an answer. You know the answer.
Speaker 1: What is the answer? Why is he treated with kig
Speaker 1: gloves and she's thrown under the bus.
Speaker 4: I think it's because it's easier to punch Britney Spears.
Speaker 4: Britney is out there, more sloppy, more messy. She posts
Speaker 4: these videos. Tiger is a very private person. So I
Speaker 4: think with Tiger, he's managed to keep this illusion that
Speaker 4: he's still the guy that we want him to be.
Speaker 4: Were in reality, we now know that is not the case.
Speaker 1: You're right, she is being vilified because she dresses the
Speaker 1: way she does and puts videos of herself buck naked
Speaker 1: twirling around on Instant while he remains dignified out of
Speaker 1: his gourge at home on the sofa. He's a man,
Speaker 1: she's a woman, she's a mother. It goes back to
Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall, the whole Madonna horror thing.
Speaker 4: It's heartbreaking, Sorry, Bethany.
Speaker 1: So I'm spoonfeeding you here, shooter. How did your book
Speaker 1: get to number one on Amazon? When I'm having to
Speaker 1: spoon feed you? What the difference is? She wears a
Speaker 1: cameousol that falls off when she dances. He stays behind
Speaker 1: closed doors on his sofa, high as a kite, I mean,
Speaker 1: really with endlessly when Britney spears and this is bad,
Speaker 1: drives over the center lane and then like three seconds later,
Speaker 1: here comes a car. We don't see all those videos
Speaker 1: and pictures of Tiger Woods crash into a fixed object.
Speaker 1: For Pete's sake, really, and all the places you can go,
Speaker 1: you crash into a fixed object. Now we've got him
Speaker 1: passing a big truck dragging a vehicle behind him. What
Speaker 1: if that had had a roll over and all those
Speaker 1: people died. Do you think about that shooter?
Speaker 4: I do, I do, Nancy, we're agreeing on this here.
Speaker 4: I think I've I've made these points. Says, there's lots
Speaker 4: lots of factors. He is a man, and I think
Speaker 4: too that he keeps his private life private. Brittany is
Speaker 4: much more out there. Brittany is somebody who enjoys the spotlight.
Speaker 4: She enjoys social media. He does not. If you try
Speaker 4: to follow him on social media, good luck. He doesn't
Speaker 4: pose a lot of stuff. He posts very, very carefully
Speaker 4: curated photographs, normally of him on a golf course, always
Speaker 4: with children, always looking respectable. So the image he's putting
Speaker 4: out to the world is the one he wants us
Speaker 4: to believe. And we have, Nancy, we believe these photographs
Speaker 4: we're seeing. They're partially true, they're not lies. That's part
Speaker 4: of his life. But he also too has an incredible, messy,
Speaker 4: sloppy part of his life, of his history, and that
Speaker 4: he doesn't want us to talk about. However, now, because
Speaker 4: of what's happened, it's the only thing we're going to
Speaker 4: be talking about. It doesn't matter how many of these beautiful,
Speaker 4: beautiful shots he puts up. Now we're going to be
Speaker 4: talking about what is really going on and how did
Speaker 4: he fool us for so long?
Speaker 1: Well, I haven't been for since day one.
Speaker 4: You love to day one you said you loved him, Nancy.
Speaker 1: I do, but I don't like it. I don't love
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, but I don't love vehicular homicides in any
Speaker 1: in any other jurisdy. This would be what we call
Speaker 1: an HV habitual violator. And there is no way when
Speaker 1: I prosecuted that an HV walked free, because an HV
Speaker 1: means that you've had DUI's driving offenses time after time
Speaker 1: after time after time, and you've always walked free. But
Speaker 1: then when you're charged with HV habitual violator, you're not
Speaker 1: walking free again. Now Portnoy's saying it, I'm saying it.
Speaker 1: Why is he not behind bars? And it pains me.
Speaker 1: I wanted to see his big comeback at the Masters.
Speaker 1: I wanted him to succeed to overcome everything that has
Speaker 1: happened to him with all the public support, he does
Speaker 1: it again. Could you explain another thing to me, Rob Shooter?
Speaker 1: Why is Tiger Woods set to profit you? Heard me right,
Speaker 1: profit from the Dui arrest because fans are clamoring. They're
Speaker 1: fighting to buy the Polo shirt he was wearing when
Speaker 1: he flipped his suv and nearly caused a vehicular homicide.
Speaker 1: Why do they want the shirt?
Speaker 4: It's horrific. We see this with popstars too, and when
Speaker 4: they're get in trouble, their music charts, when they do
Speaker 4: something awful, their t shirts sell. And so he's a brand, Nancy.
Speaker 4: He's not just a golfer. He's one of the first
Speaker 4: billionaires in the business of sports, and he got there
Speaker 4: by being an incredible marketer. You can buy so many
Speaker 4: of his products. I went on eBay this morning and
Speaker 4: checked and that his stuff has absolutely spiked. The clothes
Speaker 4: that he wears now people want. I think they want
Speaker 4: to support him. I think people want to support him.
Speaker 4: I also think too, this is a way of people
Speaker 4: not believing what's in front of their very eyes. It's
Speaker 4: really hard to get people to get angry shooter.
Speaker 1: Did you buy one of the shirts?
Speaker 4: I did not see none.
Speaker 1: His clothing brand is sun Day Red, and it is
Speaker 1: the shirt is sold out. Let's see the mugshot he
Speaker 1: is wearing one of his branded shirts. It's one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty five dollars. I sound like a commercial. It's
Speaker 1: a distinctive blue polo shirt. He was wearing it at
Speaker 1: the time of his DUI arrest, and it has sold
Speaker 1: out after all of his flans. Fans flocked to his
Speaker 1: website to get the item of clothing. Now, I want
Speaker 1: to I want you Rob Shooter to hear this from
Speaker 1: the Martin County Sheriff.
Speaker 6: As he was trying to move to the side of
Speaker 6: the road. Our investigation reveal as follows. Shortly, our investigation
Speaker 6: revealed as follows shortly again before too the pressure cleaner
Speaker 6: truck truck pulling a trailer or a small trailer was
Speaker 6: northbound on South Beach Road and was pulling kind of
Speaker 6: to turn into a driveway. It was slowing down starting
Speaker 6: to turn into a driveway, and the driver of that
Speaker 6: vehicle looked in his mirror and saw a land Rover,
Speaker 6: dark colored land Rover overtaken him at high speeds and
Speaker 6: I don't know those speeds. The land rover kept overtaking him.
Speaker 6: He saw it coming, so he tried to edge off
Speaker 6: to the side of the road. But this is a
Speaker 6: small two lane road and there was no shoulder for
Speaker 6: this pressure cleaner gentleman to get off the side of
Speaker 6: the road.
Speaker 1: So Woods is essentially driving the vehicle off the side
Speaker 1: of the road. Listen to more.
Speaker 6: As he was trying to move to the side of
Speaker 6: the road, the land rover overtook him at the last minute,
Speaker 6: swerved to avoid a collision, but clipped the back end
Speaker 6: of the trailer of the pressure cleaner apparatus, listed to
Speaker 6: the side, and then rolled on the driver's door north
Speaker 6: past the truck that had just avoided the crack.
Speaker 1: The sheriff's doing it too. Did you hear that shooter? Oh,
Speaker 1: he just clipped it. He rear ended it. It was
Speaker 1: a big wreck. That makes it sound so innocuous, I know, But.
Speaker 4: That sheriff would not talk about you or me like that. Nancy.
Speaker 4: It's a different justice for people that are rich and famous.
Speaker 4: I do get it. I've been starstruck. I've met people
Speaker 4: that I really wanted to like that. I think I
Speaker 4: know because I've seen them on television or maybe on stage,
Speaker 4: and so it's real, Nancy. It's definitely real out there.
Speaker 4: People get starstruck, and they give people the benefit of
Speaker 4: the doubts. But if anybody else had done what Tiger
Speaker 4: has done repeatedly, they would not they would not be
Speaker 4: in the same position as him today. And so maybe finally,
Speaker 4: if there's enough outrage here, maybe things will change. I'm
Speaker 4: not convinced. What do you think, shooter.
Speaker 1: I could listen to you go on and on and
Speaker 1: on about all your famous clients, how awesome they are,
Speaker 1: and how you're so starstruck. Have you ever attended a
Speaker 1: DUI crash autopsy, shooter, because that might that might just
Speaker 1: change your mind about your starstruck.
Speaker 4: I haven't, I'd say I haven't.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe you should, and maybe Tiger Woods should. Here's
Speaker 1: the sheriff.
Speaker 6: The individual driving that land rover was able to crawl
Speaker 6: out the passenger drawer of the car and was identified
Speaker 6: to be mister Tiger Woods. Our DUI investigators came to
Speaker 6: the scene here and mister Woods did exemplify signs of impairment.
Speaker 6: They did several tests on him. Of course, he did
Speaker 6: explain the injuries and the surgers that he had. We
Speaker 6: did take that into account, but they did do some
Speaker 6: in depth roadside tests and when it was determined he
Speaker 6: was placed under arrest and taken to the Martin County jail.
Speaker 1: And here's another kawinki dink. There have been instances where
Speaker 1: even though Tiger Woods has gone to the hospital, nobody
Speaker 1: did a blood test. Never heard of that before. But
Speaker 1: I want you to hear what else. The sheriff said,
Speaker 1: Can I give you a general idea of how fast?
Speaker 6: And the answer is I can't, but I can tell
Speaker 6: you this. It's a thirty minine hour speed limit. And
Speaker 6: when I show you the photos, they kind of speak
Speaker 6: for themselves. You can see where he clipped the back
Speaker 6: of the trailer, you can see where he rolled, and
Speaker 6: then as he decelerates, sliding down on the driver's door
Speaker 6: of the vehicle, you can see that he slid for
Speaker 6: a pretty decent space before he came to.
Speaker 1: A stock I have never had a case like this
Speaker 1: where an accident reconstructionist or a member of law enforcement
Speaker 1: robshooter cannot tell me how fast they estimate the purp
Speaker 1: is driving. But now it's so mysterious. Nobody can tell
Speaker 1: me how fast they think Woods was driving. You want
Speaker 1: to tell me that that big honking suv he was
Speaker 1: driving doesn't have a black box, doesn't have a nav
Speaker 1: system to tell me how fast he was driving.
Speaker 4: It does it does not say it absolutely does, and
Speaker 4: so we have to ask him what is going on
Speaker 4: and is there a different level of justice for famous people.
Speaker 4: I think the answer is an obvious, obvious Yes. It's
Speaker 4: very easy here to get angry with Tiger Wood, and
Speaker 4: we should be, but we should also be really angry
Speaker 4: with the system that is allowing him because of his fame,
Speaker 4: because it's allowing him to get away with it. Nancy,
Speaker 4: it really is. Why else would he be getting away
Speaker 4: with this. He's not getting away with it because he
Speaker 4: gets caught and held accountable. He keeps getting away with it,
Speaker 4: and we have to ask why.
Speaker 1: What's your advice to words tonight.
Speaker 4: You need to get to rehab. You need to get serious,
Speaker 4: you need to say sorry, you need to own this,
Speaker 4: and you need to get from behind that car. He
Speaker 4: has plenty of money, hire a driver. Never ever get
Speaker 4: in a car again. You're not trustworthy, you know, shooter.
Speaker 1: This reminds me also of they were known a writer case.
Speaker 1: I love her, remember when she shotlifted and instead of
Speaker 1: saying okay, you know what I did it? Why did
Speaker 1: I do it? I don't No, I've got a problem.
Speaker 1: I've got money I could pay for this, but I
Speaker 1: did it, and for all of you girls that look
Speaker 1: up to me, don't do this. But instead she gets
Speaker 1: the best lawyer she can find, Mark Geargos, and they
Speaker 1: go to trial and she's proven to be a liar
Speaker 1: and it nearly ruined her career. So here, I think,
Speaker 1: and I'm certainly not a pr guru to the stars
Speaker 1: like you, Rob Shooter, but I think he needs to
Speaker 1: say yes, I did it, punish me. I want to
Speaker 1: change my life, and I don't want all of my
Speaker 1: fans to emulate me.
Speaker 4: It's always the best response sown up towards if you
Speaker 4: did it. I believe he did do it. It's hard
Speaker 4: for me to imagine how he's going to talk himself
Speaker 4: out of this. If you did it, the evidence is there,
Speaker 4: admit it, apologize and make sure you don't do it again.
Speaker 4: It's not that hard. What he's hard is that human
Speaker 4: beings are involved, egos are involved, money is involved. He's
Speaker 4: getting freshing down from the companies that he owns. And
Speaker 4: I predict Nancy that he won't do the right thing,
Speaker 4: that he will fight this and maybe he will be
Speaker 4: proven to be a liar.
Speaker 1: I would override Rob Sheeter author of number one best
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Speaker 1: Troy Slayton joining us from the LA Jurisdiction renowned criminal attorney. Okay,
Speaker 1: you've had to defend a lot of DUI charges and
Speaker 1: you've been successful. What can you tell me beside deny,
Speaker 1: deny and delay delay delay.
Speaker 7: Well, I can tell you, Nancy, because I'm a certified
Speaker 7: standardized Field sobriety Test instructor, which means I have I'm
Speaker 7: certified by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration to teach
Speaker 7: police officers how to administer these tes, and so I
Speaker 7: can tell you that when the sheriff says that he
Speaker 7: admitted or that the officer in the field administered field
Speaker 7: sobriety tests roadside tests, that he called them, those have
Speaker 7: nothing to do with drugs. Those have only been scientifically
Speaker 7: validated as to alcohol. So the officers then asked them
Speaker 7: to do a roadside bread test and then a test
Speaker 7: back at the station triple zeros point zero zero blood
Speaker 7: alcohol and they suspected drugs. So at that point, if
Speaker 7: they believe that he's impaired by something, other than alcohol,
Speaker 7: they're allowed to ask.
Speaker 4: For a test of his blood or breath. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry of his blood or urine.
Speaker 7: In this case, they asked for urine and he refused
Speaker 7: it recently in two thousand. Last year, in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 7: in October, Florida passed a new law that made refusal
Speaker 7: of the urine test a crime in and of itself
Speaker 7: a misdemeanor. But that will be way less than being
Speaker 7: found guilty of dui drugs. So he may have done
Speaker 7: this strategically right thing that will will allow his lawyers
Speaker 7: to fight the dui charge.
Speaker 1: Troy, if you were defending this case, what would you do?
Speaker 1: What would you tell him to do right now?
Speaker 7: Well, I would tell him to possibly go to some
Speaker 7: AA or NA meetings. So that way, at his arraignment,
Speaker 7: which is going to happen in the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 7: he could show the court that he's not a danger
Speaker 7: that the bail should be set what it normally is
Speaker 7: in a first offense case. Now, you say, but Troy,
Speaker 7: he had a conviction in twenty seventeen. In Florida. There's
Speaker 7: only a five year look back as far as sentencing
Speaker 7: for DUI's in the state of Florida, it'll be considered
Speaker 7: a second on his criminal record. However, for sentencing purposes,
Speaker 7: this just be a first defense. So I would tell
Speaker 7: him to go to get some NA and AA meetings
Speaker 7: so that way it can look like he's doing something.
Speaker 7: But then his attorneys are going to file a motion
Speaker 7: to suppress evidence because he was held longer than the
Speaker 7: Florida statute allows, which is eight hours or until you
Speaker 7: blow below a point five, whichever comes first. They kept
Speaker 7: him for the full eight hours, which means that his
Speaker 7: detention at the police station may have been illegal. Therefore,
Speaker 7: any questions that he was asked anything any.
Speaker 1: Drug dragging a rig behind him off the road, he's
Speaker 1: obviously high and kit. He was not only behind bars
Speaker 1: for eight hours. And I'm hearing you want he had
Speaker 1: seven surgeries.
Speaker 7: Do you think and these surgeries were potentially failed back surgeries.
Speaker 7: Do you think someone is going to be able to
Speaker 7: do roadside gymnastics after seven failed back surgeries? You think
Speaker 7: that that might make somebody look lethargic.
Speaker 1: No, or I'm not asking him to do a backflip.
Speaker 1: I'm asking to take out his penis and tt into
Speaker 1: a cup you don't have to be Naughtia Komaniachi to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 7: There's there's a debate in Florida, in the Florida courts about.
Speaker 1: Whether beid tracking that question.
Speaker 7: No, I'm talking about urine, about having to pull out
Speaker 7: your pep, as you say in front of the police officers.
Speaker 1: I didn't say pepe. I said penis. Oh you said peep.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but go ahead in.
Speaker 7: Any event, Nancy. Uh, there's a debate in Florida whether
Speaker 7: or not there's a warrant requirement for a urine test,
Speaker 7: which is less intrusive than a blood test because they're
Speaker 7: not sticking needles into you. And Uh, it's it's less intrusive,
Speaker 7: it's more intrusive rather than a bread test. But in
Speaker 7: this case, I'm really curious about why the police officers,
Speaker 7: if they really suspected drugs, why didn't they get a
Speaker 7: warrant for his blood and then we would know the
Speaker 7: exact quantitative amounts that were in his system, because right
Speaker 7: now we have no idea what if any drugs.
Speaker 1: He had in his system then and there he is
Speaker 1: there lawyers, Why didn't they the police get a warrant
Speaker 1: for blood? It's their fault. Tiger Woods ran a rig
Speaker 1: off the road.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm just in it.
Speaker 7: I would could have done a better investigation here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's their fault. Good good luck without a trial.
Speaker 1: To doctor Bethany Marshall, we are now learning that one
Speaker 1: of the reasons Tiger Woods refuses to hire a driver,
Speaker 1: which he obviously can afford, is reportedly, he wants his privacy.
Speaker 1: He's not going to get much of that in the pokey.
Speaker 5: No he's not, Nancy, and I saw this pattern of
Speaker 5: low conscientiousness, plus being sneaky about skirting around the rules,
Speaker 5: which is what he did, low levels of conscientiousness and
Speaker 5: driving while intoxicated. However, refusing your analysis, I saw this
Speaker 5: in talking to the many women that he had affairs
Speaker 5: with back in two thousand and nine in the green
Speaker 5: room at CNN and HLN. One of the things that
Speaker 5: they all reported was that he would invite them over
Speaker 5: to his home or he would hang out with them,
Speaker 5: but he wouldn't spend any money on them because he
Speaker 5: didn't want any kind of a money trail that would
Speaker 5: tie him to them. And one woman said she spent
Speaker 5: the afternoon with him and she was so hungry. There
Speaker 5: was no food that she actually said, you need to
Speaker 5: order me a subway sandwich. She was so starved.
Speaker 8: So you could see the little level of conscientiousness and
Speaker 8: that he's having these affairs. But he's sneaky enough to
Speaker 8: get around the system by not spending any money.
Speaker 5: So it could be that this so called love of
Speaker 5: privacy is maybe another form of sneakiness or stealth where
Speaker 5: he hides his reputation or really the messy parts. You know, NaNs,
Speaker 5: we all have messy parts, right, but hopefully they're integrated
Speaker 5: enough into our everyday life that we let the people
Speaker 5: we love look at us and say, look, you need
Speaker 5: to get some help. But he has completely camouflaged it,
Speaker 5: and that's why we love him, or you everybody else
Speaker 5: on this panel. I don't know that much about him
Speaker 5: except that he appears lovable because he's handsome, he looks intact,
Speaker 5: and the privacy is a very strong barrier that keeps
Speaker 5: this messy part from leaking out.
Speaker 1: Back to doctor Kendall, Crowns is joining us out of
Speaker 1: Arrant County. You're looking at Vicodin xanax ambient delauded pot.
Speaker 1: How difficult is it? Doctor Kendall Crowns to kick an
Speaker 1: addiction to any of those medications.
Speaker 3: The problem is is his whatever he was taking them
Speaker 3: for the long term pain, etc. Has resulted in him
Speaker 3: feeling the need to have these drugs to even feel normal.
Speaker 3: So it could take a very lengthy time period week
Speaker 3: slash months to get past this addiction. And the problem
Speaker 3: is is because of his wealth and his fame, there's
Speaker 3: always going to be someone out there that's willing to
Speaker 3: find those drugs for them, or get those drugs and
Speaker 3: give them to them. So get kicking the habits going
Speaker 3: to be very difficult.
Speaker 1: The penalty for a first do UI imprisonment six months
Speaker 1: and a fine. First refusal to submit to a test
Speaker 1: sixty days and a fine. There's also penalty for property
Speaker 1: damage that depends on how much damage is done. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any way that a judge can treat
Speaker 1: this as a first DUI. We wait as justice unfolds,
Speaker 1: but will it Tonight? We remember an American hero officer,
Speaker 1: Terry Bennett Metropolitan PD DC, just thirty two, killed in
Speaker 1: the line of duty, leaving behind a wife now widow
Speaker 1: and children. Sentenced to life without dad. American hero officer
Speaker 1: Terry Bennett, Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend,