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Goodbye, friend, Keep the faith in 20 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: a community the size of about one hundred and fifty people. 21 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: How does a mom go missing, seemingly vanishing off the 22 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: face of the earth on a Sunday afternoon bike ride, 23 00:01:54,520 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: broad Delight. I'm talking about Suzanne Morphew Crime Stories with 24 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. I'm easy, Grace, this is crime stories. How 25 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: did she go missing? And Jackie? Is this significant to 26 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: you that she goes missing on Mother's Day? Now, yes, 27 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: that Sunday is not different from every other Sunday, Accept 28 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: that you celebrate moms. I always find it very let 29 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: me say, curious when someone goes missing or is killed 30 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: or Trasday befalls them on a particular holiday. It's kind 31 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: of a red flag you can't ignore. But let's go 32 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: to the source. Take a listen now to our friends 33 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: at CBS for Denver. Alan, Janette and she went biking 34 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday. They're in the mountains about twenty miles west 35 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: of Salida, Trevor, and and then there was nothing from her. 36 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Tell us what you do know, Alan, I'm I'm willing 37 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: to confirm that the bike was found on Sunday evening. 38 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: The bike was found on Sunday evening, the night that 39 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: she disappeared. And for more information, on the bike for 40 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: its condition. I would encourage you and everyone else to 41 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: contact the Chaffey County Sheriff's Department. Yeah, it has to 42 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: be disconcerting to know the bike has found. Sheriff has 43 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: said he does not believe that this was an animal, 44 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: and so all of Colorado has really ought to be 45 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: aware that there is a potential den Trevor, that she 46 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: might be somewhere well out of the county for all 47 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: we know, which is why we need to make sure 48 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: that we're aware of the situation. Okay, something is hank 49 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: you right there. Okay, it doesn't take a j D 50 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: to figure that out. Did you hear that, Jackie? The 51 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: way the nephew and why is the nephew speaking? Where's 52 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: the husband? Where's the children? But the nephew is speaking, 53 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: and the way he said it, he said, I'm willing 54 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: to confirm the bike has been found. I'm not suggesting 55 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: the nephew is in any way involved in Suzanne's disappearance. 56 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: He's out facing the cameras speaking, But that tells me 57 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: there's something unusual regarding the discovery of Susanne's bike. And 58 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: he was very tight lived about it with me. An 59 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: All Star panel to help determine what's happening to analyze 60 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: the clues left behind. First of all, trial lawyer and 61 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: judge anchor at Court TV Ashley Wilcot at Ashley Wilcot 62 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: dot com. Doctor Angela Arnold, renowned psychiatrists joining us out 63 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: of the Atlanta jurisdiction. Cloyd Steiger thirty six years Seattle 64 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: PD twenty two. That homicide, that's something, can't sneeze at that. 65 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Author of Seattle's Forgotten serial Killer, Gary Jane Grant at 66 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: Cloyd Steiger dot com, Professor Forensics Jacksonville State University and 67 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Death investigator 68 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan. But first to Crime online dot Com 69 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nicole Parton. I got a lot of questions 70 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: regarding this, but let's just start with the timeline. Mother's Day. 71 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: She goes for a bycride on Mother's Day. In the afternoon, 72 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: she's reported missing by neighbors at six pm. I believe 73 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: husband is one hundred and fifty miles away in Denver 74 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: on Mother's Day. But hey, that's just three hours if 75 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: you're going sixty mph. Jane stop wants to go to 76 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: the bathroom. So Nicole parton with that in mind, tell 77 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: me what you know. Yes, Nancy, forty nine year old 78 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: mom missing and apparently it's her next door neighbor that 79 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: alerts authorities. She sees her and knows that she's headed 80 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: out on the bike ride late in the afternoon. When 81 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: she doesn't return, the neighbor gets concerned and calls authority. 82 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: Now I've looked at her pictures. You have two beautiful 83 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: forty nine year old mother, very fit and in shape. 84 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: It was not uncommon for her to go out for 85 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: a bike ride. Do you know that? Do you know 86 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: that to be a fact. We know that according to 87 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: the next door neighbor, they had seen her go out 88 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: for bike ride several times. Questions question next door neighbor 89 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: male or female? Female? Good to know because I'm wondering, 90 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: how does the next door neighbor know so much about 91 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: this woman that there I was wondering if it was 92 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: a creepy stalker next door neighbor. But no, it's not. 93 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: I can tell you statistically it's not. If it's a woman, 94 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: how does a woman know that she left for the 95 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: bike ride and then no, by six o'clock she's not 96 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: where she's supposed to be. Maybe they were supposed to 97 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: have dinner together. Who knows, Maybe she called me. Do 98 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: you know why the neighbor realized something was a miss 99 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: at six pm? The only thing we know is that 100 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: she told authorities that it was getting dark, it was 101 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: getting late, and she knew she should have been back by. Now, 102 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: can I tell you about an unconfirmed report? Nicole? We 103 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: have an unconfirmed report the daughter, she has two daughters. Correct, 104 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: call the neighbor and asked her to call Jack. You're 105 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: saying she asked her to call the mom or asked 106 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: her to call police. So, in any event, you're correct 107 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: that it is the neighbor. I was wondering what prompted 108 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: the neighbor to realize that Suzanne was missing, and that 109 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: maybe a small detail, but we can all agree that 110 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: small details matter. Here. You pick it up from there, Sorry, Nicole, 111 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: go ahead, no problem. So authorities are alerted and they 112 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: begin the search. As you said, husband is one hundred 113 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: and fifty the way out of town. They're being very 114 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: tight lipped. Her family is not speaking, except for the nephew. 115 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Husband has lawyered up. He's been able to do several interviews. Wait. Wait, wait, wait, 116 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: what did you just say? The husband lawyered up? That's correct. 117 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: What kind of lawyer? Do you know who the lawyer is? 118 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I wasn't given that information. I just know 119 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: that the lawyers. I'd be curious to know if the 120 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: lawyer is a criminal defense lawyer. Just out of curiosity, 121 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: he lawyered up, you know, speaking of what you just said, 122 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcott, judge, trial lawyer, court deem me anchor. Ash 123 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: I was wondering why it was the nephew out there 124 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: hitting the airwaves, but in the last hours the husband 125 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: has finally come forward and spoken. Jack. Can you play 126 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: what the husby just said? Oh, Susanne. If anyone is 127 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: out there, I can hear this that has you, Please 128 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to bring you back. We love you, 129 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: we miss you. Your girls need you. No questions asked, 130 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: however much they want, I will do whatever it takes 131 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: to get you back. I love you, Okay, Ashley, I'm 132 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: just a JD all right. I only know how to 133 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: try cases. That that's it, and cook in the crop pot. 134 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: The girls miss you. I'm trying to analyze every word, 135 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: and Ashley, I'm not saying the guys responsible. But I 136 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: am saying that that's where the investigation will always start. 137 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: Barn one with hobby lover, ex boyfriend living, that's where 138 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: we start, jump in Ash well exactly. And he didn't 139 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: say I miss you, I'm worried, I'm concerned. And he 140 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: also made another statement that was fascinating to me, and 141 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: he said no questions asked. I felt like he was 142 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: blaming her, meaning he has information or knows more. That's 143 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: a really good point. I mean, maybe he's trying to say, 144 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Lloyd Steiger, no questions asked, I won't go after you, 145 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: just bring her home alive. Could be that, but Ash 146 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: is right, why would you say no questions asked? And 147 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: I don't want to parse words. I want to find 148 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: this woman. But what do you make of the circumstances 149 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: so far? Also, Lloyd, they're not telling us. And I've 150 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: tried to find out where the bike was found in 151 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: relation to the home. And also we know that a 152 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: personal item was found that is hers about I think 153 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: about three hundred feet or so from the home. So 154 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: what's that item because that would indicate to me that's 155 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: where the attack took place. If she's on a bike 156 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: and she's a veteran biker. Would she have dropped an 157 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: item by accident and not gone to get up? Where's 158 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: her cell phone? Was it activated? As she have fine 159 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: my iPhone app? And where the bike is? And the 160 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: condition of the bike. Because you heard the nephew say, 161 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm willing to confirm the bike was found, but he 162 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: sounded like he'd been instructing not to say anything else. 163 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: Why do you make mccloyd. Yeah, I think you know 164 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: when I heard that, no questions that same two that 165 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 1: were into Red flight for me? What do you mean 166 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: by that? I mean if my wife was missing or 167 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: something like that. First of all, I wouldn't lawyer up. 168 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he has a right to get a lawyer, 169 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't lawyer up. I'd be out there every 170 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: day in front of the news begging for help. I 171 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't send a nephew out to be my spokesman. Uh, 172 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: you know it sounds like, well, first of all, I'm 173 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: sure that this dament he made was parted with his 174 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: attorney before he made it. But you know, and what 175 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: was it? I don't know where was the bike found? 176 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: That's pretty important. You think they'd give you the area 177 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: the bike resound. Some people that area if they thought 178 00:11:53,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: something would know to look for the exactly crime stories 179 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking about the disappearance of 180 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: a mom, Susanne Morphew, beautiful mother of two girls. The 181 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: husband is one hundred and fifty miles away in Denver, 182 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: and I'd be all over that like a cheap suit. 183 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: What hotel is their surveillance video of the hotel, in 184 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: the hotel of him going in his room, did he 185 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: come out of his room? What time? It's only three 186 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: hours away. And again I'm not saying he had anything 187 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: to do with this. I'm saying that's where you start 188 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: the investigation. And if anybody disagrees, jump in and explain why. 189 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen now to our 190 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: friends at crimealline dot com. This is Dave Mack. Listen. 191 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: Susanne Morphew went missing from Maysville, Colorado. This small community 192 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: has a population under one hundred and thirty five according 193 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: to the two ten census, and average home prices are 194 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: around five hundred thousand dollars. Search efforts began when the 195 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: mom of two did not return after a bike ride 196 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: on Mother's Day. Reports say a neighbor called to report 197 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: more few missing. But we've also heard reports that it 198 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: was one of Morphew's two daughters who asked the neighbor 199 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: to contact police when she could not reach her mother. 200 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: Morphew and her husband, Barry, moved from Indiana about two 201 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: years ago. She was a middle school teacher. He owned 202 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: landscaping companies. He's also a volunteer fireman while Susanne Moore 203 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: a few opened a nonprofit for children in need called 204 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: Hope Network Incorporated. I'm trying to just take in all 205 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: that information. So he owned a landscaping company. That's just 206 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: opening up a plethora of possibilities, all the properties where 207 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: he has worked, all the people that work for him 208 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: and the landscaping companies. This woman did not leave of 209 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: her own volition and stage her bike right now, it's 210 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: my understanding that police are not releasing any information regarding 211 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: the condition or the location of the bike, or what 212 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: the quote personal item is that they found. You know, 213 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Nicole Parton, we got carried away and ran down a 214 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. Go back to where you left off and 215 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: tell me what you know, please sure, Nancy. So the 216 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: nextdoor neighbor calls authorities and they began this search, and 217 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: of course they reach out to the children and the husband, 218 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: and it says though she vanished in thin air, the 219 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: bike trail that supposedly she went is very safe. There 220 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: are people in the area who bike there as well, 221 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: who say there's never been an incident of anything happening. 222 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: They don't believe that it had anything to do with 223 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: a wild animal attack. They're calling this very suspicious and 224 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: of course I'm missing the missing person case. They don't 225 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: know what happened. They're being tight lips. We don't know 226 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: if she had a cell phone with her, We don't 227 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: know what personal item was found right there near the home. 228 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: But we also know that, in addition to owning these 229 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: landscaping companies, her husband has a net worth of close 230 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: to three million dollars. So could this have been something 231 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: to do with a ransom? Could this have been something 232 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: to do with kidnapping for money. There's so many different 233 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: areas that could be questioned. Well too, is that Joe 234 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Scott jumping in Joseph Scott Morgan kidnapped for ransom? Where's 235 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: their answer that? Yeah, no, kidneys ns the one and 236 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: we don't know about it. And police aren't saying anything. 237 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: That's something I'd be very interested. And I was just 238 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: taking a look at satellite image of the home and 239 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: it is, I don't know, by my standards, pretty impressive. 240 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: And this is in a very isolated area. But one 241 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: significant thing here. Their home sits just off of Highway fifty, 242 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: which is like an old federal highway, and it's kind 243 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: of a main thoroughfare that runs down there. She would 244 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: have when she exited the home, she would have had 245 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: to have made a left heading back toward town on 246 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: this road on her bike. That item that they keep 247 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: referring to that they haven't specifically identified, was found about 248 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: three tenths of a mile away from the home, on 249 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: the right hand side, the side of the road she 250 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: would have been riding on, and it's adjacent to the trail. 251 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: I think, so that's roughly five hundred yards if you 252 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: want to compute that this happened. If this happened right there, Nancy, 253 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: it happened almost immediately, like as soon as she turned 254 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: out onto that road. That's significant. That means that somebody 255 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: may have been watching her. You know another thing that 256 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: you just sparked memory, Joe Scott, do you remember Dylan 257 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: and Shasta Grone, the two little children that were kidnapped 258 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: in Cordelone, Idaho, and the whole family was massacred and 259 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: they were taken. They were held repeatedly molested. The little boy, 260 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: Dylan was raped over and over and over, and he 261 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: would be strangled to death or near death and then 262 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: resuscitated and then it would start over and over and over. 263 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: And they caught the perp because he took Shasta to 264 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: like seven to eleven and she was walking around behind him, 265 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: and somebody recognized her photo after seeing her on TV. 266 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: We had been covering out like every night on HLN. 267 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: Long story short, he happened to be driving down the 268 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: interstate that perp and spite of the children playing in 269 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: an above ground pool. Totally unconnected. So you're telling me 270 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: this is right off oh Highway fifty, correct, Yeah, also 271 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: Highway fifty. You know. One of the things that just 272 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: strikes me about this. I want to know more information 273 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: about this bicycle because I don't know where it was found. 274 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: Let's just say, for instance, just you know, indulge me 275 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: just for a second. Let's say that this person pulled 276 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: up alongside of her and nudged her off of the road. 277 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: There's going to be significant damage, probably contact damage to 278 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: that bike. She would have more than likely if she'd 279 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: been bumped off of the bike and disabled in some way, 280 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: she would have injuries to her body, maybe a leg injury, 281 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: hip injury, maybe even a head injury. But they have 282 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: the bike, so I'm wondering if we've got transfer evidence 283 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: like paint from a vehicle that has attached itself onto 284 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: the bike, you know, when these two things scrubbed together, 285 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: that's going to be significant. And also was the bike 286 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: actually run over, you know, and that that could go 287 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: to things like trace evidence relative to tires, did it 288 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: get caught beneath the vehicle? And it raises all kinds 289 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: a myriad of questions from a forensics fandpoint of course 290 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: that what may have happened to her at that moment time? 291 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: And what was that personal item? Was it a set 292 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: of headphones? Was it a phone, was it a watch? 293 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what it would have been. That would 294 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: have been a specific and this is a significant, a 295 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: specific tie back to her. They said it's her personal item, 296 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: not somebody else's, but her, So it means it's got 297 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: an identifier. I can tell you one thing, the bike 298 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: was found at a different location I think than the 299 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: personal item, because the first thing we hear, well, actually 300 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: they wouldn't say anything about whether the bike was found 301 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: at the get go. They kept that a secret, and 302 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: I wonder why. And based on what the nephew is saying, 303 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: how he was so mysterious about the bike's condition, That 304 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: tells me it's a huge evidentiary clue. But then later, 305 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: like forty eight hours later or more, we hear, oh, update, 306 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: a personal item has been found. That suggests do you 307 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: agree or disagree Joe Scott that the personal item was 308 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: found in a different location than the bike or it 309 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: would have come out at the same time. Yeah, it could, 310 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: it could have been. Just let me kind of follow 311 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: this line of logic. If the bike was found in 312 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: a different location. Just y'all follow me just for a 313 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: second here. If she got knocked off and was subdued 314 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: in some way, you know, bike's going to draw attention 315 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: if it's just laying out. I mean, we've all driven 316 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: down these these old US highways like this. They're pretty sizeable. 317 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: It's not like some little country road that bike would 318 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: draw attention. That means that potentially there was a vehicle 319 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: big enough to accommodate that bike. Maybe they threw the 320 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: bike into the into the car and drove it to 321 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 1: a different location so it wouldn't draw attention, and then 322 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: they hit it or sequestered it somewhere. And of course 323 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: she's missing, and that's significant. I do know that they 324 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: got out what are called swiftwater swiftwater searchers, which are 325 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: kind of like a dive team, but they're they're set 326 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: up to do whitewater searches. You know, the Arkansas River 327 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: runs through this area. That is a serious river that 328 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: like canoers and rafters go down. We're in a very 329 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: rugged area of our country in this area, Nancy, and 330 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: so you're going to have a very complex areas that 331 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: kind of search for evidence here. And it takes a 332 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: keen eye. They're looking in these rivers for her for 333 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: whatever reason, because they went to their trouble to bring 334 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: these people in crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, where 335 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: is Suzanne Morphew who seemingly vanishes just boof disappears in 336 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: broad daylight. Take a listen to our friends at CBS 337 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 1: for Denver News. This is Alan Jannette. The hardest thing 338 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: She's a beloved member of her family and the sweetest 339 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: person that you've ever met, The nephew of forty nine 340 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: year old Suzanne More, if you talking about what it's 341 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: like to go through the difficulty of a search that 342 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: started after when missing during a Sunday bike cry. Family 343 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: has said her husband, Barry, was out of town in Denver. 344 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: A friend called authorities when more Few didn't return. The 345 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: bike was found on Sunday, the day as she would missing. 346 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: The sheriff has not yet shared information on the bike, 347 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: but has told CBS for the reason for her disappearances 348 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: probably not animals. Extensive searching in Chiefee County, about twenty 349 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: miles west of Salida, has not brought an answer on 350 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: what happened to More. A few guys, we're talking about 351 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: a gorgeous you know, mom, Suzanne Morephew, and I'm getting 352 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: more questions than answers right now. Once again we hear 353 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: the nephew speaking out the bike found and announced separate 354 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: from the personal item, let's bring in the panel joining me. 355 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Doctor Angela Arnold, psychiatrist in the Atlanta jurisdiction. Why the 356 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: nephew and now the husband? Several days later posts a 357 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: Facebook video. Interesting. Can't take questions on Facebook video? Go ahead, 358 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: doctor Angela, It's very interesting. I'll tell you something to 359 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: to see a question that's burning inside of me. Why 360 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: did they Why did they move there two years ago? 361 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering about that. And how how close is 362 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: the nephew to this woman? Well, you know, my mems 363 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: are very close to me because you know, they came 364 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: along before I had my own children, so they were 365 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: like children to me. And my nephews and my niece 366 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: very close and have always considered them like my own children. 367 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: I do believe they came here for They came to 368 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: Colorado for early retirement. They you know, stashed away somehow 369 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: three million bucks had a half a million dollar home 370 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: in a beautiful area in Colorado. Gorgeous area. By the way, 371 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I hiked there many many times. Long story short, I 372 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: think that's why they were there. I asked the same question, 373 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: doctor Angela, Why move if you're happy and doing well 374 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: where you are. I'm just curious about the whole thing. 375 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: Floyd Steiger with me, Ashley Willcot with me, Ashley to 376 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: you again, nobody's pointing the finger at the husband, but 377 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: being one hundred and fifty miles away. I mean, that's 378 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: nothing that's less than three hours away. I've just got 379 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: to figure out the timing here. And you have to 380 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: start with the husband first. No offense to him, Ash, 381 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely you do, because that's what you always do. Often 382 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: perpetrators are ones that we know are the person that 383 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: we lived with, that we're closest to. So one of 384 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: the things that I don't have yet that I would 385 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: like to have established is the timeline. Exactly what you said, Okay, 386 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: we've heard the husband with one hundred and fifty miles away, 387 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: but what time did he leave the house? Where did 388 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: he go when he was one hundred and fifty miles away? 389 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: Do in fact they have like a GPS tracker from 390 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 1: his phone from his car to know if he stayed 391 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty miles away all day or not. 392 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: The timeline has not been established in terms of everything 393 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: I've seen in the coverage yet to know exactly who 394 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: was where when, which are very important pieces to start 395 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: an investigation. And I'd like to know about her phone. 396 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to believe you we'd leave it 397 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: behind even on a bike ride. I mean, I make 398 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: my children, you know, I go out with them, have 399 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: their phone with them, not to look at on the 400 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: bike ride, but to have with them. Let's take a 401 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: listen to w k WGN Craig and Nieto's Channel two. 402 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: Day three of the search for forty nine year olds 403 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Shusanne Morphew, the Chiefe County wife and mother, first reported 404 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: missing late Sunday afternoon. The search intensifying today along Highway 405 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: fifty at the base of Monarch Pass. Today, I've got 406 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: different types of searching dogs in the area. Gone back 407 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: over the same area again. Sunday afternoon, Morphew had set 408 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: out for a bike ride along County Road to twenty 409 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: five and West Hiwe fifty. Chiefee County's sheriff says social 410 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: media is actually getting to places where search crews cannot 411 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: well over about one hundred and eighty thousand, well over 412 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty thousand people on Facebook, I thought 413 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: he's down south. Day four ends with promising news. We've 414 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: brought on a lot of extra help to work on 415 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: this case, and we're just looking for anything we can 416 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: to try to find her. Now. I did ask us 417 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: for more of few. If he's interested in making a 418 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: public plea, he says at this point, it's simply too soon. 419 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: Too soon? What was he waiting on? Guys? Also, in 420 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: the public play he released on Facebook, taking no Questions, 421 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: he says, I'll I will do whatever it takes to 422 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: get you back, Honey. I love you. I want you 423 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 1: back so bad. You know, people react to this kind 424 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: of situation differently. I remember when my husband, I don't 425 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: know if I told you this story, Joe Scott Morgan, 426 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: when he has to travel a lot with his business, 427 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: he always text or calls the minute he touches down, 428 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: so I don't have to worry. And then when he 429 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: usually will text when he goes to supper, like hey, 430 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm having umji whatever. And then he old 431 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: text or call when he gets to a hotel and 432 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: he's safe, and I don't expect him to break into 433 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: his busy day to call me and have a big, 434 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: long conversation. But he went to Florida and he texted 435 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: when he landed, and I was super busy at that bay, 436 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: so I saw the text. I was happy, and then 437 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: I didn't ever hear from him again, and I was 438 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: convinced that, you know, somebody in the parking lot and 439 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: hit him on the head, or he got to a 440 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: hotel room and had a heart attack. You do know, 441 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: Joe Scott. I made d who works with me, wake 442 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: her up at one o'clock in the morning, and we 443 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: spend till six a m. Calling every hospital in hotel 444 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: in the area. I don't even remember what town it was. 445 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: I think it was winter Haven, Florida, until we found 446 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: d found his hotel and I tore. I tried to 447 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: be nice to start with, but finally I tore the 448 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: poor night clerk and you well, you know what until 449 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: he went to the room with his cell phone turned 450 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: on and on the door, and you could hear David 451 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: come to the door and he said, your wife's gonna 452 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: call you on your hotel room. And he was fine. 453 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: He was just exhausted and fell asleep with his iPad 454 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: open and his cell phone sitting by him on the bed. 455 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: So I mean, the moment I think he's missing, I 456 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: started trying to do everything I could. So what does 457 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: that mean It's too soon to ask the public for help? Yeah, 458 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what it means. And back to your 459 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: first point there, I think that goes along. Obviously, our 460 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: reaction goes along with the nature of what we do 461 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: for a living. You know, I'm always terrified something's going 462 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: to happen to my loved ones like this because of 463 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: all the stuff we cover. But to this point, I 464 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: tell you something else that's kind of curious for me. Uh. 465 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just an old Southern boy. And you know, 466 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: you start Mother's Day right, okay, Mother's Day, and I'm thinking, 467 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: why why don't you watch you with your children on 468 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: that day? Uh? You know, maybe he's maybe his models 469 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: and caught in Denver. I have no idea, but you know, 470 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: for me, I better be standing tall at the house 471 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: with my wife, the mother of my children, and we 472 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: better be maybe over at at my in law's house, 473 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, visiting my mother in law or my mother. 474 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: But we're gonna be together as a family. Not so 475 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: much on Father's Day, but on Mother's Day. That that's 476 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of odd to me. And so 477 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that really kind of raises 478 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: a flag from me. And again, you know, we're not 479 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: accusing for me too, questions, don't we You know, when 480 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: you get married and you say I do you you 481 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: situate yourself and you better expect that you're the first 482 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: one cops come to when anything go sideways. And I 483 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: got to tell you something to doctor Angela Arnold, why 484 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: is this. I don't give a fig about my birthday. 485 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: I love everybody else's but never have but Mother's Day. 486 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's my crowning achievement, that the twins Mother's Day. 487 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: That's why is he one hundred and fifty miles away? 488 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: And I still don't understand this comment whatever he said 489 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: about no questions asked, no questions asked? What is going on? 490 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: All these little nefarious things that people are saying. There's 491 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: so much underlying us. You don't leave your wife on 492 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: Mother's Day? I'm sorry. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, guys, 493 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: we are learning so much more about disappearing mom Suzanne. 494 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: We're learning, for instance, reports that her bike brakes were locked. 495 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: What does it mean bike breakes locked? Let's go to you, 496 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan and Cloyd's Tiger. What does that mean 497 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: to you? Is that significant? Joseph jo Scott Morgan? If 498 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: it's true, well, yeah, and again that's that's kind of 499 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: a cryptic kind of way to describe that. I'm wondering 500 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: if maybe she didn't apply the brakes, you know, the 501 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: handbrakes that you have up on the handlebars, in such 502 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: a manner that it locked down at the moment time 503 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: when maybe she was approached by a vehicle. Maybe there's 504 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: an independent way to lock the brakes on a vehicle 505 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: so that the tires don't spend. Remember these bikes that 506 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: people have, particularly in these areas, are very very expensive, 507 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: and so they have kind of fail saves on them 508 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: to prevent like tires from getting out a line and 509 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: this sort of thing. So maybe it's locked down to 510 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: prevent that. That's something that we would need to explore more. 511 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: I'd like to know if it happened in a sudden moment, 512 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: like we say in forensic medicine and an acute moment, 513 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: or was it something that she had done independent or 514 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: maybe somebody locked them down so they wouldn't spin around 515 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: in a vehicle that the car that the vehicle was 516 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: being that the bicycle was being transported in to cloy 517 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: Stiger or Tory six year Seattle, Pg. Twenty two. Homicide 518 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: questions mounting as Suzanne Moorephy remains missing now one week 519 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: cloy S Tiger, If you were there on that scene, 520 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: what would you be asking? What would you be doing? Well, 521 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: first of all, I would I would like actually said, 522 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: I believe that Why was this her husband one hundred 523 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: and fifty miles away or wherever he was? What was 524 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: going on that he had to be there? This guy 525 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: sounds like a pretty well there. He was a business owner. 526 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: The acticles there on a Sunday on Mother's Day, and 527 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: then I, of course you want to look for you know, 528 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: I can have a lot of commercial surveillance video there, 529 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: but if you went by houses, there's a lot of prices. Wait, wait, 530 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: hold it, hold it, hold it Cloyd coronavirus. Who is 531 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: going to travel out of town and hold up in 532 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: a hotel on Mother's Day during coronavirus? Yeah, that's another thing. 533 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: What's going on there? What's happening that makes this guy 534 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: be one hundred and fifty miles away? Maybe he was 535 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty miles away because he wanted to 536 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: be away when something happened that he'd set up with 537 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: somebody else. Those are questions I'd ask. Again, it's almost 538 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: always the husband doesn't mean he did in this case, 539 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: but you have to be prudent and started. Yeah, you 540 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: have to and again, he is not a person of interest, 541 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: He is not a suspect. Nothing like that has been said. 542 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: We also know, as Joe Scott indicated earlier, the Chaffee 543 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's office has been looking at white water. They're 544 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: doing fast water dive searches with a whole nother animal 545 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: of diving. But they've also asked neighbors to preserve surveillance video. 546 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: And you know, when you got a house to Cole 547 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: parton Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter, that's a half 548 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: a million dollars or more, you know they're going to 549 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: be doubt totally was surveillance video. So they're asking neighbors 550 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: if they have any now catch this from May eight 551 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: to May twelve? Whoa why are they asking for video 552 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: from May eight to May twelve? What about that Nicole? Oh? 553 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: Have you heard that? I had heard that. We don't 554 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: know why, but it would lead us to believe that 555 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: they want to see who's coming, who's going, what's happening 556 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: during all of those days? Are they watching the husband, 557 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: are they watching the home? Are they looking for maybe 558 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: someone would come back to the home who had taken her. 559 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: There's so many possibilities but we do know that they 560 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: are checking with all of the neighbors, capturing that surveillance video, 561 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: capturing door to door witness accounts of anything that was 562 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: heard or said during that time frame. That makes me think, you, 563 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, they're looking at somebody else as well. 564 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: Why are they looking at video for eight, nine, ten, eleven, 565 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: twelve leading up to her disappearance? Guy's tip line seven 566 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: one nine three one two seven five three zero repeat 567 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: seven one nine three one two seven five three zero. 568 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: There is a two hundred thousand dollars reward jump in 569 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: Joe Scott. Hey, Look, Nancy, at this point in time, 570 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: we have nothing to go on in from our perspective. 571 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: Now the police will have more. But you have to 572 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: You have to turn over every rock. You have to 573 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: consider every possibility. And look, let's don't beat around the bush. 574 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about people that you know with the husband, 575 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: the next door neighbor. We're talking about people that are 576 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: in the intimate circle. Those are going to be people 577 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna have firsthand knowledge. Well, if you're on videography 578 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: relative to the life of this woman, if you're filmed 579 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: in that area, then that means that you're part of 580 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: her life in some way. I want to know who's 581 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: coming going I know Chloyd Woods as a homicide investigator. 582 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: I want to know who's going to have contact with her, 583 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: which is very important going back and forth. You know, 584 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: can we establish a tomline before she disappeared, when she 585 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: maybe was saying she was going to leave, and then 586 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: up to afterwards, and that goes to motives sometimes if 587 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: there's something that farious going on here, and I certainly 588 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: believe there is, trying to figure out why they want 589 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: surveillance footage for a period of days leading up to 590 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: Susanne Morphew's disappearance when apparently she's spotted by an eyewitness 591 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: going for a bike ride Sunday afternoon Mother's Day while 592 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: her husband's out of town in Denver. Let's cut two, 593 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: cut six Chaffee County Sheriff's press conference. Take a listen 594 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: to this. We've run foot searches using air support, canine support, 595 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: swift water support, and we've also utilized countless hours of 596 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: drone searches. We've used all over two hundred personnel and 597 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: over two thousand man hours have gone into this search, 598 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: but unfortunately, we haven't found Suzanne yet, and as I 599 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: stated before, that is our top priority. Yesterday afternoon, which 600 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: is Thursday, in the area of County Road two twenty 601 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: five and Highway fifty, we did find items that we 602 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: believe were personal items of Suzanne, more few and that 603 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: launched a bigger search we had today, which included the 604 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: full closure of US Highway fifty on Monarch Pass. In 605 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: that search, we used today well over ninety searchers that 606 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: are well trained individuals from both our local agencies as 607 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: well as the FBI and CBI. We searched over two 608 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: and a half miles using grid patterns. Unfortunately, we found 609 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: no other items in that area. FBI, local sheriff's and police, 610 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: and the CBI Colorado Bureau of Investigation. That is quite 611 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: a search covering, I think, he said, twenty miles via grid. 612 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: Now take a listen to nine News Colorado News anchor 613 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: Kim Christiansen. Suzanne Morphew went for a bike ride on Sunday. 614 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: She never returned. The Chaffey County Sheriff's Office says an 615 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: item thought to belong to her was found just west 616 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: of County Road two twenty five and Highway fifty. The 617 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: Sheriff's office would not say what that item was or 618 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: where it was found. More than fifty searchers were in 619 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: that area, and they closed Monarch Pass for several hours. 620 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: This morning, Our nine News anchor Gary Shapiro talked with 621 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: Morphew's uncle, our nephew rather about the search for his aunt. 622 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: Are there any theories that you're working on? Yes, there are, 623 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: But I think it's best for the investigation and for 624 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: the family and for the progress that we that we 625 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: keep it close. We're making progress, and we are so 626 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: far from giving up, and we are going to find 627 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: her today. Oh gosh, that's sin if you speaking saying 628 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: we're going to find her today, I've got a question, 629 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: what do you make of that? To Cloyd Stey girl, 630 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: I want to go to ask you, Willcott, I haven't 631 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: talked to her at a moment, Ash. Why would they 632 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: not want to reveal a theory. Wouldn't they want the 633 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: public's help to further that theory. Sure they would, unless 634 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: it's going to interfere with the investigation. So at this 635 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,479 Speaker 1: point I have to tell you, knowing that we have State, 636 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: we have FBI, we have all these people involved, I 637 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: think that they have more information that they don't want 638 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: to tell the public. They don't want the public to 639 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: know the theory because they don't want the person who 640 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,759 Speaker 1: is involved or know something to know that they're onto them. 641 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: And they still have to investigate more to really make 642 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: certain that theory might be accurate. That's the only thing 643 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: I can guess in this case. Tipline seven one nine 644 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: three one two seven five three zero. We wait as 645 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: the search goes on Nancy Grace crime story, signing off 646 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,