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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamsonsion

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to our special ongoing coverage live from the Steeler

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Speaker 2: Ota Sessions. I am Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: Wesley Yuler will be joining us a little later here

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Speaker 2: in the show. We apologize for some of the technical

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Speaker 2: difficulty in a rough week yesterday. As much rain as

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Speaker 2: we got yesterday, Dare, I was shocked that we didn't

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Speaker 2: get knocked off the air until when we actually did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was just it was nasty. It

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Speaker 3: was raining, sideways and cold and yeah right, I mean

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Speaker 3: for a May day.

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Speaker 4: I mean if that would have been November, these guys,

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Speaker 4: I was under.

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Speaker 2: The understanding that Memorial Day was the unofficial start summer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think today is it's nice now. So

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Speaker 3: we have had some issues these two days we've been here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and so there's another one looming. I hope we don't

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Speaker 3: get knocked off now.

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Speaker 2: This is all part of the process here is you,

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Speaker 2: you know, get ready for the real time exactly. Working

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Speaker 2: out the kinks, Yeah, working out the kinks and the

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Speaker 2: the LoVa kinks we're living.

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Speaker 3: L I was just chatting with some acron zip coaches.

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Speaker 3: That are some folks that I know are on that

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Speaker 3: staff again once again from twenty years ago.

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Speaker 4: They're here. There's a bunch of college coaches around for these.

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Speaker 2: High school coaches as well. Yeah. I was texting with

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Speaker 2: Nate hiller Rich, who is the coach at Pickerington North

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Speaker 2: in the Columbus area. He was jam Sawyer's we should

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Speaker 2: recruit there when I was next door.

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Speaker 4: Yeah good high school?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. You know they had recruited Pitted

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Speaker 2: recruited Sawyer as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he had texted me this morning to tell

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Speaker 2: me he was going to be here. I'd actually help

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Speaker 2: set that.

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Speaker 4: Up for him.

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Speaker 2: Okay. I spoke to him last week for a story.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. You can read it Monday on Steelers dot

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Speaker 2: Com on Jack Sawyer and I spoke to Hillartch last

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Speaker 2: week about his former star player. Did you know Jack

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Speaker 2: Sawyer played quarterback?

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Speaker 3: I did you actually mentioned it to me last week

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Speaker 3: when we were working on when you asked much have

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Speaker 3: talked about him? I don't think we mentioned it on

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Speaker 3: the air, but it speaks to his football intelligence and

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Speaker 3: getting your best player the ball in his hands and

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Speaker 3: that type of thing too.

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Speaker 4: Like he was one of the top recruits in the country.

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Speaker 4: He was number one. Yeah, guy, yeah, you know better

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Speaker 4: than In.

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Speaker 2: Fact, Hillary said he got ticked off when one of

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Speaker 2: the recruiting services bumped him down to two.

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Speaker 4: Really, so it's pretty high praise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like, look, there's nothing you could do about it.

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Speaker 4: Rankings. You're splitting airs here, yoah, so real quick.

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Speaker 3: I mean'm not sure if people know this, but like

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Speaker 3: it's not uncommon for college's high schools to attend these

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Speaker 3: high school kind of would almost always be open to

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Speaker 3: high schools, which was good for recruiting too. But it's

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Speaker 3: it's a nice thing that the the team does. And

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Speaker 3: sometimes they'll let you sit in meetings and just sit

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Speaker 3: in the back and take notes. And this is how

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Speaker 3: they coach this up. And there is a lot of helping. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the the lower ranks, you know quarter you know, as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it happens. Every year. You'll see a number

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Speaker 2: of coaches coaching staffs. They bring them. You know, you'll

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Speaker 2: kind of hey, you go watch the tight ends, you know,

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Speaker 2: Or maybe you've got a coach who did coach another

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Speaker 2: watch the lineman. You get to get an over you know,

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Speaker 2: you can glean, you know, as a football guy from

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Speaker 2: these kind of practice sessions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I think that divulging any secrets

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Speaker 3: is so long ago, but when I was at Pitt,

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Speaker 3: there was the hardest position by far to recruit is

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Speaker 3: our defensive line coach came over here to the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Those were like the Aaron Smith days, two gapping, teaching

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Speaker 3: It was one of the Steelers' best positions. But we

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Speaker 3: got a lot of tips just from people that are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could learn a lot. Yeah, you know during

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Speaker 2: in these kind of situations, even if you really don't

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Speaker 2: you have a reasonably good head on your shoulders, you

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Speaker 3: Different drills they do. And you know, like you said,

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Speaker 3: the position drills when they when they go into Indy.

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Speaker 3: That kind of stuff is huge. And again I bet

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Speaker 3: they're invited into the tight end meeting room too for

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Speaker 3: before and after and just five different things I've been

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Speaker 3: to coach differently now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can remember when when my oldest son was

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Speaker 2: he was playing like youth football and his uh, one

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Speaker 2: they said, hey, can you help us out? And I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 2: look I played basketball and baseball. Yeah yeah, Like we

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Speaker 4: I'll coach baseball for you all day long.

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Speaker 2: But right, I said, all I all I can give

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Speaker 2: you is I've watched, as I mentioned earlier in the week,

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Speaker 2: I watched about one hundred and fifty to two hundred

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well you could. You should do that.

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Speaker 3: games you've covered. How many practices do you think you've covered?

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Speaker 2: He couldn't even ten thousand? Yeah right, But I you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can coach as well as a defensive

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Speaker 2: I had seen them do it, so right, right, talk

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Speaker 3: Just structuring a practice, I bet was valuable. You know,

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't like I was reinventing the wheel or

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Speaker 2: any right, right, you know, just by paying attention out

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Speaker 2: out here when you're just osmosis being out here for

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Speaker 3: And just in the football community, I'm sure it's true

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, at Pitt we had a coach's clinic, which

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Speaker 3: was a blast. I mean, all the high schools came down.

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Speaker 3: We just and our coaches would just all go into

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Speaker 3: and you drink beers afterwards, and they want to talk

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Speaker 3: of football the whole time, you know, and it was

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Speaker 3: a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trade ideas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's especially true. I think, you know when you had

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Speaker 4: What this West Coast stuff for the Bow's defense or even.

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Speaker 2: You know, going back to the run and shoot concepts

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Speaker 3: The shared information. Information works. And then you hire that

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Speaker 2: It was that way, especially with the Steelers, you know,

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Speaker 2: when they were heavy into the zone blitz stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And the other thing side of it is how do

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Speaker 4: And help me out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you start with you know, if you have

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Speaker 2: So Day three here Matt of the Steelers Ota sessions

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Speaker 2: here at the upmc rooney Sports Complex on the South Side,

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Speaker 2: and uh, much nicer today, as I mentioned than yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure the players really appreciate, uh this because it's

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Speaker 2: it's warmer, it's dry, yeah, and uh they're able to

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Speaker 2: get some stuff done out here, and a lot of

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Speaker 2: pads now, there's no Yeah. So I was thinking about this.

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Speaker 2: Obviously everybody's you know, TJ. Watt's not here. This guy's

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Speaker 4: That's not the story of the week. It really is, shouldn't.

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Speaker 2: You know if you think about it from this perspective.

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward last year did nothing during ot as. He

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Speaker 2: had a pretty good year.

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Speaker 4: Last night he was all right, right, Yeah. T J.

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Speaker 2: Watt was his contract year twenty twenty one. Did nothing

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Speaker 2: in TVA. You know, he did nothing at mini camp,

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Speaker 2: He did nothing at training camp. He signed his contract

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Speaker 2: two days before they went up to play Buffalo, and

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Speaker 2: he had three tackles, two sacks, five quarterback hits, and

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Speaker 2: force fumble. He affected the game. Yeah, yeah, one of

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Speaker 2: the best players on the field. It ended up going

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Speaker 2: on to win NFL Defensive Player of the Year that year.

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Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger was very sporadic in attending OTA. He would

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Speaker 2: be here. He wouldn't be here the next day, maybe

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Speaker 2: not that week. His family he's on vacation with his

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Speaker 2: family or whatever. So be it. Troy Poulamalu never came,

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Speaker 4: Oh right, right right, and you told me that.

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Speaker 2: But you know, so for the star players, not a

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Speaker 2: huge deal.

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Speaker 4: They're professionals.

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Speaker 4: He'll learn that in a week.

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Speaker 2: Looking at this roster, Matt, I think the outside perception,

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Speaker 3: That they weren't able to access really last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But it was a great interview and you could.

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Speaker 3: I can understand why why some of the quote unquote

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Speaker 2: Yes, he is not the ideal height right right.

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Speaker 3: You know, much unlike this past draft class, you know,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that, okay, because as he said.

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Speaker 4: In the there's no doubt if he's a tackle.

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Speaker 2: Which I think is why because they both played left

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Speaker 4: Because remember Dan Morson plays folks, and Jones was.

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Speaker 2: Going to compete. Jones was going to compete at right tackle,

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Speaker 4: You know, like when Herbig got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Filetano got hurt in the first preseason game.

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Speaker 2: They were rotating Jones and Moore at left tackle, and

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Speaker 3: Game, which I know people there's a lot of listeners going. Man,

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Speaker 4: It was a bit of an issue.

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Speaker 2: The starters are the starters, the backups are the backups.

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Speaker 3: No, no, you I'd be thrilled if they're both so

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Speaker 4: But the draft dried up real fast with those.

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Speaker 2: It just wasn't a great draft run now and then

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Speaker 2: And I do think that they like Calvin Anderson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: They gave him a two year deal.

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Speaker 4: They gave him a.

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Speaker 4: Now he's gonna be on the team. So he's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's a guy that's that started. I think

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Speaker 4: And he'll play both sides. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I think they do have faith in him. But overall,

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt, because if you're solid at those two

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Speaker 4: Man, it's a luxury.

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Speaker 2: Now yeah now, now you can do some stuff. Yeah

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Speaker 2: those trackles are critical in that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're the guys that are And you mentioned this

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Speaker 3: the other day too. I mean, you got Miles Garrett

442
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Speaker 3: twice a year, you got Hendrickson probably twice a year.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens drafted Mike Green and they rushed the passer. Well,

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Speaker 3: I mean like not that. I mean, every team's got

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Speaker 3: edge rushers, and if you don't have to help those

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Speaker 3: guys over and over and over, I mean doesn't mean

447
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Speaker 3: you won't give Chip help against Garrett and things like that,

448
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Speaker 3: but it gets you one more guy out in your route.

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Speaker 4: Or you're able to help somebody else or you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean so as Darnell Washington walks for pass us too,

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Speaker 3: I mean you talk about looking like a tackle all

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Speaker 3: the count Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I know having talked to I remember talking to

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Speaker 2: Spencer Anderson about that last year. I said, what's Darnell

455
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Speaker 2: way right now? He says, well, I know.

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Speaker 4: I'm taking the over whatever's on this sheet in front

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Speaker 4: of us, I'm taking it.

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Speaker 2: Like he's listed at like two to eighty. He was

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Speaker 2: at like three h five last year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean his from the waist down is pretty substantial,

461
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Speaker 3: bigger than I remember.

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Speaker 4: To say the least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big bit.

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Speaker 4: He is a huge human being, move who can move.

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Speaker 3: I bring him up all the time as most underrated

466
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Speaker 3: Steelers as well as most improved from last year from

467
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Speaker 3: his rookie year to last year, not just because he

468
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Speaker 3: caught more balls. But he is a pain in the

469
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Speaker 3: you know what to play against, and so many offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 4: Would love to have that chess piece.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a it's an underrated aspect of what

472
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Speaker 2: he can do, run and pass, game protection, block, just

473
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Speaker 2: this fear size of him, you know, and he's not

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Speaker 2: a stiff at all. Yeah, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. We'll be joined here in a little

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Speaker 2: while by Wesley Euler as well from the Steelers. What

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Speaker 2: do they call there's the blitz, the blitz, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Blitz. Then, of course Matt and I are the

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Speaker 2: hosts of the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, and

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Speaker 2: we are live from the Steelers Ota sessions here at

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Speaker 2: the upmc rooney Sports Complex. And Matt, I'm looking around

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Speaker 2: at the Steelers roster and we were talking earlier, a

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Speaker 2: little bit earlier in the show here about the some

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Speaker 2: of the national oversight. I think of what the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have here.

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Speaker 3: What they've lost, what they've lost, and what they've had,

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're done.

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Speaker 2: Adding, by the way, I don't think they are either, right,

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Speaker 2: They've got they've got the cap space to do quite

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Speaker 2: a bit, including quarterback and whatever.

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Speaker 4: Else future you know.

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Speaker 2: But on NFL dot Com, they have the ten most

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Speaker 2: complete rosters in the league, and they have the Denver

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Speaker 2: Broncos as the tenth most complete roster in the league.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be quite honest with you, if I look

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Speaker 2: at the Steelers roster compared to Denver's roster, I don't think

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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Roster, yeah, especially if we're if we're gonna Rogers situation, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think we're out of the woods yet.

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Speaker 3: On bow Nicks really promising. But and we thought the

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Speaker 3: same thing with like Stroud last year. Some of these

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Speaker 3: rookie quarterbacks take definitely take a step back and then

514
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Speaker 3: take two steps forward a year from now. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're two is tough on quarterbacks too. I like Denver's defense,

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Speaker 3: yeah lot, but the Steelers is very but it's too

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Speaker 3: I mean, I still take the Steelers front over Theirs

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Speaker 3: after a first round pick at corner.

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Speaker 4: Their secondary looks really, really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, was certain. I think they're weapons short though. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love their O line. It's kind of an underrated unit.

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Speaker 2: But and honestly, their running back situation is not settled now.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would love to like Harvey in the draft,

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Speaker 2: but I thought they overdrafted him a little, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that he's going to be

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Speaker 2: a three hundred touch guy right off the bat and

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Speaker 2: be a bell cow. And they don't have the Jlem Warren.

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Speaker 4: No, that's that's work with that. It would be great

529
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Speaker 4: to have that guy.

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Speaker 2: They don't even have. You know, they have a Kenneth

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Speaker 2: Gamewell type in McLaughlin in McLaughlin, but they don't have

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Speaker 2: the Jalen Warren. Who All right, if the rookie doesn't

533
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Speaker 2: work out or he misses some time, who's who's your Bell.

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Speaker 3: Cow the one a, the true two, the guy that

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Speaker 3: can do everything but has a specialty.

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Speaker 2: But it really got one receiver.

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Speaker 4: What's that?

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Speaker 2: They've got one receiver?

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Speaker 3: As I said, just weapons is In general, I like Ingram.

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Speaker 3: It's a nice pickup, so I'm not a complain about

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Speaker 3: the tight end. But he's a certain type of tight end, right,

542
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Speaker 3: and one more scary guy with the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 4: I think it would go a long way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know everybody you know fell in love

545
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Speaker 2: with Valley last year because he was a seventh round.

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Speaker 4: Draft for a seventh round pick. He's great, He's.

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Speaker 2: Already twenty six. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a reason why

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Speaker 2: he was a seventh round draft picking.

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Speaker 4: They need the special.

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Speaker 3: No, No, he's a nice story and yeah right he's

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Speaker 3: he's a Van Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: But this way, would you rather have Valley or Roman Wilson.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather roll a dice on what Wilson could.

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Speaker 2: Be doing, right, I'd certainly rather have Calvin Austin.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's a lot more established than all those guys.

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Speaker 3: I think they have hopes for Mims, but that's hopes,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, that's kind of like the Wilson situation.

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Speaker 3: It's incomplete. Great, he's talented, he's pretty high.

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Speaker 2: Picked, except he's actually played and done nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's had a few splash moments. I

561
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Speaker 3: don't know that Franklin will ever turn into much. And

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Speaker 3: Suton's fine, but.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather metcalf.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I think that that's a.

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Speaker 4: Good conversation that between those two rosters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I you know some of the other ones

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Speaker 2: that are on that line, Okay, I get you know, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure to talk Philadelphia's number one. And even at that,

569
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Speaker 2: they're built, they're built for the now. I don't think

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Speaker 2: people realize how much they are built to win right now.

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Speaker 3: Natively, we really study their contract in salary cap situation.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of cans down there.

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Speaker 2: I believe. Roger Goodell came out last week. He was

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Speaker 2: talking about the CBA and he was he started saying

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Speaker 2: something about we have to we might have to address

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Speaker 2: something with avoidable years.

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Speaker 4: Really stuff, it gets a little crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's it's gonna get a little hairy here for the

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Speaker 2: Eagles in a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: And what they're doing is and it's working out because

581
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Speaker 3: the league is so healthy. But you're trusting growth throughout

582
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Speaker 3: the league at a really rapid rate. And you know,

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Speaker 3: and what I'm talking about is that the cap has

584
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Speaker 3: to go up every year.

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Speaker 2: Nobody foresaw COVID, and the cap went down during COVID.

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Speaker 2: If that happened, if something like that were to happen, or.

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Speaker 3: If it just doesn't go up as much as you

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Speaker 3: I mean, if it only goes up one percent, two percent,

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Speaker 3: you know, like it just has a sort of a

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Speaker 3: flat year. There's a lot of teams that are gonna

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Speaker 3: be scrambling. I mean, the Saints are in a brutal situation.

592
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: The Browns are in terrible situation. But even a model

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Speaker 3: organization like the Eagles would get hit hard.

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Speaker 2: Hard hard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. For example, they're void guys who are on avoidable

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Speaker 2: years here in twenty twenty year, I have there, twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, okay, right, not that far down the road.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: But these guys, I mean, how many these guys are

601
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Speaker 3: gonna mention? Are gonna be stars in twenty twenty eight?

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Speaker 2: And Saint Johnson still counts seven he's not under contract,

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Speaker 2: he's an avoidable year, yeah, seventeen point five.

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Speaker 4: Million, and he probably won't be a football player.

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Speaker 2: He won't be a football player at that point.

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Speaker 3: Right right, And they're hoping seventeen million buys you less

607
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Speaker 3: bread than it.

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Speaker 4: Does now, you know what I mean, Like at the inflation, Uh,

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Speaker 4: I think A. J. Brown's a big hit.

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Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard's another four point three, Okay, Bryce huff is

611
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Speaker 2: another three, and he's he's only on a team. He's

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Speaker 2: not even on a team right now. Brandon Graham still

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Speaker 2: counts for money against.

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Speaker 4: Her, right right.

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Speaker 2: He retired this year. Yeah, they're still gonna be paying

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Speaker 2: for him in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeh, it's Bobby.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're already over twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Let alone next year, the year after, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of shit guys down here as Ezo,

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Speaker 2: Julian Brayden Man, Johan Dotson and Dorri Jackson, Kylon Grantson,

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Speaker 2: josh Ucha Kendall, Lamb, Matt Pryor, and they're not on

623
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Speaker 2: there for for big money, but they're all add them

624
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Speaker 2: all up. It's like another million and a half dollars

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Speaker 2: for guys who aren't on your rush.

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Speaker 3: And say, like the last ten names you mentioned aren't

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Speaker 3: even They're not even on a team now, right, and

628
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Speaker 3: you're still paying them in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: At some point that will catch up with the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: And one hundred percent, it's a great problem to have.

631
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Speaker 3: But these recent draft picks Jalen Carter, Nolan Space, they're

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Speaker 3: gonna need.

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Speaker 2: To be that.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna need to get paid too, you know.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Hurts is a decent buck already, you know,

636
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: to probably find a replacement for Barkley by this point.

637
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: But again, these are good problems to have. I mean,

638
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: they're a smart organization. I love that they do things

639
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: like three of their last four picks were just like

640
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 3: high upside offensive linemen that they're going to give to

641
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Speaker 3: a Munchak like coach, and if one of them hits,

642
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: it's worth it, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I really like how they.

644
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Speaker 3: Do business, and frankly, I think the Steelers have not

645
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: mimicked it, but have taken a lot of Eagle tendencies,

646
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Speaker 3: with the exception of this contract stuff pushing the can

647
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Speaker 3: down the road so violently.

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Speaker 2: For example, like they just they just gave Dallas Goddard

649
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: new money. His contract voids next year, does it? He

650
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: is twenty twenty point five million dollars against their cap,

651
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Speaker 2: and he's not under com anyway, It isn't necessarily a

652
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Speaker 2: legal Yeah, they've also got and he's a really good player,

653
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: but he's not wrong. He's not twenty million, right right,

654
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Speaker 2: Brandon Graham is four point four So there's twenty five

655
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Speaker 2: million dollars on two guys who aren't on your contract.

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Speaker 2: Brandon Graham's retired right read Blankenship is one point one million.

657
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Speaker 2: Ojulari's one point eight million. Braidon man. The guys that

658
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: we just went through who are avoidable through twenty twenty eight,

659
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: they're all over a million dollars apiece.

660
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: Even that aside, some of the guys that are under contract,

661
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: like aj Brown, have massive cap hits in the next

662
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: couple of years. I mean like forty million, fifty million

663
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: for some of these guys. There are great players and

664
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: they can always renegotiate, and frankly, I'm not a cap expert.

665
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: I mean there is ways around this stuff, but the

666
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: bottom line is they are absolutely reliant on the cap going.

667
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Speaker 4: Up and up and up it up. I mean like

668
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: through the roof. I mean you're betting on the stock

669
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Speaker 4: market to stay hot.

670
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Speaker 2: You know, at some point though, let's say one of

671
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Speaker 2: those guys gets injured.

672
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Speaker 4: That's the thing that someone will.

673
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: And somebody will that's part of the game. That's where

674
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: you run into trouble. That's where you know. The Saints

675
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: use this model. Yeah, to a large degree, kept kicking

676
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: the can down the road. The only difference was they

677
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: didn't win the championship. The Eagles of win a championship.

678
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: And you can argue, no matter what the cost is,

679
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 3: is it worth it to win a championship?

680
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 4: And I think it is. To be honest with you.

681
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: I don't see. That's where we disagree. I don't know

682
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: ram trading ten trade first round picks. Well, they got

683
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: the ring, they got the ring. Yeah, they did it differently.

684
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: This they did it different This is mortgaging. Yeah, this

685
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: is this is more Cleveland Brown.

686
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: Like yes, yes, yes, yes. And most of those teams

687
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: don't win the words, most of them don't. Miami's in

688
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: this situation right now.

689
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: And when you when you shell out that big contract

690
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: at Deshaun Watson better w and then it doesn't work out.

691
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're screwed and you.

692
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Have messed up your cap for the next four or

693
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: five years, you're going to be bad.

694
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, bad bad.

695
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Speaker 3: And I feel like I pick on the Browns a lot,

696
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: but I do because I don't agree with how they

697
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: team build or do business. And frankly, the Watson things

698
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: close to on excusable. But I look at this offseason

699
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: for the Browns and think, man, you kind of had

700
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: an out.

701
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: You hit a reset. You had a chance to hit

702
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: the reset button, unplug and plug it back in. It's

703
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 2: probably what you should have done, right, especially with your

704
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: best player demanding a trade, as opposed us throwing money

705
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: at the situation and overpay and overpay. And then you

706
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: trade the second pick and you end up with even

707
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: more picks and you know you got stuff for next year.

708
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, Wow, they might be able to turn

709
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: the corner if they can hit on these picks and

710
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: get their cap in line. And I don't like their draft,

711
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: and they just kept kicking the can down the road

712
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: with contracts and they did nothing to address their offensive line.

713
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: It's like, man, you had a chance.

714
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: To get out of the huge mistake, not get out

715
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: of but semi get it get out of jail free card,

716
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: and you refused it, and.

717
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: They'd do it.

718
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean I just saw this today that

719
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: they're the Vegas odds leader in the clubhouse to earn

720
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: the first overall pick. Yeah, and some of that's because

721
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: of the schedule and the division they're in, but I mean,

722
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: but they're playing like they'll win now, you know what

723
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: I mean. I mean that they went out and signed

724
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: running backs and they're drafted.

725
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Speaker 2: That's the casion I ended up taking a quarterback first

726
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: overall next year, which you presumably would, right, You used

727
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: two picks on quarterbacks this year, and say, what are

728
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: you doing with these four the actually three picks because

729
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: you traded.

730
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: For it, exactly right, I mean, and there what are

731
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: you gonna do with these for?

732
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Speaker 2: It just doesn't have.

733
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Speaker 4: A lot of clarity to me.

734
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, but I mean there's no doubt that

735
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: the Eagles do have a complete roster, right right, right?

736
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: But for how long? That's the question? Uh, they list

737
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: the Ravens is having the second best most complete roster.

738
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Speaker 3: I don't have a real problem with that. They have

739
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: some holes, like everybody, I don't know if the Eagles

740
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: have holes. They're they're kind of in a rare situation

741
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: where there's not a position group. I'm worried about in

742
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: Philly of major consequences. I mean, like their safeties aren't

743
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: the best in the league, but they're fine.

744
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: Detroit is third.

745
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: Let's say Detroit has to be pretty high. They've invested

746
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 3: a lot of big contracts too. They have some contract

747
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: stuff coming.

748
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: Out, some stuff coming out. It's gonna be with like.

749
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 4: The Gibbses of the world and those type of guys.

750
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: Kansas City is for think that they have a complete roster.

751
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't either, And I don't think they've drafted or

752
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: acquired players as well as people think. As well as

753
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: their win loss record.

754
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, covers up a lot of so to Spagnolo and Reed.

755
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: And Chris Jones and you.

756
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: Know Kelsey in his prime and Tyreek and those guys.

757
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 3: They've had some real overpays on free agents, like both

758
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: these tackles they have. Yeah, they haven't drafted quite as

759
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 3: well as you think. One thing they have gone for them,

760
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: which it's kind of like the Munchak you know, Eagles

761
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: O line situation is they consistently find a fifth to sixth.

762
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 4: Round defensive back and they turn them into a starter.

763
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Speaker 3: You know, Like there aren't many position groups in the league,

764
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: and the Steelers did have that with Munchak, where you

765
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: can find late round picks and an exceptional, exceptional position

766
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: coach turns them into a starter over and over. Not

767
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: just like you found a gem, but man, this guy

768
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: can take a six round pick and turn him into

769
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: a starting corner.

770
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Speaker 4: Like wow.

771
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Speaker 2: Buffalo is number five on here.

772
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 4: I'm okay with that.

773
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: I like how much they I don't love the players

774
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: they took, but I love their philosophy on defense this year,

775
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 3: to really really be aggressive on that side of the ball,

776
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 3: Like I don't know what they'll get out of Bosa,

777
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: and we didn't love Walker the big nose tackle out

778
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: of Kentucky. But I understand their vision and a lot

779
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: of it is all right, Josh, we know your offense

780
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: is gonna be good. Even if we just give you

781
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 3: competent receivers and we have given you an O line,

782
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: you're gonna score points. So we're gonna put investments on defense,

783
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: which I totally get, which is what the Bengals have

784
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: tried to do. They've been really bad at it.

785
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: Right.

786
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 4: They hasn't worked out for him, right.

787
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: Minnesota is six on this list. I agree, But that's

788
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: another one where I think Flores is such a good

789
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator that I don't think there's a lot of

790
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 2: talent on that defense, Like the Steelers defense is way

791
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: more talented the Minnesota's. But I do think that's about

792
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: as friendly of a young quarterback nest as you could envision. Yeah,

793
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: their offense, their offense plays hand in him with the defense.

794
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

795
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially now that they've they got three new interior

796
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: offensive linemen.

797
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: Because people might look at that and go, well, if

798
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: Flores is doing that with that with that defense, Yeah,

799
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: but he also has an offense and has jeff and

800
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: Jefferson and you know, yeah, they got they got studs.

801
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: You know, at different positions. They're going to score points,

802
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: score points. I mean withy or Donald. When you go

803
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 2: into a game and the opponent goes into the game knowing, hey,

804
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: they're gonna put up twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven,

805
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: twenty eight points, we gotta take some chances. It changes

806
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: how you play offense. It allows the defense to do

807
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: some different.

808
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 3: Things, which is good head coaching, which is good at

809
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: organizational structure, you know, complimentary football. But I mean, I

810
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: think people are familiar enough with Flores, but this is

811
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: true with the Spagnolo conversation we've had too is right right.

812
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: I Mean, they're two of the most aggressive play callers

813
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: defensive designers. But if coach Tomlin goes them and says, well,

814
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: we got Duck at quarterback, we got to win this

815
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 3: game thirty nine, well maybe we're not miro blitzing as

816
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: much and bring in six man pressures and overload stuff

817
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 3: because I can't.

818
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: I can't give up that.

819
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: I can't give up one home run. You know, I

820
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: got to paint the corners over and over and over.

821
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: You know, Tampa Bay is seven on here.

822
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 4: I think they're one of the most underrated organizations.

823
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: It's a pretty good roster.

824
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 3: I think they really have a vision of who they are.

825
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: One thing they do that that people don't talk about

826
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: enough is if you look at their draft picks, a

827
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: plus character guys across the board too. I mean, they

828
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: really have built a culture there and frankly, I don't

829
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: think it's ownership.

830
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 4: I think it's the GM down.

831
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: I mean, they really understand what they're They're getting the

832
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 3: most out of Mayfield. Brady chose to go there, you know,

833
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: like there's a lot going on.

834
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Speaker 4: They wouldn't division.

835
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: Every year Green Bay is eight.

836
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 4: Okay, I still think they're lacking star power.

837
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: I meant to say that about Buffalo too, other than

838
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: the quarterback.

839
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: The quarterback carries a lot of weight.

840
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 3: In Buffalo in particulars so much weight. But I would

841
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: love to see one more star in Buffalo on either

842
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: side of the ball and Green Bay. I mean, like

843
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: the receivers are good, but give me justin Jefferson, you know,

844
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 3: like their their defense is good, but Gary isn't. Garrett,

845
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like who closes out games

846
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: for you?

847
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: San Francisco is nine, and I don't agree with that

848
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: at all.

849
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: I don't either.

850
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: That is a star heavy.

851
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 3: Two top heavy, too old, and we saw it last year.

852
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: I mean they had remarkably bad luck with their the

853
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: wrong players and it went bad. I mean that team

854
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: is always all the way in or all the way out.

855
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: It seems like yeah.

856
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: And then as I mentioned Denver at ten, So I

857
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: don't I don't think the Steelers are that far off,

858
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: no no, from being included in that group. And I

859
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 2: think you know, if you.

860
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: Look at and I'm sorry, rub, but when training camp opens,

861
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: you might be like honorable mention Steelers. Two more players

862
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 3: show up at the right positions. I think you figure

863
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: out the positions, you might be like, oh, this is

864
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: a pretty solid roster. Yeah, we're right now. I think

865
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: there's a whole too, you know.

866
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to our live, ongoing coverage here from

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Speaker 2: the Steelers OTA Sessions here at the upmc rooney Sports

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Speaker 2: Complex here on Pittsburgh's south side. I am Dale Lolly

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Speaker 2: here with Matt Williamson, and just to give everybody a

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Speaker 2: rundown of what's going on here in terms of the coverage,

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Speaker 2: we will be bringing you again live coverage here from

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Speaker 2: the Steelers OTA sessions from ten am to one pm

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Speaker 2: every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday through Mini Camp. Actually, so

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Speaker 2: the Mini camp slash OTA schedules all line up the

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Speaker 2: same way. So the Steelers on the field Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Thursday starting this week through the next three weeks, so

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Speaker 2: they have six OTA sessions and then the mandatory Mini

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Speaker 2: camp is that third week that takes place on that Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: Wednesday and Thursday. Then after that they're on break on

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Speaker 2: a little hiatus there until the start of training camp,

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Speaker 2: which the exact date hasn't been announced yet for that

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Speaker 2: particular event out at Saint Vincent College in Latro, but

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Speaker 2: you can guess that it's probably going to be somewhere

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Speaker 2: around the twenty fourth of the month of July. So

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Speaker 2: as you can see there, they probably get about six

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Speaker 2: weeks off before they head to La Trope and things

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Speaker 2: start to get real, so, you know, not kind of

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Speaker 2: a truncated version of OTAs this year only six OTA

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Speaker 2: sessions the league allows up to ten, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of the teams in the league this year across the

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Speaker 2: league decided to cut that back for whatever reasons I think.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the teams, if you weren't

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Speaker 2: breaking in, you know, a new head coach, or you

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Speaker 2: weren't breaking in new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, things

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Speaker 2: of that nature, you didn't really worry as much about

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Speaker 2: having the full compliment of OTA sessions because you did

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Speaker 2: still have also the three day rookie mini camp that

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Speaker 2: took place, and so you know, if you if you

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Speaker 2: don't get a full compliment, you don't get your full

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Speaker 2: ten OTA practices in not the end of the world.

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Speaker 3: No, not the end of the world. And you probably

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Speaker 3: what you were talking about. I was just doing some

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Speaker 3: other things here for a second. Some of the teams

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Speaker 3: aren't even using all ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers being one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, I assume that's what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, they're important, and I think getting everybody together

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Speaker 3: is as important as anything, you know, and they are

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Speaker 3: doing that obviously we're looking at it and right in

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Speaker 3: front of our face. But if you miss an on

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Speaker 3: the field workout, okay, it's me with.

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Speaker 2: Like the implementation of you know, the surfaces and things

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Speaker 2: of that nature that these guys can take home, Like

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Speaker 2: even if you're not here, you get the video of practice.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right right, like you whether you look at

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Speaker 4: it or not, do whatever you want with it. But

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Speaker 4: it's all on your on your tablet, right.

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Speaker 2: You have it on a tablet. You can look at

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Speaker 2: what they're teaching, you know, and and okay there you know,

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Speaker 2: if you even if you weren't in the classroom, you're like, okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: here's here's video of coach going over what we did

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Speaker 2: in practice today. All right.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of good things that came out of

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Speaker 3: the COVID situation from that perspective too. I mean, even

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Speaker 3: like the scouting world and interviews and all that type

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Speaker 3: of thing, you can do a lot more virtual now.

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Speaker 2: It's not like it used to be. Right, if you

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Speaker 2: missed the practice, you missed the practice.

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Speaker 4: Right right. It's like my kids at school, it's like

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Speaker 4: I'm sick. Well, you can still take your test.

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Speaker 2: From my you know, right right, Okay, snow days aren't

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Speaker 2: even really a thing anymore. No, right now they just

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Speaker 2: do Okay, we have a snow day today, but we're

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Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Virtue virtual and you can take your tests from home,

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Speaker 4: and you know, it's all good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all the technology has changed a lot of

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and uh, it's just you know,

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Speaker 2: in many cases for the better. And I think and

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Speaker 2: some of these guys, but today's generation, that's how they learn,

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Speaker 2: that's how their phone constantly right.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, And maybe not all the undrafted guy and

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Speaker 3: the guys don't have money, but so many dudes in

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Speaker 3: this league have a personal trainer or a personal even

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Speaker 3: dietitian and medical staff, not staff, but have their own

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Speaker 3: people that know their body better than Steelers, do you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's their entire job. Yeah, right, that's what

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Speaker 3: they do. Yeah, you know how many of these guys

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Speaker 3: have their own chef right, exactly right, things of that

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Speaker 3: nature and tons of them, right, and they all have

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Speaker 3: a personal trainer.

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Speaker 2: Your body is your means of making a living.

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Speaker 3: I mean James Harrison is one of the more pronounced

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Speaker 3: examples of you know, steelers, but it's not as unique

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Speaker 3: as you think. I mean, I think he spent like

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Speaker 3: one hundred grand a year on his body or maybe

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Speaker 3: more than that more in that and that's a drop

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Speaker 3: in the bucket, guys. I mean that's acupuncturists and things

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Speaker 3: like that. I mean, that's your your tool. I mean

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Speaker 3: that's your If you're a carpenter, that's your hammer. You know,

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Speaker 3: when you.

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Speaker 2: Go out buy a new hammer. If you're a carpenter,

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Speaker 2: you buy a new hammer. These guys work on their bodies.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you and I couldn't do this without

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Speaker 3: our eyes and mouth, you know. I mean I could

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Speaker 3: be you know, I got a broken leg, but I

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Speaker 3: could still do you know, Like there's certain things you

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Speaker 3: need to do your job, you know, and these guys

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Speaker 3: as their body.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, but that's going to do it. For our

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Speaker 2: number one, here live from the Steelers Ota sessions here

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Speaker 2: at the upmc rooney Sports Complex here on Pittsburgh's South Side.

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Speaker 2: Matt and I and Well West Julier will be joining

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Speaker 2: us here for our number two. We'll be here for

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Speaker 2: three hours today. We'll have a player interview in our

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Speaker 2: number three once the team has come off the field.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to our ongoing coverage here live on

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Speaker 2: with more right after this