1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Ken is away. Two rounds of the moistline coming up 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: next hour and an hour five minutes into the flex alert. 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: Are you flexing? Yeah? Unplug? Unplug your electric car right now, 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: all right, don't be sucking up all that unnecessary energy. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: That's what the governor says. Gas cars are going to 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: get banned and electric vehicles can't be charged. Just go 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: out there. It's one hundred and ten. Walk stop stop complaining. 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Oh bitch, I've actually you've been watching boy almost anything. 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: You'll entertain me. If you go to uh CISO dot 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: com that's Calio, but it's CISO dot com on the website, 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: it'll tell you what the current capacity of electricity is 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: and how much we're using. And right now we are 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: using m forty five thousand, two hundred and sixty seven megawatts, 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: and we have a capacity of about fifty fifty three thousand, 15 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: and then there's an extra three thousand in reserve, so 16 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: fifty three plus three we actually have fifty six thousand 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: that we could eventually tap into. So we're doing all right, 18 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: but we're still in this state of emergency. We're still 19 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: in this flex or alert where you're not supposed to 20 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: use your plug in your electric car, got to jack 21 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: up your air conditioning. Not use a here electric stove, 22 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: can't use your laundry, can't live, don't eat, don't wash, 23 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: don't drive, just sit there and sweat naked on your sofa. 24 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: California Globe had a story Evans Simon wrote today, and 25 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: it's funny how this California Globe is one of these 26 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: somewhat subse, subversive news sites that prints the truth about Newsom. 27 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: You know, doesn't oil and greasome up the way the 28 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: el Segunda Times does, and what they have noticed because 29 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: there was a flurry of legislation and executive orders signed 30 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: in the last few days that Newsom signed an executive 31 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: order to ramp up electrical resources because of the tight 32 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: situation that we're in with energy and that he's in 33 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: since he wants to be president. So the headlines were 34 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: about some of his green initiatives, you know, all their 35 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: goals to be carbon free by twenty forty five, blah 36 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: blah blah, right, all the wet dream stuff. But says 37 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: in the California Globe that Energy, a green energy construction, 38 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: has fallen way off pace with all the fossil fuel 39 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: plant closures. And other energy sources being planned to phase out. 40 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: Newsome has been forced to do a U turn on 41 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: many policies, and the big one is, and this is big, 42 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant, which they announced the 43 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: five year extension that was they were dead set unclosing 44 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: that thing, and that at times gives you up to 45 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: nine percent of California's energy. Now, clearly we lose nine percent. 46 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: We're cooked, We're done. It'll be many blackouts. So look, 47 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: do you know how do you know how great nuclear 48 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: power would be? It is entirely clean power. When it 49 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: comes to greenhouse gases, you don't get a single wisp 50 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: of greenhouse gas coming out of nuclear energy. It is 51 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the cleanest energy out there. And because nuclear plants run 52 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, it's 53 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: not like wind and solar, because I mean, I'm looking 54 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: at a graph right now which shows when our energy 55 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: capacity goes down, it starts sliding down rapidly at sunset 56 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: because we lose all that solar power being pumped in 57 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: from the desert. Wind is the same issue. Very unreliable. 58 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: Michael Shellenberger, who we had on the show a couple 59 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: of days ago, and I've been periodically quoting. He just 60 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: puts out put out dozens of tweets the last few days. 61 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: He was an environmental activist and still has an environmental organization, 62 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: and he used to be very progressive, and then he 63 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: suddenly realized what the progressives have been demanding and doing 64 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: is suicidal for our society. You can't sustain this. It's 65 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: solar and wind or unreliable. Nuclear, however, will go on 66 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: forever and does not harm the atmosphere of greenhouse gases 67 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: at all. And he thinks a rational, intelligent society would 68 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: be building nuclear plants. End. If you really want everybody 69 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: to drive an electric car, you must build nuclear plants, 70 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of them. And he wrote in a 71 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: slong series of tweets, in order for California to have 72 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: sufficient electricity to power thirty million electrical vehicles, it would 73 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: need to build twenty new full size nuclear plants, the 74 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: size of the plants that the state has been shutting down. 75 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Tough to do with solar since people want to recharge 76 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: at night. Oh to me, that was one of the 77 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: most devastating two sentenced tweets I've ever seen, because they're 78 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: telling us to recharge at night. We only have a 79 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: half a million electrical vehicles right now, and you're being 80 00:05:54,600 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: told do it after nine o'clock, do it after eleven o'clock. Well, 81 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: if everybody was to end up with an electric car 82 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: in the state you'd need, you'd end up with sixty 83 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: times the number of cars we have now, sixty times, 84 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: which means you need twenty nuclear power plants, except they've 85 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: ruled out nuclear plants in Sacramento and solar power it 86 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: doesn't work at night. So how's this going to fly? 87 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Does anybody think this through? If they actually achieve their 88 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: transformation and everybody was driving an electric car, but there's 89 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: reduced power at night because there's no solar, and you've 90 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: closed all the nuclear plants, and you want to close 91 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: the natural gas plants, and you don't want to touch coal, 92 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: and the hydroelectric plants, what little we get from them 93 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: are diminished because of the drought. Where are we going 94 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: to go here? I mean, it's just it's such crazy 95 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: lands stuff, because, as he says, to produce the same 96 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: amount of electricity from solar would require three hundred and 97 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: seventy nine times the land area compared to what solar 98 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: takes up now. So take all the land, and there's 99 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: a lot of land out there in the desert where 100 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: they have endless solar panels, we would need three hundred 101 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: and seventy nine times that amount of land. Let's look 102 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: at wind turbines, and the wind is unreliable too. You 103 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: would need four hundred twenty one times more land just 104 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: for the wind, three seventy nine times just for the solar, 105 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: four twenty one times just for the wind. And he 106 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: writes that's simply not going to happen because the projects 107 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: would kill so many threatened birds and desert tortoises that 108 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: they'd risk extinction. So there's no way out of this 109 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: unless we use the traditional methods of generating power until 110 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: there's massive technological advances that do not exist right now. 111 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: And he also put out a tweet saying that we 112 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: now Newsom has ordered one of the state's dirtiest jet 113 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: fuel burning plants to keep operated jet fuel it runs on. Well, 114 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: that's a lot of global warming gas going into the air. 115 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: He promised to close it three years ago. There's so 116 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: much stuff he's doing. The one eighty on. He doesn't 117 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: talk about it much, but he's doing it because we're 118 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: living on the edge, on the edge of a complete blackout. 119 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: We're coming up, John and Ken show Calf. We've been 120 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the shortage of electricity and how 121 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom has done a one eighty. He's done a 122 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: one eighty on a number of environmental executive orders as well. 123 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 1: For this week, up until September seventh, waste discharge limits 124 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: from thermal power plants are going to be suspended, air 125 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: quality limits and fuel restrictions suspended. Emergency generators are going 126 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: to come online. Personal portable generators. All laws and regulations 127 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: have been suspended for the week. All ships docked in 128 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: California ports are going to use the power generated on 129 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: the ship rather than plug into our electrical system. Normally, 130 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the ships are not allowed to idle out in the ocean, 131 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: belching out their polluted waste. You know they're exhaust Now 132 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: they've changed that. You know, they have to plug into 133 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: our electrical system. But we know we're short of electricity, 134 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: so docking boats can't plug into our electrical system. That's 135 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: how short we are. You might think that, well, wait, 136 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: a second boat stocking I mean, how many of those 137 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: could there be? How much electricity could could they use? 138 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: Compared to you know, forty million people in the state. 139 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: That's how bad it is. And so he has spent 140 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: the whole week looking at how many executive order provisions 141 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: he can put into effect because of the desperate situation 142 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: with the electricity. Now he gives you happy talk about 143 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: how they're passing goals and they're passing regulations, so in 144 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: twenty forty five are going to be carbon neutral and 145 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: all green and this and that, and it's it's a 146 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: load of hooey. It's to appease the religious fanatics. I 147 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: don't know how much of this crap he believes himself, 148 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: but he does know. The religious fanatics are the main 149 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: drivers in his party. They provide a lot of the money, donations, 150 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the volunteer efforts. They could back another candidate, for example, 151 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: in a primary to sink him, and you end up 152 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: and both parties have to deal with this. You have 153 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: to deal with the fanatics, and the fanatics by definition, 154 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: are not rational people and you shouldn't be following their 155 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: policies because they have been hysterical and wrong on so 156 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: many things. In the state of California talked often about 157 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: the bad policies that have led to these fires in 158 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: the forests to get out of control what they see 159 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: because they had rolling blackouts in twenty twenty and the 160 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: state is put out and estimated four thousand megawats on 161 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: the grid that were not available back then, and that 162 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: is true because we used to have I remember a 163 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: total of about fifty thousand megawats available and now we've 164 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: got almost we got fifty three thousand, and then there's 165 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: these reserves which are somehow maybe those would take time 166 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: to access, but that brings the total capacity in a 167 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: worst case to fifty six thousand. So they've they've, they've 168 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: and it has not been wind and solar energy that's 169 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: been added here. It has been natural gas. It is nuclear. 170 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: With this plant being kept open for another another five years. 171 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: And the thing is he's getting near unanimous votes in 172 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: the legislature to keep all this stuff going, although some 173 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: are upset with Newsom for rolling back his own policies. 174 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: But like Caliso may come up to three thousand megawatts 175 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: short during much of next week. That's the danger. That's 176 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: why they're insisting cajoling you to do this this flex 177 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: time nonsense and unplug everything because if people don't and 178 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: we blow over the limit by three thousand megawatts. That's 179 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: electricity for roughly two million homes, which potentially could be 180 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: six eight million people would be out of power, and 181 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: that could create a domino effect where you end up 182 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: with many more millions out of power. There is one 183 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: environmental group leader named Heather Barnes saying Newsom is going 184 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: right back against what he promoted in the first place. 185 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: He originally wanted more environmental regulations, but faced with some 186 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: hardship based on these same policies he made, he rolls 187 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: back on them, even if only for a short time. 188 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: He's partially responsible for getting the state to this point 189 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: in the first place, and now he's approved the order 190 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: to undo some of the damage. It's crazy. He demonized 191 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: fossil fuel so much and praised environmental regulations. Now look 192 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: what he needs to do to stave off disaster. Get 193 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: rid of these regulations and give fossil fuel plants more 194 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: leeway for electricity generation. Heather Barne says we should be 195 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: happy that he wants to take a few steps back 196 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: on some of this, but he's only doing it for 197 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: an emergency and to save his own skin. He's looking 198 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: for a presidential run right well. Let's just say the 199 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: state is going dark because he went too far on 200 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: his own policies, and that would not play during the primaries. 201 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: So these temporary rollbacks are going to end on September seventh, 202 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: when the heat wave is going to recede. But if 203 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: the heat wave continues or we get another heatwave, which 204 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: is very possible in September and even into October. So 205 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: understand that he put these these ideas into effect simply 206 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: because that was where the demands of the extremists that 207 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: rule his party. But then he hit the reality wall 208 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: and he has to undo them, and because he knows 209 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: this just doesn't play. You can't you can't run on blackouts. 210 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: No one's going to get elected president. I mean great 211 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: Davis lost got recalled as governor because of the blackouts 212 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and one. And I looked up 213 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: today is I don't like to make sweeping statements, but 214 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: I can't find any other states with this problem. I 215 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: looked up, I googled state names, every possible variation on 216 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: phrases related to electricity shortage, power shortage, blackouts, this, that, 217 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: and the other thing. Texas occasionally has had problems, but 218 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: because of the same reason they went too heavily on 219 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: solar and wind. The other forty eight states don't have 220 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: any problems. They had local power outages and blackouts because 221 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: the local power companies screwed something up, or there's lightning strikes. 222 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: You know, there's the ordinary day to day challenges. But 223 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: nobody else is having the policy issues here where bad 224 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: policy is producing blackouts. That is right now singular to California. 225 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: So if you have the only state in the Union 226 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: that is having severe blackout risks is being run by 227 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: the guy who wants to be the next president's these 228 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: are terrible decisions. The Republican governors in Texas made similar 229 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: bad decisions as well, and they had a big energy 230 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: problem if you remember a couple of winters ago. These 231 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: are bad ideas no matter where they come from. And 232 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Newsom knows this now. John and Ken show, Ken is 233 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: Away Today coming up in the next segment, Deborah, you're 234 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: gonna want to this is uh. This is a sad 235 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: story about a young girl and her baby goat and 236 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: a baby goat that was taken to slaughter and playing 237 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: a prominent role, and she didn't want the goat slaughtered. 238 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: The goat was slaughtered against her will and playing a 239 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: prominent role in this story is the current Republican hubernatorial 240 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: candidate Brian Dolly. He was partly responsible for the death. Really, yes, 241 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: so we've got day you will you'll be very upset 242 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: about this, But it's a true story. It's a true story. 243 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: It's a really strange story. It's easy to follow, but 244 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: I had to read it twice because it was hard 245 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: for me to believe. Thank you. A couple of runs 246 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: of the Moistline coming up next hour or two. Now, Um, 247 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: they've got a story here. One of the things that 248 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: drive me crazy is when politicians or activists or media 249 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: people have these catchphrases, these one line solutions, and you 250 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: constantly about how, you know, we need more money spent 251 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: on mental health counselors. Counselors. We just passed a build. Yes, 252 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: we need we need to see need to have a 253 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: program to provide mental health counseling. That's what's going to 254 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: solve the homeless crisis. That's what's gonna gonna help all 255 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: the prisoners when they're released, is mental health counseling. There's 256 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: all there's all kinds of little snappy one line concepts 257 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: that they float and I have wondered for a long 258 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: time where are all these counselors. I mean, they have 259 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: a counselor factory somewhere. There's not that many people interested 260 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: in doing the work. The work is not fun because 261 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: you're dealing with crazy prisoners, crazy homeless people, crazy students. 262 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't pay very well, and there's a kind of 263 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: no end to it, because when somebody has, you know, 264 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: emotional disturbances or brain disorders or whatever, bad childhoods, drug problems, 265 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: they kind of have those problems forever. In many cases. 266 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all learn when you hit 267 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: a certain point in life, there's no changing people. The 268 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: crazy people you knew twenty years ago or forty years 269 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: ago are the same crazy people today. Finally, I saw 270 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: a story today in the Elsegundo Times which which confirmed this, 271 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: and it talks about a boy. I'm not going to 272 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: mention his name, but you know, his father was sick 273 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: for a long time, and his mother had to work 274 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot, and then you had COVID and the school's closing, 275 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: and he needed some mental health counseling through the school. 276 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: But now three years later, he's still never met with 277 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: a mental health counselor. In fact, the whole state of 278 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: California lacks the ability to deliver mental health counseling in schools. 279 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: People talk about it. Sometimes you'll hear, like the day 280 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: after a school shooting, mental health counselors were sent. Well, 281 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: maybe a one shot emergency like that, but on a 282 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: day to day basis dealing with life, there's nothing there. 283 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: In fact, California ranks in the bottom, in the bottom 284 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: five nationally, and the number of counselors working in the schools, 285 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: and you know, we have spent enormous amounts of tax 286 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: money in recent years, record amounts of money. Taxes are 287 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: at their highest point ever. Huge windfalls from the federal 288 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: government during COVID, Huge windfalls from all the wealthy people 289 00:20:53,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: in California who had great capital gains tax returns. Right, 290 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: they made so much money on their tech stocks. You 291 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: sell your tech stocks and you have to pay capital 292 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: gains on it. And so they've literally had more more 293 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: money than they know what to do with. Well, they 294 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: never spent it on mental health counseling. All goes to 295 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: the teachers, you know, And it says here, while there's 296 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: a massive influx, this is the times admitting a massive 297 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: influx of state dollars and pandemic relief funds available to 298 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: build mental health programs and hire social workers and counselors. 299 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: The labor force is simply not available and there's no 300 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: quick fixes. You simply don't have many adults who want 301 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: to do this kind of work, So it doesn't matter 302 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: even if they do have the funds, even if it 303 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: is budgeted, nobody shows up to apply for the jobs 304 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: because again, who wants to do it? Dad pay really stressful. 305 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: A lot of times nothing works. I mean a lot 306 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: of a lot of therapy and psychiatry don't work. What 307 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: they end up doing in a lot of cases just 308 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: throwing pills at people. One La Unified count counselor says 309 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: her name is Belinda Barragan. We're bombarded and the community 310 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: agencies are also overwhelmed. I started figuring this out some 311 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: years ago when there was this run of stories about, 312 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, little kids in La County who were severely 313 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: beaten and abused by their mothers and their mother's boyfriends. 314 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: You know those stories. We've covered all of them in detail, 315 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: and there were all these counselors that didn't show up, 316 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: didn't care didn't take the children out of the home 317 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: all the basic things you think they do. And part 318 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: of the reason was, well, their caseload is so heavy 319 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: and they get burned out. Well, the caseloads have because 320 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: nobody wants to do those jobs. That's why the caseload 321 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: is heavy. I mean, these places aren't mismanaged, and a 322 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: lot of these people get jaded and burned out and 323 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: stopped caring about the kids. So you know that clothes. 324 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: Locking down the schools not only destroyed their education for 325 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: many children, also destroyed their mental stability. The rates of 326 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: anxiety and depression among children has shot up seventy percent 327 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. Suicide rates among California 328 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: youths increased by twenty in twenty twenty. Good work closing 329 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: the schools down. Huh yeah, you saved lives. Excellent. All 330 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: the kids who have trouble learning in school ended up 331 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: having even more trouble learning in school. So LA Unified 332 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: for this past school year, set aside one hundred and 333 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: seventy seven million dollars. They're gonna hire nine hundred social 334 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: workers and mental health workers. A year later, only one 335 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: third of the workers had been hired. The superintendent, Alberto Carvalho, 336 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: said the move was a lofty idea that was never 337 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: going to succeed. I think we knew at the time 338 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: there'd be little opportunity of filling those positions. So you 339 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: get a big headline by saying, well, Larry finally going 340 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: to spend one hundred and seventy seven million dollars and 341 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna have nine hundred social workers, and we're going 342 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: to address all the emotional problems caused by the lockdowns, 343 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: the due to the overreaction over the pandemic, and just 344 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: the cruelty on the part of the teachers not shown 345 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: up for work for a year and a half. Right, 346 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: we'll have mental health counseling, you know, we'll be able 347 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: to work out the problem. No, they didn't. Nobody even 348 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: nobody even showed up to apply for the job. Two 349 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: thirds of the openings are still there. Newsom announced the 350 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: state's going to spend almost five billion dollars to improve 351 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: mental health for young people after decades of neglect. Well, 352 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: where are you going to get the people for those jobs? 353 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: He says. The system has self evidently failed and continues 354 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: to fail. We have a lot of work to do 355 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: to turn around. That's not going to happen overnight. Of course, 356 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: of course it's going to fail. The government can't be 357 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: a mental health counselor for every single child in the state. 358 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 1: It's up to the parents to raise their kids and 359 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: keep them mentally healthy and stable. Part of that is 360 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: not closing the schools for a year and a half, 361 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: not allowing the schools to be closed, not overreacting, and 362 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: not panicking to a virus that barely harmed any children 363 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: in the entire state. When we come back, young girl, 364 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: all she wanted is to keep her baby got alive, 365 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: but it got slaughtered. And the current Republican candidate for 366 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: governor has a major role in this story. Shocking the truth. 367 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: Coming up after five o'clock, we're going to talk more 368 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: about the flex alert, the energy shortage, and more from 369 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: Michael Schellenberger. Things that he's written as to practically why 370 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: the wind and solar energy is not going to work 371 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: for us, and it's already not working, but there's there's hard, 372 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: concrete reasons here. It's not opinion, it's just the way 373 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: physics works. And we'll get to that. Um Are you ready, 374 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: deb Whomi Now? I can't hear you. There's something going 375 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: on with my headphone, so I won't be able to 376 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: hear the story. So sorry you can't. Yes, I'm ready, 377 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: ready to I'm depressed. No, I'm not here to tort you. 378 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: It's just it was. It was a big story today 379 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: and a Sacramento b You're always torturing me. H, Well, 380 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: it's about Cedar the goat. Cedar the goat was sold 381 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: in June at the Shasta County Livestock Auction. This was 382 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: the county fair. But the family that owned the goat, 383 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: the little girl who owned the goat, Jessica Long, had 384 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: second thoughts, and they wanted the goat back, and they 385 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: were offering to pay for any losses to keep the 386 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: animal for being slaughtered. Okay, and so the way the 387 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: story goes, in April, Jessica Long's family bought a four 388 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: month old goat and took it to their home in 389 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: Shasta County, and Jessica's daughter named it's Cedar, and the 390 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: girls started feeding for it and carrying it, bonding with 391 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: it the way you would bond with a puppy. The 392 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: little girl was enrolled in the local four h chapter program. 393 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: You know, they have it for young people, and so 394 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: she took Cedar. Cedar is a white goat with chocolate 395 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: markings to be exhibited at the Shasta County Fair, the 396 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: livestock auction. But you know what that means when you 397 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: auction off livestock. Yes, whoever claims it is gonna kill 398 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: it needed. Before the auction began, the family tried to 399 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: back out because the little girl wanted to keep the goat. 400 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: That's fair. Somehow, I don't know if she didn't realize 401 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: exactly what was happening here, but I'm sure she didn't realize. 402 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: And at that moment, you know, the auction was going on. Well, 403 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,719 Speaker 1: I guess you know. They made They made the request 404 00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: before the auction started, but the fair officials refused. They said, no, 405 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: you've already submitted Cedar the goat, and he's going up 406 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: for auction, and they said, look, we'll pay to get 407 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: him back. No. You know who bid for it was 408 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: someone representing state Senator Brian Dolly, who is the Republican 409 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: candidate for governor. Now, nobody knows him because as far 410 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: as I know, he's never campaigned in southern California, he's 411 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: never come on our show. He does exist. He is 412 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: a legislator up there. But he the campaign. I don't know. 413 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: Maybe he just wanted his name in the history books 414 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: that he ran for governor. But he's not actually acting 415 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: in any way like he wants to win. But anyway, 416 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: his rep paid nine hundred and two dollars for Cedars 417 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: meet who eats goat? All people do? I like lamb, 418 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: of course you do. So after the auction, the little 419 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: girl realized that Cedar was going to get the big chop. Uh. 420 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: She would not leave Cedar's side. Oh, John. They have 421 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: filed a lawsuit, federal lawsuit, and in the lawsuit it 422 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: said she loved Cedar and the thought of him going 423 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: to slaughter was something she could not bear. She was 424 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: sobbing in his pen standing beside him. I'm reading from 425 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: the lawsuit here, and she told her mother she didn't 426 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: want Cedar to go to slaughter. Then they actually have 427 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: a picture of Cedar the goat before the animal was seized. 428 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't believe that this little girl 429 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: was not given back her goat. And I'm a little confused. 430 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Didn't the parents explain to her what was going to happen? 431 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: Why don't I don't missing here, Yeah, I don't know. Well, 432 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: what happened is, before Cedar could be killed, the family 433 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: decided to take Cedar away. They grabbed Cedar, and they 434 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: took the goat to a farm in Sonoma County. They 435 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: were hiding the goat because the mother was afraid that 436 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: everybody in the neighborhood was going to be upset because 437 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 1: they take their goat auction seriously up there, and they 438 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: take the four age program for the kids seriously, and 439 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: to them, there's no emotional issues here. It's like you 440 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: raise the goat to slaughter it, to eat it, and 441 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: the four age program teaches you how to care for 442 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: the goat. And then you know, we had the auction. 443 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: Somebody pays money. And but honestly, maybe I'm really naive 444 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: or ignorant or both, but I didn't know that people 445 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: really slaughter goats here their meat. Here's how serious it is. 446 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: According to the lawsuit, plaintiffs live in an agricultural community 447 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: and they feared that deviating from the four h program 448 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: by resisting the slaughter would upset other four aged members 449 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: and community members. Yeah. Rules are rules, you know. Rules 450 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: are meant to be broken so that it gets even better. 451 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: So the livestock director at the fair BJ Macferlan McFarlane, 452 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: excuse me. BJ McFarlane called Long and threatened mom with 453 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: a grand theft charge if Cedar was not returned. Oh 454 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: my god. Long was desperate. She continued to offer to 455 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: cover any losses and reached out to Brian Dolly's office Right, 456 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: the state Senator for help. Right and Senators Dolly's people said, well, 457 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: we're not We're not going to resist your efforts to 458 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: save Cedar from slaughter. In other words, we're you know, 459 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: if you want to save Cedar, we're not going to 460 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: get in the way. But it looks like they didn't 461 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: do anything to help. Long road a letter trying to 462 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: get them to understand his human beings. Her daughter was heartbroken, 463 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: didn't want Cedar killed. Three of her grandparents had died 464 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: in the last year. She was already shook up. But 465 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: despite all that, the fair officials and b. J. McFarlane 466 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: called the Shasta County Sheriff's office. According to the lawsuit, 467 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: two sheriff's deputies left their jurisdiction in Shasta County, drove 468 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: over five hundred miles at scene, and absurd. Oh, come on, 469 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: crossed six county lines and confiscated the young girl's beloved 470 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: pet goat, Cedar after she decided not to auction him. 471 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: Cedar was her property, she had every right to save 472 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: her life. But Cedar has been slaughtered. Oh you know, 473 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: oh oh this gets me so mad. This is this 474 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: is so ridiculous. I don't even know what to say. 475 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how Brian Dolly runs for governor. Now, well, 476 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about the political ramifications because 477 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm a news person, so I'm going to have to, 478 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, refrain myself here. But somebody's not getting your vote. Um. Yeah, 479 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: he was eighty two pounds. He sold. He sold for 480 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: eleven dollars a pound, for a total of nine hundred 481 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: and two dollars. And it's so sad. Eight. I'm so upset, John, 482 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: I know, I understand. This is not how I wanted 483 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: to end my work day. This is not how you 484 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: wanted to head into the holiday weekend. Eleven bucks a 485 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: pound is cheap? Is it a goal? Again? Again? Who 486 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: eats goat me? Really? Apparently South Asian and Caribbean cuisine 487 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: has a lot of goat? Mean, isn't isn't a lot 488 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: of Middle Eastern and Middle Eastern. Yeah, Middle Eastern, sure, wow. 489 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: But apparently goat meat can range from thirteen sixty three 490 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: to eighteen twenty four per pounds, so eleven per pounds 491 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: that's pretty cheap. It's a good deal there. And you 492 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: know what I don't understand. Here's this little girl in 493 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: her family. They're desperately trying to keep this baby goat. 494 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: They're going so far as to do all the different 495 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: things that they were trying to do. You you couldn't 496 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: let this one goat slide. I'm I'm just thinking of 497 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: all the people who call up the police and sheriff's 498 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: deputy when there's real crime happening. Exactly homeless people are 499 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: screaming on their front lads waving machetes, and you can't 500 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: get anybody to come. But the stolen goat, Yeah, that 501 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: will get somebody five hundred miles they drove. All right. 502 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm laughing. It's not funny. It's 503 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: very not funny at all. It is very sad. All right, 504 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: More coming up John and Ken Show. Deborah Mark has 505 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: the News caf. I am six forty