1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Past play Goad. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast, the show where 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: we explore music history on foot, sometimes virtual, and often 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: taking a walk in person. We're available at all the 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: podcast destinations, Apple, Spotify, iHeart, and the podcast Playground. If 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: you like Taking a Walk, please share it with your friends. Today, 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: our host, Buzz Night talks with a man who has 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: one of the greatest gigs of all time. Joe Spalding 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: is a Boston institution who oversees one of the most 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: iconic music institutions in the world, The Box Center, known 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: for years as the Wang Center, home to not only 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: some of the greatest concerts ever, but also home to 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: the Folk Americana Roots Hall of Fame. Join Buzz Next 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: with Joe Spalding. 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: Well, Joe Spaulding, It's so great to have you on 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: The Taking a Walk Podcast in person. 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very honored to be here, Budd. 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 3: One of my great joys about the Taking a Walk 19 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: Podcast is connecting with new friends, but reconnecting with old friends. 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: So I've hit the jackpot. I'm reconnecting with Joe Spoulden. 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: I'm at one of the greatest venues of all time, 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: in the Wang Center, The Box Center and we're also 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: here for the first time. I'm seeing the Folk and 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: Americana Museum, so I've really hit it out. 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Of the park. 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 5: Well, we're thrilled that you're here, and we are currently 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: sitting in one of the exhibits called the Music Hall. 28 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 5: And if you remember, back in the old days when 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 5: you and I were both a little younger, I used 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 5: to come to then the Music Hall rather than the 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 5: Wang Theater to see all kinds of shows, and so 32 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 5: it's kind of fun to go full circle and come 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 5: back and now have the world's only Folk Americana Roots 34 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame right here in the Wang Theater. 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: So I'm going to put you on the spot right 36 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: out of the gate. 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: What are some of your personal favorite either music events 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: or just artistic events that have happened at the. 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 5: Way Well, you know, it's I'm asked that question buzz 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 5: all the time, all right, And it's a little hard 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 5: to answer because I've been the CEO here for thirty 42 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 5: eight years, right, so my staff tells me I've seen 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 5: over seven thousand constances and events and all kinds of stuff. 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 4: So I have. 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 5: Personal favorites, and they happened even before I even. 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: Contemplated be here. 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 5: I mean I first saw Kat Stevens here in like 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 5: nineteen seventy, right. I saw Bruce Springsteen here in nineteen 49 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 5: seventy ish when he was playing on stage, was just 50 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: acoustic guitar and a cello player, right. And I've seen 51 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 5: the Alman Brothers in The Great Dead, and I've had 52 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 5: them back all right several times during my career, and 53 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 5: so I think the most memorable concert though, for me, 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 5: was a couple of years ago, twenty fourteen, when we 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 5: had use of Kat Steven's back when he was touring 56 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 5: and he only played six theaters in the world, and 57 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 5: Wang was one of them, because he really enjoyed being here. 58 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: And back in those days in the seventies, Kat was 59 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: opening for America, all right. And that's a funny story 60 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 5: because I spent the night under the marquee here at 61 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 5: the then Music Hall to try and buy my ticket 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 5: and guess who was sitting right next to me, Ernie 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 5: Back Junior. And that's like fifty years ago, right, And 64 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 5: so I could figure out how we got to the 65 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: box office window and he ended up in the first 66 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 5: row and I ended up in the balcony. I have 67 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 5: subsequently figured out how Ernie did all that. And one 68 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 5: of my great pleasures in life before Ernie stepped up 69 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: the be the Box Center was I got Ernie hooked 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 5: when I brought back Kat Stevens, and I put Ernie 71 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 5: in exactly the same seat that he was in that 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 5: many years ago. So I've had the opportunity to do 73 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: a lot of things that way, you know, opening a 74 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 5: fanom of the opera, opening with Saigon, being the first 75 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 5: city out of New York for rent the musical to 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 5: many concerts that continue on today. In fact, last week 77 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 5: I had a real special one and his name was 78 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 5: Ed Sharon played here right before he played Jillette Stadium 79 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 5: for two sold out shows. So it has been really special. 80 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 5: And they all have a combination to the Hall of Fame, 81 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 5: and they all have an affinity to this theay. 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: So tell me about the genesis of the museum. 83 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 5: Well back in two thousand, probably seventeen eighteen, you know, 84 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 5: when you're doing this for a living for all these years, 85 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 5: and you know, you know, I was back from one 86 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 5: of the founders of Great Woods, go back for. 87 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: Other than that, and so listen, it was a it 88 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: sort of evolves. 89 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: You have to be able to change right, And as 90 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 5: consolidation has gone and the live nations have gotten bigger, 91 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: and you know, the ages have gotten bigger, and you 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 5: know you are We're a nonprofit performing arts center. We're 93 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: our own little entity here in the city at Boston, 94 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 5: representing all of New England. 95 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: And so you have to. 96 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: Think outside the box. So what are you going to 97 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: do when all this consolidation is going to go on? 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 5: So in twenty nineteen, I actually came up with this 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 5: crazy idea to open a Hall of Fame. And because 100 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: of my years of experience, I have friends who run 101 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: the Country Music Hall of Fame, in Rock and Roll 102 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, in the Grammy Museum, and so I 103 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 5: went around and I visited all these places and decided 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 5: that geez, we really could do this. And I went 105 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 5: looking for a venue, but I had Neil, you I'm 106 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 5: playing here at that time, and Neil said to me, 107 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: I don't think you should go anywhere. Why would you 108 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 5: want to leave the building? Why don't you put it 109 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: in the place that we all perform? And I thought, wow, 110 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 5: that was an interesting idea to go and discover that 111 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 5: I had fifty seven thousand square feet of available space 112 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: with nothing in it, and I said, okay, let's do 113 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 5: it actually in a performing arts fault, and no one 114 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 5: has ever. 115 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: Done that before. 116 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: So we got that Neil Young show first of all, 117 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: which was the only time I ever saw Neil, which 118 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: was such an amazing show. I have goosebumps just thinking 119 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 3: about that moment. 120 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: But so Neil prompted me. 121 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 5: Well, so he prompted it to the sense that you know, 122 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: and that after we had the conversation, he got up 123 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 5: on the stage twice in that conversation and said to 124 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 5: the audiences on both nights, you know, Boston is is the. 125 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: Folk capital of North America. 126 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: And I thought to myself, my god, he's actually saying 127 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 5: that kind of thing. And then he put it in 128 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: his blog and I said, okay, we're in. So now 129 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 5: we've got to figure out how the hell we're going 130 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 5: to pull this off, right. Well, I had some really 131 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 5: good friends. I'm David bieber an all time friend of ours, yeh, 132 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: and David bieber archas you know, we decided, okay, well let's. 133 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: Try to look at this. And you know, I've. 134 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 5: Had a long career as a singer songwriter too, and 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 5: so I knew most of these players. And so when 136 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 5: you look around the music hall and you see Ron 137 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: Panel's pictures, or you see Robert Corown's picture of Bob 138 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: Pete Seeger, or you see the famous ones of Peter, 139 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 5: Paul and Mary, and you see all the artists that 140 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 5: are on the wall here. 141 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: Every single one. 142 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 5: Of those artists played here, all right, and actually some 143 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 5: of those pictures are of them playing here. And so 144 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: this gave us the genesis of saying, Okay, here's what 145 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: we're going to put together. So then we decide, okay, 146 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: you got to have good people. So we, you know, 147 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 5: made a deal with a group called the Museum Collective, 148 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 5: which is Bob Stantelly who used to work at the 149 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: Country Music Hall of Fame, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 150 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 5: Paul Allens, popular ran the Grammy Museum for fifteen years, 151 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 5: now runs the Bruce Springsteen Archives. And we banded together 152 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 5: with Dena McLeod from the Woody Gutherer Center in Tulsa, 153 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 5: and we went out and we went to the world. 154 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: Everything that you're going to see today, buzz on your 155 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 5: walk has been delivered by the artists, all right. So 156 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 5: nothing's been purchased, everything's on loan from the States from 157 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: Pete Singer's original banjo to Tom Rush's guitar that I 158 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: saw him play in nineteen sixty eight with the naked 159 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: woman on the fret to Tom Schultz's guitar from Boston. 160 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: They're all here because the artist thinks this is a 161 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: good idea. 162 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 6: You have a great advisory board also for the museum, 163 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 6: long list of some notorious figures that are part of 164 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 6: that talk about some of that group. 165 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 5: Well, that was that was That was fun too, all right, 166 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 5: Because there used to be an album in this in 167 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 5: this case right over here buzz and it had it 168 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: had a picture of Noel Paul Stookey from Peter Paul 169 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 5: and Mary on releasing his first album that wasn't Peter 170 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 5: Paul and Mary, all right, And it was called Bodyworks. 171 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: And in that picture is a gentleman with a tying. 172 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 5: Coat with a long, darker beard than mine is today, 173 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 5: with a little bit darker hair than I had then. 174 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: And forty five years ago I was arranged. He was 175 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 5: a friend of mine and I had recorded at his 176 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: studio in Blue Hill, Maine, and I had you know, 177 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 5: he was a mentor to me, and I helped do 178 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 5: that album cover shot and we had the record here 179 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,239 Speaker 5: in part of the hall, and Noel came on board, 180 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 5: and you know, we were friends with Joan and you know, 181 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: Betsy Siggles is from around here too. You know, I 182 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: could just go on and on and on, and they 183 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 5: all said, yes, I want to be a part of this. 184 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 5: And we then had a big gala and all the 185 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: artists came, they all performed. We raised like three hundred 186 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 5: thousand dollars, and then COVID came and we shut down 187 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 5: for two and a half years. 188 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: So how are things post COVID. 189 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: Well, that's the fun part about this thing. You know 190 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 5: when you look at the history of the Country Music 191 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame, and I'm only going to use as 192 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 5: one example, but most people don't know the Country Music 193 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. This, you know, like fifty nine years old, right, 194 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 5: and it started a long time ago, you know, when 195 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 5: when Broadway wasn't quite like what Broadway is today in Nashville. 196 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: And you know, we've actually reopened in September of two 197 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: thousand and twenty one, twenty two, all right, last September, 198 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 5: and we now have seven exhibits going. We're ahead of 199 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 5: the game of where my sisters and brothers out there 200 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 5: have no long struggle to get to where they are today, 201 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 5: and today Country Music Hall of Fame is quite something, right. 202 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: It's a lot of tourists. Our model is not. 203 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 5: Quite the same because we're a living, breathing, performing arts center. 204 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 5: So it's not general admissions that you're going to the 205 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 5: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or the Country Music 206 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame. You've got to come and make a tour. 207 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: You've got to book a tour, you got to go 208 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 5: on a tour. And if we have artists playing here, 209 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: you can't go to certain places, right. But we even 210 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: put exhibits backstage, and why do we do that so 211 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 5: that when artists come, they actually don't rarely come to 212 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 5: the front of house, so they get a chance to 213 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 5: walk right from their dressing room right into our little 214 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 5: gust exhibit that you'll see today. 215 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: We're Life in six. 216 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 5: Strings, which is Ernie Box's guitar collection, and they say, 217 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 5: holy mackerel, this thing really does exist. Would you like 218 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 5: my guitar? And the answer is yes, Neil, we would. 219 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 5: So that that's how it works. 220 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: We had on the previous episode Paul Kingsbury actually from 221 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: the Country Music Hall of fame, so he sort of 222 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: took us through as the I guess the curator or 223 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: historian there. So is it fair to say you are 224 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,239 Speaker 3: the Paul Kingsbury of the Folk in Americana Museum. 225 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 4: Well, at the moment, that is true, all right, and. 226 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 5: I am and I have a great team in Bob'santilly 227 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 5: and Dana McLeod and David Bieber and others that have 228 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 5: been And you saw the advisors, Yeah, they're these are 229 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: famous musicians that play you know, Bob Crawfords and the Ataputhers, right, 230 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 5: so are Avid Brothers if you want to. 231 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 4: And it's it's been really wonderful that way. 232 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 5: And so they had helped to spread the word, right, 233 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: and as you spread the word, it takes time to build, 234 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 5: but it's helped us get artists to come. So it's 235 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 5: you know, when you're competing against and it's not competing 236 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 5: because we promote and present with Live Nation. 237 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: And aug but you know we're having to battle MGM. 238 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 5: Fenway and we're having a battle road Runner, and you 239 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: have to balance between the pavilion and here and are 240 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: there enough artists? And you have to do that all 241 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 5: day long, and then we want to start our own 242 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 5: proprietary program which we just we just had our first 243 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: festival was called Wastest and we had Don Wass. 244 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: You know who. He is one of the most famous 245 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: producers in the world. 246 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 5: And we had a festival for four days and it 247 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: was a huge success. So we're feeling pretty blessed at 248 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 5: this moment. And so we're ten eleven months back open 249 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 5: and things are going along very. 250 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: Swimmingly at this particular and we're opening. 251 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 5: Two new exhibits, two in all in September September thirteenth. 252 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 5: One is Bruce Springsteen, which will be in both spaces 253 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 5: backstage and on the third floor. We're opening the Legends exhibit, 254 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 5: and the instruments that we're going to have and the 255 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: memorabilia have been in the Smithsonian, they've been in the 256 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: National Museum for African American Music and Nashville. 257 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: They've been in other venues, but they have never been 258 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: in the. 259 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 5: Same place at the same time as they will be 260 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: at the Folk American Roots Hall of Fame in September. 261 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: I love it. I love it well. 262 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: Can you take me around to the room here that 263 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: we're in first and share some of your thoughts and showcases? 264 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: Sure? 265 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 5: So you know, I was mentioning that one of the 266 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 5: things I always do when I do the tours myself, 267 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 5: which is rare these days, but I go to people 268 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 5: like you. We've been in the business a long time. 269 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 5: So you look at that album cover and. 270 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: One of my favorites of all ten music from Big Pink. 271 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: That's the music from Bank Pic. 272 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 5: But as your audience knows, there's no the band on there, 273 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: and there's no music from Big Pinck. Right do you 274 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 5: know why that is? 275 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: No? 276 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: Okay, well, that looks like a pretty good illustration original, right, 277 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 5: So then you walk around here and I say, well, 278 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 5: so let me just tell you who did that. 279 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 4: So here's the self portrait. Can you read what it 280 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: tells me? Right there? 281 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: I think that says Bob Dylan. 282 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: That is exactly correct. So here's mister Dillon's picture. And 283 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 5: mister Dylon painted that picture of the music of Big Pink. 284 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: Bingo. 285 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 5: Okay, so bingo. That's how you try to tie these in. 286 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 5: These guitars you see here are these a Brebners. And 287 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 5: you know he was in the Modern Lovers, he was 288 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 5: in Robin Lane and the Chartbusters. He created this as 289 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: a hobby and right before he died unfortunately of a 290 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: heart attack. He donated all these guitars to the Hall 291 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 5: of Fame. And you know these are sort of interesting 292 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: when you look look at these to decide okay. You know, 293 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 5: it stimulates thought, right, and you keep going around the room, 294 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: and you know, these are the famous pictures by Robert Corwin. 295 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 5: And this is of Pete Seeger and banjo. When you 296 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 5: go to the third floor. His original banjo is now 297 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 5: on the third floor, and it hasn't been anywhere in 298 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 5: a decade or more. 299 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: It's been sitting inside a vault, but it's here. 300 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 5: And these are all Ron Pannell's pictures which we were 301 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 5: talking about early or on, of Neil Young, all playing here. 302 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: So he's played here over fifty years. Right now, I 303 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 5: love this picture over here. 304 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: Instance we're friends. 305 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 5: Everybody comes in and says, oh my god, look at 306 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: the This is in the Wang Theater. You can see 307 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: everybody's up and going like crazy, and they all want 308 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 5: to know who was the act. And I didn't really 309 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 5: want to tell him that this is ten inch nails 310 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 5: because it has nothing to do with folk Americana roots. 311 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 5: But the idea was it's a beautiful picture and you'll 312 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 5: see it on the third floor where we have pictures 313 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 5: of Billy strings playing here and others. 314 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: But this does sort of connect in that didn't Trent 315 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: Resner he'd work with Johnny Cash, Yes. 316 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: He did, so it all sort of comes back. 317 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 5: Well, that's the point of folk Americana, roots whole thing. 318 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 5: So everything started with roots, all right, and then it 319 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 5: just blossomed out and you know at Shecheron walked to 320 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 5: the front of the stage after he played with his 321 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 5: band and then did his hits, and then he walked 322 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 5: to the front of the stage, unplugged his guitar, walked 323 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 5: away from the mics, stood in the front stage of 324 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 5: the of the wing, looking at thirty five hundred people, 325 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: and said, I am a folk artist. I have always 326 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 5: been a folk artist, and I'm going to sing you 327 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 5: an Irish folk song that my grandmother taught me. And 328 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 5: then he sang it a cappella. It's great and you 329 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 5: could have heard a pin drop. So he talked about 330 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 5: the experience of being an artist where I'm now going 331 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 5: to play this hit song, but I used to play 332 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 5: this song just the way I'm going to play it 333 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 5: for you now in bars and nightclubs. For twenty years 334 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 5: and nobody listens and you threw things at me. Now 335 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 5: I'm going to play it and you're going to sing 336 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: it back to me, which they did, and. 337 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: That's the point. It grows from where it is. 338 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 5: But ARX keeps us a civilized society, and the music 339 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 5: and the history of that does the same thing. And 340 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: then if you keep going around the room. This is 341 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 5: a famous picture of mister Dylan and Al Cooper at 342 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 5: Newport Folk, and Joni Mitchell at Newport Folk and Peter 343 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: this is the most famous picture of Peter, Paul and Mary. 344 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 5: And look how young Nola's Nole's now my friend, he's 345 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 5: eighty three years old, eighty four. He makes me look 346 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 5: you know, I'm only seventy two. He looks fifty right, 347 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: and I'm walking around limping. 348 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: And have the energy of a fourteen year old. 349 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 3: Well, well I shouldn't say that, you have an energy 350 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 3: of somebody who's a year and a half old, who 351 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: has that boundless energy, because we know some fourteen year 352 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 3: olds just stay in their room and play video game. 353 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: That's that's exactly right. 354 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 5: So then we mix it up with a lot of 355 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 5: stuff that David Bieber has in his archives, and you know, 356 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 5: famous pictures of Jody and a lot of her stuff, 357 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: and you know she's been here and she played one 358 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 5: of her last concerts was here. And Mark Spector, who's 359 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 5: her manager, is a very good friend manager of Graham 360 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 5: Nash as well, and all these are so we just 361 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: presented Graham Nash at the Cabot and the Music Hall 362 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 5: and hopefully having them back here. And then the purpose 363 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 5: of this wall, and this wall is about to come down, 364 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 5: so you're probably seeing it for the last time. All 365 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: these artists, you know, from Modetta to Doc Watson to Jody. 366 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: These were all here. 367 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 5: Kat Stevens nineteen seventy four, Bruce Springsteen seventy eight, John Prime, 368 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: you know, so all of these are artists. Then came along. 369 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 5: Look at Brandy right now. Brandy's the biggest artist on 370 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 5: the planet right now, right and this is heard that 371 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 5: the Life is Good festival and can right. She was 372 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 5: just a levet levitate this past weekend. And then the 373 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: idea of this was that you have established new and 374 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 5: the newer. 375 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 4: That artists never changed. 376 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 5: The old artists are the past, and the newer artists 377 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 5: are the presence and the ones that are coming. 378 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: You got to nurture, right, and that's what the Hall 379 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 4: of Fame is about. 380 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 5: And then again over on this side, and you know 381 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 5: we have Leonard Cohen's Lifetime Achievement Award, lots of memory, and. 382 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 4: So you can spend a lot of time here when 383 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 4: you come back. 384 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 5: And isn't it interesting as you get up and go 385 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: around to other spots in the building, you're going to 386 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 5: see exhibits that the public sees every time to come 387 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 5: to a concert. 388 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 4: So when thirty five hundred people were here for Ed Sheeran. 389 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: They're wandering the thirds and the fourth floors and down 390 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 5: here and through the cultural heroes and seeing all of 391 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 5: the exhibits that they can see. But they don't have 392 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 5: any time, right, So what do they do? They book 393 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: a tour and they come back, and that perpetuates what 394 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 5: we're trying to do. 395 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: It's brilliant. 396 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 3: This this poster here, that's my old radio station. 397 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 4: That I was part of. That is exactly correct many years. 398 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 3: This is ninety two nine WBOS the Holiday Concert Indigo Girls, 399 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: Amy Mann, Tuesday, December tenth. 400 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what year that was. 401 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 5: But you know what that Isn't that the funniest thing 402 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 5: I've now noticed it that I when as I collect 403 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: all this memorabilion, I'm trying to decide what it was. 404 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 4: None of us dated the. 405 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 5: Things, right, you know? How stupid of that was that 406 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 5: we didn't say, you know, twenty nineteen, nineteen sixty four. 407 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 5: We just didn't do things like that, right, We just 408 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 5: it was saying, this is what's happening. It's happening now, 409 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 5: it's awesome. And look, this is my friend Chuck McDermot 410 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: and Wheatstraw. Chuck is on the Hall of Fame board 411 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: and I don't know if you remember him, Boston artists. Sure, 412 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 5: smart businessman politics, you know, went into environmental and energy. 413 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 5: Now is making records again in his seventies. How cool 414 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 5: is that? 415 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: I noticed bird home and an old friend that you 416 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: reminded me of. 417 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: Is he still active? 418 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 4: He's very active with us, very active with us. 419 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: He was Almond Brothers. 420 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: He still is Almer Brothers. 421 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. Manager, So can we go out of this room 422 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 5: and go to the cultural heroes? 423 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely? All right? 424 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'll just do that and then I'll let 425 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 5: you guys wander on the third floor. 426 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: I don't know how much time we have, but we 427 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: have time. 428 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: Time's on our side. 429 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: So. 430 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 5: In the lower lobby, and they're not lit up at 431 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 5: the moment, and I apologize for that. I went to 432 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 5: Nashville and we were a sponsor of the Americana Music 433 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: Festival down there, and we worked with Jed Hilly who 434 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 5: runs that, who's a great friend and a great guy, 435 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 5: and he's really made that come to life. It's a 436 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 5: great event, and so we're very involved in that. 437 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 4: And in fact, we're going. 438 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 5: To be announcing very soon our inaugural class that's going 439 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 5: to be inducted into the Hall of Fame, and we're 440 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 5: going to announce it just before Americana, and many of 441 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 5: the artists are going to be there, and we're going 442 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 5: to do a workshop on the Hall of Fame at Americana. 443 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 5: But I'm down in Nashville and I'm told by one 444 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 5: of our other friends who's on our board, Doug Yaeger, 445 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 5: who's our sort of theater historian, granted village guy, said 446 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 5: you got to go see this guy named Alan Laquire. 447 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 5: He's a sculptor. And I said, well, why the hell 448 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 5: would I go and do that? And he said, because 449 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: he has the cultural heroes And I said, what are 450 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 5: you talking about? He said, these huge head busts all right, 451 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 5: of his cultural heroes, his culture heroes. And I said, well, 452 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 5: who were they? Well, they were Lead Belly, they were 453 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: Woody Guthrie, they were Billie Holliday, they were Paul Reared, 454 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 5: and they were Josh White. They were you know, all 455 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: Paul Rose said, all of these cultural heroes. And I 456 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: went and I went to a studio and here they were. 457 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 5: So look buzz as you walk by, this is about 458 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 5: lead Belly. And look at the eyes. Look at these 459 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: look at them. And so when those Perkins kids were here, 460 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 5: they were touching it all right, and being able to 461 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 5: find you can shoot a QR code tells you the music. 462 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 5: We bring kids down here on tours and they sit 463 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: here in the lower lobby and they take a break 464 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: from the tour because the tour takes about an hour 465 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 5: and a half, and they then can study what's going on. 466 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: Why did these people, you know, change the world. Every 467 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 5: single one of these people in this room has a 468 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 5: United States post stamp. Now Jerry Garcia doesn't have one. 469 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 5: I don't have one, okay, but they all do, all right. 470 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 5: And yet all of these people were thought of as communists. 471 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 5: They were leading you know, revolts they were all about 472 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: but they were all about diversity and inclusion back in 473 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 5: the twenties, all right, And so I said, my god, 474 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 5: we've got to have these in Boston. Would you loan 475 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 5: them to us? And they did awesome. So they're here 476 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 5: and they represent. 477 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: What we do. 478 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 5: So in this room, which is the Lower Lobby, it 479 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: will be the Hall of Fame. So all these walls 480 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 5: spaces will have the names of all the classes as 481 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: the years go on, and the cultural heroes. You'll be 482 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 5: amongst the cultural heroes. Isn't that a pretty cool idea? 483 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 4: Terrific? 484 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 5: And you know here in Boston we talk about you know, well, 485 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 5: you know we're doing we sometimes are referred to is 486 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: a racist city and we're sometimes not and we're working 487 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 5: hard to change that. 488 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: Well, this is our small. 489 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 5: Way of which we can say this is really especial 490 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: and important. So we do concerts in here, we do 491 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 5: readings in here. In fact, Bert Holman has a friend 492 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: Alan Paul, who just wrote the new book on the 493 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 5: Almand brother This is going to be having a speaker 494 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: series in here later on in the fall. So we're 495 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 5: doing all those kinds of things and making it really 496 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 5: fun that way. 497 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 4: Has a tremendous presence for sure. Yeah, I could feel it. 498 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 5: So the tour sort of starts from here, yeah, and 499 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 5: then moves backstage and moves on to stage. And we're 500 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 5: using the stage too. So the long term plan is, well, 501 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: you don't get a chance to go to the stage, 502 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 5: but we have the second largest stage house in the country. 503 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 4: It's huge. 504 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you don't really notice it how big it is. 505 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 5: It's huge. I can see seven hundred fifty people for 506 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 5: dinner on the stage if I wanted to, right, and 507 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,239 Speaker 5: sometimes we do. But we're going to use it as 508 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 5: exhibit space as well, and so we're designing the exhibits 509 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 5: to go and container cargo type things where the door 510 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 5: opens up on one side it's all air conditioned on 511 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: the inside, and the AMIDIVALI and all the rest of 512 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 5: that stuff and the exhibits in and then a forklifts 513 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 5: cut up and stacks it at the back of the stage. 514 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: So when there isn't a concert, we just take the forklift. 515 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 5: Well, put things on the stage, and you get to 516 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 5: look at exhibits on the stage. 517 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 4: It's kind of clever, right, So I think that's what 518 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 4: we've been attempting to do very cool. 519 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: Awesome. 520 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: Does that work? It's perfect? And there's shows that here. 521 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: We do events, smaller events. 522 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: Yep, that's what I'm saying. We do concerts. And we 523 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 5: just had Chuck McDermott that his record release learning. So 524 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 5: if we have more time, we'll go to the third 525 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 5: floor if you want. 526 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 4: I got a few minutes. Yeah, if you do, I 527 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: do all right. 528 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: Your energy is amazing, Joe, Well, what did you have 529 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: for breakfast? 530 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 5: I haven't had breakfast. I spent two hours commuting, So 531 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 5: so we shut down a lot of people. I let 532 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 5: go about seven hundred and fifty people. I ended up 533 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 5: keeping fifteen and we took attact, which was unusual tack 534 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 5: those were dark shut We did the ghost LIGHTE series 535 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 5: all right, and if you haven't watched it, you should. 536 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 5: It's on our site, right and from that people were 537 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 5: blown away. And I didn't do it live streaming yet. 538 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 5: I actually got it on broadcast, so Joe and Adam 539 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 5: and we helped get it on NBC Boston and NECN 540 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 5: and Telemundo. They all went at the same time, and 541 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 5: they were half hour specials, ten of them, and they 542 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 5: were highly successful, raised three four hundred thousand dollars that 543 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 5: kept us going. So then you just rode in one 544 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 5: hundred year old elevator, this elevator, but it took me 545 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 5: two and a half years during COVID and three million 546 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 5: dollars that I had to race to do get these elevators. 547 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: So you no longer have to hand crank them and 548 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 5: push the button. 549 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 4: They're modern. 550 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 5: We just went to the third floor, and they had 551 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 5: never gone to the lower lobby. 552 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: So we took the third floor. 553 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 5: So this this was a hallway, and the hallway you're 554 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 5: about to see was completely empty, nothing, it was just space. 555 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 5: And we decided, all right, let's start and create Boston 556 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 5: a music town. Why is Boston a music town? And 557 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 5: let's get memorabilia, and let's do more than that. Let's 558 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 5: show folk, blues, bluegrass, rock, classical, hip hop the whole 559 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 5: nine yards, right, And that's what started. And this was 560 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 5: the second exhibit that we did, so Music Hall, the 561 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,239 Speaker 5: Cultural Heroes, and third exhibit and this one here and 562 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 5: this space, as you can see, has really nothing in 563 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: it at the moment, but it will in September. This 564 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 5: is where all the legends guitars, so we're gonna have 565 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 5: lead bellies guitar, Josh White's guitar, Oscar Brand's guitar, Robert 566 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 5: Johnson's guitar. We're gonna have all that here when he's fiddle. 567 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 5: And here's Pete Sandgerre's banjo. Right, look at that all right, 568 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 5: So you saw the picture in the musical, but now 569 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 5: you see it in real life. 570 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: This is the This is the original one, right. 571 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 5: Pete had a second one made because this one was 572 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 5: so heavy that when he got older he couldn't really 573 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 5: it was just didn't work as well. So he has 574 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 5: another one. So we're gonna have both of them. 575 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: You know. 576 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: I had your mcalcanan on a few episodes back, and 577 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 3: I asked Yorma the question about his first connection with 578 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 3: finger picking, and he took this amazing story that even 579 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 3: before he played guitar, his father, Jorma's father took. 580 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 7: Him backstage after a Pete Seeger show and he actually 581 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 7: asked Pete to hold up his hand because he was 582 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 7: so fascinated by, you know, the hand and the fingerpicking. 583 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 1: Jorma said, I told Pete that story years later. He 584 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: wasn't as impressed as I was. 585 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 5: Well then, so then we created this wholeway and here 586 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 5: here is. 587 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: You know, all kinds of stuff. 588 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 5: So here's you know, Time magazine with Joan Baias on 589 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 5: it and you know, representing a lot of the artists 590 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: that were there. Here's the guitar of Tom Rush that 591 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 5: I was talking about. This is really one of the 592 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 5: reasons I got into being a singer songwriter because gee, 593 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 5: Tom Rushing, young, long hair, big bushy mustache. Women were 594 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 5: screaming and yelling and he's playing the guitar with a 595 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 5: naked woman on it, singing Jony Mitchell songs. And I said, Jesus, 596 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 5: I want to do that as a little right, And 597 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 5: so we've taken and created here honoring each one of 598 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 5: the different genres as you can see. And nowhere has 599 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 5: anyone ever done hip hop in a Hall of Fame, 600 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 5: and we did. And there's a reason that most people 601 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 5: don't know this in Boston. So the hip hop archives 602 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 5: are at the University of Massachusetts, Boston, right in our 603 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 5: own hometown, right, And that's very important, and it's very 604 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 5: important to represent this genre of music as it's very 605 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 5: it was critical. 606 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: Here we got rock. 607 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 5: But at the same time we're doing this is a 608 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 5: drop kick Murphy stuff, right, and their newest album is 609 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 5: all acoustic, and it's all what do you got three songs? 610 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 4: Right? 611 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 5: So here's Boston's party band record in Nashville. What he 612 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 5: got three songs acoustically? 613 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: Amazing? 614 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 4: All right? 615 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 5: And here is Joe Perry's famous aerosmith guitar. 616 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 4: Isn't that really cool? Look at that? 617 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: It is beautiful? 618 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 5: And there he is playing it and he doing delivered it, 619 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 5: you know, right, and you go down and here's my 620 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 5: friend Peter Wolf's stuff. And that was a funny story too. 621 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 5: Peter delivered them and he told me what he was delivering. 622 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 5: And then I said, but Peter, there's no the murders 623 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: weren't there. Weren't in the when you brought it over. 624 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 5: He said, oh god, I left it in the in 625 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 5: the trunk of the car he drove back. Okay, Rico 626 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 5: Kassicks jacket, look house, I mean I couldn't even get 627 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 5: that out of my arm. I mean he must have 628 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: been very thin, right. And here's Tom Schultz's guitar as well, 629 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 5: and again jazz classical, Leonard Bernstein's Jack at Tucks, Keith 630 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 5: lockhart sneakers. 631 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: You know, so what a great exhibit this is. 632 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 5: And and this sort of brought to life of what 633 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 5: we're trying to do, right, And there's another one on 634 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 5: the fourth floor that features a lot of new artists 635 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 5: pictures that we've been over the years recently to show 636 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 5: that the you know, new artists are coming on. And 637 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 5: then we're adding guitars and that kind of stuff this 638 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 5: summer up there. 639 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: And so that's a brief history of this. What a 640 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 4: tremendous place to visit. 641 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: We have a lot of Boston listeners to the. 642 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 3: Podcast, but we have people from all over the country 643 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 3: and globally. So you think anybody who's listening to this, 644 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 3: if you're planning a trip to Boston or you're just 645 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 3: thinking about it, you know, try to do a way 646 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: to come book Listen. 647 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 5: We're trying to become a really new cultural destination, right 648 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 5: and we're being success us look at that. So the 649 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 5: state government says this is really important, all right, and 650 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 5: so they've been supporting us in the budget. Meet Boston, 651 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 5: which does all the conventions and all that. Absolutely, we 652 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 5: want to market this, We want to help you get 653 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 5: this known. We want people coming from overseas, we want 654 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 5: them staying in the hotels, we want them going to 655 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 5: the restaurants, and that's what we're attempting to do. And 656 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 5: we or A as an organization put about eighty million 657 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 5: dollars into the local economy anyway each year. So now 658 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 5: this is adding a new component. 659 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: It's tremendous. 660 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 5: I first thought that was my head, but then it 661 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 5: didn't have the ball spot, so I knew it wasn't 662 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: my head. 663 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 4: But this is a night when we had Billy Strinths 664 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 4: beautiful sound. 665 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 5: Look at the view as you can see, nobody's everybody 666 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 5: was standing. 667 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: So Joe, do you think about what you do and 668 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 3: pinch yourself every day? 669 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 4: Yes? 670 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 5: I consider that I have the best job in the 671 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 5: entire world. And people do ask me. Well, as we're 672 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 5: looking in the Grand Lobby, they say, so, what gives 673 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 5: you the most pleasure? I like to stand in the 674 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 5: low's level watch people come in and they walk through 675 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 5: the doors, get into the Grand Lobby, and everybody does 676 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 5: one thing. They all look up right and the smile 677 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 5: goes on their face and they're excited. And then you know, 678 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 5: as you know because you've experienced the same way I have. 679 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 5: This is a unique venue between the artist and the audience, right, 680 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 5: and the sound is impeccable. This building is about to 681 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 5: be one hundred years old, right, and it's impeccable. And 682 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 5: so you know, here you have that ability to change 683 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 5: people's lives every single day. It's almost like doing God's work. 684 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 5: But you know, you stimulate thought. And you know, if 685 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 5: you believe, as I do, that a creative person is 686 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 5: a better person, then I get to do that every 687 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 5: day in my life. And that's pretty cool. And I'm 688 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 5: thinking about slowing it down a little bit, and you know, 689 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to I'm playing my guitar more and 690 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 5: more again. And I don't think I'm going to be 691 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 5: right in that way, but I enjoy just keeping up 692 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 5: with it, right, So I think I got the best job. 693 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 4: In the world. 694 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 3: So in closing, we often ask guests on the podcast 695 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: where would we be without music? 696 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 5: We would be nowhere without music, all right. Music has 697 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 5: changed and will always make the world change and evolve always, 698 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 5: and it's not going to go away, right. So there 699 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 5: was a period during COVID when there was a there 700 00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 5: was a move that Live is never coming back, all right. 701 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 5: I absolutely thoroughly oppose that idea Live was coming back 702 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 5: and going to come back in a vengeance because we 703 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:15,760 Speaker 5: all need that, and good news as I was right. 704 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: Joe Spalding, thank you for this amazing time. 705 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 3: You could tell I've had a smile on my face 706 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: the entire time here at the Weighing Center, the Box Center, 707 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 3: and the Folk in Americana Roots Museum. 708 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: And thank you for being on taking a walk. 709 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 4: I'm thrilled to have been a buzz and great to 710 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 4: see you again. 711 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 712 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.