1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Ooh, i'come back in our number three 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. Buck is in Scotland with 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: his lovely wife Carrie. He will be back Monday. I 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: am with you this week. I will be with you 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee Tuesday and Wednesday. We're doing an awesome event 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: at the Paps Theater eight o'clock, getting a copy of 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: my book, and we're going to have a big discussion 10 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: about the future of the Republican Party and the twenty 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: twenty four race and what I think is of all 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: the states out there, the most consequential Wisconsin. If I 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: could pick one state and know the results for twenty 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: twenty four in one state, I think I could predict 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: the entire election just by knowing what happens in Wisconsin. 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't see a pathway to the Republicans winning in 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: twenty two twenty four that does not include a victory 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. The math just basically doesn't add up. I 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: think Georgia and Arizona will flip back, and then we 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: will need at least one Midwestern state, Nevada, is also 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: in play. By the way, don't forget that state super close. 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: In twenty just elected a Republican governor. In twenty twenty two, 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: Nevada did the only state in fact where a statewide 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: office holder lost as the incumbent in the entire country 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two was Joe Lombardo won the governorship 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: of Nevada. The Republican one Nevada. That is it in 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: terms of flipping either a Democrat or a Republican office holder. 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: So Nevada will be in play. But one state. If 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: you told me, hey, focus on this one state, it 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: would be Wisconsin, and we will be there tomorrow doing 31 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: the show live from our affiliate. You can get your 32 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: tickets at Clayandbuck dot com. If you're going to be 33 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: in the state of Wisconsin, or you are traveling to 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Milwaukee for the Republican debate which will be taking place 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, you can get hooked up there. WISN 36 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: is our affiliate in Milwaukee. We appreciate all of you 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: listening there right now where we are number one in 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: that city and I look forward. I've never been to Milwaukee. 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: We're going to be doing the show Tuesday and Wednesday 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: from Milwaukee. I will be up there. Should have a 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: really good time, so can't wait to hang out with 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: all of you. In that event, we're talking about the 43 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Republican primary. We also just had a caller in Michigan 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: who said that he would not vote Republican if Trump 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: is not the nominee. A lot of you weighing in 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. I 47 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: will get to many of your calls here in this hour, 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: but I wanted to hit I mentioned that I would 49 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: do this earlier in the show. I said that Joe 50 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Biden is more credibly accused of committing crimes while in 51 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: office of a significant level than Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, 52 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: and Donald Trump were credibly accused in their terms in office, 53 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: and yet the media by and large is mostly ignoring it. Why. 54 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a sec, but first I 55 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: want to say the biggest lie that you are all 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: being told, that we are all being told you notice 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: every time you read about Hunter Biden in the New 58 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: York Times, in the Washington Post where they talk about him, 59 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: buy and large on CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, you 60 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: know what they say. They always say this, there's no 61 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: evidence that Joe Biden was involved. There's always a line, 62 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: oftentimes a paragraph where they say and also video written. 63 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: They always say there's no evidence that Joe Biden was involved. 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: That is one hundred percent a lie. There is lots 65 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: of evidence that Joe Biden was involved in Hunter Biden 66 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: and the Biden crime families' behavior. And some of you 67 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: may have heard me. I think it was Sunday of 68 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: last week, so eight days ago. I was on Fox 69 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: News and I laid out on their Sunday morning program 70 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: exactly why that is a lie. And let me just 71 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: lay it out for you here, because I think this 72 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: is consequential. When they say there is no evidence Joe 73 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: Biden was involved with Hunter, here's what they're overlooking. Ten 74 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: percent for the big guy. Tony Bobolinski credibly accused Joe 75 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: Biden of getting ten percent of that deal that was done. 76 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: My dad is sitting next to me. Remember that WhatsApp 77 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: message from Hun Biden, you better pay. That was what 78 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden said to his Chinese business associates. Devin Archer 79 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: has testified that Joe Biden was involved in at least 80 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: twenty calls to business partners, and Joe Biden has met 81 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: with and even attended dinner with some of Hunter Biden's 82 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: business partners. The Beisma prosecutor who was fired says Joe 83 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Biden got him fired. Joe Biden even bragged that he 84 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: did it. Beisma was being represented by the brand, as 85 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Devin Archer said, which was the Biden family. That's why 86 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: they were paying so much money to Hunter Biden because otherwise, 87 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: you notice how nobody's ever actually able to produce any 88 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: work product from Hunter Biden. Now, if you have a 89 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: lawyer and you pay that lawyer millions of dollars, the 90 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: lawyer will be able to produce typically a lot of 91 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: work product. There'll be memos. There will be a lot 92 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: of memos. If you're paying millions of dollars, there will 93 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: be documents that were filed in court. There is a 94 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: tangible work product that reflects the work that you did. 95 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything from Joe Biden. A Russian oligarch 96 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: paid three and a half million dollars to Hunter Biden 97 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: and the Biden crime family after meeting with Joe Biden 98 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: and was left off of the sanctions list. There is 99 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: tons of evidence. As I started this program laying out 100 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: all of the Department of Justice cover ups. Now you 101 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: can believe, and this is just some of the evidence 102 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: that I just laid out, you can believe that this 103 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: evidence does not rise to the level of criminality. But 104 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: there is a ton of evidence that Joe Biden was 105 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: involved with Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family. So 106 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: anytime you are hearing someone in media say there's no evidence, 107 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: and they almost do it in every single article that 108 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: they talk about, that is a lie. There is actually 109 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: tons of evidence that Joe Biden was involved. Now, some 110 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: of it can be circumstantial. There may not be necessarily, 111 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: in your opinion, a direct smoking gun. But when you 112 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: put together a lot of circumstantial evidence, it becomes highly 113 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: unlikely that all of this was just occurring and there 114 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: was no connection. And this is one of my favorite 115 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: legal examples of circumstantial evidence. We have this idea because 116 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: people will try it out there who are defense attorneys. 117 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: And for the record, I've been a defense attorney, so 118 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: I've had this job before. There are lots of times 119 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: people say, oh, that's just circumstantial evidence, which is different 120 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: for it. By the way, that's the next step that's 121 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: probably coming. There's tons of evidence. So every one of you, 122 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: whenever you hear somebody say there's no evidence, you should 123 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: push back, as I did on Fox News on that 124 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: television broadcast. You can say, it's not evidence significant enough 125 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: to demonstrate that a crime has occurred, but there's tons 126 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: of evidence that Joe Biden was involved with Hunter. The 127 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: next step is going to be, oh, it's circumstantial evidence. 128 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Circumstantial evidence is not bad evidence, and a lot of 129 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence is actually very credible. And one of my 130 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: favorite examples of circumstantial evidence is if you were testifying 131 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: on the witness stand and you sat down and it 132 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: had snowed a foot overnight. You couldn't and you slept 133 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: all night, You went to bed at ten o'clock and 134 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: there wasn't a bit of snow that had fallen, and 135 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: you woke up at six am, and when you pulled 136 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: back your blind Remember when you were a kid, how 137 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: that would happen when you thought there might be a 138 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: snow day. If you ever lived in the South like 139 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: I did, and snow meant you were out of school, 140 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: you would wake up and you would turn those blinds, 141 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: or you would rip open that curtain, and you would 142 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: be praying, I hope there is snow all over the ground. 143 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: You would just be begging for it with every fiber 144 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: of your being. You know why you would do that 145 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: because you had gone to bed and it was supposed 146 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: to snow overnight when it typically gets colder, and you 147 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: didn't know if the snowfall was actually going to happen. 148 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: So when you yanked open those blinds, or you yanked 149 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: open that curtain and you looked outside and you saw 150 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: the snow, you if you sat down and were testifying, 151 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: could not testify that you saw it snow because you 152 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: were asleep all night. But you could testify that when 153 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: you went to bed there was no snow on the ground, 154 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: and when you woke up there was snow on the ground. Therefore, 155 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: your testifying about snow is circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence can 156 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: often be very reliable evidence. Even if you didn't see 157 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: it yourself. Between ten pm and six am, somehow a 158 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: bunch of white stuff ended up on the ground and 159 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't Hunter Biden's birthday party, it's probably snow. That's 160 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence. There is tons scads an absolute onslaught of 161 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: evidence that Joe Biden himself was personally involved in the 162 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: Biden crime family. So every time you are being told 163 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: there is no evidence it is a lie, there is 164 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: plenty of evidence. You might not find it to be substantial, 165 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: and by the way, it's far more credible than any 166 00:10:54,080 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: of the evidence of criminal behavior. But against Clinton, Nixon, 167 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: and Trump, why is it that suddenly the media turns 168 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: blind and doesn't pay any attention at all when Joe 169 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: Biden is involved because they went after Bill Clinton. They 170 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: went after Bill Clinton in a big way. I think 171 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: it's a function of the new media environment we have. 172 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: Now. 173 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: I've written and talked about this a lot. I'll tell 174 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: you about it a little bit more. We'll take your 175 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: calls close out the show, continuing to have you guys 176 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: reacting to what we've talked about so far. The Washington 177 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: Post in the New York Times are now subscription businesses. 178 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: They would lose all of their subscribers if they actually 179 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: told the truth to them. I really think that's what's 180 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: going on. 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Scott, 215 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: what's up, my man? 216 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: He love the show. So the one thing I sit 217 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: back and I listen to this data and day out. 218 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: It's been ever since the Bragg indictment in January. It's 219 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: all Trump all the time for obvious reasons. But the 220 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: problem is, at that point in time, I think thirty 221 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: two thirty six Trump DeSantis the Stantus hasn't done anything wrong. 222 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: His Campegne decided knocked his it back against Donald Trump 223 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: when all of these absurd criticisms came out against him. 224 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: Wanda Santis is the same guy he was for four years. 225 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean, he became enemy number one for the woke 226 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: media after twenty twenty and got pounded, and then when 227 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: he decided to run for president. The only thing that 228 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: changed is not his personality, not his message. The only 229 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: thing that changed all day every day it's defend Trump, 230 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: defend Trump, which I understand that that's in the news. However, 231 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: the American people are flocks of sheep. They follow, so 232 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: when they turn on the news for ten to fifteen 233 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: minutes on the way to work or whatever, it's all Trump, 234 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: all the time, and the stantis needed to fight back. 235 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: But the point is that the news media would come 236 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: out and say the obvious. Even I think you know this, 237 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is not a great candidate for twenty twenty four. 238 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: He's not a great general election candidate. He never has been. 239 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: When this is when this is over and the general 240 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: election campaign is going on. Of the ninety one you 241 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: got it up about Hunter Biden. But of these ninety 242 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: one indictments, they may not be criminal. Some of them. 243 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: None of them are presidential for the most part. But 244 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: let's just say three or four of them have some 245 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: merit either way. When Trump SOMTV me for two hours 246 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: at a time, you know, whining about this stuff, or 247 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: when people actually hear the prosecution's case. If you have 248 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: you know, independent suburban women, many Republicans say, yeah, that's 249 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: not we really don't want this again. So Ron de 250 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: Santus is clearly the number one choice. He's the same 251 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: guy he's been the reason why he's his personality. It's 252 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: a serious situation to him. I mean, this is serious. 253 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate the call. So your argument basically, and 254 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: you guys out there are fifty to fifty split on this. 255 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: The callers argument is that trum can't win in twenty four, 256 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: which is the exact opposite argument from our guy in 257 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: Michigan who called in earlier this hour or at the 258 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: end of the last hour and said, if it's not Trump, 259 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to vote. So there is right now 260 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: listening to us, fifty percent of the audience roughly that 261 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: believes only Trump can win, and fifty percent of the 262 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:30,359 Speaker 1: audience who believes Trump will lose. That's basically the Republican 263 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: electorate right now. My position is, whomever the nominee ends 264 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: up being, you better go vote for him because they're 265 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: going to be way better than Joe Biden or whomever 266 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats put forward. And it was let's see who 267 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: was It was Carl and Grand Rapids that I said, look, 268 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: you got to show up and vote. I think that 269 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: was the end the first the second hour, and Tom 270 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: and Warden Illinois wants to defend him. Once you got 271 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: for us, Tom Man, thanks for taking my call. 272 00:16:59,280 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 273 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 5: Uh, it took a while to get on the show, 274 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: but like I said, thank you. 275 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 276 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 5: I was in the store when the previous caller talked 277 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 5: about not voting. And I know I'm in a little 278 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 5: small community in Illinois, and I talk to a lot 279 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 5: of people, and what I'm hearing from the people is they, 280 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 5: first of all, they believe that the Republican base as 281 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 5: well as the representatives need to stand up for Donald Trump. 282 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 5: And what I'm hearing from people is if Trump is 283 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 5: not the candidate, he does not win the primary. Most 284 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 5: people I talk to, he says they will not even 285 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 5: vote in the election. And the ones that says they 286 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 5: will vote in the election, will write Donald Trump in 287 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 5: is the candidate. 288 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate that call, and if Trump is the nominee, 289 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: I will go vote for Trump. I think, with all 290 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: due respect to every single person listening right now, if 291 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: you refuse to support the Republican nominee because you are 292 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: upset that your candidate isn't the selection, and by the way, 293 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: that can be if your candidates desantus. If your candidate's Trump, 294 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: if it's Tim Scott, if it is Vivek Ramaswami, Chris Christy, 295 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: Mike Pence, Nicky Haley, whoever that candidate is, I think 296 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: you are a total and complete loser who is behaving 297 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: like a child, because then you are supporting someone who 298 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: is far worse to lead the country in a fit 299 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: of childlike anger. Writing a book not easy. I've written 300 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: several now takes a lot of work. Dutch menden Hall, 301 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: our friend at rad Diversified, has become an author as well. 302 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 1: His book's called money Shackles. 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David writes in He's a VIP. 312 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: You castigated a Trump caller for saying he would not 313 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: vote for another Republican candidate. You called him a loser 314 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: and worse? Did I call him a loser and worse? 315 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: I definitely called him a loser. What's worse than a loser? 316 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: Maybe a cry baby? 317 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 5: Maybe? 318 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: So? 319 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: Okay, it's accurate. I never once heard you call out 320 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: Carl Row, Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, George W. Bush, McConnell 321 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: for sitting out the twenty twenty election. Why is that? Well, 322 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't on this show in twenty twenty, and I 323 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: endorsed Trump as aggressively as I could. But yes, anybody 324 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: who sits out an election that Trump is involved in 325 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: is a loser too. If you I can't believe, I 326 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: have to say this. Some of you are like sports 327 00:19:54,680 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: fans who are so committed to your team that you 328 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: don't have any ability to see the larger context. I 329 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: am looking beyond the primary. We've got a ton of 330 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: great candidates. I don't know who's going to end up 331 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: being the nominee. I'm fortunate. I believe to have met 332 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: almost every one of the candidates face to face, and 333 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: I think we've had every one of the candidates on 334 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: this program. We certainly have invited everyone, but everybody who's 335 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: in like the top eight or nine, they've been on 336 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: this program. I will vote for any of them over 337 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and I will be excited to go. I 338 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: am old school. I like to go on election day, 339 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: and I like to go down and I feel incredible 340 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: to cast my vote for president as I did in 341 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Trump. I will be ecstatic to do 342 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: it for Trump again in twenty twenty four or any 343 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: of these other candidates, because they are all far better 344 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: than Joe Biden or who ever the Democrats might put 345 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: forward now. To be fair, I would be honest with 346 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: you guys, if let's say Mike Pence were the Republican 347 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: nominee and RFK Junior were the Democrat nominee, I might 348 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: well vote for RFK Junior, and some of you are 349 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: going to be fired up about that. I would rather 350 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: a candidate be honest to me and be right one 351 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: hundred percent about COVID. Then I would a candidate lie 352 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: to me like I think Mike Pence has on this program. 353 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: But I would vote for Mike Pence against Joe Biden, 354 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: and I would be excited to do it. That's because 355 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: to me, the analogy that I would put forward is 356 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: if you are choosing not to support someone based on 357 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: the nominee, that's like being a member of a football team. 358 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: On Thursday afternoon, I changed my signing time so that 359 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: I could go watch my se seventh grader play on 360 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: his tackle football team. And I watched that game. And 361 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: they're playing like every Thursday for the next six or 362 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: seven weeks, and I'll go watch almost all of them. 363 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: I think I'm out of town this week. I'll be 364 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: at every other one. I talked to my son afterwards. 365 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: Got a lot of different players that are coming in 366 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: seventh grade football. You're rotating in different talent. You've got 367 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: to perform at your highest ability, no matter who the 368 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: quarterback is. My son plays wide receiver, okay, If he 369 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: ran his routes different based on who the quarterback was, 370 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: he would be an awful teammate. If a kid on 371 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: their team blocked differently on the offensive line based on 372 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: who the quarterback was, he would be an awful teammate. 373 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: If you are not willing to go vote for a 374 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: Republican candidate against Joe Biden because you're upset about who 375 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback is and you're willing to miss blocks on 376 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the offensive line, or you're willing to intentionally fumble the 377 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: ball if it gets handed off to you as the 378 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: running back, or you don't run the right routes as 379 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: the wide receiver, in my opinion, you are being an 380 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: awful teammate because your job is to execute, to try 381 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: to make the team the best possible version of itself, 382 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: no matter who the quarterback is. If you are listening 383 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: to me right now and your position is if Donald 384 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: Trump's not the quarterback for this team, then I don't 385 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: care anymore. I'm just gonna leave. I'm gonna quit the team. 386 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: I think you're a loser. I do. And by the way, 387 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: if your position was if Donald Trump is the quarterback. 388 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna vote Republican. I'm gonna not show up 389 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: because I think Ron DeSantis needs to be the nomine 390 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: or Vivey Gramaswami, or whoever it might be, Nikki Haley, 391 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: Tim Scott, any number of candidates. Then I think you 392 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: are being a loser because you're not putting the best 393 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: interests of the country forward. If you're not voting at all. 394 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: And I understand that a lot of you in the 395 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: middle of the Republican primary engage in emotional thinking. To me, 396 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: that's like being a Democrat, because Democrats are always giving 397 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: over to emotion. They aren't being logical. Oh that person's 398 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: feelings are hurt. Let's change the First Amendment so that 399 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: we don't hurt their feelings anymore. Oh, that person has 400 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: a different opinion than me. They shouldn't be able to 401 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: have a job anymore. That's childlike emotional thinking. Some most 402 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: people get up set guarantee you right now, if I 403 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: check my minsance, people are upset. Oh, you got to 404 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: talk the truth to people. You got to keep in 405 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: mind the big objective here. You've got to be aware 406 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 1: of what is at stake when you are turning on 407 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: your own side and claiming through emotional blackmail, well, I 408 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: just won't even show up if my guy's not the choice. 409 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: You're the equivalent of a guy who either decides to 410 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: quit the team because he doesn't like how the team's going, 411 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: or you just intentionally put forward a slipshot effort and 412 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: you let your quarterback get decked because you're upset at 413 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: who's taking the snap. That's just not going to be me, 414 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: and I don't think it should be you. I think 415 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: you should be focused on being the best version of 416 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: yourself and advocating to your best ability for the best 417 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: possible candidate, whether it's president, whether it's representative, whether it's 418 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: school board member, all of it. And the only way 419 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: you can do that is by showing up and voting. 420 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, I get frustrated, directly, straightforward, transparently. If 421 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: you are out there listening right now and you are 422 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: of the opinion as some callers are and some listeners are, 423 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: I won't show up if my guy's not the choice. 424 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: Then I think you are a big part of the 425 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: problem with the direction of the country because by March 426 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: eight nine months from now, by March of next year, 427 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: we're going to know who the nominee is, and everybody, 428 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: no matter who you show up to caucus for in Iowa, 429 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: or who you show up to vote for in New 430 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: Hampshire or South Carolina or Nevada or wherever you may 431 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: be across the country, I'm gonna go vote in Nashville, Tennessee, Franklin, Tennessee, 432 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: to be specific, right south of Nashville, Tennessee, in my 433 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: local precinct. I'm going to show up and vote. I 434 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: think it's March fifth. I think Tennessee votes on Super Tuesday. 435 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go vote for who I think the best 436 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: nominee is. It may already be decided by then, it 437 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: might not, I don't know. And then whenever that nomination 438 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: is decided, and I think by March nineteenth that the 439 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: absolute latest we will know exactly who the Republican nominee 440 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: is going to be. I am going to work as 441 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: hard as I possibly can to get the Republican nominee 442 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: elected because I think Joe Biden or someone even worse 443 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: than Joe Biden potentially is going to be the nominee 444 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: for the Democrats, and I think whomever we put forward 445 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: for the Republicans, it is going to be incredibly important 446 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: that we win, because if we do not, I think 447 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: that we are going to be in real trouble. Dave 448 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: in Georgia, what you got for me? 449 00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 5: Hello? 450 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: Hello? I appreciate and totally agree with your analysis of 451 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: what a Trump's supporter should do if he is not 452 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: the nominee, and I am frustrated by abo. I understand 453 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: the anger the Trump supporters might have if it occurs, 454 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: but staying away is no answer, and you've articulated why 455 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: it isn't. I'm calling because in the state of Georgia, 456 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: it probably is under the radar most people. But there 457 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 2: was a runoff for two Senate seats yep, and one 458 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 2: of them was the unexpired term of Johnny Isaacson, who 459 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: had had to retire for health reasons. Another was for 460 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: a six year term. And during the time that Trump 461 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: was challenging the election, as he had the right to 462 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: do up to a point at least, he was actively 463 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: challenging the honesty and integrity of the election process in Georgia, 464 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: and in effect, if not by actual words, and I 465 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: can remember and can't quote anything, but he was discouraging 466 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: people to go vote in that runoff and it cost 467 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: Georgia two Republican seats, which has done unfold carnage and 468 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: damage to this country. And so if the Trump voters 469 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: focus only on what to do about voting for Trump, 470 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: they need to understand the other very serious implications on 471 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: down ballot k of races that was caused because of 472 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: his behavior in discouraging voters who were loyal to him 473 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: to stay home. 474 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, Thank you for the call. 475 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: In Georgia. I think the single number one criticism that 476 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: you can make of Donald Trump, in my opinion, is 477 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: exactly what he just said. The number one. When the 478 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: double runoffs happened in January of twenty twenty one, we 479 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: lost control of the Senate, and as a result, Joe 480 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: Biden was able to spend trillions of dollars more, which 481 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: drove inflation up to nine percent and now has your 482 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: mortgage rates over seven percent because we've had this skyrocket 483 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: interest rates to try to deal with that massive increase 484 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: of inflation. Directly, trillions of dollars in debt were spent 485 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: because we lost those races, and Trump was not the 486 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: biggest and best advocate for those two Georgia Senate runoff 487 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: races because he was focused on what happened in the 488 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: state of Georgia and was upset about the outcome to 489 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: those elections. That's the truth. We lost two Senate seats, 490 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: which cost the Republican Party control of the Senate and 491 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: allowed Joe Biden to ram through trillions of dollars in 492 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: additional spending that otherwise would not have been possible if 493 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: there were just one one Republican Senate seat, much less two. 494 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: And that is a great example of what happens when 495 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: you get fixated on one particular thing and you miss 496 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: the larger picture. Because what we desperately needed in twenty twenty, 497 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: we didn't end up with worst case scenario. Split government 498 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: lost the House, lost the Senate, lost the White House, 499 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: and Joe Biden, because he doesn't understand basic economics, went 500 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: out and spent trillions of dollars. So for all of 501 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: you out there listening right now who are fired up 502 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: and you support one Canada or the other, I certainly 503 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: appreciate that and understand it. As scary as it is 504 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: to think about Joe Biden having another term in office 505 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: and potentially Kamala Harris ending up president because Joe Biden's 506 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to finish that term. Think about 507 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: how scary Democrats having control of the Senate, the House, 508 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: and the White House again would be, and what that 509 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: would do to this country's future, and what it would 510 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: do to your kid's future when it comes to the 511 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: money that they would spend, that would drive us even 512 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: further into what I believe is economic catastrophe. That's the stakes. 513 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: No one man or no one woman, no matter who 514 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,959 Speaker 1: they are, has the ability single handedly to stop this 515 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: from happening. That's why you need to show up, and 516 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: you need to, with gusto, support candidates all the way 517 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: from president down to school board to put this country 518 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: back in the direction it needs to be going. I'll 519 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: close up some more with some of your calls. Appreciate 520 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,719 Speaker 1: all of you. We are having a great discussion. And 521 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: you know what, I wish there was some more testosterone 522 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: in the Biden White House. I wish we hadn't lost 523 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: the Senate, in the House in twenty twenty and the 524 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: White House, and I wish we just had more testosterone 525 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: in this country period. You know that the testosterone levels 526 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: in America are down fifty percent since the past several decades. 527 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: Your grandpa and your great grandpa, they had way more 528 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: testosterone in their body than we do today. Men are 529 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: diminishing in terms of our testosterone. They can't figure out 530 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: exactly why it is. Well, I can tell you one 531 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: thing that could help is all natural chalk. It'll put 532 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: testosterone supplements back up to just twenty percent in three 533 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: months times all natural. You can get yourself hooked up 534 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: at their male vitality stack by going to c choq 535 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: dot com. That's choq dot com. You can use my 536 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: name Clay to save yourself thirty five percent off for 537 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: life on any chalk supplement. That's cchoq dot com. My 538 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: name Clay, c l A. Why do it today? Heard 539 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: it on the show here? More on the podcast show 540 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: or not Surprisingly. I thought this would be to jump 541 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: in the missions very often, but a lot of times 542 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: when I do, it's amazing how often they're the exact opposite, 543 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: side by side. Shelley says, you just knocked it out 544 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: of the park. On voters winning is Everything In twenty 545 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: twenty four, exclamation Point appreciates you, Shelley. Enigma writes, Clay, 546 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: you're not understanding the time. It's not being a poor 547 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: sport or childish to recognize it's MAGA against the deep state. 548 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: Every candidate other than Trump and RFK Junior are owned 549 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: by the cabal deep State. Wake up, brother, you're living 550 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: in the past, bro, so literally side by side. My 551 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: position is, show up, show up and vote. Don't trust 552 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: what the polls say. All you can control is yourself, 553 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: and you can encourage friends and family to go vote 554 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: as well. You can put them in the car with 555 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: you and drive them to the vote. You can do 556 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: everything to make sure that as many people as possible 557 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: that have the world view that you have votes. What 558 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: I am troubled by is the amount of people out 559 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: there who I hear having a very defeatist tone already 560 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: sixteen months out or whatever the math is from the election. Oh, 561 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: we're going to lose. We're going to lose if X 562 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: is not the nominee and I'm not even going to 563 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: show up. I think that's a loser way of talking. 564 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: And I think the first way that you win is 565 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: by not talking like a loser. So if you are 566 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: talking like a loser, and if you're engaging in defeatist behavior, 567 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: you need to have a little bit of an attitude 568 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: correction in my humble opinion, Kelsey and Nashville, What's Up? 569 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: Sixteen? Trump was running as an underdog, and he was 570 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 4: trying to persuade, and he was trying to pull as 571 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 4: many people to his side. And what I'm seeing now 572 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 4: is there's this level of entitlement and arrogance. And I 573 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 4: think not debating is a huge mistake because there are 574 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of few people who voted for 575 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 4: Biden but regret it, and they're going to wait to 576 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 4: hear what Republicans have to say. And I think if 577 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 4: he could show an ounce of humility, if he could 578 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 4: show somebody, hey, I might be brash or might be this, 579 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 4: but look at what I've done, look at what I 580 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 4: did for the country when I was your president, I 581 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: think it would be huge. And he's, oh, I'm so 582 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 4: frustrated with him. 583 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: Right, Christy? How old are Kelsey? How old are you? 584 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 4: I'm forty three? 585 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 2: All right? 586 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: Are you a mom? 587 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 2: I am all right? 588 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Kelsey, You and every mom out there listening to me 589 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: right now, you are going to decide the election in 590 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. That is what the data reflects. Thank 591 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: you for calling Kelsey. Every single mom that is listening 592 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: right now. Every single one of you go corral every 593 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: mom you know, get him to the polls.