1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Radio, right, So a couple of big games coming up tonight. 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: You have the Buccaneers against the Lions. The Buccaneers are 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: getting six, the Texans are getting three at the Seahawks. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: Recapping some of the games, The Broncos game was crazy. 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: I've been watching NFL football for over sixty years and 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: that's one of those where this question will probably be 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: asked on part of the interruption later today. Was that 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: a collapse or was that a comeback? It was a combination. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: It's hard to have a comeback unless you have a 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: little bit of assistance and bulloy did the Giants help 12 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: out the Broncos. But a wild finish there and the 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: Broncos pick up the win. Historical comeback, the Colts over 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: the Bolts, and the Colts are real the Dolphins. I 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: said that this was the most must win game of 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: the weekend in the NFL in my opinion, because I 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: thought Mike McDaniel needed to win this. He needed to 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: win it and maybe to keep his job. I don't 19 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: know if they're going to hold on to him. I 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: don't know if he makes it through the day, but 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: he did hint about making some changes, but this is 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: about a team. And Bill Cower said this postgame. He said, 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: they look disinterested. Boy, you don't want to hear that. 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: You don't want to hear that your team quit or 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: they're disinterested. And here's you know, Hall of Fame coach 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: saying that. And that says a lot about the coach 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: in Miami and about that quarterback. He threw for one 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: hundred yards, he had three interceptions. I mean, that's that's inexcusable. 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Here is the Dolphins head coach, Mike McDaniel. 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: I find it very offensive to all parties involved. If 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about having the job, I need to be 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: doing my job. 33 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: And that's fair. 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: But it's also our job to ask about this because 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: we're seeing you, you know, coaches being fired, whether it's 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: college or the NFL. You're not making it through half 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: the season anymore. People want results, owners want results, fans 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: want results, and you're not even close to being competitive. 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: That's the problem I have. There are certain teams where 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: you go, Okay, I can look at the Giants and go, 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: they played well. They played well enough to win that game. 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: There is at least hope there now are there some 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: questionable calls, yes, but give credit to Denver. I mean 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: they hung in there, they made plays when they needed to. 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: The Giants inexperience showed up. You know, Jackson Dark, you can't, can't, 46 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: can't throw an interception there late, you cannot. You must 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: pin them back, worst case scenario. But there were so 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: many moments in that game that you can look back 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: and say, I mean, Denver put themselves in that position 50 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: to be down twenty six to eight. So there is 51 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: fault in their first three quarters with coaching and playing, 52 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: but in the fourth quarter you have to have a 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: little little bit of help to have a comeback. All right, Seaton, 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: what's the poll question today? 55 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 3: That Giant's tip, by the way, and then the score 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 3: for the touchdown. 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: That's a crazy play. 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the ricochet, that is a crazy play. I mean, 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: the Giants got breaks there. 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: But then even the pass interference that put them down 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 2: towards the goal line. That wasn't pass interference in my opinion, 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: But there were moments there where it could have gone 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: either way. If Jackson Dark doesn't get in the first 64 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: try and they have to run the clock a little bit, 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: and then if he scores, Denver doesn't come back to 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: win this game. Also, if your kicker makes two extra points, 67 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: oh oh, he might not be around this week as well. 68 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: These are just simple things where and I'm listening to 69 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: that game on the radio with Bob Poppa, who calls 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: the Giants games, and it was like they didn't even 71 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: look at it as a foregone conclusion. They're going to 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: make the extra point. They're like, well, he's already missed one, 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: he missed his second one. And then I'm going, uh oh, 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: because all you need is two first downs in your 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: field goal range in today's NFL, but that was wild Patriots, Bears, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys, Packers, Niners, 76 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 2: Panthers all pickup wins. 77 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 5: There. 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: We'll run down the college football at a great weekend 79 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: in South Bend. That's a big week for Notre Dame 80 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: because you win and everybody else was losing. In the 81 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: top twenty five. What other poll questions are you thinking about, Seaton. 82 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: Well, we like to start Mondays with who had the 83 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: worst weekend? Okay, that's always a lot of fun, all right, 84 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: Brewers seem like a fairly obvious one. 85 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they weren't in it. I mean, I guess 86 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: getting embarrassed by getting swept. Yeah, they got swept, and 87 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: they'll be the trivial pursuit answer of which team did show, Hey, 88 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: o Tani have the greatest game in the history of 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 2: the sport against you're a Milwaukee Brewers. I would say 90 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: the Giants, just because that was devastating. You could see 91 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: Jackson Dardam, the sidelines just crushed, crushed, and it's not 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: like they had room for error with the coaching staff. 93 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: But you do have your quarterback. 94 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: Cam Skataboo is going to run like that until he 95 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: can't run like that anymore. Defense played well and then 96 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: they didn't play well. So that one to me. What 97 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: are the other candidates for a worst loss of the weekend? 98 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we have the Brewers, we have the Giants. 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: We can put the Jets in there too. I think 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: you're losing thirteen to six to the Panthers. That's not 101 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: a great game, and you're. 102 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 2: Going to bench your quarterback. You know, I tried to watch. 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: There's certain games where I go, yeah, I can't. 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: I just can't. 105 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: I'm trying. There's nothing here. I do love the Jets, Helmets, 106 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: but that's not enough to go Yeah, I'm going to 107 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 2: be glued to my TV set. I told you early 108 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: I thought the Patriots were a playoff team, and the 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: Patriots are a good team. Now. Granted they beat the 110 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: tight but that was a big win for their head coach, 111 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel. 112 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: Cam Ward. No bad for that fella. 113 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I feel bad for him, But then you 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: got to hold onto the football, Like, there's only so 115 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: much I can feel bad for when you go back 116 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: to pass. You're supposed to hold on to the football 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: when you throw the pass. 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: Let's say, like, that's exactly why I feel so bad 119 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: for him, because that's how wrong things are going right 120 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 3: now for him. 121 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 4: Is that just simple things like that? 122 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: Mean he's a kid, you know, you'd just like to 123 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: see I like to see them do better than worse. 124 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: What other teams are we going to throw in that list? Yeah, Pauline, 125 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: I'd like. 126 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 6: To throw the Raiders in there. Not a lot of 127 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 6: people talking about it. They're two and five. They lost 128 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 6: thirty one to zero. The Chiefs had thirty first downs, 129 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 6: the Raiders had two. It was a complete no show. 130 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 6: They were over seven on third down and they came 131 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 6: in this year with Gino. Smith was like, oh, you've 132 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 6: upgraded a quarterback Ashton Genty. Sure, thing tight end is great, 133 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 6: the defensive line is good. They're non threatening. 134 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: I said, I thought that they were going to be 135 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: better than the Broncos this year. I thought, with Pete Carroll, 136 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: Gino play well, Ashton Genty, Max Crosby Bowers, I thought, Okay, 137 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: you guys can be competitive in the West, and they're 138 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: not competitive at all. When you get shut out, I mean, 139 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: that's embarrassing. Look, I didn't think they would beat the Chiefs, 140 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: but be competitive. That's where as an owner, I would 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: have a problem with the product that's on the field. 142 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: If we're not competitive, I look right at the head coach. 143 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: That's on you, and then it starts to trickle down. 144 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: But the Raiders are not competitive. Yeah, it's a hangover 145 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: from Thursday. But can we put the Steelers on there? 146 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: I know it's a Thursday game and then we had Friday, 147 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: so it's not technically the weekend. 148 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: Sure that's a bad loss to me. 149 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, don't mess with Joe Flacco. I mean that's 150 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: they paid the price. 151 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, mess around find out Flacco Edition. 152 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Paul. 153 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 5: I'll throw LSU football in there for worst loss. 154 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 6: The weekend they can't afford when when it's going well, 155 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 6: you lose to a semi football school in Vandy, nofense 156 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 6: just historically not going the right direction, quietly going the 157 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 6: wrong direction. 158 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: I think we might be underrating Vandy to be fair, Yes, 159 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: however historically yes, LSU Vandy. Yeah, when you're thinking LSU 160 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: against Vandy, it's like how much are we going to 161 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: win by? But it feels like, and I've said this 162 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: at the start of the year, it just doesn't feel 163 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: like Brian Kelly is embraced there, that he's that they've 164 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: warmed up to him, and it just feels awkward. Now 165 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: he's not gonna lose his job, but it just feels awkward. 166 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: And you're watching that game and Vandy was the better team. 167 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: And I never thought in my lifetime like there's certain 168 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: teams that I watched growing up where they were always 169 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: going to be the something to zero, fifty Ford to nothing, 170 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Indiana's back, Vandy is back. 171 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: These are the teams always on the other end. Missoo, yes, Todd, 172 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil my worst of the weekend, 173 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: but the Wisconsin Badgers football program, what happened there. 174 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 5: They lose to. 175 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: Iowa thirty seven nothing. Last week they lose. 176 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: There's another home game, thirty four nothing. 177 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 7: Back to back home shutouts, giving up thirty plus plats 178 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 7: and that's getting a field goal out of here. 179 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: I cooked. 180 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke Fickel can't hold on to his job there. 181 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: He can't. And you know what, he was a hot 182 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: candidate a couple of years ago. It's like, hey man, 183 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: that could be at Ohio State. And it's like he 184 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: won't be at Wisconsin much longer. Billy Napier got fired 185 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: at Florida. Seemed like a foregone conclusion. There'll be a 186 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: payout there as well. 187 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I have we have Wisconsin on the list. I 188 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 3: also put Florida State on the list. Losing to Stanford. 189 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: That's not great. 190 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: I watched the game and they are very limited cameras, 191 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: camera angles, and then you know you're watching, you know, 192 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: last play, last couple of plays, and Stanford's not very good. 193 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: That's one of those crazy Wait a minute, they're playing 194 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: where it's like North Carolina played at cal North Carolina 195 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: didn't have a good weekend either. And by the way, 196 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: this is what I don't understand about reality. Shows when 197 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: they were going to do a documentary or whatever. That 198 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: docu series was on Hulu with North Carolina football. Then 199 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: they decide that they don't want to do it with 200 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: everything going on. No, now is when I want to 201 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 2: see it. I want to see the mess I don't 202 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: want to see you know, when the turkey comes out 203 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: of the oven. I want to see all the mess 204 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: in the kitchen there. They're like, no, we don't want 205 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: to show you that. That's when it's interesting, you know, 206 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 2: that's when things get juicy there. Now, I would want 207 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: to see a documentary on North Carolina football. 208 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 4: Yes, Paul. 209 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 6: By the way, LSU's next two games A and M 210 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 6: in Alabama, Wisconsin's next three games Oregon, Washington, Indiana. 211 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 5: That's a sounding mass groning. Maybe not score it till December. 212 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: It's been bad. It's bad. Let me see if there's 213 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 4: anything else. 214 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about the significance of 215 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: show Heyo Toni. I was actually at one of the 216 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: greatest games turned in by a pitcher hitter in baseball history, 217 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: and I'll offer that one up as a maybe a 218 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: comp or consider this show Heyo Tani. What he did 219 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: Friday Night and then you know you're he's hitting home 220 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: runs out of Dodgers Stadium. 221 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 5: God. 222 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 2: I love the sound of when he hits a home run. 223 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: It's awesome, Well except for if you're the picture Yes Tom. 224 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: And the reaction to the teammates and they're all like 225 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: their jaws dropping, like. 226 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 5: What did he just do? 227 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: They're acting like fans. You know, it's not like teammates, 228 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: it's like Freddie Freeman. He was probably more excited than 229 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: any fan that was watching this. 230 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Be sure to the live edition of The Dan Patrick 231 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on 232 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey it's me 233 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: Rob Parker. 234 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 7: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 235 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 7: twenty two minutes of pipe in hot baseball talk featuring 236 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 7: the biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. Whether you 237 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 7: believe in analytics or the iticast, We've got all the 238 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 7: bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, so do yourself 239 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 7: a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 240 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 7: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 241 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: I was watching Utah in BYU The Holy War with 242 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: BYU winning once again, RG three was on the call 243 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: out of Pocket with RG three. Also check out his podcast, 244 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: RG three joining us. I felt for you guys because 245 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: you had this atmosphere. You were trying to capture the atmosphere, 246 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: the sound, the backdrop, everything. I mean, did you feel 247 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: that like we couldn't understand the crowd noise. You kept 248 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: talking about this noise, but the atmosphere was unbelievable. 249 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 250 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 8: Dan, It's the best rivalry in all of college sports, 251 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 8: and I was honored to be a part of it. 252 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 8: With play by play Jason Bennetti and our sideline reporter 253 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 8: Alex Atlantis toy. You know a state of Utah that 254 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 8: is basically a band of brothers wearing red and wearing blue, 255 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 8: and then one day out of the year for the 256 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 8: last century, they go to war. 257 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 5: You know, it's a rivalry that. 258 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 8: Splits families, husbands and wives, children and cousins, and then 259 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 8: you know, on Sunday they go to church and they're 260 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 8: all back singing the same song. So it was really 261 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 8: cool to be a part of that. Kalanisi take the 262 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 8: head coach for BYU, you know, the loving Samoan and 263 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 8: then you got Utah with Kyle Whitningham. 264 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 5: It was. 265 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 8: It was an interesting dynamic that was fun to be 266 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 8: able to capture the. 267 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: Worst loss of the weekend NFL or College was turned 268 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: in by who. 269 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 8: Oh my, Yeah, I mean that's easy, Dan, that's the 270 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 8: New York Giants. I really feel for New York sports 271 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 8: fans right now. It's not pretty. Yankees get booted from 272 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 8: the postseason. You got the Jets at oh to seven, 273 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 8: they don't even really have a quarterback right now, and 274 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 8: then the Giants give up thirty three points in the 275 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 8: fourth quarter and find a way to snatch defeat out 276 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 8: of the jaws of victory. 277 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: But the Giants feel hopeful from the standpoint of they 278 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: did compete. They've got some players. So my takeaway is, yes, 279 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: that one hurts, but it could be helping you build 280 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: something here in the near future. 281 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, if you're looking at draft picks, of course, 282 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 8: you don't want to have the greatest season of all times, 283 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 8: so you can build some more pieces around Jackson Dart. 284 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 8: But you got to be careful because you know, you 285 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 8: saw where that Brian Banks in the walking to the 286 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 8: locker room, you know, talking about just the frustration of 287 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 8: what's going on those guys in that locker room have 288 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 8: pride and they want to win games this year. The 289 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 8: guys aren't looking forward to the next couple of years, 290 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 8: like maybe some people in the front office might be, 291 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 8: uh if they're even there. But to your point, the 292 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 8: positivity from having Jackson Dart play so well and having 293 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 8: camp Scattaboo, you know, bring. 294 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: That type of energy is good. 295 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 8: But I think they're going through a process of learning 296 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 8: how to win. You know, you see this a lot 297 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 8: of times when when changes are made at the quarterback spot, 298 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 8: the team is just so used to losing that they 299 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 8: find way to lose games that they should win. 300 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 5: Dart is a game changer. 301 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 8: I knew that when he was at Ole Miss, you know, 302 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 8: throwing the football around. But for the Giants, you just 303 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 8: can't allow bow Knicks to become Bo Jackson in the 304 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 8: fourth quarter. 305 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: Okay, did you play on a team where you felt 306 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: like defeat was inevitable in the NFL? 307 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: Oh, that is a great question. 308 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: You know. 309 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 8: I was a part of the team in Cleveland that 310 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 8: went one in fifteen, So that year was weird because 311 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 8: that was probably one of the closest teams I'd ever 312 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 8: been on as far as the camaraderie in the locker 313 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 8: room really, but you would they would, we would find 314 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 8: ways to lose games. And there's another team that I 315 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 8: was on in Washington in twenty fifteen when I didn't 316 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 8: play a snap, and that team might have been the 317 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 8: most divided team I've ever been on, and we won 318 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,119 Speaker 8: the division championship. 319 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: But how do you get divided? What happens? 320 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 5: You know? 321 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 8: It's there's it's kind of like the Eagles right now, 322 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 8: right they come off of victory, but you can hear 323 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 8: aj Brown after he catches the touchdown and these he's 324 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 8: like saying to the to the camera, throw me the ball. 325 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 8: Like they're winning games, but guys are not necessarily maybe 326 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 8: not getting their numbers, they're not feeling like they're getting 327 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 8: used the right way. And on that twenty fifteen team, 328 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 8: I believe we had Deshaun Jackson, Pierre Garson, Kirk Cousins 329 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 8: was the starting quarterback that year, and for whatever reason, 330 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 8: there was just dissension in the locker room, and the 331 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 8: talent overcame the dissension and we were able to win 332 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 8: the championship. Whereas in Cleveland we were close knit, tight, 333 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 8: but we just weren't able maybe we were too young. 334 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 8: We had like five rookie wide receivers, and you know, 335 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 8: we got rid of a lot of our veterans. And 336 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 8: it's why it's so difficult to win in the NFL, 337 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 8: because they're trying to figure out how to make quarterbacks successful. 338 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 8: They're trying to figure out how to make the team successful, 339 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 8: and they don't have a perfect recipe for it. But 340 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 8: I think it all boils down to identity. That team 341 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 8: in Cleveland in twenty sixteen didn't have an identity. That 342 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 8: team in Washington in twenty fifteen had an identity. It 343 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 8: was just dysfunction, and everyone bought. Everyone bought into the dysfunction, 344 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 8: and we found ways to win games. So there's no 345 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 8: recipe for it. But I think if you have an identity, 346 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 8: that is the start, and the Giants are building that identity. 347 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 8: They need to lean into Camp Skataboo and Jackson Dart 348 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 8: one hundred percent. 349 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: Bill Kawer said that it looked like the Dolphins players 350 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: were disinterested. 351 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: Oh now that's not saying you quit, but it's close. 352 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's close. 353 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: Maybe it's semantics, it's a friendlier word. 354 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 4: What does disinterested mean to you as a former player? 355 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 8: It means that the Miami Dolphins need to blow it 356 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 8: all up Dan, they have to fire Mike McDaniel, and 357 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 8: I do also believe they have to get rid of 358 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 8: to a tongue of Ioloa. And I'm a to a guy. 359 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 8: You asked me, this is many shows ago, who would 360 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 8: I take? Would I take to a tongue of Ioloa 361 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 8: or Justin Herbert? And I'd picked two because his ability 362 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 8: to play before the defense and get the ball out 363 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 8: in timing and rhythm, and his aggressiveness. But he's known 364 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 8: ten interceptions this year, and he's known three interceptions and 365 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 8: back to back games. And I do believe Tua himself 366 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 8: has lost that locker room. We saw it last week 367 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 8: when he came out and called out, you know, the 368 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 8: leadership in the building. That wasn't just players, that was 369 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 8: leadership holistically in the entire building. 370 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 5: And once it starts to creep out like that, for 371 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 5: a guy. 372 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 8: Like Tua who's always been very cognizant of what he 373 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 8: says to the public, that to me means that it's 374 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 8: going a lot worse than what we're even seeing. And 375 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 8: now it's affecting his play to a level of like 376 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 8: coach Kayer said, they're disinterested, they don't want to play. 377 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 8: Mike McDaniel does not look like he's having fun right 378 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 8: on the sidelines. Yeah, he's not skipping and jumping and 379 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 8: wearing the cool glasses anymore. He's got like a hoodie on, 380 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 8: like he's trying to hide from somebody. So I don't 381 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 8: know what is particularly going on there, but I know 382 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 8: they owe to a one for one hundred and forty 383 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 8: one million still. But sometimes you just got to reshuffle 384 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 8: the deck and just start all over. 385 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: Talking to RG three, Fox Football analyst, he was on 386 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 2: the call for BYU and Utah and you can check 387 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: out his podcast out of Pocket with RG three, he 388 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: had these comments, and I know there's pressure when. 389 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 4: You're a quarterback of you got to be a leader. 390 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, some lead by example, some lead by words, some 391 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: do a combination. It's almost like Rgie or that two 392 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: of them was trying to be something he wasn't last week. 393 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to be a leader. I'm gonna be honest. 394 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to say these things. I'm calling you know people. 395 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: But then you go out and you throw three interceptions, correct, 396 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: and then you throw three interceptions again. 397 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: Do you think. 398 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: He's trying to be somebody he's not, and that is 399 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: this vocal guy because it feels like when he gets 400 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: in front of a microphone, the microphone always wins. 401 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: He doesn't. 402 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 5: That's a good you. 403 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 8: Know, I got to pull on my own experience here, 404 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 8: because you know, when you're losing, it is. 405 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 5: Really difficult to be that vocal. 406 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 8: Leader in front of that microphone and try to hold everybody. 407 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: In the organization accountable. I went through that. 408 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 8: You know, you come off a loss and you say, hey, 409 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 8: you know, it all starts with me, I've got to 410 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 8: be better and I've got to do this, and then 411 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 8: it's like what you say next after that determines how 412 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 8: the rest of your week and the rest of your 413 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 8: season is going to go. 414 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 5: And I made that mistake. So I understand where Tua 415 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 5: is at. 416 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 8: Because I said that, and then I came back and 417 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 8: I said, you know what, the best this do this, 418 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 8: and we got to do that and we got it. 419 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 8: And your teammates it's like they're looking at you and 420 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 8: they're watching it on TV. Their friends are texting them 421 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 8: and their families texting them what's going on, and they. 422 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 5: Don't they skip the first part. 423 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 8: Okay, yep, that you said throwing me and I got it. 424 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 8: They go right to hey, man, he said, you catching 425 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 8: the ball? He said, y'all not getting open. And I 426 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 8: know that feeling. So I always feel for the quarterbacks 427 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 8: in those moments because you want to give, you want 428 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 8: to you want to motivate you guys. 429 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: No, but you want to be boring. RGI. 430 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: You gotta be boring in the press conference, in the 431 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: locker room. You can be animated, excited, you can do 432 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: all of that in front of us. Your job is 433 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 2: to say something, but not really say anything. 434 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 5: And Dan, I learned that. 435 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 8: I learned that I just didn't have the one hundred 436 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 8: and forty one million dollar contract now. 437 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 5: And I think a little bit of that. 438 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 8: Comes with when you get that payment, you feel a 439 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 8: more of a responsibility to be the catalyst for that leadership. 440 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 5: And I think that's where Tua is. 441 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 8: He's learning on the job, you know, the mistakes that 442 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 8: a lot of guys make early in their career, right 443 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 8: in the middle of his career. So I think he 444 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 8: needs to watch this episode the Dan Patrick Show and 445 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 8: like be boring. It's okay to say, hey, it's on me. 446 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 8: I gotta go watch the tape. 447 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 5: B Jaalen Hurts. 448 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 8: They asked, Jalen Hurts, Awsome, Hey, what differently this week 449 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 8: that you didn't do last week? 450 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 5: He's like, I don't know, I gotta go watch the tape. 451 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 5: Be boring. 452 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 8: I'm telling you it works every single time, and your 453 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 8: teammates will love you for it because they're all under 454 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 8: a microscope in this social media age. 455 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 5: And I think TWOA is learning that really quickly. 456 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: We're also learning quickly about well, it doesn't feel like 457 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: anybody has great stability as a coach, certainly in college 458 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: that you know, things change quickly. You'll get SMU overnight, 459 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: Arizona State overnight, Indiana is back again, Texas Tech, Vandy, 460 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: and now you get these blue bloods where all of 461 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: a sudden, you know, Penn State or Florida and Florida 462 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: State and will move on from you. 463 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 4: It just do you get that feeling of I mean. 464 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: It's survival of the fittest for these coaches trying to 465 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: hold onto these jobs. 466 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, it is. 467 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 8: And you know, you make a great point, and I 468 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 8: said this three or four years ago. I said that 469 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 8: nil on the transfer portal was going to level out 470 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 8: college football and what. 471 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 5: That means is it's going to be year to year. 472 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 8: The days of Alabama and Georgia and all these super 473 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 8: teams being able to just run through people every single 474 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 8: year and constantly be in the national. 475 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 5: Title race is over because their depth is dan. 476 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 8: If I'm a quarterback and I know this guy is 477 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 8: making I don't know, four or five million dollars and 478 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 8: I'm a freshman coming in, or I'm a guy in 479 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 8: the portal, I'm not going to that school. In the past, 480 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 8: I could go to that school and just beat him 481 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 8: out because neither of us were making money and the 482 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 8: best guy was going to play well. Now you have 483 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 8: situations like last year with dj Uyungalle at Florida State, 484 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 8: where they're paying him a bunch of money and everyone 485 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 8: with eyes can see. 486 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 5: Hey, he's just not playing very well. 487 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 8: But guess what, they have to play him because they're 488 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 8: paying him so much money. So now you look at 489 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 8: the way that everything is going in and these coaches 490 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 8: are on a year to year deal where one year 491 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 8: they're great, the next year they can be terrible because 492 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 8: if you pay the wrong guys, you're out of luck. 493 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 8: So I look at these blue bloods and I get 494 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 8: why they're struggling, but the boosters don't care. And when 495 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 8: they're willing to pay seventy eighty ninety million for you 496 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 8: not to coach somewhere, that lets you know how different 497 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 8: the landscape is. And Dan, I'm just trying to say, 498 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 8: if I can get one of these head coaching jobs 499 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 8: and we can make this happen, and I can bring 500 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 8: you guys on board, and they can. 501 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 5: Just fire us not to work because this is crazy 502 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 5: what's going on in. 503 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: College Footballer, you would not want to be a coach today? 504 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: You would not want this? 505 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 4: Or do you? 506 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 8: I think I would love to do it. First, First 507 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 8: of all, I love coaching. You have had opportunity to 508 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 8: be in overtime and coach these young athletes and seven 509 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 8: on seven. But to me, it boils down to your 510 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 8: head coach can no longer just be a great play caller. 511 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 8: They can't just be a guy that went through the 512 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 8: rounds and you know he knows how to do this. 513 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 5: You got to be a CEO. 514 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 8: It's why Joey McGuire at Texas Tech is such a. 515 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 5: Great head coach. He hires the right guys. 516 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 8: Shea Wood the defensive coordinator, and Mac Leftwich as offensive coordinator. 517 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 5: These guys are innovative, they're young. 518 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 8: They know how to call plays and put their guys 519 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 8: in position to be successful. But like you look at 520 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 8: Florida for example, I've said this for years now. I 521 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 8: think they should hire too. I think they should hire 522 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 8: Tim Tebow. If if Tim Tebow goes into any home 523 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 8: in Florida, you're telling me that those parents aren't saying yep, 524 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 8: sign me up, I'm coming. You got to put a 525 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 8: great staff around him, because you. 526 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 2: Can't hire somebody that you can't fire Robert, they can 527 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: fire Tim t Bo. 528 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but that's you don't want to do that. 529 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: It's just like we've seen that, you know, Patrick Ewing 530 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: at Georgetown, Chris Mallan at Saint John's, Clyde Drexler at Houston. 531 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 4: Okay, now going to fire your guy, now. 532 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 8: Dan, Do any of those guys give speeches like Tim Tebow? 533 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 8: Do any of those guys motivate like Tim Tebow motivates. 534 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 8: I'm not saying Tebow would take the job. I'm great 535 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 8: friends with Tim. I don't think you take the job. 536 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 8: But if I'm Florida, I'm trying to do that because 537 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 8: you need that level of exposure. 538 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: If you ask him about the Florida job I have, 539 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: and what did he say? 540 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 8: His response is, you know, he's not chasing that. That's 541 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 8: he's not He's not that, he's not interested at all. 542 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 8: He's just not chasing that. And I understand it. You're 543 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 8: the favorite son. We saw that with frosst that Nebraska. 544 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 8: You don't want to have to fire your guy. 545 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 5: But I'm just talking. 546 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 8: About the overall thought process of teams in college football today. 547 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 8: You got to give these young men a reason to 548 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 8: want to go there because they can go to seven 549 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 8: different schools and still make it to the NFL. Before 550 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 8: it was you go to Bama, you going to the league, 551 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 8: You go to Georgia, you going to the league, and 552 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 8: you're gonna win a national championship. 553 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 5: It's no longer that way. 554 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: But you got Andrew Luck, who I think is gonna 555 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: end up coaching Stanford. I mean, he's their general manager. 556 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: It feels like, you know, as competitive as he is, 557 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: he's like, I want to get closer to the game. 558 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 4: I could see him coaching at Stanford. 559 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 5: Then Andrew's doing it the smart way, right. 560 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 8: Stanford's not a great team and he's not putting those 561 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 8: losses on his record. 562 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: He'll start coaching when they get better. 563 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 8: Think he's coach and when they're better. Hey, they had 564 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 8: Bear Bachmeyer the quarterback at BYU, So that. 565 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: Dude is he's good. He's not afraid, he. 566 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 5: Is not afraid. 567 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 8: He's not a freshman four point oh g GPA at 568 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 8: Anford before he transferred out. 569 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 5: The extremely smart young man. 570 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 8: I've known him for a couple of years now, fearless, 571 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 8: and he showed that in the Holy War is pretty impressive. 572 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 5: His watch and number forty seven, Yeah, you know, you 573 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 5: know what that number is. 574 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 8: He played a running back and middle linebacker when he 575 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 8: was young, and he said, and when he switched over 576 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 8: to quarterback, he kept the number forty seven because it 577 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 8: reminded him of his primitive years. That is an interesting quarterback. 578 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 8: That's the guy you want to play for. 579 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 4: Great to talk to you again, Thanks for joining us. 580 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 5: Appreciate you. 581 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: Dan's Robert Griffin Junior, the third. Fox Sports Radio has 582 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 583 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within 584 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live show. 585 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: Hey, o Tani did some things that even Babe Ruth 586 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: didn't know. Ron Darling was on the call, the former 587 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: World Series champ with the metch and broadcasting with TBS 588 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: in the booth for Friday Night the Pennant clinching victory. Ronnie, 589 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: you've seen a lot of baseball. Ooh, have you seen 590 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: anything that compares to what you saw on Friday night. 591 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 9: I've never seen anything like it. You know, I think 592 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 9: that we're used to seeing great things from great athletes, 593 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 9: and we always find the words. I found it very 594 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 9: difficult to find any words for what happened on Friday night. 595 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 9: That's something that I thought might be one hundred years 596 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 9: from now. Maybe I didn't know it was, it was 597 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 9: present now. It's just it was stuff that you see 598 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 9: in Williamsport. You don't see at Dodger Stadium on a 599 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 9: Friday night. 600 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: A Little League World Series instead of a playoff. But 601 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: you know, no other player has this opportunity to pitch 602 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: and then bat lead off. I mean there's nobody else. 603 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 2: Even Babe Ruth didn't do this. He probably batted third 604 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: in the lineup with the Yankees, but he stopped pitching 605 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: to just then concentrate on hitting. 606 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's and you know the pitching and the way 607 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 9: you pitched and got people out in those days certainly 608 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 9: is a little different than what guys are looking at today. 609 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 9: But I remember, I'm old enough that when I was drafted, 610 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 9: I remember saying to my agent, I said, what if 611 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 9: I don't like who drafts me, why can't I go 612 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 9: to Japan and play for a couple of years. I'm 613 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 9: twenty years old. It would be a great place to 614 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 9: hang out, learn a lot about baseball formative years, and 615 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 9: also new culture. And my agent told me that you'd 616 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 9: be blackballed from baseball forever. But the one thing he 617 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 9: did say, and I'll never forget it, because he said, 618 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 9: you know, it's inferior baseball over there. They'll have some 619 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 9: pitchers maybe someday come over and make their mark, but 620 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 9: the everyday player will never have a place in a 621 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 9: Major League baseball. And in my lifetime we have the 622 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 9: best player that I've ever seen was born in Japan. 623 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: But you also look at this and you wonder that 624 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: will this spawn other players who and using your picture 625 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: as your shortstop and your best player any bats third 626 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: in the lineup, why haven't we seen more this? 627 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: Paul Schemes was. 628 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: A great hitter in college, And I don't know can 629 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: you take advantage of that? 630 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: Will teams do that? 631 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 9: You know? I can only speak from my own experience, 632 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 9: because when I hear about other pitchers that were great hitters, 633 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 9: I'm always a little skeptical. And only in this sense 634 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 9: is that I was a player pitcher myself, and I 635 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 9: had great years as a collegiate, and then I started 636 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 9: taking a batting practice against major league pitchers and the 637 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 9: spin and the velocity and I was, wow, am I 638 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 9: out of my league? So even most collegiate collegiate players 639 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 9: who are great hitters and pitchers find when they get 640 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 9: to the major league level that they're not. So that's 641 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 9: what makes it even more remarkable. 642 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: Well, was it more remarkable the pitching or the hitting? 643 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: If we separate the two that he hits three bombs, 644 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: but also the pitching, because man, that was some filthy 645 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: stuff that he was throwing. 646 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 9: Well, I think if we separated the pitching was remarkable 647 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 9: only because he hasn't done a lot of it this 648 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 9: year and that he could be two weeks in between 649 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 9: throwing in a major league game and produce those kind 650 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 9: of results. But the one thing Dan, I will tell you, 651 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 9: especially his second and third home run. Are people at Turner. 652 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 9: They do such a great job with the pictures in 653 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 9: the sound, they could not replicate the sound that second 654 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 9: home run made from the booth. It sounded like someone 655 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 9: had shot off a cannon. I mean, the sound of 656 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 9: the connection between bat and ball. I've never heard that before. 657 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 9: And I've heard some great sounds, including some personally offen 658 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 9: that ended up going a long way, but I had 659 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 9: never in the booth heard something that loud. And you know, 660 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 9: we tried to capture it leaving the stadium. And when 661 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 9: I was a young player going to Dodger Stadium for 662 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 9: the first time, I had people all the time say, well, 663 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 9: that's where Stargel hit the ball over the pavilion and 664 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 9: I guess kind of like Ted Williams's seat and m 665 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 9: Way Park. Yeah, whatever, you know, whatever you want to say. 666 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 9: That's great, that's a nice story. And then you see 667 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 9: someone do it and you say to yourself that which 668 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 9: you thought was impossible is possible. 669 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: I have fallen in love with this sound, and you 670 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: bring that up, and I would just have Marvin, who 671 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: gets all of our sound, I'd say, just get me 672 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: Otani hitting that home there's nobody who sounds that way. 673 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: You could say I'm gonna play five sounds and I'll go, well, 674 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: that one's Otani. I don't know if any like Bonds 675 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: McGuire who, I don't know who you faced that you 676 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: would go, oh my god. As soon as it hits 677 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: the bat, you know that it's gone. 678 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, there definitely is a different sound for the amazing 679 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 9: hitter Barry I faced them early in his career, and 680 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 9: there definitely was Ken Griffy Jr. The ball would leave 681 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 9: his bat in a specific way, but the thunder which 682 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 9: comes off the bat of Atani is just special. 683 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 4: Explain to me the. 684 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: Dodgers' plan is to let their starters go a little 685 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: bit further. It seems to be counterintuitive to what everybody 686 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: else in baseball is doing. 687 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 9: Well, yes, because they're at a perfect spot. They've done 688 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 9: something that very few teams can do, have done, or 689 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 9: afford to do, and that is do you need. 690 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: To get a drink of water? Go ahead? Yeah, drink 691 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 4: a water. 692 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 9: Do you mind give me one second? 693 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead. 694 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: So Ron was on the call that was Friday night 695 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 2: with Game four, the TBS lead analyst. He won the 696 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 2: World Series back with the Mets in nineteen eighty six. 697 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 9: All right, I'm sorry about that. That very few teams 698 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 9: can do. They got these pictures Snell and Glassnew and others, 699 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 9: and they're at a spot where they've only pitched sixty 700 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 9: to one hundred innings. So right now in October, they 701 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 9: have the most well rested staff with some of the 702 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 9: most talented pitchers in baseball performing at their best. And 703 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 9: I think that that's why they're asking more of them 704 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 9: than you've ever seen in the playoffs. We've had guys 705 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 9: before that they get to this point they have two 706 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 9: hundred innings or one hundred and eighty five innings. We're 707 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 9: talking about guys that you can push for a couple 708 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 9: of reasons. One is that they're where they're at innings wise. 709 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 9: But two, they've made their money, Dan, and that seems 710 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 9: to be a very important thing for especially pitchers in baseball. 711 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 9: If they've made their money, I think they're more willing 712 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 9: to go that extra mile. 713 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 4: What do you mean. 714 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 9: I think that when you get to the postseason and 715 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 9: you're dealing with a player or a pitcher that has 716 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 9: not gotten his four or five year contract. They're the 717 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 9: agent themselves, people around them, the team are hesitant sometimes 718 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 9: to push them to a level that they've never been before. 719 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 9: But if they've made their money, I feel like they 720 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 9: feel confident that they can go and go that extra 721 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 9: mile and pitch seven eight innings as opposed to the 722 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 9: five or six you see before. 723 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: Blad Guerrero has been hot the entire postseason. I mean, 724 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 2: O Tani was hot for one game, but Blad Guerrero 725 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: I got a walking ryn. 726 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 9: I'm amazed. We're supposed to be at the smartest point 727 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 9: we've ever been in baseball, and sometimes it's really nothing 728 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 9: more than throwing all the papers away and everything and 729 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 9: charts and all of that and just watching an athlete 730 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 9: at his best. I guess we've all been waiting for 731 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 9: Junior to get to this point because we knew he 732 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 9: had all the talent in the world. But it's and 733 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 9: I know you know this better than anyone, when the 734 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 9: talent and maturity clash all at the same time, it's 735 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 9: one of the most beautiful things to watch in athletes. 736 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 9: And that's where he is right now. He just is 737 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 9: intelligence about hitting is coupled with his athletic and innate 738 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 9: athletic talent, So it's fun to watch it. I'm with 739 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 9: you that Seattle would ever challenge him at any point 740 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 9: makes no sense to me. 741 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: If I and this is apples and oranges, But if 742 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 2: I took the Bill Buckner game, Game six in the 743 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 2: World Series, yeah, and put that up against Otani's game 744 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 2: Friday Night, crazier game that you think you would never 745 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 2: see again, which one would it be? 746 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 9: Well, I think it would be the Buckner game. To me, 747 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 9: I think only because Otani could do it again, and 748 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 9: he might do it again in the World Series. It 749 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 9: was just the strangest thing with that game because it 750 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,760 Speaker 9: was built on the Mets coming back in Game six 751 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 9: in the NLCS against Bob Nepper three runs down. It 752 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 9: was coupled with Dave Henderson leading off that inning with 753 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 9: a home run and adding an extra run against Rick Aguilera, 754 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 9: who had become one of the great closers in the game. 755 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 9: All of that together, no one recovers from that. But 756 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 9: because of guys like Gary Carr and Kevin Mitchell and 757 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 9: Ray Knight and Mookie Wilson, we had a big thing 758 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 9: in one of the playoff games that Bryce terrang the 759 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 9: second basement couldn't get out of the way of a 760 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 9: pitch or did get out of the way of a 761 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 9: pitch for the bases loaded, and if he got hit, 762 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 9: they would have tied the game. And I think to myself, 763 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 9: I might not have had a career in TV if 764 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 9: Mookie Wilson couldn't have got out of the way before 765 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 9: he hit that ground ball, and we ended up putting 766 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 9: the World Series. So you never know what's kind of transpire. 767 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 2: It was so strange being there that night and going 768 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 2: into the locker room and Keith Hernandez always had a 769 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 2: six pack up. 770 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 4: I think, Michelob, Yeah, Michelob, you got it right. 771 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: And then I went in there and I realized he 772 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 2: was in there when the rally was happening, getting undressed, 773 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 2: and it was one of those where, I mean, everybody 774 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: kind of thought this foregone conclusion, but it's still one 775 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 2: of those you want to talk about a roar when 776 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 2: you guys won that game, That roar chased was incredible. 777 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 2: And then I had to go into the Red Sox 778 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: locker room to interview Bill Buckner right after that. 779 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 9: I mean, one of the worst things you ever have 780 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 9: to do, right anytime you have to go into the 781 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 9: loser's locker room, but especially with Bill who's one of 782 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 9: the great players, one of the great hitters they have 783 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 9: to face. The one thing I will say about that 784 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 9: night is in the locker rooms aren't like they are now. 785 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 9: The locker rooms are pretty pathetic in those days. And 786 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 9: we had that popcorn ceiling, and because of the war, 787 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 9: as you were talking about, and the people dancing in 788 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 9: the stands, all of the soot and dirt was coming 789 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 9: through the popcorn ceiling, and all of us thought, I 790 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 9: think as a collective group, this stadium could come down. 791 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 9: But I think we're all comfortable. If it's going to 792 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 9: come down, this is the best time. 793 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 2: Who do the Dodgers want to face between these two 794 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 2: teams tonight. 795 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 9: I don't think the Dodgers care who they face. They 796 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 9: tell you the truth. I think they're at a point 797 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 9: right now where they're extremely confident. Uh They've got five 798 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 9: future Hall of famers, if you include the manager on 799 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 9: the ball club. They're playing peak with their starting pitching, 800 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,439 Speaker 9: the relievings coming along, and the lineup is as tough 801 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 9: as any of the game. I don't I don't think 802 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 9: they fear anyone if they had to face the team 803 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 9: maybe Seattle. Because of that way they stay on the 804 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 9: West coast, it's a little easier travel. 805 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why. 806 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: I so you got Otani, Mookie Kershaw, Freeman, Dave Roberts. 807 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 9: There you go. That's that's uh, that's their hall of 808 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 9: famers at some point. So and then we haven't and 809 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 9: we have what if Snell gets his third cim you 810 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,479 Speaker 9: know there's other other players too. 811 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 4: I don't know, can three cy youngs? You feel like it. 812 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 9: It at least gets you in the conversation. 813 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 2: So well, yeah, I don't know anymore. With starting pitching, 814 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 815 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's really hard to go, like, what what 816 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 4: gets you in? Is this starter anymore? 817 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 9: I know we're going to have starters in the near 818 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 9: future who are going to have less than one hundred 819 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 9: and fifty wins, who are going to be seriously considered. 820 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 9: And that's how much the game has changed. In fact, 821 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,479 Speaker 9: I think the win is going to change. It's going 822 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 9: to be a collective decision by some group. I don't 823 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 9: know if it's going to be the official scorer that 824 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 9: will give it to whoever pitched the best that day. 825 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 9: The five innings and all of that I think are 826 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 9: going to go by the wayside someday, maybe not in 827 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 9: my lifetime, but it's going to go so. 828 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: It'd be open to interpretation from the official score of 829 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 2: you get a win and you went two and two thirds. 830 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, exactly. Well, a starting pitcher could go four 831 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 9: and two thirds of scoreless baseball. Everyone else kind of 832 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 9: suffers and he gets to win even though he didn't 833 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 9: meet our five inning minimum. 834 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: But then, can you look back and look at some 835 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 2: of these pitchers who ended up with two hundred and 836 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 2: fifty wins? And now do you look at Mike Mussina differently, 837 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 2: or you know Bert Weylevin or Tommy John or you 838 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 2: know those you know, Kurt Shilling, who should be in 839 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. 840 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 4: In my opinion one. 841 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 9: Hundred percent, I'm a big haul guy. All those guys 842 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 9: I look at differently anyways, because they were kind of 843 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 9: old school meets the new school. In this format, I 844 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 9: think I can find maybe fifty or sixty more wins 845 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 9: for myself. We'll have to see. 846 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 4: Great to talk to you, Ronnie, Thank you for joining us. 847 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 9: Thanks Dan anytime. 848 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 4: That's ron Darling.