WEBVTT - One on One: Melora Hardin

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<v Speaker 1>I Am all in.

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<v Speaker 2>You. I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am All in Podcast. One

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<v Speaker 1>on one interview with Melaura Harden. This is brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by One eleven Productions, iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>and Melaura Harden portrayed Carolyn Bates. Carolyn was set up

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<v Speaker 1>with Christopher by Emily and Richard at Friday Night Dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something about Malaura Harden. Who she is.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an actress best known for roles as Jan Levinson

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<v Speaker 1>on NBC's The Office, Trudy Monk on The USA Networks Monk,

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<v Speaker 1>and Tammy Cashman on Amazon Prime Videos Transparent, which she

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<v Speaker 1>received a Primetime Emmy Award nomination. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that too, How that felt, How you found out.

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<v Speaker 1>Malaura has been in many many feature films, including Hannah Montana,

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<v Speaker 1>the movie seventeen Again, Thank You for Smoking, Absolute Power,

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<v Speaker 1>opposite Cleanewood and Gene Hackman, and What a Scene That

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<v Speaker 1>Was with Gene Hackman and twenty seven Dresses. She stars

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<v Speaker 1>in the first one woman movie ever made a Golden Vanity,

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<v Speaker 1>as Mabel Montgomery, an iconic child star Alla Judy Garland.

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<v Speaker 1>The film is currently being submitted to festivals. Malaura Hardened welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>So excited to talk to you and to meet you. You.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, how'd you get this role on Gilmore Girls?

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<v Speaker 1>They just make an offer. I can't imagine they made

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<v Speaker 1>you audition, but they just offered it to you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Please say they offered it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to remember, I think so, yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Amy Sherman Palladino and I are You've known

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<v Speaker 2>each other for a really long time because we used

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<v Speaker 2>to take ballet together at the same ballet studio as

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<v Speaker 2>little girls. So I've known her like since we were

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<v Speaker 2>really young, like maybe twelve or thirteen, I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>long ago. Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, they just

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<v Speaker 2>they offered it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Yeah, Okay, here come the questions. What was

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<v Speaker 1>she like as a twelve or thirteen year old? Go on,

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<v Speaker 1>cough character?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't she? I remember really liking her. I mean she's

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<v Speaker 2>I still really like her. We get along great. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's really fun too. She's so smart, and she's quirky,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's so her own person, and you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she was always I think. I mean, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>just as a little girl just liking her. Just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember like we weren't like super close friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>just remember liking her and we would always say hello

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<v Speaker 2>at dance class, and she was always friendly to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were friendly to each other. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>really only later that we, you know, we like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hung out as girlfriends a little bit. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was after the Gilmore Girls thing. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was like we went to lunch a few times. She

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<v Speaker 2>came and saw me in Chicago on Broadway. I played

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<v Speaker 2>roxy Heart and she came saw me, and we went

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<v Speaker 2>out to dinner and like had a whole like girls

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<v Speaker 2>hang and like we've done a few kind of days

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<v Speaker 2>like that where we've just hung out as girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that's nice. That's very nice. Yeah, So you

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<v Speaker 1>saw no indication at that time that she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go on to become one of the most prolific

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<v Speaker 1>writers and most awarded writers in television history.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's such an incredible I don't think people really

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<v Speaker 2>talk enough about her directing. I think she's absolutely exceptional director. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it in this episode watching this episode again

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<v Speaker 2>that she directed the one that I was in partings,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I have particularly noticed it and was

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<v Speaker 2>able to tell her at the Critics' Choice Awards this

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<v Speaker 2>this year that I just think she's just her directing

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<v Speaker 2>on marvelous, Miss Maisl is unbelievable, I mean, really really inspired.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Oh, you were there, you were I was

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<v Speaker 1>there that night. Yeah, I saw Amy and Dan that night.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know, wasn't that great?

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<v Speaker 1>It was great? It was a funny evening. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>you played kron therapist being set up at Christopher emmeilin

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<v Speaker 1>Richard's Friday night dinner. Do you think your character had

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<v Speaker 1>any chance with him?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? Yeah, she totally did. I mean, I think what

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<v Speaker 2>was so great about the character and watching this again

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<v Speaker 2>was the character was so not in any way desperate

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<v Speaker 2>or needy. She just was just who she was and

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<v Speaker 2>she was just sort of like being herself and this

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<v Speaker 2>guy could either. You know, I think she thought, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>he's okay, this is I mean, she even says it's

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<v Speaker 2>the most blatant, you know, setup I've ever had besides

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<v Speaker 2>my mother. And she thought it was touching that that,

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<v Speaker 2>like this friend of her mother's really wanted her to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, meet a guy in the new town that

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<v Speaker 2>she's moved into. And I think that's sweet and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and with such a great device to get

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to get Lauraai and Chris what Chris is

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<v Speaker 2>this character Christopher to get them together again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to get them like like talking, and he's saving her

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<v Speaker 2>and and it's kind of great. It's it's particularly great

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<v Speaker 2>that they call my character Libby that Libby is so

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that she's so centered and so like such

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<v Speaker 2>a potential like cash, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 2>that makes it even more interesting, I think for the

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<v Speaker 2>regulars in the show and the and the fans of

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<v Speaker 2>the show that Christopher ends up in bed with, you know, Lauraai,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one of the things we just discussed. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that as a therapist you overstepped your bounds

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in that you know, backseat therapy session

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<v Speaker 1>with Laurel I kind of advocating for her to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that Is that something that you read in the

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<v Speaker 1>script and said, Oh, I don't know if a therapist

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<v Speaker 1>would do that, would go that far?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that, Well, I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how many therapists would have a therapy session in

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<v Speaker 2>their far with a notepad.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta suspend, you got to you gotta suspend your disbeliever.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a set up date in this like tiny little

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<v Speaker 2>idyllic town that you know, you guys are all in, like.

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<v Speaker 1>The reality is a bit skewed there, So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that you can accept anything exactly excellent point. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it never dawned on us that it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>TV show and we're trying to terpet his real life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what's we throw a flag on the play?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So those are iconic dinner scenes. Those those Friday

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<v Speaker 1>night dinner scenes are some of the best stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. What was it like working with everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Really great? Really great? I remember. I mean for me,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the most exciting thing was that Ed Herman

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<v Speaker 2>played my father when I was nine years old in

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<v Speaker 2>a Disney movie I did called North Avenue Irregulars. Oh my,

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<v Speaker 2>and I literally hadn't seen him since then.

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<v Speaker 1>That imbered and I of court.

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<v Speaker 2>And I had such fond memories of him. He was

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<v Speaker 2>so sweet to me when I was nine doing that

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<v Speaker 2>show sort of a caper like a caper movie, really

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<v Speaker 2>fun movie. If anyone can ever find that they should.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really fun. It had like Chlorus Leachman and Karen

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine and oh gosh in series, and I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>had some iconic, iconic comedians in any case that was

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<v Speaker 2>super fun. So that was I was mostly focused on

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<v Speaker 2>Ed just you know, just reconnecting with him and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But but everybody was perfectly nice to me. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember like thinking anything other than that.

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<v Speaker 1>So at nine years old, here you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, started acting when I'm six.

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<v Speaker 1>Professionally, You're from Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in Houston. I was raised here.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so they didn't your your parents didn't move here

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue the business. You moved here anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my parents are both actors, so they here for

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<v Speaker 2>the business for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason I was born in Houston, Texas is because

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was doing a production at the Alley Theater

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<v Speaker 2>in Houston. So that's why. Yeah, that's why I was there,

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<v Speaker 2>and then traveling around doing regional theater for the first

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<v Speaker 2>five years of my life and then yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>then coming to LA and then really the only reason

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<v Speaker 2>I got into it was because my comm my parents'

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<v Speaker 2>commercial agents. When you went when during the time when

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<v Speaker 2>you had to drop off your headshots because they were

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<v Speaker 2>physical headshots. Uh, just said, you're so cute, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>want to do what mom and dad does? And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I could do what mom and dad does.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'd seen them age, and I'd seen them acting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd seen them working onlines, and I think I

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<v Speaker 2>just loved what it looked like to me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, can I please? Can I please? I tugged

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<v Speaker 2>on their sleeves and tugged on their sleeves, and finally

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, oh my god, this crazy business,

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<v Speaker 2>with all this rejection. We'll let her go on ten auditions.

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<v Speaker 2>If she doesn't get anything, we'll ease her out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll never know the difference. Of course, I got the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing I went on.

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<v Speaker 1>So did.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you were you a child star? Did you go

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<v Speaker 1>on the talk shows when you were a kid?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't go on the talk shows. I still haven't

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<v Speaker 2>gone on the talk shows too much, really.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, So you were never on like Lenno or Carson

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<v Speaker 1>or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, yeah, I'm not really much of a talk

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<v Speaker 2>show type. I guess I don't really, I don't guess

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<v Speaker 2>I don't Garner. I mean I've done like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they don't like beautifulest directally funny people that

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<v Speaker 1>are really good at what they do. They hate that

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know, but no, but it's been,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been. It's been just great. Like like growing up

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<v Speaker 2>in this business was super fun. And yeah, to reconnect

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<v Speaker 2>with ed Herman was really really fun because he really

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<v Speaker 2>is a highlight in my memory. That was a super

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<v Speaker 2>fun show to work. That movie was incredible. On the

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<v Speaker 2>back lot of Disney and they were making Pete's Dragon

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<v Speaker 2>Around the Corner, which was a huge movie that came

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<v Speaker 2>out that summer, and I remember meeting the animator who

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<v Speaker 2>gave me a picture and I have a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>me with Pete the Dragon, who's completely animated of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Right anyway, let me ask you played a really integral

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<v Speaker 1>role here with that scene, okay, and that you realized,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your character realized that Laurel I need to

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<v Speaker 1>stand up for herself and asked to a lobe. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you think that that was the right advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Me personally?

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<v Speaker 1>You personally, Laura Harden, this is your life.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's always good to push people to if

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<v Speaker 3>they have noise, if they have if they're suffering about something.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's great to push through that so that

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<v Speaker 3>you can get to the other side faster. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>that requires pushing the boundaries. Sometimes it requires being.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it requires you know, just shutting up and wearing beige,

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<v Speaker 2>and other times it requires pushing through so that you

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<v Speaker 2>can get to the freedom faster. The freedom mind where

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have like a static television in the background in.

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<v Speaker 1>Your actually actually can be very toxic, right, So you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to clear it out. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, well, I don't think you can really get

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<v Speaker 2>anything done from that place, right, from a place of

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<v Speaker 2>like noise, noise, noise, noise, right, right, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have clarity, and you and sometimes to get

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<v Speaker 2>clarity you have to like you have to stir it

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<v Speaker 2>up and make it explode, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got to get out of that paralysis.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, interesting, interesting, So you're the right person to play

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<v Speaker 1>that role. You're very psychologically, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was this necklace in in the episode. I noticed,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my personal character. Where's that necklace?

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<v Speaker 1>I put that remains? Look at that. I just got

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<v Speaker 1>an email for somebody I don't know. I get all

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<v Speaker 1>these mass emails about you know, they're collecting celebrity memorabilia

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Los Angeles this weekend. You could probably fetch a

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<v Speaker 1>nice sum for that. Anyway, I'll give you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's funny. You're right. I could go sell my beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, because that's that's what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>That my mother gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got so okay, So Laurel I follows through

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<v Speaker 1>on this ultimatum. Right, yeah, you watch the episode, right?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? What was your reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I thought it was I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was great. It was such a good cliffhanger, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody was everything's changing. It's the end of the season, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the last episode of the season. When we used

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<v Speaker 2>to make twenty two episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, remember that nine months it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>You make a living on a series. Because they were

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<v Speaker 2>making twenty two episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>You could make a good living, you know, really.

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<v Speaker 2>Good living, and or a thing called residuals.

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<v Speaker 1>Residuals, remember those Remember those mailbox money.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing when you run the mailbox.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you'd skip to the mailbox.

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<v Speaker 2>You just skipped there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good then you'd skip back because you

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<v Speaker 1>had your residual checks. I can eat, I can eat exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, now, I know, right, everything's ten episodes

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<v Speaker 1>now at low ball money. Yeah, you know, it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a job, and it's still you got your insurance, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's still you know, a good decent chunk of money.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't necessarily live on it, you know, but what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck it's it's it's better than a stick in

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<v Speaker 1>the eye, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't necessarily live on it, and you don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't even go to McDonald's on it. It's twenty

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<v Speaker 1>so that you could get your health insurance. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>making it sound because let me tell you something. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna eat very much and you're gonna need that

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<v Speaker 1>health insurance, now, are you ever? And if there ever

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<v Speaker 1>were residuals where there wouldn't be, you wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to skip to the mailbox anymore because you'd be in

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<v Speaker 1>ill health, have no energy. You're starting. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of sucks to be an actor these days,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get then take our job any minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's like we don't even discovers by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to need you to report today or

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<v Speaker 1>like forever, because don't worry about the copyright stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to buy your voice for three d and forty

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars seventeen cents. Oh god, I laugh, and soon

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<v Speaker 2>I will be crying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's over, man, We're done. Oh my god, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the last.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all right. For those young actors that are out

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<v Speaker 2>there follow yours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, it's like it's like, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is the Titanic, how much of it is still sticking

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<v Speaker 1>out of the water. Is it just the tip? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>We are resillions and we are creative being, yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we will find a way, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know what I think AI is going

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<v Speaker 1>to do though, as long as we're on that's up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be so creepily accurate and

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<v Speaker 1>saves the studios so much money. But I think it

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<v Speaker 1>will it will cause a real revival in live theater.

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<v Speaker 2>I do too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think live theater will be able to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, expand the seating, yes, because there'll be such

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<v Speaker 1>a demand for Because I think as good as AI

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<v Speaker 1>is and will be, I still think there's that creepy

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<v Speaker 1>element to it, where that's not real, it doesn't look real,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the same. I mean. But I think that'll

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<v Speaker 1>last what a generation, and then after that generation everybody

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<v Speaker 1>be ai crazy and they'll go, what the hell you

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<v Speaker 1>old people talking about? It looks really real, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care about live theater. But I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think for the next I don't know, twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe, I do think though, that human human beings

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<v Speaker 2>really do crave connection, and we are I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're pack animals, right, we want to be with other humans.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's the other thing, Like, I'm a person who

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<v Speaker 2>very much and most actors are. You know, feels like

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<v Speaker 2>when you're at a party and you walk in a

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<v Speaker 2>room and you can there's one hundred people there, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's someone way in the corner and you just feel

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<v Speaker 2>them so much that you turn your head and you connect.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at each other, you see each other, or

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<v Speaker 2>you see them or they don't see you. Those moments

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<v Speaker 2>that we all replicated movies and television shows all the

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<v Speaker 2>time really do happen. And that's because we're energetic beings.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not just our physical selves. We're not just body

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<v Speaker 2>you know, mind, flesh and bone. We have souls, we

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<v Speaker 2>have spirits, we have actual energy that we're exchanging all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. And I don't think I mean while I know,

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<v Speaker 2>AI isn't going to be able to exchange energy like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, No, not even close.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll be really interesting to see if it can make

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<v Speaker 2>people laugh and cry as deeply and resonant lee as

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<v Speaker 2>we can as actors.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's an interesting dilemma. Yeah, it has potential tragic

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<v Speaker 1>proportions for futures, but very true. Listen, you've you've been

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<v Speaker 1>steadily working.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to tell you this. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me this because I didn't know this. Thirty years

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<v Speaker 1>various television roles.

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<v Speaker 2>Films, thirty years more than years.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's what it says here. It's only thirty years. Sorry, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>we're right, You're wrong. Sorry, Okay, Yeah, No, I got

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<v Speaker 1>this from the research department. The AI department says it's

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years. So that's what it is. Thirty five years, years,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty years. I've been a professional actor. What I'm fifty six?

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<v Speaker 2>I started.

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<v Speaker 1>I was no, stop it, stop it, No, you're thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Get at you?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not. And that's another thing I really noticed

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<v Speaker 2>it at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Math said, you know, your first gig gets thirty I

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<v Speaker 1>mean at five, and then been doing thirty five thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're thirty five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it, No, I'm not so fifty years. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of amazing five decades. But that's something I really noticed

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<v Speaker 2>about the Gilmour Girls episode. Man, I was so young

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<v Speaker 2>and I was so beautiful. I was watching the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, fuck, you're gorgeous and you're so young.

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<v Speaker 2>How old were you when you did this?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>What year was that? Do you remember what year this

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<v Speaker 2>one was?

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<v Speaker 1>This is two thousand and six, this is eighteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I was very young. Eighteen years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You were eight. You were eighteen years younger than fifty six,

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<v Speaker 1>so you was thirty thirty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I really looked wow, and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like, wow, you're still easy on the eyes, and

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<v Speaker 1>you were easy on the eyes back then. What can

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<v Speaker 1>I say? What can you say? It's a Melaura Harden thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just what happens. What's your favorite role

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<v Speaker 1>that you ever did?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that's really hard, I will say. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean golden Bandages on my mind because we've I've been

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<v Speaker 2>taking it to festivals and watching it multiple times. We

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<v Speaker 2>went to all these festivals last year with it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it is one of my favorites because

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<v Speaker 2>she's such a rich character. She's so multi layered, she's

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<v Speaker 2>it's just me. So it was like super challenging and

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<v Speaker 2>fun and you know, just like more and more and more.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of those more and more more people. I

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<v Speaker 2>like more and more and more, and I like all fire,

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<v Speaker 2>all cylinders firing at all the all times. And that

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<v Speaker 2>required that because it was a small you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>micro budget. I made a dollar on that movie, you

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<v Speaker 2>know movie. But it was like just super fun to

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<v Speaker 2>to carry that journey of emotional you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a hugely, it's hilarious, it's it's dramatic, it's tragic,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, so just the the universe of emotions

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<v Speaker 2>that I had to traverse was really exciting. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago on Broadway was incredible to do because I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>singer and I'm a dancer, and to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do the three things that I love eight times a week,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, acting, singing, and dancing all at once was

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<v Speaker 2>just like I was basically in heaven again because all

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<v Speaker 2>cylinders are firing, right, Should.

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<v Speaker 1>I do that?

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<v Speaker 2>The producers do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is you don't hesitate, just say oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it'll be one of the highlights of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>When I did the Hand of Montana movie, I got

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<v Speaker 2>Billy ray Cyrus excited about it. He went and did it.

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<v Speaker 2>He played Billy Flynn.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean it's like actual singing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's a great song, you know, the song

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<v Speaker 2>Billy Oh my God. You would have a ball. You

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<v Speaker 2>should be like running to your agents and get on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone and.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they you know, they they reached out for my availability.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, well you're pretty available right now, right like

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<v Speaker 2>we all are. Nothing's happening because of the strike.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm doing I'm doing a series in Canada. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>good Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you? Where? What part of Canada?

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<v Speaker 1>Halifax?

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<v Speaker 2>Where's that?

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<v Speaker 1>It's very east. It's it's almost a europe I.

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<v Speaker 2>Did the type in Montreal. Is it east more than

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<v Speaker 2>that Easter it's.

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<v Speaker 1>The It's the most eastern place in the northern North America. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sticking way out in the Atlantic, like if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in Massachusetts, you got to make a hard right and

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<v Speaker 1>then go up the coast. You know, what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it? What series are you doing there?

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<v Speaker 1>Sullivan's crossing. It's a Canadian Yeah, yeah, Americans, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's on CW here. And you know, we haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>picked up yet for a third season, but probably will be.

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<v Speaker 2>But all right, between this season and third season, you

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<v Speaker 2>should do Chicago. Think so, yes, God, you'll have a

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<v Speaker 2>good time and then you can call me and thank

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<v Speaker 2>me for.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to Okay, So that's Golden Vanity, which is

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<v Speaker 1>this is the one woman movie. You are playing a

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<v Speaker 1>Judy Garland type character. You're singing, you're dancing, You're.

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing, but I'm saying not dancing. I do sing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And and what what what's the top three festivals you

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<v Speaker 1>took it to?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it's a lot. Well, we premiered at the

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<v Speaker 2>Burbank International Film Festival where we're an Audience Award and

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<v Speaker 2>we won the I won Best Act. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>took it to the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival where

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<v Speaker 2>I won Best Actor and we won the Audience Award.

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<v Speaker 2>And we also were in the Saint Augustine Film Festival,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were in the Women's Independent Film and Television

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<v Speaker 2>Festival were we won Best Narrative Feature. At Saint Augustine.

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<v Speaker 2>We got was that one's not a competition one, that

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<v Speaker 2>one's not a competition festival. Anywhere everywhere we went we won,

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<v Speaker 2>We won awards. I didn't even we didn't even apply

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<v Speaker 2>for the big Vibes because I just didn't. I just

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<v Speaker 2>was I was really needed to not wait around anymore

0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 2>because this was a movie that was first time filmmakers,

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 2>first time writers. It took forever to get the post

0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 2>done on this movie, to land on a cut that

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<v Speaker 2>was satisfactory, get the color correction, pay for the score,

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<v Speaker 2>the sound rights and the music rights and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>And I literally woke up January last year and said, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>do we have all the rights in place? Can I

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<v Speaker 2>take this the reins on this and just submit to festivals.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want eyes on it. Really, that was my was.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted people to see it because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>real tour to force performance by me. It's a really wonderful, amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>little quirky, fabulous, fresh movie that I just wanted people

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<v Speaker 2>to see. So now we're trying to sell it in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, it's called Golden Vanity starring Melaura Harden. Check

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<v Speaker 1>it out when it's available for downloads, or if it

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>hits your little theater or it gets on a streamer,

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>check it out. But I want to talk about Gene

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<v Speaker 1>Hackman Clint Eastwood Absolute Power, riveting scene. Tell us about

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>this if you don't know the scene and Absolute Power.

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<v Speaker 1>The Melaura plays the mistress of the President, the President

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 1>of the United States, which is portrayed by the Great,

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Gene Hackman, and Clint Eastwood is a cat burglar,

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<v Speaker 1>a high end cat burglar who was in that house

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not the president's house. It's the billionaire super

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 1>pac guy who's funding his campaign. Let it allowing Gene

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<v Speaker 1>Hackman to have his dalliance with Melaura Harden. And Clint

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<v Speaker 1>Eastwood is robbing this man's master bedroom safe which is

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<v Speaker 1>behind mirrors, and he's getting off with cash and jewels

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 1>and all kinds of things. And then Melaura Harden and

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<v Speaker 1>the President of the United States waltz into the room

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<v Speaker 1>and start kind of getting down down, and so Clint

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<v Speaker 1>can't leave, and he stays and he watches he sits

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>in that chair and he watches, and he watches you

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<v Speaker 1>get murdered right by the president of the United States

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>because he wanted it rough and he likes it rough.

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.240
<v Speaker 1>And he smacked you and you smacked him back, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it got and then it got bad, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the bad thing happened. And what a heart wrenching scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about that. I mean, God, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>get it? How'd you get it? Did you audition what

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<v Speaker 1>I did?

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<v Speaker 2>I did audition for it, and actually it was It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Phillis Huffman was the casting director who was a family

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<v Speaker 2>friend because David Huffman, her her late husband, actually was

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<v Speaker 2>a really close friend with my father. They had done

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:41.640
<v Speaker 2>a movie together and become very close friends. And Phillis

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 2>called me in for it. And actually, when I first

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<v Speaker 2>read it, it was written completely naked. The whole time.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 2>She was just nude from like start to finish, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just felt like, well, I'll go in,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know whatever, I'm not gonna I'm just not gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't going to do like such a sexual scene

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>that becomes such a violent scene completely naked. I just

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to do that. So basically, I went in,

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 2>I did my reading and I told Phyllis that I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just so you know, like I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is great. I love it. I love it. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to work with Clinticeod of course and Gene Hackman

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, but I'm not I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do this completely naked. So like I'm just letting you know.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like she's like okay, yeah, I mean, good to know,

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>you know. And so apparently, you know whatever, Clint liked

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 2>it and chose me, and she told him and and

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and he was He's like, okay, well just ask her

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>if she'd be okay if it was like a very

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 2>short skirt, and if she could be wearing like a

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>like a bra underwear that we could expose. And I

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, absolutely, that's fine. And when I.

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Went Clint's directing this movie as well, directed yeah, right

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So when I went in for my fitting, you know,

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I went in and got fitted for this

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>beautiful dress that they made for me, and you know,

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>beautiful bra and underwear a thing. And he was just great.

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>He was just like, you know, I went and met

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 2>them on that day and he was so sweet, and

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I met Jean, and Jeane was like, I'm a little

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>nervous about our scene. And I I said, don't worry, Jeans,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take care of you.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like thirty and he was like seventy two,

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm not kidding, as old as my dad, and you know,

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 4>and it was just so cute, like it made.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so cute that he was vulnerable enough to

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>tell me that he was nervous and that I was

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>playful with him. He loved and he set a place

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>for me every single day next to him at lunch,

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>and it would always be me and Clint, Me and

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<v Speaker 2>Jean and his bodyguard who was also his stand in

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 2>and friend and like trainer and everything, and we would

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>just the three of us would always eat together. He

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 2>was such a gentleman to me. Every time my skirt

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>flew up and they'd cut, you always put my skirt

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>down when they'd cut. He always gave me his hand

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 2>to help me up. He was just he couldn't have

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 2>been more of a gentleman. And Clint too, and I

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>really felt like the two of them were just you know,

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>it was funny because when I finished, I was like, well,

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 2>if I ever was going to do a completely nude

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>scene from like for it's like a ten minute long scene.

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>To do a ten minute long scene completely nude, I

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>think Clint eastwooding Jene happened to prove themselves to be

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<v Speaker 2>the ones to do that with, you know, like because

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 2>they just were so there was just never anything lascivious

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 2>or distasteful or it was just like playful and warm

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>and respectful. And it just couldn't have been a better

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>working environment.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's fantastic. What a scene.

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great scene.

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>What a great director he is.

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 2>He's such a great director, and he's so funny. I

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 2>mean when he you know, in the scene where he

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>put in during the scene he punches me and I

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>and there's a you know a shot where Clint was

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>like they were down on the ground and I fall

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 2>into the shot like you know, just a very close up.

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>And the first time I did it, I fall into

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>the shot and I and we cut and I was like,

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>oh god, like I really I went down too hard.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I hit my head and Clint was like, Laura, you

0:31:19.600 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 2>just you can just you can just act it. You

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 2>don't have to do it, really do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was.

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm buying it. You don't have to. Don't hurt your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, man, what a feather in your cap though. To

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>work with those two guys, I'm really just great for you.

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>What a scene. That's one of the most memorable movie

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>scenes because when they said Melaura Harden, I went, wait

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a minute, I know her, Wait a minute. She was

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in that scene, right, That was one of the great scenes.

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I love that vivid.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh fantastic. All right, so we're gonna play a little

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>game now called rapid fire.

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you ready?

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Not really good luck? I hate rapid fire, but I'll

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>try good luck. Okay, I'm trying to wish you luck.

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>How do you like your coffee?

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't drink coffee?

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Are you Team Logan, Team Jass, Team Dean?

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>You don't drink coffee? I get it. Who is your

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.719
<v Speaker 1>favorite Gilmore Girls couple? Luke and LAURELEI, Emily and Richard?

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Uh, Luke and larele I?

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Correct answer?

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Can I not say that when you're sitting here?

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Correct answer? You don't drink coffee? Would you rather work

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>with Michelle or Kirk?

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who? Should you tell me who?

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>You don't drink coffee, Michelle, that's always a that's a

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>safe no. No, no, Michelle, it's a safer choice.

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I don't if I like making the safe choice,

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>so I'll say I'll say.

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>You did that scene, so that's not a safe choice.

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>What would you order at Luke Steiner?

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Not coffee?

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Everything else? But you know, I have a coffee company

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and we'd like you, as our spokesperson would Who would

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you rather hang out with? Paris or Lane?

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, this is hard for me. I'm not

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>a Gilmore Girls uber fan. Really, you're gonna have to

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 2>feed me some of these answers.

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Because you'd rather hang out with Lan? Yeah?

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Why?

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Because you don't drink coffee. You need a lot of

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>coffee to deal with Paris, like copious amounts. You need

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>an IV.

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I wish my daughters were here so they could, like,

0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, shout in my ear because they both have

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>watched the Gilmour Girls from like, you know, they've seen

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 2>it all. They've seen the whole thing, and I really haven't,

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>so they'd.

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Be like, mom, that one, that one, Harvard or Yale?

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Gosh, let's see, Well probably I would say Yale. Yeah

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 2>for me?

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why well.

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Because the you know, the Yale Drama School.

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Is that's completely logical, Meryl Streep is why, I mean, right, Yeah,

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 1>would you rather attend a DAR event with Emily or

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a town meeting with Taylor?

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 2>A town meeting? Yeah no, you'd rather, okay, d the.

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:53.240
<v Speaker 1>D very very hot and sweaty in those tents.

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Andy.

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Degree all night. What you call it DAR? Daughters of

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the American Revolution, I'd rather, oh, definitely that. Yeah, you

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 1>get the Yeah, you don't have to sweat my daughter.

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>It's over in like.

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 2>An hour, The Daughter's American Revolution when they were like

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>nine and seven.

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh really, yeah, okay, that's like a real thing.

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>It's cool.

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, it's a real Gilmore girl's character you would

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>want as a roommate. You natch uh something in your life.

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 2>You are all in on something in my life.

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>That I'm in your life that you are all in

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>on being a mom, being a mom. Fantastic, Melaura Harden.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 1>You are fun and you're funny, and what a great career,

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 1>and keep on keeping on And I guess I'll maybe

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>hopefully one day work with you as an AI bot somewhere.

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, let's not do it as ais let's do

0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 2>it as real people. You want to do it as

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 2>real people, I think so it'd be more fun. I'm

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 2>much more energy that way.

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk to the producers of this show.

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna I'm gonna get you on my show.

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, I love that idea. Let's do it.

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I like I like it too, Yeah, let's.

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Do it me. I'm not working right now.

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what. I'm actually going to talk to them

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>after I get off. I'm gonna go.

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that idea.

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't mess around.

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 2>No, let's not mess around. I don't know. There's no

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:25.080
<v Speaker 2>time to mess around.

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>An I have no time, no, no time, I have

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>no time. So all the best. It was a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a pleasure to thank you.

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>And uh, just good luck with the film, really good

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.279
<v Speaker 1>luck with Golden with a Golden Vanity. Good luck with

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Golden Vanity. And I hope it. I hope it blows

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>up for you.

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, well, I don't you know what I at

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>this point, I just want people to see it. I

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.560
<v Speaker 2>just want it to sell so people can see it.

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:53.919
<v Speaker 2>Because it's a it's a quirky thing. It's not it's

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 2>not for everybody. It's it's you know, but I'm telling

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>you it's really good for people that want to sit

0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>through it. If you want, I'll send you a link,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a private link. You can watch it.

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 1>And you tell me I think, yeah, I know, I

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to see it. I definitely want to see it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, all right, all the best, Okay, bye, bye

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